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Speaker 1: It's nine O Gen one leg with Jenny Garth and

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Speaker 1: Tory Spelling. Wow, you guys.

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Speaker 2: They missed them behind the scenes. I hate to say it,

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Speaker 2: but the right before we go.

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Speaker 1: On things are juicy. So it was pretty solid looking

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Speaker 1: with you guys. This episode it is called love Hurts

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Speaker 1: My Brain. That's what it did. That's what hurts. It

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Speaker 1: hurt my brain. I couldn't. Could you believe this episode?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been It's burned in my brain since college.

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Speaker 3: WHOA, I forgot? This is like one of the fan

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Speaker 3: favorite episodes. That's like when people say, like to me,

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Speaker 3: like Donna, like, oh my god, you said Dave. Okay,

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Speaker 3: sorry I'm jumping ahead, but yes, that's like a big thing.

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Speaker 3: All I could think about is, oh my gosh, I

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Speaker 3: forgot Garrett. It's the guy from Cable.

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Speaker 1: Guy, right, David bo who played Garrett Slan the Creeper.

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Speaker 3: But wait, so okay, So we love Cable Guy because

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Speaker 3: Brian always does impressions like spot on. He's so Jim

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Speaker 3: Carrey good, he's so a secifically cable guy. But in

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Speaker 3: the end scene of Cable Guy, David who played Garrett

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Speaker 3: is in the end scene in the helicopter, like, remember, nope, okay.

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Speaker 1: But this episode is so crazy, let's give him a

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Speaker 1: Synopsis of season five, episode twenty three, Love Hurts, aired

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Speaker 1: March first, nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 3: Synopsis Lenny is an outcast on campus while the real

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Speaker 3: rapist is on the loose and comes for Donna. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: Valerie's evil tactics put a wedge between David and Donna

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Speaker 3: until he saves her. On the other side of town,

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Speaker 3: Dylan discovers Andrea's dirty secret, and Andrea discovers doctor Peter

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Speaker 3: is not in it for the long run.

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Speaker 1: Directed by Gilbert Shilton, written by Arry Mullen and Kin Stringer.

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Speaker 2: Jenny, where were you? Do you have any memory of

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Speaker 2: why you're not in this episode? A?

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Speaker 1: I have no memory of anything, and B well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think maybe it was just because Kelly

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Speaker 1: had just been through so much trauma and drama. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I needed a break.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, Toy, do you y?

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Speaker 1: Tory?

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Speaker 3: I think maybe I'm wrong? Jen. Had we started double ups?

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Speaker 3: I think this was a double up episode. Would that'd

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Speaker 3: be wrong?

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Speaker 2: That makes more sense, Tory, That makes sense because I

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Speaker 2: would I not be there because maybe you were so

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Speaker 3: You were so huge in the other one. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that sounds familiar.

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Speaker 1: But maybe regardless, I did not miss me. I was

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Speaker 1: of it because I missed you. You know, it's a toy.

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Speaker 2: It's an amazing performance.

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Speaker 1: What a great episode. Oh my gosh, you should have

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Speaker 1: gotten some sort of accolades for this.

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Speaker 3: But nope, Nope, that wouldn't be on brand.

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Speaker 2: No, but Jenny, we did miss you, and especially when

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Speaker 2: Donna comes in and says, Kelly, Yeah, you're a Kelly.

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Speaker 1: I know. It's just weird that they didn't like explain

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Speaker 3: Maybe she was Nope, everyone, but here's the thing. The

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Speaker 3: good news is your name was mentioned, Kelly, and you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to be there, so you're.

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Speaker 2: Probably What do you remember about when they came to

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so traumatic. I remember this episode.

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Speaker 3: No, I remember every detail of this episode, but I

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Speaker 1: I don't remember anything about it because you know how

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, and you've never seen it.

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Speaker 1: No, it's scary. It's so scary it's triggering. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: No. And I remember being in college when this was on,

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Speaker 3: I liked him in that green jacket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was kipy truth.

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Speaker 3: No. No, yeah, we were never alone at college. There

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Speaker 3: do you remember that your Luke gave us all pepper

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Speaker 3: It wasn't soapy like it's become lately.

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Speaker 1: It went back to basics, like the drama. Should we

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Speaker 2: Definitely.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start out at the California I call

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Speaker 1: it the California University.

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Speaker 3: Where, uh, Donna, I don't want to say see you.

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Speaker 1: No, Donna is telling Steve and Andrea about how betrayed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she really blamed Claire at first.

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Speaker 1: Why is Claire? Is Claire the booker? There is? I

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Speaker 3: Anybody like a pea pad? Like a dog? Pea pad? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Your favorite thing not to use? Yep, the pea Pad.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to be it's new.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really long title.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the hierarchy. So now owns a

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Speaker 2: Claire are the bookers, Okay, the music booker.

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Speaker 3: Claire feels more involved though, Yeah, she has more, say

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Speaker 3: make it make it more feminine, yeah, job.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot. And they have.

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Speaker 1: A registered sex offender on campus. Yeah, living in a dorm.

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Speaker 3: Madamte discussion took me right back to the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Is that the notel motel with them is really taking

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Speaker 3: Are we to the point where Garrett Canson?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: It's so weird. It's like a scene that's kind of irrelevant,

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Speaker 3: to be honest, But I remember sitting across from Tiffany

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Speaker 3: I'm talking to her and she's like, no, David, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we meet him. I think we meet him first

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Speaker 3: I'm so nervous spilling something. I'm so clumsy, and I

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Speaker 1: You don't really know him, right, You're really nice to him.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people commented they were with me. Just

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Speaker 3: That all the three people that supported me on this,

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not gay about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, when we get there, okay, let's keep Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And picture Charlie's so like, like there's this couple and

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Speaker 2: Because at least his showers like water, like literally, brad

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Speaker 3: Then yeah, I'd go. Yeah, I'd get all the hotel, motel, Cootie,

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Speaker 2: What are we thinking of Andrea. I'm quite disappointed in her, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I doesn't even feel bad about it.

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Speaker 3: In a lot of the episode, she's in love with him. Oh,

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Speaker 2: The way, crazily, you guys I have to tell you

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Speaker 2: He is fully in Keeper Sutherland's twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I'm totally watching it while I'm watching this, and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 3: Huh. I think that one too.

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Speaker 1: So this is when things start to get creepy though.

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Speaker 2: No? Claire.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he was watching her and that he knew

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Speaker 2: You spill at the table, who's sitting with you.

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Speaker 3: Hold when he does come in, because he's coming in

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Speaker 3: And then I was like, what.

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Speaker 1: Why is Donna being so nice to Valerie? Is it

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Speaker 1: because of what we talked about last week that you

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Speaker 1: Great question, Like I didn't get now why you were friendly?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so why did I come there? I came there

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Speaker 3: I think so, but I'm too nice? And then she

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Speaker 3: let's eat. Yeah good though.

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Speaker 2: Like I definitely was like, yeah that Sam act when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when you know something bad's happening. I honestly

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Speaker 2: That was cute.

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Speaker 1: He was cute in that, so cute. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: It wasn't occidental. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: When you find out you have to go all the

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Speaker 3: I mean for years we had to go to Torrents

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Speaker 2: You drive yourselves interesting okay, sorry, little tidbits for me

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Speaker 1: Dylan meets up with Andrea too and confronts her. Thank

444
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: you about the affairs.

445
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: So let us talk about.

446
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: Another moment for Amy and her theory.

447
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 2: Of this is where it began for me. In this

448
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: episode again, they have a first of all, he tells

449
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: her he doesn't keep it. He's not a jerk about it.

450
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: He's a really really good friend to her. He's not

451
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: accosting her with the information, if that's the right word.

452
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 2: He's just very I'm here. Let's talk about it if

453
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: you want to.

454
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: Okay, may I interject? Wait, so there is I know

455
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. There's some feeling, there's a chemistry

456
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: that he projects towards her that's different than with like

457
00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: other relationships.

458
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: Correct, they're very it's close. It is a real mutual

459
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: respect between them.

460
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: He's not more grounded like it feels very adult.

461
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: He's not giving her a kind Yes, he's very loving

462
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: towards her always Wow, and we will discuss later. It's

463
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: very affectionate with him.

464
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: I feel it. I know what you're saying now. I

465
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: was so against it, like there's.

466
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: Something but there could have been, Like I get it.

467
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: We didn't do that, but like I wish they would have,

468
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: because he genuinely cares about her so much. She has

469
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 2: always respected him, she has always valued him, She has

470
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: always known how smart he is. They have this sort

471
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: of like leveled up relationship. So anyway, we'll talk about

472
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: it more as it goes on, because then it really

473
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 2: gets real.

474
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: Then we see David going to Lenny's room and trying

475
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: to convince him to not leave.

476
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: Campus, and he says, give me a day. I'm going

477
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: to work it out, give me a day. What's he

478
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: gonna do? What?

479
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: I have a question going back to the the Dylan

480
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: Andrea thing. First of her, First of all, her hair

481
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: was like perfection, right out of a hair catalog.

482
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: Would you do that?

483
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: Like, would you guys do that? Would you step in

484
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: if you saw a friend of yours that you care

485
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: about deeply having an affair with somebody or pooling around

486
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: with somebody besides their spouse, would you do.

487
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 4: Yes?

488
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

489
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 3: I think I would say because he's not telling her

490
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: not to do it. He's just telling her he knows.

491
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think for her, I think I

492
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: maybe would. It only puts you in the weird position

493
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: if the other one comes to you and so is

494
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: my wife cheating on me, then you're like, OK, no,

495
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm screwed. No, But I think he did the right

496
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: thing by saying I saw you. He's really not saying

497
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: stop it or do it. He's just like, judge, you

498
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: want someone to listen.

499
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: Because imagine what that must be like to only be

500
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 3: able to keep that inside and have nobody you feel

501
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: you can talk to about it. So the fact that

502
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: he's there must be a huge relief for her.

503
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't have liked it if he didn't tell her.

504
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: That would be so like dishonest to what I'm talking

505
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: about with their friendship. Their friendship is very deep in

506
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: my opinion.

507
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that, that's true. I was on the fence

508
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: about it. If I would do that personally, I probably would.

509
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: But right, you only get into hot water if you're

510
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: in the middle.

511
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 3: But that's something about me. You would have come and swinging,

512
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: But well.

513
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: For you, yeah, uh, this is the thing though, Dylan's

514
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: really good at helping people, Like I feel like he

515
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: genuinely loves to help people, which is such a cool character.

516
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: That is something about this character that he brought.

517
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 5: To it, you know.

518
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, just especially her, and the same for her with him.

519
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: Okay, we get it, Amy, I want Dylan and Andrea together.

520
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: I really would have loved to see it happen. I

521
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: think they could have been.

522
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: An endgame three point five people and you.

523
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: Could have anyway. I digress, but continue.

524
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: Did anybody notice how tall Brian got? Like he hit

525
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: a growth spurt. There was one point where he was

526
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: in a scene with Jason, David and Brandon were any

527
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 1: scene together and David is towering over him. I think

528
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: it was at the at the wallsh house that's coming up.

529
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did kind of notice that.

530
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: Wait, you think.

531
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: We talked to Lenny?

532
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: Yes, right, Amy, guys still are growing when they're I

533
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: grew so yeah. Really yeah, I literally feel like he

534
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: hit puberty between the last episode and this episode, Like

535
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: that was it.

536
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: He changed a little, like.

537
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: Spurt, that's why they call it the spur.

538
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: At the time the ten years, he really changed a lot.

539
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

540
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he became a man. Yeah, and then we go

541
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: to the beach house where David shows up and Donna

542
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: is furious with him for getting rid of Ray. She

543
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: they wait, they are really screaming at each other.

544
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really tory. Yoh, because you really both

545
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: you and Brian really bring it in this episode, because

546
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: that was a crazy fight.

547
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: I was like, so I came in hot, and I

548
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 3: was like, wait, am I gonna have levels? Like am

549
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: I coming in too hot? Too fast? Thing? Like you

550
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: want to build? But like it was okay because they're

551
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: both like fired up.

552
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot of emotion between these two, like pent

553
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: up feelings literally.

554
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: Sexual tension. There's I mean, imagine like every friendship, it.

555
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: Just reached its boiling point.

556
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: Right. I can't believe he called her what do you say?

557
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't even say it. You say it amy insensitive.

558
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: You've become a.

559
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: Self involved bitch.

560
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

561
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: It was a version of what you used to be.

562
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: And I was like, I know, that's so funny, that's

563
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: ironic because I'm really pale right now. When like the

564
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: Mac like you would put on like a shade, two shades,

565
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: like lighter than your face, and it was so in

566
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: And I was like literally, I'm so cr okay this Gil.

567
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: First of all, that fight was a big miss understanding, right,

568
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: because it's like, yes, David didn't like fight for Ray,

569
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: but he isn't the cause of this now. But he

570
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: went really too far there at the end because I

571
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: haven't noticed that Donna. First of all, yes, because we

572
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: know more right, we know that Valerie is just backstabbing

573
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: Donna so hard and her best friend's been in a

574
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: cult like Donna's sort of just been like oh, and

575
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: I don't think Donna's become anything less than she always was,

576
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: which is always the voice of reason, kind, loving, loyal.

577
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: So it's like she's loyal to Ray because she picked

578
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: him even if she shouldn't be.

579
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: But she's not as passive as maybe David knew her.

580
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: Like she's grown up a bit. She's a really good

581
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: point a little bit, and maybe he's taking that as

582
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: her being selfish because she's stronger.

583
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: That's a great point to her.

584
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, she is stronger.

585
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: That's and you stood up to Kelly a little bit,

586
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: like don't quit school. Yeah, you're finding your voice a bit. Good,

587
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: good point.

588
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean that was a great scene acting fight, The

589
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: fight I have written down. That was a great fight.

590
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: I like Claire shirt, the sequence shirt, but I would

591
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: say it, Yeah, I was just gonna say it. You

592
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: should never talk about my haircuts after that haircut.

593
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: But in all fairness, yours was a choice. I told

594
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: you that.

595
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Wait, wasn't a choice.

596
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: No.

597
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: I went in and I had like my little bob thing,

598
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: and he got confused and he chopped.

599
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: It like a boy like boy, Well, how do you

600
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: know that didn't happen to me?

601
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: Jen?

602
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: Was there an accident?

603
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: I was distracted because I was laughing.

604
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: Oh, those little curls. I'm just like that probably took

605
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: so long to put those whole half curls all over.

606
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: I had short hair because of you too.

607
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: It's getting shorter and shorter.

608
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I blame you guys. Short hair was sort of

609
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: in and this time I think or you guys made

610
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: it literally.

611
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: With the suspenders and the thermal look.

612
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: Then we cut to a scene where the someone scary

613
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: is packing up a duffel bag and he's putting in

614
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: a knife and a rope.

615
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: Wait till we talk about him breaking in. He's like,

616
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: ye tell me when we get there.

617
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So now we're going to go to the peach pit,

618
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: and we're going to see Cindy trying to play matchmaker

619
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: for Jackie, who I was so happy to see. She's

620
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: always so such a vision on camera. She's so pretty.

621
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: She says that she has been married four times and

622
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: she's kind of done with that. But then Old Mail

623
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: walks in with Aaron and Jackie starts flirting with him.

624
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: This was so random and yet so welcome. I was like,

625
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: I love Cindy setting up and she was going to

626
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: go on the town and she's setting her up.

627
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: I love that.

628
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: Mel. I'm not even mad at Mel. I want them

629
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: to be back together.

630
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: I know, right, I could feel the chemistry between those two, like, wait,

631
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: they barely did anything, and I mean Jackie and Mel, they.

632
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: Might as well be back.

633
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: They were just sure, yes, yes, they were in hardcore.

634
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you've given a spoiler. Yes, And this

635
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: is they might as well be back together already. After

636
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: that scene, I was like, you, I like it. I

637
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: like when they are not getting along, it was annoying.

638
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: So he's already a little too slick, so it's like

639
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: he needs to be perfect for each other.

640
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then this is the scene back at the Walsh

641
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: House where Brandon tells Cindy, which I really like. I

642
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: enjoyed a mother son chit chat from these two. I

643
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: kind of want to see more of that. But this

644
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: is the scene where Brian comes in and he's towering

645
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: over Brandon. David comes in and he's towering over Brandon,

646
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, man, they should have like

647
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: didn't they usually put apple boxes? Yeah, people to like

648
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: level out the playing field a little bit, because on

649
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: his over shoulder he was like looking up.

650
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: Wow, I agree with you, Jenny that I would like

651
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: a little more Walshes. We're missing the Walshes a bit.

652
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

653
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: I liked it.

654
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe that's why I love that scene so

655
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: much with Missus Walsh and your mom.

656
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: It was so.

657
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Cute and different and we Yeah, I.

658
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: Would like a little more of that, I think, Yeah,

659
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: we miss the Elders.

660
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

661
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Then we're back at the door. No wait, first we

662
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: have to go to Andrey and Jesse. Oh god, this

663
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: scene was I think and is being so annoying. I

664
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: just it was a lot of yelling between David and

665
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: now Jesse and Andrea are yelling at each other.

666
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: That's so like my tongue in and painis Bill and

667
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: it was just like God. And then she storms out

668
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: and goes to.

669
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: Like she tells them so tune up the car. Though

670
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: before he.

671
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you for I literally was like,

672
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 2: how does he know how to tune up a car?

673
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: And second of all, what cars need tune ups?

674
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 5: Like the car?

675
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't have Jippy Loube. Apparently that was.

676
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: It was necessary, but it was like, oh my god,

677
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: what are we? This is I didn't sign up for this?

678
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: Oh I don't.

679
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 2: I was in hook Line and Singer, but I didn't

680
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: sign up for Mayor Woes on nine o two one.

681
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, So then we go to the dorms where

682
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: Brandon goes to talk to Lenny. Lenny tells him that

683
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: the cops are not doing a good job with the investigation,

684
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: and he actually knows, I.

685
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: Mean, braved melody, don't, don't, don't.

686
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: This guy who's already kind of got a record is

687
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: going to withhold that kind of information. Absolutely not. That

688
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: was bananas. Yeah, maybe he was just scared, but yeah,

689
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: Brandon explains later, but.

690
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: Did you guys feel that this was a big an

691
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: expensive episode?

692
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: Did?

693
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: In fact?

694
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: I felt like they were on location a lot like

695
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: outside I don't know.

696
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: It just felt like those extra happenings.

697
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, when did this episode?

698
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: When did this air?

699
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: Ninety five March first?

700
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: Not sweeps, But.

701
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: This is where it gets crazy for me and for everybody,

702
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Back at the beach host on, it comes

703
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: home and the lights don't work. So, Donna, did you

704
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: come in the back door or the patio door? The

705
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: other door?

706
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: She definitely comes in the other door, like the wooden door.

707
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: The front door is when I would call it. And

708
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: he broke in through the back door in my opinion.

709
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: So I remember going, Okay, she's going in a different door.

710
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't matter what door she goes in because

711
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: she it's trouble. Yeah, Garrett's there waiting for her, and

712
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: he attacks her and he asks her to call him Warren.

713
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: It was very aggressive too, and he likes so scary.

714
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: It was so scary, it was terrifying.

715
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: I just remember there being a lot more Oh you

716
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: shot like tons? Yeah, there was tons of dialogue and

717
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: tons of different There was a lot cut I saw

718
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: him really, Yeah, it was, but it was more I

719
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: felt like it was so good. It was because it

720
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: was tightened up good. But there was we go into Yeah,

721
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 3: there's a lot more.

722
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a good job. Like, it's such so weird

723
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: to talk about this because it was such a nice guy.

724
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: We're talking about it like a show, right, because he's

725
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 2: so good. He wasn't great leading up. He was sort

726
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: of like I don't know, but this I was like,

727
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 2: I believe this guy's psycho. This guy is so scary.

728
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: This guy is totally a murderer rapist.

729
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: So wait, so he is his real name Warren or

730
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 3: does he have a split personality, Like yeah, that must

731
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: be the yeah he goes into from Garrett Warren and

732
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 3: now Warren on the Kay.

733
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: What's crazy is it's twenty eight minutes into the episode

734
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: when this happens.

735
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: Like it was.

736
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: A long scary scenes like it was long and if

737
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: you shot more.

738
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: Whoa, Yeah, it was just awful watching it was. It was.

739
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: I do not know, Torri, how you did that?

740
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, thank goodness for Lifetime movies at that point.

741
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: Oh my, I'm just kidding. They were I was prepared.

742
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: You were channeling and other care women from Harold.

743
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: Movies that we all filmed. It wasn't even Lifetime then,

744
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: it was actually on prime time. It was like NBCCBS.

745
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: You know and now and then Lifetime Yeah, yeah, ye,

746
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: but yeah, it was always the women in peril and like,

747
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: so we were prepped.

748
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 5: Hay, Were you like w t F what seeing it

749
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 5: for the first time like I was, And I was

750
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 5: also angry, where the where's Kelly?

751
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: She should be helping her? I just it was really

752
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: hard to watch, and you did such a great job,

753
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: but it made me so uncomfortable and I felt so

754
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: triggered on behalf of all the young girls and even

755
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: their moms watching it back then.

756
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: That is hard to watch today as it was then.

757
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: It's I have a question, Like I was wondering if

758
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: in her mind she was like, Okay, if I tell

759
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: him I'm a virgin, maybe he won't do it.

760
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: Tell him the truth to see if it will do something.

761
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: Maybe right, if that would help her in the moment,

762
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: and maybe.

763
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: You were so good though when they had that duct

764
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: tape on your mouth, it was scary, But then when

765
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: they took the duct tape off, it wasn't you know

766
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: how they used to put the duct tape on and

767
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: like make it not sticky, but then they wanted it

768
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: to look like it was like sticky tape.

769
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I could possibly put these on our faces, right,

770
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: so when it came off, you could tell it wasn't sticky.

771
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: It would just like it didn't stick like it wasn't

772
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: like rah.

773
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm remembering now, okay, But it was just.

774
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: Like astounded at how good you were in the ripping.

775
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I didn't even know about this storyline. I'm

776
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: so great. So were you just like somebody else had

777
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: to have bad things happened to them too?

778
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: Were you, Jenny? Were you just like completely shocked watching this? Yes?

779
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: I was saying, oh mg, no, Donna, I was talking

780
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: yelling at the TV.

781
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I I've seen this. This one definitely traumatized

782
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: me then and now I'm like, oh god, oh god.

783
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: But like seeing it for the first time, beat you

784
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: being you that must have been like nuts. Did you

785
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: watch it last night?

786
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: I watched it last night.

787
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: You've just seen this?

788
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, yeah, this is the this is a ten.

789
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go for it right now. I'm already

790
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: scoring it.

791
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: That's a and Tory, what's it like rewatching it?

792
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: I'd forgotten. I knew the storyline was coming up. I

793
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: knew I got stocked. I didn't realize it was like

794
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: time he tied her up and it was like a

795
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: rape scene. It all came back like I was like,

796
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: oh my god, Yeah, it.

797
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: Was bigger than you remember it, right, yes?

798
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: Uh can you remember preparing for this at all? This

799
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: would have to be the most challenging work. I guess

800
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: you've done. I mean, I guess those movies did prepare

801
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: you and I do remember those, but I don't know.

802
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, this was like for the main event.

803
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

804
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: Nine O two one O, like where you're just oh

805
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 1: my god, on the edge of your seat and you're saying,

806
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: I love this show so much. Because then David comes

807
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: in and done call's and Dave and and that was

808
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: like her brilliant way to send him a signal that

809
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: something was wrong, and because these two characters know each

810
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: other so well, he picked up on it.

811
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 3: He gets the baseball, which we had foreshadowing earlier. Why

812
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: the baseball bat? Wait?

813
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: I fully missed that. Was there a moment where you

814
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: mentioned there's a baseball bat in the apartment? Oh my god,

815
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: I fully miss save.

816
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. David comes in on the other door, right,

817
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: sorry that I flip flopped, and he's like metal baseball

818
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 3: bat basically, and Claire makes some reference to softball. Donna

819
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: I was she, Oh my god, is this completely missed that? Yeah,

820
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: I was unwilling to go back to see what she

821
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: meant by that, but I noted it.

822
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: So they were just kind of laying the foundation there for.

823
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it could be weird if just all of

824
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: a sudden, he came in with a baseball bat.

825
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, David cracks him so hard, massive as Donna.

826
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: You beat the crap was Donna's way.

827
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to kill him, Like I

828
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: thought that's where the episode was going to go. He

829
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: was going to die. Oh wait, just going.

830
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: Back a little bit. Garrett aka Warren noted that Donna

831
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: had taken self defense classes because remember oh yeah, season

832
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: before I Do which when Brenda with Brenda was it

833
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: two seas ago self defense? And Jason directed that episode

834
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 3: and Donna went to action at the theme park. He

835
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: knew that she had taken self defense classes, but he

836
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: said she was gotten a little slow.

837
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: That's weird.

838
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's creepy, but maybe he's been one Daves hotel.

839
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: He's not an amateur, was unafraid and came in there

840
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: hot and ready to kick ass.

841
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: Like he's so real too. That hit with a baseball bat,

842
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: it looks so real.

843
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

844
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: The doing these scenes is no joke, like because it

845
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: was all real. And he comes in and he is

846
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: mad and like ready to defend his woman and just rob.

847
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god.

848
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: The thing is when I was calling out to him,

849
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: so I heard the dave the first time, I was like, really,

850
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: that was it. She only says it like that one time,

851
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: like I don't know if that would be enough. Then

852
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 3: she does second again. Thank god?

853
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: Right.

854
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: I felt the same way. I was.

855
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: Green, like be like, okay, Bob, Bob, because what if

856
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: he was like huh said something weird and then he

857
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: like killed her, Like yeah, yeah.

858
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, thankfully it all worked out. I feel like

859
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a little ptsc from that though.

860
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: And then that scene with the two of them, mm hmmm.

861
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: He was sweet at the end.

862
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: I was like, like my reaction to that was like,

863
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 2: why are we bothering with them dating anybody else? Yeah?

864
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: Are we going to have five more seasons for them

865
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: to be back together? Like, but just like the again,

866
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: we're talking about intimacy, Like the two characters the two

867
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: actors like having that. It's something you can't like create that,

868
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: like you see them together or even just subtle things

869
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, yeah, did we.

870
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: When is the scene that I've been waiting to talk

871
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: about also with Andrea and Dylan?

872
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: Is it before this?

873
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: Yes, no, we're coming to it because we go back

874
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: to the to the hotel motel that.

875
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: They had this crescendo of the episode fairly early in

876
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: the episode.

877
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: It was like three quarters of the way through it, right.

878
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we get to this real moment in the middle.

879
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: Before we go back to the hotel, we see Brandon

880
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: go to the tell Claire that the rapist has been

881
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: stalking her, and then they're their cops are coming and.

882
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: They don't even know yet what's happening at the apartment.

883
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: Nope. Wow mm hmm. Then we go back to the

884
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: motel where Charlie offers Dylan the indie food, and then

885
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: it becomes like a imitation of Indian people. Oh god, yes, yes,

886
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: that was that was like, oh cringey.

887
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: There's a couple of those cringey moments.

888
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: But then, of course Dylan is there at exactly the

889
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: right time, and he sees Andrea and Peter back at

890
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: the motel, where Andrea is professing her love for him

891
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: and saying that she thinks that they should leave their spouses.

892
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just the tail as old as time is

893
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: what it is. Yeah, yeah, and it's I'm glad it's

894
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: blowing up because I couldn't.

895
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: Go on with this.

896
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I don't want to see any

897
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: more of that. Nobody.

898
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: Peter really comes through as a jerk.

899
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: He really does, because he thought this was like a whole,

900
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: no strings attached thing and says he's not going to

901
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: leave his wife because she's putting him through school, who he.

902
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: Had complained about to such an extreme just like two

903
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: weeks ago. But I'm like, you literally hated her two

904
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: weeks ago, so I get it.

905
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: But yet, really, yeah, he was just He says that

906
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: he didn't promise her anything. He's not the bad guy.

907
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: He didn't, he didn't.

908
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 3: But still he really.

909
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: Remember he kept saying like, let's run away and creating

910
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: all these scenarios where she should trust him.

911
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: Is that gaslighting? You know everyone talks about gaslighting.

912
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: He kind of that's just lying.

913
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: He definitely strung her along, Like I don't find.

914
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: Her promising without promising a future.

915
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: So what is that.

916
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a word for it. It's not gaslighting,

917
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: because it's not I don't find something crazy.

918
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: For feeling befuddled by the whole, like going, wait what

919
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: like it was an abrupt turn.

920
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: Yes, And I was with her.

921
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: Going, this guy is gonna leave his wife for her?

922
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

923
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: So then when he just suddenly is like not only

924
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: does he say it, he's a d word about it,

925
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm done with you a day.

926
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm imagining that they like turned up the volume on

927
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: that on his character there just so that they could

928
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: have an end.

929
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: Yes, they had to because we were all like, we

930
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: like him, Yeah, together, we had to get rid of him.

931
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Dylan is there too, Console Andrea.

932
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 2: Guys that you cannot tell me those two are not

933
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 2: in love with each other like that.

934
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: It's a great scene. It was. It was a great

935
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: show overall. Really enjoyed it.

936
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: Yes, because like they were so connected. He is so

937
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: he is the boyfriend that comes running to save her

938
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: from her a stake, and he's the way he hugs her,

939
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: the way they I am obsessed with them.

940
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: Oh, he's her David, he's her David, working.

941
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: I just see them as really good friends. I don't

942
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: see I don't see the chemistry that you guys are

943
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: talking about. I just see them as like friends, like real.

944
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 2: Would you have just been like no, if they would

945
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: have just suddenly started kissing, it wouldn't.

946
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: Have worked for me, just because, yeah, I know, you

947
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: can put yourself out of it.

948
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: You're you, You're Kelly.

949
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: No.

950
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: But even as Kelly, I just as a viewer, I

951
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: don't see what you're talking about. I see him being

952
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: the greatest friend to her and like a big brother

953
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: to her, watching out for her, being kind to her.

954
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: I never ever, ever saw even the glimpse of sexual attention.

955
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: I was very against it too. I don't even know,

956
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: just physically like the idea of the two of them.

957
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 3: But then when Amy explained it, I'm like, oh, some

958
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: and I think.

959
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: Because you're Kelly and we know, yes, they are meant

960
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 2: to be Kelly and Dylan, and they were any back.

961
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: Kelly and Dylan at all. And that's not even with this.

962
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. I'm just talking about what

963
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: I've seen as a viewer, right, I'm not seeing what

964
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: you're seeing. But that's the great thing about the show.

965
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: Is that it's all, you know, subjective, and.

966
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 3: I feel it more from him to her than oh

967
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: my god, Oh my god.

968
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: I was just about to say that.

969
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: But what you're feeling is like kindness, and that can

970
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: be mistaken for feelings of a different kind. But I

971
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: really don't see it possibly true. You might be right

972
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: to let listeners let us.

973
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 3: Know, and more than three of you, please please.

974
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: Weigh in on the Dylan Andrea.

975
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: I like see where you're coming from.

976
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: Best friends like, but if Amy hadn't like said the

977
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 3: word intimacy, like there is something intimate about their relationship.

978
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: Yes, I and Tori, I agree with you. I think

979
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: he loves her. Yeah, this is weird, and I think

980
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: she just would never it's the it's the it's the

981
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: quarterback has fallen in love with the nerd. Do you

982
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Yes, like he loves it's what's

983
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: that Freddy Print's movie with uh ah Rachel all that.

984
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: Yes, it's the she usually cook.

985
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: I don't know there's something there where I'm like, he

986
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: loves her.

987
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: Man anyway, It's just fun and I'm so here. I'm

988
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: so glad you're in. We uh We have another episode

989
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: next week. It's called Oh this is Unreal World.

990
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: Is anyone exhausted from this one?

991
00:52:59,600 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: Ah?

992
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need like a little break. It was a

993
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: lot to process and just like when it was over,

994
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it happened. Same and then where do

995
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: you go from there? Like how does don ever feel

996
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: safe again in the apartment?

997
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 2: And Tory, can you look at that performance and go

998
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: ouh pretty good?

999
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: Oof? I have to close my eyes and.

1000
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: Say it, yes, yeah, yeah, you have to close your

1001
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: eyes to compliment yourself.

1002
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know that's hard for me. But I

1003
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: watched it and I was like, oh, I'm gonna be

1004
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: scared to watch this. And I watched I was like, oh,

1005
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 3: it was good. Good.

1006
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: That makes me think about like I think about like

1007
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: justin Timberlake's new song and he's always like kind of

1008
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: listening to his own song and like you see musicians

1009
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: all the time like I'm hearing my own song and

1010
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm jamming to it. I'm good. But actors are always.

1011
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I can't watch myself, like yeah, it's so true.

1012
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 2: Interesting thing, right dance Next.

1013
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: Week Unreal World is that the one where we do

1014
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: the faux real world in the beach permit.

1015
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I believe so, Oh my god, I forgot about this.

1016
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was literally, Oh my gosh, MTVS.

1017
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: What is it?

1018
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: Real world? The real world?

1019
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: The real world?

1020
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: But was this a popular episode? Did you like the

1021
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: unreal World?

1022
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: Do you remember?

1023
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 5: You?

1024
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 3: Guys not hated. I think they laughed at its favorite

1025
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: that like, we do a reality show within our show

1026
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 3: that like wasn't done back then, So there's something cool

1027
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: about it. But I think at the time people were like,

1028
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: what is happening?

1029
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: It was too meta for them.

1030
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 3: There you go. It still so good?

1031
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: Is well?

1032
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: That was a great episode. Love ten really hurt? How Yeah?

1033
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: You give it a ten? Ten ten ten.

1034
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: It's a ten ten ten because the scary storyline, Donna's

1035
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 2: storyline is a ten. Dylan and Andrea and Jesse ten

1036
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: and mel and Jackie. I gotta go ten.

1037
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: It was winning on every level.

1038
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: Exactly missed you?

1039
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: That was it? Oh yeah, it would have been.

1040
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: I didn't miss her, Oh I did. I had so

1041
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: much other things to keep me preoccupied.

1042
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: When does Jamie Walters come back?

1043
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh great question.

1044
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 3: Just two nights ago, someone stopped me on the street

1045
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: and they were like, oh wait wait, I live near

1046
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: your friend. And I was like, oh, who rap through it?

1047
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 5: And I was like.

1048
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: Jamie Walters, Oh yes, yes, do you still keep in

1049
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 3: touch with them? I said I do. And then he goes, okay, great,

1050
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: and then he goes, how's Kelly. I was like, Jenny's

1051
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 3: doing great? Am kidding? Wait?

1052
00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: Who was this?

1053
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 3: Where was this? This was on Ventura in Woodland Hills

1054
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 3: after I got my hair done. And no it wasn't

1055
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 3: after I got my hair done. Sorry. I was with Stella.

1056
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: She was getting a piercing and the guy stopped and

1057
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: then he took and went to his car to get

1058
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 3: a camera to take a picture. And Sella was like,

1059
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: that was really creepy. I was like, no, it's okay.

1060
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 3: He's just that happens fans. It's hard for them sometimes

1061
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: to know the difference.

1062
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: I love that though.

1063
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: I love every second of that.

1064
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: Everybody, We will see you next week. Have a good one.