1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: And not what your country can do for you and 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: what you can do for your country. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: We have to rise above challenges and find strength in 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: the midst of adversity. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: We are in a battle of good birth of evil. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 4: Satan is the father of confusion. I don't care what 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 4: they do to me. I'm going to keep calling them out. 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: They're berserk, trying to disarm Americans, and we need to 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: push back. 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 4: Glad you're fighting for America. 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 5: There's always hope. 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 6: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 6: the outsiders to change the world. 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. Hey, everybody, 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: welcome to faith and freedom. I'm Schamaine Nugent, joined by the. 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: White Master Alsome Dennis in the house Benison for everybody. 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Happy hunting season. Everyone you know. 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: Said, we are at the home stretch with the election 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: just a few days away. 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 4: And people are super stressed out. 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: But I think the best medicine for anxiety is laughter. 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: I'm a funny man. I used to hang out with 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Sam Kinnison, Robin Williams, Richard Pryor, and Rodney Dangerfield and 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: we went out to tie dinner in Los Angeles at 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: three in the morning, and guess who the funniest guy 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: there was me. They all wanted to handle my pistol. 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to touch my pistol. 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 5: He's the only guy with a pistol. 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of fake news you can trust? Yes? 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: I see it every day in all everywhere. 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: Well some of you can't trust, but. 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 5: All that you can trust. 33 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that you can trust. So this is the Babylon 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: be Me. They create satirical articles that are meant to 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: make you laugh, Like here's one progress Trump holds mostly 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: ethnically diverse pro Israel Nazi rally in history, or the 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Babylon Bee's Guide to Wokeness. 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 4: And I want to tell. 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: You more of out of joining us Live now is 40 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: the founder of Babylon b Joel Barry. 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: Joel, welcome, my goodness, Thanks for having me. It's I'm 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: kind of starstruck right now. I first discovered your music. 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 5: You are so good that you deserve me. I've decided 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: that you deserve. 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 7: Me because we are people. 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: By the way, this just in Ted NuGen is now 47 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: officially Caitlin Jenner's boy toy put that on the headline. 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: Well, I'm a millennial, so I was late coming to 49 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: your music. I first learned about it playing Guitar Hero 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: on Xbox while I was in Iraq, so that's how 51 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: That's how I learned about Ted Nicksit. 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: The Marines in Fallujah in two thousand and four. Pretty 53 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: intense experience. That's why I have to resort to absolute, outrageous, 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: irreverent humor to soothe my soul because I've seen the 55 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: ugliest of ugly, which, by the way, Joel, a salute 56 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: to you. Yes, you do. You give us sanctuary where 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: we are otherwise wallowing in the ugliest of ugly in 58 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: the world, So thank you. I had a bunk crop 59 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: of middle fingers this year, so if you're running short, 60 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: I can have may lifted into your dining room. 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 3: I appreciate that I might need him. 62 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: Joel. 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: I want to find out a little bit about you. 64 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: Did you read Mad Magazine as a child? You said 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: you're a millennial, But did you watch Monty Python Three Stooges? 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: How did you come up with this idea? 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: I grew up on Three Stooges and Monty Pythons, so 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 3: I always loved the slapstick stuff. I came from a 69 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: very sarcastic family, so if you could be a fly 70 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: on the wall during our Thanksgiving dinners, we're just roasting 71 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: each other. That's that's what we do the entire time. 72 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: So it's kind of always been a second language for me. 73 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: And I came from Evangelical Christianity, which is a very 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: funny subculture by itself. 75 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 7: And a lot of material to work with. 76 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in the future Priest. I was in 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: the Future Priest club at Saint Byder's High School. But 78 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: we went to the retreat to learn about period or layzone. 79 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: That boared the hell out of me. So I took 80 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: my dad's at eighteen ninety seven twelve gauge pump nine 81 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: hundred squirrels while the others were donning their funny little costumes. 82 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: So I'm right there I could inspire you. Which, by 83 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: the way, I still have Peerce Morgan's gulp issue in 84 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: the cleeges of my steel toed work boosts. Have you 85 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: ever seen that? That was funny When he tried to 86 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: take me, why trying to take ted nude and not 87 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: about the Second Amendment? It was like the Concord Bridge 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: all over eGain. It was awesome. 89 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: Not a good idea, never something you want to do No, 90 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: So how do you. 91 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: Come up with these headlines? What makes a good headline 92 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 4: for Bablon B. 93 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's becoming harder and harder because the world 94 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: is becoming more and more absurd. And our competition, I 95 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: always say, our competition isn't other news sites. Our competition 96 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: isn't other comedy sites or other comedians. Our competition is 97 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 3: just what the Democrats are doing each day. I mean, 98 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 3: it's really hard to top some of the absurdity that 99 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: we see. So what we're doing, I have an eight 100 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: or nine writers all around the country, part time writers. 101 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: We're kicking around ideas by the hundreds every day, choosing 102 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: the best ones we can and putting about evan or 103 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: eight of those up every day. 104 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: Joel, is not the greatest reward when you come up 105 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: with an absolute outrageous, ridiculous, mocking headline and people get 106 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: angry because they thought you meant it. 107 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 5: Is that not the ultimate reward? 108 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 7: Oh yeah? 109 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 4: Well. 110 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: One of my favorites was one that we did a 111 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: few years ago where we had Lebron James wearing a 112 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: lace collar to commemorate Ruth Bader Ginsberg's death, and it 113 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: was it was shared in New York and Paris fashion 114 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: circles because they believed it and they thought it was 115 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: so inspiring. And when you can not that, we're out 116 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: to trick people. But when people think it's real, because 117 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: the world is that absurd, it's kind of a good 118 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: indication that you're over the target as a satirist. 119 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 120 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: So, okay, I want to play a game with you. 121 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to create some headlines. Ted, now, are going 122 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: to create some headlines, and you let us know which 123 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: are real or fake? 124 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: You ready, let's do it? 125 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: Okay? All right? 126 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, when I first met Tremaine, she 127 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: said she didn't know any of my music and the 128 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: actually listened to disco. 129 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 5: Yet we got married. 130 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: So is that real? 131 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 7: Wow? 132 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: Opposites a tract? 133 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: What do you think? Is that real or fake? 134 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 3: I think that's real. 135 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 5: It is real. 136 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: Okay? How about this one? 137 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 8: Yeah? 138 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: I knew it once. 139 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: Wore a live badger on stage in Detroit in the 140 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: late nineteen seventies. 141 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 4: Real or fake? 142 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: It was during the feeding type came, no, No, I 143 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: don't understand. 144 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 4: It was really live. It was a live manager. 145 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: No. But people, no, people in the rock and roll 146 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: journalism world. I know that's a contradictory in terms, they 147 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: would just pose the dumbest statements about me. I did 148 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: you know a customer. We don't want to give away everything, 149 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: but I've done some really absurd stuff on stage. Because 150 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: if you're not being really crazy, then it's not real 151 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: rock and roll. So they make stuff up. And when 152 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: they make the most dumb stuff up in the world, 153 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: I go, yeah, that's true. 154 00:06:59,160 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: Okay, here's one. 155 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: Now, what's the classic line about journalism when the when 156 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 3: the legend becomes fact print the legend? Right, Yes, So. 157 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: What are the chances is this ruler fake? That Ted 158 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: actually rode a live buffalo on stage at the House 159 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: of Blues in Chicago. 160 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: That seems a little far fetched to me. I'm going 161 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: to go no on that one. 162 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: It is far which is why I did it. It 163 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: was a way her bowl, a two thousand pounds angry 164 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: bison bull between. I wrote it on stage, but I 165 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: went up the service elevator with chamade and our son Rocco, 166 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: where Rocco literally had the buffalo's acid his face and 167 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,559 Speaker 1: I had the buffalo's horns posed right at my face, 168 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: and then I got I straddled him and wrote him 169 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: on stage, Joel, it was a moment of infamine. You 170 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: got if you no matter what you think about me, 171 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: you have to love me for that. 172 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: I think you gotta you gotta look for the photos. 173 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, I. 174 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: Remember going up the elevator going this seems like a 175 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: bad idea. 176 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: With the buffalos. 177 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: I should have known better than to think anything. Anything 178 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: was too far fetched for you. Ted. 179 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so you started anti deep fake articles, and one 180 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: of my favorites is you're having Texans putting up billboards 181 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: in California telling everyone how terrible Texas is and how yeah, 182 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: you probably shouldn't move there. 183 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: Is that right? I think we lost them? Did we 184 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: lose them? 185 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 7: Oh? 186 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: I can hear you. You cut out for a long time. 187 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 3: There are You're still there? 188 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 4: Yep, we're still here. 189 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 7: But how sorry about it? 190 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: Born you from Texas telling people not to come to Texas. 191 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean that was brilliant. That was clever. 192 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 8: I think I think they might have done that. 193 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 5: If they didn't, they should do it. 194 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 7: They should. 195 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: That's one of those things where where you right the 196 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: headline and you're like, you know, this is actually kind 197 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: of a good idea. I really hope someone picks up 198 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 3: on this, So what's. 199 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: Next for you? Are you still going to be doing 200 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: this for the next five or ten years? Do you 201 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: have anything else on a hot ol. 202 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 8: The target rich environment coming up? 203 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: Real sort? I mean, you'll never run out of outrage. 204 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, all keep doing this as long as they let me. 205 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 7: We have. 206 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: We did our January sixth movie, it's called January sixth, 207 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: The Most Deadliest Day. We just released that. We have 208 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: our book coming out next month, The Babylon b Guide 209 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: to the Apocalypse. 210 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 7: So we're busy. 211 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: We have a few more movie ideas in the works, 212 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: and we expect a lot more insane material, you know, 213 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: gifted to us from the world and the culture that 214 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: we live in over the next four years. So if 215 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: we lose our platform, if we get kicked off a 216 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: big tech, we'll just we'll print it on paper and 217 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: we'll staple it to telephone polls around the country as 218 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: long as I'll let us. 219 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can come on my Real America Voice Spirit 220 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: Campfire at any time. Maybe have you as a guest 221 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: on our dead new Just the Wild TV show thirty 222 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: six years running. Are you in Texas right now, Joel. 223 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 7: I'm in Ohio. 224 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 3: I'm not far from my story. 225 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, we're neighbors. 226 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'd love to have you come by for 227 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: a visit beyond Ted's show and anytime you want to 228 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: come here. When when the book actually comes out, we'd 229 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: love to have you back on again, and thank you 230 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: for what you're doing, because the world needs to laugh. 231 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 4: It's too serious. 232 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 7: I love poking the bear. Agreed. 233 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: If you don't laugh, you'll cry, And so we're glad 234 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 3: to contribute any way we can. 235 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. When I do serious interviews every day, we bring 236 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: up a real world activities and experiences and as they 237 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: come out of my mouth, I'm going You know, I'm 238 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: an imaginative guy. I not only wrote Wango Tango, I 239 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: meant it so I have an uplifted imagination. But when 240 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: I see the real conduct of the democrats in our government, 241 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: big tech in Hollywood and academia, I mean, my brain 242 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: won't even go there because it's just too a defensive 243 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: and stupid and dangerous. So a big solute to u 244 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: Joel Babylon Beat. We love that stuff. We love the 245 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: middle Finger. Mine are on fire, by the way, they 246 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: work better when. 247 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 7: They're on fire. 248 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much for having me. 249 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 250 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. Gott bless you and keep up 251 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: the good work. 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One of the things that I 279 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: was really shocked to discover is that fifty percent of 280 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: Hunters don't vote. 281 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: But here's another one for you. Did you know fifty 282 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: percent of Christians don't vote. 283 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: But with this selection, believers are more outspoken than usual 284 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: they used to be. And it's about time because while 285 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: you heard about what happened at a Kamala Harris rally 286 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: when a young man shouted Jesus' Lord, to which the 287 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: vice president said. 288 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: You're at the wrong rally. Well, we're living in a 289 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: time where evil. 290 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: Is being exposed, and Revelation twelve twelve says, woe to 291 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone 292 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: down to you. 293 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: He is filled with. 294 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: Fury because he knows that his time is short. Joining 295 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: me now to discuss is my friend and evangelist Shane Winnings. 296 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: Shane, good to. 297 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 8: See you, Hey, great for being here. Thanks for having me. 298 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: So we know that evil triumphs when good men do nothing. 299 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: Why are believers just now starting to voice their opinion 300 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: about God? 301 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 10: You know, I think especially in this political you know 302 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 10: season that we're in, people have said the church should 303 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 10: stay out of politics, but now we're getting it to 304 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 10: a point where it's undeniable that politics is trying to 305 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 10: be involved in you. And I think that that squeezing 306 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 10: and that pressure that's happening is forcing people to take 307 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 10: a stand, you know, the idea of the church and 308 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 10: state and politics. It seemed like no big deal, you know, 309 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 10: my vote doesn't really matter whatever, maybe for the last 310 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 10: decade or so, but I feel like in this election specifically, 311 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 10: Christians are realizing, man, if I don't do something, if 312 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 10: I don't say something, things are getting worse, not better. 313 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 8: And so just the. 314 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 10: Result of the pressure of our season, the climate of 315 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 10: our culture, people are starting to become more bold because 316 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 10: one side has drawn a line in the sand and 317 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 10: Christians have to do the same. 318 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: You know. With the in regards to Kamal is a 319 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: response at the. 320 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: Rally, it just feels like there's a mockery of Christians 321 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: and it's being widely accepted amongst Democrats, but they claim 322 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: to push love for all and acceptance for all. Are 323 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: you seeing that disconnect too? 324 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 7: Yeah? 325 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 8: Absolutely. 326 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 10: I mean anyone with eyes and ears can see and 327 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 10: hear what they're up to. 328 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 8: They see through the pandering. 329 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 10: You know, for Kamala to strike down a Christian at 330 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 10: one of her rallies, but then the next day or 331 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 10: soon after that, be speaking at a church and you know, 332 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 10: speaking in the King James with one of her seven accents, 333 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 10: which is the you know, Southern pastor accent. Everyone sees 334 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 10: right through that. And you know, you can say whatever 335 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 10: you want, but we look at your actions. And when 336 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,359 Speaker 10: I look at the platform and the policies of Kamala, 337 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 10: even you know, separate from her personality, it is demonic. 338 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 8: It's not christ Like at all. 339 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 10: And so you know, say what you will, but when 340 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 10: you separate the candidate from the platform they're running on, 341 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 10: it's clear that I don't understand how a Christian could 342 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 10: vote Democrat. 343 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 8: In this election cycle. 344 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 10: I don't care what they say, I don't care what 345 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 10: Bible verses they pull out. I don't care who they 346 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 10: pander to. I'm a Christian. I walk with the Lord, 347 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 10: and I'm not buying him. 348 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not either. I'm with you. 349 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: My husband Ted and I have been with President Trump 350 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: on a few occasions and including we had dinner with 351 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: him at the White House and Ted played at the 352 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: national anthem at several of President Trump's rallies, and the rallies, 353 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: Shane are like so electric, it feels like you're at 354 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: the biggest concert ever. You had the honor and privilege 355 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: of praying over President Trump. 356 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: I just got goosebumps. Tell us what that was like, Yeah. 357 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 10: I mean, it was a great honor. Again, President Trump. 358 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 10: He's a man just like me. You know, he puts 359 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 10: his pants on one leg at a time. But there 360 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 10: is no denying when you're in the presence of someone 361 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 10: who has held the position as the most powerful person, 362 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 10: the most influential person in the world. And I take 363 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 10: it very seriously when the Bible says that God is 364 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 10: the one who appoints these leaders, and so like them 365 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 10: or not, you know, God appointed Trump at a time 366 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 10: to be a president. 367 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 8: I pray he does it again. 368 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 10: And so getting the honor of praying for him, it 369 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 10: was something I'll never forget. And the prayers that were 370 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 10: being prayed, they weren't surface level. It was like, I 371 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 10: pray that Trump would have the wisdom and the fear 372 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 10: of the Lord, you know, deep things that we all need. 373 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 8: And I've said it on my post. I'll say it again. 374 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 10: If Kamala invited me to pray for her, I would 375 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 10: do the exact same thing, because I'm a Christian and 376 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 10: that means that I'm not bipartisan. 377 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 8: I don't. 378 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 10: I'm not loyal to a political party. I'm loyal to 379 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 10: Jesus Christ. But I have received no such invitation. 380 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll bet you probably won't either. I hope 381 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: you do. But just saying you probably won't. 382 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 8: My bags aren't packed. 383 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 384 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: What do you think the responsibility of Christians are right 385 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: now in these times? 386 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 10: Well, you know, number one, we need to get out 387 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 10: of vote. We have the right to do that, and 388 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 10: it's very important, you know. I think about back in 389 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 10: the days of slavery, this was a political issue, but 390 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 10: men stood up and said no, this is a humanity issue, 391 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 10: and they actually went to war over it. I mean, 392 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 10: Americans killed other Americans to end slavery. I think we 393 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 10: forget how big of a deal that is. And so 394 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 10: now that we have the ability to strike down ideologies 395 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 10: and ways of thinking, and frankly, an entire new direction 396 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 10: for the country. 397 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 8: That is not good for America. That's not good for 398 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 8: the American people. 399 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 10: I don't understand why anyone would not go out and 400 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 10: voice their opinion with a vote. And then secondly, we 401 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 10: have to be bold and we have to be outspoken. 402 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 10: I've said this before at my men's groups, but there's 403 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 10: going to come a time when you're called upon and 404 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 10: your opinion is asked, and the most cowardly thing you 405 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 10: could do is stay quiet. You know, when we have 406 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 10: the mutilation of our children, when we have the modern 407 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 10: day holocaust of the unborn in the womb, and when 408 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 10: we have men in female sports, this is not the 409 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 10: time to be silent. And so, as a man of God, 410 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 10: as a Christian, I'm going to voice my opinion. And 411 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 10: I know that God is backing me, and so I 412 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 10: don't really care about the opinions of man. 413 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: God chose unlikely candidates to do his work, and I 414 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: think a lot of people feel so suppressed. Number one, 415 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: I know I am on social media, I'm so shadow band, 416 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: but they often feel like they don't have the confidence. 417 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: And I think of Moses going kind of arguing with God. No, 418 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: not me, I stutter. What encouragement can you give to 419 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: Christians to speak out and stand up now more than ever? 420 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, God doesn't need another Moses, he doesn't 421 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 10: need another Abraham. 422 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 8: He needs you. 423 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 10: And that's why you're here on this earth because God 424 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 10: does have a plan and a purpose for your life. 425 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 10: And I would hate to stifle that planner purpose through 426 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 10: in sc security. And so wherever you're at that, you know, 427 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 10: if you don't know what God's asking you to do, 428 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 10: just do the next right thing. 429 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 8: Sometimes that is speaking the truth. 430 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 10: Sometimes you're in a family discussion and someone says, well, 431 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 10: what do you think about the pro life issue, or 432 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 10: what do you think about the transagenda? Say what is true, 433 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 10: that is bold, that is courageous. 434 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 8: And God will honor that. 435 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 10: And I think we've seen a lack of that in 436 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 10: the country, and that's why our country has inch by 437 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 10: inch crept to this place where we wake up we're 438 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 10: in twenty twenty four and we look around and we say, man, 439 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 10: this looks nothing like it did when I was a kid. 440 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 10: But I believe we can turn this country around if 441 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 10: we submit to God, if we repent for the ways 442 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 10: that we've been cowardly, we've been silent, complicit, And when 443 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 10: we turn our hearts towards God, I believe he will 444 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 10: revive us as a people, and he will revive our nation. 445 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 10: And I'm grateful that Donald Trump wants to surround himself 446 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 10: with Christian leaders who pray that that would be the case. 447 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 10: That was the high honor is that we have a 448 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 10: candidate who is welcoming of the prayers of believers and 449 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 10: is a believer himself. 450 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 451 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: So there's a theory going around that you've heard about 452 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: him getting shot in the ear and bringing President Trump 453 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: to his knees. 454 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: What are your thoughts about that? Biblically speaking, you. 455 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 10: Know, I know that God will use all things for 456 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 10: his good. I wouldn't say necessarily, you know, God subcontracted 457 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 10: out someone to shoot President Trump, but God, being all knowing, 458 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 10: you know, knew that this would happen and he used 459 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 10: it for his good. You know, I said this in 460 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 10: another interview. I've been in several near death experiences as 461 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 10: an army officer and as a police officer prior to 462 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 10: my time with Promise Keepers. And every time you have 463 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 10: a near death experience, you have this aha moment again 464 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 10: of like man, life is not promised, life is short. 465 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 8: What am I waking up for in the morning. And 466 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 8: I believe we've seen that in President Trump. He had 467 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 8: a near death experience. 468 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 10: He was literally shot in the ear, almost died, and 469 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 10: he has been more vocal about God and about the 470 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 10: things of God. He has been more surrounded by Christians 471 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 10: and people of faith and prayer than I've ever seen. 472 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 8: And there is a humility to him that I did 473 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 8: not see prior to him being shot. It's on a 474 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 8: different level. 475 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 10: And so I think it's undeniable that he's had a 476 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 10: real experience and that he gives God all the glory 477 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 10: and credit for his life. And it seems that his 478 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 10: aim is to make America a country that honors God again. 479 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 8: And that's what I'm most excited about. 480 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: I absolutely love that, and I'm so grateful and I'm 481 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: so glad Shane that you got to spend that time 482 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: with him, and I hope you'll come back again, maybe 483 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: even before the inauguration when he's inaugurated and you get 484 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: another chance to pray for him and with him. 485 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 8: That'd be amazing. 486 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: All right, Shane Winnings, thank you so much for joining me. 487 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: How can people find you on social media? 488 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 8: I'm on Instagram and YouTube, Facebook. 489 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 10: Just search for my name Shane Winnings and our men's 490 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 10: organization is at Promise Underscore Keepers on Instagram. 491 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: Shane, thank you so much, God bless thank you. 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Okay, it's 521 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: already been over a year since the tragic events of 522 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: October seventh, and that day when Hamas Terris killed, raped, 523 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: and kidnapped thousands of innocent Israeli people. For as long 524 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: as people can remember, there's always been a conflict between 525 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: Palestinians and Israelis that's rooted further back then. Most people 526 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: realize this conflict is so old that even the Bible 527 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: addresses the prophecy of the Israeli people. 528 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 4: Take a peek at this trailer that's. 529 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: Meant to explain the Biblical prophecy of the Israeli people. 530 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 4: Watch. 531 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 7: You don't lose your right to your home because somebody 532 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 7: kicked you up. That toa came before an end. 533 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: It's not by accident. 534 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 7: Patterns of Evidence Foundation presents. 535 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: The covenants are what holds the storyline together. 536 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 7: A film that asks, if God made a covenant with 537 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 7: the children of. 538 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: Israel, God's covenants are everlasting. 539 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 7: There will be other. 540 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: Things disappearing from the natural cosmos before I break my covenant. 541 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 7: I will never break my covenant. 542 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: Funny me now is the investigative filmmaker who had the 543 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: courage to create the film Patterns Patterns of Evidence. 544 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: Tim Mahoney, Welcome Tim. 545 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 7: Well, thanks for having me. I appreciate it talking about 546 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 7: this well. 547 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: Your film tackles some of the Bible's biggest mysteries, blending history. 548 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: And faith so beautifully. 549 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: What first inspired you to tell these stories and was 550 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 2: there ever a specific event or discovery that sparked this 551 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: journey for you? 552 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 7: What happened was I grew up in a Christian home, 553 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 7: and I always believed everything was true. So and then 554 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 7: when I heard that people were searching and finding evidence 555 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 7: of chariot wheels on the bottom of the Red Sea. 556 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 7: I thought, that's crazy what this is from the time 557 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 7: of the excess with Farrell's army being destroyed in the 558 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 7: Red Sea. That kind of caught my attention. And when 559 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 7: the opportunity came to go to Egypt and start searching 560 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 7: for more evidence of the Exodus, I was in. But 561 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 7: during that investigation I was told that there really wasn't 562 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 7: any evidence, and I came home and had a crisis 563 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 7: of faith. And so what led me to kind of 564 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 7: move into a whole new direction was starting to look 565 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 7: for what we call patterns of evidence, and that became 566 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 7: the first investigation that we released in twenty fifteen in 567 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 7: theaters all across the nation on Netflix. It was patterns 568 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 7: of Evidence the Exodus. But during the filming of that 569 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 7: in two thousand and seven, I went to Israel and 570 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 7: did these incredible interviews with Benjamin et Yahu, Shimon Perez 571 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 7: and other leaders of Israel, and I asked them, well, 572 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 7: tell me about your history and what right do you 573 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 7: have to live here? And that goes back to the 574 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 7: Bible again. It goes back to the story of Abraham 575 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 7: and God promised his descendants that they would have this 576 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 7: land called the Promised Land, and which leads us then 577 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 7: later on to becoming his family grows into this large 578 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 7: group that are in Egypt, and that tells the story 579 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 7: of the exodus out of Egypt and the Israelites journey 580 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 7: to Mount Sinai. So in this investigation, I am investigating 581 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 7: something called a covenant that God and these people agreed. 582 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 7: They agreed to be his people and that He would 583 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 7: be their God, but they had to live by certain 584 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 7: laws and rules. And that's what this investigation is doing, 585 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 7: is saying, can we find any evidence for any of this? 586 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: So what is Israel's ancient connection to the land and 587 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: why is that so important? 588 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I know what tell us? 589 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 7: Yes, Well, well, it's interesting. Of all the nations in 590 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 7: the world, there's only one that God actually made a 591 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 7: deal with, according to the Bible, and that is the 592 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 7: Jewish people. We call him the people of Israel, the 593 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 7: Sons of Israel. There were twelve tribes and they grew 594 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 7: into this group of people, and He promised them this land, 595 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 7: but they were to be a light to the world. 596 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 7: And I've often used this phrase that God revealed himself 597 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 7: to these people at Mount Sinai so that in the 598 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 7: future they would reveal who he is to the rest 599 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 7: of the world. And every book of the Bible that 600 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 7: we have was written by through the inspiration, divine inspiration 601 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 7: of God, by Jewish people. So our understanding of Jewish 602 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 7: and Christian understanding of God and our purpose in the 603 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 7: world all comes from this group of people. And this 604 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 7: little piece of land, in fact, it probably was supposed 605 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 7: to be bigger than it was supposed to be bigger. 606 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 7: But all they have right now is this was land 607 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 7: was given to these people according to the Bible. And 608 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 7: so the question is is any of this true. That's 609 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 7: the kinds of films that I make is investigating the 610 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 7: truth of that. And in order to do that, in 611 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 7: this film the Israel Dilemma, after what happened last year 612 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 7: in Octo and everyone's you know, all this anti Semitism 613 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 7: comes up in rages, I thought, do people really know 614 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 7: the history of this? And do I even know the 615 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 7: history of this? So I went back to the very beginning. 616 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 7: In fact, we actually start with creation and we tell 617 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 7: this story all the way up to the nation of 618 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 7: Israel and how all of this comes together. And what 619 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 7: we have found is that God, at this covenant that 620 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 7: was made, there were five things that would happen. Moses 621 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 7: gave a prophecy and this subtitle of this film is 622 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 7: Ancient Prophecies, and he prophesied that the Jewish people would 623 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 7: have a nation, they would have a kingdom, but that 624 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 7: they would break the covenant with God and if they did, 625 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 7: and when they did, they would be destroyed as a nation. 626 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 7: They would be scattered to the other nations. They would 627 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 7: be persecuted, but in the future God would be merciful 628 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 7: and they would be returned to the land. And that's 629 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 7: what this investigation is searching for. 630 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 4: Oh, I can't wait to see it. 631 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: So what's the most amazing thing that you discovered about 632 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: the Bible? 633 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: Was there something that you hadn't anticipated? 634 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 7: I think that, well, one is the language. I mean 635 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 7: the very fact that one of my earlier investigations, you know, 636 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 7: the whole idea of an alphabet. We all take it 637 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 7: for granted, we think, you know, and some people say, well, 638 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 7: it's the Phoenicians. But I made a film called the 639 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 7: Moses Controversy. And in order to know God's word, you 640 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 7: have to actually know how to read it right, and 641 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 7: you have to write. And so what happened was is 642 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 7: that these people living in Egypt, they weren't Egyptians took 643 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 7: hieroglyphs and modified them into what we know as an alphabet, 644 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 7: a phonetic alphabet, and that became the basis of all alphabets, 645 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 7: and it migrates out of Egypt to Israel and then 646 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 7: later on to other parts of the world. So to me, 647 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 7: one of the most fascinating things is that in order 648 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 7: to know God's word you had to He gave us, 649 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 7: I believe, a tool. And the Bible says in the 650 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 7: beginning was the Word, and the word was with God, 651 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 7: and the word was God. So to me, then what 652 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 7: I'm doing is I'm looking at words that God has 653 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 7: given us and I'm trying to understand what's happening. And 654 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 7: some of those words are used to write down what happened. 655 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 7: And the Bible is called the Testament, Old Testament and 656 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 7: New Testament, but it's a testimony, and a testimony is 657 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 7: testifying to God acting in history. And so this new film, 658 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 7: it's going to be in theaters thirteenth of November, fourteenth 659 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 7: and seventeenth, and if people would like to go see it, 660 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 7: please do. It's a big deal. It's a going to 661 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 7: be you can go to patterns of evidence dot com. 662 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 7: Patterns of Evidence dot Com. You'll see a trailer. You 663 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 7: can get tickets and we have group ticket sales, so 664 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 7: you get a discount for bringing groups. It's a really 665 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 7: I think important film because this situation with Israel's not 666 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 7: going to go away. Uh. I think we have to 667 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 7: understand what this is about. And you're showing some examples 668 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 7: of memes that you can spread the word UH and 669 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 7: invite people. We're getting really high h recommendations from people 670 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 7: and this film no one's ever done this before, taken 671 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 7: and given this whole narrative in one fell swoop and 672 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 7: we're going to be talking about prophecy profits like Isaiah, Ezekiel, 673 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 7: Jeremiah where we have great recreations. We're going to tell 674 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 7: the story about Hezekiah digging this tunnel and the archaeology. 675 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 7: If you love archaeology or if you are you really 676 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 7: interested in in ancient you know, discoveries. Uh, this is 677 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 7: going to be a great film for you for your faith. 678 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 7: And if you've got somebody who doesn't believe, bring them 679 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 7: to see this film, because I think they're going to 680 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 7: be astounded by what they're going to see. 681 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see it. 682 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: So where can they buy tickets online or after? 683 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's best to buy them ahead of time patterns 684 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 7: of Evidence dot com. In Patterns of Evidence dot Com, 685 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 7: it'll take them to the ticket site. They can put 686 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 7: in their zip code and it'll show them where they 687 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 7: can get their tickets. Why it's important to show to 688 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 7: have these movies in the theater is that because you know, 689 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 7: you have a lot of people on your show. You 690 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 7: know there's there's forces that want to quiet down information, 691 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 7: and but we want these films to be in the public. 692 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 7: We don't want them to be you know, like you 693 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 7: can't talk about this. So this is evidence for God 694 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 7: acting in history. Right now, we're in the fall and 695 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 7: there's plenty of horror movies and all sorts of dark 696 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 7: things that are going on. So this is something that's 697 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 7: very positive, something that I think brings light and I 698 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 7: think it's gonna it's it's going to give you an 699 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 7: understanding of God acting in history and encouraging you. This 700 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 7: is the first part. It's a complete film, but this 701 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 7: is a two part investigation. The next part we're hoping 702 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 7: to get done for next year. And because this pattern 703 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 7: repeat itself twice of God, God dealing with the nation 704 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 7: of Israel, and we are in the midst of the 705 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 7: second pattern right now. We're experiencing that, and that's the 706 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 7: big investigation. What's going on. So people need help with this. 707 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 7: That's what this is about. 708 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: Tim mahoney, thank you so much for joining me. God 709 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: bless I can't wait. 710 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: To see it. 711 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me on. 712 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 4: Don't go away, We'll be right back. 713 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 6: Well, there's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 714 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 6: the outside is to change the world. 715 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 9: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 716 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 6: Well, there's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 717 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 6: the outside is to change the world. 718 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 719 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: Do you have any idea what's in your water? Sadly, 720 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: maybe just a little bit of our maybe some volatile 721 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 2: organic compounds, maybe pharmaceutical drugs mrn A and guys, this 722 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 2: is serious stuff. We cannot take our water that comes 723 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: out of the tap for granted anymore. I found Centry 724 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 2: Wellness system that removes harmful toxins and enriches water with 725 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: essential nutrients. It's much healthier and cheaper than buying plastic water. 726 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: Check out centr h two dot com and use the 727 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: promo code healthy ten for a discount. That's century h 728 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: two o dot com healthy ten. 729 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 6: The sharing of biased and false news has become all 730 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 6: too common on social media. 731 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: The sharing of biased and. 732 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 6: False news has come all too common on social. 733 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 8: Media without. 734 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 5: Unfortunate laforms. 735 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 7: And anxiety. 736 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: And this is. 737 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 5: Extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely dangerous to 738 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 5: our democracy. 739 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 4: This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 740 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 7: This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 741 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 4: This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 742 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 7: This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. 743 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: If you've never heard of the book called Rules for 744 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: Radicals by Saul Alinsky, he emphasizes that repeating a narrative 745 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: is a powerful way to control the public perception and 746 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: to rally support and challenge the opposition by embedding their 747 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: message that they want you to know into the mainstream consciousness. 748 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: Did you know that Hillary Clinton did her thesis on 749 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: Rules for Radicals? 750 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 4: So it's not. 751 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: Surprising that the Democrats created the narrative about January sixth 752 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: being an insurrection. 753 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 4: You know, I want to know what ever happened to 754 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 4: Ray Epps. 755 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: He was the guy who was on film telling people 756 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 2: to go into the Capitol go into the Capitol. Well, 757 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: you know, he was charged with the misdemeanor and six 758 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: months of probation. Meanwhile, there are still political prisoners running 759 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: away in jail who weren't even at the capital of 760 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 2: that day. Trennis Evans, author and founder of Condemned USA 761 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 2: dot org, joins me to discuss Trennis Welcome, Hey. 762 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 5: Thanks Jamaine. Glad to see you, Thanks for having me. 763 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 4: Good to see you too. 764 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: So unfortunately we don't have a lot of time, but 765 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: give us your ninety second version of what happened to 766 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 2: you on January sixth. 767 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 5: Wow, I went into the United States Capitol peacefully demonstrating. 768 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 5: I was on a megaphone. I was seeing shaking hands 769 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 5: with the police. I was seeing this is CCTV video, 770 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 5: this is their own video, shows me shaking hands with 771 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 5: the police, shows me having pats on the back from 772 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 5: officers for helping clear the building, shows me on videos 773 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 5: saying don't harm the police, don't damage the building. We're 774 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 5: here only for peaceful protest. Anything else unconstitutional, etc. 775 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 4: Etc. 776 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 5: Ad nauseum and repetitive fashion on a megaphone, and I 777 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 5: still got to see the inside of a federal prison 778 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 5: and solitary confinement and maximum security. I have no prior 779 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 5: criminal record, never even been charged with a crime, and 780 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 5: yet here I am have now seen the inside of 781 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 5: a maximum security federal facility. I don't understand. I'm still 782 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 5: a little questioning myself. 783 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 2: None of us understand, and we know that there's this 784 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 2: obvious law there. And it's funny because exactly what they 785 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: say President Trump is going to do to them, they're 786 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: doing to people like you. 787 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 4: I just got a message from somebody. I'm going to 788 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 4: hook you up with him later. 789 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: He just said he was there on January sixth and 790 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: with a couple of his buddies. The couple of the 791 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 2: buddies just got phone calls, got visits by the Fed. 792 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: So he's got a lawyer up. Do you think that 793 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 2: J six prisoners will I'll ever get justice for all 794 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 2: the years they've spent locked away. 795 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 4: It's just despicable, Trennis. 796 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 5: Financial compensation would never give you back the time that 797 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 5: you lose with your children or your family, or the 798 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 5: distraction from life, the loss of business, the narrative that 799 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 5: they sowed of this insurrection and telling everybody went there 800 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 5: as an armed, violent mob, as Kamala Harris repeated last 801 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 5: night in her speech at the Ellipse and talked about 802 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 5: that Trump sent an arm violent mob, which is an 803 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 5: absolute lie. It's always been a lie, and it will 804 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 5: always be a lie. However, the repetitive nature of, like 805 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 5: you said, the Marxist ideology is to claim that one 806 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 5: is doing as the other person actually is doing right, 807 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 5: and that they subject you to that narrative that was 808 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 5: carried out by the Select Committee. It was carried out 809 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 5: by the FBI even today, the FBI Washington Field office 810 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 5: still is putting every day January sixth in ay host 811 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 5: January six pinned to the top of their page. I 812 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 5: regularly go on their page on Twitter on x we're 813 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 5: going to call it, I guess and thank God for 814 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 5: Elon and go on that page and regularly call them 815 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 5: out for this and say, wait a minute. You pulled 816 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 5: resources from child human trafficking. You pulled resources that were 817 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 5: supposed to be monitoring violent gang activity, international gang activity, 818 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 5: even that's ongoing in the United States of America today 819 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 5: and people are suffering, people are being murdered, and you 820 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 5: took resources from that to chase around essentially Grandma that 821 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 5: went into the Federal Building and demonstration of the stolen 822 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 5: twenty twenty election. You got to be kidding me. 823 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. 824 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 2: Tell me about your book, Insurrection, comrade, and where do 825 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: people find it? 826 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 7: Yeah? 827 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 5: For words, pull it insurrection, comrade. It goes right along 828 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 5: with what you were just saying. This is only a Marxist, 829 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 5: a communist. The people that carry water for the Commis, 830 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 5: if you will, would call January sixth of an insurrection, 831 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 5: and I'll give it to you really straight and simple 832 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 5: on that. Anyone that thinks that the most armed populace 833 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 5: on the face of the planet showed up to take 834 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 5: on the largest military industrial complex to ever exist at 835 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 5: the seat of their nation's government with plastic flagpoles and 836 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 5: megaphones and grandma's and kids in tow is an absolute 837 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 5: insane belongs in an asylum. I mean, you have to 838 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 5: have seriously, you at least need some therapy. There's something 839 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 5: wrong with you. If you think that's the case, you 840 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 5: can't make that make sense. And that is what happened. 841 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 5: It is the situation. And I agree that there was 842 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 5: certainly components of there's areas where people did things, But 843 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 5: I want to make clear to people the news I 844 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 5: saw your opening there with the news. I love that. 845 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 5: It's a wonderful clip, but in reality, people have to 846 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 5: recognize that they showed you the response of the crowd 847 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 5: after people were killed, like Roseanne Boilin. They showed you 848 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 5: the response of the crowd after people were singing God 849 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 5: bless America and America the Beautiful and they began firing 850 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 5: munitions into a peaceful crowd. Those people did nothing to 851 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 5: warrant those actions, and yet those march forward and said, hey, stop, 852 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 5: what are you doing. You're breaking the law. They're sitting 853 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 5: in prison. They've silenced those voices, and this is a 854 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 5: tragedy that's happening in the United States of America. There 855 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,959 Speaker 5: was a protest, it got out of hand, and both 856 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 5: sides are a couple of some of the actions there. 857 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 5: But in reality, had this been any other thing George 858 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 5: Floyd or some other event throughout history that we've seen 859 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 5: in the last five years, these people would be winning 860 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 5: civil suits against the DC Metro police and possibly Capitol 861 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 5: Police in many instances. 862 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Twna Sevans, thank you so much for joining me. 863 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 2: Where can people find you online? 864 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, follow me on X, follow me on ghetter. It's 865 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 5: all at Condemned USA. And then of course the book 866 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 5: is available on Amazon and it is also available on 867 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 5: Barnes and Noble, So please give it a read and 868 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 5: share it with a friend. Makes a great Christmas present 869 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 5: for your liberal friend that can't grasp the concept of 870 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 5: what actually happened. 871 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I'm going to buy some. Definitely. Well, thank 872 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 4: you so much for joining me. God bless you. 873 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 5: All right, thank you, Samane, thanks for having me. And 874 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 5: please don't forget every day today there's still arresting people 875 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 5: and we have so many people in prison that still 876 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 5: need your help. Please donate to our actions that condemned USA. 877 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 5: The FI will one and support the empty people that 878 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 5: desperately need help in January sixth. 879 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you. Okay, uh, it's that time. We always 880 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 2: have to end our show with something to make you smile. 881 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: Take a look at this. 882 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 8: Days come down. 883 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 6: In the summer time. 884 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 2: You can send me your funny pet videos. 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