Speaker 1: On today's episode of the Command Center podcast, Who's got
Speaker 1: it better than Us? No Nobody?
Speaker 2: And we got some Jaden Mania, and.
Speaker 1: We preview the Cleveland Browns with Santanamos's favorite segment, Hell
Speaker 1: Yeah or hell No. It all starts right now. Welcome
Speaker 1: to Look a Man Center Podcast. I'm Logan pauls in
Speaker 1: here with Fred Smooth and Santanamos and guys, who's got
Speaker 1: it better than us? No mine, nobody. Man, we got
Speaker 1: some really exciting things happening on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the football, specifically regarding jayde Daniels, and I think fans
Speaker 1: are excited, and should they be excited.
Speaker 2: Everybody's excited. Come on, we haven't been here.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 3: We haven't been here, like the fan base is. Should
Speaker 3: be beyond excited. But just do my radio show and
Speaker 3: talking back and forth with the fans, it's like they
Speaker 3: scared to celebrate twnent. They scared to say, you know what,
Speaker 3: we here, we have arrived.
Speaker 4: I think we have a reason to kind of pump
Speaker 4: our brakes that time because we we are players. We
Speaker 4: understand that it's a long season. This is the first quarter.
Speaker 4: We want to be five hundred or better in the
Speaker 4: first quarter, but we understand there's other quarters we have
Speaker 4: to go through.
Speaker 5: And when I say.
Speaker 4: Quarters, you know, as football players, we understand if you
Speaker 4: understand we have sixteen seventeen when we played it with
Speaker 4: sixteen and it was four four quarters, So you know,
Speaker 4: we look at it like that and say, man, look,
Speaker 4: I was we were talking about this when we first
Speaker 4: got our schedule. Hopefully we're two and two or three
Speaker 4: and one going out of those first four games.
Speaker 5: We're here, we arrived. Have we been excited from the play?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: How many reasons to say, Man, these guys are going
Speaker 4: out there playing it kind of football that we expected.
Speaker 5: But it's a long season.
Speaker 4: Long season allowed them to continue to you know, get
Speaker 4: you know, I guess you can say to what these
Speaker 4: coaches are trying to teach them. And then by the
Speaker 4: time we could past eight games and we're still sitting
Speaker 4: pretty hey boy, stop playing playing in that postseason, all
Speaker 4: your flights and taking off from your job up and
Speaker 4: taking he's out of school. Then we can start, you know,
Speaker 4: talking about that. But I think they have a reason
Speaker 4: to be excited. But as players, we're going to always
Speaker 4: sit here and say, hey, you know what, we're happy
Speaker 4: but we're not going to get too far ahead of ourself.
Speaker 2: Do you think we have a leg up right now?
Speaker 3: Because of what I say, like months ago, the unpredictability
Speaker 3: of the offensive play calling, new coach, new offensive coordinator,
Speaker 3: don't really got to beat on what we want to
Speaker 3: do and how we want to do it.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's giving us a leg up?
Speaker 4: I think it gives you. It gives anybody a leg up.
Speaker 4: But you still got to go out there and play ball,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You still have to look
Speaker 4: you We've seen plenty of new staffs get together and
Speaker 4: it don't look like this, you know, And I think
Speaker 4: when you look at it, it's a lot of stuff
Speaker 4: going for us. I think won the culture. I think
Speaker 4: the culture has been set. You can see how they
Speaker 4: how they play, they play, how our coach speaks, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. One of the things about dan
Speaker 4: Quinn I loved all the years of playing against him
Speaker 4: and watching them is you know, they move to his beat,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. The way he came in
Speaker 4: here and said the kind of players he want. I
Speaker 4: can look at player I go down the line and say, yep,
Speaker 4: that's the damn dan Quinn player. Look, we have we
Speaker 4: have guys here that we wanted to be a Ryan.
Speaker 4: Still they're not here. They're still good players, they're just
Speaker 4: not their players. So the culture stands out more than
Speaker 4: just it's new and people can't get a you know,
Speaker 4: but a beat on it.
Speaker 5: But I feel like also being being that.
Speaker 4: Some of the times when you have a new offense
Speaker 4: and you have young guys, because we've been here with
Speaker 4: you know, with this same type of you know far
Speaker 4: as you know offense and a new start at quarterback,
Speaker 4: you know, you have to give him time to really
Speaker 4: say is this a first year you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like you know flue or is there going to be
Speaker 4: something that you can I look at it as man,
Speaker 4: he's a young guy, and I see every game so
Speaker 4: far that I watched him play, he's gotten better from
Speaker 4: something that you know, that he made a mistake on.
Speaker 4: To me, I don't think none of this stuff is
Speaker 4: a flu I think he's he's a kid that's been
Speaker 4: well groomed in this game and he's ready to play
Speaker 4: football and he's showing it every week.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing I keep coming back to with this
Speaker 1: is like he's had he has the highest completion percentage
Speaker 1: in a four game span. Ever. Ever, so like you're
Speaker 1: talking Jane Daniels is what is He's eighty two point
Speaker 1: one right, number two, Peyton Manning eighty one point eight,
Speaker 1: number three, Drew Brees, number four, Tom Brady, number five,
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. Those dudes are goat meal. They're all in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Would you call him? You called
Speaker 1: him the yellow Jacket, Yeah, the yellow Jacket, the Yellow
Speaker 1: Jacket crew man, Like they are impressive. So for me,
Speaker 1: it's like I keep coming back, like I'm excited. Jane
Speaker 1: Daniels is playing excellent football. It's like, can you sustain
Speaker 1: that level of efficiency? It seems like it's going to
Speaker 1: normalize at some point. Yeah, but like to what Tanna said,
Speaker 1: like he's getting better at like managing the game, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think when you look at the Arizona
Speaker 1: game specifically, like even if his efficiency comes down a
Speaker 1: little bit, which I'm expecting it to, Like I think
Speaker 1: the types of throws we've seen, like that out to
Speaker 1: Terry where he's kind of laying it over that hook
Speaker 1: player in front of that cover three corner, Like that's
Speaker 1: a big time throw. The throw to Luke McCaffrey where
Speaker 1: he's like ripping it in there right, the throw, the
Speaker 1: terror of the touchdown. Those are throws we haven't seen before.
Speaker 1: And it makes me think he's improving, even if his
Speaker 1: efficiency comes down, you know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 1: something like I'm excited. I think he's I think he's
Speaker 1: got it, but like I don't know, Man, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things, like.
Speaker 3: He does the regular things at a high clip, right,
Speaker 3: the medium things, the things that everybody can't see, Like
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams right now is not feel in the pocket
Speaker 3: the way it is, and he's not doing the regular
Speaker 3: things at a high level. Like I'm not saying these
Speaker 3: guys just all his special throws are special, but I'm saying,
Speaker 3: be special on routine things. And that's what I think
Speaker 3: he is doing. So I think sky's the limit because
Speaker 3: he does does them things that's such a high clip,
Speaker 3: they will always be available for him.
Speaker 5: And then you have great coaching.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, we we can sit here and
Speaker 4: rant and rave about you know, how special Jaden is,
Speaker 4: how specially our offensive line have been playing, but all
Speaker 4: that goes back to the coach who's coaching. Man, that's
Speaker 4: Cliff Kingsburg, Cliff, you got to give you know, you
Speaker 4: got to you got to tip your head off to him.
Speaker 4: Just seeing some of the things that I've seen, it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, how like when you go into a game
Speaker 4: and you say, you know it's a copycat league. We've
Speaker 4: seen this week after week. Got the week from my
Speaker 4: defensive standpoint, every team took what Tampa did and killed
Speaker 4: us with and been trying to do it. They coming,
Speaker 4: they bring it in that bunch, they bringing in guys clothes,
Speaker 4: they're trying to get those crosses. They're trying to get
Speaker 4: us to say, you know, seeing we're gonna communicate in
Speaker 4: the second are you always talk about communicating, seeing that
Speaker 4: we're gonna box it, seeing we're gonna lie that shut
Speaker 4: up shot across to be picked up by somebody else
Speaker 4: On the other side, Teams are hitting us with that
Speaker 4: every week, and I'm watching them like they learn.
Speaker 2: And they go offensively for us.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing team saying this is what they're
Speaker 4: gonna do, so we're gonna throw this at them, and
Speaker 4: then they said, oh no, we're not throwing that at
Speaker 4: because they ready, they ready for your punch. They not fitnup,
Speaker 4: be food by that Hawaiian punch. Got action you do
Speaker 4: you want a Hawaiian punch. So that's what I love
Speaker 4: about what's going on because one, yes, you have a
Speaker 4: kid that's playing a high level fast early in his
Speaker 4: career as a rookie, but you have a coach that
Speaker 4: been here, done that, and understand where he went right
Speaker 4: at and what he was wrong at and when he
Speaker 4: did last time.
Speaker 5: So I just got to get a lot of.
Speaker 3: The way he digests what he's seeing is special to me.
Speaker 3: Like digesting it, processing it, get the ball out this
Speaker 3: This is the biggest thing for a rookie quarterback. Like
Speaker 3: I could always tell when a quarterback ain't ain't processing
Speaker 3: what he's seeing. Our guys processing what he's seeing. He's
Speaker 3: taking what the defense is giving him. And that's the
Speaker 3: biggest lesson for a rookie quarterback. Don't try to be
Speaker 3: a hero throw the ball with a defense is giving
Speaker 3: it up at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that's like this is where it's like,
Speaker 1: really I think this is really like an interesting football
Speaker 1: conversation because what Tanna is saying is it's the coaching
Speaker 1: and you're saying, oh, it's the player. But I do
Speaker 1: think it's symbiotic right there. It is they hold hands
Speaker 1: hand in hand, right, And I think when you look
Speaker 1: at the Arizona game, it's a perfect example of what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, Tanna. It's like Cliff has done a
Speaker 1: really good job of being committed to running the football.
Speaker 1: So we're running, you know, thirty runs in a game,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five runs, whatever it is. Then in terms
Speaker 1: of passes, drop back passes, there's these opportunities where, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to run quick game, and Jayden Daniels has
Speaker 1: been excellent a quick game, Like we talked about it
Speaker 1: yesterday on the Command Center show. Like his ability to
Speaker 1: get the ball, like to accelerate his feet and get
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands quickly is almost a
Speaker 1: cheat code on like those little sticks, those are your
Speaker 1: five yard outs, little sit routes, things like that. And
Speaker 1: so those are like maybe ten of your throws a game.
Speaker 1: And then you've got keepers and boots and those are
Speaker 1: traditionally very low leverage throws because it's not a complicated read.
Speaker 2: You go to get it out on time.
Speaker 1: You mitigate the protections, right because you're moving the pocket,
Speaker 1: you're changing the launch angle, and so all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: in a game where he's dropping back to throw thirty
Speaker 1: five times, he's got you know, seven quick game, he's
Speaker 1: got seven play action keepers, he's got five where he scrambles.
Speaker 1: And then when you get into the nitty gritty of it,
Speaker 1: it's like you got ten that are like hard. And
Speaker 1: I look at other offenses around the league and I'm like,
Speaker 1: these other quarterbacks they're leveraged way more acutely than that.
Speaker 1: And so I think that's something that's important for fans
Speaker 1: to understand, and it's important to to keep that in perspective.
Speaker 1: Is it's like they're working together. It's not like this
Speaker 1: guy gets the credit and this guy gets the credit.
Speaker 1: It's like they they they are, they're hand in hand.
Speaker 1: And again I look back at we talked about this
Speaker 1: yesterday too. The offense they don't get in bad down
Speaker 1: in distance, always had a sticks. I think in the
Speaker 1: last game there was three third and tens in the
Speaker 1: whole game, and then against Cincinnati there was three. And
Speaker 1: then if you look at the first two games, you
Speaker 1: know me, they were there were sixteen, right, so it
Speaker 1: was way up. So obviously they're becoming more efficient because
Speaker 1: Jayden knows when to scramble, Like you're talking about Cliff's
Speaker 1: calling a good game and just elevating the entire offense.
Speaker 1: And and I think that's that's hard for fans. It's
Speaker 1: hard for people in general to cross. Yeah, right, But
Speaker 1: like you've been a part of staffs and teams where
Speaker 1: it's like, this guy's a beast, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like in terms of future and development, like where
Speaker 1: like where's the road for jayde And you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying like that, because that's the thing. It's like
Speaker 1: right now, he's he's this. It's it's like it's like
Speaker 1: we're kind of in a I don't want to say,
Speaker 1: a simpler version of an offense. But like seeing some
Speaker 1: of those throws versus this is Cincinnati, seeing some of
Speaker 1: those shows versuserves on, I'm like, he's got the ability
Speaker 1: to do me.
Speaker 3: Lord, they're layering it every game, They're adding a little
Speaker 3: bit more to the play every game.
Speaker 2: So where is he headed?
Speaker 1: To me?
Speaker 3: He's a dual threat right now, He's a I could
Speaker 3: beat you with my feet, I could beat you with
Speaker 3: my Where he's headed is a triple threat.
Speaker 2: I beat you with my feet, I beat.
Speaker 3: You with my arm and now I run outside the
Speaker 3: pocket to pass the ball like Patrick Mahomes. Now you
Speaker 3: become a three headed monster that we on defense have
Speaker 3: no answer for U.
Speaker 4: You know, I think too, you know when you look
Speaker 4: at it, I mean the Scott's a limit. I think
Speaker 4: when you think about it, when you look at certain
Speaker 4: offenses in this league that's efficient and that's having success.
Speaker 4: And I just throw out let's throw out there Cincinnati
Speaker 4: because I love what I saw in Joe Burrow at
Speaker 4: the time. Like Joe Burrow showed me the other day
Speaker 4: that he has complete control of what's going on him.
Speaker 5: You show me something, I'm gonna make you.
Speaker 4: Now I believe me again, you feel me, I believe
Speaker 4: And so I look at the.
Speaker 5: Potential of what we have with Jayden.
Speaker 4: It's on that level I feel like he has when
Speaker 4: a guy broke down the first throw the terry on
Speaker 4: the left side of the field in Cincinnati game, when
Speaker 4: when he got a little pressure, Jane backed out of
Speaker 4: there and threw it up here and he went out
Speaker 4: of bound. And so they say what the defense say, Okay,
Speaker 4: when I show zero, this is what he gonna do
Speaker 4: it show zero again. This time turns on the right side,
Speaker 4: and this time he stood in the pain and nohing
Speaker 4: know what. Last time I backed out of there too
Speaker 4: far and I overthrew him. I throw at a bound
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna stand here, Takey's head. I'm gonna throw
Speaker 4: it early so it can give him a chance to
Speaker 4: get under it. To me, see, just that one little
Speaker 4: clip I saw from that dude break that down showed
Speaker 4: me what we're talking about.
Speaker 5: He's learning on the job. It's not taking him five
Speaker 5: games to understand that.
Speaker 4: I've been around here where we were like, throw the
Speaker 4: ball to him. He's open, he's your read. I've been
Speaker 4: in those meetings and I'm hot because I'm the guy.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I understand what it's like to be a receiver
Speaker 4: and not get the look from a guy. And I'm
Speaker 4: not talking about a young guy. I'm talking about it. Have
Speaker 4: got Ben Hill for seven years. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So when I'm seeing a kid do that, disguis's the limit.
Speaker 5: Because if I.
Speaker 4: See Joe Burrow being able to say, hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take that shot. We saw early in the preseason he
Speaker 4: took a shot when coach didn called the play Yeah.
Speaker 4: So if he's showing me that that early, that's where
Speaker 4: he's head with this. What's what they're gonna allow him
Speaker 4: to do eventually?
Speaker 2: This is what fifty college football games does.
Speaker 3: Like he didn't seem pretty much everything you can see
Speaker 3: from a college perspective.
Speaker 1: But then you look at Joe Joe Knicks, right, Bo Knicks,
Speaker 1: Sir Nicks. Yeah, Like, and he's he played, he's got
Speaker 1: the most starts in college football thousand and he's struggling too.
Speaker 4: But I go back to the coaching, go to coaching, yea,
Speaker 4: how much they putting on boon Nick's play everything.
Speaker 2: See what I'm saying everything, That's how I.
Speaker 5: Look at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think the thing like
Speaker 1: the Tennis point, Like, obviously he's got the highest completion
Speaker 1: percentage of anybody ever through first four for the first
Speaker 1: four games, right, and you're talking about Tom Brady, Gino Smith,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, the other guys on that list. But the
Speaker 1: thing that's exciting, that's really awesome because it shows his efficiency.
Speaker 1: But the thing that gets me really juiced to Tennis
Speaker 1: point is every week he's gotten better and and and
Speaker 1: the percentage, the completion percentage is up and down right.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's obviously it's almost perfect game. It's
Speaker 1: almost perfect ca But in terms of throws, in terms
Speaker 1: of how you're handling stuff, like week one, we're getting
Speaker 1: heated up by top bowls. We look a little unsettled.
Speaker 1: We're not sitting in the pocket, We're getting out there.
Speaker 1: It starts game, and then first half of the Giants game.
Speaker 1: What was it, right, It was a little kind of
Speaker 1: and then obvious, all of a sudden, we start settling
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. We're balling Arizona. Man, we got zero, didn't
Speaker 1: even blink. We're throwing that. We're throwing then out of terror.
Speaker 1: And then we were already talked about those kind of
Speaker 1: those high leverage throws and then the decision making when
Speaker 1: to scramble, when not to scramble. He's getting better each
Speaker 1: and every week, and so I think that's the thing
Speaker 1: that gives me the most optimism. Like there's gonna I
Speaker 1: might sound like a hater, there's gonna be there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a regression in completion percentage, Like you cannot play it, you.
Speaker 2: Can't play this high level the hotel.
Speaker 1: But if he shows the ability to Fred's point, of
Speaker 1: being able to do the easy things like we talked
Speaker 1: about this, like with uh with Robert Griffin like he
Speaker 1: is he was a big play shot down the field guy,
Speaker 1: big play back. There's so much variance there. You can't
Speaker 1: sustain an offensive because he ain't.
Speaker 2: Doing the middle, right.
Speaker 4: I don't even want to see us sustain that because
Speaker 4: I understand it's gonna be a letdown somewhere, so I'd
Speaker 4: rather see them just like going into the last week game,
Speaker 4: everybody was talking at nauseum all week long about a turnover, bro, Like,
Speaker 4: stop putting it out, there's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: But guess what the turnover happened? And what he did?
Speaker 2: Learn?
Speaker 4: All Right, I got you, you got me once and
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna do it again. And that's that's all
Speaker 4: we're saying right now. All three of us are saying
Speaker 4: the same thing. We understand it's gonna be highs and
Speaker 4: that's gonna be lows. But if you show me that
Speaker 4: you can stay in the middle between all those and
Speaker 4: still come out on top every time, even after you fail,
Speaker 4: that's what.
Speaker 5: We want to see.
Speaker 4: That's how you be a good team, and that's how
Speaker 4: you build around the quarterback. Because you know that this
Speaker 4: guy's not gonna blink even when he makes the worst
Speaker 4: decision or mistake.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And we talked about the highest completion percentages ever, right,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about the prank man that Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: the Kurt Warner, the Tom Brady. Right, they were not
Speaker 1: hunting big plays, but what they were is they were
Speaker 1: crazy efficient. Like on the on the ten yard out,
Speaker 1: on the throw over the middle of the field, they
Speaker 1: could operate that. And I think you're starting to see
Speaker 1: him grow into that a little bit, right, And Cliff's
Speaker 1: done a good job, like you said, bringing him along,
Speaker 1: And so I think that's the thing that gets me
Speaker 1: excited is there's other guys when you watch other rookie
Speaker 1: quarterbacks around the league and other even veteran quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: have a hard time doing that, and he's shown an
Speaker 1: ability to get that done and that means to me,
Speaker 1: this is going to be more sustainable long term. And
Speaker 1: then I think the other thing is sometimes when it's
Speaker 1: not perfect, his ability to scramble and make it perfect
Speaker 1: and get you to third and four, just get you
Speaker 1: to third and four. It just helps you out a
Speaker 1: ton if you.
Speaker 2: Really watch it.
Speaker 5: Go ahead for it.
Speaker 3: No, No, it's two routes that is conus hate. We caught
Speaker 3: him back breakers and if quarterbacks continually complete these two
Speaker 3: routes on us, we considered it almost unstopped.
Speaker 1: And it's a out route.
Speaker 3: In between five and teen yards and they comeback if
Speaker 3: a quarterback continues to do that. You noticed I didn't
Speaker 3: say the god rap. I didn't say the posts. Them
Speaker 3: two routes keep drives going like drive.
Speaker 4: See, I've been here before and I had to. I
Speaker 4: had to get this out there. I've been around quarterbacks
Speaker 4: like a Jaden Dames. I had one in college, I
Speaker 4: had one in high school.
Speaker 5: Now I had a few in the league. You know
Speaker 5: what I mean. They wasn't the same.
Speaker 4: You know when it comes to just you know, raw
Speaker 4: Tagg being able to you know, have that precision and
Speaker 4: being decisive like him. But I'm saying this because eventually
Speaker 4: the receiver's gonna know, like when he break the pocket,
Speaker 4: he's so accurate, he's gonna hit me if I find
Speaker 4: a way to get open. And now you're gonna get
Speaker 4: guys out there about to kill themselve to make sure
Speaker 4: I get in the window knowing that hes gonna get
Speaker 4: me opportunity and eventually now you're talking about bigger plays, more,
Speaker 4: you know, more advances like balls down the field. He
Speaker 4: can layer so many different ways. He can throw the
Speaker 4: ball so many different ways. Man that like, I bring
Speaker 4: hup to play from last week when he broke the
Speaker 4: procket and I'm like, okay, it's no way he gonna
Speaker 4: get this to this running back running backs, No'm me
Speaker 4: gon'na catch the ball winning when a quarterback on the
Speaker 4: run throwing the ball, but he gave him a chance.
Speaker 4: It wasn't it was bad. It wasn't behind me, it
Speaker 4: wasn't too far in front of me.
Speaker 1: It was here.
Speaker 4: Yeah right it guess what the gown on my back,
Speaker 4: but the ball is here. I got no choice but
Speaker 4: the bear hugget. You see what I'm saying, and take
Speaker 4: the hit. When you're seeing that, You're like, bro, this
Speaker 4: guy's going to give you an opportunity. So guess what
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get over. I'm gonna find a way to
Speaker 4: get over he throwing the spots not people.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing you mentioned, like the
Speaker 1: running backs the receivers, is it's we talked about cliffs
Speaker 1: involved and we talked about Jaden's involvement making plays. But
Speaker 1: it really is, like our producer Jason did a really
Speaker 1: good job of finding this stat. So, most points per
Speaker 1: drive first four games of the season since two thousand Right,
Speaker 1: Greenmay Packers three point sixty seven. The Washington Commanders come
Speaker 1: for the next team on that list, what Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs twenty twenty one? They were balling right, the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots in two thousand and seven blew everybody at
Speaker 1: And I don't care how good your quarterback is, I
Speaker 1: don't care how good your offensive coordinator is. Everybody on
Speaker 1: the team needs to be making play tribute to and
Speaker 1: so like when I look at b Rob, I think
Speaker 1: is a great example be Robin the O line just
Speaker 1: as a one case study. Like their ability to stay
Speaker 1: on schedule with positive runs is huge, right McNichols. Right,
Speaker 1: Like the touch that the first touch on any scores
Speaker 1: like they can't since Arizona plays that plays that pretty good, right,
Speaker 1: But he does a great job bouncing outside, making a
Speaker 1: guy miss and getting the ends refuse to get. And
Speaker 1: so I think when you watch the film, the thing
Speaker 1: you come with with is Jaden's making a lot of plays,
Speaker 1: but guys are also making plays for him in a
Speaker 1: way that like you can't have this number without everybody
Speaker 1: working together. And that's why this is also such a
Speaker 1: special thing to watch of the last two games specifically,
Speaker 1: is it's Jayden, right, it's Cliff. But then it's like,
Speaker 1: for example, like there was a third down where they're
Speaker 1: throwing a ball to Noah Brown, you know, and Jade
Speaker 1: makes a good play, but Noah makes the play for him, right,
Speaker 1: or Terry makes the play on the app Like it's
Speaker 1: everybody working together, and it's it's so hard to kind
Speaker 1: of say like it's the one to five to get
Speaker 1: a credit.
Speaker 5: It goes back to what I say, the colture. That's
Speaker 5: who they create. They have the here.
Speaker 1: It's just.
Speaker 5: Everybody, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The culture that they have built right here has shown
Speaker 4: you this is how we plan offensively, defensively and special teams.
Speaker 4: Why we got the players in here that's gonna never
Speaker 4: quit and it's gonna always try to find a way
Speaker 4: to when they're when they're down and every man is
Speaker 4: out there winning they're down.
Speaker 3: Brandon Coleman is ranked one of the highest offensive linemen
Speaker 3: per snap Right now, haven't gave up a pressure.
Speaker 2: Haven't gave up a sack like these are Like I know,
Speaker 2: J numbers are incredible. The office is a whole, but
Speaker 2: once you start.
Speaker 3: The individually, go to these guys numbers like wow, I
Speaker 3: had no idea to dude.
Speaker 4: We were sitting there talking, talking and talking to some
Speaker 4: and I out about how Terry should.
Speaker 5: Get more involved. It's happening.
Speaker 4: Give the time, like you know it's gonna happen. That's
Speaker 4: why I say you can't force anything in life. You
Speaker 4: can't force it when you press. That's when things go bad.
Speaker 4: You allow it you when you allow it to mature,
Speaker 4: and when you allow it to you know. I guess
Speaker 4: you can say flow your way like I used always say,
Speaker 4: let the game flow to me, like I hate it
Speaker 4: going to the game like coach.
Speaker 5: Like we gotta get you to ball.
Speaker 4: No, coach, let it flow and don't try to force nothing.
Speaker 4: Guys going to be They're gonna come out here looking
Speaker 4: for me to do it. So I'm not going to
Speaker 4: get the matchup that I want out the gate.
Speaker 5: It's allowed to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember when I was in Chicago, like Alshon
Speaker 1: Jeffrey was our guy. It was a dog and he
Speaker 1: was hurt, and our offense went from like okay to
Speaker 1: like pretty effective, like we were throwing for close to
Speaker 1: three dy yards a game or Russian for you know,
Speaker 1: ninety five to one hundred. We were being very, very effective.
Speaker 1: He comes back and I remember the ocbing like, oh,
Speaker 1: we got to make sure all Sean gets his touches.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, you know, we're just talking
Speaker 1: at lunch one time, and he was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: like probably twelve fifteen touches. I think it's appropriate. And
Speaker 1: the problem was that it's stimy the office. Ye, it
Speaker 1: stunted the offense because unless that dude is just like
Speaker 1: an hour slute stud and Calvin does Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: winning one on ones, but like because like what happens
Speaker 1: is like, let's say Alshon doesn't win on the slant
Speaker 1: quarterback double clutches take a sack. It's second and fifteen.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's one thing that I give
Speaker 1: credit a lot of credit to this offense, to Cliff,
Speaker 1: the whole staff is it's like, hey man, we're gonna
Speaker 1: it's gonna come go ahead. We're not going to like
Speaker 1: force it to certain guys. And I think it's been
Speaker 1: super effective. But so I think all in all, right,
Speaker 1: I think just to kind of wrap it up, like
Speaker 1: it is, Jane's doing an exceptional job, Cliff's doing an
Speaker 1: exceptional Everybody the offense as a whole is doing an
Speaker 1: exceptional job. And so I think, like that's what you
Speaker 1: to give it context, Like it's not it can't you
Speaker 1: can't give it to one person. It's it's all.
Speaker 2: Everybody's playing on a high, high level.
Speaker 1: And it's not even all eleven to Tannis point, it's
Speaker 1: the backups are doing well. Like the run game, Like
Speaker 1: I mentioned this the other day too, Like the the
Speaker 1: run game, like they ran four new runs that they've
Speaker 1: never run before in this game. So Anthony Lyn's in
Speaker 1: his bag, you know, like the quarterback coach is doing
Speaker 1: a great job. You mentioned the line coach with Brandon,
Speaker 1: Like it's not just the eleven, it's the whole organization
Speaker 1: is doing a great job. And it's it's just a
Speaker 1: lot of fun to.
Speaker 3: See they're coming together, like the Avengers. They're coming together
Speaker 3: when we need, we nerve need them to come together.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. They are own the same weight.
Speaker 3: Like it's you could always tell when a team is
Speaker 3: we all here. We understand the mission, we understand where
Speaker 3: we're trying to go, and we understand the route to
Speaker 3: get there.
Speaker 1: And I guess my question, and this is we'll talk
Speaker 1: about this morning the Cleveland Preview is and you've already
Speaker 1: alluded to this, Tanna, and you did it such a
Speaker 1: nice job. But it's it's not as it's sustainable versus
Speaker 1: better groups.
Speaker 5: I think it is.
Speaker 4: I think one of the things that I want to see,
Speaker 4: which I kind of seen a little glimpse of it,
Speaker 4: is you know, do you know how to you know
Speaker 4: how the success? You know what I mean, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we've had success everybody and Mama want to talk about
Speaker 4: you right now. And I think from from every guy
Speaker 4: in that in this building and that's in those classrooms,
Speaker 4: it's no other coach that I would want them to
Speaker 4: be under at a time like this than Dan Quinn. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because I feel like he understands we've done nothing, how
Speaker 4: to check his guys, how to have them and he
Speaker 4: understands like, we ain't done nothing, and I haven't been
Speaker 4: in one of those means.
Speaker 5: But I promise you you've been Coach Brown. I promise you.
Speaker 5: He's probably telling them, hey, guy, we ain't do noneing yet, we.
Speaker 4: Nothing if you happy about this and this is the
Speaker 4: only time, that's the only stuff you've ever experienced in life.
Speaker 2: Man, you got to.
Speaker 4: Let you got a long life to live. You got
Speaker 4: it's gonna be more roses.
Speaker 3: Hen told them, we ain't played the complete game yet, bing,
Speaker 3: we ain't played the complete game so yet.
Speaker 4: I want to see these guys enjoy this. Hey, it
Speaker 4: feels good, basket. It's I will never tell you to
Speaker 4: want to feel how you've been feeling the last four
Speaker 4: or five years here. Yeah, for those guys who are
Speaker 4: still who've been here since then. But understand, with all
Speaker 4: that's been done out there now and all the all
Speaker 4: the hooting and hollering about you, I need you to
Speaker 4: go out here and hit it harder and one in
Speaker 4: the classroom and even when you go home, change everything
Speaker 4: you're doing. Make sure that you can sustain it. You're
Speaker 4: going to ask me, came you to sustain it? I'll say, yeah,
Speaker 4: it is up to now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think like to kind of put a
Speaker 1: bow on that. Like in his postgame presser or postgame
Speaker 1: interview that we do with bram On, you know, for
Speaker 1: the show, he was like, you know, Brand was like, man,
Speaker 1: this is really exciting. This is a great opportunity, Like
Speaker 1: can you keep it going? And he was like that's
Speaker 1: for you guys to talk about, Like that's the roller coaster.
Speaker 1: We're not riding the roller coaster, right, We're doing we
Speaker 1: got to do And Tanna like you told me this
Speaker 1: off air, Like you one of the reasons you were
Speaker 1: so successful is you were just like every day, every game,
Speaker 1: good or bad, was the same. And that's the vibe
Speaker 1: I'm getting from Dan. It's the vibe I'm getting from Jaden,
Speaker 1: and that's another reason why, Like he's performing well. But
Speaker 1: I feel like mentally that dude is locked in a
Speaker 1: special way, and I think all of those things allow
Speaker 1: me to believe that this is this is sustainable and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what the rest of the
Speaker 1: season which looks like. So we were right getting ready
Speaker 1: to talk about the defense right reviewing that game, and
Speaker 1: a couple of guys it's like me, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: name some names, Doron Payne, John Allen, Joshn Newton, Jeremy Chin,
Speaker 1: Frankie Luvu, Bobby Wagner who.
Speaker 2: Had the most sex in this game, Because you're forgetting him.
Speaker 1: Darren's armstrong, thank you, and then our guy. I thought
Speaker 1: Saint Juice played a solid game.
Speaker 2: I thought ching played a hill of a game, I.
Speaker 1: Said, I said him already, but yeah, got the manual,
Speaker 1: give him some propsnogony. I thought it was pretty solid.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's still some issues in terms of
Speaker 1: fit runs up. Again, you're you're gonna mess don't you
Speaker 1: say it? I want to know what monogamy monogamy.
Speaker 2: That's what I say. All right, it's not.
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you say it and it like messes me up.
Speaker 5: I tear it up every time. Monogamy, monogamy, monogamy.
Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no, I have it.
Speaker 5: I have it.
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, let's keep going. But yeah, so I thought,
Speaker 1: much more consistent from an efforts standpoint, much more consistent
Speaker 1: from a rule standpoint.
Speaker 2: And a communication standpoint. This communication is everything on.
Speaker 3: And I saw these guys communicate early and often, and
Speaker 3: that's what you want to do. I want to communicate
Speaker 3: early so I can get the other guy chance to
Speaker 3: figure out his game player. And I saw these guys
Speaker 3: and I'm talking about see, it's a different run across
Speaker 3: that the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: And yeah, hone it up.
Speaker 2: No, no, loud, I want to be talking loud.
Speaker 3: I want I want to peep in the stands to
Speaker 3: hear this. Why this when I said, oh, they started
Speaker 3: to settle down, Because now they're communicating.
Speaker 4: I think you can honestly see the coaching starting to
Speaker 4: taking you know, a play, a play a part into
Speaker 4: their uh, because I mean we saw all last year
Speaker 4: we s'sed to be like like how how we keep
Speaker 4: doing the same thing we through the.
Speaker 5: Week and now you see corrections.
Speaker 4: Yeah, every week I've seen I've seen a similar formation
Speaker 4: from the opposing offense, and I've seen us play it
Speaker 4: differently and have success by defending it. So that's coaching.
Speaker 4: Coaching comes and playing a part. Joe with and his
Speaker 4: staff man doing a great job and those players, man,
Speaker 4: hats off to the players because like you said, Saint Juice,
Speaker 4: you know, we've been talking about him at nausea at times,
Speaker 4: like you know, and he's playing with some up and
Speaker 4: you know what like like heyne over.
Speaker 1: Here, physical, aggressive, playing with the good technique and like
Speaker 1: that's what we always just talked about. It's like last
Speaker 1: year I felt like I was watched him like he
Speaker 1: has no tools, there's no plan. But you can tell
Speaker 1: the coaches. I been, hey man, take away the insight,
Speaker 1: take away the slant. We're okay with the comeback.
Speaker 2: You give him there, And that's what good conas understand.
Speaker 3: It's a guilt and it's a take. It is no
Speaker 3: play where I can cover the whole route tree. It's
Speaker 3: no And that's what most young conas because in college
Speaker 3: you're just better than that.
Speaker 2: Dude. It ain't like that in the league.
Speaker 3: You got to give something, you got to take some away,
Speaker 3: but you got to understand why you're doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you definitely see that with everybody you
Speaker 1: knowing Binogni also same thing Forbes. I thought had a
Speaker 1: really nice run fit. Dude, Jeremy Chin looked like a dude,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he hit them right there, and he looked like
Speaker 5: he got out.
Speaker 4: He got off that he got out in one nose
Speaker 4: thing where they create players or something. Dude music, he
Speaker 4: walking around all you see his biceps.
Speaker 3: You know he he's physical. But the identity of any
Speaker 3: great defense is the linebackers.
Speaker 2: That's the identity of dude. Kenna.
Speaker 1: You were talking about Frankie and they're they're different stylistically,
Speaker 1: like Frankie Luvu kind of reminds me of like like
Speaker 1: a Tasmanian devil a little bit. I was just thinking this,
Speaker 1: like like you just throw him out there, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I got you. Let him go.
Speaker 5: He blowing it up every time.
Speaker 3: And then and then Bobby wag Got like he just
Speaker 3: like he's more like Cobra Commander.
Speaker 2: Well, he gonna figure out eventually what she's gonna do.
Speaker 4: He's just remember that that movie with Adam Sandler, and
Speaker 4: I think he he I don't know if he got rich.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he had a Butler that was like
Speaker 1: just a period.
Speaker 5: Bobby wagon just sorwed up on the tackle.
Speaker 1: Bobby Waggon on theme over there, like where did he
Speaker 1: come from?
Speaker 5: He just in the back field. He just pops up.
Speaker 1: I heard child were playing football over here, mister deeds,
Speaker 1: mister man.
Speaker 2: I was he dug deep?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, I was all my whole brain
Speaker 1: was just working through it.
Speaker 5: I couldn't if you gave me a couple of dollars
Speaker 5: to do so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we thought those guys played well. Jeremy again
Speaker 1: like one of my favorite players of this game. Kwan Martin,
Speaker 1: same thing. There was a third and nine, they're playing quarters.
Speaker 1: They checked the ball down in the back and those
Speaker 1: two dudes look like wolves. Man. They color coming downhill,
Speaker 1: closing the gap. Physical tackle stops them for It was
Speaker 1: a big game. But fourth and one, next play is
Speaker 1: the sack. And that's the kind of thing that you're
Speaker 1: getting from this defense is like they're fighting for every
Speaker 1: blade of grass. You know, John Allen running out of
Speaker 1: the stack, tackling receivers, getting guys in pursuit, and again
Speaker 1: is it perfect? Nothing is, no, But they they've gotten better.
Speaker 4: To Tannis Pointing, who ever made that that Instagram post
Speaker 4: last week about John now and he saw it.
Speaker 5: He saw it cause he came. He came this week.
Speaker 5: Boy ready to go somebody else? Yeah, somebody took Tim off.
Speaker 2: It happens. Man Able cranks the cowan the cop.
Speaker 1: And so I definitely think like that. It was nice
Speaker 1: to see them play better. They still need to again
Speaker 1: clean up some of the right fist stuff, but I
Speaker 1: do think they had a plan they executed. We saw
Speaker 1: the pass rush, we saw how the pass rush could
Speaker 1: insulate the coverage units, and so really good job, and
Speaker 1: you know, really just kudos to the entire defensive staff,
Speaker 1: but also dan Quinn. I mean, think about us talking
Speaker 1: about this team now and how we were talking about
Speaker 1: this team last year, and I felt like last year
Speaker 1: we were kind of lying to ourselves a little bit.
Speaker 1: But now there's like genuine things on the field. Like
Speaker 1: when I pulled clips for Coaches Show, when I pulled
Speaker 1: clips for the Command Center Show, I'm like, man, these
Speaker 1: are good football players.
Speaker 4: To man, it's like one of the things about having
Speaker 4: your your leader identity. Like the way dan Quinn talks,
Speaker 4: that's the way the team is playing, you know. I
Speaker 4: mean like they're planing to the to the to the
Speaker 4: beat up his drum and you can see it. We
Speaker 4: saw it in Dallas. We saw when he was in Seattle.
Speaker 4: You play, you play under them. You saw it in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Like that's what I'm seeing. And it's it's early now.
Speaker 4: We haven't gotten we haven't we haven't found ourselves yet.
Speaker 5: We're still we'll still try must try to be that team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can see it. For mean, you see
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and that is about it. That's why
Speaker 4: I was saying, like every week I just want to
Speaker 4: see I want to see a good product.
Speaker 5: You know, made the best team win. What if you
Speaker 5: show me that competitive?
Speaker 4: I'm competitive and I'm out here fighting for it. Like
Speaker 4: you said, every bay of glass bro that's I can
Speaker 4: win with that. I would take that home and lace
Speaker 4: and sleep easy than saying, man, we just went out
Speaker 4: there and played and didn't know what we was doing.
Speaker 3: Right, cut to the manure, all right, from the time
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn and got here, it feels great to walk
Speaker 3: in this building. It's a different aura, it's a different cloud,
Speaker 3: it's a different leadership. One thing about leadership is good
Speaker 3: leadership make other people want to follow.
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna be none of that other stuff.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Then Quinn established an environment of everybody hold everybody of came.
Speaker 5: You can have all the ability in the world.
Speaker 4: I've been around a lot of players where we've you've
Speaker 4: been on this organization where you get all the guys
Speaker 4: with the abilities. Prime was here, you know, LeVar Aronson
Speaker 4: was here, Bailey, Bailey. You can have all that in
Speaker 4: one room. If we not coached there and be on
Speaker 4: the same you ain't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's you mentioned Dan. I mean
Speaker 1: they made the decision to go out there early, get
Speaker 1: those guys situated to get them settled in that that
Speaker 1: is a good football decision.
Speaker 2: The ownership.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, football decisions always haven't been supported here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that is really cool to see the ownership group
Speaker 1: supporting football people making football decisions and kind of being like,
Speaker 1: we want to win games. And so if you if
Speaker 1: for people that I have a bumpment of people at
Speaker 1: the supermarket and they're like, logan, it's the same. And
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're watching exactly, but it's these
Speaker 1: these things would not have happened and it's not the same.
Speaker 2: Nothing is the same.
Speaker 4: Just tell them, I'm gonna give you o be Mitch.
Speaker 4: Oh it's gonna go down fingers salot, dude, b Mitch.
Speaker 1: Fight would fight them right there in the store.
Speaker 3: I always tell them, leg grim mon cout, be patient,
Speaker 3: be patient, like everybody want this thing that's just flipped
Speaker 3: in there, and for something we have kind of flip
Speaker 3: so quick, like maybe expectations are different, but I tell
Speaker 3: them all the time, man, it's nothing about this.
Speaker 5: The thing about it coming to this year.
Speaker 4: I told you before I didn't have high expectations, and
Speaker 4: I think still when you watch the product so far,
Speaker 4: in four weeks. I still don't put those high expectations
Speaker 4: on this team because, like I understand what it takes to.
Speaker 5: Be a team's going you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Look, you can you can taste a little bit of success,
Speaker 4: but how.
Speaker 5: Can you can you handle it?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The first cor you put the season, can you win?
Speaker 4: Sick and hold on and let's just go back. Jason,
Speaker 4: you gonna have to bring this up. You remember before
Speaker 4: the season started, we had that list of teams. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think I'm on us saying, don't be surprised that
Speaker 4: we was three and one.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to sug Jason, we got that somewhere.
Speaker 1: Dig that.
Speaker 2: I was like, they ain't gonna know what We're gonna
Speaker 2: run on.
Speaker 5: Saying that I didn't give us the whole big ten
Speaker 5: game thing.
Speaker 4: But I said, I won't be surprising that first four
Speaker 4: he was doing one.
Speaker 5: So I want Jason to go and pull that up here.
Speaker 2: I want to pack my own background.
Speaker 1: Because I think go sift through how many hours of
Speaker 1: podcasts and find that sucker. I don't even know.
Speaker 4: It just got our schedule. It just got our scheduled. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he was talking about good luck you see us running.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, turn Caroline, thank you in advance. So yeah,
Speaker 1: really excited. But like Tanner was saying, it's it's a
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Is a week to week thing, that's
Speaker 1: how it is. And we got Cleveland Browns coming to
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and this is just a little note and
Speaker 1: take it for what you want, but three of the
Speaker 1: four teams we just played have the three worst defenses
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And that you know, again through a
Speaker 1: small sample size. Obviously the Commanders getting after them a
Speaker 1: little bit, it's gonna weigh them down a little bit.
Speaker 1: But when you watch Cleveland on defense.
Speaker 2: They got legit as they get.
Speaker 1: It's a different animal than what we've seen. Like so
Speaker 1: one of the things that's kind of like i'd say
Speaker 1: described the Giants, it's described Cincinnati, it's described Arizona, is
Speaker 1: they can't rush the passer very well.
Speaker 2: Giants have thirteen sex so far. But it's but.
Speaker 1: You know how many pressures and hurries that this team
Speaker 1: has two four games, tell me they have forty. So
Speaker 1: they're getting ten hits on a quarterback again, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so little Again, I'm not saying the Giants are are
Speaker 1: great this is a different tier.
Speaker 2: It's a different animal.
Speaker 1: It's different animals. And so you know Miles Garrett, obviously.
Speaker 2: You know I am running at him on first ship him.
Speaker 5: I won't need a green moule want to run out
Speaker 5: of him shipping him.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna run it big juhn. It was, I'm running
Speaker 3: a big juhn so I could tie him out for
Speaker 3: the passing down. I'm running at him, I'm screening at him.
Speaker 3: I want him doing this the whole game. And they
Speaker 3: got taking level him. They got great linebackers. Also, they
Speaker 3: got two great corners. So this is gonna be one
Speaker 3: of those games. This is gonna be the test for Jaden.
Speaker 3: I think that Tempa Bay defense very good defense. But
Speaker 3: this defense right here play up for player. They're gonna say,
Speaker 3: we're gonna try to match up with you, and they're
Speaker 3: gonna try to send heat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got they ain't gonna do with the other team.
Speaker 3: DNA say we gotta play zone because they'll run a quarterback.
Speaker 2: They're gonna try to send some heat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got some really good pass rushers. Obviously, obviously
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett headlines that group, but Zadarius Smith is a
Speaker 1: really nice movable chess peace Alex Ryder kid they drafted
Speaker 1: out of UAB maybe last year, two years ago. He's
Speaker 1: kind of an inside outside pass rusher obo a co
Speaker 1: a Conkrow. Excuse me, I said that one, right, I
Speaker 1: have to fetch chick fact check me. Good pass rushers.
Speaker 1: They got a nice little stable of guys there. They
Speaker 1: also have Dalvin Thominslyn who is a really good run
Speaker 1: stopping with three people.
Speaker 2: Boy in the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they've got some pieces. Then you mentioned the linebackers.
Speaker 1: They're very talented. Yep. Jeremiah Owusu coram m yep. This
Speaker 1: guy's trying to mess me up on my pronunciations. They
Speaker 1: play fast, they play physical, they blitz their aggressive. They
Speaker 1: play a lot of man coverage, and I will say this,
Speaker 1: they are the third They have the third highest explosive
Speaker 1: passes against. So because they they're playing all that man,
Speaker 1: they will lose guys sometimes and if the pressure doesn't
Speaker 1: get home, there are big plays to be had. So
Speaker 1: you mentioned the corners. There are advantages and matchups there,
Speaker 1: but I really think the main thing you gotta do
Speaker 1: is manage the pass rush. I think Fred hit the
Speaker 1: nail on the head there. How does Cliff call the game?
Speaker 1: Because you can again slow Miles Garrett down with some
Speaker 1: quick game. Jayden's excellent that RPOs screens, you know, zone reads.
Speaker 1: Let's read that guy's screens and then play action pass.
Speaker 1: Let's move the pocket. Everything Cliff's done of the last
Speaker 1: two weeks is applicable here. And I also think the
Speaker 1: important thing to remember is the Kansas. The Cleveland offense
Speaker 1: has struggled pretty dramatically, so you don't need to score
Speaker 1: fifty points. You could probably get away with twenty four
Speaker 1: points in this game. Whining, so managing that I think
Speaker 1: is also going to be an important.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely, especially with the Al's. They haveing on
Speaker 3: the office. Like you said, Watson not in his bag
Speaker 3: yet I see them arguing on the field with his
Speaker 3: office Liven. It is something going on there. I think
Speaker 3: that's the reason I say we got to jump out fast.
Speaker 3: We jump out fast, and now they had to fight back.
Speaker 3: That ain't what they're good at. They're averaging what sixteen
Speaker 3: points a game, So if you jump out there fast
Speaker 3: on them, and I know they got Jerry Judy, I
Speaker 3: know they got wide receivers out there, but it's an
Speaker 3: office that can be stopped drawn forward at the running back.
Speaker 3: I think the tight end comes back this week. So
Speaker 3: you know they got pieces now, good team, I mean
Speaker 3: they have pieces.
Speaker 4: And then I think, you know what, we've shown that
Speaker 4: we can play complimentary football. You know we're sounding in
Speaker 4: both phases. So I think we just got to go
Speaker 4: out there with that same game plan. Now will have
Speaker 4: had to switch some things up because of some of
Speaker 4: the town that they have, yes, number, But I think
Speaker 4: when you haven't seen much of what we got because
Speaker 4: everything is still new, you know what I mean, that
Speaker 4: was just one quarter of football.
Speaker 2: We're still in installment, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean, Then you haven't seen it they got.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they sit up there right now pulling the
Speaker 4: heads already like hey, we got to stop so much
Speaker 4: because this kid can run the ball, and this kid
Speaker 4: can do he can do to ultimate.
Speaker 3: But see can he run him out of man? It's
Speaker 3: gonna be the question can he run Adam?
Speaker 1: That would be wild because you know Arizona did change.
Speaker 1: They're a pretty aggressive blitzing team on third down. And again,
Speaker 1: this is maybe the most important thing in this game.
Speaker 1: Is one of the things Sacks gives you, is it
Speaker 1: gives you negative plays and it gives you pour down
Speaker 1: in distance. Right, So second and twelve, third and thirteen,
Speaker 1: and that's where teams get crazy exotic. If Jayden can
Speaker 1: continue making good decisions like we talked about and keep
Speaker 1: you in a manageable down in distance. They hated it then,
Speaker 1: and I would expect an adjustment from them a little bit,
Speaker 1: especially if you're in those shorter down in distances. Because
Speaker 1: Arizona they pressure a lot on third down, they didn't
Speaker 1: as much because of what he can do. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what adaptation they make. If
Speaker 1: I'm them, I'm just like, we're gonna heat him up.
Speaker 1: See if you can figure it out, you know, like
Speaker 1: just like you have about a song, like think about
Speaker 1: the toughest game you had this year was versus Todd Bowles.
Speaker 2: What does Todd Bowles do? Set Say them fast.
Speaker 1: Let's set a couple of fastballs. See if you handle it,
Speaker 1: see if you can get us out of it. But
Speaker 1: I think that's what I would expect from them early on,
Speaker 1: especially with the passers they got.
Speaker 4: And I could just be sure that I know Cliff
Speaker 4: probably having that in the back of his head that
Speaker 4: this is what team is gonna do because knowing that
Speaker 4: he's a young guy, knowing that we struggle with this
Speaker 4: week one have those plays in and sit right there
Speaker 4: in his pocket saying, well, I'm gonna get I'm gonna
Speaker 4: slip screen to sleep. And if they're gonna I they're
Speaker 4: gonna bless them. I'm getting rid of it right now.
Speaker 4: And now I.
Speaker 5: Gotta you, gotta you, gotta you gotta play to our beat.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. I'm gonna allow you to
Speaker 5: come ahead and dictate things.
Speaker 3: Off is gonna dictate things and getting Eckle back this week,
Speaker 3: that'll be a good HLP.
Speaker 1: And I do think that his jade, and we talked
Speaker 1: about this the top of the show, how much he's matured. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's not gonna even if they do being pressure,
Speaker 1: I think he'll be able to keep some level of composure,
Speaker 1: but much better defense. Let's talk about their offense real quick.
Speaker 1: To Shaun Watson, obviously struggling your guy Ken Doors. Did
Speaker 1: you play with Ken Doors so much so? They lead
Speaker 1: the NFL in passing attempts, but they stink it past.
Speaker 1: So the thing is they so when I to play
Speaker 1: with the Shaun Watson, when I when he was in Houston.
Speaker 1: He was at that time, which was twenty nineteen, was
Speaker 1: maybe the most impressive quarterback on you know, forget about
Speaker 1: what he's doing off the field. On the field only
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And one of the things
Speaker 1: he was excellent at was extending plays and taking shots
Speaker 1: down the field. This offense requires him to be extremely fastidious.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is like they're running
Speaker 1: they please. What you mean by this, sorry, fastidious means
Speaker 1: like diligent. We're very kind of deliberate, not playing with
Speaker 1: instructure quite a bit, and so they get an empty
Speaker 1: lot and they run a lot of quick game. So
Speaker 1: when you run a quick game, you got to be
Speaker 1: on time, you got to be in rhythm. That's not
Speaker 1: what he is. And so they really struggle. And then
Speaker 1: their vertical five step, their vertical pass game, their five
Speaker 1: step pass game is all predicated off the quick game,
Speaker 1: which they're not good at. So it gets a little
Speaker 1: sluggish a little bit.
Speaker 3: And a lot of misopportunities. You got to realize the
Speaker 3: Mark Recoop is leading the league and drops with six Yeah,
Speaker 3: he has dropped a lot of balls, yes, two like,
Speaker 3: so it's a miss opportunities in there while they trying
Speaker 3: to push the ball down the field. They had a
Speaker 3: seventy yarder call back last week for somebody holding on
Speaker 3: the offensive line. So even that offensive line that dominated
Speaker 3: the league last year, it's kind of deteriorating in front eye.
Speaker 4: They missing the ring game Chubb, you know, Chubb hasn't
Speaker 4: been back there, and that's he starts practicing this week.
Speaker 4: Those are some of the things that will slow a
Speaker 4: lot of that stuff down, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean, you're thinking about it. Amari Cooper six drops.
Speaker 4: He's been for show hands fought since he's been in
Speaker 4: the league. So that goes to show you the frustration
Speaker 4: that has built up in his office because the things
Speaker 4: not clicking, you know what I mean. He got the
Speaker 4: receivers thinking too much dropping balls. You you got the
Speaker 4: lineman doing dumb stuff bringing you know, bringing plays back.
Speaker 4: So when you see corruption like that and you see
Speaker 4: players gain, you know, diminishing a little bit, you know,
Speaker 4: to say the least, that's because it's a lot of
Speaker 4: confusion going on, and then these guys are not you know,
Speaker 4: on one accord.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just there and he's got you know, DeShawn
Speaker 1: has this kind of long game throw. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: really does not suit itself to quick game. And I
Speaker 1: really feel like Dorsey's trying to fit a square Pegan
Speaker 1: when I'm watching it. And again you mentioned the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Fred Like, they've got Dwan Jones, who was one of
Speaker 1: the better tackles in football last year. So he's struggling
Speaker 1: now because they're dropping back every single play right and
Speaker 1: they're asking them in a block in space. Zitler, zach
Speaker 1: ZiT Zitler, Zittler, Zeitler. Zeitler's how you say same? Zeitler, Zeitler.
Speaker 1: He's a rookie guard. He's the worst great offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: All these guys that played well last year, none of
Speaker 1: them are above fifty percent on the offensive line. And
Speaker 1: they were all in the seventies last year. Yeah, they are.
Speaker 1: It's it last year's team here in Washington. That is
Speaker 1: what they're doing there. It's they've leveraged him too much.
Speaker 1: They put too much on them. From a protection standpoint,
Speaker 1: they're struggle busting. They are still capable of explosive plays,
Speaker 1: but they just haven't quite figured it out. So for me,
Speaker 1: I look at defensively and offensively. We talked about we
Speaker 1: got to do subscreens. But defensively, like what's the key?
Speaker 3: Make them one dimensional? You just say it. They are
Speaker 3: tearble throwing team. They likes to throw.
Speaker 1: Make them so let them. Let them keep throwing they do.
Speaker 1: Let them throw the.
Speaker 3: Ball and maybe we get our first interception of the year.
Speaker 3: Let them throw the ball and maybe Deshaun Watson to
Speaker 3: give us this game with turnovers, fumbles misplaced. Let them
Speaker 3: throw the ball so the run pain umscroll the rest
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 2: Guys can get their pass rush going.
Speaker 3: Stop them early on first down, make them second and
Speaker 3: loan and make them throw the ball. And it guess
Speaker 3: what the office can help that defense by starting fast,
Speaker 3: getting ten points and now they forced to throw the ball.
Speaker 5: Anyway, Let Washington be washing.
Speaker 4: I think one of the things that Washington did best
Speaker 4: is the ab living part of it and taking those
Speaker 4: shots down.
Speaker 5: Phil put the pressure on you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean, See if he's gonna see how
Speaker 4: can how how rattle is he right now?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? It's something going on there,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know. It's from the time.
Speaker 2: Is the love the brother loved aspect.
Speaker 3: The one thing about quarterbacks they all love from the
Speaker 3: time we in.
Speaker 5: Junior high to another brother no no, no.
Speaker 2: No, they love since we.
Speaker 1: Up, but brother love.
Speaker 3: They all loved since we've been in high school. They
Speaker 3: always did figurehead. And for the first time we got
Speaker 3: a quarterback. This pay generationally, this hate it and he
Speaker 3: don't know how to I think he don't know how
Speaker 3: to play through it. Like a quarterback. We hate it
Speaker 3: all the time. We have to play through these situations.
Speaker 3: Quarterback's not so much. I think mentally he's beat up.
Speaker 1: And definitely a different Cleveland team than they've been. Like
Speaker 1: they were a team that's built around running football, play
Speaker 1: action pass. They just haven't been that. And so I
Speaker 1: think I think to your point, Fred, like let him
Speaker 1: throw the football, let's play good coverage, and like they
Speaker 1: have some playmakers, but the guy back there that matters
Speaker 1: is not overly comfortable. The offensive line is not overly comfortable.
Speaker 1: So like John Doran, you're gonna you're going against a rookie.
Speaker 1: Let's beat that guy up a little bit. Let's rush
Speaker 1: the edge here, Let's let's create some pressure. Let's get
Speaker 1: him uncomfortable. And I think you can win this football
Speaker 1: game because you know, unlike Washington, they are also in
Speaker 1: a ton a ton of third and long situations because
Speaker 1: they have an incomplete pass on first down, they try
Speaker 1: to do a draw run that loses to and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they're in third and thirteen.
Speaker 2: Seeing when launch did?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, a defensive mendd this week against big Paris.
Speaker 1: What's he going again, Kelvin Beacham beat him?
Speaker 2: I want him against dan Os.
Speaker 3: I want I want to line him up and say
Speaker 3: you whip his head for four quarters.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, so yeah, we're really excited. I think
Speaker 1: it'll be a really interesting tense test for the offense.
Speaker 1: I think the defense it feels like they could keep
Speaker 1: some of this momentum versus this Cleveland offense. But that
Speaker 1: leads us very nicely into our next segment, which is
Speaker 1: hell yeah.
Speaker 2: Or hell no.
Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the first one. All right,
Speaker 1: jayde and Daniels will have three t ds in this
Speaker 1: home game versus Cleveland. He'll yes, yes, yes, hell yes,
Speaker 1: because he got.
Speaker 2: He could either run for two and throw one. He
Speaker 2: could throw two and one one. He could throw three,
Speaker 2: three touchdowns for him right now. I know this is
Speaker 2: a good defense. I know this is a good defense.
Speaker 3: So I feel like we're gonna have some some loan drive,
Speaker 3: so we're gonna mess around to be like.
Speaker 2: A third and goal at the four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he'll get in this crime Daniels time, right,
Speaker 3: tell ya he yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah yeah. I think they're cooking. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, hell yeah, yeah we fris greeze. Hell y'all,
Speaker 1: all right, Miles Garrett will not have a sack? Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: hell not, hell no, come on, man, you don't think.
Speaker 5: He's gonna have a say know what I'm saying. You're
Speaker 5: saying I think he is here?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So it's it's it's weirdly were
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett will not not have a sack.
Speaker 3: So I say, hell no, he probably gonna get it, Like,
Speaker 3: come on, man, that's why he'll know he gonna get
Speaker 3: a sack.
Speaker 5: But I mean, like he finds his way around a.
Speaker 1: Guy, but over the front again, the different defenses, different
Speaker 1: pass rushes.
Speaker 4: Even the garbage get a steak and he ain't garbage.
Speaker 5: He gonna get hes, gonna get.
Speaker 3: It is that's okay though, it's okay for him to
Speaker 3: get Ain't nobody say if he get two sex were
Speaker 3: gonna lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, so hell yeah, hell hell no, hell no,
Speaker 1: I'll go hell not too. I think watching him, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's impressive to mean specially, he's impressive. And the coffee.
Speaker 1: Oh John, but if you know, if you run the
Speaker 1: ball a little bit quick games, I don't know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say. I'm say, hell no, I don't think he
Speaker 1: gets the sack. Let's up.
Speaker 2: We'll see next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll check, We'll check the receipts. All right, Brian's
Speaker 1: Ryan Robinson will score his first home rushing touchdown.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell year of breaking all negative trends,
Speaker 3: all negative trees will be broken. Brian Robinsons goes his
Speaker 3: first home touchdown this year.
Speaker 1: This one, this one was wild.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that they noticed by now. Somebody gotta
Speaker 4: notice on and that like someone has to know this
Speaker 4: is what's.
Speaker 2: Going probably running back coaching Vans and saying you know what,
Speaker 2: you he never scored.
Speaker 4: It gets what they're gonna say. You're gonna get three
Speaker 4: on the first times going at home. We're gonna get
Speaker 4: you three.
Speaker 5: Let's go, and they're gonna help my fantasy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten tds. You're all on the road. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: the wild.
Speaker 3: That mean he does well when everything is against him,
Speaker 3: back against the wild.
Speaker 1: But I mean also it just speaks to kind of
Speaker 1: how we're the off run.
Speaker 2: The ball, running the ball for three times?
Speaker 1: He ran it two times. Yes, So I'm say, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: that seems like something, especially with how committed Cliffs been
Speaker 1: to it. They're gonna get that taken care of. All right,
Speaker 1: this is maybe my favorite hell yeah, hell notck question
Speaker 1: of the day. The fans will be the difference maker
Speaker 1: at It's not it's not Fed extrasen.
Speaker 2: It's the Fed, the Fed house, the FED house.
Speaker 5: Yes, hell yeah.
Speaker 2: The fan watched them take over Temple. I watched them
Speaker 2: take over a zone.
Speaker 1: Dude, that was cool in Arizona.
Speaker 2: What I'm telling you so in this house, I'm looking
Speaker 2: for it to rued.
Speaker 4: All I have to say is you should have been there, Fred,
Speaker 4: You wasn't there.
Speaker 5: I saw from TV and.
Speaker 2: I see y'all smiling by I'm just talking.
Speaker 5: About the fans.
Speaker 4: We we had a we had a we did our podcast,
Speaker 4: the commands in the podcast, I guess you could say
Speaker 4: Game Day Live podcast.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Saturday Night CYD one of the rallies.
Speaker 4: It was five hundred Commanders fans in this restaurant backyard
Speaker 4: called backyard.
Speaker 5: They took over the town. And now you might thought
Speaker 5: that was a sight.
Speaker 4: The next day at that stadium, yeah, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: you saw.
Speaker 5: It fro on our sideline was Commander's.
Speaker 3: I saw video fan video of them showing we then
Speaker 3: took over yourselves.
Speaker 4: It was I thought it was most of them that
Speaker 4: just traveled a lot of fans up.
Speaker 2: There was everywhere. Arizona's everywhere.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of them in Arizona.
Speaker 4: I met so many Native Americans, Navajo, Cherokee. I showed
Speaker 4: the guy my mirror on my leg. I told him
Speaker 4: that my folks are Cherokee, and like they were just
Speaker 4: talking about the name by how much, you know, they
Speaker 4: wish that we could go back.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, hey, look we got living the now.
Speaker 5: But it was just great and it was from Arizona.
Speaker 5: They were Arizona. It was just great to see. Man.
Speaker 5: So yeah, hell yeah, the fans gonna yeah.
Speaker 1: And hopefully they come out and this thing is because again, man,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to see something special. It feels like
Speaker 1: something special is happening that.
Speaker 4: Week with Jaden Man, he has that he has that
Speaker 4: effect too. I mean he's shown right now today he
Speaker 4: much the TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and so that's gonna do it for today's show. Also,
Speaker 1: we got some news fred I love news. Yeah. People
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Speaker 5: We didn't win.
Speaker 1: We didn't win it, but.
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Speaker 5: Happen more figured I would take yeah, because.
Speaker 1: Tenn doesn't like moral victories, but he likes this one.
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