WEBVTT - An Arrest in The Guthrie Case, But He's Not A Kidnapper

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that folks.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Friday, February sixth, and we want to get

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<v Speaker 2>to write to a number of significant updates in the

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<v Speaker 2>country that is in the story that's captivating in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>the search for Nancy Guthrie. Welcome to this episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Robe.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a list of updates we need to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, we have been doing several updates Robes on

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<v Speaker 2>this story. And we're traveling right now. And we were

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<v Speaker 2>out with a group last night, a big crowd of

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<v Speaker 2>folks and was it not the first thing everything everybody

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<v Speaker 2>said to us when we we came up to us.

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<v Speaker 3>It was absolutely the talk of the party. We were there.

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<v Speaker 4>We're here in San Francisco for the Super Bowl, and

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<v Speaker 4>so yeah, lots of folks you'd think would be talking

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<v Speaker 4>about sports and talking about the parties that they got

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<v Speaker 4>invited to or how they're covering. No, the conversation from

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<v Speaker 4>each group of people we talked to was all about

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<v Speaker 4>missing Nancy Guthrie.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't just a quick question. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>they had questions for us, they know we're covering it.

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<v Speaker 2>But Robes extended conversations. We only mentioned this to say, Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>these are conversations obviously that are going on everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>This is such a mystery.

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<v Speaker 2>And now here we are almost a full week since

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<v Speaker 2>someone has seen this woman in the mystery continues. The

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<v Speaker 2>updates we want to get you can get to you

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<v Speaker 2>are several. First of all, there has been a rest,

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<v Speaker 2>but not in the case of her abduction, hoax ransom notes.

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<v Speaker 2>We were worried about this. We'll get into that. Also

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<v Speaker 2>still saying no suspects. Also, we got an update on

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<v Speaker 2>that blood, the pictures you've been seeing of the blood

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<v Speaker 2>on the front porch of her home. Update about that. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>they passed along to us a deadline robes at least one,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of these ransom notes has come and gone.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an update about cash Ptel, the FBI director getting

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<v Speaker 2>out there, And we got.

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<v Speaker 1>An update on the timeline.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even sure which one of these things stands out,

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<v Speaker 2>but let's start with I guess the arrest robes. We

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<v Speaker 2>were worried something like this might happen. There might be more,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have arrested a California man for trying to

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of this tragedy, ropes, trying to extort

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<v Speaker 2>cash from this family.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and The interesting thing is this is not police separated.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't the ransom note that we heard about specifically

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<v Speaker 4>given to the local affiliate and then to TMZ.

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<v Speaker 3>This actually, police say came.

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<v Speaker 4>After correct, the gu three siblings went and made that

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<v Speaker 4>plea for the would be abductor to contact them so

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<v Speaker 4>that they could start talking. So this impostor took that

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity and found I believe the cell phone numbers of

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<v Speaker 4>Savannah's sister and brother in law and found some of

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<v Speaker 4>their personal information and reached out to them and demanded

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<v Speaker 4>money through bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that's so good? This wasn't a ransom note. This

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<v Speaker 2>was a ransom demand that came in via text. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems like you said the word opportunity. Isn't it wild

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<v Speaker 2>that someone we're looking at it as a tragedy. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>actually looked, Wow, there's an opportunity for me here.

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<v Speaker 4>And I hope they throw the book at him. He

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<v Speaker 4>has been charged criminally, thank goodness, and he should be Uh, Derek,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's kaya.

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<v Speaker 1>Well was his age again?

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<v Speaker 2>But he's twenty seven thirty fairly young, yes, young man,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, he has been charged. So that arrest has

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<v Speaker 2>taken place. Another update we want to give you is that.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is maybe the most important one. Roabes and

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of glanced over this one, is that there's

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<v Speaker 2>another plea from the family forgot to mention the brother

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<v Speaker 2>of Savannah Guthrie. Another video has come out. His was

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<v Speaker 2>much shorter, but Robes, I think this one was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>significant in what he was saying. He's essentially saying, we

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<v Speaker 2>actually don't believe we have talked or heard from the

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<v Speaker 2>actual kidnapper. Wrote his video said to me, more than anything,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they don't believe a ransom has anything to do

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<v Speaker 2>with this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they it's it's It was a short twenty seconds, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one second. Savannah posted it onto her Instagram. It

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<v Speaker 4>was her brother Cameron, and it was notable and that

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<v Speaker 4>he It seems as though it was timed to coincide

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<v Speaker 4>with that first deadline from one of the ransom notes.

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<v Speaker 4>The police told us that there was a five pm

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<v Speaker 4>local Thursday deadline, and that's exactly when Savannah posted this

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<v Speaker 4>message from her brother onto her social media. So it

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<v Speaker 4>was seven pm East Coast time, five pm Mountain time.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not coincidental. That was deliberate.

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<v Speaker 4>They were like, this is basically, you know, they were

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<v Speaker 4>honoring this deadline that was put into this ransom note, saying,

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<v Speaker 4>please let us know what you want talk to us.

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<v Speaker 2>His quote here again it was only twenty one seconds,

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<v Speaker 2>no bagdrop, staying against I think it's a plain white

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<v Speaker 2>wall in a corner, said we want to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't heard anything directly. We want you to reach out.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a way to communicate with you so we

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<v Speaker 2>can move forward, but first we have to know that you.

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<v Speaker 2>We have our mom, we want to talk to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are waiting for contact robes. They can't entertain

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<v Speaker 2>all of this shit because obviously now already someone has

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<v Speaker 2>come out and they know it's trying to fool them.

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<v Speaker 2>So now they're begging for confirmation, a proof of life,

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<v Speaker 2>and in today's technology, that's harder to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And I just you look at it, and typically

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<v Speaker 4>you would think, not that there's a typical kidnapping situation,

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<v Speaker 4>but I would just believe most of us, using common sense,

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<v Speaker 4>would think that the pleading or the communication would be

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<v Speaker 4>coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>The other side.

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<v Speaker 4>They would be making demands, they would be reaching out,

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<v Speaker 4>they would be getting specific and so to have not

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<v Speaker 4>heard from them after these ransom notes showed up. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>give a lot of faith into that concept or into

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<v Speaker 4>that theory that that may be what.

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<v Speaker 1>Is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the FBI guys was up at the press

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<v Speaker 2>conference yesterday and he said it best and Robes, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was jarring to hear him say it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's common sense. But if there is a demand for money,

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<v Speaker 2>you want your money. You're not sitting around for a week,

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<v Speaker 2>not engaging. You want your money. This is just not around.

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<v Speaker 2>He said it in such a way that makes you go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, this isn't a ransom situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And look it's not like, oh, I just want

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<v Speaker 4>to spend a few more moments with eighty four year

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<v Speaker 4>old Nancy Guthrie, who needs medication, who needs constant care.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not something that would be advantageous for a kidnapper

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<v Speaker 4>to be experiencing. So he would want to or they

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<v Speaker 4>would want to get rid of their hostage as soon

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<v Speaker 4>as possible and get their money as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't sit around.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't kidnap somebody and just sit and let them

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<v Speaker 2>sweat it out for a week. He said it in

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<v Speaker 2>such a way, Robes, They're like, oh, okay, obviously this

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<v Speaker 2>is because he doesn't sound like they believe. But after

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<v Speaker 2>all this and all this talk of ransom notes, robes,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't believe they've gotten a legitimate one yet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that means, quite frankly ropes, there's no ransom. So

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<v Speaker 2>where is Nancy and why was she taken out of

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<v Speaker 2>that home? It? Now they have to be you have

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<v Speaker 2>to focus on what has to be a different theory

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<v Speaker 2>than a ransom and a kidnapping.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, And that's why I think this timeline that they

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<v Speaker 4>released was really, really, really interesting. It certainly piquked our interest,

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<v Speaker 4>and we got this and we'll explain why. So police

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<v Speaker 4>are now able to say that, yes, Nancy was dropped

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<v Speaker 4>off by a family member around the exact time they

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<v Speaker 4>had suggested.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you you saw something else. I only saw a

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<v Speaker 2>family member. But you're do have they said officially who

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<v Speaker 2>dropped her off?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I don't know that because there have been so

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<v Speaker 3>many reports.

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<v Speaker 4>I just know some reports are suggesting which family member

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<v Speaker 4>dropped her, but a.

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<v Speaker 2>Not more than one. So she went one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>Only one person saw her last? Is that effect?

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like that is correct. Yes, we do know

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<v Speaker 3>for sure. That she was at Annie and Tomaso. Is

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<v Speaker 3>that you say his name, Tomaso Tomaso.

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<v Speaker 4>At their home having dinner and playing card games. Because

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<v Speaker 4>they actually even spoke to the uber driver who took

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<v Speaker 4>her there, and he was very cooperative with police, they said,

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<v Speaker 4>just explaining that she said she was going to her

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<v Speaker 4>families for dinner and card games, so they know that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>At nine forty eight, the garage door opens. At nine

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<v Speaker 4>point fifty, the garage door closes.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so interesting to me because that says Nancy

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<v Speaker 2>Guthrie's home and safe for the night.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And that is what Tamaso told police that they

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<v Speaker 4>reported this, that he said, I made sure she got

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<v Speaker 4>in and she was safe. That is the last we

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<v Speaker 4>saw her. So there you go, right, And then here's

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<v Speaker 4>where it gets really interesting. At one forty seven am,

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<v Speaker 4>the door bell camera is disconnected. At two twelve am,

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<v Speaker 4>there is motion detected by a camera. It could have

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<v Speaker 4>been animal, it could have been our human, it could

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<v Speaker 4>have been but it was some movement.

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<v Speaker 3>And the problem is apparently Nancy.

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<v Speaker 4>Guthrie didn't subscribe, so there was no way of reviewing

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<v Speaker 4>that video. It just went out into the ether. It

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<v Speaker 4>was not recorded, and then at two twenty eight am,

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<v Speaker 4>that is when her pacemaker disconnected from the app. So

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<v Speaker 4>the one seven am doorbell can being disconnected and the

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<v Speaker 4>two twelve motion detection by something, those two things seem

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<v Speaker 4>like they are connected.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was the one that brought up, not us.

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<v Speaker 2>The share made the point to say, oh, no, it

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<v Speaker 2>could have been an animal. That's a hell of a

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<v Speaker 2>coincidence that when all these other weird things are going

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<v Speaker 2>on the pace. What within forty five minutes, the doorbells disconnected,

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<v Speaker 2>there's motion at the front porch, and the pacemaker's disconnected

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<v Speaker 2>in forty five minutes. Tough to say those oddities, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to believe, just from a common sense standpoint,

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<v Speaker 4>that those are all related. And that is when she

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<v Speaker 4>was taken. And the interesting thing is, because obviously we've

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<v Speaker 4>gone through all of these possible theories about what could

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<v Speaker 4>have happened to Nancy Guthrie, but to know that her

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<v Speaker 4>pacemaker was still connected until two twenty eight that would

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<v Speaker 4>suggest she was alive at two twenty eight am, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the last bit of information we have about her condition.

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<v Speaker 2>This makes no sense that an eighty four year old

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<v Speaker 2>woman is safe at home at ten o'clock at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is she disturbed again? Why did somebody go back

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<v Speaker 2>to that house? What in God's name has happened to

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<v Speaker 2>this one?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? And how? And why is their blood on her front?

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<v Speaker 1>Corse?

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<v Speaker 3>Blood drops it?

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<v Speaker 4>Finally look, we saw them and finally police confirmed it

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<v Speaker 4>is Nancy Guthrie's blood. So we don't know what they

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<v Speaker 4>found inside the home. We don't know if there was

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<v Speaker 4>blood inside the home, if there was a significant amount

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<v Speaker 4>of blood inside the home. We only know that they

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<v Speaker 4>said they believe she was harmed when she was taken,

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<v Speaker 4>and they said that what they saw at that scene

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<v Speaker 4>was gravely concerning the scene, meaning the home en roads.

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<v Speaker 2>We look those images now, that blood in the front

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<v Speaker 2>has been everywhere. We're not talking about a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>specs that you have to look closely for. This is

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<v Speaker 2>someone who had a significant injury, yes, and was bleeding

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<v Speaker 2>and they said that as her blood.

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<v Speaker 1>But folks, yesterday we did get again.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I mentioned several other updates, they have also upped

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<v Speaker 2>the reward for Nancy Guthrie for information leading to finding her.

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<v Speaker 2>And also not really sure what to make of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but cash Ptel is now in the middle of this investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>We think we'll explain the confusion about the FBI director's

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<v Speaker 2>involvement in this case to hear we continue here on

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<v Speaker 2>this Friday morning, February sixth update on the search for

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy Guthrie Robes. Is the FBI director going to not

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<v Speaker 2>to help in this case? But I thought the President

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<v Speaker 2>said he's throwing all resources, including his FBI director, at

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<v Speaker 2>the problem, and now so is he going on not?

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently he is going to Tucson.

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<v Speaker 1>To help out in the investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh but wait, no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is according to the FBI director who is

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<v Speaker 4>there leading the investigation in Tucson. The local guy Jankie

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<v Speaker 4>I believe is his name. His name is what Heath.

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<v Speaker 4>His name is what jank j A n k E

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<v Speaker 4>Janki jonkye Yankee. Let's just go sounds better, sounds terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>I am so sorry if I just massacred his name.

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<v Speaker 4>But Heath, we can call him Heath. He said that

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<v Speaker 4>the trip that Cash Bettel is taking to Tucson is

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<v Speaker 4>unrelated to the Guthrie investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>I will quote him.

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<v Speaker 4>He does have a trip schedule to Tucson that was

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<v Speaker 4>pre scheduled before this, but he is receiving consistent and

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<v Speaker 4>constant updates from our team here.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, you and I believe we both saw.

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<v Speaker 4>There has been criticism once it was announced that cash

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<v Speaker 4>Bettel was coming into Tucson to help with the investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>We saw some folks online, some law enforcement folks on

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<v Speaker 4>television admonishing him for it, saying he is a distraction.

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<v Speaker 3>He is doing this for his own look at me,

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<v Speaker 3>Look at me.

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<v Speaker 4>He inserts himself into high profile cases and actually takes

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<v Speaker 4>away from the important police work that we're doing because

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<v Speaker 4>he serves ultimately as a distraction. And so people were

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<v Speaker 4>up there kind of lambasting him for going and putting

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<v Speaker 4>himself in the middle of it. So look, read what

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<v Speaker 4>you'd like into what Now the FBI is saying, Oh, no,

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<v Speaker 4>he's not inserting himself, he's not coming here for Guthrie.

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<v Speaker 4>He had something else. He had a prior commitment that

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<v Speaker 4>just so happened to be in Tucson, that just so

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<v Speaker 4>happened to be when the biggest story in this country is.

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<v Speaker 3>Going on and he just got criticized.

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<v Speaker 2>It's possible, Okay, it's possible he had a trip. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying I don't know. However, they did tell us he

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<v Speaker 2>was going specifically to help out on this. That's not okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that is what we're talking about. But we're at a story,

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<v Speaker 2>this big, a case, this big, Robes, this is where

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<v Speaker 2>we are and this is not our fault.

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<v Speaker 1>This is his.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter what he says in front of a

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<v Speaker 2>microphone or he tweets. We have to go get a

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<v Speaker 2>second and third and fourth source from the FBI director.

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<v Speaker 2>He's done this repeatedly. Robes put out information significant to

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<v Speaker 2>a case we're all watching, and he has one rong.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't trust him on this case. Robes.

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<v Speaker 4>If he puts out on X or gets up in

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<v Speaker 4>front of in front of a microphone and says they've

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<v Speaker 4>made an arrest and they've got their guy, we're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to be able to report that.

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<v Speaker 1>Pause.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have to actually get a second source.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's look into this because it's been twice now in it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's even the Charlie Kirk assassination.

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<v Speaker 4>Wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>That's tough, and look I am not we're not the

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<v Speaker 2>but we had camera with the guy's name yesterday we

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<v Speaker 2>were watching, so he's been It was in the FBI

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<v Speaker 2>thirty forty years, all the high profile bit cases. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>I have never seen my FBI director on scene. He said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I never saw him outside of his office. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a criticism. He was saying, he lets agents

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<v Speaker 2>do our work and he's not hovering. He's not out

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<v Speaker 2>there all the time. Look, Cash Bezel can have a

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<v Speaker 2>different way of going about it, and some people might

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. It hasn't been beneficial at least from a public standpoint.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and so that maybe could be the reason why

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<v Speaker 4>now he's not going to Tucson to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be a part of the Guthrie investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this was expected as well.

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<v Speaker 2>The other update, they upped the reward possibly here robes

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<v Speaker 2>for finding her. It was a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 2>heard it earlier, big as the story was, and given

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<v Speaker 2>who Nancy Guthrie's daughter is, folks like twenty five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars that's not enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's Upstown people.

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<v Speaker 4>People may made a lot of comments and directed them

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<v Speaker 4>at Savannah as if Savannah had anything to do with

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<v Speaker 4>the reward money. People please, I mean people who are

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<v Speaker 4>coming after her. It's she had nothing to do with that.

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<v Speaker 4>That is crime stoppers, that is the police, that is

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<v Speaker 4>the local resources. They don't encourage families, especially families with means,

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<v Speaker 4>to create huge rewards because now you just incentivize people

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<v Speaker 4>to commit crimes against your family if you have a

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<v Speaker 4>certain amount of wealth.

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<v Speaker 3>So that makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 4>But yes, the reward is now at fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>and that is significant. Look, we can see already that

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<v Speaker 4>people are trying to cash in in criminal, horrific ways

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<v Speaker 4>to try and make some money on someone else's tragedy.

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<v Speaker 4>But this would actually be something that hopefully could incentivize

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<v Speaker 4>somebody who might have information that could lead to finding

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<v Speaker 4>or figuring out what happened to Nancy Guthrie.

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<v Speaker 2>If money works, fine, but it's weird to think you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be incentivized by money to try to help

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<v Speaker 2>out in finding an eighty four year old woman in

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<v Speaker 2>poor health. So I know the money hell, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know on the ransom thing, the FBI guy said, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>publicly ransom. That's the family's call, yes, he said, he said, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have anything to do with that. If they

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<v Speaker 2>want to handle they want to put up he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he said it, that is on them. They don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to authorities. We can advise, but we have

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<v Speaker 2>no say over what they do there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and look, if it were your family member, you

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<v Speaker 4>would try anything. You would pull out all the stops,

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<v Speaker 4>you'll say, you would even say to yourself. And Savannah

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<v Speaker 4>gets this. She's covered enough of these stories, not quite

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<v Speaker 4>like this, but certainly she knows that it probably is

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<v Speaker 4>not that great of a chance that this is actually

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<v Speaker 4>a kidnapping situation where she's talking to a kidnapper.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what she might be.

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<v Speaker 4>And so if it's your loved one, you would you

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<v Speaker 4>would exhaust all options, even if the chances of it

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<v Speaker 4>bearing fruit were minimal, you would still do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I understand why they're doing this, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, folks, no press availability schedule for today, I have

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<v Speaker 2>that right, Robes. They don't have a press car schedule

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<v Speaker 2>for today.

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<v Speaker 4>He actually said after this past one that they are

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<v Speaker 4>not going to hold another one unless there is a

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<v Speaker 4>significant development. He said, there's no point in us or

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<v Speaker 4>me getting up here and just going over the same information.

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<v Speaker 3>And that does make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I have some thoughts on how these press

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<v Speaker 2>conferences are going, but it's everybody's under can you can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine the stress they're under the whole Everybody is watching

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<v Speaker 2>these authorities, how they do every single thing. The scrutiny's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be there, but you know everybody's doing their

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<v Speaker 2>best and want to bring this woman home. We want

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<v Speaker 2>to give you that update. I say that update. There

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<v Speaker 2>were several significant updates about this story. As always, top

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<v Speaker 2>now we appreciate you listening. As always, I am TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Holmes on behalf of my dear Amy Robock. We will

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