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Speaker 1: was like, shit, man, like, I get it. I frustrated.

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Speaker 1: Should not have yelled at Andrew Wiggins like that, But

429
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 1: it's over. It was over in five seconds and it's

430
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 1: a total non issue. This exact same thing happened to

431
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Speaker 1: me when I was in junior college my second year

432
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 1: plan and I was up in Utah and it was

433
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 1: two on one fast break. I was trailing the play.

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Speaker 1: Miles Gatewood, our guard, our starting guard, was driving the

435
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Speaker 1: right wing and shout out to milesgate would excellent three

436
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Speaker 1: level scoring guard, one of my favorite players that I

437
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Speaker 1: played with in my time in college, and running his

438
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Speaker 1: right lane and him and I never had any issues,

439
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: like we were not people that had beef at any

440
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: point over the course of the season. And there was

441
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 1: a it was a two on one, I was trailing him,

442
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: he missed a layup. I yelled at him to pass

443
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 1: me the ball. After the play. Mind you again, I'm

444
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Speaker 1: twenty one years old at this point, so I'm a

445
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 1: little I'm I'm still a competitive hothead now at thirty two,

446
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 1: so you can imagine what I was like when I

447
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: was twenty one years old and didn't know any better.

448
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 1: I got we got into an argument. Miles did the

449
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 1: exact same thing that Andrew Wiggins. Dad was like, shut up,

450
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, as he should have right and uh. And

451
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: then our coach actually pulled both of us out of

452
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Speaker 1: the game and we ended up having to sit ie

453
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Speaker 1: for like it was either for the re I can't

454
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Speaker 1: even remember exactly how long we sat, but we had

455
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: our little like discipline disciplinary measure from the coach. I

456
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: went back and watched the tape after the play. I

457
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,959
Speaker 1: wasn't open. I was. I thought it was a two

458
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Speaker 1: on one from my angle, but Miles had a better

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Speaker 1: angle because he was coming from the right wing. There

460
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: was a player trailing me. Had he hit me, there

461
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 1: was another guy that could have made a defensive play.

462
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Speaker 1: So I would just flat out in the wrong. But

463
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Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like Miles and I buried it and

464
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: moved on right away. I was wrong. I apologized to him,

465
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: and we moved on, Like it's just such this kind

466
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: of stuff is so incredibly common in basketball games because

467
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: like the competitive energy just gets kind of like ramped up.

468
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: And Steph Curry had an interesting comment earlier on in

469
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Speaker 1: the season about Potzemski and his like kind of fire

470
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: that he plays with, and he's like, I would much

471
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Speaker 1: rather have a guy like that that I need to

472
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Speaker 1: tell to calm down a little bit, then a guy

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Speaker 1: that doesn't have that, And I'm trying to get him

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Speaker 1: to show some of that care, to show some of

475
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Speaker 1: that fight. And I could not agree more with Steph

476
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Speaker 1: in the sense that, like, like I mean not to

477
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Speaker 1: go out Andrew Wiggins here, but there are some times

478
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Speaker 1: with Andrew Wiggins where you're like, come on, dude, like

479
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: like you're the best athlete on the floor, Like show

480
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: some fight, show me what you got, man. Like there's

481
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Speaker 1: some times that you get like that, and like that's

482
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Speaker 1: the thing, like I would much rather have in my

483
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Speaker 1: foxhole in a basketball game a dude who's a little

484
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 1: bit of a hot head than a dude who is

485
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Speaker 1: like that can go catatonic for extended stretches, And that's

486
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: the thing, Like Paziemski is definitely a little bit of

487
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Speaker 1: a hot head. He definitely has that really high level

488
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: competitive energy. But that, to me is one of his strengths.

489
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Speaker 1: It's something he will have to learn to control over

490
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Speaker 1: the years. Like, yeah, you're right, you can't. You can't

491
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Speaker 1: yell at your teammate for missing a red. By the way,

492
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Speaker 1: that's another thing that we haven't even mentioned. Guess what

493
00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: happens all the fucking time in basketball games. Guys miss

494
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: open teammates. It happens all the time. Even the best

495
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: I've I've seen the best passers in the NBA misreads.

496
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: From time to time it happens. It is. So that's

497
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: the thing, Like, that's the lesson on the Pozemski side

498
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: of it, is like you've got to learn to just

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Speaker 1: kind of control your emotions a little bit better when

500
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Speaker 1: you're in those situations. But my bottom line is that

501
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: I'm getting at here. There is no crisis, there's no

502
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: festering dislike between teammates. There I guarantee you if you

503
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: want to around the locker room. Pazemski'sen struggling a little

504
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: bit as of Lady's going through a little bit of

505
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: a rookie wall concept. We talked about yesterday when we

506
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Speaker 1: were talking about Victor women Yama. It is I guarantee

507
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: you they all have his back, and I guarantee you

508
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: they all view him as somebody that they need get

509
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Speaker 1: the I thought it was really interesting what Steve Kerr

510
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: said after It was either in after their last game

511
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: or it was an a presser, but where he was like,

512
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Speaker 1: I really do think this team has a chance to

513
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Speaker 1: make a playoff run. Like that, to me is encouraging

514
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Speaker 1: because it's the same Steve Kerr that said last year

515
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: very differently that he did not think that they were

516
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: that type of team. So I think that that's encouraging.

517
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't view this as a speed bump at all whatsoever.

518
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Speaker 1: And I just wanted to kind of give my two

519
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Speaker 1: cents on what those kinds of arguments mean to me

520
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: in terms of what basketball games look like in reality. Nextly,

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00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: the next question, I should say, the done with the

522
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: nineties trend. So apparently there's all these clips going around.

523
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: I've seen a few of them, but just like showing

524
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Speaker 1: specific examples of like like Muggsy Bogues ripping Michael Jordan

525
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: or Michael Jordan getting the Ben Simmons treatment. Getting like

526
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: ignored at the three point line, or just various stretches

527
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: of bad basketball that are being displayed and being like,

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Speaker 1: we're so done with the nineties. These guys are the

529
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: are being portrayed as the golden age of hoops, and

530
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: and it clearly isn't like that. I want to push

531
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Speaker 1: back against that a little bit, because for Charters, you

532
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: can take any basketball game, including some of the best

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Speaker 1: basketball games that have ever been played. For instance, like,

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Speaker 1: let's take like that Celtics just for the sake of

535
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: sticking with somebody something that's recent that we all remember.

536
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: Look at that nugget Celtics game from last week on Thursday.

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00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: That game was an awesome basketball game. I guarantee you

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00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: I could find two or three thirty second stretches of

539
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: that game that look embarrassing bad, where like guy takes

540
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: a bad shot, guy other team goes over and turns

541
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Speaker 1: it over, other team dribbles to the other end and

542
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: run someone over and commits an offensive foul. You know,

543
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: every basketball game has ugly stretches in it. If you're

544
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: hunting out of an entire decade, I guarantee you you

545
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: will find some hilariously ugly stretches of basketball that to me,

546
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: like basketball is very much a read and react sport,

547
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: and so there are stretches where both teams are really

548
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 1: sharp with their reads and it can look super fluid

549
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: and both teams can look super competent. But then you

550
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: can also go through stretches where guys make a few

551
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Speaker 1: bad reads and it can look really bad pretty quickly,

552
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: or a guy that ends up in a situation where

553
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: he has to do more than his skill set's capable

554
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: of and it can look ugly. And so I don't

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Speaker 1: think that that's a really fair way to kind of

556
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: display that sort of era. But at the same time,

557
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: like I do think it's important to acknowledge that the

558
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: game is improved. I do think basketball players are better

559
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: now than they were in the nineties. I think basketball

560
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: players are better in the nineties than they were in

561
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Speaker 1: the eighties, in the seventies, and vice versa. I think

562
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Speaker 1: that this league is in perpetual improvement. I think that's

563
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: kind of the reason that explains that MJ Ben Simmons

564
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: clip where MJ's being ignored at the three point line.

565
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: What's happening there is like MJ doesn't want to take

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Speaker 1: a three because like at that point in NBA history,

567
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: you didn't take that shot very often. Like just go

568
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: to just go into your Google search bar and type

569
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: NBA league averages. Basketball Reference has a page that just

570
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: takes every single season of NBA history and just puts

571
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: team averages during that era, So like offensive raiding, defensive

572
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: or offensive rating, field goal percentage, three point percentage, volume,

573
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, right, and just go look

574
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: and how many threes are taken now compared to how

575
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: many threes were taken in the eighties and nineties. It's

576
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: not comparable. So like, yeah, like Ben Simmons getting ignored

577
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: at the three point line because he literally cannot shoot

578
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: is very different than like, like we know MJ wants

579
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: to get to the mid range and he's probably gonna

580
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: hunt that for this possession, and then if he has

581
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: to take a three at the end of the shot clock,

582
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: you will. Like that's fundamentally different. That's not something that's

583
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: just the game changing, right, And like that's the thing,

584
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: like if you watch skill players from thirty years ago,

585
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: you're right, they're not gonna have the advanced footwork and

586
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: advanced shot making as skill players from the year twenty

587
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: twenty four. Like, again, you gotta think we've all learned

588
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: from these guys. I literally watch NBA players and I'm like, oh,

589
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: that's interesting. I want to try that. That's how I

590
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: learned my step back three point shot footwork. I stole

591
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: it from James Harden. Like a lot of my dribble

592
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: combinations I stole from Luca in the sense that, like,

593
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: I've always been fan of the way he uses his

594
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: body language to get guys open, right, Like, just recently,

595
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: I've been really impressed by Shay Gillers Alexander in the

596
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: way that he ball handles in traffic, and there's some

597
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: elements to like the the real like way he sells

598
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: every single move even when he's in traffic, and just

599
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: how sharp his handle is. There's some stuff there that

600
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: I'd like to steal. And like what's happening is over

601
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: the generations, every young basketball player is stealing from the

602
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: previous generation and stealing, and like, like we're gonna have

603
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: some you know, new things that Anthony Edwards does over

604
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: the course of his career that the next great two

605
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: guard is gonna steal. But Anthony Edwards is stealing stuff

606
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: from Dwayne Wade and from Kobe Bryant and from Michael Jordan,

607
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: and it just builds on itself in perpetuity. So of

608
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: course they're getting better, which is exactly why, Like I

609
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: don't see the point in like when Lebron fans are like, oh,

610
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: MJ played against plumbers, It's like, no, MJ played against

611
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: the NBA in his era and Lebron played against the

612
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: NBA in his era, and so it's it's impossible to

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Speaker 1: compare across eras as the league has improved, as the

614
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: game has changed. So the most fair way to rate

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00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: these players, in my opinion, is to look at specifically

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Speaker 1: how they played in their era. Because as much as

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00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan had to play against the nineties NBA, Michael

618
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: Jordan didn't also didn't have the advantage that modern modern

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00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: NBA prospects to do in terms of training. We just

620
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: talked about all the footwork and moves that they can

621
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: steal from modern players, just the tools that are at

622
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: their disposal. It's a completely different universe now than it

623
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: was when j MG is coming out of college nineteen

624
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: eighty four. Guys, that's literally forty years ago. Like this

625
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: is an entire that's half a century so like, it

626
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to compare him to this era because

627
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: he just didn't play in this era. And so that's

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00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: why I kind of look at it in that sense.

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00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: But again, are the nineties as beautiful of basketball as

630
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty? No? But are they as ugly as they

631
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: can be made to appear in short, little highlight films.

632
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: Obviously not. And so I think it's more important for

633
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: us to respect each of those eras in the way

634
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: that they built on each other than to with them

635
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: down just so that we can elevate players from now

636
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: when that's not the point. We know they're better, We

637
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: know they're better now. That's just like the players in

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00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: twenty thirty four are going to be better really quickly

639
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: before we get out of here. I had a mailback

640
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: question yesterday that I wanted to kind of clarify. Someone says,

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Speaker 1: I love you bro best NBA content on YouTube, but

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Speaker 1: I've never seen someone have so many duplicate videos. It's weird.

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Speaker 1: So we kind of talked yesterday in the mail bag

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Speaker 1: about kind of modern podcasting and kind of the way

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Speaker 1: that its structured. I just wanted to explain to you

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Speaker 1: guys why we do things the way that we do

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Speaker 1: them just so that you guys know and some a

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Speaker 1: little hints that'll help you guys. Our full episodes are

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Speaker 1: always under a different thumbnail than our breakout clips. So

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Speaker 1: the full episodes, first of all, when you go to

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Speaker 1: the YouTube channel on the homepage, we just list the

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Speaker 1: full episodes, so that's where you can see everything I

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Speaker 1: recorded on that particular day. Right, and again, the thumbnails

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Speaker 1: they have that like yellow giant yellow font mixed with

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Speaker 1: the white font. I think if I remember correctly, but

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Speaker 1: there's dead giveaway. It's obvious that that's a full episode.

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Speaker 1: We do the breakout clips because of the way YouTube's

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Speaker 1: algorithm works. On YouTube, there's only so much information you

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Speaker 1: can put in a title, and there's only so much

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Speaker 1: information you can put in a thumbnail. So, for instance,

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Speaker 1: if I hit five topics and one of them is

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Speaker 1: an obscure game in terms of market size, like Thunder Pacers,

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Speaker 1: then like I, if I market the show around bigger

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Speaker 1: things that are gonna get more clicks like Lakers and whatever, Warriors, whatever,

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Speaker 1: no one's gonna click it if they're a Pacers fan.

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Speaker 1: No one's gonna click it if they are a Thunder fan. Right,

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Speaker 1: Because there's nothing that says Pacers and Thunder on it.

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Speaker 1: So our workaround for that is we will brand the

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Speaker 1: full episode around whatever the most urgent, you know, popular

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Speaker 1: topic is, but then we put out breakout clips so

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Speaker 1: that we can get out to those fans. We want

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Speaker 1: a clip that says Thunder Pacers on it. That's a repeat,

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Speaker 1: Yes it's a repeat, but the purpose it serves is

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Speaker 1: so that Thunder and Pacers fans can find it and

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Speaker 1: so that we can take advantage of the YouTube algorithm

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Speaker 1: to capitalize on that. And that's honestly, that's a piece

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Speaker 1: of advice that I would give to other people that

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Speaker 1: are trying to launch a podcast. If you sit down

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Speaker 1: with your buddy and you talk about four things, and

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Speaker 1: two of them are bigger picture things, and you broadcast

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Speaker 1: those in the main episode, do a breakout of the

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Speaker 1: other two topics so that you can have another crack

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Speaker 1: at the algorithm with a different topic. So again, we're

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Speaker 1: not doing duplicate videos to just like inundate you with videos.

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Speaker 1: The whole point is we want to make it really

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Speaker 1: easily digestible. Full episodes on the homepage. You can find

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Speaker 1: them all there. If you're looking for a specific topic.

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Speaker 1: You can find it under the videos page with all

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Speaker 1: those breakouts, but the primary purpose they serve is on

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Speaker 1: the algorithm. We want the search engine. If you just

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Speaker 1: watched Pacers a thunder last night and you want to

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Speaker 1: see a breakdown and you type in thunder, Pacers reaction

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Speaker 1: or like thunder or whatever, then that video might pop

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Speaker 1: up and we might have an opportunity to reach those people.

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Speaker 1: So that's why we do it that way, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: just by giving that quick breakdown, you guys have a

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Speaker 1: better understanding it. All right, guys, that's all I have

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Speaker 1: for today or for this part of today's show. We

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Speaker 1: will be back tonight on YouTube Live. After the final

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Speaker 1: buzzer of Lakers Kings, I'll see you guys. Then the

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Speaker 1: volume