1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load you. 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Michael Arry's show is on the air. 3 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: It's Charlie from BlackBerry Smoke. I can feel a good 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: one coming on. It's the Michael Berry Show. 5 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Any attempt to restrict drinking and driving here is viewed 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: by some as a downright undemocratic. Let's see if I 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: can find this audio. There was a story in the news. 8 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: This is a really, really disingenuous story about Pete hegg Seth. 9 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: And this is the kind of stuff that makes people 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: hate the quote unquote mainstream media or what Rush called. 11 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: The drive by media. Let's see if I can find this. 12 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: It was a claim that Pete hegg Seth was eaten 13 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: steak in lobster every night, and that's the way it 14 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: was pitched. Here we go. The story is that Pete 15 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Hegseth blew millions of dollars on steak and lobster. Well, actually, 16 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: the truth is that members of our military, I'm told, 17 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: have been served surf and turre, steak and lobsters for decades, 18 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: shortly before or shortly after. 19 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: A combat deployment. 20 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: You know, the Kamikazi's the Japanese government when they instituted 21 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: the Kamikazi attacks, because that man was basically committing hary carry. 22 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: He was committing suicide for his own country. 23 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: They had a. 24 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Ritual that they would go through. They would have this 25 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: prized saki that they would drink. They would there was 26 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: sort of this religious ceremony. Their family would be blessed 27 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: for many generations. They were honored like gods because they 28 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: were giving their lives. I don't think it's. 29 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: Too much. I don't think it's wasteful that before we 30 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: send our boys. 31 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: In to potentially be killed, and we have lost boys 32 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: out of this, that we feed them a fine meal. 33 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: Hell in the state of Texas, up until a few 34 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: years ago, when you were on death row, just before 35 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: they went like a capon, just before we killed you, 36 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: we'd fatten you up. You could order anything you wanted, 37 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: fried chicken, steak, ice cream, you name it. I think 38 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: we could. I think we can afford to do that 39 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: for our boys before they go into combat. I'm okay 40 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: with that, and I'm pretty strict fiscal conservative. By the way, 41 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: as libs of TikTok pointed out, twenty two million dollars 42 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: spent on steak and lobster for our troops before they 43 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: go to war or right after they get back, twenty 44 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: two million dollars compared to nine billion dollars of fraud 45 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Guess which one Democrats are mad about That 46 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: comes from libs of TikTok very well, said the Fox 47 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: eleven LA headline lobster Gate. Pete Hegseth's Pentagon faces backlash 48 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: over seven million dollars lobster spree. 49 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: That's what once. Once one news agency goes. 50 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: To print or goes on screen with it, then everybody 51 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: else nobody has any liability. They just go, oh yeah, 52 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: this is what's being reported. Military dot com reports as 53 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: a retort quote. Across branches and generations, service members have 54 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: circulated a widely recognized belief when steak and lobster appear 55 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: in the dining facility, something significant may be coming. Often 56 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: described as a surf and turf meal, The combination has 57 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: become embedded in military culture sure as a symbolic precursor 58 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: to deployments, combat operations, or extended missions. While experiences vary 59 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: by unit and theater, anecdotal accounts from service members consistently 60 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: reinforce the association between morale boosting meals and periods of 61 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: heightened operational tempo. The belief has become part of military 62 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: folklore shared in barracks conversations, deployment stories, and online veteran communities. 63 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: The persistence of this tradition reflects the broader role food 64 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: plays in deployed environments. Dining facilities frequently use special meals 65 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: to mark milestones, holidays, or moments when leadership seeks to 66 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: raise morale during demanding operational periods. Deployed dining operations have 67 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: long included occasional premium meals as a morale measure. Larger 68 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: bases and ships may serve steak or seafood during holidays, commemorations, 69 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: or after intensive mission cycles. These meals can carry emotional 70 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: and symbolic weight because they can trast sharply with routine 71 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: field rations or austere dining conditions. 72 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm not defending. 73 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: A heavy price be paid for food for our service 74 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: members wastefully, but I do believe that there is a 75 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: way to do this tastefully. Our military does waste a 76 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: lot of money. It has for decades, maybe it always has. 77 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: It's a nature of the beast. It's got a lot 78 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: of money floating around, very little oversight, they waste a 79 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: lot of money. But two things can be true at 80 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: the same time. Our military can waste a lot of money, 81 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: and they do. And yet our service members have needs 82 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: that are not being met financially, veterans health, for instance. 83 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: We've got a lot of guys suffering from PTSD. I'm 84 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: the national spokesman for a group called Camp Hope as 85 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: part of the PTSD Foundation of America. That budget is 86 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: one hundred percent entirely funded by our listeners and other people. 87 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: So these service members don't take their own lives so 88 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: that they learn the coping techniques to get through life 89 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: and become productive members of society again and live out 90 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: their lives. 91 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: Why did we have Why do we have to raise 92 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: millions of dollars a year every year to do that? 93 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: Why? Because our government doesn't take care of them. Because 94 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: our government says, here will send you to war, and 95 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: when you get home, we have no time for you. 96 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Not taking into account the mental that's serving in war. 97 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: Imposes upon a marathon that would have been marred by 98 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: an embarrassing change of policy. You know, you run over 99 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: twenty six miles twenty six point two miles for a marathon, 100 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: something I've not done. My wife has done multiple times. 101 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: I've stood on the sideline. I used to while my 102 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: wife was running. I would every three miles or so, 103 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: I would be positioned and cheer her on. It's an 104 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: impressive thing to do. It's one of those bucket list 105 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: things that a lot of people have to do, and 106 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: I'd admire you if you do do it. It's easier 107 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: said than done. It's a tough thing to do. And 108 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: you watch people, I mean, they look like they're going 109 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: to die when they cross over. It's an amazing feat. 110 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: And to do it the way the guys who win 111 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: do it at that speed for that long, to push 112 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: the body in pain in that way is really incredible. 113 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: It's just incredible. And at the Los Angeles Marathon, they 114 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: had announced I think the temperature was going to be 115 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: eighty eight degrees warmer than usual. But they decided that 116 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: if you ran eighteen miles, if you hit the eighteen 117 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: mile mark and couldn't finish, they would give you your 118 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: finish or metal or plaque or certificate or whatever it was, 119 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: so you could say you ran the marathon, which the 120 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: whole point of completing the marathon is you didn't drag 121 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: up lane at eighteen miles, you can brag that you 122 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: completed it. The whole point of being proud of an 123 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: accomplishment is having completed the accomplishment. If you don't, then 124 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: what's the point. What we see in the liberal mindset, 125 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: and yes this is the liberal mindset, is that life 126 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: is tough, so we want to make it not tough, 127 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: and so we'll make it not tough by lowering the rim, 128 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: making the ball smaller. If you can't compete in boy sports, 129 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: just claim you're a girl and go knock the snot 130 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: out of the girls and then you can win. There 131 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: are these constant efforts. Oh can't do well on the 132 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: standardized test, Well we'll put you above another kid because 133 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:20,239 Speaker 1: you check one of these boxes. Oh can't can't. 134 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: Perform in school, Well we'll just get you diagnosed. 135 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: There's a doctor on every corner that'll diagnose you with 136 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: something that'll give you every opportunity to move to the 137 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: front of the line. Well, then what happens. Companies aren't 138 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: going to move you to the front of the line. 139 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: You're not going to have all these opportunities. Companies are 140 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: going to say, I mean, we don't expect the NFL 141 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: to do that. Hey, we got this guy that wants 142 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: to play wide receiver. It's actually a woman. She wants 143 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: to play wide receiver. She runs about five eight forty, 144 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: so she's probably not going to send her deep. She 145 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: can't actually catch the ball. It messes her nails up, 146 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: so she's not gonna be your slot receiver or your 147 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: your possession receiver. She doesn't like to hit or get hit, 148 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: so she's not gonna be aild to block. Should should 149 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: you run asweep? But she really likes to play wide receiver, 150 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: and it's not fair that she hasn't had the opportunity 151 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: to play wide receiver. So we'd like to make her 152 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: the wide receiver of your Houston Texans. People would howl 153 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: at that. 154 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: Not a chance. 155 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: So if we don't allow it in sports, the result 156 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: of which don't really matter, why do we allow it 157 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: in our military? Why do we allow it in our 158 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: peace force, in our police force? Why do we allow 159 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: it anywhere? If we wouldn't allow it in the place 160 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: that matters least to whether people live or die, it 161 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. It's absurd, it's ridiculous. So 162 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: why would you say if you finish eighteen. Give him 163 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: a plaque says you finished eighteen on a warmer than 164 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: usual day. But what saved the marathon from that embarrassing 165 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: asterisk is a fellow named Nathan Martin. And if you 166 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen the photo finish, trust me, I don't send 167 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: you to look at stuff a lot. I'm not sending 168 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: you to our website. I'm just saying look it up 169 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, LA Marathon photo finish. 170 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: Meaning it comes down to the wire. This Kenyon fellow is. 171 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: Leading by a distance that there's no way he has 172 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: put quite a bit of distance. The Ethiopians and Kenyons 173 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: dominate the marathon circuit, and that is because in Ethiopia 174 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: and Kenya it is the national sport. They don't have football, baseball. 175 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: They play soccer, but they can't compete on the international scale. 176 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,479 Speaker 1: So from the earliest ages, if you show a propensity 177 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: and a skill to run marathons, you are given support, coaching, training, 178 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: and that's why Kenyans and Ethiopians dominate. So for years, 179 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: because we have a lot of Ethiopian friends, we would 180 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: go to the marathons and we had friends who knew 181 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: the people who were competing and winning, and these people. 182 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: It is their whole life. They are a professional marathon runner. 183 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: So you got one of those guys, and he is 184 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: he's about to win, and he's about to win big, 185 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: no big surprise. And the way the camera shots are 186 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: coming in, they're shooting down at him coming toward the 187 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: finish line, but from enough of an angle that you 188 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: can't see behind him. And then all of a sudden, 189 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: there is a guy who appears to be sprinting like 190 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Borat In one of his scenes, this guy seems to 191 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,479 Speaker 1: be at a dead sprint making ground. 192 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: On the Kenyan Leader. 193 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: Well, we come to find out he's an American named 194 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: Nathan Martin. I saw an interview with him after he wins, 195 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: he closes and wins. There's no way he's going to win, 196 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: but he does. He's thirty six years old, not a 197 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: young man. He's a high school cross country coach. Can 198 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: you imagine when you show up at your cross country 199 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: training this week and you tell coach, I just don't 200 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: feel like training this week. When this guy just set 201 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: the world on fire by sucking it up and winning 202 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: in this fashion, it's incredible. There was a question that 203 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: was asked by a black reporter who said guys that 204 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: look like us don't normally win the marathon. How do 205 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: you feel about that, Well, that's not true. It's only 206 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: guys who look like him. He's a black American. It's 207 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: only guys who look like white people never win the marathon. 208 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: What he was trying to say, and he's right, is 209 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: black Americans never win the marathon, and that is true. 210 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how he trained, I don't know how 211 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: he got there, but Americans just don't beat Kenyans and 212 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: Ethiopians and it's certainly not a black American who wins. 213 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem highlighting that. Hey, let's teach 214 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: young kids in the inner city who happened to be black. Hey, 215 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: here's something cool you can do, because that's a sport 216 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: for life, that's a. 217 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: Healthy training sport. Bravo for him. The America. 218 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: For the Los Angeles Marathon, as we were talking about, 219 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: and I mentioned this several times this week, but the 220 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Marathon this past weekend, I guess it us 221 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: received more media attention than marathons typically do. Believe it 222 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: or not, there's a marathon going on practically every weekend 223 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: in this country. The big ones are New York and Boston. 224 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: The LA Marathon is not as big. Houston has one, 225 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: and people come from all over the whole marathon community. 226 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: It's a whole culture. It's a big deal, and they honor. 227 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: They give all sorts of awards like a golf tournament, 228 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, longest drive, longest putt. Well they do that 229 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: with marathons. But to win the marathon as the men's 230 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: winner is a huge, huge deal. And so the guy 231 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: who won this year is a fellow named Nathan Martin. 232 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: He's a thirty six year old cross country coach. So 233 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: cross country running, which means off the track. I did 234 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: it in high school. 235 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: I wasn't great. I made the team, that was it, 236 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: and I did it to stay in shape year round. 237 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: But I wasn't good. I'm not bragging that I was good. 238 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: I just did it. 239 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: Was the time of my life where running was a 240 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: big deal, never the way it was for my wife 241 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: and supporting her. She ran marathons until finally she had 242 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: to have spine surgery because it messed her back and 243 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: her neck and on, and we finally came to the conclusion, 244 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: no more high heels for my wife and no more 245 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: marathons because. 246 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: Doctor Richard Harper. Her neurologists said, you need to stop. 247 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: You're destroying your back and your spine. 248 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: It's not good for you anyway. Marathons are not really 249 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: good for your body. Is people finish marathons and are 250 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: not healthier because of it. There can be a point 251 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: where running is part of an overall health scheme, but 252 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: marathons destroy your body, and people who are long term 253 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: marathoners end up with chronic conditions. But another subject for 254 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: another day. It's an impressive thing to do. It's really 255 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: impressive to beat the Ethiopians and Kenyons because it is 256 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: their national pride. These people have been running since they 257 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: were kids. I remember the first time we were in Ethiopia, 258 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: my wife and I walked out of what's what's called 259 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: the Sharatan, but the way we would say is Sheraton, 260 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: and it's a really nice hotel there, and we walked 261 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: out the door. We're sitting in it's early in the morning, 262 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: it's about six o'clock and we're looking up at the 263 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: mountain and there's a sidewalk in front of us, and 264 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: these guys go sprinting by like you know they've there's 265 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: just been a bank heist in the cops are chasing them, zoom, 266 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: they go by, and finally one of them pulls up 267 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: lane and he stops from and he leans over and 268 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: he's breathing, and we're like, hey, what's going on? And 269 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: he said, this is the the Ethiopian national team marathon team, 270 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: and these guys are something special. Well, the Kenyans are 271 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: also something special, and the Ethiopians and the Kenyans typically 272 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: win every marathon. So for an American to win the 273 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: marathon is already a really, really really big deal. But 274 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: if if an American is going to win the marathon, 275 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: he's going to be white, or he's going to be 276 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: called an American, but he's from Ethiopia or Kenya. He's 277 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: not going to be what people would call an African American, 278 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: a guy who's lived here, you know, his whole life 279 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: kind of deal. Except Nathan Martin is so he's being 280 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: interviewed here because this is just so how did you win? 281 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: How did this happen? And the guy who's asking him 282 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: the question is an independent journalist, as I believe, and 283 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: he's black, and he asks him a question. He says, 284 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: people that are like you and me don't win the 285 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: marathon and what's interesting about that is that's not true. 286 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: They're both black people. 287 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: That look like you and me. Those two are the 288 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: only people that win the marathon. White guys don't win 289 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: the marathon. It's just black guys. From what he's meaning 290 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: to say is American blacks don't. So listen to the discussion. 291 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: And then I want to talk about the fact of 292 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: what we encourage young people to go into as sports. Okay, 293 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: that was a longer clip then I would normally play, 294 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: but I wanted you to hear it for yourself. And 295 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: I guess my question is, what if every young black 296 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: person in America today who's at a poor performing public school, 297 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: who is not learning to read and write at level, 298 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: who's not learning to communicate in a way that would 299 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: enable you to go into a workplace, you cannot You 300 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: cannot sit idly by while young black kids in inner 301 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: city schools that are failing schools with bad teachers and 302 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: corrupt administrations, and those kids learn to speak some form 303 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: of English that is not the English that is spoken 304 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: in corporate America. And then if they ever do end 305 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: up applying for a job and don't know the patois 306 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: of the corporate culture, they don't know how to speak properly, 307 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: conjugate your beaver, put g's at the end of words, 308 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: and these sorts of things, and they don't get hired. 309 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: And you blame the corporate culture for that. That's crazy. 310 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: You don't raise some white kid in a cornfield of 311 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: Iowa and send him in to see Russell Simmons to 312 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: cut a rap album. You understand that when in Rome 313 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: do as Romans do. If we taught young black people, 314 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: because there's no parent involved to do this, there's no 315 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: school involved to do this. The church is not doing it. 316 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: If we equipped young black kids to compete in the 317 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: world in the same language, with the same cultural traits, 318 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: even if they're just borrowed, even if it's just, hey, 319 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: this is how you gotta fake it till you make it. 320 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: What kind of difference could we make? How many kids 321 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't join gangs? How many kids wouldn't feel left out 322 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: of the American dream? I don't know something about Hi, 323 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: Nathan John W. 324 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 4: Davis are with the Southern California Newsroup. Congratulations on winning 325 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 4: this marathon. As a fellow person from Michigan, I gotta 326 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 4: give you a what apdough because I'm from Detroit. Congratulations, man, 327 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 4: talk to me about you know what it took to 328 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: win this when at the end just the last dride. 329 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 330 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: So I always challenge myself to push, regardless to whatever 331 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 5: it's somebody to chase or I'm all by myself, because 332 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 5: I want to know I finished giving everything I had 333 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: because I know I can always do that. 334 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: You can't always win. 335 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 5: You can always push, and I was just super fortunate 336 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 5: that that effort get me the win today. It's a 337 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 5: good challenge to get it. 338 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 4: So how deep did you have to dig for that? Kid? 339 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: I was digging pretty deep. I was. I was in 340 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: the hurt locker for sure, but I'm used to it 341 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: and just gave it. 342 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 4: A had and you know all those good So I 343 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 4: understand you are a high school coach and now you've 344 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: won the twenty twenty sixth Los Angeles Marathon. How does 345 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: all of that come together. 346 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: In your mind? 347 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 5: It's amazing, Like you hope that you're able to pull 348 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 5: something off, like you don't. It's like one of those 349 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 5: things where like you have to believe, but you know, 350 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 5: until you manifest it, it's just kind of an idea. Yeah, 351 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 5: And so you know, it's kind of. 352 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 3: Surreal because it's like, oh wow, I die can win 353 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 3: and I did it. So yeah, it was super crazy, 354 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: but it's awesome, super happy. 355 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 4: When did you really start closing in? Because I'm standing 356 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: here at the finish line and I saw that the 357 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 4: person who finished second was leading for a really long time. 358 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: In this race. 359 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, so he kind of took off and it was 360 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 5: just a pack of like five or six of us 361 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 5: and we just started grinding together. 362 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 3: We were switching off the lead, trying to close the gap. 363 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: And around mile five. 364 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 5: I just kind of took off and nobody went with me, 365 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: and so I said, hey, after push, after fight, and 366 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: let's see what happens. 367 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: And like, I wasn't thinking at that point about winning. 368 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 5: It was just making sure I gave the effort I 369 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 5: have And yeah, around a mile was when I saw 370 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 5: I had a chance and. 371 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 4: I went forward and worked out As an African American 372 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: distance runner, Do you have a message because we don't 373 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 4: really see too many people who look like you or 374 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 4: I win marathons. 375 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 5: You know, hey, just never give up and never assume 376 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 5: what you're supposed to be good at. Always test yourself, 377 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 5: always find new opportunities, because it's not about necessarily what 378 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 5: you like to do or what feels fine. It's what 379 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 5: you're good at and what you're willing to challenge yourself 380 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 5: to achieve, and you can accomplish a lot of. 381 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: Amazing So anything else you'd like to add about this 382 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: historic moment. 383 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: It's awesome to win, it's awesome to get recognition, but 384 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 5: it's even better to push yourself and achieve whatever you do. 385 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 3: So thank you so much. 386 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: Congratulations again, you've got the Michael Berry's show. Okay, I 387 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: cannot convey to you how important the band Kiss was 388 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: to me when I was in second grade. It'd be 389 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: hard for me to explain. I had a birthday party 390 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: at the Spinning Wheels roller ring, and I my parents 391 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of money, so we didn't have big, 392 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: fancy things, but we never lacked for anything. I don't 393 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: want to I don't want to convince you that I'm 394 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: poor or any of that. My parents were not wasteful. 395 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: If we went to see a movie, we went when 396 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: it was cheap, and we ate before we went. Because 397 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: the theory was you can you can take the kids 398 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: to see a movie. Don't multiply the cost by having 399 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: to eat while you're there right. So my little birthday 400 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: party was Ben Wernig and Greg Hobbs and Toby Shultz 401 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe five or six of us at 402 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: spinning wheels and there was a little cake. Now, I mean, 403 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: I was over the moon happy my mother had done 404 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: this because I didn't. We didn't do birthday parties every year. 405 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: Just wasn't wasn't a big thing in our family. I 406 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: don't know why really, And I'm not a big birthday 407 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: party guy. 408 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: It's odd. 409 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: I had my fifty fifth of November and I ended 410 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: up not doing it anything around it when everybody said, oh, 411 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: you got to do it, and I just, I don't know, 412 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm not whatever, just not a big birthday party. Got so. 413 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: But the big thing for my birthday. 414 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 4: Was that. 415 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: My mom said I was having surgery. I was having 416 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: tubes put in my ears for drainage. I still have 417 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: you can hear my voice, still have sinus problems, not 418 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: like I used to. And my mom said that if 419 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: I didn't cry when they gave me the shot to 420 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: put me under, that I could get what I most 421 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: wanted in life, which was the kiss belt buckle. It 422 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: just had kiss in their font with a reddish blue 423 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: as you moved it, it would move a little bit. 424 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: Well, I did cry just soon. I did cry at 425 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: the shot, but I still got my gift. And so 426 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: here we were. 427 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: I had my kiss belt buckle, and I was so excited. 428 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: And then as time went on, I kind of moved 429 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: away from Kiss and I didn't listen. But it still 430 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: makes me happy to hear. And they're probably a fair number. 431 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: You may be a huge Kiss fan. And Gene Simmons, 432 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: all these years later, who Trump likes, and I think 433 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: he loves Trump best I can tell, was in the news, 434 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: and he was in the news this week because Ben 435 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: Steeler was in the news. And Trump's got some of 436 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: these old relationships, you know, Herschel Walker and Jesse Jackson 437 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 1: and Mike Tyson and different people going back that are 438 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: always surprising to people. Trump made friends with a lot 439 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: of interesting people. 440 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 3: You know. 441 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: Many times people will say, I can't believe your friends 442 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: was so and so because he's a rapper or he's this, 443 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: or if somebody is my friend, they are my friend. 444 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't agree with their politics, and I will say so. 445 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: I will not defend them saying something stupid, but if 446 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: they were my friend, I don't just cut my friends off, 447 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: and Trump's. 448 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: The same way. 449 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: Well, Gene Simmons forward and he said, look, when Ben 450 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: Stiller started saying some really really dumb stuff, of course, 451 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: you know these people they don't know what they don't know. 452 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: They think that because you know, people like them as 453 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: an actor, that people want their opinion on things, and 454 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: then they end up making their audience mad and they 455 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: don't even understand why they've done it, and they think 456 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: they're so bold for doing it. It's just dumb, but 457 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: they didn't need to do it. Nobody's listening to their 458 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: opinion anybody. Nobody's saying hey, we should change our policy 459 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: on this or that because of that famous part. Nobody 460 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: is doing that, nobody. So anyway, Gene Simmons came forward 461 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: and said, look, these celebrities need to shut the f up. 462 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: He was on TMZ when he said that, and here's 463 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: what he said. 464 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: I know, right now Ben. 465 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 4: Stiller is calling out the president saying he doesn't want 466 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 4: him to use his movie clips for war propaganda. 467 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like a lot of people are 468 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: kind of you know, criticizing Trump Hollywood. 469 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 2: Right now, you know, over this more thing. 470 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because everybody in the world should listen to 471 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 6: what actors and comedians say because they're so qualified. Basically, 472 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 6: shut the out, do your art, and shut up. Nobody's 473 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 6: interested in their opinions. That includes me, who I vote for, 474 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 6: who I like? Who do you think you are? People 475 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 6: in America work hard for their living and they don't 476 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 6: want to be lectured to by people who live in 477 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 6: mansions and drive rolls. Royces. 478 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: It's time for. 479 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 6: Everybody in the entertainment and to shut their pie hole 480 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 6: and just do your art. Nobody cares what you think. 481 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 6: I don't what will Mark Ruffalow pronounces this Ruffalo buffalo? 482 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 6: What does Mark think about politics? I don't care. 483 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: So you think celebrity should stay out of the politics talk. 484 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 6: Well we both agree, okay, I know. Or go to 485 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 6: Kylie and I ask you what you thinks of the 486 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 6: war so far. 487 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: So I don't want to do my celebrity their celebrity competition. 488 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: I think what Gene Simmons says that the most important 489 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: part of what he says there is that what Ben 490 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: Stiller or Mark Ruffalo or anyone else says shouldn't matter. 491 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: And he says or what I say, And I think 492 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: that's an important point, what these people think about politics 493 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't matter anymore than what you say, right, It shouldn't 494 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: matter any less. It shouldn't matter anymore. But here's the question, 495 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: why does it matter? Because it does matter in some 496 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: way or another. It's a conversation piece. It matters because 497 00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: the media is bored and they know that famous people 498 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: generate more cliques. They don't. They're not as obsessed with 499 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: what the person says is who the person is. When 500 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: your CBS News or ABC or NBC you are or 501 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: seeing in, you are desperate for clicks, and if you 502 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: just deliver. 503 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 2: The news, you ain't getting the clicks. 504 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Even if people are telling you they hate what Ben 505 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: Steeller has said, they will still click to go there. 506 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: But they don't ask Ben Stiller which heart procedure is 507 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: best for a patient with ninety percent blockage, because everyone recognizes, oh, 508 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't care what he thinks about that. 509 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: He don't know anything about it. He tell us don't 510 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: know anything about politics. 511 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: So if you respond to that by saying, well, I 512 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: like my celebrity, I don't care. 513 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: What any of the celebrities think, any of them, because. 514 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they know anything about anything anymore than 515 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: they know about open heart surgery, or how to take 516 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: apart an engine, or much of anything else. The scary 517 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: thing is, how did it get. 518 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: To this point? 519 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: People fell in love with celebrity and believe that these 520 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: people can do everything. I don't care who they're sleeping with. 521 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: And a sun of me is a gentleman. Ellus has 522 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: left their killing a thank you and good night.