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Speaker 1: Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on, y'all? It's your girl? Trica Foster Brasby,

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 3: Y'all?

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Speaker 4: Is your girl? Cheryl Swoops?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 6: And this is Levels to This, the podcast where we

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Speaker 6: talk about all the levels of the ship that.

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Speaker 2: Women go through.

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Speaker 6: And I hope y'all are ready to crack up because

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Speaker 6: today's episode is gonna be such a good time that

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Speaker 6: you're really gonna laugh the whole time.

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Speaker 2: But before we get there, how's it going, Cheryl?

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Speaker 4: I'm here? How you do? I can't stand.

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Speaker 2: You either better than you apparently? Shit, I'm a little

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Speaker 2: I'm a little jealous. What would would you do this?

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Speaker 4: No, listen, listen and don't and don't be yelling.

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Speaker 1: Don't yell. You're loud right now. Or maybe it's just

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Speaker 1: I can't take it. No, it's you, it's not me,

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Speaker 1: it's your listen listen. Let me just let let me

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Speaker 1: let the people know one thing. But I think they

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Speaker 1: already know this because we've had this discussion before.

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Speaker 4: I don't be outside like that. I don't.

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Speaker 1: And for some reason, anytime I go to Vegas, I like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I lose my mind and I go

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Speaker 1: back to like my twenties when I was.

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Speaker 4: Kicking in and all the things. Tea. I don't know

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Speaker 4: about you, but my body don't like recuperate or recover

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Speaker 4: like it used to bring into some high school friends.

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Speaker 1: So I went to the game, went to the ace's

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Speaker 1: favorite game too, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was Vegas, and I'm.

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Speaker 1: And I'm feeling it today. That's that's it. Vegas was

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Speaker 1: Vegas in Vegas. I want to say this as much

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Speaker 1: as I'm like struggling right now, I so absolutely enjoyed myself.

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Speaker 4: See, it was.

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Speaker 2: A good time. That's what.

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Speaker 6: Like, that's the reason why we can't stop doing this

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Speaker 6: shit because we wake up the next day remembering that

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Speaker 6: we're not nineteen anymore.

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Speaker 2: Recovery is not the same as it used to be.

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Speaker 6: But you have such a good time that you're just like,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna dosh it again right now, listen.

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Speaker 4: You know what, you know what. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 4: but since we're going there, I remember, like.

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Speaker 1: You changed my in my in my younger days, right,

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Speaker 1: and especially when I was playing. Did you ever have

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Speaker 1: those moments where you had your your little one on

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Speaker 1: one conversation with the man above and said, I know

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Speaker 1: I did. I would always say, yeah, if you just

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Speaker 1: let me get through with this, what time, I won't

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Speaker 1: do it again.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do it. No more.

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Speaker 2: Conversation.

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Speaker 4: The following weekend and here we go again.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm back back back, it's me again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I felt like I had this conversation Friday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well to.

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Speaker 4: Have that conversation.

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Speaker 6: Acting a damn food, acting like five, I was trying

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Speaker 6: to be grown, but see I be outside though.

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Speaker 2: Surel that's the difference.

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Speaker 6: Like, you know, my level of being grown hit a

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Speaker 6: little different than yours.

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Speaker 4: You know what, you are so right, You're so right.

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Speaker 1: I forgot who I was talking about for one for

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Speaker 1: one moment.

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Speaker 2: You forgot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hold up, I'm about to I'm about to go

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Speaker 6: to d C. I'm about to go to d C.

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Speaker 6: So I'm about to be on the same ship you own.

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Speaker 2: I know it.

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Speaker 4: I need a whole I need a whole week just

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Speaker 4: to recover. So it's it's ice water her for me.

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Speaker 1: The whole week. No, I'm crazy, I'm done.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but how was the game? I mean, because

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Speaker 2: we saw you the game wasn't that good.

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Speaker 4: See, I thought like the first the.

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Speaker 1: First half was good, but overall I was like, okay, no,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't that good. Let me let me just say

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Speaker 1: this for the people who don't know, though, since you

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Speaker 1: brought that up. Game one, Kelsey Mitchell was Kelsey Mitchell

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Speaker 1: Like I knew that, but to be sitting up close courtside,

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Speaker 4: Different level of respect for just all the things that

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Speaker 1: And I know she was a finalist for MVP, but

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Speaker 1: don't I don't think I know. I do, and you do,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think she gets enough credit. I really

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Speaker 1: really don't. And you would be pressed. You would be

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Speaker 4: To find a better guard in the league right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeap, A true a true guard, true true, a.

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Speaker 1: But the way she maneuvers and does things with her body,

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Speaker 1: different that you didn't see coming. I just I could

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Speaker 1: sit and watch her play all day long. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but Vegas. Vegas came out and did what they were

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Speaker 2: I mean I think that was the game plan.

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Speaker 6: Like, they knew that Kelsey ate them up in game

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Speaker 6: one and they wasn't gonna let them do that again.

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Speaker 6: So the game plan was to slow down. Anybody else

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Speaker 6: seek and score LEXI. Anybody can score except Kelsey Mitchell.

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Speaker 6: That was the game plan and it worked. So I mean,

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Speaker 6: you know, I can't be mad at it, but I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 6: at the end of the day, Kelsey is Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: I voted for Kelsey. I gave her my fifth place vote, and.

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Speaker 6: I'm just I've been saying, you and I have both

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Speaker 1: You know the the not surprisely, the only problem with

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Speaker 6: her and anything right now. So there are so many

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Speaker 6: deserving players, but you gotta wage your turn because Asia

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Speaker 6: is doing all the things. And I'm glad I got

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Speaker 6: They showed you, gave you some love, give you a shoutout.

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Speaker 6: But I'm gonna tell you what really, what really? What

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Speaker 6: they gave you a shoutout was looking at Brandon trying

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Speaker 6: to act like he ain't no he was on screen.

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Speaker 1: But first of all, an elbowing. I was elbowing his ass,

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Speaker 2: Trying to trying to look down, look around doing Look

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Speaker 2: that's the bro you know on scread, he's the he'd

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Speaker 4: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Stop it?

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Speaker 4: But it was good. It was good to be recognized

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Speaker 4: and loved. And you know, going to the games in

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Speaker 4: Vegas is always a vibe.

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Speaker 1: Like, it's always a vibe just you never know who's

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Speaker 4: So it's always a good time.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 6: That first year that the Aces in New York faced

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Speaker 6: The finals actually felt like And and by this, let

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Speaker 6: DeAndre Duggins and and Shana in New York because these

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Speaker 6: Like at the NBA Finals, we always see the stars

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Speaker 2: When I go to a Liberty game.

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Speaker 6: I expect to see and now other places. You go

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Speaker 6: you know, hometown players, Tyres Halliburton, they all out there.

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Speaker 6: Like it is break it, break it out. It's really

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Speaker 6: it's beautiful. It's beautiful. One place I.

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Speaker 1: Didn't get to this year before we go to the

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Speaker 4: I got to get to a Valkyrie's game.

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Speaker 6: Same yes, I one hundred percent, same same I have

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Speaker 6: There's two we have to go to get. I wish

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Speaker 6: I could have went to the game with you on Tuesday,

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Speaker 6: but I ended up having to work, so it was

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Speaker 6: what it was. But there are It's crazy that there

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Speaker 6: are literally two teams that I've never seen play in

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Speaker 6: But all these years I've been come'ring the w I

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Speaker 6: have never been to an LA Sparks game at home. Really,

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Speaker 6: I've been to the Staples Center a million times, but

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Speaker 6: that's one that you absolutely would have seen in person.

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Speaker 6: Never seen a Sparks game play at home, never seen

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Speaker 6: a Sparks play at home. Crazy like crazy, It's like

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Speaker 6: that's the one, that's the one one team. And now

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Speaker 6: I got to add Portland and Toronto to that list,

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Speaker 6: oh all the places along with Golden said yeah, but

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Speaker 2: He wants you, I won't.

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Speaker 1: We're joking right now because I want to be like, listen,

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying. Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: The journalist in me will not accept anybody else's sources.

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Speaker 6: I need to be able to speak to Jesus directly.

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Speaker 2: Please tell me you.

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Speaker 2: Let's take this thing to the next level. All right.

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Speaker 6: I think I told you, guys, like two weeks ago

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Speaker 2: Like being my friend on Twitter was like we were

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Speaker 2: But and we friends around now, so here we are.

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Speaker 6: But without further do please everybody give a warm welcome

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Speaker 6: to Kevin Frederick's a k A keV on stage.

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Speaker 2: A k A keV. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: You something else before? I hate keep doing but you

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Speaker 4: know we didn't make it. Do what it do?

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Speaker 3: What up?

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Speaker 4: keV?

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Speaker 5: Thank you? I appreciate you. Hey, how are you guys?

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: No, we are excited to have you. Go ahead, sir tee.

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Speaker 4: I'm there with you like he don't know it, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: So this is so funny. I have to say this upfront.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Cheryl my brother, you know he told me he

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Speaker 5: He said, I dance with Cheryl Soup at the club.

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Speaker 4: Sure did not. I am not am not in nobody's club.

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Speaker 4: The feet her keV.

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Speaker 6: I got to see her each and every single time. Brother,

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Speaker 6: We just kept sting. We just kept sending wings. That

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Speaker 1: We like, this is this is so not a Cheryl

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Speaker 4: It's not this is this isn't keV.

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Speaker 5: We had to get that.

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Speaker 3: He said it was a great time. He talked about

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Speaker 5: I said, brother, you're lying, man, But he maintained that

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Speaker 3: I will tell you, and this is the absolute truth.

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Speaker 5: She just reminds me of my nieces. She reminds me

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Speaker 5: You can't guard me, you can't see me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, And I just I felt like then I

444
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: had to defend Angel as a black person. I was like, oh,

445
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 3: you're not Finna just talk crazy because this is my

446
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 3: girl right right. And I was very curious because I've

447
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 3: been a fan of the NBA, and I was like,

448
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 3: I remember the NBA was struggling.

449
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 5: Then you had Burden Magic.

450
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 3: They kind of their rivalry, that white dude from Indiana

451
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 3: and the flashy dude from miss and they had the

452
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: national championship. Then they went to the NBA and the

453
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: NBA was like immediately was like, oh, we're gonna market this,

454
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, I can see how that.

455
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 3: I remember wanting to see how both of them translated

456
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: into the w n B A And around that time,

457
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: around the pandemic, I decided I wanted to be more

458
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 3: intentional about supporting black women. So when w when that happened,

459
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: I said, let me let me go out of my

460
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: way to watch the games. I'm gonna go to games.

461
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get lead passed. I found out ION as

462
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: a channel. Did not know that before the WBA on

463
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 3: them games be on that Ion.

464
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 5: I don't know. I've never heard of ION before.

465
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 3: I got YouTube TV and I started watching and then

466
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 3: what happened, and I'm so glad I did this. Me

467
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: and my family went to an Aces game early in

468
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: this thing, and I remember watching and I'm like, yo,

469
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: this is much more physical and fast than I realized

470
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: that they They don't they wasn't calling no fouls like that,

471
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: And I said, these rest is this, this is a

472
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,479
Speaker 3: this is like this is like concrete basketball, like you

473
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: almost call your own faults. It was crazy, and then

474
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: people were like, knock here. The w is way more

475
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: physical than the NBA, like this this is on par

476
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: So I think going to a game made me like

477
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 3: fall in love with it more. And in my experience,

478
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 3: WNBA games are often very competitive regular season games too.

479
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 3: They're really competitive, more than most sports like the NBA.

480
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: I love this is not to like put down the NBA,

481
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 3: but they're not. They're games in early October, November, before

482
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: the Commissioners Cup, ain't really playing really for real till

483
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: after the All Star break. Then they really knock in.

484
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: And then the playoffs it's like, okay, playoff basketball. And

485
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of common knowledge the WNBA. Their

486
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: season is shorter, their smaller teams, so the great players

487
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: are more they're everybody got two or three people right,

488
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: So the games were really competitive, and I just love basketball.

489
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 5: I remember thinking the summer, I'm.

490
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: Watching like I'm watching softball, I'm watching Little League World Series,

491
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: I'm watching the hot dog competitions. Like the WNBA was

492
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: in the perfect time in the summer, but it was

493
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: never just like I'm on the road a lot, so

494
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: you know, it's not on the TVs and stuff, and

495
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of when I left Washington and

496
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 3: before Angel in Kaitlin, it just wasn't on. So then

497
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: I had to go out of my way. And then

498
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: like Angel and Caitlin, you know, their rivalry renewed a

499
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: lot of interest, brought a lot of new people to it.

500
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: And then the games are now on ESPN more than

501
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 3: I remember, Like I remember playoff games in the championships,

502
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: they were available, so I would like tune in, And

503
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 3: now I'm legit watching w NBA all the time. I

504
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 3: just watched last night the Aces played the Storm, and

505
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: I'm kind of conflicted because Asia, I love her, but

506
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: I was a Storm fan, so I'm like, but I

507
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 3: realized I was rooting for Asia.

508
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna ho.

509
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: But like Skyler Diggins hit a shot, she talking trash.

510
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 5: Milanda is a great rookie, Like you can see Asia

511
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 5: is better.

512
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: Than her, but you see the like I see the

513
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: potential and like Yill, she gets good.

514
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: And that's what I was saying.

515
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 3: I was like, it reminds me of like in boxing,

516
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: like Floyd fighting an early Canelo, Like you know, the

517
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: person who's better and more experienced.

518
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: But you see, like, oh.

519
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 3: If she keep going on this thing, she gonna be

520
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 3: She's gonna be tough to deal with, you know. And

521
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: it's it's and I think what the w NBA has

522
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: because I think the women's college game, they stay in college.

523
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: They have a lot of narratives and rivalries that you

524
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: can follow into the league, and the mess games kind

525
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: of has lost that a little bit because there's so

526
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: many different options before you get to the NBA. So

527
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: there's a lot of oh man, they you know Yukon

528
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: and Page was her and now Juju's hert she gonna

529
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: come back and like you know, you would you kind

530
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 3: of want if Page didn't get hurt, you know, And

531
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: I want to watch Page. So it's I am all

532
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: in now it is. I'm so happy it's popular. I

533
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: want to do my part I went and it went

534
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 3: to I think like four or five games this year.

535
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 5: And the playoffs are lost. Best of three is tough.

536
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 5: Best three and last year they didn't even you didn't

537
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: even get guarantee the home game.

538
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: It's like you really gotta want it, like you gotta

539
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: beat us once that are on Florida even get a

540
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 3: chance to go back to Like that's.

541
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: Some tough that's listen.

542
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 6: That's the reason why yesterday I was like, uh, Indiana

543
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 6: better win this game as much as they can plain

544
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 6: about not.

545
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: Win and shame on Atlanta, Like huh yeah, but.

546
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: That Like I think if if the Aces and Storm

547
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 3: played in Las Vegas, Aces win that game, I think

548
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 3: they you play harder. You know, they mean some free

549
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 3: throws and stuff, but down the stress, you play hard

550
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: in front of your fans, like that matters. So I

551
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 3: am so happy that it's more available and becoming more available.

552
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm watching unrivaled now. I think the one on one

553
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: thing is I watched a rival I said, I don't

554
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: know how nobody never thought of this, Like it's it's

555
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: such a smart thing, one on one like NBA player,

556
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: I've never seen this. I've always wanted to see that

557
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: and you really got to go out there one on

558
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: one is as close to boxing as you get. Like,

559
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: you can't blame the rest, you can't blame it the coach.

560
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: It's me against you.

561
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 5: What's up? Check up? So yeah, man, I mean he not.

562
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 2: Wrong the way they was trying to get that bread.

563
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 5: Like, hey they were playing.

564
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm going to put you on the spot

565
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: right now since we're talking about the W and the

566
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: playoffs and all that.

567
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: So who you got winning it all?

568
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 5: Okay? I have actually put a lot of thought to this,

569
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 5: Oh do tell.

570
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: Beginning of the season, I was like, kind of like

571
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: last season, Liberty looked like a well oiled machine.

572
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: It was theirs to lose.

573
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: Minnesota looked like that for the majority of the season

574
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: until and then when Nafisa went out they really didn't

575
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: really lose. And when she came back, it was like

576
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: back on the aces. Remind me of those Giants teams,

577
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: where like they might not have played well early in

578
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: the season, but they.

579
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: Started clicking at the right time.

580
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: I think putting Jewel coming off the bench, they it

581
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: like snapped them into focus. Her shots started falling like

582
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: it wasn't like it was not clicking. Early in the season,

583
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: there is something to say about clicking at the right moment,

584
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: and a seventeen eighteen game when she going into the playoffs,

585
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard to beat them four times. I

586
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be hard to beat them four times.

587
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: So I would say, if I had to put money up,

588
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: I'd say the Aces are the ones to beat right now,

589
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: just because they're playing probably the most unified basketball and

590
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: it's kind of like, you gotta beat them, like you

591
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, you gotta beat them. For a minute,

592
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: They're the dream where my little dark horse. I went

593
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: to a couple of dream games. They had all the

594
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: right pieces, but like Asia, to me, she just.

595
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 5: Stands above everyone, and it's like they may lose. She

596
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 5: is different.

597
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: She is and when she's on you was just like, okay,

598
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: well she getting twenty five.

599
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 5: Okay, now what else can we do?

600
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 6: This's like that remind me that they kind of remind me.

601
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 6: At twenty twenty one Chicago's Sky team. You know, that

602
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 6: team was struggling and they in this regular season like

603
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 6: five hundred. Next thing, you know, Candice Parker and Colia

604
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 6: Copper put the team on their back and they won

605
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 6: the shit. So I was like, okay, like I can

606
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 6: see Vegas doing that.

607
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 5: I can see I didn't.

608
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: Watch that season, but I believe trust me, I was

609
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: curious about that because I remember them watching. I remember

610
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: them that season always gets highlighted talking about the Sky

611
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: for different reasons.

612
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 6: That's because that's the last time that Chicago could be

613
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 6: spoken about in a positive place.

614
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what I'm so.

615
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: It's so interesting to follow a sport that's been active

616
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: for almost thirty years and like find out all this stuff.

617
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: People like cav they the Sky will let their best

618
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: players go. And then we see what happened with Angel

619
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: this season. It's like that doesn't usually happen with players

620
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: like that and others sports you don't. You don't really

621
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: see gms talk about current players like you see coaches

622
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: say that. Yeah, the coach is like, we need more

623
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: out of you, But you don't see gms speak like that.

624
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: So that that's a situation now.

625
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 6: That is, unless we're talking about the Dallas Cowboys.

626
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: Fast accept them, Fast accept them.

627
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 5: Except now Jerry, don't say his stuff.

628
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: Jerry, I want to add on to something you just

629
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: said about that, and I really want to get your

630
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: opinion or thoughts on it. So personally, I didn't really

631
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: have an issue with what Angel said, right, And a

632
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: lot of people were like, yeah, but she's got to

633
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: find a different way to say that.

634
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: Why because in the NBA.

635
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: No, Because in the NBA they talk about each other

636
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: all the time.

637
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 4: They talk about, look, coach, got to give me some help.

638
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: We need better players, we need people that go win.

639
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: And when they said in the NBA, everybody's like about

640
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: time somebody said it.

641
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: So then you get Angels.

642
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: Saying the exact same thing, and all of a sudden,

643
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: it's like, how dare you say that?

644
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: Why do you think?

645
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 5: Why?

646
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: Why do you think that?

647
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: Is that on the NBA?

648
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: It's on our side not so much.

649
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 5: I don't think we know how to talk about the

650
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 5: w n b A the same way we talk about

651
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 5: the NBA or women in sports the same way we

652
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 5: talk about men in sports.

653
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: Don't know what they're talk about, I shouldn't talk about it.

654
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: Then, Well, that ain't never stopped nobody on the internet.

655
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: In the barbershop, people never have no dog on an opinion.

656
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: We just in fact, breath in my body. I'm gonna

657
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: say something I think hearing it absolutely your franchise player,

658
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: which no hardly anybody would argue Angel is the Sky's

659
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: franchise player. You hear the Star franchise player talk like

660
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: that all the time. I'll even throw myself in there.

661
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: I realized I'm not at the place yet where I

662
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: criticize women the way I would men. I'd be like,

663
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, keV you know you know you knew.

664
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: And that's mostly because I feel like I'm new to

665
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: the WNBA.

666
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: I feel like I haven't earned my stripes enough.

667
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: To be able to talk about like, yeah, I feel like.

668
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 3: I can say I can say, oh, if the Aces

669
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: hit their free throws, they might win this game. But

670
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: I'm not like Asia should do this, And I don't

671
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: really do like I might say Kaitlin, she hasn't been

672
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: playing as well as she did last year, but I don't.

673
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: I don't really be like man NBA, be like boy

674
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: this you know, Luk a trash game six. He didn't

675
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: show up at all. He non for said like, I

676
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: don't talk with the same thing. So I think as

677
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: I become more entrenched and more familiar with everything in

678
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: the history and all that stuff, I would feel more comfortable.

679
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: But I feel like we we as a society, we aren't.

680
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: We don't do that yet because it is she said

681
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: something that I have heard a million times in all

682
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: different types of sports from the franchise player. I need

683
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: help this person might not being and I can see

684
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: how the players might have taken offense to it. But

685
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: I think sometimes, you know, maybe having them players all meetings,

686
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: you need your best player to you just say that,

687
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 3: and she hold herself to that same standard as well,

688
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: so I think with time, I think we will get

689
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: there with a w Well.

690
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 6: I can also add to that that after she said

691
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 6: that the very next day they played Connecticut because I

692
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 6: was covering that game and they blew their head off

693
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 6: and I was like.

694
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: Dam maybe Angel should have said that ship five years

695
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 2: ago because.

696
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 6: That is all they needed to step up and come

697
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 6: out here and play. But to that point, I think

698
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 6: it also adds to the fact that when we do

699
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 6: talk about women in that way, like as regular athletes,

700
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 6: then we got to be hating. Like while we gotta

701
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 6: be hated, you know what I mean, Like you can't

702
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 6: just like when you get those who do just criticize

703
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 6: and rightfully so. And even those like Chryl like Candice,

704
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 6: like others who have the criteria in the resume and

705
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 6: the like, who's gonna tell Sheryl she can't talk about

706
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 6: the w.

707
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but people people do that all the person who signed.

708
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 4: But people say that all the time. Oh she's just hayten,

709
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: But oh that.

710
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 5: What?

711
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: So I mean if they don't get either, I want

712
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: to tell you one thing before we get into other stuff.

713
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: So because I want both of your thoughts on this,

714
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: and Tea, I know you saw it. So Angel maccawtree

715
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: did an interview, right, and did you see this, keV? Yeah,

716
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: I saw it, Okay, So for the people who didn't,

717
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it out there because I want, I want,

718
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: I have my thoughts and I want y'all thoughts. So

719
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: you know she's saying, I get it what Angel said,

720
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: but you know, you gotta.

721
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what her words were.

722
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: But at the end she basically said, you know, if

723
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: I were her, what I would do is go to

724
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: one of my many sponsors and say give me an

725
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: extra hundred thousand dollars so I can give each one

726
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: of my teammates ten.

727
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 5: Is that?

728
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: Am I right? That's pretty much how I was so

729
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: before I get your thoughts. Do the men do that?

730
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: That's first, But second, I also don't know if it's

731
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: maybe things are different today. I also don't know if

732
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: it's that easy to go to one of your sponsors

733
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: and say, I appreciate what you're giving me, but I

734
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: need an extra hundred thousand for my teammates.

735
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you sis.

736
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 6: I was laughing at the fact that she said this

737
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 6: is what I would do, because ty.

738
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: Young came on the thread and was like, no, you wouldn't. Angel.

739
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: I lost it.

740
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 4: I missed lost it.

741
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 6: I loss that one because I said, why are you

742
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 6: sitting up her line?

743
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: You would not listen.

744
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't do it.

745
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 4: Oh man.

746
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: But if you want to talk about players getting more money,

747
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: go to the league, go to the team, and today

748
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: we need more money. That's not that's not a player's responsibility.

749
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 6: No, no, no, nobody's doing that. And this is not

750
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 6: the NFL where you know, you sign your big deal,

751
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 6: you buying all your teammates rolexes or were taking them

752
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 6: out the lunk. I mean, they're signing multi million dollar

753
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 6: contracts that can take the world.

754
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: But Angel, Angel has done stuff like that for her teammates.

755
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: She's gifted them beats, she's bought them bags like, She's

756
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: done things like that.

757
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 2: That's great. Like honestly, like with you, I'm with you,

758
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to keep.

759
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 5: Listen.

760
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 3: I think I'm trying to keep off my court.

761
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 5: I think in spirit.

762
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: I'll just say this as a person who's working brands,

763
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: it doesn't necessarily work like that, because what the brands

764
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: are trying to do is their money. They're paying for reach.

765
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: I pay you to reach more people. And Angel because

766
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: of her. First of all, let me just say this,

767
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: because I ain't had a chance to defend Angel in

768
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: a while. Angel earned this by her play on the

769
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: basketball court. Yeah right, Angel from LSU. When you watch

770
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: Angel Reese play, she is a difference maker on the

771
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: court rebounds. I remember when the first season I said

772
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: the stretches people were going through to diminish her, trying

773
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: to make it seem like rebounds are not a big

774
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: part of basketball. It's every rebound is a possession. A

775
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: defensive rebound is a possession, every offensive rebound is a

776
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: new possession. So she got to the point where the

777
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: brands are even paying her one she put that ring

778
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: on her finger, Two she plays well, and three when

779
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: she got to the WNBA, she was breaking records. Right,

780
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: the brands are trying to attach to her star power,

781
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: and yes, with her power, she might be able to

782
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: give that money away. But to Cheryl's point, that's not

783
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: usually how that works. That's not how brands work, that's

784
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: not really how contracts work, and it's definitely not how

785
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 3: men are.

786
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 5: Expected to do it.

787
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: And Kawhi Leonard is accused of doing that, No shodd say, Kawhi,

788
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: why you ain't give none of that money to the

789
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: rest of the pills. I've never heard that type of

790
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: story in my history of basketball watching. Yeah, I sign

791
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars, I buy some Rolexes, I might

792
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: pay for dinner, but give everybody one hundred grand? Is

793
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: I mean our ten grand? That just hasn't in my experience.

794
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that happening before. And I don't know

795
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: if Angel would be the first person to be responsible

796
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 3: for doing that.

797
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: He ain't nobody doing that. Dana out here losing it.

798
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 6: I will say this though, and I don't get a

799
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 6: chance to talk about this often, but before we switch gears,

800
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 6: I will say this one last thing. Back in twenty

801
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 6: twenty three, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three, I was

802
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 6: covering the NCAA Finals and that was the finals where

803
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 6: it was LSU, Iowa, South Carolina, and I forgot who

804
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 6: else was in C State.

805
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: I think it was INNC State or Maryland, one of

806
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: them two.

807
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 6: But long story short, I have to go to every

808
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 6: locker room, and so I get to the Iowa locker

809
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 6: room and I asked about this whole thing, and everybody

810
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 6: in there told me. And I was working for ESPN

811
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 6: at the time, and everybody in here told me the

812
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 6: story about where this came from, and that it was

813
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 6: Louisville that was the other team, and they all said,

814
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 6: Caitlin never did this to a person. It was an

815
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 6: inside joke between her and somebody and one of their coaches,

816
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 6: assistant coaches, so whenever she.

817
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: Was doing it, she was doing it to a coach.

818
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 6: And so then I asked Hailey van Lynz, who was

819
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 6: on the other side at the time at Louisville, and

820
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 6: she was like, Nah, she ain't never did this to

821
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 6: me because we know Haley Lit So if she had

822
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 6: never did this to Haley, Haley for show would clocked

823
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 6: her tee like no, ma'am.

824
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: So I understood in slight why it.

825
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 6: Was like, dang, I wasn't doing this to players, right,

826
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 6: And I even tried to defend Caitlyn a little bit, like, no,

827
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 6: she wasn't doing it to players. But at the end

828
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 6: of the day, I don't care if he was doing

829
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 6: it to a player or not. Angel Steele can be

830
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 6: like you can't see me now put my on it,

831
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 6: Like I didn't care whether she was doing it to

832
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 6: a player or not. Like, don't don't make it seem

833
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 6: like Kaitlyn was doing this to other people because she wasn't.

834
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 6: But at the same time, we don't care if she

835
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 6: wasn't doing it because.

836
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: Angel still could do it, Like it's.

837
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 6: What we do in sports. I have done and said

838
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 6: much worse on a basketball court.

839
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: I don't even know that I love it.

840
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 5: I never knew. I remember that she waved raven off.

841
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: She definitely waved raven Off, Yes.

842
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 5: I remember and doing player.

843
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: Doing this shoot it?

844
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 5: Yes, Like just what't that in basketball?

845
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: Like all the time?

846
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: That's hard of a mental game, like doing that to

847
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: somebody is designed to mess with your confidence.

848
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 5: It's like we ain't got no shot like.

849
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: That's I hadn't been seen it done in a game

850
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: at a college level, but on the pickup.

851
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 5: Court you've seen you've seen.

852
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: That all shot shoot like because now you either got

853
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: to shoot it or pass it.

854
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 5: And now I'm in your head.

855
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 1: When you do that, when you wave him off right

856
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, I ain't got no shot.

857
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: You know he's gonna shoot.

858
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 5: It for sure. It's like a gut check thing, right.

859
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

860
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: But I think Lebron does this when somebody dunks on him.

861
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: Other players are doing his stuff, they're doing his celebration.

862
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: You see people do that thing. Thing is if I

863
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: got the better of you, I'm gonna Jordan did it

864
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: to the Ken Babe.

865
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 5: He did this to the kimb like.

866
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 3: So to me, that's not unusual in sports. I think

867
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: it really got blown way out of proportion.

868
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 5: Listen, let's be honest.

869
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: A lot of the media and people in America, and

870
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: I don't blame Kaitlin for this.

871
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 5: People used her to get.

872
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 3: How they felt stuff, and it made her their thing

873
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: to defend.

874
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: We got to finished. She never even said that. She

875
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 5: just walked off.

876
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. She became the like

877
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: we have to protect her. She she never seemed to

878
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: need anybody to protect her. She looked like a big

879
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: girl on the car with everybody else.

880
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: Protection, and she be running her mouth on a silent

881
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: everybody else. Taylor talked ship with the best with the best.

882
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: Fine.

883
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: That's when she and she goes to the crowd. Absolutely,

884
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: I see Dwayne Wade do it. You see Tom Brady

885
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: get think. I just wish it were equal.

886
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 5: It's just not. And that's not even outside of the

887
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: w Tom Brady gets mad.

888
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: He throws a pick, he throws the Microsoft power point.

889
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: He's passionate as Brian does it. It's like he's angry.

890
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: It's like, just cover things equally. That's in America. That

891
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen. So it's not unusual

892
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: to not happen for women because it doesn't happen.

893
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 5: It's like even how we talk about.

894
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: Athletes, it's like you you only say white receivers are

895
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: sneaky athletic.

896
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 5: That's not a term you even use for black receivers.

897
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means.

898
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 5: It means you're white and fast.

899
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 7: Just say you're asking what is sneaky I'm gon run

900
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 7: around when you're not paying it, like what do you man?

901
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: Good?

902
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 4: What sneaky?

903
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: And it's like my quarterbacks. You you only compare them

904
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: to their race of quarterback. It's it's ridiculous, but America

905
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: is a ridiculous place, so it makes.

906
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: It makes it's a ridiculous place. And sports is only

907
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: a microcosm of the real world.

908
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 5: And we see thousand per sit.

909
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: All the time.

910
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 5: It is a reason.

911
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 3: It is another way to it's it's a it's reflect

912
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: Wrestling is reflective of America sports room.

913
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 5: It's not unusual that it's and it's always been like that.

914
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 6: Listen, don't you start talking about wrestling, because I just

915
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 6: came back from Monday Night Raw and I'm in my

916
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 6: feelings right now. But this is gonna be a whole

917
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 6: different conversation. We ain't even got time to go in

918
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 6: w w WE. We ain't even got time because because

919
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 6: I sent you at WrestleMania, and.

920
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm doing all the things to Rika,

921
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: I'm doing all look sure can.

922
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 6: Tell you I was in my feelings because I was

923
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 6: supposed to be at WrestleMania. My husband played with me

924
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 6: on the dog on Hotel because you know how we be.

925
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 6: We can't stand to just pay upfront for nothing. We

926
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 6: always got to have a hookup for something at play with.

927
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: Me on the hookup for the hotel.

928
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 6: So now I'm at home watch a WrestleMania mad than

929
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 6: a mug when I really should have been in Vegas

930
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 6: singing on the side like everybody else.

931
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: But it's cool. I ain't even gonna truck.

932
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 6: I everybody video, everybody posting a videos posting it. I

933
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 6: was hating so hard but secretly liking every last one

934
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 6: of them. That person that like your stuff, but you

935
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 6: know you, they mad at you. That was me on

936
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 6: everybody's WrestleMania video.

937
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: That was me.

938
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 5: I'm hilarious.

939
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: Mad.

940
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 6: All right, let's switch gears really quick because we don't

941
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 6: have a ton of time. But we got to get

942
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 6: into all of the projects and the things that you've

943
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 6: been doing. Gotta start with Churchy because that show be

944
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 6: having me? Did church you be having me dead? When

945
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 6: you it's it's it's oh so growing up a p K.

946
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 6: It's so many things that I just am like I

947
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 6: live this, like I live this, And it's interesting to

948
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 6: see how there is such a an interchange between like

949
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 6: faith in comedy, which is something that I don't think

950
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 6: for a long time people thought could exist. So just like,

951
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 6: how do you kind of keep the show funny but

952
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 6: still like honoring and really, you know, trying to keep

953
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 6: that faith experience that you know so many of us

954
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 6: grew up with.

955
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a great question. First, I'm a

956
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: real church kid. I'm one of those ones whose whole

957
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: life we was going to church five days week, not exaggerating,

958
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: we was in there every other day, back to back, Friday, Saturday,

959
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: Sunday for either rehearsal, church one or the other. So

960
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: you can't spend that much time in a place and

961
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 3: not find the humor in it because you're going to

962
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 3: be there anyway. And I think for me it started

963
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: early making fun of what happened in church at home,

964
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: in front of my grandma and my mom and my

965
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 3: uncles in them. So I learned then what is funny,

966
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: what is sacred, what you can say, what you can't say.

967
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: And I think growing up on TV, it just never

968
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: felt like the churches on TV were really reflective of

969
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: how church actually was. You know, It's like they used

970
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 3: in a pipe organ on TV and black churches pipe

971
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 3: organ is for Catholic churches. That's not maybe other churches,

972
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: I don't know who, but I know the Black Church

973
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 3: doesn't use no pipe organ So for me, I wanted

974
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: to make it as authentic as my experience had been.

975
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 5: And that's how I think.

976
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: I can make people laugh but without ever being disrespectful.

977
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: And I can make fun of pretty much everything in church.

978
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: But I know now, you don't play with that pool bit.

979
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: I remember one of the jokes and pitched for this

980
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: season was like, one of the guys should get some

981
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: communion crackers and shaking his hand like some of our

982
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: season eat him. I was like, hey, amen, were not

983
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 3: playing with no communion. That's the body of Christ. Y'all

984
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: we're doing that, we're not doing And they didn't know.

985
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: They didn't go to church, so they just thought would

986
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 3: be funny. Like, yeah, that would not be funny, respectful

987
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 3: and it would not go over well and I would

988
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: not have no part of nothing like that. So I

989
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: think people trust that everything I say and do is

990
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: from a place of love. And you can make fun

991
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 3: of something you love, you can point out the flaws

992
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: and something you love, but there's a certain level of

993
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: reverence that I still have for the church, and I

994
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: think that's why the show works.

995
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, keV you, I wanted to ask you because people

996
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: ask me all the time, like why basketball? What made

997
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: you get into basketball? I know your bio and your

998
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: bio says you grew up a military kid, and is

999
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: that how.

1000
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 4: You got into comedy and like what was that?

1001
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 5: Like?

1002
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it definitely played a part. I kind

1003
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 3: of was always funny, so it's always making my family laugh.

1004
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 3: But being a military kid, you have to move around

1005
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: a lot. And what is hard is when you move

1006
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: from a military base to a military base, but you

1007
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: don't go to a military school. You got to be

1008
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: extra to make friends because these kids have usually grown

1009
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: up together. When you go to military school, there's always

1010
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: a lot of people who are new kind of easier

1011
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: to make friends. But sometimes we didn't live on base,

1012
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: so I definitely had to amp up my personality to

1013
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: try to meet new people and make friends. We end

1014
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: up it was quite often that we moved to a

1015
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: new city but not go to the school on base,

1016
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: So I was like, hey.

1017
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 5: Man, what's up way, how y'all doing? Man?

1018
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: And I actually basketball helped that as well, because if

1019
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 3: people are playing pickup. You don't have to know them.

1020
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: You go and call next and people be like, all right,

1021
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: you got next. Like there's certain rules that everybody knows.

1022
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: Everybody knows how twenty one goes for whatever reason. I

1023
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 3: don't know how everybody in America knows twenty one or version.

1024
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody kind of has a working knowledge. So

1025
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: I think basketball is a lot like that in that way,

1026
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: it's an easy way to make friends. You know, if

1027
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: you can play, you can play. If you call next

1028
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: and nobody's waiting, then you got next. Like and I

1029
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: think so it's the combination of basketball and comedy definitely

1030
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: helped me make friends, and it definitely helped develop my

1031
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: personality and a big reason I am the way I

1032
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: am now.

1033
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: I want to follow up real quick to was there

1034
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: ever a point where your parents were like, boy, you

1035
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: ain't funny comedy, ain't it figured something else out?

1036
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 5: Never?

1037
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 3: In my life my parents they have always been really

1038
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: supportive of my comedic aspirations.

1039
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 5: I've always been able to make people laugh.

1040
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: They kind of always came to my shows so funny,

1041
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: Melissa's that Melissa my wife's herd father he had every

1042
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: show we'd ever done in Washington in his garage, every

1043
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: comedy show, every play, everything I've ever done. One of

1044
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 3: my deacons was the same way. So I think I've

1045
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: always had a lot of support from everybody who was

1046
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: close to me. So no, they now, they might not

1047
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: have thought I should go play basketball. That probably ain't

1048
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 3: God's playing for your life for the long haul. But

1049
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: that ain't it for you, brother, you know, But them

1050
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: jokes and stuff, you can you can, you can?

1051
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 5: You could play that down the road and see where

1052
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 5: that lead you. For sure.

1053
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: I love that.

1054
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 6: I definitely remember when you came up here to heart

1055
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 6: Ford about a year or two ago to Funny Bones

1056
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 6: and me and my sores, we definitely went to Funny

1057
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 6: Bone and it was hilarious. But you're about to go

1058
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 6: on tour with Tony the Ball Brothers and that's gonna

1059
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 6: kick off on the twenty seventh of September, and y'all,

1060
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 6: I can't imagine like what this tour is about to

1061
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 6: be because Tony Tony Baker be having me dead.

1062
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: I'll be rolling.

1063
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 6: And so just from you know, the podcast that you

1064
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 6: guys have and the clips that you guys post, what

1065
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 6: can fans expect on this tour that the that you

1066
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 6: too are about to have.

1067
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: Listen, Tony Baker is one of the funniest people on earth.

1068
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: Going on tour with him is a blessing and a treat.

1069
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: I can set Tony Baker up to make you laugh.

1070
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 3: We and together, we are very funny together. But you

1071
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: you're getting two comedians who love making people laugh, love

1072
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: making each other laugh. We're both It's a completely freestyled

1073
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 3: comedy set. So you can come and see us every

1074
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 3: tour stop and you're gonna get six teen different shows.

1075
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 5: But it's like being able to play with a great player.

1076
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: Like one of my greatest skills I think is I

1077
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: know I'm good at comedy, but I don't think I'm

1078
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 3: the best, nor do I have to be. And it's

1079
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: like Lebron is my favorite player in the NBA. It's

1080
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 3: like I might be a good player in the NBA.

1081
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 3: It might even be an All Star some years, but

1082
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: I know I ain't know Lebron. Tony Baker he Lebron,

1083
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: so I would. I just love to be if I'm

1084
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: on your team, I get to benefit from your greatness.

1085
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'll rebound it and kick it out to you.

1086
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 2: Brother.

1087
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: You can go for thirty ten and nine. As long

1088
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 3: as we win, I'm happy, And I think that's what

1089
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: it's like now. I might I'm gonna do a few things.

1090
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do what I gotta do, but it can

1091
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: be his show as long. And this comes back from

1092
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: I used to do plays. I don't have to be

1093
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 3: the star of every aspect. I just want to make

1094
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: sure the show is good. And if the show is good,

1095
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 3: the audience has a good time. I might come back

1096
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: by myself and they'll be like, man, when Kevin Tony came,

1097
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: it was funny, So I'm gonna go see him by himself,

1098
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: or his movie might be funny, or his TV show

1099
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 3: might be funny. So I just wanted to deliver on

1100
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 3: the funny anytime you see me. I wanted to deliver

1101
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 3: on the funny so that the next time you have

1102
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 3: a chance to come see me, you be like, Okay,

1103
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 3: I gotta go, you know, because I ain't really probably

1104
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: gonna come back to Hartford that much. So I want

1105
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 3: you to be to be like, how closest Kem's gonna

1106
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: get to me?

1107
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 7: The weekend, I'm gonna be in Boston.

1108
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: There with youbody, anybody, anybody going to hard, nobody, nobody defense.

1109
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 3: They pulled up and they sold out and they had

1110
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: great energy. It took a lot of work to get

1111
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: them tickets sold. They were like, we just ain't gona

1112
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: buy the tickets.

1113
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: Sure, I'm talking about being in the club. You do,

1114
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 4: you do? So I have.

1115
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 2: I saw this.

1116
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: Clip and I cannot remember who the comedian was, but

1117
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: I I feel like laughter it soothes the all right,

1118
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: and especially in the climate we're living in today, like.

1119
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 4: We need more laughter.

1120
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: So I saw this clip this comedian, I can't remember

1121
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: who it was, but.

1122
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: He was doing what y'all do.

1123
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: He was making jokes and there was a lady in

1124
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: the audience who got very offended, like it was a

1125
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: political joke.

1126
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: I won't even get into what it was.

1127
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: I bring that up because I want to ask you, like,

1128
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: as a as a comedian, that is your job to

1129
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: tell jokes, to make us laugh.

1130
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 4: That's what we paid to come and see.

1131
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: Given the environment that we're living in today, are you

1132
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: are you conscious of like who's in the audience and

1133
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: what jokes you make? Or are you just you and

1134
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: regardless you're just going.

1135
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: To be you?

1136
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 5: You know what. That's a great question I think for me.

1137
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 5: I'm just me.

1138
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: I think when you come to a comedy show, there's

1139
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: certain rules you accept. They gonna make jokes. They might

1140
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 3: make a joke that I don't agree with. They might

1141
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: make a joke that I find offensive, But overall I

1142
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 3: have they are trying to make me laugh. And I

1143
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: think as long as the audience comes with that point

1144
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: of view, and we believe it or not, most comedians

1145
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 3: want to make you laugh. We don't want to make

1146
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 3: you mad. We don't want to make you get up

1147
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 3: and walk out. That's antithetical to my job. My job

1148
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: is to make as many people laugh as possible. And

1149
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 3: if I have a joke about white people for whatever

1150
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: reason I might want to, it might be about you,

1151
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: but I want you to be like.

1152
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 5: That's still funny.

1153
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 3: Though he got me, I'm not gonna say nothing about

1154
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 3: you that I wouldn't say about myself.

1155
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 5: Like we just having fun with respect now.

1156
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: I'm also not like when you go over here talk

1157
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 3: crazy about black women and be like it was just

1158
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 3: a joke. Sometimes people want to get their racist feelings

1159
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: off under guys of a joke, nothing funny. You just

1160
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 3: said something like racist and terrible. So I don't play

1161
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 3: in that arena. But I think right now and maybe

1162
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: always in America, we've kind of always needed laughter because

1163
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 3: but it feel it does feel like even in my

1164
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: forty two years of life, it feels more divisive than

1165
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: I remember other years being. And I think social media

1166
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: has a big part to do with that, and I

1167
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: think the algorithms pushing negativity makes that worse as well.

1168
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: So I think my job is more important, probably now

1169
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: than ever, just to make people laugh because the days

1170
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 3: gonna be dark anyway, so I just want to bring

1171
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: some light into an already dark day.

1172
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 4: Well listen, keV.

1173
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: If and when I come to one of your shows,

1174
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm just telling them be there. I'm a cheer for you,

1175
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm an laugh and all the things. I will never

1176
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: sit in the front. I never understand why people go

1177
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: to a comedy show and they like, oh, you are

1178
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: not about to make a joke about me and talk

1179
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: about me.

1180
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: That's how people who be be killing me, Like why

1181
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: would you show like if.

1182
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I got to say something, that's the rule.

1183
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 5: That's the rule.

1184
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 4: That's what you keV.

1185
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 6: I was three, But well, keV, we have definitely enjoy

1186
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 6: having you. We know you got to get out of here,

1187
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 6: but I just got one quick question before we let

1188
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 6: you go.

1189
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: We got something on your list, you ask you, because

1190
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: I do have one you want to go last?

1191
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go Okay, I'll make that quick because this

1192
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: is very, very, very important.

1193
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: So there was a clip that I saw of you

1194
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: on Instagram where you were talking about why men should

1195
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: never cheat and you got very emotional talking about your

1196
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: wife and your relationship with your wife, and I absolutely

1197
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: loved the vulnerability from you because I don't think men

1198
00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: and especially black men, we never see that side. Can

1199
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: you share just a little bit about what that moment

1200
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: was about with you and why you say men should

1201
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: never cheat?

1202
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 5: I think absolutely.

1203
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: For me, my wife is my best friend, she's my

1204
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: greatest asset, she's my superpower, and I would never devalue

1205
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: all the things that she is.

1206
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 5: For some Kuchie, Oh, I love that.

1207
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 3: I love just there's more, And honestly, I could even

1208
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 3: say that just on the sexual aspect, because cheating is usually,

1209
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: you know.

1210
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 5: Sex related.

1211
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: There's a level of sex that's better if you fully

1212
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 3: trust somebody, you feel safe with them, that I don't

1213
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 3: think you can have in a one night stand in

1214
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: an affair or something like that, so I don't have

1215
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: I would feel more guilt and condemnation if I ever

1216
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 3: did that.

1217
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 5: But outside of the sexual aspect, this is somebody I respect,

1218
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 5: honor trust.

1219
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to hurt her, devalue her, and I

1220
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to lose access to the best parts of

1221
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: her or lose her trust. Like I've built that trust

1222
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: over twenty six years. I could destroy that, and I

1223
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 3: probably I don't know if I could ever reach this

1224
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 3: level of trust if I were to violate violated now.

1225
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: And I think one thing that makes me I was

1226
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: just telling somebody else, Like when I'm done with my show,

1227
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: I call my wife and I go to bed. I

1228
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 3: think I'm a better performer, I'm more creative because I'm

1229
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: not wasting There's only so much energy you have, so

1230
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 3: I'm wasting my energy cheating line, hiding stuff. Then I

1231
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: have less energy to be creative. And I think by

1232
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: being faithful it allows me to simply get more rest

1233
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 3: have more of my energy available for creativity because I'm

1234
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 3: not wasting it on frivolous things like that. So I

1235
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: wouldn't even say I started it with that in mind.

1236
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 3: But over the years, I've realized it's a benefit of

1237
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: mind because I don't have a lot of other And

1238
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 3: then if she finds out we are arguing that, I'm tense.

1239
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: I can't be creative if we are arguing in beefing, like,

1240
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 3: I gotta deal with that. But when we're in a

1241
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: good place, a show might come in my mind, a

1242
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: funny video because I'm I'm in a happy place. So

1243
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 3: it's much more for me. It's much more easy to

1244
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: be creative if I'm creating from a place of joy

1245
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: and I'm in most of the time, I'm in a

1246
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: joyce you know, part of my life, so that I

1247
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 3: don't want to I don't want to ruin any of that.

1248
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 4: Thank you for that.

1249
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 2: I love that.

1250
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 4: Thank you for that.

1251
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 5: You're welcome. You're welcome.

1252
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 1: No, like I just you know, as black men were,

1253
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: so they're so prideful and they're never very rarely do

1254
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: they show their vulnerable side. And and I just I

1255
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: just gained so much respect for you at that moment.

1256
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you.

1257
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 6: Yes, as two married women on this show, we absolutely.

1258
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely we sharing.

1259
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 6: We're sharing that clear homes go to bed Joesph, Oh

1260
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 6: my god. Well, well, the very last one that I

1261
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 6: have for you is just simply you know, what is

1262
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 6: something that you're looking to do that you haven't done yet.

1263
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 6: Is there a project or something that you are desperately saying, Man,

1264
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 6: I can't wait to do I can't wait to work

1265
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 6: with this person, Like I can't wait to do this,

1266
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 6: but you just haven't quite done it yet.

1267
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a good question. I don't even I would

1268
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: love to. I don't know if there's just like one person.

1269
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 3: There's so many people I want to work with. Off

1270
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 3: the top of my head, I would love to work

1271
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 3: with Regina Hall. I think she is so funny and

1272
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: her comedic skills are not Obviously she has dramatic skills

1273
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: as well, but yeah, her comedic skills are so funny.

1274
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 3: I think she might be the person, but the project.

1275
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 3: I have some things that I'm working on that people

1276
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 3: would not expect from me, that I hopefully in the

1277
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 3: next year or two will come out.

1278
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 5: I love to.

1279
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: Keep people on their toes, Like you're not gonna be

1280
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: able to say, Kevi is of this guy?

1281
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 5: You know?

1282
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I love Churchie, but when Church's over, I'm not

1283
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 3: going to be like, oh, hey, here's my next church project.

1284
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: Like I'm going to be like, Okay, I want to

1285
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 3: do this.

1286
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1287
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: I want to be able to create in all these

1288
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: different ways. So I think that's a good part about

1289
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: my life is I'm able to be excited about the

1290
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 3: next thing. Always as a project is ending, I'm always

1291
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: at the very beginning of another project. So I want

1292
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 3: to make movies, excuse me, in the next.

1293
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 5: Couple of years.

1294
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 3: So I'm very excited for people to see that part

1295
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 3: of me because I think that I've kind of always

1296
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: wanted to do that, and i think I'm closer now

1297
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 3: than I've ever been.

1298
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: I love that.

1299
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 6: I'm very excited for that for you, and I'm even

1300
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 6: more excited to see how Chryl and I will have

1301
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 6: a role in whatever it is.

1302
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 5: I was going to talk to young people about that.

1303
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 2: Young people a.

1304
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 5: DAVI.

1305
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 6: It has absolutely been a pleasure. Thank you so much

1306
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 6: for spending some time with us.

1307
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: We truly appreciate it and we wish you will and

1308
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: all your endeavors.

1309
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 4: Thank you. keV.

1310
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 6: Sure, Kevin is crazy. There is no other way to

1311
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 6: describe this man but crazy. And there was things we

1312
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 6: didn't even like, we didn't even get into.

1313
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I was gonna say that this conversation could

1314
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 4: have been like hours and hours and hours.

1315
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's it's.

1316
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: A good conversation, but also just just laughing.

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Speaker 4: You know, laughter is great for the soul.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that I loved everything we discussed, but

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Speaker 1: what I really enjoyed was the part where he talked

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Speaker 1: about and for people who didn't see it the podcast

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Speaker 1: he did and I can't remember the name of it,

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Speaker 1: but when he got very emotional talking about how he

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Speaker 1: would never cheat on his wife and how great she

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Speaker 1: is and just all the things. And I just like,

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Speaker 1: man man period, don't like to show that side, but.

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Speaker 4: A black man.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, they're they're They're absolutely not going to allow

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Speaker 1: you to see them get emotional. But a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: And keV, you can come on here. You can come

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Speaker 1: on here and do a set any time.

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Speaker 4: You on anytime.

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Speaker 6: And the one thing I forgot to teach him about,

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Speaker 6: which he figured out along the way, But the one

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Speaker 6: thing I forgot to teach him about is he was

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Speaker 6: I forgot what he was on. And he has said

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Speaker 6: something about I feel like all I know is Delta's.

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Speaker 6: I know so many Deltas, and I'm meant to be like, well, today,

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Speaker 6: you just spent the last hour, so get your.

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Speaker 4: Ship to the next time, not one, but two.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so that's the one thing I forgot to tease

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Speaker 6: him about.

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Speaker 4: But we gonna get you next time, Cavs. Well anyway,

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Speaker 4: so thank you, keV.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna definitely hopefully we can catch him at the

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Speaker 6: finals at some point, because I'm sure he might pop

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Speaker 6: up to.

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Speaker 2: Wherever it may be.

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Speaker 6: But with that being said, Cheryl, let's go ahead and

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Speaker 6: be leveled up by you.

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Speaker 2: What do you have for us today?

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Speaker 1: This is well, you know, I mean, we had keV on,

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Speaker 1: so we got to talk about laughter. Yes, and I

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Speaker 1: found this and I thought it was very fitting. And

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Speaker 1: it says laughter is like a wind show wiper. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't stop the rain, but allows us to keep going.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that is an And the week of Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 6: being canceled and brought back, and the week of just

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Speaker 6: so many things that have tried to steal people's joy,

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Speaker 6: that is an incredible word.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just everything we're dealing with and going through right now.

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Speaker 1: Like we gotta, we gotta have to y'all just keep

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Speaker 1: that in mind just one more time, because I want

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Speaker 1: to do like this laughter is like a wind show wiper.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't stop the rain, but allows us to keep going. Y'all,

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Speaker 1: keep going, keep.

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Speaker 6: That that's right, keep pushing and keep listening to levels

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Speaker 6: to this. Thank you guys so much for just continuing

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Speaker 6: to rock with us. I want to say last episode

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Speaker 6: was our fiftieth episode. Like seriously, if you tuned in

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Speaker 6: to the episode that we had with Sharna, that was

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Speaker 6: our fiftieth episode. So we are out here doing it

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Speaker 6: and we appreciate you guys continuing to rock with us.

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Speaker 6: So we will be back next week with more next

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Speaker 6: level conversations just about the real shit that we go

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Speaker 6: through as women. And just keep in mind, guys, that

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Speaker 6: this isn't just our show, it's our show, and so

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Speaker 6: we want to hear from you. So leave us a

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Speaker 6: review in Apple Podcasts, or you can email us at

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Speaker 6: Levels to this podcast at gmail dot com tell us

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Speaker 6: what you thought about this week's show and what you

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Speaker 6: may want to talk about next. And I know y'all

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Speaker 6: are following us, but I'm gonna tell you again follow

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Speaker 6: us on Instagram at lttpod and so until the next time,

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Speaker 6: keep your mentals ground level and we'll be back next week.

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Speaker 4: Jesus.

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