Speaker 1: You can check someone's urban card. I'm gonna say urban
Speaker 1: because that's the easiest way to say it by a
Speaker 1: certain call and response. If I were to start off
Speaker 1: and say come with me, I left that blank because
Speaker 1: I know some of y'all filled that in. You're supposed
Speaker 1: to say, he'll marry run quick. See how you're so
Speaker 1: good right now? I can't good politics, y'all. Y'all, y'all.
Speaker 1: Then we go, do we have here now? Then I
Speaker 1: say do you want to ride or die? Then the
Speaker 1: whole crowd says, if you don't know, this is what
Speaker 1: you say? La da da da. You already knew. I
Speaker 1: didn't have to tell you this. Episodes called ride to
Speaker 1: Die When you won't to ride? Do you want to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you want to ride? And ride? Die on? I
Speaker 1: got a Los Angeles and Oakland legend named Bamboo. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go through our vocabulary list with you, which is
Speaker 1: ride or die? Block is hot hot head. We're gonna
Speaker 1: show you how that applies to our Iran situation, how
Speaker 1: our allies might feel. We're gonna talk about the shooting
Speaker 1: down of the Ukrainian flight. This interview with Less Partners
Speaker 1: where he sings and Lastly, how Mike Pences Takashi six nine. Enjoy,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, we want to welcome our second guest.
Speaker 1: Second person we put on Mr Bamboo da Pistole. Say
Speaker 1: what's up? Big on? Bamboo is um one of the
Speaker 1: most talented him sees I've ever known, ever met. He's
Speaker 1: a record exact business owner, husband, father, activists, just an
Speaker 1: incredible dude. Of the many things we have in common,
Speaker 1: one of those things is he's married to a woman
Speaker 1: that's way more brilliant than he is, and he's slightly
Speaker 1: scared of her. He said slightly. That's very generous. It's okay,
Speaker 1: I'm a little scared of my wife, like actually the
Speaker 1: highest of Keith. You know that makes for success, right, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that's how you have a healthy marriage. You gotta be
Speaker 1: a little scared of your wife. Yeah. Anyway, So let's
Speaker 1: let's get to it this episode called Rider Die. As
Speaker 1: we start, as the tradition is, we're gonna ask a
Speaker 1: few vocabulary questions, just let him share some stories, and
Speaker 1: then we'll go into what's happening in our politics. So first,
Speaker 1: rid Er Die Bam from historic Filipino town, Right, that's
Speaker 1: the neighborhood considered. Uh I can I call home now?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like that I'm an adopted
Speaker 1: son of Okay, okay, that makes sense. Oh yeah, because
Speaker 1: use more from like south central South ninth place in Maine.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay, So ride or die?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Oh that's a heavy one. It's
Speaker 1: a heavy one, you know, Like, uh, my generation kind
Speaker 1: of coined that term, and that was you know, the
Speaker 1: rider dive really comes from drive bys. If in my
Speaker 1: own recollection, like the only time I used to hear
Speaker 1: that was like you ready to ride, like you know,
Speaker 1: Ryan wasn't just getting in the car. It was like
Speaker 1: we're about to go do some dirt, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It was one of them like you know,
Speaker 1: you when you leave this house and you go ride,
Speaker 1: you ride with your people. Like the loyalty matters because
Speaker 1: you know something about to go down, right, guys, I
Speaker 1: mean means so many things, but yeah, follow them. It's
Speaker 1: about loyalty. At the end of the day. It's like
Speaker 1: it's us over everything here because I'm here the only
Speaker 1: way I'm out as if I'm dying, yeah, which which
Speaker 1: is a code that you know a lot of us
Speaker 1: have have lived lived by, you know, sometimes in the streets,
Speaker 1: and what's delp is like if you get to grow
Speaker 1: up and actually graduate out of that. A lot of
Speaker 1: times we apply that to like our businesses, you know,
Speaker 1: our families. You know what I'm saying. Um, I like
Speaker 1: that you say graduated from me too, It's not you know,
Speaker 1: the term survive is a term that's used and then
Speaker 1: you need to survive this, and that's cool, you know,
Speaker 1: but really this was our schooling, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I can survive in this world because of the subculture
Speaker 1: of gang banging and because like I carry those those
Speaker 1: small lessons from my ogs to this day, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Period, even when it comes to organizing people,
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh you organize now, you're square. You
Speaker 1: know you're not, you know with the set you're not. No,
Speaker 1: I'm actually banging hard now, like I'm hard. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: banging against like people we were unwilling to bang against. Listen,
Speaker 1: police show up to my neighborhood with a shotgun and
Speaker 1: to nine millimeters. We got tech nines in the bushes
Speaker 1: because right we got a k I guess what we're
Speaker 1: running when they show up in that crazy. That power
Speaker 1: dynamic is what I'm fighting. And so when I told
Speaker 1: her homies like you know, I'm banging with you know
Speaker 1: when it comes to my ideals, man shifted a little bit.
Speaker 1: But but the fervor in my in my work hasn't changed.
Speaker 1: It's it's all from games all. You know what I mean? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I said, Oh man, thanks for adding that. So in scenarios,
Speaker 1: people loyal to these the streets you was from a
Speaker 1: lot of times. One of them kids and I know
Speaker 1: my I know his name and my hood that we
Speaker 1: would call a hothead. And like you tell the people
Speaker 1: what we mean when we say this person is a hothead. Man,
Speaker 1: this is the dude who he's the He's the first
Speaker 1: to jump up and ask somebody whether they're from ho Yes,
Speaker 1: you know. He was always ready to uh you know,
Speaker 1: get down and stripes for the neighborhood. Always. And that
Speaker 1: was my all three of my first cousins who were
Speaker 1: all murdered, they were all hot heads. And yeah, yep, yep,
Speaker 1: that's what yeah, I know came came in when when
Speaker 1: you said that, you know, I got y yes again.
Speaker 1: I want to remind the listeners that like bam came
Speaker 1: in cold. He didn't know what I was gonna ask him,
Speaker 1: Like I did, give no prep. These are just things
Speaker 1: that we know just from our environments, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, yeah, there's hot heads, and I know
Speaker 1: these hot heads like it's one of the one of
Speaker 1: the things that they've always been able to do because
Speaker 1: of our rider die attitude was almost like convince us
Speaker 1: that this dude pops up, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like her check, somebody bangs on somebody and then the
Speaker 1: dude and then the dude responds all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: this hot head boy goes, hey, that guy's disrespecting us.
Speaker 1: It's like family with me us. I was just eating yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know. And and but because of like our
Speaker 1: attitude about like how our streets work, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, but damn fool like you saying
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get up and do it, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: yell at you after to tell you, man, you you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done that. You shouldn't have done that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying now. So So anyway, so these
Speaker 1: both of these situations oftentimes turned into something that like
Speaker 1: I feel like this was a phrase that was a
Speaker 1: little before my time, but we adopted it. Was like
Speaker 1: we say, like the block is hot, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Which if I ran into you and you
Speaker 1: was like and Brandon the band was like Bam was like, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: probably what you what you're doing is what you're doing
Speaker 1: this weekend, And I'm like, uh, man, I'll probably go
Speaker 1: down to you. I'm saying, I'll go down to business
Speaker 1: cousins and content, you know kind of hang band would
Speaker 1: be like, hey, be careful though it's hot down there.
Speaker 1: Tell them what you wanted me about. I wanted you
Speaker 1: that maybe uh, our neighborhood had gotten to a fund
Speaker 1: with their neighborhood's happened over the weekend. You might not
Speaker 1: know about. Yes, you're gonna step on that set and
Speaker 1: they might check you and want to claim. You know,
Speaker 1: because that's what you do. You you never backed down.
Speaker 1: You know, wherever you are, you can be a magic Mountains.
Speaker 1: Somebody said where you're from, you better say it, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: that's that's part of being in the gang. So I'm
Speaker 1: telling you that when you go down there and you
Speaker 1: claim on wherever it is, you can't you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's maybe maybe you should stay indoors. Yes, so here's so,
Speaker 1: here's our terms again. We got rid or died, we
Speaker 1: got hot, here got block, block is hot. Now tell
Speaker 1: me stories. Man, have you ever been pushed into like
Speaker 1: now you have because you wrapped about it on a
Speaker 1: few albums, but maybe tell you know without naming names,
Speaker 1: because we're not trying to get inbody each other. But
Speaker 1: like the moments you've been pushed into fights you didn't
Speaker 1: ask for it. I mean there's so many, right, I
Speaker 1: mean I got I got pushed into getting jumped into
Speaker 1: the neighborhood there we get started there like a couple
Speaker 1: of my my friends were getting jumped in and I
Speaker 1: was young. I was like twelve. My uncle's drunk, you know,
Speaker 1: and and it was like you gotta be down, and
Speaker 1: they was pushing and pushing and pushing, I mean literally pushing,
Speaker 1: like getting that circle. We're about to get this thing popping.
Speaker 1: So that was the first time I ever got to something.
Speaker 1: And then when we talk about hot heads, you know,
Speaker 1: I got a cousin and I'll say his name, and
Speaker 1: my cousin, Ronnie. If you listen to this, I'm putting
Speaker 1: you out there definitely, you know, he's definitely got me
Speaker 1: into something. And quite opposite of telling me the block
Speaker 1: is how he wouldn't say nothing. He would just be like, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna ride and then we see somebody and and
Speaker 1: his whole mood change, like, what's up? I got it?
Speaker 1: I got into it that dude so and so and
Speaker 1: so I'm like, damning know what I'm saying. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I got a bunch of stories like that,
Speaker 1: but that that's the one that stands out to you.
Speaker 1: I got pushed into getting put on the hood, you know.
Speaker 1: So when I was fourteen, I got jumped in again
Speaker 1: just because you know, at the time of twelve was
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't, I didn't I got my cigarette
Speaker 1: Bernard for that was the first incident I can remember
Speaker 1: where it was a combination of peer pressure and the
Speaker 1: O g's kind of pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just now like telling some stories that I didn't
Speaker 1: realize the reason that I actually blocked out. I just didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, we were from at least my grandmother was
Speaker 1: on seventy third in San Petro, who was on the
Speaker 1: east side of South Central you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the east of the one tin between Yeah, so between
Speaker 1: like Florence and Maine. Uh yeah, Florence and with Florence,
Speaker 1: Maine with a cross streets, but it was between San
Speaker 1: Pedro in Maine, between Florence Engage, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So once one blocks out the Laws one block north
Speaker 1: to Manchester, So that's my granny's family was from. I
Speaker 1: specifically remember a day like there was these twins that
Speaker 1: lived across the street from me, and in like a
Speaker 1: few few houses down was just some other boys that
Speaker 1: were like lived across this essentially my grandmother and my
Speaker 1: aunt's husband's family so like her, so basically her in
Speaker 1: laws lived on the same block. They were both on
Speaker 1: seventy third. So both sides of my family were on
Speaker 1: seventy three, right, one family by marriage, the other by blood. Right.
Speaker 1: So anyway, um, so we were on seventy third. That's
Speaker 1: where we were from, right. I just remember my grandmother
Speaker 1: being very specific about which specific boys I was allowed
Speaker 1: to play with, you know, saying it of course, you
Speaker 1: know they're having the most fun. So that's where I
Speaker 1: went over right, This for me who was the day
Speaker 1: that I realized. I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be affiliated, Like I'm not gonna I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm cut out for this, right, was like yo,
Speaker 1: So you know, they were like, hey, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: to the Golden Ox, get get a bag of French fries,
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of chill. So we just cut
Speaker 1: through this alley and on the other side of the alley,
Speaker 1: that's when the El Dorado pulled up, click clacked the
Speaker 1: trunk popps you know what I'm saying, out pops the
Speaker 1: text that everything out, pops all the guns, and like bam,
Speaker 1: I'm ten, Like I'm ten years old, yo, right looking
Speaker 1: at this, knowing full well my grandmother was like, don't
Speaker 1: go over there. You know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 1: are not allowed to go over there. You know I
Speaker 1: went anyway, you know what I'm saying. And I even
Speaker 1: remember one of my come my cousin Shannon, looking at
Speaker 1: me from across the street just given given that, I like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're not made for this, You're not supposed
Speaker 1: to go everybody, And I just remember that moment being like, man,
Speaker 1: we could die to day ten years old like realizing
Speaker 1: this might be it. Then that's I picked up. I
Speaker 1: picked up, I found the nearest Candice spray paint. Was like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into graffiti. That's what I'm started to. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that was skateboarding for me. Yeah right, and speak about
Speaker 1: getting pulled in like, um, the homies like that, you know,
Speaker 1: So all three of my first cousins gone, right, So
Speaker 1: the homies were like, oh, well, you know, they kind
Speaker 1: of gave me a pass without saying that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I got to just I got
Speaker 1: adventure off just because my family had done so much
Speaker 1: dirt the what you wanna say to me? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, sacrifice family members. So, um, I skated,
Speaker 1: but they used to just hit my board up everywhere
Speaker 1: I went and it was like yo, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I'm still from here, Like I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: I pull up on the RTV and be like trying
Speaker 1: to hide my put my foot on on a sess
Speaker 1: of them from neighborhood. But you know that that's I
Speaker 1: would definitely get pulled in just yea, yeah, somebody would
Speaker 1: have you know, and someone them immediately recognized that, like
Speaker 1: you said, the little nephew, ain't you Damn l A
Speaker 1: as big as l A is is really small. Yes,
Speaker 1: do you know? I mean, especially when you start getting
Speaker 1: putt in the systems, you know, like you know, I've
Speaker 1: done time in Petrino's Central juven on home, I passed
Speaker 1: through smar c Y, So you know, you start to
Speaker 1: know people know all the same people. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I went to camp. Was it camp?
Speaker 1: Not Camp Boxer? There's another camp, hell of people and
Speaker 1: like you'd be skating in the street. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: that dude. Yeah on the end, was cool with your boys.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna not that's all good, I remember, ye
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So yeah, so let's get to the politics.
Speaker 1: But now that we know what we're talking about, obviously,
Speaker 1: last last month, uh, we apparently we elected a hothead
Speaker 1: without checking with any of the homies, without no reservation
Speaker 1: on some I heard Pop the dude in his own hood, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just popped due the home
Speaker 1: looking back, did something even he did something even trickier.
Speaker 1: He waited till the enemy was in the neighborhood of
Speaker 1: of of of somebody. We got along newt hood, yes, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: basically that I'm act even shadier and chopped them again,
Speaker 1: Like it goes back to you getting pulled in. Now
Speaker 1: Iraq is like wait a minute, like you killed him
Speaker 1: on our soul. So now you got us looking a
Speaker 1: bit like now you just you just said you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like exactly, because that's what all of
Speaker 1: that's what actually what all of our our allies are saying,
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. Everybody is like fooll, like what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You're pulling us into it. So Iraq just said that
Speaker 1: you know they get out, you're not allowed in the
Speaker 1: neighbor man. You gotta go, you gotta go. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you're looking at you gotta go. And that's so
Speaker 1: so as you said, Trump the hothead looks on the
Speaker 1: camera and says, I'm expecting all of our allies to
Speaker 1: come get our back. It's like, bro, we didn't asked
Speaker 1: for this fan. Yeah yeah, right now it's real. Simp.
Speaker 1: I went kind of riding down to ride. That's millennial
Speaker 1: game banging to me, like that's you know, and and
Speaker 1: and and it's not millennial game bang and because folks
Speaker 1: don't know it because they locked all the o G
Speaker 1: s up. So we don't. You know, you you talked
Speaker 1: to youngsters. They don't really have no guidance. And I
Speaker 1: know it's an old dude. That's that's how we sound typical,
Speaker 1: I know. But but I'm gonna say it like I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot. I had o gs that told
Speaker 1: me don't go do that. Well I go in and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: probably be in a hothead. Can you can you guys
Speaker 1: talk to him and there would be some mediation, some
Speaker 1: some form of transformative justice, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like amongst the circle of folks that don't happen no
Speaker 1: more because they've locked all around. Yeah, and I can
Speaker 1: speak for Southeast Asian community. They just deported everybody. So
Speaker 1: now you've got this rogue gangsters that don't check in
Speaker 1: with the rest of the homies because what he told them.
Speaker 1: You got to check in with the homies because you know,
Speaker 1: because it might be we only got ten guns to
Speaker 1: this apartment complex and you're going over the neighborhood they
Speaker 1: got a hundred guns. Well, you need to let us know.
Speaker 1: You need to let us know, yeah, or you might
Speaker 1: catch you in this case, you might catch it ron
Speaker 1: on the wrong day where they like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm tired of this. I'm tired of you doing this,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like you said, the
Speaker 1: thing you just said, I didn't even have to ask you.
Speaker 1: Then you just set up is what the House is
Speaker 1: trying to do. The House and the Senate is like
Speaker 1: trying to pass you know, a vote that said and
Speaker 1: it passed the resolution that says, man, you can't can't
Speaker 1: go to war without checking with us. Right. But but
Speaker 1: remember that goes back to to um to Bush. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the same thing Bush was the great great analogy is
Speaker 1: I'm a star wars head to right in the prequels,
Speaker 1: which were horrible, but in the prequels, you know what,
Speaker 1: the what what Senator hal Patine did was he went
Speaker 1: to war without checking with the Senate and he wanted
Speaker 1: to eradicate the Senate so he could just be the emperor.
Speaker 1: Let me just do it. Yeah, you just do it
Speaker 1: right now, because because the country was so afraid and
Speaker 1: sat act you know, the pay everybody was flying flags
Speaker 1: and everybody was really really afraid, and they said, you
Speaker 1: know what, as a president, you just just protect us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just to make the week thought at the time that
Speaker 1: was the best move because everybody was scared. Yeah, fear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you go into your apartment complex and knock on every
Speaker 1: door and go, look, there's a bunch of foods coming out.
Speaker 1: They're gonna do a drive by it maybe a six
Speaker 1: o'clock Like, you know, I'm gonna stand outside. Can I
Speaker 1: just pop anybody that you? Yes? Keep us say whoever
Speaker 1: you want car, every car. I don't want to get shot.
Speaker 1: Whatever you got, yes, And that's ended up happening. So
Speaker 1: that's the national security narrative, right, That's exactly what that's
Speaker 1: the national security narrative. Right. So in this briefing, out
Speaker 1: the window, completely out the window. So in this briefing
Speaker 1: that they had, it was supposed to be like the
Speaker 1: safety briefing. Even the publican people like Mike Lee of
Speaker 1: Utah said, you know, he said he's been in these briefings.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's I'm quoting him. He said, this is
Speaker 1: the worst briefing I've been in in nine years. And
Speaker 1: then Rand Paul was like, you didn't say anything. We
Speaker 1: already know. And because he said, essentially the briefing was, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I heard he was planning this attack on
Speaker 1: these embassies and on four at least four embassies. So
Speaker 1: even his own party was like, oh word, okay, well
Speaker 1: show me to show me what you see, show me
Speaker 1: something specific. You said this was imminent, like show me
Speaker 1: what's up. And it was like, well, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I ran crazy, So like you know, they might do it,
Speaker 1: and it's like, fam, you they might like what did
Speaker 1: you talk about? It's the let's you know, let's all
Speaker 1: keep it real. It's the same war for when me
Speaker 1: and you were sixth graders. Like, it's the same war.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's got these these new imminent
Speaker 1: attacks based on like I heard, so now I need
Speaker 1: all of our allies, like you said, all of our
Speaker 1: allies to come in and help. It's like, fam, you
Speaker 1: just being identify you just you just made this block hot.
Speaker 1: Nobody asked for it, right sitting in somebody else's hood.
Speaker 1: Now as this block got hot, you know, the news
Speaker 1: came out that there was a um, yeah, the Ukrainian
Speaker 1: flight that got shot down that was flying out of Tehran,
Speaker 1: and it was like they said it was eighty nine
Speaker 1: like Irani's like on the flight right obviously at first,
Speaker 1: like Iran was like, I I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. And then the news came
Speaker 1: out that like, well they shot it down, right, And
Speaker 1: as tragic as that is, the block was hot. You
Speaker 1: shoot anything that pulls up, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And it's because of the dialed up heat. And of
Speaker 1: course this was of course, this was terrible. This is
Speaker 1: like the reality that a lot of people who didn't
Speaker 1: grow up in our in our environment kind of helped
Speaker 1: them understand what was happening, like understand the situation. Of course,
Speaker 1: if somebody in the said dies, everybody said, of nobody,
Speaker 1: the bullet was not meant for you know, it was
Speaker 1: hell Canadian helly Canadians too, right, because super high, right,
Speaker 1: you just pulled me in, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And in that scenario, you know, when when a when
Speaker 1: a flight gets shot down, it automatically triggers an international investigation, right,
Speaker 1: and in that international investigation is also the US, Like
Speaker 1: we're part of that thing. Now. If I'm a rand,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I gotta wait, I gotta show y'all too, right.
Speaker 1: So here's my question. Here's here's my question. Here's my question.
Speaker 1: With all that we know about the way Trump is
Speaker 1: acting even among his own party, and I get it.
Speaker 1: Among his party it's it's gang gang. I get it.
Speaker 1: You can't talk out loud. Even if we talked, we
Speaker 1: talked about that. You just gotta do it. I get it,
Speaker 1: even if you disagree. I'm never gonna say the public.
Speaker 1: But when we get home, you know what I'm saying, Parliament,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Uh, but what what
Speaker 1: do you think is the magic that Trump has over
Speaker 1: his base that he's able to convince them that even
Speaker 1: with the impeachment, which we're gonna get to, you know,
Speaker 1: in this situation that attacks on him is an attack
Speaker 1: on us, Like it seems to be the narrative he puts,
Speaker 1: how like what what do you think the magic is
Speaker 1: party with his party or even with his basse, with
Speaker 1: his voter base, like no matter how much evidence otherwise,
Speaker 1: that clearly these are these are choices he's making, right,
Speaker 1: But he's able to say when anybody pushes back on it, like,
Speaker 1: oh they're dissing us. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: what do you think the magic is? Like how or
Speaker 1: just how would you do that? How would you convince?
Speaker 1: Mentality is him? Like he's so down for the set
Speaker 1: he reps. She's just kind of like, well, he's saying
Speaker 1: he's doing all this for the hood, so I just
Speaker 1: want to let him. Yeah, he's doing some kind of
Speaker 1: ill ship, but at the end of the day, he's
Speaker 1: flying the neighborhood. So he's down, you know what I can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what his base is. And and it's it's also
Speaker 1: rooted in Hella racism. I'm you know, he was he
Speaker 1: was he was the anti Obama celebrity. He was the
Speaker 1: celebrity putting his own money up to try to discredit
Speaker 1: this man. You know. So he won simply because you know,
Speaker 1: all the races were so mad about Obama that they
Speaker 1: were willing to put the guy who's willing to be
Speaker 1: racist out front, you know, like he's willing to wear
Speaker 1: his racism on his sleep, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He don't hide. Um, I've heard, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of liberal pundits called him like a mob boss, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And and and he kind of
Speaker 1: is with with a little less intelligence and a little
Speaker 1: less loyalty because he definitely an't got that. You don't
Speaker 1: you don't keep the rules, don't write or die. He's
Speaker 1: turned on every single person who's ever rode for him,
Speaker 1: and which is the next thing we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 1: But that's that's absolutely true. I think I can speak
Speaker 1: on on a few other things too with that, where
Speaker 1: this guy is willing to even you know, do some
Speaker 1: things that we have a code against where it's like
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't let myself this, but he he ain't
Speaker 1: got no code. So and at least at least if
Speaker 1: there's somebody ain't got no code, at least they on
Speaker 1: our side, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so you'll you know, like a lot of some of
Speaker 1: the more centrists, like right leaning centrists would say where
Speaker 1: it's like, well we just kind of held our nose
Speaker 1: and voted for him, where it's like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff I don't like about him. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess you know what I'm saying. You know, but
Speaker 1: at some point, like both you and I know, like
Speaker 1: we come from the thing where like there's like there's
Speaker 1: a line that says even even the idea of ride
Speaker 1: or die like some of that. I mean, let's be real,
Speaker 1: like it's limited, like there are limitations, you know. In
Speaker 1: some sense, it's like I know where I come from.
Speaker 1: It's like, if you put number one the bread in danger,
Speaker 1: for like, if you put the money in danger for
Speaker 1: all of us by your actions, then like, my gu
Speaker 1: on your own. You know what I'm saying. If you
Speaker 1: put any of our family in danger, my g you
Speaker 1: on your own. You know what I'm saying. Like, there's
Speaker 1: so there are some things that have some sort of limitations.
Speaker 1: And also, I would say really interesting is when it
Speaker 1: comes to like the evangelical base, which I'm a little
Speaker 1: more well versed in. If you say to yourself, this
Speaker 1: Trump is this character that's more like a he's like
Speaker 1: a King Cyrus or like a never Kannezzar who like
Speaker 1: executed judgment against an evil culture, right, and like God
Speaker 1: used this guy as a correction rod for the culture.
Speaker 1: So he's gone, not he's gonna be godless. But that's
Speaker 1: how God works. Sometimes God uses godless men. The problem
Speaker 1: with that logic is like, but okay, if I'm following
Speaker 1: the same story you following, didn't that mean God judging you, homie?
Speaker 1: That you know what I'm saying. If you're following the story,
Speaker 1: God was judging Israel with these people, so that means
Speaker 1: that's like, why are you welcoming? I don't understand why
Speaker 1: you think that that's in your favor. If you the
Speaker 1: story you quote means that's not your favorite family, that's
Speaker 1: your destruction. So these things, God could these things got closed?
Speaker 1: And what I know, and what I know, you know
Speaker 1: is when you start dealing with Ukrainians and Russians who
Speaker 1: are actual gangsters, you know, saying who are actual my people? Like,
Speaker 1: it's one thing that there's a moment where all of
Speaker 1: us find out whatever that situation is, which one of
Speaker 1: us is like playing gangsters, which one of us really
Speaker 1: is not afraid to shoot? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's what and you know, and that's what Trump
Speaker 1: keated bolstering is we got the biggest guns, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's the whole thing. And it's true.
Speaker 1: You know, in the United States finds more on the
Speaker 1: military than the what the top five superpowers come bind,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we spend so much on
Speaker 1: military defense. As a former veteran, I know this, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know, I remember after nine eleven,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I didn't get out to
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. The war was in full swing. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: And I always go back to saying, like every subculture
Speaker 1: when talking about game, and every subculture always reflects the
Speaker 1: greater culture. So you know, we are born wanting to
Speaker 1: hurt other people of color, not at all. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't born hating you talk to me, and what
Speaker 1: is that taught under I grew up in the eighties
Speaker 1: when it was you know, I got a conflict with you, probably,
Speaker 1: well what what How am I taught to resolve it?
Speaker 1: Gonna bomb him? Yes, you know what I mean. America
Speaker 1: has a problem with you. We're just gonna bomb you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to war with you. Right. America also
Speaker 1: does not hide the fact that it will do anything
Speaker 1: for profit. It's profit over people. So in my small neighborhood,
Speaker 1: in my small subculture, I'm gonna mimic that exact same thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'll sell to whoever it is as
Speaker 1: long as I get picked, I'll do whatever I gotta do.
Speaker 1: I will do a home invasion robbery and put someone's life.
Speaker 1: And because that's what was taught to me, I wasn't
Speaker 1: born with this. Like the contrary, we come from cultures
Speaker 1: that are completely opposite of this. We come from cultures
Speaker 1: where you don't have one parent, you got a whole
Speaker 1: village of parents. Yeah, the city is your parents. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Your mom's frankly, whoop your ass,
Speaker 1: and you just gotta deal with the true story has happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so you know, on on this podcast, I also
Speaker 1: want to make that that that's my stance as well,
Speaker 1: is that just once you recognize that, oh ship, I'm
Speaker 1: following the wrong ship, then you start to kind of
Speaker 1: check your own stuff start a minute, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Our subcultures is not you know, we always
Speaker 1: feel like we were born into this beef, like beef
Speaker 1: was here before us, which is true especially in the
Speaker 1: black and and and Chicano community who have been here
Speaker 1: longer than the Filipino community in the Southeast Asian. These
Speaker 1: are historical beefs that are real. It's not just a
Speaker 1: bunch of kids who just you know, we just don't
Speaker 1: like the color that's you want to whittle our ship
Speaker 1: down to. And really these are concrete deeps and unfortunately
Speaker 1: we're taught to resolve it the way America was absolutely
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And so all that goes.
Speaker 1: And then now we got a millennial gangster in the house.
Speaker 1: We got a Twitter gangster now. And that's that's what
Speaker 1: gang banging has become. Like. You know, I look on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I see these little kids flagging and you know every round,
Speaker 1: now guy is a blood and become from a time
Speaker 1: where you didn't just come out like it wasn't until
Speaker 1: the Peace Treaty that motherfucker started saying that, oh I'm
Speaker 1: a crib stoo dog didn't come out. He came out
Speaker 1: with an LBC hat and everybody was like he might
Speaker 1: be a c You didn't tell nobody, You ain't tell nobody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then each treaty happened, and now who's so COVID? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that that ship. But even then there was
Speaker 1: still you still had to you know, if you really
Speaker 1: you couldn't just say these things, just say it now,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, all I gotta say it is
Speaker 1: Takashi six nine, that that's Donald Trump, And that's that's
Speaker 1: what that is. That that culture, that same culture that
Speaker 1: burns to Kashi six nine probably just wanted to, you know,
Speaker 1: make a little bit of money. He didn't care how
Speaker 1: he did it. He you know, he was willing to
Speaker 1: sell this and it was money, and we got the
Speaker 1: same kind of president. And you know who's claiming to
Speaker 1: be a blood or an American. You know, I'm pro America,
Speaker 1: but really he's just pro money. End of the day,
Speaker 1: that flag could go red to blue, which everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: make him the most money. He's gonna like with I
Speaker 1: throw stones from the Kaiper belt, cite the term crater
Speaker 1: when he came to take the title belt A next
Speaker 1: door to them, bothos hot holes, hot holes. Y'all know
Speaker 1: how the lie goes when the cops goop banging the
Speaker 1: name of a lob bro, they'd be hopping out with
Speaker 1: thanks to put holes in y'all's job Browns, when the
Speaker 1: cops go banging the name of the lob bro, maybe
Speaker 1: hopping out with thanks. I love that you went to
Speaker 1: like Takashi six nine because he's actually in my notes
Speaker 1: of like that particular Yeah, that particular brand that's like
Speaker 1: I kind of just feel like he just wanted to
Speaker 1: sit at the cool kids table and then didn't realize
Speaker 1: what it would cost him. Right in the same way,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna get into this this left
Speaker 1: partner's uh interview that he just had where he did.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen nobody testify since Nino Brown
Speaker 1: and New Jack City. Ain't nobody testified that, right? Yes, him,
Speaker 1: that dude right so so in his testimony, he you know,
Speaker 1: he it's there's a few things. It's like I feel
Speaker 1: like he talked about Mike Pence knowing exactly what was
Speaker 1: going on. And I feel like Mike Pence in this
Speaker 1: scenario is Takashi six Nines where he's just like, look, man,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be in the White House. Uh,
Speaker 1: I ain't know this one Like, I'm gonna give him
Speaker 1: that that he was. He was probably just just wanted
Speaker 1: to sit at the cool kids table. It didn't know
Speaker 1: he was a part of the hustle. Because what one
Speaker 1: thing Left Partner said was like, listen, how I how
Speaker 1: I got my credibility was because Rudy said, Rudy on
Speaker 1: speaker phone was like, hey, this guy, this guy right here,
Speaker 1: Left Partners, he speaks for me and the president. So
Speaker 1: he running in the room and he say, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: unless you'll do anything about this, unless you'll run this Joe,
Speaker 1: this Joe Biden thing, Mike Pence ain't coming he's not
Speaker 1: gonna come to you. He's not gonna come to your
Speaker 1: inaugurgation unless you run this Joe Biden thing, you know.
Speaker 1: Ukraine like, okay, we can't mess up our bag here
Speaker 1: because we still beat from show and it's not like
Speaker 1: we could keep up with this. So like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to make y' all mad, but what you're asking
Speaker 1: me to do is crazy, Like I can't. I just
Speaker 1: I can't be a part of that. Right left tells
Speaker 1: Rudy like, hey, they said no. Rudy was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I got you. The next day canceled Mike Pence's trip.
Speaker 1: Right So now Ukraine like damn, he really you really
Speaker 1: did it, you know, saying so that means like okay,
Speaker 1: so then so then but then he flies to Poland.
Speaker 1: So then they fly, they fly, Mike Pence to Poland.
Speaker 1: Mike Pennce talking about like, yo, I ain't know none
Speaker 1: of this what's going on right now, Here's here's what
Speaker 1: I think. And that's just me using my hood Antennis,
Speaker 1: Here's what I think I think. Mike Pence was probably like,
Speaker 1: tell me exactly only what I need to know. Don't
Speaker 1: tell me nothing else, Just tell me exactly what I
Speaker 1: need to know so that when the police come, I
Speaker 1: can honestly say I don't know he's else. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he's sitting in Poland not knowing he's a bargaining chip.
Speaker 1: According to him, Left Partners is like, there's no way
Speaker 1: in the world that man ain't know, you know. So
Speaker 1: essentially Left started singing you know what I'm saying. Le
Speaker 1: basically he broke the code. He was like, look, let
Speaker 1: me tell you what's happening. I'm already out on bail.
Speaker 1: Well I'm going to jail anyway. Look here, Rudy knew
Speaker 1: what was happening. It was all because Trump said to
Speaker 1: do this. I was there only to get dirt on Biten.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what none of
Speaker 1: these people talking about. Here. Here's my question to you,
Speaker 1: like using your antennas, why would Love break the code?
Speaker 1: What you think? I mean, that's a good one. I
Speaker 1: think that that that snitch is gonna hang out with snitches,
Speaker 1: you know number one? Right? You know, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: really have like a good answer for that. I feel
Speaker 1: like that is the answer, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's a whole that's a whole administration full
Speaker 1: of snitches number one, and the around them is you know,
Speaker 1: you know when we grew up, there was always one
Speaker 1: set that was like, you know, you know about them,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, just can't keep him. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: really about it. They might roll over on you, that
Speaker 1: kind of ship. And I feel like that's what we're
Speaker 1: looking at right now. I feel yeah. I feel like
Speaker 1: Lef was like, look, man, I got a chance to
Speaker 1: like really make some moves, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I see y'all move like we move, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because he's involved in like the Russian
Speaker 1: Oligard stay Gangster's like, come on, but they like really
Speaker 1: like they shoot Trump, don't shoot so like you know,
Speaker 1: and he's like, look, you know, let's let's I mean,
Speaker 1: we can't cut it no cleaner in this like Russia
Speaker 1: put him on, Russian put left on, Russia put Trump on.
Speaker 1: So he's like, all right, it seems like this seems
Speaker 1: like a good little fit. You know, let me do this.
Speaker 1: You understand, how go you understand? All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Left get popped Trump back like he don't know him
Speaker 1: right straight up? So so left like okays just not
Speaker 1: which is not new to Trump, you know everybody. So
Speaker 1: that's so in my mind, I'm like, left, like, okay,
Speaker 1: I know how you move. Okay, you're gonna let me
Speaker 1: go to jail. Hell, I see what you're doing. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna Look. I saw you did that to your
Speaker 1: own home, and you did that to your own boy,
Speaker 1: your own boy, Michael Cohen. You let that man go
Speaker 1: to jail, Paul manafor ran your thing. You let that
Speaker 1: man go to jail. Okay, cool, got you Let me
Speaker 1: tell you my story. Here, go to text messages, here,
Speaker 1: go to things. Because in my mind, I'm like, let
Speaker 1: know the code. Let know the code. And he's like, you,
Speaker 1: this man ain't got one. You ain't got no code. Okay.
Speaker 1: He rolled over on Rude. Rudy brought him in the game.
Speaker 1: Rudy the gag paid the man rolled on it. He's
Speaker 1: Rudy fruit to your flug. How you snitch your your
Speaker 1: own plug. He's like, man, I don't trust another y'all.
Speaker 1: I remember when I saw when I first saw Live
Speaker 1: and his partner's picture, I was like, oh, there's some
Speaker 1: gangster exactly what I said. They could better game. I
Speaker 1: was like yeah, I was like, man, this is That's
Speaker 1: what I said. I was like, this Central casting on
Speaker 1: me like they are. I can see him in the
Speaker 1: Valor suit hanging out and Glenn Strange it up like y'all,
Speaker 1: I don't know how accurate. This is so accurate. Live
Speaker 1: Partners basically broke the code. And it's crazy because you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Ukraine Russian thing, but you know this, it's so
Speaker 1: it's so deep. Like you know, when I first heard it,
Speaker 1: when it first went down with you know, I thought, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know he's doing he's doing what what Bill Clinton did.
Speaker 1: He's doing the same thing which Bill Clinton when he
Speaker 1: was going through impeachment, he bombed camera, he bombed somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he dropped the bomb just so he could. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the first thing came in on mind. And then
Speaker 1: as as the onions started up, layers back, like it
Speaker 1: was deeper. That's probably in there, but it's deep. And
Speaker 1: in the first war between Eton and edok that got
Speaker 1: us in that was really a proxy war with Russia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and here we are in here we are arguing like Russia,
Speaker 1: you know we IOK. And that was the war, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It got a little convolute. It
Speaker 1: obviously because of the money and oil. But here here
Speaker 1: at it again. Yeah, you know that Ukrainian flag got
Speaker 1: shot down, you know. Yeah, And that's what's crazy. Here
Speaker 1: we are again, That's what's crazy is I'm like, whose
Speaker 1: blood is on the ground is us who just got
Speaker 1: pulled in? You know? And that's to me, that's pulled
Speaker 1: in a dude who ain't never done no dirt, who
Speaker 1: has never done no dirt. This is my thing of
Speaker 1: the military cats too. Now, I still got a lot
Speaker 1: of better. You are one. Yeah, and my father is
Speaker 1: My father was in Vietnam, and I'm just like, it
Speaker 1: baffles me. Now I get it. When I was on
Speaker 1: the ground in the boots, you just did whatever they
Speaker 1: told you to do. The obviously that's the training they
Speaker 1: trained to you know. Like I remember just a side story. Uh,
Speaker 1: I came home and in the military and the Marine Corps,
Speaker 1: when an instructive walks in the room, he yells eyeballs
Speaker 1: and everybody else snap really loud and looks to wherever
Speaker 1: they're here. They heard the word eyeballs just to get
Speaker 1: the wings attention. I'm driving And this is how conditioned
Speaker 1: that was, um my old lady. At the time, they
Speaker 1: had these crazy straws with eyeballing him at Taco Bello
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, look eyeballs and I literally
Speaker 1: turned in her face while she's driving and she almost crashed.
Speaker 1: That My gosh. I say that to illustrate the fact
Speaker 1: that that's just what's in trying. Yeah. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was just it became so natural for me to just
Speaker 1: you know, that's the additioning of it. But it still
Speaker 1: baffles me now when I look back and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that dude, they never done no dirt. Man. He was
Speaker 1: the dude when everybody's like, yo, we're about think we
Speaker 1: gotta gotta go tonight the neighborhood. We gotta go. He
Speaker 1: was the dude he said, I can't bro my my
Speaker 1: chance hurt. I don't know what hurt. Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1: He was that dude. And now he calling the shots
Speaker 1: and telling you to go to the war. I gotta run.
Speaker 1: I ain't running out with you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah man,
Speaker 1: this is this is this is yeah, we live. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I even think even just the way that our system
Speaker 1: works as far as like so we have the election
Speaker 1: every four years, and so that means that like if
Speaker 1: you're an ally, every four years America might change their
Speaker 1: mind about you, you know what I'm saying, So like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can really count on your
Speaker 1: support for real, for real, because if a new guy
Speaker 1: comes in and decides, which is what happened to Iran,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, we had
Speaker 1: a deal. The last guy said, we was good, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you just said, make sure
Speaker 1: you don't make no like you know, nuclear bombs and everything. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're cool. And they said, you know what, that's fair.
Speaker 1: It's not like we got money for him anyway, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, but we're gonna protect ourselves,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that's like that's a
Speaker 1: fair response. And then all of a sudden, like damn
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, like man, you just got here. Now
Speaker 1: all that's gone, So like I don't I don't even
Speaker 1: know how to fix that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you know whatever that would be. But if I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm salty, right, if I'm around, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: don't count on them, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: like at some point, somebody gonna change their mind, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean right, yeah, anyway, well, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Man, for I love I
Speaker 1: love I love the concept, I love the podcast. I
Speaker 1: think that's what we need to do and start making
Speaker 1: this process accessible, you know what I mean. And for uh,
Speaker 1: you know, for for a culture that's so obsessed with
Speaker 1: gangster ship, you know what I mean, so obsessed with
Speaker 1: war and so obsessed with this I hate that, you know,
Speaker 1: I hate using this word so often, but I have to,
Speaker 1: like it's such a toxic masculine space, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean that that I love that that you're you're
Speaker 1: using language and you're doing organizational work, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I always believe I hate academic organizers because they always
Speaker 1: speak over the head of the people. They use language
Speaker 1: that people don't get, you know, dialectic materialism, and they
Speaker 1: use all these big words where I always had the philosophy,
Speaker 1: especially with hip hop, that you speak the language of
Speaker 1: the people. You know, you speak, you speak the language
Speaker 1: of the people you're trying to organize it that you're
Speaker 1: trying to you know, and I I gotta commend you that,
Speaker 1: you man, you're taking a step to doing something like that,
Speaker 1: and I know it's gonna get better and whatever plug
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