Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: All Right, So this week's Thursday Therapy, We've got Talia
Speaker 2: we Met. She's the founder of We Met through Thalia
Speaker 2: at High End, a matchmaking agency base out of New
Speaker 2: York City in Miami. So she has a book out
Speaker 2: called how to Attract the Right Guy, Avoid situations, step
Speaker 2: into wifey energy, and get him to commit. So we
Speaker 2: don't she's not on yet, but you don't ever do this,
Speaker 2: but because usually we just go straight into it on
Speaker 2: Therapy Thursday. But I've got obviously Kristen and Alan today.
Speaker 2: So while we were waiting on her, I love this
Speaker 2: book for a couple of reasons. But I also remember
Speaker 2: when I got divorced, someone gave me the book Why
Speaker 2: Men Love Bitches.
Speaker 1: I've not heard that that's an actual title. That's incredible. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it is never heard. I'm pretty sure it is.
Speaker 1: That's incredible.
Speaker 2: And it was something where I'm like, okay, because I
Speaker 2: feel like when you're dating, you know, there's all these
Speaker 2: things like all right, step into wife the energy, you know,
Speaker 2: get him to commit. But and I think back on
Speaker 2: that book now and i'm reading it, I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that because that's not me.
Speaker 2: And so then with this situation too, like I'm really
Speaker 2: excited to talk to her because I feel like when
Speaker 2: it's the right person, he's going to commit. So like Alan,
Speaker 2: it's like if I was to play the quote unquote
Speaker 2: games or you know, not return the cat, Well I
Speaker 2: didn't for a minute, but not because I was trying
Speaker 2: to play a game. I just I wonder do you
Speaker 2: guys even like that, like just be you because right
Speaker 2: because you're gonna you're gonna commit to the right person.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it's all about the timeframe as well. What
Speaker 4: period of dating are you in if you just split
Speaker 4: up with someone and you just want to have fun,
Speaker 4: So therefore you can be whatever you can put on
Speaker 4: whatever persona you want because it doesn't matter. You're not
Speaker 4: looking for your husband at that point. And I guess
Speaker 4: one of my questions is based around this, like when
Speaker 4: does it become a point where is dating It's almost
Speaker 4: like you need to a strategy, you know, but dating,
Speaker 4: and that shouldn't be the case. So based on the
Speaker 4: timeline that you're in and what you want to achieve,
Speaker 4: when is it the right time to be yourself and
Speaker 4: if you want to be a wife, then give off
Speaker 4: those vibes. But that's not always the right thing at
Speaker 4: the right time.
Speaker 1: I'm going to sound a little ruthless, but I guess
Speaker 1: for me, like it's a very cut and dry policy,
Speaker 1: like I'm either dating to marry you or I'm not
Speaker 1: dating at all. Like I've never been like a I
Speaker 1: don't even want a second date with someone who's not
Speaker 1: interesting to me in that way. I get that, like
Speaker 1: I'm pretty all in, which we've seen from track record,
Speaker 1: But you know, like I'm like, it shouldn't be a strategy,
Speaker 1: which I hate and I agree with Alan because it
Speaker 1: is so strategic and where do you even find real
Speaker 1: people anymore?
Speaker 2: Well, she just got on, so let's get her on
Speaker 2: and then we'll dive right into it.
Speaker 1: Hello, how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm Janna Alan Kristen. Well, we just started chatting before
Speaker 2: you came on out your new book that's out How
Speaker 2: to Attract the Right Guy. And Allan even an interesting
Speaker 2: point because I was saying, basically, I've read you know
Speaker 2: the Why Men Love Bitches and and you Know things
Speaker 2: to do for dating. But when I was reading those books,
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I don't want to play quote unquote games.
Speaker 2: It's not saying they're games, but I just want to
Speaker 2: be me. And and then I was asking him, like,
Speaker 2: as a guy, you know, do you like that? And
Speaker 2: you basically said it was about the timing, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You get people who date for very short periods of
Speaker 4: time or on their own matchmaking sights, and then you
Speaker 4: get people who you see them or you speak to them,
Speaker 4: they've been they've been dating people for years and they've
Speaker 4: been on dating apps for years. As a as a woman,
Speaker 4: when does it become a point where you end up
Speaker 4: just settling for someone that the best person of an
Speaker 4: average bunch, or debate is it actually true love? And
Speaker 4: when I think there's like a cloudy the area there,
Speaker 4: will they date so much that they almost settle for
Speaker 4: the person who is just the best of that bunch
Speaker 4: and not the actual true love?
Speaker 5: Do you find that a lot?
Speaker 3: So as a matchmaker and as a dating coach, I
Speaker 3: advise against that, you know, and I talk about this
Speaker 3: in my book about being really clear about what you're
Speaker 3: looking for, because when you're trying to find someone without
Speaker 3: their description, that's like trying to find a missing person
Speaker 3: without the description. So it's almost impossible. So what I
Speaker 3: recommend in chapter three is to make a list of
Speaker 3: the things that you're really looking for in a person,
Speaker 3: so that when he does show up in your life,
Speaker 3: you can easily identify and say this is my guy,
Speaker 3: like this is the one who I want to start
Speaker 3: a family with, I want to settle down with.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like love at first sight is a
Speaker 1: true or false?
Speaker 3: I think that there's lust at first sight. I think
Speaker 3: that physical attraction. Yeah, I think there's absolutely lest at
Speaker 3: first sight. Yes, I don't think there's love at first
Speaker 3: sight because how can you try really love someone without
Speaker 3: knowing who they are? But I do believe in lust
Speaker 3: at first site for sure.
Speaker 1: Does that translate to love at first site eventually for you?
Speaker 1: Or do you think let's get all of that out
Speaker 1: of the way first before it becomes something more.
Speaker 3: I think, going back to what I was saying, I
Speaker 3: think that there's no such thing as love at first
Speaker 3: sight because I think if you really define love, that's
Speaker 3: knowing someone's flaws. How can you love someone's flaws and
Speaker 3: who they really are and everything they embody if you
Speaker 3: don't actually know them.
Speaker 1: So do you think the chemistry that you have with them, though,
Speaker 1: can lead or be like a signal or symptom to
Speaker 1: love eventually, Like in the ratio of people that have
Speaker 1: had love lust at first sight, do they transfer over
Speaker 1: to like marriage or do you think that's just like
Speaker 1: crazy hormonal like primal attraction.
Speaker 3: I would say it's probably pheromones and just physical attraction
Speaker 3: doing its same.
Speaker 2: Honey, what do you think it was? Because you always
Speaker 2: say I'm staring it up because you always say it was.
Speaker 2: I sure because we both say, you know it was
Speaker 2: that love it quote unquote love at first. I knew
Speaker 2: from the moment that I met you saw you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we had also spoken for a few weeks.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sure, sure, So we.
Speaker 4: Got to know each other, not physically face to face,
Speaker 4: but we got to know each other on face thing.
Speaker 2: So, Alan, what would you say in you know, when
Speaker 2: it comes to attracting the right guy and the things
Speaker 2: that women do like so stepping into the energy, what
Speaker 2: do you think is one of the biggest turnoffs that
Speaker 2: you see from dating? And then I'm curious to them
Speaker 2: to throw it back at you tell you who you
Speaker 2: know when you're writing this, like where do you think
Speaker 2: the women fall fall short with that, so like, what's
Speaker 2: the guy's perspective and then this, yeah, experts for experts.
Speaker 5: Well that's I think that's an individual thing, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Well, what don't you like when you were dating girls?
Speaker 2: Like what was what was too much? I guess, or
Speaker 2: what was a turnoff? Instantly?
Speaker 5: Masculine women for me is a is a big thumb off?
Speaker 3: Oh I love that. Yeah, yeah, that's my chapter two.
Speaker 2: So can you explain that just a little because I
Speaker 2: remember when you did help me. You you that was
Speaker 2: the first time I ever heard that was from you
Speaker 2: when we first started dating.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think you find out as you get older and
Speaker 4: as you're mature what type of women you're actually not
Speaker 4: just attracted to, but connect with. And I don't connect
Speaker 4: with masculine women. I'm quite a masculine guy, so therefore
Speaker 4: I connect more with feminine women. So offtter feminine women.
Speaker 4: So a masculine women for me on a first date,
Speaker 4: who is overpowering or what?
Speaker 5: That's just not for me.
Speaker 2: So you're not talking like muscles, You're talking like energy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what would you say?
Speaker 3: For sure? I agree with him one hundred percent. Feminine
Speaker 3: femininity is what makes women so powerful and so magical
Speaker 3: and magnetic. And in chapter two I talk about the
Speaker 3: feminine energy and how if you can hone in on
Speaker 3: that and you can turn off your boss babe, you know,
Speaker 3: while you're on a date with someone, how that will
Speaker 3: lead to way more attraction for the guy, because guys
Speaker 3: are attracted to feminine energy.
Speaker 1: So I get that.
Speaker 2: I also think though, too, just to like defend my
Speaker 2: masculine girls out there, because I think I've played in
Speaker 2: both arenas where my masculine energy comes out when I'm
Speaker 2: feeling like I either have to put on a front
Speaker 2: or defend or to like when I'm trying so hard.
Speaker 2: Is when it would really come out for me, was
Speaker 2: when I was like really really trying hard as opposed
Speaker 2: to just stepping into who I was.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that though, and I would also
Speaker 1: say I think you and I are wired similarly, like
Speaker 1: we will be severely independent to the point like we're
Speaker 1: not we don't need you. But then I think the
Speaker 1: right person for both of us has been able to
Speaker 1: take that and demolish it pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because I think I did that with you too,
Speaker 2: Like I at first I think I had a big
Speaker 2: old shield up, but then your energy then just brings
Speaker 2: me down to who I'm supposed to, my authentic femininity.
Speaker 3: Feminine energy is about receiving, because what we forget is
Speaker 3: when guys are in their masculine, they want to provide
Speaker 3: and protect and they want to give us something, whether
Speaker 3: that's carrying, you know, carrying our bags into the house
Speaker 3: or you know, whatever that is. And so I think
Speaker 3: it's all about remembering too. It's okay to receive, and
Speaker 3: it's okay for a guy to step into his masculine
Speaker 3: and for you to be the receiver.
Speaker 1: When you met your person? Did was it tricky to
Speaker 1: know what you know? Because you have a very you're
Speaker 1: very educated in this matchmaking world. So is it hard
Speaker 1: to take off almost your business hat essentially when you
Speaker 1: start dating someone? Now, now what you know to like
Speaker 1: not overanalyze.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, no, I think I I
Speaker 3: think if any of my friends were here, I think
Speaker 3: they would chime in and say, she actually follows her
Speaker 3: own rules. And so I'm not typically the one going
Speaker 3: through like a crazy heartbreak where someone love bomby because
Speaker 3: I'm really good identifying things and I also know what
Speaker 3: I know myself, and I write that in the book too,
Speaker 3: Like chapter one's about looking within and understanding who you
Speaker 3: are so that you know what's the best match for you.
Speaker 3: Because if you don't know who you are and you
Speaker 3: don't know what's a good fit, that's going to be
Speaker 3: really hard to find that right person.
Speaker 2: What's the wife the energy?
Speaker 1: What do you think that energy is?
Speaker 3: It's the feminine energy. It's about like, it's about receiving.
Speaker 3: It's about being in your feminine It's about you know,
Speaker 3: showing up in a way that's also like I'm open,
Speaker 3: I'm available, you know, when you're out, and about if
Speaker 3: you're trying to meet someone organically, it's about showing up
Speaker 3: with that openness, because I do think that sometimes my
Speaker 3: girlfriends are single and they're out and I'm like, girl,
Speaker 3: you don't look approachable right now, Like you look pissed,
Speaker 3: you know, and we need we need you to be
Speaker 3: in that like happy, like vibrant energy to attract that
Speaker 3: right guy who's going to like spot you or see you.
Speaker 3: And so why the energy is a lot of things
Speaker 3: you have to read the book, but I think the
Speaker 3: biggest one I want to say is you have to
Speaker 3: be in that open, receiving moade.
Speaker 1: If you find yourself accidentally love bumbed, say someone that's listening,
Speaker 1: it's been accidentally love bumbed, because I think it still
Speaker 1: gets the best of us. Right, even if you're like
Speaker 1: well educated, know yourself, you're like, oh, oh, that's exciting.
Speaker 1: Now what is this like that's not the guy for you?
Speaker 1: Or is there like a series of questions?
Speaker 3: I would say the first thing is if someone you're
Speaker 3: only seeing them for the first time on a first
Speaker 3: date or second day at third date, and they're telling
Speaker 3: you how much they like you and how they can't
Speaker 3: wait for you to meet their family and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: It's like, how do you know you like me? You
Speaker 3: don't even know me? You know, that's love bomby. It's
Speaker 3: it's not it's not genuine, and it doesn't come from
Speaker 3: a good place. It's like they have another hidden aginda
Speaker 3: that you don't know about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that actually made my throat close when you said it.
Speaker 2: So so and I'm like, well you feah the person,
Speaker 2: it's all good, it's happy.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I remember in college I dated this
Speaker 1: gentleman briefly and super super sweet, but it was like
Speaker 1: date too and I came out This still gives me
Speaker 1: a vibe and I think he meant well, I hope,
Speaker 1: and I hope he's not behind bar somewhere, but he
Speaker 1: I came out to my vehicle to like leave for
Speaker 1: my serving shift, you know, four thirty PM, real motivated, right,
Speaker 1: And I come out and there's like this. Not only
Speaker 1: is there a love letter and a rose, but it's
Speaker 1: put inside one of those plastic protectors so in case
Speaker 1: it rained, his words wouldn't be smudged. And I thought,
Speaker 1: I can't breathe. I can't breathe in how do I say?
Speaker 1: I'm having an EpiPen like needed reaction right now even
Speaker 1: telling the story. But I just remember being like, this
Speaker 1: is too much, too soon. Obviously we were young, but
Speaker 1: I have heard girlfriends like older, you know girlfriends we
Speaker 1: have now that go on dates and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that just escalated really quickly, and it just really throws
Speaker 1: off my energy. It makes me feel like a little unsafe.
Speaker 3: I love how you bring up energy because I always
Speaker 3: say your nervous system will always guide you in the
Speaker 3: right direction. So if you tap, if you know yourself
Speaker 3: and you're tapping in after a date and you're like,
Speaker 3: how do I feel how this person make me feel
Speaker 3: if you feel like your nervous system shutting down, you
Speaker 3: kind of like when you said your throat closed up.
Speaker 3: That is such a telltale sign that the universe, god,
Speaker 3: whatever you pray to, is trying to warn you that
Speaker 3: this isn't it sounds great on the outside. I even
Speaker 3: tell one of my personal stories I think in chapter
Speaker 3: three about someone trying to love on me and say
Speaker 3: all the right things, but like my nervous system was
Speaker 3: trying to communicate, And that's such an important thing to
Speaker 3: listen to because your body will never steer you the
Speaker 3: wrong way.
Speaker 1: Ever, how did you meet the person that you are
Speaker 1: in a relationship with now?
Speaker 3: Oh? Just through friend introduction. I had someone play match
Speaker 3: to make your on me.
Speaker 1: So I love that too, and I sometimes feel overwhelmed
Speaker 1: for like the women now that are dating and men
Speaker 1: I suppose, but that have to do everything like through apps.
Speaker 1: It just feels so tricky to me. Do you have
Speaker 1: any advice for people navigating apps and swiping left right?
Speaker 3: I do, so I think that the obvious thing that
Speaker 3: comes to my mind is tell all of your friends
Speaker 3: that are taken to think of you just be like, hey,
Speaker 3: if you meet a guy who's x y Z think
Speaker 3: of me, especially for in a room at like a house,
Speaker 3: swimming party or a barbecue and you see someone who
Speaker 3: single and seems really great, think of me in that moment.
Speaker 3: I think sometimes the take and married friends forget about
Speaker 3: the single friends. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: like those single friends are really relying on them to
Speaker 3: make introductions that are more insightful because dating apps are
Speaker 3: a lot harder because you don't have anyone who's pre
Speaker 3: vetted that person. There's no vouching. You're kind of just
Speaker 3: hoping for the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm so glad to be off the
Speaker 2: dating apps.
Speaker 1: Me too, I'm glad you're off the dating we were.
Speaker 2: I was looking at old photos and it was when
Speaker 2: I was divorced, and I was like, oh my gosh, babe.
Speaker 2: I was like these photos of me, what did you say?
Speaker 5: I was starving?
Speaker 2: I was starving. He goes, he goes, did you actually
Speaker 2: post this photo? And it was me and like a
Speaker 2: bikini top in the pool with like my hands up
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is I'm cringing at myself from
Speaker 2: I was. He's like he's like, He's like, wow, bab
Speaker 2: And I was like and then the filters, the amount
Speaker 2: of filters I was putting on my face and just
Speaker 2: like the sexy like trying to show my boobs and
Speaker 2: just I mean, I was really putting it out there
Speaker 2: in a very as a one would say, hungry, thirsty way.
Speaker 2: But it's hard, you know, and I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: But it was funny because we were at baseball and
Speaker 2: I started laughing about it because my ex was there
Speaker 2: and we were talking about dating apps, and I was
Speaker 2: just like, Oh, it's got to be it's got to
Speaker 2: be rough out there, you know. And he's like, when
Speaker 2: I get back on, he's like, maybe you can help
Speaker 2: me with profile pics. I'm like, dear lord, what is
Speaker 2: this world coming to. I'm gonna my ex husband with
Speaker 2: this profile photost.
Speaker 1: I don't have much to say in the pre vetting
Speaker 1: section of referencing prevetting, No.
Speaker 2: But I was like, oh, I just can't wait to
Speaker 2: sit down with, you know, the one he does end
Speaker 2: up with, because I would love that. I'd like everyone
Speaker 2: to be happy in all the things. But back to this, No,
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine. You know, the world of dating.
Speaker 2: It's hard, especially when you when someone really wants to
Speaker 2: find that person because it's lonely when you don't like
Speaker 2: As much as I found peace being alone, there's something
Speaker 2: so magical to have an incredible partner by your side,
Speaker 2: and you know, I want that for everybody to have
Speaker 2: that amazing relationship and to have, you know, peace in
Speaker 2: all the areas alone but also in a relationship. So
Speaker 2: I love you know that you're trying to help people
Speaker 2: guide them in the right way. But having said that,
Speaker 2: in the dating world there is a lot of ghosting.
Speaker 2: So for the people that I've experienced that, you know,
Speaker 2: do you talk about that at all in your book
Speaker 2: and kind of how to navigate because it makes you
Speaker 2: feel like you're not good enough, And I think that's
Speaker 2: just I know I felt that in past when that
Speaker 2: would happen. But to me, I always go, okay, I
Speaker 2: always know at the very end, you know, it all
Speaker 2: happened for a reason. I found the one that I
Speaker 2: was supposed to end up with. But it's hard to
Speaker 2: see that in the moment.
Speaker 3: I know, and I always say, rejection is God's protection,
Speaker 3: and I think that's the biggest thing we have to
Speaker 3: remember is that if he wanted to, he would, and
Speaker 3: if he wanted to reach out. He would. There's no
Speaker 3: excuses for it, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: it's just protecting you and that will lead you to
Speaker 3: meeting that right person instead of wasting more time, more dates,
Speaker 3: investing your energy into someone that is not meant for you.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is with the ghosting culture.
Speaker 3: I know that, you know, when I was single, I
Speaker 3: would always say the text like, hey, I think you're amazing.
Speaker 3: I just don't think we're the right fit, and I
Speaker 3: wish more people would do that. I don't touch on
Speaker 3: it much in the book, just because I felt like
Speaker 3: I had I mean, there's so many things I wanted
Speaker 3: to cover in the book, and that's why I'm writing
Speaker 3: a second book, because there's just so I wanted to
Speaker 3: be digestible, and it's such a quick read, and each
Speaker 3: chapter has an activity, like an exercise, and so I
Speaker 3: couldn't put everything in there. But I definitely think ghosting
Speaker 3: is something you just have to remember, like, don't take
Speaker 3: it personal. That person was either not ready or you know,
Speaker 3: some of the past came back into their life, which
Speaker 3: you don't want to get involved in a triangle situation anyway.
Speaker 3: So just always know that there are things that the universe,
Speaker 3: God sees that you don't see, and it's just protecting
Speaker 3: you from something that's not meant for you.
Speaker 2: Kristin, did you ever ghost anybody?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 3: Did you?
Speaker 5: Bet?
Speaker 1: Probably my younger years. For sure, I had to of
Speaker 1: just because I wasn't. I didn't want to hurt anyone's
Speaker 1: feeling one thousand percent so and not to be that
Speaker 1: ghosting isn't hurtful. But I think it wasn't called ghosting,
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know what that G form
Speaker 1: was called, but.
Speaker 2: Avoiding I think that was exactly the same thing. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't because I would I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
Speaker 2: But then again, post divorce, I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this differently. And I remember I I
Speaker 2: even sent it to Julie. I'm like, okay, this is
Speaker 2: a copy paste. I was like, how does this sound?
Speaker 2: You know, I had a great time, you were very great.
Speaker 2: Having said that, this is just not the relationship that
Speaker 2: I see. It was like, very kind, but you're a
Speaker 2: great person. And then it was like, you know, I
Speaker 2: totally get it. But if you ever I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I just I closed it like I tried to. I
Speaker 2: tried to be kind, but then you kept trying. He
Speaker 2: kept trying to open the door again. I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 2: I already said I don't. I said everything I wanted
Speaker 2: to say. And that's when my friend Julie was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: now you can say nothing. Like now you're allowed to
Speaker 2: say nothing because you've already said everything.
Speaker 5: I think ghosting also is un lesson.
Speaker 4: I'm may be completely wrong here, but I think a
Speaker 4: part of ghosting is if you're a man and you've
Speaker 4: ghosted someone, a lot of that is your negative relationship
Speaker 4: with yourself because you're ghosting someone. So if you've ghosted someone,
Speaker 4: then you've been complimentary and you've led them in a way.
Speaker 4: But once you realize, okay, you've you've led them in
Speaker 4: and you know that they want you, No, no, I
Speaker 4: don't want them, or I don't I feel like I'm
Speaker 4: good enough to have this person, or it could, but
Speaker 4: again it goes back to where you are yourself and
Speaker 4: what your relationship as for yourself. Some people do it
Speaker 4: just if you wanted and then discard that person.
Speaker 2: I used to do that back in the twenties. Negative
Speaker 2: that was my Yeah, messed upness for sure. I can
Speaker 2: relate to that piece from twenties.
Speaker 4: So do you coach people personally as well, like one
Speaker 4: to one or do you just guide them towards your book?
Speaker 3: No, So I have two different companies. To have my
Speaker 3: matchmaking company and then I have my coaching business. So
Speaker 3: my coaching business, I coach men and women. And that's
Speaker 3: if you know, if you're always out being social when
Speaker 3: you're meeting a ton of people and let's just say
Speaker 3: your roster's pretty big and you're just trying to learn
Speaker 3: how to date better and get better results, that's kind
Speaker 3: of where I come in. And I love a really
Speaker 3: good complex situation of like, okay, we're on date three
Speaker 3: and this is what happened at dinner, and like I
Speaker 3: just made your advice on this, like how do I navigate?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, they're so good. I love a
Speaker 3: good complex situation.
Speaker 2: I'd be so f on. Well, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for coming on the show. Everyone go grab her book
Speaker 2: how to track the right guy, avoid situationships, step into
Speaker 2: wife the energy, and get him to commit. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for coming on.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, thank you, of course
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bye girl, bye