1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always 3 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. You are hanging out with 4 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: three of three Olympians of ridiculosity, of ridiculousness. Uh, don't 5 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: think about that too much. Just say hi to our 6 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: super producer, the one and only Mr Max Williams. They 7 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: called me Ben Null. Have you ever been to the Olympics? Bro? No, 8 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: I am not um not not really a sports guy. 9 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: But I mean I do understand. I appreciate the history, 10 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the long tradition of Olympian athleticism and all of that. 11 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the old school, the o g Olympics in Greece. 12 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: That's the real stuff, you know, that's really truly like 13 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: fighting in the eyes of the gods, you know, hand 14 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: to hand combat and javelin throwing and all of the other. 15 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: The shot the discus. You know, that's the kind of 16 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: classic Olympics that I want to see. But they don't 17 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: do those anymore. Yeah, for a number of reasons. And 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: today's story. Today's story takes us right back to that 19 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: time you described. There is a an infamous Olympic victor 20 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: named a ricky On of Figalia, who was engaged in 21 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: one of those old school, pretty violent Olympic sports back 22 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: in the day and five sixty four b c E. 23 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: This guy was known for his aptitude in a sport 24 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: called paying creation kind of like the early equivalent of 25 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: M M A today, right where it's like bare knuckle 26 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: gra playing like boxing and wrestling, had violent, hate filled consummation. 27 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: And they had a kid, it would be this sport. Uh, 28 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: it translates to all of might. It's not not as 29 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: safe as as say curling, but but this is no, 30 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: definitely not but but it's super interesting. I mean spectators 31 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: for I mean essentially not that far off from like, 32 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, a gladiator type fight, except this involved no weapons. 33 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: It was hand to hand combat. No holds were barred, 34 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: right except for I think eye gauging. I think there 35 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: was like eye gouging was one step too far. Yeah. Yeah, 36 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: And this sport particular became part of the Olympics in 37 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: six b C. But we know people probably practice different 38 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: versions of this for a while beforehand. This was of 39 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: the time where there were multiple things that we would 40 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: kind of think of as pen hell Enic games in general, 41 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: and this was one of the only sports to be 42 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: included in all four festivals. There are only four sports 43 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: that were in all four of these pan healtic celebration 44 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: slash death matches, as we'll find. We know we know 45 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: about the story of Ricky On because much later in 46 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: the second and third century CE, there were some guys 47 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: who wrote about this. The story of the match. By 48 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: the time they wrote about it was probably already oral traditions, 49 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: so we know there was a bit of a game 50 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: of telephone. There might be some exaggerations here, just to 51 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: be clear. But before we get into the details of 52 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: what happened with Ricky On, what makes him so special 53 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: for our story today, maybe we talked just a little 54 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: bit more about his background. So he was like he 55 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: was like a Lebron dude. He was like a Tiger 56 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Woods or a Michael Jordan's or a Wayne grets They 57 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: get that, right, Max, Wayne Gretzky Hockey, he's the hockey guy. Yeah, yeah, 58 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky. Like he's literally the only hockey player whose 59 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: name I'm aware of, so he must be pretty good. Yeah, Ben, 60 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: you supprisingly did a good job on the one. I 61 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: am actually kind of impressed right now, very very sincere. 62 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: But but I got another one like Matt Hambleton's if 63 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: you want to do a curling one that you've already 64 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: mentioned curling. But he knows anything about Matt Hamilton's come home. 65 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: You know, I will send you a lot of documents 66 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: about Matt Hamilton's after this. I'm good. No, he is 67 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: an amazing of a person that do you want to 68 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: see next with the facts that sleep enough and he's 69 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: fallen just for you right now. Fact, oh indeed there 70 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: it is. That is the best thing ever of all time. Um, 71 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's true. This guy was a big deal. 72 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: He was He was known you know obviously throughout Greece 73 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: and beyond by the Olympics of five sixty four b c. 74 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: He was sort of a little longer in the tooth, 75 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: you know, and this was like almost like one of 76 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: those like uh you know, like like Apollo Creed, you know, 77 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: like bringing back the old timer to do a big, 78 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, comeback fight kind of situation. He was a 79 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: good bit older than many of the competitors in this 80 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: very very very brutal and no holds barred um fight 81 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: style that he was going to compete in. Also, there 82 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: was kind of like a new up and coming champion 83 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: who was sort of the favorite to like take uh 84 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: this guy's crown, to take Rickyan's crown. Yeah, exactly. And 85 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: this guy's name is lost the history, but we know 86 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: he was a bruiser for sure, so they didn't have 87 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: a ton of breaks between bouts. So at this point 88 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: in the story, Ricky Ellen is already probably pretty close 89 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: to exhausted, as you said, and only his older so 90 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: worn down he asked to use. He has to lean 91 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: on his experience to make up for what he might 92 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: have been lacking in terms of physical skills. So he's 93 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: still fighting like a wildcat, you know. And then all 94 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: of a sudden, his opponent gets him in a chokehold, 95 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: like we said, totally legal in this brutal sport, and 96 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: so Ricky On is desperate. Basically he grabs this younger 97 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: guy by one of his feet and then he wrenches 98 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: the foot and it causes an audible Yeah not no, 99 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: not a cute pop like that, not a chance, No, 100 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: it would be a horrific crunching snapping of bones. The 101 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: foot is now dangling like a floppy fish on the 102 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: end of this guy's leg, and Rikion Is is milking 103 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: it like like literally like like flipping like like grinding 104 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: it back and forth to cause this guy excruciating pain 105 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: while this guy in an attempt to you know, get 106 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: him off him, I imagine, and maybe even when about 107 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: he's like choking ri Kion out Ricky On out, throttling 108 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: him as it were, and eventually this guy does the 109 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: signal I believe in these days, it was putting one 110 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: finger up. I guess he did that with the hand 111 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: he was not throttling, and that was the signal that 112 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: he was tapping out that he was like, I'm good. 113 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: And therefore Ricky on one he was the victor. But 114 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: there's a slight complication. Yeah, he uh, he was dead. 115 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: He had died of suffocation while he was ruining this 116 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: guy's life. Right, this guy is not gonna be walking 117 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: right ever again, but he is going to be breathing, 118 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: which Rickyon was not by the time the match got 119 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: called yep so um. The research for this, we found 120 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: it referred to as likely the only time a corpse 121 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: has been declared the winner of a sport. Um. But 122 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: this just went further in kind of solidifying this dude's 123 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: legendary status. Right, nothing better than a death to to 124 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: really cement you know, someone's kind of place in the 125 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: in the stratosphere of like a sport or you know, 126 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: musical genre or film. You know, if you die at 127 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: the peak of your game like that, then you are 128 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: going to be revered. Yeah, exactly. Uh, and he went 129 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: out like a g As far as the world of 130 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: Greek athletics was concerned, they started immortalizing him in sculpture. 131 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: The whole reason we know about this story today is 132 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: because people really lionized, almost deified this match and rick 133 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: Yon's role in it, and he you know, you can 134 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: see multiple accounts of just the blow by blow of 135 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: how how gross this is. One thing we should mention 136 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: here is that ricky On was able to get ahold 137 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: of this ankle because he pretended to pass out before 138 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: he actually passed. He was like and then yeah, but 139 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: because he was trapped in that chokehold by a guy 140 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: who is very good at chokeholds, he did die of suffocation. 141 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: But you'll see other reports that say he died with 142 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: a broken neck. Uh. And this to us, I don't know. 143 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: To to us, this is pretty startling because you know, 144 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: what would happened if something like that occurred in the 145 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: world of modern sports, Like what if maybe the closest 146 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: analog might be boxing. I mean it's not perfect, but 147 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: that's a pretty close comparison. Where Like, let's say they're 148 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: two heavyweight champs, they're going for the belt and then 149 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: one of them they hit each other at the same time, right, 150 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: and one of them falls to the ground first and 151 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: passes out, but the other one gets a concussion that 152 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: results in their death, you know, or a brain bleed 153 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: like a day later. That's kind of what would happen. 154 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: Would that would that person who died, but they still 155 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: posthumously get the title. I don't know, I don't know 156 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: how that works. Yeah, I was doing some quick little 157 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: research over here, and sadly, deaths and boxing are not 158 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: as uncommon as you think. I mean, you don't see 159 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: him onlike you know, these big pay per view televised 160 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: matches stuff like that, but you know, some of the 161 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: smaller fights that are still you know, professional and stuff, 162 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: you will see boxers passed away. And most times it is, 163 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, from an injury. They occur, usually losing a 164 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: knockout or something, but there are a number of times 165 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: it's in these last minit twenty years where someone has 166 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: won the fight, usually a long heavyweight ten round fight, 167 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: and then they feel woozy after the fight, they don't 168 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: feel off the fight, and they got to hospital and 169 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: you know they unfortunately passed away afterwards. Saying yes, in 170 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: those cases they are champion. Um. Through just some very 171 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: quick research I've down though, I haven't found any example 172 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: of someone winning the fight in the ring and dying 173 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: in the ring, similar like how a raichion on his fight. 174 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think for everyone, I hope 175 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: not to ever see that myself. Yeah, so we again 176 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: we know that there are a couple of different guesses 177 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: because again, like I said, there's this game and telephone. 178 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: You'll see some sources say diet is of asphyxiation, which 179 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: is one of the generally accepted explanations. But then you'll 180 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: see other people who are kind of contemporary. These claims 181 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: are kind of contemporary with each other, meaning that they 182 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: occur at the same period in time. Other people will say, no, 183 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: he had a broken neck, and then someone else will 184 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: say no, if you really look at it, he had 185 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: a heart attack. But either way, uh, he died known 186 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: as a champion. He probably died a few moments before 187 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: the fight was called, but technically to history he is 188 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: an Olympic champion and Nolan. The course of our research 189 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: we found some direct quotes describing this, like there's one 190 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: from pause and Aus, who was a Greek geographer in 191 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: second century CE. And I think this would be an 192 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: excellent opportunity for a dramatic reading. What do you say, 193 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: bro oh man, You know I'm a big fan of 194 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: dramatic reading. Any chance we get for when he was 195 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: contending with a wild olive with the last remaining competitor, 196 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: whoever he was, the latter got a grip first and 197 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: held araki On, hugging him with his legs and at 198 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: the same time he squeezed his neck with his hands. 199 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: Araki On dislocated his opponent's toe, but expired owing to suffocation. 200 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: But he who suffocated Arecio, was forced to give in 201 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: at the same time because of the pain in his toe. 202 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: The Elians crowned and proclaimed victor the course of Arakia. 203 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: It's so weird because now it's just the toe, but 204 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: we're pretty sure it was the ankle. I think there's 205 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: another guy about a hundred years later, Uh, Philostratus, who 206 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: tells a similar story, and he says, raid the Pancatas, 207 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: who had already won two Olympic Games and after this 208 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: fault in the third Olympiad in the finals, already thought 209 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: about submitting. His trainer Rixius brought him to despise death 210 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: by shouting from outside the ring, what a wonderful funeral's feature? 211 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: One can say. He did not give up at Olympia. 212 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: So he's also saying like his trainer told him to die. Yeah, 213 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: that's kind of weird. You think he would. You would 214 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: want him to live and persevere. So let's talk a 215 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: little bit more about this bizarro sport called pancreasion again. 216 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: You described the Greek translation as being all of might uh, 217 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: and that kind of translates to no holds barred in order, like, 218 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: in other words, you get to use everything you got. 219 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, weren't these done in the nude? 220 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: At least that's what all of the pottery and and 221 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: fresco type type paintings and demonstrate. Well, they definitely weren't 222 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: wearing like full regular street gear just because you know 223 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: the opportunities that would provide for grappling or for asphyxiating someone. 224 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: You know, uh yeah, it would be a very surprisingly 225 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: violent thing for a modern sports enthusiasts to watch today. 226 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: And I think you're spot on with that, m M. 227 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: A comparison, we mentioned the four pen Hellenic festivals, we 228 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: should name them. Those were the ancient Olympic Games, the 229 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: Mean Games, the Pythian Games. In the Nemean Games, again 230 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: almost like no safety restrictions. People weren't really talking about 231 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: the idea of concussions or like no below the waist blows. 232 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: It was kind of everything goes except as you pointed out, 233 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: eye gouging. So you might have like, if you had 234 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: been a veteran of a conflict, you would compare this 235 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: a lot to hand to hand combat in war. It 236 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: was considered by far the most dangerous of the three 237 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: combat sports. And you know, oddly enough, it continued after 238 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: Rikyon died. It was still in the festival. I's see, 239 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: we said it was introduced in six b C, right, 240 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: and then we see this infamous fatal match. It might 241 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: surprise you then, to no ridiculous historians that pancreaton continued 242 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: an official part of the Olympics until three CE. So 243 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: for hundreds of years. It was as as ruthless as 244 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: it sounds, This death was actually probably great, great pr 245 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: for the sport. People started to be thought of as 246 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: like incredibly brave and courageous and just real hard cases 247 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: for participating. It only ended, as a matter of fact, 248 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: because of an emperor's decree. Theodosius the First said okay, 249 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: we we gotta stop doing this. And even weirder, I 250 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: don't know if you clocked this knoll, But after he 251 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:45,359 Speaker 1: says that decree, after he sorry, after he announces that proclamation, 252 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: or what have you, all of the festivals slowly started 253 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: to die out. They got less and less popular for 254 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: a number of factors. But I would argue one of 255 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: those factors leading to their decline was that people knew 256 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: that they probably wouldn't see someone die, and so they're like, 257 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I I can spend money on 258 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: something else. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like you know, 259 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Roman bread and circuses type vibes. I mean, it wasn't like, 260 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, people were being thrown into the fighting pit 261 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: against opponents who were far overpowered in terms of like 262 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: armor and weaponry and all that this was, and even 263 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 1: playing field for all intents and purposes, even though it 264 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: was brutal and often could result in in a death. 265 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, it was not necessarily required for it to 266 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: be a fight to the death, but it was certainly 267 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: on the table, and it actually is kind of back 268 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: in a weird way. There is a modern movement that 269 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: has created kind of a small revival of the sport, 270 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: but it is a bit more regulated and less violent. 271 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: We talked to about how there would be like a 272 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: referee that would like hit them with a whip if 273 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: they got they got a little too saucy. We totally, 274 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: we totally totally should because we we let's talk about 275 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: some of the ins and outs. Okay, tell us about 276 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: the ref It's great, Yeah, that was pretty much it 277 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: was like a ref but instead of like in boxing, 278 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: it will separate them. You know, this guy literally was 279 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: armed with some sort of like braided you know, Cata 280 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: nine Tales type situation and could absolutely use it when 281 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: needed if people were getting a little two eye gauge 282 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: or something. But again, is there really no holds barred? 283 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: Besides that, it probably didn't happen too too much because 284 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: it was everything was pretty much fair game, right Yeah, yeah, 285 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: So your three ways of winning our First, you're supposed 286 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: to aim to force your opponent into submission, and then 287 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: they'll raise the index finger, you know, like someone who's 288 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: walking in church late. Or you could knock them out, 289 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: or you could kill them. All three of those situations 290 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: counted as a win. Like you said, the last two 291 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: are not as common. And then there was no time limit, 292 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: no pausing to collect yourself, and the only other way 293 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: out would be for a judge to call the match. 294 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: Think about this, they're like reading the room of the 295 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: audience and if they think it's going on too long, 296 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: then they'll just choose a winner, or they would declare 297 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: a tie, which no one really wanted, and they would 298 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: call the fight. Oh we should also mention you're not 299 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: allowed to bite people. That was seen as uncivilized. What 300 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: about scratching? Scratching's fine, scratch, He's fine, not in the eyes, 301 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: but like maybe in the nose. Could you do that 302 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 1: movie like remember and have you seen The Lady Killers? Uh, 303 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: it's sort of a minor Coen Brothers movie where Tom 304 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: Hanks plays this like kind of Colonel Sanders character. There's 305 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: a scene where like one of the dudes and his 306 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: crews like a kung fu master like sticks his fingers 307 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: up this dude's nose and like, you know, basically has 308 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: him under his control. And the guy's like, get your 309 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: fingers out my man's nose. Always remember that, lie. I 310 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: don't remember much else about the movie except where he 311 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: talks about the the instrument called the sack butt, which 312 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: is like a believe is an ancient version of like 313 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: a loot. You'd think it would be like a bassoon 314 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: or a wind instrument, but I believe the but was 315 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: more of a string instrument for some reason. That makes 316 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: me think of bagpipes. But I guess I'm just I'm 317 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: just going off the sack idea, you know, or the 318 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: butt idea. No, I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It was brass. 319 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: It's like more like a trombone, and the sack butt 320 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: was a Renaissance and Baroque ere at trombone. My back. 321 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: There you go, There you go. And Tom Hanks's character 322 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: in there Is is pretty fascinating to me. I love 323 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: the voice. Yeah, he's funny. So where does this? Where 324 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: does U sleeve us? Well? History is a conversation, but 325 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: it's also a study of precedent and a lot of 326 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: experts trace the emergence of mixed martial arts to a 327 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: that revival of this style in nineteen six nine. We 328 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: know that this continues, right, We know people are fascinated 329 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: by the idea of one on one combat, even with 330 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: rules or even with fewer rules. One thing that really 331 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: stood out to me and our research here and and 332 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: this is this is a bit of a shorter episode 333 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: for us, but we we really hope that you're enjoying 334 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: this strange explanation because this was all news to us. 335 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: There are multiple athletes who have died in the course 336 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: of the Olympics, and some of them are a little 337 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: more recent than you might imagine. There's an excellent list 338 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: of this on grunge dot com by Deborah Kelly, which 339 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: lists people who let me see, I'm trying to remember. 340 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: The most recent one may have been bombing Goldbar Nizad 341 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: in UH nineteen in actually in the Paralympics. He's the 342 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: first athlete to die in the Paralympics in a bicycle crash. Yeah, 343 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: we have actually a pretty sad and heartbreaking one from 344 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: Vancouver Olympics. Uh. Big fans of Olympics will probably remember 345 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: this one. There was a losure from the country to Georgia. 346 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: Name is not kmart Saville. I think I'm staying the 347 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: last name right, Apologies if I push it a little bit. 348 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: He was competing the log It was during the training runs, 349 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: like before they start the whole like qualifying metal rounds 350 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: for that everyone kind of it's a few runs on 351 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: the track to get practiced in. So it's the right 352 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: beginning of the Olympics, maybe even like before all the 353 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: big extivities happened and an accident happened and he was 354 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: going like seven miles an hour, hit a metal pole 355 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately and died shortly afterwards, which it was it was shocking. 356 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: It's like, whoa, somebody dying at the Olympics. It's like, 357 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: that's not supposed to happen. Um. And then there's been 358 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: a lot of this kind of conspiracy about it all. 359 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the IOC people in charge Olympics immediately said, oh, 360 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: well that's the lose federations, charges on the lose federations, 361 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: like well the tracks, fine, Um, he just wasn't good 362 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: enough loser, which is like so tone deaf and so bad. 363 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they rightfully have been just run to the 364 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: mud on this but I mean it's still I don't 365 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: know what type of resolution was. It's like, yeah, he 366 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: wasn't like one of the top losers in the world. 367 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: But like, I think, if someone's competing in the Olympics, 368 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: the tracks should be safe enough for everyone. But I 369 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: don't know. It's to end on kind of a more 370 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: positive note. I guess his um these previous Olympics, the 371 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: Beijing Olympics, his cousins Sata actually competing in the loose, 372 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: so that that's cool right there, and lose is so dangerous. Man. 373 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: It looks fun, but it's like it's like going down 374 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: a water slide where you're just constantly picking up speed 375 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: and the only way you have to steer is by 376 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: like kind of leaning slightly in one direction or another. 377 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I always always picture they're just gonna go 378 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: up the sides, you know, and then just like fly 379 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: out into oblivion, which I bet has happened to time 380 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: or two. How did these guy die? So he went 381 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: high up on the wall, thought they had built the 382 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: wall up high enough that like, oh, no one will 383 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: get up this high, and he turns out he did, 384 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: which is you know, heartbreaking, but yeah, yeah, scary sport 385 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: they also have the one word, two of them right 386 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: on the loose together. Is that is that called the 387 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: tandem louge? What what's the name for that? Uh? Double luge? 388 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: I think no offense. But I'm literally not close with 389 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: any living person, not close enough to do that. You know, 390 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: if I go down, I'm just going down by myself. 391 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: Would you guys be down to do like a four 392 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: person Bob's led with us, so it's like Ben, no, 393 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: Max and I don't know, sounds good. Strickland can be 394 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: in the front. You can lead with his shiny bald head. 395 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: We'll do a cool running thing. I would love that. Yeah. 396 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: Or if you are illusion enthusiast ridiculous historian, let us 397 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: know who you think our fourth person would be. I'm 398 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: okay with I think no. We want to figure out 399 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: what the respective roles of the four person team are 400 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: man the bagman, gotcha? Gotcha? As ever? Uh? And I 401 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: just want to I want to make sure before we 402 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: volunteer Strickler for this that he is uh, he is 403 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: on board, or that we have some kind of like 404 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: blackmail on him that makes it impossible for him to refuse. 405 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: I've been holding onto some Yeah, I haven't. I haven't 406 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: played all my cards yet with the quister. Let me 407 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: tell you, I got some serious. Oh, I got some juicy, 408 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: some dirty juice, all right. Well, that dirt will get 409 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: us into our own cool runnings vibe. I love it. Uh. 410 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: This is the story of This is the story of 411 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: one of the very first people to die in the 412 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: course of the Olympics. As we said, it's not the 413 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: only story, but for some people, this is a very 414 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: inspirational story. It's a story of the absolute commitment to 415 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: competition and victory at any price. The question is what 416 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: price would you pay for victory? And that's that's a 417 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: question that people have to answer on their own. In 418 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: the meantime, we're going to call it a day. 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I know, 453 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to layer the sound of human digs 454 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: that stuff, but I mean there's a lot I can 455 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: tell you guys about curling if you want to hear 456 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: it right now. No, no, well, we'll do an episode. 457 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: Maybe we will. We'll do an episode right now. It'll 458 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: be the snooziest ridiculous history episode that ever did exist, 459 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: or the most downloaded one. Possibly. Let's make bets. We'll 460 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: see you next time. Books. For more podcasts from my 461 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, 462 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.