1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Motherfucking many years old mini episode. Motherfucking mini episode. Yeah, yeah, yep, 2 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the 4 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: podcast where we die deep deep into the pockets of 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: black conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove the 6 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: theories that you the listener have at home. That's right, 7 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: motherfucker's this a mini episode, a motherfucking mini episode, And 8 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: just like all the many episodes, a true tradition we've 9 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: built here is that I get to hear from youth 10 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: of fans and and unpack the conspiracy theories that you've 11 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: been kicking around, the ones that you weird freaks funk 12 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: around in. And boy, oh boy, is this a fun 13 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: weird one. This is a nice, interesting conspiracy theory that 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: came to me. It was sent to me, and and 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: it came from a person who introduced herself by a 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: name that is not the name from her email. Does 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: that mean that she's writing from a different person's email 18 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: or is she giving me a pseudonym? It's hard to 19 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: know either way. I'm going to play her conspiracy theory 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: for you. Now, what a blank to in my name 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: is Phoebe. I just wanted to look into a theory 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: my mom has had my whole life, well, more like 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: a phobia. She is deathly afraid of cats. Yes, cats, 24 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: small fuzzy feline friends that live in the home. Pets. Yes, 25 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: she thinks. Has told me many many times that cants 26 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: will steal your soul, that thing they do when they're 27 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: pressing into your body and looking up into your eyes. 28 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: She's like, that's them, that's that's them thinking about it 29 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: to try to take your soul. To figure out how 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: to take it. Now, in her older age, I've gotten 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: her to admit that there might have been a movie, 32 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: maybe a Stephen King's story made in the in the eighties, 33 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: that involved this, But I think she had the belief 34 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: before that, and I think that movie just reinforced her fear. 35 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: So I would love if you would look into this, 36 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: if it's just from that story, that Stephen King movie, 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: if that movie even exists, or if this is an 38 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: older thing to be like, you know, cats are not 39 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: to be trusted. Love the show piece. Okay, Well, thank 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: you so much, Phoebe. If that is in fact your 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: real name, I am very excited about this conspiracy theory, 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: because you know what, my wife actually holds the exact 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: same theory. She there's a cat that I think, I 44 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: believe it's straight, that lives in our neighborhood, and every 45 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: time she sees it, she says, that motherfucker's evil. She 46 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: she hisses at it. She's very cruel to this cat, 47 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: and she's cruel to all cats. She's an unkind person 48 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: and someone should shoot her in the knee. But the 49 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: point is she has long maintained that cats steal people's souls, 50 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: and even when I asked her where this comes from, 51 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: it's all. It seems irrational, it seems completely unfounded. And 52 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: so based on your suggestion, I decided to do some research. 53 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: I did some deep digging, and what I found is 54 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: there are a fair amount of cultural and historical examples 55 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: of people making this exact same claim. Your mother, Phoebe 56 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: is not as crazy as you think. For example, the 57 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: Highland people of Scotland believe in a cat sithe that 58 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: is basically like a demonic version of traditional cats. It's 59 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: as large as a dog and very very black. That 60 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: seems to be an ongoing theme with things that people 61 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: call evil. But I won't. I won't get too hung 62 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: up on UH on the racial implications there, but very 63 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: very black with a white stamp on its chest. And 64 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: many believe this cat is actually which or or that 65 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: these types of cats are witches who have the ability 66 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: to transform nine different times in their lifes man in 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: order to you guessed it, suck out the souls of 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: unsuspecting victims. They also believe that this cat sith can 69 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: steal the soul of the dead before God can claim them. 70 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: That they can basically stand next to UH, next to 71 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: a dead body and get a leftover soul. That's sort 72 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: of lingering around now, Why a soul would just hang 73 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: out in a dead body? No idea to keep moving soul? 74 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: What the funk are you? Did? This? Starting to feel 75 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: a little like necrophilia? You sick freak. Get out of there, 76 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: go do go do untethered soul ship you loser. Anyway, 77 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: this forced UH, the the the Highland people to take 78 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 1: extra steps to protect they're dead. They basically would would 79 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: guard these bodies and extinguish fires nearby so that the 80 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: the cat sith couldn't find the dead bodies, and they 81 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: even went so far as to put cat nip in 82 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: their homes while the funerals were going on, in order 83 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: to basically distract the cats that and keep them from 84 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: finding the dead. There are also records of them performing 85 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: some pretty fucked up rituals called tagger tag arm. I 86 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: don't know how to say this. I'm not Scottish, nor 87 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: do I want to be. They sound silly, but tag 88 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: aram or what is in English translated to giving supper 89 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: to the devil, where cats were roasted alive. You heard 90 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: me right, They roasted cats alive on a spit in 91 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: order to conjure the devil, who was then compelled to 92 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: grant them a wish. To those brave enough to perform 93 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: this ceremony, they were burning fucking cats so that they 94 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: could they could get their friend, the devil, to to 95 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: give them wishes. There they were interesting people, the Highland people, 96 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: and I hope I never get to meet them. They're 97 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: also English superstition, and this is the one that I 98 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: think it's most common in America. There's an English superstition 99 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: which I know has carried into modern times that cats 100 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: steal baby's breath. We've all heard it. The belief is 101 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: either that because of jealousy or the smell of titty 102 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: milk on the baby's lips. The cat will intentionally suffocate 103 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: a new baby in the house while they're sleeping. Did 104 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: they love titty milk? Apparently, and they're willing to murder 105 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: for it. They're willing to kill a newborn baby for 106 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: some sweet titty milk. And wouldn't we all who wouldn't 107 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: want some titty milk? And who wouldn't kill a baby 108 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: for that titty milk? Now, this theory the widespread that actually, 109 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: in not in sevente all the way back in a 110 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: jury at the Corners in quest in Plymouth, England, found 111 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: a cat guilty of killing a baby in this way. Similarly, 112 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: in nine in the Nebraska State Journal printed an alleged 113 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: report from a doctor who said he'd witness the house 114 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: cat lying on the baby's breasts U Paul on either 115 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: side of the baby's mouth. The cats live, pressing those 116 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: of the child. In the infant's face as pale as 117 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: that of the corpse, its lips with the blueness of death. 118 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: That basically that cat was sucking the soul out that baby. Now, 119 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: this continues in Iceland. There's a legend of of a 120 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: creature called the Yule cat that basically eats humans who 121 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: do not have on fancy new clothes during the Christmas holiday. 122 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: Basically Christmas time comes. If you're still as bummy as 123 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: you were before the holidays started, you getting eaten by 124 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: the Yule cat. If you're a bummy bitch, you're a 125 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: kitty dish. That's the deal up. In Iceland, in the 126 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: Middle Ages, it was commonly believed that cats were connected 127 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: to Satan, that they were like friends with Satan, so 128 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: much so that they believed that cats were solely responsible 129 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: for the bubonic plague, which killed nearly sixty percent of 130 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: the population around the world. It killed a lot of 131 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: motherfucker's and these niggas thought that cats were more dangerous 132 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: than thanos. You understand, sixty percent better than fifty. That's 133 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: just mat and I, as you know, am a mathematician. 134 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Along with being a comedian and a future father, I'm 135 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: a mathematician first, that is that is the core of 136 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: who I am. A mathematician. And so like the Avengers, 137 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: these people believed that cats were so terrible that they 138 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: teamed up to beat the ship out of cats and 139 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: murder them in the streets. There was there was a 140 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: mass murder of kitty cats because they believed that were 141 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: responsible for the the plague that took over the world. Now, 142 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: the irony of all of this, if any of you 143 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: have studied history much like me, I'm also a historian, mathematician, uh, comedian, 144 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: future father, and of course historian that's number four, but 145 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: number four historian. Those of you that have studied history 146 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: know that the bubonic plague was actually started by a 147 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: disease spread through rats, which cats probably could have helped 148 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: stop if they weren't getting slaughtered by a bunch of 149 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: cat devil weirdos. You know what I mean? Were you 150 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna put a halt to this if we would have 151 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: kept our eye on the ball on this one. But 152 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. They did what they had 153 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: to do and it worked out perfectly for the whites. 154 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: Say anyway, On a less tragic note, there are some 155 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: members of the Buddhist community who believe that cats actually 156 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: are vessels for human souls, that they're not stealing human souls, 157 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: but actually a human soul is where it is stored 158 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: inside of a kidty cat like an urn after you die. 159 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: Not so much it's stealing, but it's borrowing it until 160 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: you your soul is ready to ascend to paradise. Uh And, 161 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of nice. That's a sweet feeling 162 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: that I probably could leave the episode with. I could 163 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: leave you with that information, but I want to leave 164 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: you with one more thing, because I I read. I 165 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: went on Cora, which, as we all know, is not 166 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: the best place to find information, but it is the 167 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: best place to find sass answers. And somebody on Cora 168 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: asked this exact same question that you're asking for, be 169 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: about whether or not cats steal souls, and they the 170 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: best response I found one that I really enjoyed. It said, 171 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: do cats steal human souls? And somebody said, I find 172 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: the best way to lose your soul is to go 173 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: on Cora and ask a really stupid question. You're clearly 174 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: suffering from the same problem, but I'm sure the question 175 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: you ask has done the trick for you. It's certainly 176 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: stupid enough. And boy, oh boy, is that the kind 177 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: of healthy dialogue that I think we all need. You know, 178 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: a nice person goes on the Internet and ask about 179 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: something that haunts their dreams, and then an even uh, 180 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: an even nicer man goes, you're a fucking idiot, stay 181 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: off the internet. And I don't know who's right or 182 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: who's wrong in this situation, but I bet we can 183 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: figure it out, you know. I bet if we put 184 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: our heads together, we'll figure it out. So to answer 185 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: your question of Phoebe, I think there's a fair amount 186 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: of evidence that that cats don't that that cats at 187 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: least have a a toxic history, shall we say, within 188 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: a toxic relationship with with humans and and the human world, 189 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Even if they're not stealing souls, 190 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: they're not to be trusted. And I like cats, but 191 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't trust the motherfucker's I keep my eye on 192 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: a kitty cat, you know what I mean. I'm not 193 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: just gonna let them keep hanging out regular around me. Anyway. 194 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: I think that answered everything that you needed to know. 195 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: That certainly was a lot of information. Not sure how 196 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: much of it was helpful. But if you want to 197 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: ask me a question about murderous animals and get relatively 198 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: unhelpful answers about it, you can send me those questions 199 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: and those conspiracy theories to my mama pot at gmail 200 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: dot com. I would love to hear from you. Also 201 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast review the podcast Jesus Christ, How 202 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: many times do I have to keep telling you fucker's this? 203 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: Are you trying to upset me? Are you trying to 204 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: turn me into a person who rages deep into the night. 205 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: Come on, people, the time is now, you know anyway, Bye, bitch. 206 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: Motherfucking many years, so many years, so, motherfucking many years. So, 207 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: motherfucking many years, so many years, motherfucking many years. So