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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. Mark VanderMeer and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you. No General, No John McClain tonight. I know,

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Speaker 1: it's strange. It's like having an eclipse or something, because

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Speaker 1: it's so rare that we don't have him on on

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Speaker 1: a Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: He's out and about doing.

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Speaker 1: Doing some footage for a documentary with Jimmy Johnson down

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Speaker 1: in the Keys.

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna be good, can't Well. Sometime yesterday afternoon

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Speaker 2: we just got this, I would say, not random text,

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Speaker 2: but we just got a text and just had a picture. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it was The General with Jimmy Johnson and then a

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Speaker 2: few other obviously Lynch documentary Coharts in that right picture

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: So very cool, very cool. Indeed, all right, speaking of

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Speaker 1: very cool, it's cool when a relatively decent sized story

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Speaker 1: on your football team is Battle of the long Snappers,

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Speaker 1: because yes, that's right. There's a competition to see who

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Speaker 1: gets to replace John Weeks.

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Speaker 2: And we'll let both guys on.

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Speaker 1: The show a little bit later on, also in the

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Speaker 1: Lab Weekly podcast, Drew Doherty, John Harris, and it's about

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt who was at practice, and we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that a little bit here the opening segment perhaps, and

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Speaker 1: I know the big story broke this morning about Jimmy Ward,

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Speaker 1: but not much to say about that. Obviously, the Texans

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Speaker 1: are aware of it and we'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 1: And our prayers are with everybody involved with that story,

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Speaker 1: so hoping for some resolution there. Anyway, Let's get to

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Speaker 1: it here, Johnny, because OTA's Mini camp, it's all over.

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Speaker 2: It's all over.

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Speaker 1: A team out to get together today and they break

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Speaker 1: for the big gap between mini camp and training camp,

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Speaker 1: and here we go. You and I are going to

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Speaker 1: be out it every night every night, six o'clock Texans Radio,

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Speaker 1: and we've got so many interviews with Texans players that

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Speaker 1: you're going to be hearing over the next few weeks.

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna be cool.

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Speaker 1: Plus tomorrow night, Glenn Davis, I'm gonna hear some soccer

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Speaker 1: stuff because July sixth will be Gold Cup Final at

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Speaker 1: NRG Stadium, first time ever the final, So we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Glead about that and about other soccer things, the

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Speaker 1: other kind of football. Very interesting stuff always with Glamb.

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Speaker 1: But a day after Mini camp, here we go into

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Speaker 1: the break.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely had the family barbecue today and then it's off

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Speaker 2: into the nether world wherever they're gonna go. We talked

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Speaker 2: to Honey Interviews, You do forty forty. When we asked

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Speaker 2: word break, and it's funny because it's really not a

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Speaker 2: not a break for us. I was actually walking back

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Speaker 2: from practice one day during Ota Is I think, and

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Speaker 2: Nick Cassario walked up next to me and said, so,

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Speaker 2: we're doing We're twenty four to seven three sixty five.

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Speaker 2: I said. The only time that we go off the

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Speaker 2: season and the end of season in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: then after that, and I said, so when you start

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Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowls, we will be twenty four to

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Speaker 2: seven three sixty five, right, And we want it to

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Speaker 2: But I said that's only break, and he goes, God

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Speaker 2: the time. But when we mentioned that to the guys

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Speaker 2: ready to pay the price. It's going to be hell

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Speaker 2: You walk out in ninety four degree weather and it

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Speaker 2: They've been well counseled on. You don't show up out

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Speaker 2: have a record number of guys hanging around during the break.

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Speaker 1: They'll take a vacation maybe exactly, but they're gonna come back.

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Speaker 1: want help, right, and those guys. We've always said this

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: You know the trainers obviously, if you're in a rehab situation,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be the strength and conditioning people that

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of time with them. And you're working

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Speaker 1: the Neil Hunter saying yeah, I added five pounds of muscles.

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Speaker 1: That's like, I mean, yes, muscles on muscle Johnny, because

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Speaker 1: It's almost like he could take a little weight off

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Speaker 2: I mean, just to watch him he's tall, yeah, just

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Speaker 2: in studio and we were we were we were discussing

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Speaker 2: And I always love fighting him in the locker room

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Speaker 2: you said it, bubble wrap them. Let's go rid of them.

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Speaker 2: We don't.

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Speaker 1: We don't need those guys around here until September.

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Speaker 2: We do LA.

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Speaker 1: Just be ready, be ready for LA. You gotta do,

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how these guys stay in shape. The

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Speaker 1: I think maybe the off season conditioning program starts three

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Speaker 1: I don't know this for a fact, but I'll bet

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Speaker 1: some of the coaches in front office people won't like

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Speaker 1: Right, some headlines from around the NFL because we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have the in the lab conversation about Watt coming up

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have the long snappers coming up here, and

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Speaker 1: in no particular order of importance here, but Jacksonville obviously

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Speaker 1: on the practice field this week, as well as every

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Speaker 1: Ryan's general soreness as opposed to lieutenant sorenis or a

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Speaker 2: But CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud is fine and he threw yesterday in the day before.

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Speaker 1: some injury concerns and now and it was his left

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Speaker 1: But I don't like sore because they'll say sore sometimes

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Speaker 1: they meeting football people, and it could mean something a

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Speaker 2: AFC South think about AFC South offseason. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: discussed in Houston about QB one shoulder. It was discussed

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, Oh yeah, I mean definitely like thing ran

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Speaker 1: So there's yeah, I saw I'm gonna steal this from

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Speaker 1: ESPN because I saw this bigger impact for a rookie season,

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Speaker 1: cam Ward or Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Bigger impact for his team cam Ward.

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Speaker 1: He's a quarterback, so it's kind of easy that way,

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Speaker 1: all right, But let's let's get an exchange rate going

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Speaker 1: on this. How much of an impact does Travis Hunter

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Speaker 1: bring the Jacksonville Jaguars as a rookie, it's both sides

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Speaker 2: But what do you think of that? It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: interesting how much they they're gonna use him on both

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Speaker 1: We talked about leading receiver Thomas is their leading ran

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Speaker 2: So what's the stat line in a sense that Travis Hunter,

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Speaker 2: move heaven and earth to go get him at number two?

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Speaker 2: So how about DeAndre Hopkins rookie year fifty two, catches

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Speaker 2: He's got to hire the right assistant. Jackson understood, understood.

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Speaker 1: AFC South, I think it means a lot for Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: An old coach once told me that's track and field mentality,

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Speaker 2: That's what we have here. So any comparison to someone

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Speaker 1: In the crazy like, miss me with that. This guy's

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Speaker 1: We'll hear from both guys, Austin Brinkman and Tucker Addington.

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Speaker 1: They're coming up also here on Texans Radio. Back to

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Speaker 1: it here on Texans Radio. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris

436
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Speaker 1: as promised the Battle of the long Snappers.

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Speaker 2: John Weeks is a forty nine er.

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Speaker 1: Two men in OTAs in mini camp duking it out.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what they do in training camp with Austin

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Speaker 1: Brinkman and Tucker Addington. First, we will visit with Tucker

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Speaker 1: Addington out of sam Houston State University.

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Speaker 4: Eat him up, cats man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean you'll be calling his games this year,

444
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Speaker 2: but I actually call it his games. I know.

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Speaker 1: Johnny's the unofficial voice of the game.

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Speaker 2: For Sam Houston. Yeah, back when, back when you're playing

447
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Speaker 2: at sam Houston, been doing doing it for a while.

448
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Speaker 2: So yeah, glad Bearcat Orange runs deep. Yeah. I mean

449
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Speaker 2: I've got good friends that owned baseball stadiums over there,

450
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Speaker 2: so yeah, it's it's good being here, Tucker. I know

451
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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on, you know, following a guy

452
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Speaker 2: that had been here for so long in John Weeks.

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Speaker 2: That's not something you can think about on a daily

454
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Speaker 2: but there's gonna be pressure on whoever long snapper is

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Speaker 2: going forward, definitely, but there's just general pressure on a

456
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Speaker 2: long snapper anyways.

457
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Speaker 4: Nature it is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mark will call your name when you're snapping

459
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Speaker 2: the ball, but after that you don't want to hear

460
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Speaker 2: it because you could be a bad snap here there.

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Speaker 2: But that's a lot of pressure. How did you kind

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Speaker 2: of live through the years of dealing with that pressure

463
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Speaker 2: of just being that guy that man, this is my

464
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Speaker 2: one job. I gotta do it and if I don't

465
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Speaker 2: do it, well, this could this game can go sideways

466
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Speaker 2: in a hurry.

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Speaker 5: So dealing with the pressure, Yeah, I think the nature

468
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Speaker 5: posision is we kind of have one shot and we're out,

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Speaker 5: you know, and so I think take the best of

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Speaker 5: that opportunity. You know, each snap is a is a blessing,

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Speaker 5: you know. And for me, my motto is the next

472
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Speaker 5: net mentality. So you you get one shot, you go

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Speaker 5: out there, you snap, and you don't let it affect

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Speaker 5: your next one. So I think when you take it

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Speaker 5: like that, the pressure can be lightened.

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Speaker 4: Right. So yeah, snap at a time.

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Speaker 1: You were part of the I want to get this right.

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Speaker 1: The Texas Long Snapping Organization.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was actually I trained there out of

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Speaker 4: high school.

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Speaker 5: So this exists, it does snapping, or it does exist,

482
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Speaker 5: it doesn't exist. Yeah, And you know, there's a lot

483
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Speaker 5: of people wrapping it out there and at least have

484
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Speaker 5: learned something from it. And I think coach Connery has

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Speaker 5: taken the steps to lead a snapper to uh to

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Speaker 5: the next level, you know, whether that's the best high

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Speaker 5: school snapper you can be or to whatever college you

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Speaker 5: can think of. You know, I mean, the coaches are

489
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Speaker 5: looking for guys and it's becoming more and more prevalent

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Speaker 5: in terms of long snapper specific trainings and stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, I might have been one of

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Speaker 5: the last guys who had played other positions prior to

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Speaker 5: getting into long snapping, you know, like hey linebacker, Hey

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Speaker 5: can you also snap?

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Speaker 4: Kind of thing? Hey tied in? Can you also snap?

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Speaker 5: Now there's people that are committing middle school age kids

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Speaker 5: to long snapping and where and oh that y'all? Yes, yeah,

498
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Speaker 5: I mean you're you're talking about sixth graders wanting to snap,

499
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Speaker 5: you know, and maybe I mean that attests to the

500
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Speaker 5: guys who have been in the league for years John

501
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Speaker 5: Weeks being one of them. You know, uh, he's he's he's,

502
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Speaker 5: I mean him and the other people have late a

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Speaker 5: path to uh to kind of show the position position

504
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Speaker 5: as a skill, you know, a skill set and art

505
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Speaker 5: and uh, I think it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: So when did it happen for you, the turn to

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Speaker 2: long snapper or was it something that you knew all along?

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Speaker 5: So it's actually sophomore year of high school. I kind

509
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Speaker 5: of just got thrown the position. So I had a

510
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Speaker 5: coach from high school, coach Sierra. He just kind of said, hey,

511
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Speaker 5: you're snapping.

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Speaker 4: I said, all right. He said, what you didn't do

513
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Speaker 4: is before I said, no, I haven't. How do you

514
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Speaker 4: hold the ball?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: He said, oh, here you go. This is how you

517
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Speaker 4: hold it.

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Speaker 2: You learned everything on the spot.

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Speaker 5: I had never done it, and he said, man, you're

520
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Speaker 5: pretty good at it. And then I kind of started training,

521
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Speaker 5: you know, doing long doing a doing a linebacker and

522
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Speaker 5: tied end duties you know in high school and I

523
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Speaker 5: had started working at a gym and he said, hey, man,

524
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Speaker 5: I played and them I know some guys that snapped,

525
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Speaker 5: you know, in the league, are snapped in college.

526
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Speaker 4: And you can go.

527
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Speaker 5: Play college and do this really all right? So that's

528
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Speaker 5: when coach Conyrie came to the picture. He kind of

529
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Speaker 5: the strength trainer I was with all those de la Garza.

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Speaker 5: He kind of brought Conrie down to his gym and said, hey,

531
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Speaker 5: this kid's got something, you know, and snapped for him,

532
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Speaker 5: and coach kind of said, yeah, I think we can

533
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Speaker 5: work on some things and and straighten you up, you know,

534
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Speaker 5: get a little more consistent. And obviously I was young

535
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Speaker 5: at the time too, so put a little bit more

536
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Speaker 5: muscle on and stuff like that. And man, you know,

537
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Speaker 5: use your athleticism to your advantage here and try to

538
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Speaker 5: try to build something, you know.

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Speaker 2: Tucker addicton with us, what's the path? Like?

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Speaker 1: You go right to the gamblers? You out of football

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Speaker 1: for a while? How does all that work?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm out of football for a little bit.

543
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Speaker 5: I was working at rehab hospital at the time, thinking

544
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Speaker 5: about going to pet school, and I was kind of

545
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Speaker 5: an interm hey, you know, football might be the thing

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Speaker 5: that I'm interested in, you know, and had a call.

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Speaker 4: From a team to come work out.

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Speaker 5: When I was a year and a half removed, still

549
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Speaker 5: working in the hospital, were and worked out there and

550
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Speaker 5: then you know, my agent said, hey, I think you so,

551
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 5: Phil's an opportunity for you, you know, and uh, of

552
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: course Houston Gamblers. I was like a sweet you know,

553
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Speaker 5: go from Sam Houston to Houston and then now I'm here,

554
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Speaker 5: you know. So it's like a full circle moment trying

555
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Speaker 5: to stay in that Houston jeans.

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Speaker 1: But have you ever seen any old Houston Gamblers footage

557
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Speaker 1: from the eighties? Jim Kelly, I had seen some because somebody.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a little a little hype real

559
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Speaker 1: that somebody made and yeah, yeah it was. It was

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Speaker 1: a cool little thing for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So where did where'd you grow up? And how do

562
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Speaker 2: you get this? I mean, obviously long snapping get you,

563
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Speaker 2: you know, opportunities, but why was it Sam Houston that

564
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Speaker 2: you ended up siding on?

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Speaker 5: You know, It's kind of a crazy turn of events.

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Speaker 5: Coach Connery, who owns Texas long Snapping owner and founder,

567
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Speaker 5: he actually went to Sam Houston and he somehow had

568
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Speaker 5: connections still there through alumni stuff, and one of I

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Speaker 5: hadn't I hadn't been to any star ranked camps or

570
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Speaker 5: anything like that.

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Speaker 4: I'd just been training there.

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Speaker 5: And so he contacted especially his corterner at a time,

573
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Speaker 5: who you know, I don't know if he offered me

574
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Speaker 5: on the spot or like before to walk on spot

575
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Speaker 5: or how it worked out exactly, but uh yeah, at

576
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Speaker 5: the end of the time, committing there, them choosing having

577
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Speaker 5: the ability to give me some money.

578
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Speaker 4: And I'm a triplet.

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Speaker 5: My mom's a single mom, so I'm I was like, yeah,

580
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Speaker 5: i'll tick, I'll take the money.

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Speaker 2: So what are the other two guys I have?

582
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Speaker 4: I have a.

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Speaker 5: Brother and a sister, so they're still living back at home.

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Speaker 5: I'm from the Bronfles by the way, Texas, right down

585
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Speaker 5: the road, yuh and uh yeah they're still yees. So

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Speaker 5: I just kind of followed the money at the time,

587
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Speaker 5: and and you know, I built a lot of great

588
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Speaker 5: relationships there and I met a lot of great people

589
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Speaker 5: and I had I had a great career, I feel like,

590
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Speaker 5: and it's continued to go up from there.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we know you got to go, but what

592
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Speaker 1: more for you Bronfles or Fredericksburg as a destination.

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Speaker 4: I know you're gonna be there's a lot of bias here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but go for it.

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Speaker 1: Make your pitch because a lot of people are sending

596
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Speaker 1: their people set theirselves to Fredericksburg.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I mean depends on what you're into.

598
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Speaker 5: But I can tell you New Bronfles is growing rapidly

599
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: and fredericks burstall is a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I mean they both have that small town feel.

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Speaker 5: But I think Fredericksburg when you consider the amount of people,

602
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 5: it depends on how fast paced you want to be,

603
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: you know, and what you're into, water sports, water activities.

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Speaker 5: Green Hall obviously, oh yeah, I actually lived like our

605
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 5: was born and raised. The New bron FLEs lived five

606
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Speaker 5: minutes from green Hall and stuff like that. And so

607
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Speaker 5: my wife, actually she'd probably be happy to me saying this,

608
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Speaker 5: but she introduced me to all the green you know,

609
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Speaker 5: prior to that I had been I made my way

610
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Speaker 5: around it, but understanding actually that little town or history

611
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Speaker 5: in the history there and the music and stuff like that.

612
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Speaker 5: She actually got me into that when we met in

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Speaker 5: high school. So yeah, prompts to her. But I think,

614
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Speaker 5: I mean I would bias New bron Fules, but uh,

615
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Speaker 5: Frederis was a great spot as well.

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Speaker 2: So Verry Night, very politically good answer. Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: Tucker, of course, there's Tucker Addington, one of the two

618
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Speaker 1: long snappers. Duke g get out this off season to

619
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Speaker 1: replace John Wicks. The other Austin Brinkman from West Virginia.

620
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Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about yourself West Virginia. Yep,

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Speaker 1: and long snap there. I know, not all long snappers

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Speaker 1: and basically, well I should say all long snappers don't

623
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Speaker 1: start out being long snappers.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about yourself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, so thanks for having me, guys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I was at West Virginia originally from you know,

627
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Speaker 6: bel Air, Maryland.

628
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Speaker 4: You know, played for my dad in high school. Was

629
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Speaker 4: learned a lot there.

630
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there we go, played quarterback my senior year. I

631
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Speaker 6: had a lot of fun with that, punted as well,

632
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Speaker 6: and then you know, made the transition and was recruited

633
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Speaker 6: as a long snapper to West Virginia. You know, competed

634
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Speaker 6: my second year there for the job and then you know,

635
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Speaker 6: took it from there.

636
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Speaker 2: And how do they know long snap? Hey, here's a quarterback.

637
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Speaker 2: I mean it seemingly makes sense quarterbacks could be good

638
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: long snappers because all you're doing is throwing the ball.

639
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Speaker 4: Between the ball right.

640
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but no, I did the like the camp circuit

641
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Speaker 6: as a as a snapper, and then we just needed

642
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Speaker 6: a punter my senior year. So I just kind of

643
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Speaker 6: did that once the long snapping kind of you know,

644
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Speaker 6: recruitment kind of closed up and we were good to go.

645
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Speaker 2: So at what point, Austin, did you realize, yeah, I

646
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Speaker 2: can do this long snapping thing. Was it more kind

647
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Speaker 2: of your dad saying, hey, we think you can have

648
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Speaker 2: a future doing this or what we'll kind of led

649
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Speaker 2: you in that direction.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's funny you say that.

651
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Speaker 6: My dad, uh taught me in our basement when I

652
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 6: was little, because he's like, I don't know if you're

653
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 6: going to be athletic or not, so here's here's a

654
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 6: little tool that we could potentially exactly. Yeah, and then

655
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 6: know and then we needed one kind of freshman year

656
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 6: for varsity in high school. Uh, and then sophomore year

657
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 6: is when I started the camp thing and kind of realized,

658
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 6: you know, going to these camps like okay, like I

659
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 6: can compete with with these guys, and you know, the

660
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 6: more I work at it, I could potentially have a shot.

661
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: Yet you played quarterback as your high school career evolved.

662
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's either in the back of your mind,

663
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: I got this exactly.

664
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 6: Exactly, and you know that's kind of what I was

665
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 6: able to take and run with and you know, it's

666
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: got me to this point. So I think it worked

667
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 6: out pretty well.

668
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no questions, worked out pretty well. The

669
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: you know, going to West Virginia. What was that like

670
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: playing there and being a long snapper where it's one

671
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: of those things where I hate to say it this way,

672
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: but you don't really want anybody to know your name,

673
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: right because they know your name, you probably airmailed one

674
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: that stuff. Yes, yeah, you want to be a pretty

675
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: important part. You are a pretty important part of the

676
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: entire scheme of football at that university. So what was

677
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: that kind of like being West Virginia And how is that?

678
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was incredibly thankful for my time

679
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 6: at West Virginia and you know coach Brown, Coach Brown,

680
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 6: and you know, being able to work my way into

681
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 6: a leadership role on that team, you know, as a

682
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 6: long snapper was something that was big for me just

683
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 6: because I felt like as a team dynamic special teams

684
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 6: is something that I was able to represent, you know,

685
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 6: in the team room and leadership meetings and stuff like that,

686
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 6: but also have a presence on the team and on

687
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 6: the field of hey, like you know, I kind of

688
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 6: you know, I'm able to run this show.

689
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: I know where everybody's supposed to be and really help

690
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: out in that aspect.

691
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: Austin Brinkman with us long snapper for your textans. So

692
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: what are they looking for from you? It's flawless delivery, yep,

693
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: But what about getting down field, making a tackle, all

694
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: of that, because I know there are two guys here

695
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: right now.

696
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, for sure.

697
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 6: You know, like you said, it's obviously the consistency piece

698
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 6: and delivering a flawless ball, but being able to help

699
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 6: in protection and do my job on the punt team,

700
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 6: you know, take take my man, communicate with the guys

701
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 6: on the line, and you know, really be a big

702
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 6: threat in the protection game for punt.

703
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: What's it been like being in Houston? Do you have

704
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: any experience in Houston? Know anybody from Houston, any family

705
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: in Houston.

706
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: No.

707
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Speaker 6: The only time I've been down here before is when

708
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 6: we played at Houston in twenty three and my.

709
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: Game didn't go well.

710
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's talking about that's what we don't like to

711
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 6: talk about. Yeah, I figured, but no, my college roommate,

712
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 6: funny enough, he's a g A at Rice now. Uh

713
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 6: so I've been able to kind of hang out with

714
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 6: him and he showed me around the city a little

715
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 6: bit y.

716
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's been a great experience so far.

717
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: Is bel Air, Maryland in the part of Maryland that's

718
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: near West Virginia or is it east.

719
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Speaker 6: It's it's East, it is, Yeah, So it's like thirty

720
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 6: minutes north of Baltimore.

721
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So when you go to Morgantown, what is that

722
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: like for you?

723
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: Culturally? Morgantown is interesting.

724
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: I mean, they die obviously, die hard West Virginia fans,

725
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: but there's just something about the state of West Virginia.

726
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: It's just surrounded and the way they banned together for

727
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: that football team is special.

728
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that was one of the reasons I went there. Like,

729
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 6: you are playing for the state. We're the only Power

730
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 6: five program in the state, and you know, every Saturday

731
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 6: in the fall, you know, at home, our fans are

732
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 6: coming together, the state's rallying behind us, and you know,

733
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 6: we really know that we're playing for one point eight

734
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 6: million people rather than just just a small fan base.

735
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Speaker 6: So that's something that was really important for us in

736
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 6: our team.

737
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: No pro team in the state, I mean that is

738
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: like that we are the pro team. So I'm sure

739
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: you've been asked as having been a special teams member

740
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: at West Virginia University. Did you ever hear from McAfee

741
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: at all?

742
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 6: So, yeah, he was one of the like guest coaches

743
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 6: for our spring game in twenty four so we we

744
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 6: were able to talk to him, you know, as a unit,

745
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 6: get get some advice from him, and hear about some

746
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 6: of his experiences. And that was a blessing in itself,

747
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 6: just because it's somebody that's been through the system and

748
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 6: we were able to talk to him.

749
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: So that was nice, excellent. Austin, thanks a lot for

750
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: joining us. Best of luck to you.

751
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: Appreciate you.

752
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: There's Austin Brinkman, West Virginia Mountainair long snapper battling with

753
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: Tucker Addington for the job vacated by John Weeks, who's

754
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: now a San Francisco forty nine er. Coming up in

755
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: the Lab, Johnny and Drew discuss JJ Watt, among other

756
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: things here I'm Texans All Access. In our final segment

757
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: tonight on the show, Drew Jordy and Johnny Harris get

758
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: together for in the Lab. Let's get a chunk of

759
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: that podcast in here. As they talk about JJ Watt

760
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: being at mini camp.

761
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: He is going to be a color commentator along with

762
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: play by play voice Iron Eagle for CBS this year.

763
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: That's a pretty powerhouse duo, right. They're gonna be fun

764
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: to see how he does. Just like everything he's done

765
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: in his life, JJ's done it at a high level.

766
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: I expect nothing changes in this since either. But it

767
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: made me wonder, how many games do you think they'll

768
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: have that are Texans games? How many Texans games do

769
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 3: you think that duo is gonna call. I'm gonna set

770
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: the over under a three and a half. You think

771
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 3: they go more than that, you think they go less

772
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: than that?

773
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's one of the weird things about Uh.

774
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: You know, JJ's at CBS and typically and I remember

775
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: before the schedule came out, I started thinking, yeah, I

776
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: think we could get JJ for for a few games.

777
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: You know. I know the math is a little bit

778
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: different now that Fox and CBS kind of crossover a

779
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: little bit more, But it had typically been the AFC.

780
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: Texans are in, right, that would be CBS, NFC would

781
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: be Fox. Well, I just looked at the schedule. If

782
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: my math is correct, If my math is correct as

783
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 2: it sits right now, there are fifteen games, the last

784
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: two with the Chargers of the TBD Colts TBD, so

785
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: fifteen games.

786
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: I kind of get the sense that Chargers game, it's

787
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: laten see, I bet that's a primetime game. I think

788
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 3: it is primetime. It it could be like a Saturday afternoon.

789
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: That's the only one on that's exactly considered that a

790
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: prime time.

791
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: So my guess is that one will not be CBS.

792
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: My hope is that Week eighteen won't matter and that

793
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: might just be CBS to get it in at Nut

794
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: against the Colts. But there are seven games on CBS.

795
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's okay, that's I didn't do that advanced math. Yeah, yeah, tough.

796
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: So I think the number is a little bit lower, right,

797
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: But when you start looking at the games that potentially,

798
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: you know, he could do at the Colts Week thirteen,

799
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: that's a CBS game I could I could see that

800
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: and that that would be great. It's a Jaguars game

801
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: we play at home week ten. I think that that

802
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: could definitely then maybe.

803
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: Maybe Lawrence starts playing better and maybe the Hunter's excited.

804
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: You know that maybe that Jaguars game before Ravens Week five,

805
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: I could see that you know, because they're the number

806
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: two crew. You know, this was the Charles Davis Iron

807
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 2: Eagle group, and I love Charles Davis.

808
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 3: He's awesome.

809
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: I loved him, and I think he'll be great on

810
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: college football. It's gonna be weird to not hear Charles

811
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: doing games and he might just think he might do

812
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: him a different way this year. But miss Charles Davis.

813
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: But the fact that JJ's replacing him is perfect. I

814
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: think JJ and I and are gonna be fantastic. That said,

815
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: they're the number two crew, so it's gotta be a

816
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: relatively large sized game at Ravens. That could be one

817
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 2: of those that could definitely be one.

818
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: Of those Number one that could be a nance Roma one.

819
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely could so, And that's the hard part.

820
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: Like at Jaguars early in the season Titans Week four,

821
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: are those teams gonna be at a level that it's

822
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: gonna draw the number two crew in those games earlier

823
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: in the season. So yeah, I think that's gonna be

824
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: a little bit tougher. Now I'm just looking at our

825
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: schedule obviously, what impacts it. What's the rest of the

826
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: schedule for that week? You know, when we play the

827
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: Ravens in Week five. What's the rest of the NFL doing.

828
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: What else does CBS have, Because you're right, it might

829
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: be a Nance Romo game at noon. Typically they'll do

830
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: an afternoon game. My hope is there's a Chief something

831
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: game going on in the afternoon and the Chiefs will

832
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: end up, you know, getting Nance Romo and we'll get

833
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: JJ and I and for at Ravens. Maybe that's the

834
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: way to break the streak there in Baltimore, to have

835
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: JJ call in the game for us on CBS. I

836
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: don't know, there's got to be a way to break it.

837
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 2: But I'm I feel like I'm like you and Mark

838
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: and you guys are like me in a sense that

839
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: kind of intrigued by all the broadcasting stuff. You know,

840
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 2: who calls what game? How do they figure it out?

841
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: We CBS were Fox, you know what time the game is,

842
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. Like, all that stuff kind

843
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: of intrigues me. I don't know how much fans like it.

844
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 4: I think come do.

845
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: But I think it's the fact that it's ninety nine

846
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: that we're talking about. I think that matters to a

847
00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: lot of fans. In fact, he was in a bi

848
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: bilding on Wednesday. That matters to a lot of fans

849
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: no reason. I don't know who asked it, but it

850
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: was a good question. But essentially it was are you

851
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: gonna be nervous? And he said, Well, the way I

852
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: look at it is half of the people watching and

853
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: listening are gonna hate whatever I say because it's not

854
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: complimentary of their team, and the other half are gonna

855
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: like it because I'm saying good things about their team.

856
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: It's all gonna depend So he's got that's a good

857
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 3: perspective to have, you know. It's here's the other thing

858
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 3: I play. Guys don't really give a crap about your

859
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: team one way or the other. Though we like to

860
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: think they do, they don't. You know, they're pretty unbiased

861
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: for the most part.

862
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing too, People are gonna have preconceived

863
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: notions and preconceived biases of what they think JJ is

864
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: gonna be biased towards. Like, for example, if last year

865
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: JJ called a Steelers Chiefs game, well, what's everybody thinking, Well,

866
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: JJ is gonna talk about TJ and he's gonna prop

867
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: TJ up. And I listened to a good two quarters,

868
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 2: two and a half quarters that game, and he barely

869
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: mention and TJ. It came up a little bit, but

870
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: it was really I in and I think Nate Burlson

871
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: did a game that were kind of goating him into it,

872
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: and I think as he gets more comfortable with that, Yeah,

873
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: TJ's guy, and we know how much JJ loves loves TJ.

874
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: And and that's you know, I'd love that that brothers

875
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: can you know, find for each other in the way

876
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: that they do and feel for each other the way

877
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: that they do that preconceived notion. And as soon as

878
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: he says something good about TJ, oh, look at JJ,

879
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: he's a homer for TJ. Well, yeah, because he just

880
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: beat a triple team and made a sack, right, you know,

881
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: but people aren't gonna hear that. It's the same thing

882
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: with the Texans. Oh well, the Texans are his team.

883
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 2: He's definitely gonna give credit to the Texans. And I know,

884
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: we know JJ, we know that's not always gonna be

885
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: the case. JJ is gonna tell it like it is.

886
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: You know, if if guys miss the block, if CJ

887
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: misses a throw, guys miss tackles, he's gonna say it.

888
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: He's gonna call them out. But there's gonna be that

889
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: thought of, well, JJ's a textan, he's gonna be bias

890
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: towards the Texans. I mean, you fight, you find that,

891
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: you know pretty much everywhere. You know, Troy had to

892
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: deal with that Traykeman when he was calling Cowboys games

893
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: and they called a lot of them and Troy was

894
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: very fair.

895
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: But it's trade on the Cowboys. Trayman has never held back.

896
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: No, he's never held back and it but it still

897
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: took a while for fans to think, oh, Troy's gonna

898
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 2: be so biased toward the Cowboys. I think the last

899
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, last ten years, I don't think it's

900
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: been like that. I forget when I'm listening to Troy

901
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: call a game that, oh, yeah, he's former Cowboy. You know,

902
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: JJ will will have to he'll have to fight those biases.

903
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: But if he just calls the game as he sees it,

904
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: he's gonna you know it, he's gonna be fantastic. He's

905
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: got good pop culture references. He can fly off the

906
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: cuff a little bit. He'll be fun. You've interviewed him

907
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: numerous times. I have as well. He can go with

908
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: the flow on anything. But those are the things that

909
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to fight, but he can't think about

910
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: fighting them. He just has to call the game the

911
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: way he sees it and just let the rest. Let

912
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: the rest go, and let people think he's got biases.

913
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: We know he is. He loves TJ. We know that

914
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: he loves Houston, loves the Texans. But we know he's

915
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: going to do the job he's asked to do because that's.

916
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: He came on the Goat Talk with Andre Johnson and

917
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: Johnvin Joseph a couple months ago and they asked him,

918
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: They're like, who's better, You were TJ? And he said, hey,

919
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 3: career wise, you got to give TJ the nod. Yeah,

920
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: he's done it longer and more consistently than I did it.

921
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 3: But then he added the caveat. He's like, but man,

922
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 3: I'll put my four year stretch up against anybodies, including

923
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: his that twelve thirteen fourteen stretch three Players of the

924
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: Year defensively the Comet year of fourteen where he had

925
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: MVP votes. But do you fit a second to Aaron

926
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: Rodgers that year in the Yeah, And he's like, JJ

927
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: has said, Rogers deserves that MVP. He touches the ball,

928
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: it's for the quarterbacks. It's a quarterback award, but man,

929
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: he scored five touchdowns, the twenty and a half sacks, it's.

930
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: If a defensive dude was gonna win it. And on

931
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: a team that didn't make the playoffs, Yeah, that was

932
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: that was the year.

933
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: He probably needed one more touchdown the Texans to make

934
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Yep, two more, maybe break the sack record.

935
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: I think I think that would have gotten the sack.

936
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: You're a straight hand sack record, yep.

937
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean and you say it took all

938
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: of that and he pro and he probably wins. Yeah,

939
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: Yet he he was that close. He was that close.

940
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he had people's attention. It was just every

941
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: single week and fourteen watching what he was doing. And

942
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: I still my favorite moment, you know, one of his

943
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: great games. I think a lot of people forget and

944
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: got kind of brought up the other day because I

945
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: think I think Seth Payne Sean Pendergass were talking about

946
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: Sports Rato six ten. They were talking about, you know, CJ,

947
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: did you get injured in the weight rooms? Get injured

948
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 2: in the wait room? Talking about injuries in the weight room,

949
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: and when that comes up, immediately Ryan Mout pops into

950
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: my head because Ryan got injured after the Cleveland game.

951
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 2: But in that game people forget is the person who

952
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: caught Ryan malluts first touchdown pass ever was JJ Watt

953
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: at wide receiver on a fade route against former text

954
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: At Christian Kirksey, and it was just amazing. But in

955
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: that game, JJ also had packed the back fifteen yard

956
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: roughing the parner penalties and he had those he was

957
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: close to Oh, he was that close, and I know,

958
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: and you know at the time, I remember thinking, Okay, well,

959
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: that's why he was out there that day because they

960
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: they felt like he could block it, and he got

961
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 2: cold close. He just he just couldn't finish it. And

962
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: I just remember seeing him on the field and Bill

963
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: O'Brien is just steaming because its two fifteen yard penalties.

964
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: One of them led to a Browns touchdown. The Brown's

965
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: really come with the ball that day, but they got

966
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: a short field and they ended up scoring a touched

967
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: on off one of them. I think the other one,

968
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly what happened, but they didn't score

969
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: on the other one, so I was like, ah, no harm,

970
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: no foul. But he had two and JJ after the

971
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 2: second one walks over the sideline and JJ. JJ would

972
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: get tired. I always remember this. He would put his

973
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: hands on his hips and just kind of his elbows

974
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: would go out. He would kind of just stand there

975
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: and it was almost like he was looking like, you know,

976
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien, come get mad at me, like get this

977
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: out of the way or whatever. And so JJ was

978
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: over there on the sideline for like two plays. I'm

979
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: like standing ten yards away, just clear as day. And

980
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: finally I see O'Brian kind of stewing, and O'Brien walks

981
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: over and he's like good. He kind of signals JJ

982
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: goes back in there. In that game, Wat had the

983
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: catch for a touchdown. He also had four solos, an

984
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: assist for five combined tackles, a sack, three TFLs, forced

985
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: to fumble, and had a fumble recovery. And this was

986
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: the game. When we came home, we got in a flight.

987
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: For some reason. This flight took a long time. I

988
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: don't know why. And I remember I was looking at

989
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: his working out. I was riding on the way home.

990
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: It's dark, it's you know, because we played in November,

991
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 2: and I just remember thinking, you know, JJ's got a

992
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: number in almost every one of these defensive columns.

993
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: Yep, he hit the buffet, as Sean Pendergast likes to say.

994
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: And it's like I'm looking at going Jesus, he hit

995
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: everything here. You know one thing you didn't hear it

996
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: was quarterback curries. And it really got me starting thinking

997
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: about the rest of that year, like looking at the

998
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: statu sheet, how many of those columns he hit, And

999
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: it got to a point where nearly every game he

1000
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: was hitting every column with a number one. He did

1001
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: not like the pass that's that's rare. Yeah, he didn't

1002
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: have a quarterback hurry or pass defense in that game.

1003
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: Drew Doherty and John Harrison in the Lab. You can

1004
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: catch that whole podcast on YouTube and Houston Texans dot com.

1005
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: Tomorrow Glenn Davis on soccer. Another Texans interview to be

1006
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Speaker 1: featured to be named later. Stay tuned tomorrow night at

1007
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: six Area forty five coming up next. Have a great night,

1008
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: Go Texans.