1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Coming up with a Get Loud Podcasts presented by Seat Geek. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: It's mander madness. I call it bracatology. Oh, I'm run 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: the work. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 3: Yes, we're taking all of the players ever in history, 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: and we're putting the man versus man until we get. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: To the fight off the champion fight count down. Welcome 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: back to another edition of the Get. 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Loud Podcasts presented by Seat Geek, where it's smooth and jinks. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: That's smoot, I'm jinks. Ready. This is mander madness and 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: it's bracketology in a Washington way. 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Yes, now there's gonna be a ton of debate about this. 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 1: First of all, fans, yes, get this out there. 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: Please do not take this so serious. 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: We're putting the best players in teen history against each 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: other in a format of let's just say, almost a 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: final four bracket. 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Yes, so good, go eliminate good and most of these things. 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: To get to the pinnacle guys, the final four guys, 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 3: all right, and then we'll pick a winner on the offense, 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 3: a winner on the defense. 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, these are all the greats, right, Yes, so it ain't. 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: It ain't a bad choice either way. You make mine. 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: If you agree, disagree, let us know, because we obviously 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: want to hear what you think. So let's just start 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the bracket. 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Let's do it the quarterbacks. 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna list five here, all right, even though technically 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: the should be four. 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: But I think we have one area where we disagree. 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: Sonny, oh, Sammy, Yeah, yeah, Mark Rippin. 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: Slinging Sammy. People forget yeah, oh that's right, slinging Sammy. Yeah. 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: Doug Williams and Joey T. People forget that thisman used 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: to return punts. Look at his average. I still can't 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: believe that he averages like. 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: Seven yards to punt return. 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: Yes, Joe, thisman used to return punts after like quarterback and. 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: He's playing the CFL, which is crazy, Yes, crazy to you. 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, here, you know I'm a Doug Williams guy. 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: I'm a dougger, all right, I'm a dougger in this one. 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: And we what got Doug william versus Joe Thizman. 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: I think we all agree it's Sammy, it's Sonny, right, 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 4: and then rip or do you or do you go 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: Joey T and Doug Williams and leave our rip? 44 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: How you're gonna leave out a Super Bowl winning quarterback. 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: That's all right, let's do Let's do the four first, 46 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: and let's just leave rip out this. Okay, Okay, you're 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: going Sammy versus Sonny. Who are you taking there? 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: I'm taking Sammy. 49 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: Me too, Okay, alright, so Sammy bah okay, moves forward? 50 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: All right? 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: All right, now we got Joe Thizes me, Doug will Williams. 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: I have to go Doug. 53 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'll take Joey t sweet split the difference, 54 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: all right, you know what I mean. I mean I 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: was looking at this and I was just like, man, 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: either way I lose, you know not, Yeah, this is not. 57 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: You can make that. Okay, we got to move on 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: to receiver. 59 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: We start with Gary Clark taking on Art Monk, the 60 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: posse versus the posse. 61 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 3: And you know what, when it comes to these wide receivers, 62 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: I think we're leaving a lot. 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: Of guys out. We are. That's the thing. 64 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: Think about it, Pierre go Song leaving them out, the 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: Shawn Jackson leaving them out. 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: Uh, like, guys, guys, you're leaving them out. That's like 67 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: every year when the tournament fields set and they say, 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: how did this team. 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: Not make the feel it happens every every year, So 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: I for a wide receivers are Gary Clark, Art Monk, 71 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: Santana Moss, Charlie Taylor. 72 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: Start with Gary taking on Art. Oh my god. 73 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: You know, Gary numbers for a lot of those years 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: were better than Arts. It's true, you know, he kind 75 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: of revolutionized the slot position. 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: He was better run out of the catch. Imagine today 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: we were talking with him about this a three weeks ago. Yes, 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: I might have to go with the quiet man himself. 79 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: Are you Arthur Monart? Let's go Art, I'm going Art. 80 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: We can go Art? Right, man? Had he been? 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean, his numbers speak for themselves. But that was 82 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: the whole, not the knock on Art. It was just 83 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: that he just went out and did his job, this 84 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: is it. 85 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: And go home. 86 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: And some guys are good at that, all right? That 87 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: Why didn't guys like me to talk on their behalf? 88 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: Santana Moss taking on Charlie Taylor, This one is hard. 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: I know, I know, people forget how good Charlie Taylor was. 90 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: Exception He was exceptional, you know. Santana is my running 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: that's what the guy. 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: That's my guy. 93 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna have to probably give Charlie Taylor Tony 94 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: on this one, and now we're left with Art Monk 95 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 3: and Charlie Taylor. 96 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: Charlie Taylor, Ryan wi you, I mean, if you're a 97 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: young buck out there, no, Charlie, Charlie. 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: Charlie Taylor was most definitely I would go Charlie Taylor. 99 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: That's where I'm going right there. I'm going Charlie Taylor. 100 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: That's a tough It's tough too. It's gonna be tough 101 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: with all of these, well, especially. 102 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: With someone like Santana, because we love Santana and his 103 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: and he was a hell. 104 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: His legacy is fairly new compare to Charlie Taylor. So 105 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: that's why I say he's fresh on that mind when 106 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: Charlie is not. 107 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: No, It's very true. Man, here's another one. I was 108 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: not looking forward to this. I'm excited to do this segment. 109 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: At the same time, I was like, man, you. 110 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: Know you might get a college. 111 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: I was like, this guy needs to know his history. 112 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, guys, I know difficult. It's difficult. 113 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: Running back, Rigo b Mitch, Stephen Davis, Bobby Mitchell. 114 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, listen, all right, if I gotta look 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: on because I'd like to ask myself. Who could I 116 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: plug and play today? B Mitch is the second all 117 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: time leader in yard's total. 118 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: Could do it all. 119 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: He can be a first down back, a third down back, 120 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: plus turn around and return punts and kickoffs. In today's football, 121 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: B Mitch would be more celebrated than the other game. 122 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: Yes, it is his game. Is is actually more suited 123 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: for today? Yes? 124 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: Yes, like he would be a three down starting back 125 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: right now before John Reagans. I hate to tell you 126 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: that it's true. I'm just saying so if I had 127 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: to go right here, Rigo, b Mitch tough, all of 128 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: these are tough. I'm going Brian Mitchell. Okay, I'm sorry, 129 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to be Mitch. This is where I'm going. 130 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Rigo. All right, I'm gonna go Rigo. 131 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: Seventy Chick is a letter. But here's the thing. 132 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: You're right though, because if you're talking about pure running back, yes, 133 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: especially back in the eighties when the running back was 134 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: the centerpiece, he was that guy. 135 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: Every talking about today's game, be Mitch. 136 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: Can do everything everything, and I felt like he did 137 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: more with less chances. Yes, I would have to maximize 138 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: and say I could go into a game plan as 139 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: a head coach with b Mitch in my backfield, and 140 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: I can do anything I want to do. 141 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: You're not wrong. 142 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: And also can we just say once again be Mitch 143 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: needs to be a Hall of Famer most definitely. 144 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: I've said this many times. 145 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: And the father he gets away from it because they 146 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: just let Devin Hester in there. 147 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: How you're gonna put Devin Heston in there? And but 148 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: how can you not put him? 149 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's just like Patrick Willis. I 150 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: love Pat. He played at Old Miss, he played eight 151 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: years in the NFL. Right, alright, London Fletcher played a thousand. 152 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: His stats match right. If you say Ray Lewis is 153 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: the ultimate end all be all when it comes to linebackers, 154 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: London has to be right there, and. 155 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: No question about it. Stephen Davis taking on Bobby Mitchell 156 00:07:59,000 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: in the bottom hand. 157 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: Stephen David was my first running back when I got 158 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: him country. 159 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: That's my boy. 160 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: You want to talk about run downhill to hurt people, 161 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: He ran downhill to hurt people, all right, very physical back. 162 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: I had to take him on in practice. 163 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: I remember when I first got here, I held out 164 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: for like three days or so because I want him. 165 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: I wanted my money and UH, coach may De Shatte 166 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: and I were like, we know he can go. We 167 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: just drafted, we know he can cover. Can he tackle? 168 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: Puts me at middle lineback on goal line? 169 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 170 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: With Donnail Bennett at full back and Stephen Davis at tailback. 171 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: I asked Bruce Smill, like, what should I do? Run? 172 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: He was like, go in that hole and die is 173 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: ever saying. 174 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: He say, don't you wait on them, You come to them, 175 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: And I understood what he means, get them for they 176 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: get started. 177 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you don't want him having to have a Steve 178 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: coming at you. And they kicked me out the club. 179 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: At one Saturday five. They kicked me out of the club. 180 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: I would have to go Bobby Mitchell. 181 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was Hall of Famer. 182 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: I would say, hall of Famer, Bobby Mitchell. Uh to 183 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: the end, I'll be out Like my backfield right now 184 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: is BM versus BM. Okay, Brian Mitchell versus Bobby Mitchell. 185 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: Where you going? Oh my god? I had to go Bobby. 186 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: I think I mean he was great. Yeah, I have 187 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: to go Bobby Mitchell on that one. It's probably Bobby. 188 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: I'll say this I'm gonna go Rigo. 189 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, just because Bobby played a lot of receiver as well, right. 190 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: Like he That means he know it's true. It's it's 191 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: somebody's gotta choose Wriggle. 192 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: I'll go with Riga all right. I'm gonna pay some 193 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: bills real quick. Get back to it. Honda, guys, we 194 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: love Honda. 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Oh man, you talk about 215 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: making a tough choice. 216 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: It's Mandermania. And again we want you guys to comment. 217 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. If there's someone we're 218 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: not mentioning, put that in there as well. This is 219 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: gonna cause a lot of debate, the good. 220 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: Kind on the offense of line. 221 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you ready to choose between Jojacoby and Russ Grimm. 222 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 3: Ain't that the hardest thing? Oh my god, that this 223 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: This is very, very hard. And you didn't throw the 224 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: Chris Samuels in the world. You didn't throw the Trent 225 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: Williams end of the world. It's just some guys that 226 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 3: you didn't. 227 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: The only reason Trent was in there originally but the 228 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: bulk of his work. But we drafted him. He's our guy. 229 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: He's our guy, all right. He was. 230 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: He was a borderline Hall of Famer when he left here. Right, 231 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, I had to 232 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: go Jojacoby. I love Jojacoby, great person, man, I love him. 233 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: So I had to go Jojacoby. Right there, I'm gonna 234 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: go Russ Grim. You just like to go against me. 235 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: I just honestly, I was like, whoever chooses, because it 236 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: don't matter. It doesn't matter either one tho. It's like 237 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: one A and one one exactly exactly tight end. 238 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: Now I have to say I literally had to put 239 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: somebody into my tight end thing because I felt like 240 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: you left him. 241 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: Off, okay, and it's Jordan Reid. 242 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: Okay, I had to throw him in the mint. Jordan 243 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: Reid is the biggest IF. 244 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, that's the only thing holding him back. 245 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: Right, He's the biggest IF in Washington history. I think 246 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: when it comes to if he would have stayed healthy, 247 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: he nobody could stop him. He was smooth route running. 248 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: I think if he don't get hurt, he goes down 249 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: as the best tight end to ever play in the 250 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: Washington Jersey. 251 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 2: Is that right? Simple as debt? All right? 252 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: So I had to scratch somebody out, yeah, and put 253 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: him in mind because I think he's the epitome of 254 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: the tight end. Like they couldn't stop him. He was 255 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 3: basically Davonte Adams at tight end. 256 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I remember covering him, and it was 257 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: if he's healthy, nobody could stop. Yeah. Yeah, like he 258 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: was an absolute force. He just couldn't. Wasn't it concussions? 259 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: Was it becaussion? 260 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: Yes, a couple of health problems. But uh, you got 261 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: Rick the doctor and walk up. 262 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: I like Chris Cooley. Yeah, docs, my dude. 263 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: All right, see, and this is why I say I 264 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: played with Chris. I love Chris. I feel like Jordan 265 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: Reid is better. 266 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 2: That's fair. 267 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: So Jordan Reid moves on in mind, Okay, I like that. 268 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: I'm going, Doc, Wat's my guy? 269 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: Huh, I understand? All right. We finished with the offensive side, 270 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: all right. I added some guys on defense too. We 271 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: had we had a couple of open slides. 272 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: This is gonna be even tougher here, No, it's gonna 273 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: be terribly tough. Oh man, look at your add guys 274 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: as we speak. Yeah, I am, oh yeah, it's. 275 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: Man to madness. Let us know what you think here. 276 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna pick a winner on the offensive side. We're 277 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: gonna pick a winner on the defensive. 278 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: Side, and now we're going to. 279 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: The defensive lines. Mooth, Yes, John Allen, Charle's Man. I'm 280 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: taking Charle's Man. 281 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: Are you okay? Oh yeah, I am. I hate to 282 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 2: beat a barrel of bad news. 283 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: And plus John Allen steel at his quota, he's stilling 284 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 3: to his legacy where Child's Man is a Super Bowl 285 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: winner and an anchor on the defensive line with Dexter Manley. 286 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: That that that put they they literally show. 287 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: Come on if that Washington ninety two team got voted 288 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: the best team of all times. Sorry, it's gonna be 289 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: hard to pick against those players. 290 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Charles man too. 291 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to go John Allen, but you can see 292 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: that perhaps that long term, maybe John Allen is that 293 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: dude because he's a hell of a football player. 294 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: But right now I think you have to go Charles Mann. 295 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: We gotta go there, which brings us to Dexter Manley 296 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: and Ryan Carrigan. 297 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: The numbers say Ryan carrer the name says Dixter Manly. 298 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: Yes, because see I understand Dexter Manley says. 299 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, tone sailer rule breaker, 300 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 5: I'm going extra man Okay, I'm going Dexter Manley because 301 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 5: when I say the word Dexter, you don't even have 302 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 5: to say Manly, just say Dexter. 303 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,119 Speaker 2: You know who it is. And I think. 304 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: If I asked, the only guy could putally tell me 305 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: this give me the great insight on this. 306 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: Will probably be the Joseph coach Gibbs. 307 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: Okay, because he coached both of these guys, Kerrigan and 308 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: Man Yep, I would have to say Dexter had the more, 309 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: I guess, big plays in big games. 310 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would have to go Dexter here. I 311 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: had to go Dexter. 312 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna go Ryan Kerrigan. Oh really, here's what 313 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: I feel like. I feel like in his prime, which 314 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: was a short prime, Yeah, but Dexter was just a 315 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: dominant force. Yeah he was. He was just an absolute terror. Yeah, 316 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: he was a terror and you just could not stop him. 317 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give I'm gonna give Ryan Carrigan the 318 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: advantage here because of his long give and his consistency. 319 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like Dexter played the run a lot 320 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: better than carry. The one thing about carrying is people 321 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: they realize he's a hell of a pass rusher. Yeah, 322 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: we need to run at him. Yeah, and that was 323 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: his achilles Heill. You couldn't run it, Dexter, right, So 324 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm just saying the most complete player here is stopping 325 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: to run and rushing the past is Dexter Manley. 326 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: So that brings us to Charles Man, Dexter Manley, Ryan 327 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Carrigan on my end, who advances I. 328 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: Got Dexter Manley over Chard's Man. Oh, I'm gonna go 329 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: Charles Man over Ryan. Yeah. 330 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 3: I hey, listen, I understand I would go Dexter here. 331 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: So Dexter moves on in mind. Okay, I'm gonna give 332 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: it to Charles Man. But though, yeah, those choices there. 333 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: Time to go to linebacker. We start with London Fletcher, 334 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: my guy, future Hall of Famer, by the way, it 335 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: should be in Hall of Famer. Yeah, Sam off, now 336 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: see here, go to thing. 337 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: Okay. 338 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: I used to see it when I got his rookie. 339 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 3: We used to have his couch out there, and Sam 340 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: and Sonny was set on his couch and I would 341 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: go over there and sit with them, and they would 342 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: tell me the funniest stories. 343 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: Oh I bet ah. 344 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: They were some of the great stories you ever won't 345 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: And I love London London is my guy. 346 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: You know that. Oh yeah, I'm basically running his campaign 347 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: to get him in the Sam Huff way. People white 348 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: forget how good Sam Huff was. Man, this is hard. 349 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: This could be the hardest one I'd have had so far. 350 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: Where you're going, Oh, man, I'm going back and forth 351 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: on this one. I kind of want to give it 352 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: to London. I'll tell you what thing, Sam, They're both 353 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: amazing players. I think the one thing that blows me 354 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: away about London is how much he played, how long? 355 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: And that's what I mean, the longevity. People forget he game, 356 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. 357 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: Like, that's it. 358 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: That's unheard of in the National Football League because the average, 359 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: I believe the average in the NFL's but three and 360 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: a half years. 361 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: Three years. Yeah, the NFL stands for not for long. 362 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 363 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: So imagine not only having the career that he had, 364 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: but also not missing any games. 365 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: It's the most physical position playing at that level. Yes, 366 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm going London fled. 367 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: Some because of that. I'm gonna give the edge to London. 368 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: I'm most definitely am now on the next group, I 369 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: had to scratch one of your guys out. Okay, as 370 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 3: you put Brian wrackpo I love a rack Pole deepest 371 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: voice I ever heard, like it sounded. 372 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: Like the Candy Man. But I had to. I had 373 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: to put LeVar. Oh you put LeVar in there? Okay? Yeah, 374 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: I feel like LeVar resume here was longer, okay. 375 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: And I had to put LeVar Arrington and substitute him 376 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: for Brian and Rackpoe to go against Chris Hanburger. 377 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: Where are you going? I'm going LeVar? Everrython are you 378 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm going LeVar everything? 379 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: Because I had a chance of playing with some of 380 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: the freakiest athletes I've never saw. Like I remember walking 381 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: into the huddling Sean Taylor was standing beside LaVar and 382 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: they was the same as exercize. Then I look and 383 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 3: then one time I walk in the hood, I got Chimp, Bailey. 384 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: Dale Green and LeVar. 385 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: These are just first class athletes. And I do feel 386 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: like this from the bottom of my heart. If we 387 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: use LeVar as really like a just true pass rush 388 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: and not making him stand up and play stand up linebacker. 389 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he a Hall of Fame, you think so, it 390 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: ain't no doubt. Man, listen to me. 391 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: You're talking about six four two hundred and fifty five 392 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: pounds four four forty inch vertical. It ain't too much 393 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: this dude could not do. Now at the end of 394 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: the day, of course he had his injuries and stuff 395 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: he went to. But at the end of the day, 396 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: I think LeVar was special, and I think we kind 397 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: of hindered him from being special by having him playing 398 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 3: all over the field instead of just putting his hand 399 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: in the dirt and go get people quarterback. 400 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: I gotta go with Chris Handberger, I understand. I mean, 401 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: the guy was unbelievable. 402 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the greatest members of this franchise of 403 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: all time. And I think the way I look at 404 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: LeVar is sort of the way I look at Jordan 405 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: Reed in that and I know other different players, but 406 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: it's it's that man work, not for injuries. 407 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: Or maybe it's that. 408 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: If it's the if all right, you had all of 409 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: the physical talent, and it certainly had some some great 410 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: great game, no question about that. But I'm gonna go 411 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: Chris Hamburger. So everyone fletch Chris Hamburger. 412 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: Who's the guy. 413 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 3: See, I got Flitch against LeVar, and Flitch winsday. 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I 447 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: would already seen them in like the semi finals or something. 448 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: And you got a lot of which I don't blame you. 449 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: There's so many names you can put on this list. 450 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: We're talking about cornerbacks, yeah, or safety if you want, 451 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: just secondary Yeah, I mean. 452 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: Think about this. 453 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: Sean Taylor, Dale Green, Champ Bailey One, Frederick Smooth, D'Angelo Hall, 454 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: Deon Sander, Sean Springs, la Ron Landry Brad Awards. I'm 455 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: talking about guy, the guy, the guy, the guy. We 456 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: are And we got one position right here. We draft 457 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: corners and DB's better than pretty much in the team. 458 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: Ain't into that. 459 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's start. That's a tough one. Sean Taylor 460 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: Darryl Green. This is impossible. 461 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 2: Can I put Shaun Green in there? You can, Daryl Taylor? 462 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 463 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: This one is Hall of Famer versus versus another if 464 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: and one guy that was headed to the Hall of Fame. Yes, 465 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 3: you got one guy that was the fastest cornerback ever 466 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: to play the game. You got one guy possibly was 467 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 3: the biggest free safety ever to play the game, plus 468 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: best absolete. 469 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. Could I like plete the physical you 470 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: complete the fifth the field? 471 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna the field on this when I 472 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 3: can't do it. I can't pick between d Green and 473 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 3: Sean Taylor. 474 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: I can't do it. Now. I get that. I'm I 475 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go d Green. 476 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: I understand, but I understand everyone knows that had Sean played. 477 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: He was talking about too yellow Jack. Yes, there's no question. 478 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: So now it's your preference, right, it's your preference on this, 479 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: no question. And if I look down the reel wheel, 480 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: because we have Jefton Connor, so well it's guys you 481 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: can plug again for Darryl. 482 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: I don't think you've got no guy you can plug 483 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: again for Shun just because of the physical specimen that 484 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: he was. I'm sorry. 485 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 3: So like for every for the Darrel Green's you got 486 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: the Champ Bailey's for for the Seun you got Shun. 487 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: He's the standard, right, It's safety when it comes to here, right. So, uh, 488 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: that's why I say it make it hard for me. 489 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 3: So I'm a basically like, I don't nobody get fault 490 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: you man. 491 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. He's a legend. I'm gonna stay 492 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: up out of that one Champ Bailey versus one Frederick Smooth. 493 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: That felt so good. 494 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: That was my running mate when I got here, A Champ. 495 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: I love Champ and I'm just gonna be honest with myself. 496 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: I'm picking Champ Bailey. I'm gonna pick Champ right there. 497 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: And because I didn't pick the last one, I don't 498 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: know who he's gonna be going against. Fare Dale Green 499 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: are Sean Taylor. Let me ask you a personal question, 500 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: who would you take Champ Bayley Dale Green? 501 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: I'm going Dale Green even. 502 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: Though Champ had like two times more interceptions then yes. 503 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: But if you look at spending most of his time 504 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: here like Darryl Green, he's the epitome. 505 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: He's the epitome. Yeah, he's the epitome. 506 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: When when you think of the greats of this franchise 507 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: of all time. 508 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's right there. 509 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So what if it was Sean Taylor versus Champ Bailey. 510 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: God, you're making this so tough. Give me make tough decision. 511 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, kidding, it might be, it might be. 512 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: I think it might be Sean. 513 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, Like I revere Darryl Green in 514 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: a way that I think anyone who appreciates football does 515 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: and know, even though I love Champ, but because he 516 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: didn't spend all of his time here, because he went to. 517 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: Them, Yes, come on, you can't hold it against it 518 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: against him. 519 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if we're talking about how you did 520 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: as part of this franchise, all right, so it's only 521 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: what you did here. 522 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: That's the way I'm looking right, alright, alright, So I'm like, if. 523 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about total career, that changes the conversation for me. 524 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: But I'm looking at it like it's like we were 525 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: talking about with Trent Williams. Yeah, like Trent's Trin's Hall 526 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: of Famer. Yeah, But I made my decision based on 527 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: the fact, well. 528 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Is he a forty nine er? Yes, because if he 529 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: goes to the Hall. You know what. Yeah, he's probably 530 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: goes forty nine. Yeah, you know what I mean? So 531 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: I actually go Sean there though. 532 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: All right, so I'm lining up with Champ versus two people, 533 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: Sean Tayling, Day Green. Now I feel my last bottom 534 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: bracket because I talk about this because I think you're 535 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: forgetting about the Hall. Yes, I think how quickly people 536 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: get the Hall resonates as a Washington player, not as 537 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: a falcon, yes, not as a raider, as a Washington player. 538 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: He got he got that ball with them four interceptions 539 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. As a Washington player, I 540 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: got d Hall versus Shun Spring, Oh what. 541 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: Are you talking? Sean could play Seun of course had 542 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: more sacks. 543 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: Sean could play inside. Shun was very studious. But I 544 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: think most people would probably say the Hall. Yeah, I 545 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 3: think most people would probably say D Hall. And I 546 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: left my last two slots for safeties, okay, because everybody 547 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: seems to forget about my homeboard to Selo Brad Edwards. 548 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: Everybody forgets about the Atwich and I got him head 549 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: to head against le Ron Landry. I got ITW's winning, 550 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: oh d I got Brad winning. Okay, I'm sorry, two 551 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 3: interceptions in that playof game. 552 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: Yep. So I wish at the Super Bowl. All right, 553 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: I'm going Brad Edwards right there, Okay, So D Hall Edwards, 554 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: D Hall, D Hall. 555 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going d Hall because man, D how May 556 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: plays man, I'm sorry, he gonna give him up, but 557 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: he gonna make them too. 558 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: And also, and you can ENLiGHT me on this, but 559 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: I've had multiple people tell me that in the locker room, 560 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: D Hall was very like most guys respect us to 561 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: be a part of that team, but D Hall was 562 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: definitely special in that respect. 563 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: The Hall gonna take up for his guys, and I 564 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 3: loved it. We always had that way about us. And 565 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: that's what I didn't like about the defensive backfield this year. 566 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: They didn't take up for each other. Like it ain't 567 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: no way. If I'm playing against the Eagles and A. J. 568 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: Brown and I'm a rookie, yeah, and Chump and D 569 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 3: Green see me over there getting beat up on that, 570 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: they just gonna sit back and let it happen. 571 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: Right. 572 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: They would have said, scoot over, rookie, let me handle 573 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: this kid. We're gonna say you for next week. So 574 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: I like the Hall was like that. So all of 575 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: us was like that. 576 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna move on. Yeah, Dale Green? Were you 577 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: going to move on? 578 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna move on. I'm gonna move on Dale Green. 579 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: You I'm gonna move on Darrell Green because yeah, I 580 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: got Darrell old chump. I got Darre all over d 581 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: Hall Okay, so d Green here, okay? 582 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: Uh. 583 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: I got to ask myself. London Fletcher addiction to Manly. 584 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: I got London Fletcher all right, got him? 585 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: All right. 586 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: So now what we're gonna do is we're gonna pay 587 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: those bills in order to come back, and we're just 588 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: gonna pick the best offensive player and the best defensive player. 589 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: All right, you ready, I'm gonna give you time to 590 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: think about it. 591 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: All right, please do, sir. I'll give you no time. Man, 592 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: that's a tough one. 593 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 1: And let us know what you think. 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So Commanders fans can fans all. 617 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: Right, hecking sick hacket sack a. 618 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: So now, yes, we have to pick a winner on 619 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: one side and a winner on the other. 620 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: All right, We're going to start. This is this is 621 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: our final four right here, this. 622 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: Is our final countdown. Here we go. All right, so 623 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: now down the final two. Really I got my final 624 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: two on offense. Oh, you're a final two. Okay. 625 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: I'm on my final two. And I got Doug Williams versus. 626 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: H versus two Bobby Mitchell. 627 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 3: Oh shoot, okay, yeah, I got Doug Williams versus Bobby Mitchell. 628 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm taking the dugger. You're taking the dugger. 629 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 3: Oh really, I'm taking Doug Williams as my offensive champion. 630 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: Oh I love it. Yeah, that's what I'm at. What 631 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: about you? I'm going between Rigo and Sammy Baugh. He's 632 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: probably going Sammy Bab. I'm going Sammy Ball. I knew it. 633 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: He had sam I mean, I know his old school. 634 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: But if you look at what he did and when 635 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: this guy was punting, he was playing defense. He's playing 636 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: and everything he did and probably smoked a cigarette, smoked 637 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: between quarters. 638 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: He was like, let me fight out up and heat 639 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: and probably get another interception here. 640 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: Yes, and probably went to work his regular job after 641 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: the game. 642 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like that. So Sammy Bab is your 643 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: offensive winner? 644 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: What about defense? Defense? 645 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: Alright, who are my final two? I got D Green? 646 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: We both have Degreen, D Green, and I. 647 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: Think I have Chris Hanburger Or did I choose Fletch? 648 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: I say I got Fletcher London Fletcher versus Day are Green? 649 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: I think that's yeah. I like Fletch too, So it's 650 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: London D Green. Where you going? 651 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: The Green? He's the standard for defense here. I got 652 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: Doug Williams and Daryl Green head the head at the end. 653 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: I'm right there, except I got Sammy and D Green. 654 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: So you got Sammy and D Green? Who winds? I 655 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: still got D Green. I mean I watched I watched 656 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: the highlight. What was it? 657 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: I was just doing some digging around on YouTube and 658 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: he was. So that's the one thing when you talk 659 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: about one thing that can't be replicated was his speed. 660 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: And it was an old highlight of Tony dor set 661 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: and just ran and Tony could obviously play. 662 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: I mean I was a running back and D Green 663 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: just ran him down. 664 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 3: My favorite D Green thing that I looked up was 665 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: a Herschel walker. Remember him and Herschel raced in the 666 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl. 667 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. 668 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: So so to watch D Green humble him and smoke 669 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 3: him like that and smoke him. 670 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: I was so I would like, thanks, D Green, you did. 671 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: You did America a favor right there, all right by 672 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: by getting her Shawalker off his high horse. Because there's 673 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: been a lot of overrated players in here, but nobody 674 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: talks about how overrated Herschelwalker was. Oh yeah, he had 675 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: a he had a hell of a college career. Oh yeah, 676 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: he's stunk as a pro. I'm sorry. 677 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: Best years when the USFL And that's why D Green, 678 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: as I do de Green, we did it. Let us 679 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: know what you're thinking the comments. 680 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: Who's gonna be the first person to say, I can't believe. 681 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: We want to hear few it s Vandermania. That's French mood. 682 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm Michael Jenkins. Thanks for being with us. See next time. 683 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Have used and opinions expressed by our podcast guests and 684 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: or hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflective 685 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any of 686 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: their representatives.