1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: The following podcast contains explicit descriptions of violence, including sexual violence, 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: that some listeners may find upsetting. Continue at your own risk. 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: My name might have been, my name has never was. 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: That's a lyric from the nineteen ninety eight Whole song 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: Celebrity Skin. It's also the opening line of a letter 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: I recently received in the mail. Here it is in 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: its entirety, My dearest Courtney, my name is might have 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: been ben My name is never name as never was? 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: Why because you stole my name and leave it to 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: someone else? Oh, Courtney, it's been so long. I saw 11 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: a video of one of your most recent lectures online, 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: and time has not been kind to you, is it? 13 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: You're one school to name, air is now gray. You're 14 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: once kerky breasts now sag almost to your navel, and 15 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: you must now hide those pretty blue eyes behind horn 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: rimmed glasses. 17 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: But you're not alone. 18 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: When I look in the mirror, I almost don't recognize 19 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: the old man looking think at me, what has become 20 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: of us? I was inspired to reach out to you 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: one more time for reasons of my own that I 22 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: will not disclose to you, but suffice to say I 23 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: miss you. I miss you so much, but I am 24 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: also angry with you. You profited off my work while I 25 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: never got. 26 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: Any recognition at all. 27 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: I suppose there is solace in the fact that another 28 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: man is in prison for my so called crimes, but 29 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 2: there's an unsatisfying element to it, like fucking without rusting 30 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: a nut. 31 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: Fun sure, but incomplete. Maybe, my dear Courtney, We're not 32 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: done after all. 33 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: Maybe you can bring anything this full circle. Who knows, 34 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: you might even get another book out of it. Come 35 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: back to Domino Beach, Courtney, come home. 36 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: I'll be waiting for you with love. 37 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: DBK the real Domino Beach Killer. I'm Courtney Barnes and 38 00:02:49,360 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: this is the Murder Years, Episode eight, Celebrity skin. Okay, 39 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: so there's a lot to unpack there. This letter came 40 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: to me in the mail in the fall of twenty 41 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: twenty three. I read it once, then again, then a 42 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: third and fourth time. I compared it to the original 43 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: letters I received in fall of nineteen ninety four and 44 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: spring of nineteen ninety five. Style is the same, the 45 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: handwriting is the same. All three letters could easily have 46 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: been written by the same person, but scans of the 47 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: original letters have been online for years, often in side 48 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: by side comparisons to the Zodiac Killers letters to police 49 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: or the Unibomber's manifesto, they wouldn't be hard to copy. 50 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: It's not the first time someone has tried to scare me. 51 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: When your name is forever linked to a serial killers, 52 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: you're an easy target for disturbed minds with twisted senses 53 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: of humor. My initial reaction was to dismiss this letter 54 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: as some sick bastard's idea of a joke, But lying 55 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: awake in bed night after night, some just kept needling 56 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: at me. First of all, the author's choice of song 57 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: lyrics and the lead singer of the band Hole was 58 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Courtney Love. Not only do I share a first name 59 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: with her, but she was married to Kurt Cobain, who 60 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: wrote the lyrics Polly Wants a Cracker that were painted 61 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: near the body of the first victim via Kendrick in 62 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. I tried, but I couldn't shake the 63 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: feeling that there might be something to this. That's why 64 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: I decided to do this podcast. My book All Fall Down, 65 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: The Story of the Domino Beach Murders, was published in 66 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. For over a year, I traveled the country, 67 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: doing book signings, sitting on panels, and appearing on talk shows. 68 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: When things settled down, I chose not to return to 69 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: Domino Beach or even California. Instead, I bounced around the 70 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: Northeast for a while before settling in Connecticut, where I 71 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: eventually quit writing and started teaching journalism at a community college. 72 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: I hadn't set foot in Domino Beach in twenty five years. 73 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: A few months ago, two weeks after I received that letter, 74 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: I flew into Lax, rented a car, and made the 75 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: hour long drive south to the place where my career 76 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: began and so many lives ended. It's weird being back here. 77 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Fuels abandoned, the ferris wheel and roller coaster on the 78 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: boardwalk are quiet and rusted. The once pristine beaches are 79 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: littered with trash and homeless encampments, hotels and resorts have closed, 80 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: and the multimillion dollar homes have fallen into disrepair. Surfers 81 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: still come here because one thing that hasn't changed is 82 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: the waves, but it's no longer a tourist destination, sparely 83 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: even a town anymore. As I was prepping for the 84 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: interviews I wanted to do for this podcast, I looked 85 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: everyone up for the first time in ages. Connor Langford 86 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: was easy to find, Still serving two consecutive life sentences 87 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: in California State Prison in Los Angeles County, the prison 88 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: van Connor made it easy for me to interview him 89 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: over the phone several times. Connor's father, former Domino Beach 90 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: City councilman, Greg Langford, lost his bid for reelection the 91 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: year after his son was convicted. He and his wife 92 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: sold their home and moved to Texas, where he served 93 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: as a campaign advisor to various politicians until he died 94 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: of a heart attack in twenty eleven. Damon Stokes was 95 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: re elected sheriff of Del Soul County every cycle until 96 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: he retired in twenty fifteen and moved to nearby La Joya. 97 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: I did my interview with him in his home over 98 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: the course of two afternoons. Only Maya Morales still lives 99 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: in Domino Beach, where she cares for her invalid mother. 100 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: I did my interview with her at her office. She's 101 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: a broker in the last real estate agency still operating 102 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: in Domino Beach. In the four hours I spent with her, 103 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: not one client came in and the phone owned rang twice. 104 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: Here's Maya now with more on the evidence that proved 105 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: critical in sealing Connor Langford's fate. 106 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I get why he was so easy to convict. 107 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: The letters you got from the killer were written on 108 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: the paper. 109 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: I bought myself, identified by the faulty watermark and stored 110 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: at Connor's band's rehearsal space, which. 111 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: By the way, a lot of people had access to, 112 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: not just Connor, who else, well a lot of Okay, 113 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: here's what I think. And at the time I told 114 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: Sheriff Stokes and anyone else who would listen what I'm 115 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: about to tell you, but I always got waved off. 116 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: Go way, stupid girl, know what I mean? 117 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, yes I do. Go on. 118 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: Okay, First, the door to the rehearsal space was locked 119 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: by one of those number thingies, you know, like the 120 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: little metal buttons right under the knob and you have 121 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: to press in the right code. 122 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: Well, they they weren't exactly. 123 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: Super careful with who they gave that code to, and 124 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: it wasn't hard to guess either. 125 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: What was it? Four twenty? 126 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: Of course it was easy to remember, though, right. 127 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: So you're suggesting someone else use that code to get 128 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: to the paper and what frame Connor. 129 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: I'm just saying there were like at least a dozen 130 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 4: or so other guys who had access to the rehearsal space, 131 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: and anyone who went in there used that paper to 132 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 4: work out said lists, write songs, sketch out tattoos they 133 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: wanted to get it, roll joints, whatever. People grab stocks 134 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: of it. 135 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: No one cared. 136 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 4: So sometime in it must have been late nineteen ninety three, 137 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: Connor and Brody started looking for a new bass player 138 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 4: because the guy that they'd been using went off to college. 139 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: And I bought that paper in like January or February 140 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: of nineteen ninety four. 141 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: Okay, do you know what a pain. 142 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 5: In the ass? 143 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 4: Con was? 144 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: Back then? 145 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: They went through at least seven or eight bass players 146 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 4: before Brody decided to move to Seattle and kill the 147 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: band off for good. 148 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: And you think one of these bass players. 149 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: I think it's way more likely it was one of 150 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: them than Connor. 151 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Do you know their names? 152 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 6: No? 153 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 4: Connor and I started having our troubles early on in 154 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four, and I wasn't coming around so much. 155 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: But you didn't break up until February of nineteen ninety five. 156 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: A year later. 157 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: Well that was when I caught him cheating and ended it, 158 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 4: you know. 159 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: For real real. 160 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: But Connor and I had broken up and gotten back 161 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: together like a million times over the years. It was 162 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: kind of like our thing anyway. I'm telling you, if 163 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: you want to find out anything new, you got to 164 00:09:46,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: go look into those bass players. If you want to 165 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: find out anything new, you gotta go look into those 166 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: bass players. 167 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 7: We did. 168 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: You probably know by now. That's Damon Stokes, retired sheriff 169 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: of Delsaul County and the lead law enforcement official in 170 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: the investigation of the Domino Beach killer. 171 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 5: It turned up nothing. You have to understand. Maya Morales 172 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 5: is just as much a victim of Connor Langford as 173 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: any of the people he killed. He used her, he 174 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 5: manipulated her. 175 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: I stood by someone I cared for. I chose not 176 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: to believe all the lies that were being said about him. 177 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: That makes me a victim. 178 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: Fuck him. 179 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 4: I am nobody's victim. And maybe he called the couple 180 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: of those bass players, but I know for a fact 181 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 4: that he did not look into them hard. By that time. 182 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: He was all in on Connor. And if it turned 183 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: out to be so someone else, it just would have 184 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 4: made him look stupid. 185 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 5: I would have been thrilled if the killer was anyone 186 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 5: other than Connor Langford. I was risking my livelihood by 187 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 5: charging him. But all the evidence pointed to Connor. I 188 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 5: know it's difficult for Miss Morales to accept, but you 189 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: know it's true. 190 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, Maya's whole the bass player did it. Theory never 191 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 8: really gained much traction. Even my own lawyer didn't buy 192 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 8: into it. 193 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: That's Connor Langford talking to me from California State Prison. 194 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 8: The thing was in ninety four. I was starting to 195 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 8: use drugs pretty heavily, and Maya and I were fighting 196 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 8: all the time. I just didn't pay much attention to 197 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 8: the guys coming in and out of. 198 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 7: The rehearsal space. That was Brodie's thing. He was more 199 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 7: on top of it than I was. 200 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: Brody Hanigan, your friend and the drummer in your band. 201 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 7: By then, friend was stretching it. 202 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 8: He was already starting to get fed up with me, 203 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 8: and he moved to Seattle in October that year. 204 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: In court, Brody leaving Domino Beach was cited as a 205 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: reason why you became sloppy, like in the failed abduction 206 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: of Angela Bowers. 207 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 8: And if I really was the killer, that would have 208 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 8: been true. I was really bummed when he left. 209 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Brody never wanted to talk 210 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: to me about you. I tried to interview him back 211 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: when I was writing my book. 212 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 8: Which is complete bullshit by the way, covered a fucking cover. Sorry, 213 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 8: but it has to be said, even if you'll probably 214 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 8: edit this out. 215 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 7: Okay. 216 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I also tried to get Brody to take part in 217 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: this podcast, but he never returned any of my calls. 218 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 8: Look, Brody, like I said, we weren't on the best 219 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 8: of terms when he quit the band and left town. 220 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 7: And then he believed it. 221 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 8: Okay, he believed everything they said about me, and I 222 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 8: bet he still does. He thinks I killed Vera, and look, 223 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 8: he had a thing for her when they accused me 224 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 8: of her murder. Maya tried contacting him up in Seattle, 225 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 8: trying to convince him to come be a character witness 226 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 8: in my defense. 227 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 7: You know, he told her to tell me to rotten hell. 228 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: That must have been hard being abandoned by a friend 229 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: like that. 230 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 7: He had his reasons to hate me. 231 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 8: I mean, he may be the one who left town, 232 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 8: but I was the one who really broke up the band. 233 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 7: I was a dick. 234 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really sad when all this started. They 235 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: were like best friends. 236 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: Have you talked to him since m not in a 237 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: long long time. You should, though I tried. You won't 238 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: talk to me. 239 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,239 Speaker 9: You mean he won't take your calls or return them exactly. 240 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 9: Look way back when I was trying to get him 241 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 9: to come testify for Connor, he was doing the. 242 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: Same thing to me. So you know what I did. 243 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: I flew up there and I kind of ambushed him. 244 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: Did it work? 245 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: Well, he didn't come testify at the trial, but at 246 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: least he talked to me. He sat down, explained where 247 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 4: he was coming from. I mean that's all I could 248 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: really ask for. 249 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: Right, you're saying I should just go to Seattle and 250 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: just knock on his door. 251 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I haven't spoken to him in 252 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: at least ten years, but he's a nice guy. If 253 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: you show up, he's not gonna slam the door in 254 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: your face. I mean, I don't know that he'll agree 255 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: to be interviewed for your podcast, bye. 256 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: But it it's worth a try. Yeah, I decided Maya's right. 257 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: Brody Hanigan is still living in Seattle, still working in music, apparently, 258 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: he has his own business where he designs and hooks 259 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: up sound systems at clubs and small venues in support 260 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: of the latest crop of aspiring rock stars. I've been 261 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: back in Domino Beach for months now working on this podcast, 262 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: and I'm almost ready to get it out there, done 263 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: with my interviews recorded, my narration, and well, Brody seems 264 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: like he's the last thread there is to pull. So 265 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: I've booked a ticket to Seattle out of Lax for 266 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, and I'm going to take a page from 267 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: Maya's book and ambush him. I used to do this 268 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: sort of thing with difficult interview subjects back in the day, 269 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: but it's been a while though, so wish me luck. Okay, 270 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: check check check, check, okay, okay, you guys. So I'm 271 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: in a rental car parked at the curb on a 272 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: street in what appears to be pretty much a lower 273 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: middle class neighborhood in the suburbs of Seattle. I am 274 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: right outside the house of Broderick Brody Hanigan, which he's 275 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: been renting for the last sixteen years. Oh okay, no 276 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: time like the present. Oh okay. I'm putting my phone 277 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: in my purse with the voice memo app running. I 278 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: don't know if I can convince Brody to give me 279 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: an interview, but I want to be able to prove 280 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: to Maya that at least I tried. Okay, I am 281 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: walking down the driveway, passed a van with a microphone 282 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: logo and the words Hannigan's sound design stenciled on the side, 283 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: and I am up on the front porch ringing the 284 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: bell and okay, one more time, Brody Hanigan, Hello, anyone home? 285 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: Who is it, mister Hannigan. Hi, It's Courtney Barnes. I 286 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: contacted you a couple of weeks ago about a possible 287 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: interview with Connor Langford. 288 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: I said, I wasn't interested. 289 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Well, actually you never responded to my calls or emails, 290 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: so I wasn't sure you got them. I'm sorry, but 291 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm I guess you did. I don't know if you remember, 292 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: but I was also living in Domino Beach at the 293 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: time of the murders. I was writing for the. 294 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: I remember you newspaper reporter. 295 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's me. 296 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: You wrote a book too, write a long time ago. 297 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: Write again, and well, I'm I guess you could call 298 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing like a follow up kind of revisiting the 299 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: whole thing, checking in with all the players after all. 300 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: These years, and I'm one of the players. 301 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: Well, you were there at the start, weren't you. You 302 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: were with Connor when the body of the first victim vire. Uh? 303 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. It was bad enough to see her 304 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 3: like that. 305 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: She was. 306 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: I cared about her, and the. 307 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 10: Fact that Connor used me the way he did made 308 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 10: sure I was with him when we found her body. 309 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: I'll never forgive him. 310 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: I understand, and I can only imagine how traumatic look. 311 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 3: I have no interest in whatever this is. 312 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 10: I know Connor's always maintained his innocence and all, but 313 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 10: he's a fucking liar. 314 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: I know he did it. 315 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Well maybe we can talk a little bit 316 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: about what makes you so sure. I promise I will 317 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: not take up too much of your time, all right, 318 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: fuck it, come on in, Okay, great? Thank you? 319 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 6: Is it? 320 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: Okay? 321 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 10: If I record this and rather you didn't, I'll give 322 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 10: you a few minutes. But I don't want this on 323 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 10: the record or anything. 324 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I understand. 325 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: Have a seat. 326 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: Thanks, So if you don't mind, can I ask you 327 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: why you were so hesitant about speaking with me? 328 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? I recently got diagnosed with lung cancer stage three. 329 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Oh, I am so sorry. 330 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm probably not going to be around much longer. 331 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 10: So living in the past, digging up these bad memories 332 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 10: talking about them just feels like a waste of time. 333 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: I don't have, I understand. And again, I'm really sorry 334 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: to hear that. I'll be quick. 335 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: I already said, okay. 336 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay. The main thing I wanted to ask 337 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: you about is the period of time between say, April 338 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: and October nineteen ninety four. 339 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: October ninety four, that's when I moved up here. 340 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: And why did you leave Domino Beach. 341 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 10: Well, it was the nineties and I was a musician. 342 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 10: Seattle was the place to be. The band was going nowhere. 343 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 10: Connor's heart wasn't in it anymore at the time. I 344 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 10: didn't know he had, you know, other interests taking priority. Besides, 345 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 10: that wasn't long after those spring Break Girls got hacked up. 346 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 10: I had plenty of reasons to leave Domino Beach. What 347 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 10: I didn't have was a reason to stay. 348 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about your last few months there. You 349 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: and Connor were looking for a new bass player, right, yeah, yeah, we. 350 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: Were, man. We went through a ton of them. 351 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 10: Some were in a good fit, some didn't like the 352 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 10: way Connor was half assing the whole thing. 353 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: Some just, I don't know, just didn't work out for 354 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: whatever reason. 355 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm sure you remember. One of the key 356 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: pieces of evidence used against Connor was the paper mya 357 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: kept in your rehearsal space. It had a faulty watermark. 358 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so. 359 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: I was hoping to track down some or all of 360 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: the musicians who had access to your rehearsal space during 361 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: that time period. 362 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 10: Why, oh no, wait, let me guess Connor convinced you 363 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 10: the real killer is one of those guys, and he's 364 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 10: still out there right. 365 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: No, he didn't convince me. I just think it's worth 366 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: looking into. 367 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 10: But that's been this story for damn near thirty years. 368 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 10: Why did you suddenly decide it's worth looking into? 369 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: Now? 370 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: Well, let's just say new information has come to light. 371 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: What kind of new information? 372 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: I don't think that I can hold on. 373 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 10: You come to my home, uninvited, unannounced. I answer your questions. 374 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 10: You say you have new information that can mean the 375 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 10: guy who used to be my best friend isn't a 376 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 10: murderer after all, And you won't tell me. 377 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: What it is. 378 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, mister Hanigan, but. 379 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: Don't call me that. That's not my name. 380 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 381 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 6: My name is might have been. My name is might 382 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 6: have been. 383 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: Wait, don't my name is never lost. You still getting 384 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: right fucking to me? This feels right, doesn't it. I'm 385 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 3: not the only one dying of. 386 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 6: Cancer, am I? 387 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: I'm your cancer? Did you thirty years taking you over? 388 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: Killing me? 389 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: It's good about you get off me. 390 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: No, it had to end this way. We both knew 391 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: it all along. That's say look at me. I want 392 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: to see the light go out in those pretty eyes 393 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: of yours. It's okay. 394 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 6: Wherever you're going, I'll be following you there soon. And 395 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 6: it happened. 396 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: You had your moment, Courtney. It's my turn. 397 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: You are always going to be my last. 398 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 3: Goodbye, Courtney. 399 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 4: Hello, my name is Maya Morales. 400 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: What you just. 401 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 4: Heard was the final moment of Courtney Barnes's life. Apparently 402 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: she had set her phone up to automatically email her 403 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: voice memos to herself, which is how we were able 404 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 4: to hear that recording. It has been three months since 405 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: her brutal death, and after talking to everyone involved in 406 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 4: this podcast, it was decided that I should be the 407 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: one to finish it. So here we go. Welcome to 408 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: the epilogue. 409 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: The Ending. 410 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: After the Ending, Brody Hannigan was arrested two days later 411 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: outside of Vancouver, Canada. A motel clerk recognized him from 412 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: a news report and called the Mounties. He's currently being 413 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 4: extradited to the United States and has confessed to all 414 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 4: seven of the Domino Beach murders between nineteen ninety two 415 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: and nineteen ninety five, as well as the attempted abduction 416 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 4: of Angela Bauers in nineteen ninety four. He also confessed 417 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 4: to the murder of Courtney Barnes and sadly eight other 418 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: murders across the Pacific Northwest between nineteen ninety eight and 419 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. Based on Brodie's confession, the police and the 420 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 4: lawyers turned out to be right about almost everything except 421 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 4: for who the actual killer was. It all began one 422 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 4: night in nineteen ninety two, when Vera Kendrick rejected Brodie's advances. 423 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: He took by force which she wouldn't give him freely, 424 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 4: and then silenced her to protect himself. It was a horrible, 425 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 4: violent impulse that unfortunately awakens something inside of him. He 426 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: claims he tried to suppress it, but eventually it got 427 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 4: the better of him, so he went downtown and picked 428 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: up teenage hustler Billy Boyreeves, plied him with drugs, then 429 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: slit his throat. After that, he fell ready for what 430 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: would be the most ambitious crime yet, the murders of 431 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: Holly Blake and Sandra Gerard and the rape, murder and 432 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 4: mutilation of Mary Crouch. In April nineteen ninety four, things 433 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 4: got a little hot around here, so he decided it 434 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 4: was time to move on. But he didn't want the 435 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 4: murders to end with his departure from Domino Beach, so 436 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 4: he crept back a month later and attempted to abduct 437 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 4: Angela Bowers, who, as we know, managed to escape. He 438 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: came back two more times over the next year. On 439 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 4: his first visit, he saw what a mess Connor was 440 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: becoming and decided to try to set him up to 441 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: take the fall. He of course, knew the code to 442 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 4: the rehearsal space, which Connor was now using with his 443 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 4: new band. 444 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 6: In fact, the. 445 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 4: Second letter he sent to Courtney was written in the 446 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 4: rehearsal space. He saw they had black hole sun on 447 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: their set list, which inspired him to quote the lyrics. 448 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: A few days later, he killed my friend, my little brother, 449 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: Juan Gosas, hoping everyone would tie Connor to him through me, 450 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: and it worked. That was when Courtney said she started 451 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 4: to believe Connor was the killer. Brody made one more 452 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 4: trip to Domino Beach a few months later, in late 453 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five. He stole Connor's van, which was easy 454 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 4: since he knew Connor kept the keys in the visor, 455 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: then chose his final victim, Trudy Masterson. He had planned 456 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 4: to kill Courtney too, but after being spotted by homeless 457 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 4: woman Henrietta Jones, he abandoned that plan and left town. 458 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 4: But when Courtney showed up at his door thirty years later, 459 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 4: he finished the job. According to his oncologist, Brody Hannigan 460 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: has about two to three more months left to live. 461 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: I hope his death is long, slow, and painful. 462 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: As for the rest of us. 463 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 4: Damon Stokes, former sheriff of Del Soul County and lead 464 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: investigator in the Domino Beach murders, ended his involvement with 465 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 4: his podcast and issued a very lawyered statement about Courtney, Connor, 466 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: and Brody. It's kind of apologetic without admitting any fault 467 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 4: or taking any blame. Reading it here is not worth 468 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 4: my time or yours, but I understand his need to 469 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: express regret. After all, I'm the one who encouraged Courtney 470 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 4: to go to Brodie's house, and I'll have to live 471 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 4: with that for the rest of my life. Connor has 472 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: been released from prison, where he spent the last twenty 473 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: eight years. I suspect he will have a long adjustment 474 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: period ahead of him, and I plan to help him 475 00:27:53,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 4: in any way I can. Have you ever seen a 476 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 4: movie or read a story about like a dragon or 477 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 4: a monster that's terrorizing a medieval village and they have 478 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: to sacrifice people to keep the rest of the villager safe. Well, 479 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: Domino Beach had a monster like that, and it demanded 480 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 4: a hell of a sacrifice. Connor Langford had to give 481 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 4: up twenty eight years of his life and Courtney Barnes 482 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: had to make the ultimate sacrifice. But it worked. The 483 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 4: monster who terrorized our town has finally finally been vanquished. 484 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 4: The Murder Years in Domino Beach are over. 485 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: The Murder Years is a production of AYR Media and iHeartMedia. 486 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: Executive producer Elisa Rosen for AYR Media. Written by Tim Huddleston, 487 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: directed by Elisa Rosen. Editing and sound designed by Tristan Bankston. 488 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Consulting producer Jean Chandil coordinator Olive Goldberg. Audio engineering and 489 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: mastering by Justin Longerbean studio engineer Josh Hook. Original concept 490 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: developed in partnership with Anne Margaret Johns and Greg Spring. 491 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: Executive producer for iHeartMedia. Maya Howard. Performances for this episode 492 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: by Erica Leniac as Courtney Barnes, Tom Virtue as Sheriff, 493 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: Damon Stokes, Alex Salem as Connor Langford Melon Faxis as 494 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: Maya Morales, John Ralston Craig as Brodie Hannigan