1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History class from how 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm Katie Lambert and I'm fair Dowdy, and I am 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: one of those people who really really loves babies. Molly 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: of stuff. Mom never told you said that. Whenever we 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: go out to lunch or dinner and I get really 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: distracted and start smiling at someone behind her, she knows 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: it's a baby and not a guy. So of course 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: I would love a baby king. And we're not talking 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: about the kind do you find in your kingcake either, 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: And our topic is sandwich somewhere in between Peter the 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: Great and Catherine the Great, and we have this infant 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: who has been chosen to rule Russia. But if you 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: are starting to get a growing sense of unease here 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: because our royal children so often have terrible faith, you 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: are right on track. So who is this ab He 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: is Ivan the sixth, also known as Ivan Antonovich, born 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: in August seventeen forty. His parents are Prince anton Ulrich, 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: who's a nephew of Holy Roman Emperor Charles the sixth, 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: and Anna Leopoldovna. So he has rather illustrious beginnings and 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: that's because Anna, his mother, is also the niece of 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: Empress Anna Ivanovna, who is one of four very important 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: women in our story, and that is Anna Leopoldovna, Anna Ivanovna, 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: and Elizabeth Petrovna by Katherine the second, the one who 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: everybody knows, I'm sure, And so this is just our 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: major group of Russian political women in this story, and 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: try to keep track of all of their very similar names. 28 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: He's born into Anna's court, and she was Ivan the 29 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: fifth daughter and Peter the great niece. And as a 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: side note, Ivan the fifth is an interesting man in 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: his own right. He was ruler only in name because 32 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: he was plagued by several illnesses, and his sister Sophia 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: was the real power behind the throne. But in our story, 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Anna had become ruler in seventeen thirty. She was elected 35 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: by the Supreme Privy Council, but the council tried to 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: limit her power and take more of it for their own. 37 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: But there were three entities opposing this Anna herself, of course, 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: the Imperial guards and the lesser nobility, because changing power 39 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: from an autocracy to an oligarchy disadvantage them. If you 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: know the power is spread out. That means there are 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: more obstacles to the ruler, more people who you have 42 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: to bribe and court their favor. You can't just go 43 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: to the queen's main folks, and that means you may 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: have trouble ascending to the position of power you so 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: dearly desire. So Anna gets rid of the Privy Council altogether. 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: That's one way to do away with that problem. And 47 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: she banishes and executes a few of them, I don't 48 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: a few of her detractors. So she gives most of 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: the power of her court to Earnst Johann Burne, who 50 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: is her favorite guy, and restores the secret police under 51 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: his command. So he's her her number two. Essentially. He 52 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: may have been Anna's favorite, but he was not a 53 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: favorite with anyone else. He was Baltic German instead of 54 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: Russian Russian, and he has a reputation for being very 55 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: cruel and corrupt. Enemies of the administration were banished, beheaded, 56 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: and tortured, and the general impression was that his police 57 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: force watched out for the Germans and punished the Russians, 58 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: which did not endear him to the Russian And most 59 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: of Anna's favorites are Baltic Germans anyway, so it's doubly 60 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: bad almost because you have so many of these people 61 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: in positions of power. It serves as an obstacle for 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: anyone else to get access to the empress too, and 63 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: her rule was not particularly popular for some other reasons. 64 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: She levied very heavy taxes, she liked humiliating nobles in 65 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: front of the court, and she was rather an extravagant 66 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: spender on as far as clothes and gambling goes, which 67 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: again they the poorer people don't enjoy if you remember 68 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: the story of Marie and well, aside for her for 69 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: clothes and humiliating nobles to she does get involved in 70 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: the War of Polish succession and she attacks Turkey, so 71 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: other less endearing quality. So in short, people are very disgruntled. 72 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: They don't much like their empress, and some of course 73 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: blame the fact that she's a woman on the country's problem. 74 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: So there's a sense of growing troubles for our empress here. 75 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: So she must decide on a successor, and she didn't 76 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: have children, But what about her great nephew, Ivan Antonovich 77 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Baron or Ivan's mother could serve as regent And it's 78 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: a good thing that she picks him when she does 79 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: because she dies in October seventeen forty, Ivan the sixth 80 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: is two months old and he has the throne. So 81 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Burren is initially a pointed regent, but he's very quickly 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: overthrown by other members of the German clique and sent 83 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: off to Siberia, as so often happens. And the men 84 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: who overthrow him aren't that much better though. They're just 85 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: as unpopular with everybody else, and they don't even stick together. 86 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: Their German click is not very much a click because 87 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: there's a lot of infighting and it here have we 88 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: learned about in fighting it weakens your government, Yeah, definitely. 89 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: So Anna Leopoldovna takes the reins and she's Evan's mother again. Yes, 90 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: So to keep all these gandas straight, she takes the power, 91 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: the power of the regent. But she's actually pretty out 92 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: of touch with her people as well, and her foreign 93 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: policies are unpopular. She too favors the Baltic Germans, so 94 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: it just seems like more of the same. So we 95 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: have an unhappy people, a baby ruler, his mother, the 96 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: unpopular regent, and in infighting type of government. It's time 97 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: for an uprising, So how about Elizabeth petrovnaw So, Elizabeth 98 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: has an even more illustrious background than our young Ivan. 99 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: Here she's Peter the Great's daughter with Catherine the First, 100 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: and people like her so much. She's really smart, she's lovely, 101 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: she's very Russian, as Katie would say, she's Russian Russian, 102 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: and she's Peter the Great's daughter, So I mean, what 103 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: more can you ask for? And she wasn't very politically 104 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: involved until this rule of Annelia Puldovna and then her 105 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: eyes on the prize. This is her chance, if she's 106 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: ever to have one. The high officials support her, as 107 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: do the guards and plenty of foreign diplomats. So we 108 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: begin a palace conspiracy and there is a coupdita in 109 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: seventeen forty one in which she overthrows Ivan the sixth 110 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: and Annaliah Puldovna with the help of the guards after 111 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: less than a year of rule, waking them up in 112 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: the middle of the night and arresting them. Elizabeth is 113 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: now the empress. So after the coup, the family and 114 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: their advisors are arrested and the family is imprisoned at 115 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: the fortress of Riga. They're actually exiled to Koma Gory. 116 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: But just because they're far away, it doesn't mean that 117 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: they've been forgotten. And in December set one, the new 118 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: government demands the return of coins minted with Ivan the 119 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Six is the figurehead, promising new coins in return. But 120 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: what would you do if your government told you, maybe 121 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: sending all of your coins, and sure, we'll give you 122 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: new ones once we get yours. Understandably, a lot of 123 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: people hold on to their money, about two thousand roubles 124 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: worth of coins according to historians. Well and and they 125 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: a lot of them liked Ivan the Six. They liked 126 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: the idea, the promise of who he was supposed to be, 127 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: and they wanted to hold on to that. They continue 128 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: to hold on to this idea that perhaps he will 129 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: come back and he will take over this throne. As 130 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: as popular as Elizabeth grew to be, he was still 131 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: in the hearts as many Russians right in the heat 132 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: of things too. Of course, so life goes on for 133 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: the exiled royal family too, and Anna actually has more 134 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: children in exile before she dies in March of seventeen 135 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: forty six, and these kids are eventually released because of 136 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: course they're not so closely tied to the throne as 137 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: Ivan is. Although they always stayed not secluded, but in 138 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: their own kind of private a bit reclusive court. Because 139 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: they grew up in exile, he's never quite had that 140 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: uh socialization that they should have when they were little. 141 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Life doesn't exactly go on for Ivan. He's taken from 142 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: his family at four years old and he never saw 143 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: them again. For most of his life, he was entirely 144 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: isolated in solitary confinement under very strict guard. He was 145 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: sent to Schlisselburg Fortress in seventeen fifty six and there 146 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: he would remain for the rest of his life. His 147 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: jailers weren't even allowed to talk to him. It was 148 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: said he only saw sunlight twice in his time there. 149 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: Although it maybe a bit of a dramatic flourish to 150 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: our story. So imagine what he must have been like, 151 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: raised for twentysomething years in prison, from the time he 152 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: was a little boy, without his family, without communication, without 153 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: anything to do. I imagine him being a bit of 154 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: a of a shell of a human being. He never 155 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: got to that development. Yeah, well, we have a kind 156 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: of a historical idea of what it could be like 157 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: from our Katherine de Medici podcast and her husband. At 158 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: least he has his brother, though, but the two of 159 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: them emerged from prison totally shattered, really sullen boys, and 160 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: they don't even spend their whole lives growing up in 161 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: prison like Ivan. And in the meantime, Elizabeth has died, 162 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Peter the Third has taken over and then was mysteriously killed, 163 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: and then Catherine the Great has become the ruler, and 164 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: Elizabeth kept him in prison so long because of course 165 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: he was this this symbol, a possibility of a return 166 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: to something else, an idea that people held onto, and 167 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: Catherine the Great feels the same way. He's He's always 168 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: been a threat, even when he's locked up. In July 169 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: seventeen sixty four, Ivan is killed by his guards with 170 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: sabers and bannets, something we probably could have seen coming 171 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: this whole podcast, and they had been ordered to slay 172 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: him if there was ever an escape attempt at the prison, 173 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: and someone, a lieutenant Mirovich, tries to free him, and 174 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: so this plan goes into action, and there are two 175 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: theories about Mirovich's attempt, though. One is he thought that 176 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: if he could get Ivan out, they could unseat Katherine 177 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: the second, who had gotten the throne in seventeen sixty two, 178 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: so it would be starting a mutiny, starting a a 179 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: second coup. The second theory, though, is that Ivan was 180 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: murdered on Katherine the Great's orders. She knew full well 181 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: the orders of the prison that if anyone tried to 182 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: free the young prince, anything like that happened when she 183 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: reinforced them. She made it sure that again, if there 184 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: was any sort of escape attempt any kind, you're supposed 185 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: to kill him. So in that case, this would be 186 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: a politically motivated assassination. With Mirovich under Katherine's control. People 187 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: had already thought that perhaps Catherine had had Peter the 188 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: Third killed, and there were many who thought she was 189 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: also responsible for Ivan's death. It made her very unpopular 190 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: in parts of Europe, and she was even called the 191 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: devil in a diadem by a prime minister. Ivan the 192 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: sixth was buried in a secret place and then his 193 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: grave destroyed, but his legend lived on because the story 194 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: of the sad little ruler locked away for life on 195 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: the orders of two powerful women, And how could that 196 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: not mean something? It sounds like a really scary fairy tale, 197 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: And of course people persist in believing that he's really 198 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: alive and would return sometime. Again reminds us of our 199 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: Romanov's episode This This podcast keeps on throwing back to 200 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: earlier ones, but the Romanov keep on people keep on 201 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: believing in them. And of course i'vean the sixth was 202 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: just this political pawn again with our theme of how 203 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: unfortunate it is to be born a royal child. He 204 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: spends his infancy in a crown and the rest of 205 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: his whole short life in a prison, and all because 206 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,359 Speaker 1: of what he symbolized and how many times we explore 207 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: this idea in the podcast. And while we were researching 208 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: this podcast, we did get much more intrigued by the 209 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: story of our possibly murderous Catherine the Great, so get 210 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: ready for a podcast on her. 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