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Speaker 1: This is Michael Badgeley and you're listening to the Chargers

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Everybody Chris Hary with you on part two

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Speaker 1: of a week one edition of Chargers Weekly. Here on

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Speaker 1: the new Chargers Podcast Network, Today's guest former Colts putter

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Speaker 1: and big time podcast and media star Pat McAfee. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna discuss this Sunday's matchup between the Colts and Bolts.

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Speaker 1: Pat also shares his thoughts on Andrew Luck's sudden retirement,

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Speaker 1: the competitiveness of Philip Rivers, and his relationship with Tom Telesco,

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Speaker 1: which dates back to their time together in Indie. So

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Speaker 1: let's get right to it. Here's Pat McAfee. Really been

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Speaker 1: looking forward to this one. Very pleased to bring in

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Speaker 1: Pat McAfee ahead of the Chargers. Taken on the Colts

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Speaker 1: and The Pat McAfee Show two point zero on fire Man.

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Speaker 1: Incredible guests Marshawn Lynch, Steve Nash, Jacoby Brissette, Ryan Leaf

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Speaker 1: over the last month or so, Pat, I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: doing this by how are you? I'm incredible? Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having me excited to talk a little

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Speaker 1: shop with me, a little ball with you, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for plucking my show. I mean we have we have

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Speaker 1: a very interesting group of humans that listened to the

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Speaker 1: show and have a good time with us. I'm thankful

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Speaker 1: for them, and I'm thankful for you, Matt. They chap

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Speaker 1: me up. Let's let's just start with the show, because

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Speaker 1: it's so much fun to listen to, it's got to

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Speaker 1: be even more fun doing it. I just listened to

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Speaker 1: the first half of the Marshawn Lynch interview, and I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited for the second. Well, I think I appreciate

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Speaker 1: that I'm a general curious individual. I always have been.

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Speaker 1: I've always had a lot of questions. When I was

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Speaker 1: a kid, it used to get me into trouble in class.

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Speaker 1: I was always very inquisitive and just literally intrigued by things.

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Speaker 1: So getting a chance to have conversations with these humans

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Speaker 1: that are great in their own right and whatever they're

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Speaker 1: great as has just been so much fun. And it's

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Speaker 1: I know that hunting in the NFL is classified it's

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Speaker 1: one of the easiest jobs in comparison to the amount

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Speaker 1: of money that you make, and I would agree with it.

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Speaker 1: I was grossly over what I did for the Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: Colts for eight years, but getting a chance to have

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Speaker 1: conversations with incredibly electric characters like Marshawn Lynch and the

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Speaker 1: others that you mentioned, and hopefully some more on the

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Speaker 1: way here. I'm not having the time of my life

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Speaker 1: and my friends and I are joining and my friends

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Speaker 1: joined me along the ride, and we're just enjoying the

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Speaker 1: hell out of all of it. Brother, And as soon

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Speaker 1: as we don't, we'll have to figure out something new

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Speaker 1: to do. But it's been a blast thus far, and

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Speaker 1: learning what makes the greats great is what I'm all about.

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Speaker 1: And Marshawn Lynch there in the first half of the interview,

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Speaker 1: I was trying to just get him to open up

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Speaker 1: because there was like forty five people in the room

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Speaker 1: that we were talking in, so I didn't know if

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Speaker 1: he was going to be able to get comfortable or not,

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Speaker 1: and I'm so thankful that he did. Marshawn Marshall listen

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Speaker 1: unlike great football player but also an incredibly spart man too,

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Speaker 1: which I don't think a lot of people have got

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Speaker 1: to hear. And hopefully I brought that side album a

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Speaker 1: little bit well. He started to hit his stride right

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Speaker 1: when I stopped, and I'm looking forward to listen to

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Speaker 1: the second half. Like I said, Pat, you're so plugged

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Speaker 1: into Indianapolis. I want to get your reaction to the

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Speaker 1: Luck retirement, especially ten days before you were there. You're

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Speaker 1: interviewing Chris Ballard and t Y Hilton and Darius Leonard.

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Speaker 1: Just your your overall thoughts on what transpired of the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Yeah. I think it was insanity obviously.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a very wild situation that I'm

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Speaker 1: not certain any professional sports franchise in the history of

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Speaker 1: you know, a massive investment from a team into a

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Speaker 1: once in a generation player. By the investment, I'm obviously

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Speaker 1: talking about the contracts and the guaranteed money, not the

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Speaker 1: protection early in his career, which probably would have saved

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Speaker 1: a lot of conversation. But it was one of those

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Speaker 1: things where it was a shot. It's since shock waves

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Speaker 1: not only just in the football world, but everywhere. Everybody

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Speaker 1: days every day, every single year, the coach fans thought,

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Speaker 1: They're being told he was going to come back. And

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Speaker 1: not only not playing the season, but he's gone forever

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Speaker 1: and there is some raw, terrible, regrettable emotion inside the

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Speaker 1: so this could be a turning point for the coach

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Speaker 1: Luck did for Indianapolis. Colt in the city of Indianapolis. Well,

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Speaker 1: if our listeners haven't heard your interview, would you go? Said?

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Speaker 1: that one of the things you said to Jacoby they're

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Speaker 1: the first teuman I talked to from the Indianapolis Cultural

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But Tom Celesto was the guy that

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Speaker 1: A lot of great stuff on the network this week,

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