1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome here, True, got your stage. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: It's been a quiet winter for Yankees fans, but today 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: we are firing up the hot stove with legendary baseball 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: reporter Ken Rosenthal. We're going to talk about the Yankees' 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: quest for pitching, perhaps even Freddy Peralta. We're going to 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: talk about the stalemate that exists between the Yankees and 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Cody Bellinger. Coming up next, this is Pinstripe Territory. Wanted 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: to talk at Joel. That's kind of going all right, 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, and welcome to my friend and friend 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: of the show and friend of the network, host of 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: Fair Territory, and legendary baseball writer Ken Rosenthal. Ken, how's 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: your winter going? 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Oh, it's going just grand Derek, how are you doing well? 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. There are worse jobs to have. 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: I could be tarring a road. But it's a tough 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: winter to be a Yankees' podcaster because there's not a 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: lot to talk about. It's been kind of slow. I 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: think fans are getting frustrated, but it hasn't just been 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: the Yankees that have been slow. All of baseball seems 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: to be kind of moving at a galacial pace right now. 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: What do you make of this? 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to make of it, actually, Derek, 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: and it seems we have this issue every couple of 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: off seasons, or so maybe really every off season if 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: you think about it. But I looked up the other 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: day and the Athletic has a big board of the 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: top fifty free agents. Top three are still unsigned, Tucker, Bregman, Bischett, 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: six of the nine are still unsigned, twenty of the 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: top fifty. So there's no question there is still a 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: lot of unfinished business in the sport. And then the 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: question becomes, well, why is this? And there are probably 32 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: a combination of reasons why. I wrote today about how 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: the luxury tax might be slowing down some teams at 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: the top, the ones that would get penalized the most. 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: But honestly, I don't think that is the main reason. 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: And I don't think the lockout is the main reason either, 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: the potential for a lockout at the end of this season, 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: because one, we don't know that that lockout is actually 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: going to happen in terms of missing the lockout is 40 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: going to happen. There will be a lockout December first, 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: you can bank on that. The question then becomes, though 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: will they actually eat into the schedule, And I don't 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: know that that's the case. And even if they do, 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: is it a month that they miss or is it 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: a whole season. I seriously doubt this sport is going 46 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: to take a full step back and miss a whole 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: season when right now it has momentum for the first 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: time in quite a while. So I'm not exactly sure. 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: But it's just the nature of the baseball calendar. There 50 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: are no signing deadlines, there are no trade deadlines in 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: the winter, and teams and agents stare each other down. 52 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: Teams and other teams stare each other down and wait 53 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: for the best possible deals, and we get these endless delays. 54 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: So just a quick opinion, do you think baseball would 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: benefit for more of like a signing period, kind of 56 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: like they have other sports. I think that would be 57 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: super fun. 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: I do too. And the Union's position on this, Derek 59 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: has always been, we don't want any restriction on the 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: open market, so we don't want a date where free 61 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: agents have to sign by because we think the clubs 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: will manipulate that. Okay, I can see the argument, even 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: if I don't necessarily agree with it, But how about 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: a trade deadline at the end of the winter meetings. 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: So then you have an actual exciting winter meetings for sure, 66 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: not just a couple of signings here or there and 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: a couple of trades. You have a frenzy, and then 68 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: at that point the free agent market remains open and 69 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: you have at least some things that have gotten done. 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why anyone would oppose that. Baseball has 71 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: not adopted it. And the problem we get in collective 72 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: bargaining negotiations, Derek, is that both sides are so focused 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: on the financial end of things they don't get to 74 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: these kinds of things which are actually important. So I 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I think the sport would benefit from that 76 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: kind of deadline. Even if the Union is opposed to 77 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: a free agent signing deadline, at least put something in 78 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: there about trade and how you can only make trades 79 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: until whatever December fifteenth. 80 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: That would be fun. I want to talk about the 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: Yankees quiet winter. This is a Yankee show, after all, 82 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: and you know I've been watching the Yankees since roughly 83 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two religiously. You know, I've maybe missed a 84 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: handful of games, and I stay dialed in all winter 85 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: I'm one of these people that stays up till midnight 86 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: during the winter meetings or one o'clock in the morning, 87 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: waiting for news to break, waiting for that tweet from 88 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal. But this has been kind of a slow winter. 89 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: I got to go see Marty Supremes three hours long, 90 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: and I didn't worry at all about missing any Yankees news. 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: So what do you make of kind of how cautious 92 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: the Yankees seem to be, you know, approaching this winter, 93 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: And do you make anything of sort of the the 94 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: comments from hal Steinbrenner about maybe, you know, profit versus revenue, 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: Are they having any kind of financial troubles or could 96 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: they go out and sign somebody if they wanted to. 97 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: I am sure they are not having financial troubles now 98 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: are they having financial restrictions imposed by the That could 99 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: be the case. And certainly they are not done yet, 100 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: and anyone who thinks they're done is kidding themselves. And 101 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: while the pace obviously is frustrating, not just for Yankee fans, 102 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: but for cub fans, for a lot of teams that 103 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 1: are still not really doing much at the same time, 104 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: none of this can be judged until the winter is 105 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: over and really until opening day, until we see what 106 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: the rosters look like. 107 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: So I still. 108 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: Expect the Yankees to be focused on Bellinger as they 109 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: have been all winter, and right now it's a staring 110 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: match with Boris the agent and Cody himself, and we'll 111 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: see how that goes. 112 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: Now. 113 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: My question is, and I think I raised this on 114 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: one of the shows recently, Fair or Foul Territory, what 115 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: happens if Bellinger signs elsewhere? Then, in my opinion, you 116 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: have a problem if you're not interested in signing Kyle 117 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: Tucker and giving him a massive contract. So that's a 118 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: problem that is yet to really arise because the Bellinger 119 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: thing is ongoing, and their search for a starting pitcher 120 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: that continues as well. And again, who has been traded 121 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: of consequence so far that the Yankees have wanted. I'm 122 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: not sure any of the pictures who've been traded are 123 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: guys the Yankees really focused on. Peralta is still out there, 124 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera is still out there. Schooble is still out there. 125 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: I don't know that he'll be moved, and a number 126 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: of others Mackenzie Gore. So really it's more of an 127 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: industry wide thing than a Yankee thing, in my opinion. 128 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: But it's certainly fair to be concerned, and it's certainly 129 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: fair to judge later. I just don't know that we 130 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: can judge them right now. 131 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: Now. 132 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: One other thing on this whole Yankee subject, Aaron Judge 133 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: is turning thirty four soon, thirty four years old. Now, 134 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge is coming off an amazing season. He's had 135 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: several amazing seasons, but at some point he's not going 136 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: to be this version of Aaron Judge, and it's probably coming, 137 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, within the next two or three seasons 138 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: where the dip starts. They need to take advantage of 139 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge while he is still in his prime. Yankee 140 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: fans know this. I'm not telling them something that they 141 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: don't know, but it kind of is the backdrop to 142 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: this whole thing, and it gives one pause when looking 143 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: at them and thinking, Okay, are things really going to 144 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: be okay? Well they better be okay, because not only 145 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: is Judge aging, Garrett Cole is aging. He's coming off. 146 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: Tommy John, You've got a lot of questions here and 147 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: they need to provide answers. 148 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: I was concerned with re signing Garrett Cole after he 149 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: opted out, I thought, this is the perfect get out 150 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: of jail free card. Even though he's a great pitcher, 151 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: he had just missed half the season with an injury, 152 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: and you're thinking, at some point, this guy's elbow is 153 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,559 Speaker 2: gonna go. I mean, how many guys throw one hundred 154 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: miles an hour forever? And unfortunately that was the first 155 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: thing that happened last spring, was that he broke But 156 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: hopefully he returns strong this year. I want to visit 157 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: the Cody Bellinger situation because the Yankees are obviously interested. 158 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: We've heard rumors that they are making him their top priority. 159 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: I don't blame them. He gives them versatility. He was 160 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: excellent last year. What are their main competitors right now? 161 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: Is Toronto interested? Are there other sleepers that you would 162 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: put out there in the mix? Or is this basically 163 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: just the staring contest between Bellinger and his agent and 164 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: the Yankees in. 165 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: A general sense, Derek, I would never say that the 166 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: Yankees are the only team in the mix. Now. Do 167 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: I know exactly who else is in No, but the 168 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: Mets certainly seem to be a player here. There has 169 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: been talk of the Dodgers maybe on a shorter deal, 170 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: and the Blue Jays seem more focused on Tucker, but 171 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that they can be ruled out of 172 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: any player right now the way they're proceeding. So I 173 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: am quite certain there's competition for Bellinger. I don't know 174 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: that any team wants Bellinger more than the Yankees do 175 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: and see him as more of a priority. So free 176 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: agency is always difficult for even the reporters who cover 177 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: it to read because things are going on that we 178 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: don't know about. And I always kind of caution people 179 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: that we're getting I don't know ten twenty thirty percent 180 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: of what actually is happening, and it's really tough to judge. 181 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: And I always tell people too, Hey, things come out 182 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: of nowhere. You might see something happen today or tomorrow 183 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: or the next day that no one has talked about. 184 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: In fact, most of these moves fall into that category. 185 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: Okamoto was not going to Toronto. Until he was going 186 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: to Toronto, no one had heard about that. So you 187 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on exactly. You don't know where 188 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: the Yankees competition might be. But the only thing I 189 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: will say is I am quite certain that there is competition. 190 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: I just don't know who and to what extent. 191 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 2: I always caution people the same thing that you're saying. 192 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: No one saw Aaron Boone tearing his knee up and 193 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: a Rod getting traded to the Yankees. That happened in 194 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: a period of just a couple of weeks, and it 195 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: was well into the winter. I believe it was February 196 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: before that trade was commenced. So things can unfold and 197 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: take shape that can throw things in radically different directions. 198 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: One name we have heard is Edward Cabrera of the 199 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: Miami Marlins. Now, he's a guy who has electric stuff. 200 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would argue with that, But the 201 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: injury history has been kind of a concern. He's had 202 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: some issues with locating the fastball. He's gotten hit hard 203 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: from time to time. Who do you see as the 204 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: major players in the market for Cabrera. I would think 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: a lot of teams are in on him. 206 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: Yes, there are a lot of teams in on him, 207 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: and he's a guy with a couple of more years 208 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: of control. That makes him appealing. Yes, the injury history 209 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: is real. It cannot be denied. The oils were in 210 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: on him early, and I'm not convinced they're out, even 211 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: after adding Shane bas and Zach Eflin. The other teams 212 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: in the mix, I'm not exactly sure about. But we've 213 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: heard the Mets, we've heard the Cubs, all the usual suspects, 214 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: all the teams that are in need of starting pitching. 215 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure are in touch with the Marlins about Cabrera. 216 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: And my understanding, at least earlier in the week, was 217 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: that this was going to happen with some team, whether 218 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: it was the Yankees or someone else, that there just 219 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: seemed to be a desire on the Marlins part to 220 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: get this done. Now that said, it doesn't mean that 221 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: it will get done if they don't get their price. 222 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: They've been pretty disciplined about what they want in different 223 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: trade talks. So I can see this happening for the Yankees, 224 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: and I cannot see it happening for the Yankees. And 225 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't mean to be wishy washy, but it's just 226 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: difficult to read right now with exactly what the Marlins 227 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: are looking for and exactly who is in the mix. 228 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: I've heard the Marlins fans are anxious to get some 229 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 2: offense because they need a bopper down there. We had 230 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: somebody suggest John Carlos Stanton and I was like, man, 231 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: that would be wild, But I don't see that happening. 232 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: I want to talk about Freddy Peralta. This is a 233 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: guy that if I had a wish list, you know 234 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: that I was making for the Yankees. He's at the 235 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: top of my list. This guy is durable. He pitches 236 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: thirty starts a year, as you see the number seventeen 237 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: and six ass here with a two point seven to 238 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: zero more than a strikeout perating. I mean, he's a 239 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: frequent guest on foul territory. This guy is an absolute stud. 240 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: I'd imagine there's a lot of teams in on him too. 241 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: It's the Brewers' motivation to move him. Is it just 242 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 2: that they don't think they can resign him for the 243 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: kind of market value he provides with this kind of resume. 244 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: There are a lot of teams in on him, and 245 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: I've heard everyone from the Dodgers to the Mets, to 246 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: the Red Sox to the Braves and small market teams 247 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: as well. Because his salary for the season is eight 248 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: million dollars, and that is a relative pittance for a 249 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: starting pitcher of his quality. Now, what is the Brewers' motivation. 250 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: It's a good question, but this might be hard for 251 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: Yankees fans to understand or grasp. But there are teams 252 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: like the Brewers that can't operate the way the Yankees 253 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: and Mets and big market teams do. When they have 254 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: a player who is eligible for free agency at the 255 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: end of a season, when he has only one year 256 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: of club control left, they're going to at least listen 257 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: to offers for him, and they don't expect that they 258 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: can sign him to an extension. The Rays operate this way, 259 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: the Guardians operate this way, the Athletics, and any number 260 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: of small market teams. So when you don't expect you're 261 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: going to be able to sign a guy like this 262 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: to an extension, you're of course going to listen. And 263 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: the question is will anyone meet the Brewers price, which 264 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: is going to be significant because there is a draft 265 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: pick on the end of this thing if you make 266 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: Freddy parolta qualifying offer and he rejects it. So that's 267 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: part of the calculus here. You're not just getting this 268 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: outstanding pitcher, You're getting a draft pick at the end 269 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: of it. So there's a lot going on here. I 270 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: do expect, and I said this on foul Territory the 271 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 1: other day, I do expect he's going to be moved. 272 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: I just believe that the Brewers are going to get 273 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: pushed to the point where they say, Okay, this is 274 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: a good enough trade, we'll do it. They did it 275 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: with Corbyn Burns two years ago. It was the exact 276 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: same scenario. One you're left of club control and Peralta 277 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: in some ways is more desirable because he's making eight 278 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: million and Corbyn Burns was above fifteen. 279 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: Nice well, Ken, thanks for joining. I know that you're 280 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: super busy with all the news that's going on and 281 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: all the stuff that's about to break, because at some 282 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: point the Dan will break, and I'm expecting a flurry 283 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: of news and reports. Check out Ken on Fair Territories, 284 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: a frequent guest on Foul Territory, obviously the Athletic and 285 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: all your great work. 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