1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan mink 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we're gonna give you our 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: takeaways and thoughts after watching the second week of Ravens 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: organized team activities, and Garrett will start with the two 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: time MVP did not see him this week at OTA's 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson did not practice Tuesday or Thursday for the media, 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: and so that obviously kind of throws things off a 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: little bit from an assessment standpoint. I think the defense 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: won the day on Thursday, and part of that is 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: because Lamar's not on the field, you know, Just any 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: thoughts on that for you? 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: I mean John Harball was asked about it after practice 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: and he basically made the point specific to Lamar, but 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: also broadly speaking, like, look, your coach, you want everybody here. 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: You know, that's generally how coaches are going to feel. 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: That's always That's generally how that's always. 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Our coaches are going to feel. And like, I'm not 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: going to sit here and act like Lamar's the only 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: one who's not here. A number of veteran players aren't here. 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: This is voluntary. 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Some guys are in and out, and Lamar practiced last 22 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: week for one open session at least to the media. 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. So in terms of the open sessions to 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: the media, he's been out there for one of the 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: four open sessions for the media, and so, you know, 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: I think generally you want all your guys there. But 27 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: at the same time, this is a voluntary portion of 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: the off season program, so it's not mandatory. I think 29 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: that a lot of times things get made across the 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: entire league about who's there, who isn't, what it means, 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: the implications of all. 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: That this conversation happens every single year about some player. 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it happens, yeah, and there a lot of 34 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: teams are probably having these conversations about different players and 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: whatever their situation is. So like, as John Harbaugh said, yeah, 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: you want everybody here, but it's voluntary, and that's just 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: that's just the reality of. 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: It, right. I'll say this, I think that it last 39 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: year's OTAs for Lamar Jackson, took on a different level 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: of importance than this year's. Every year is important, in 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: my opinion, last year's took on a different level of 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: importance because Todd Mounkin was in his first year's offensive coordinator. 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: You had a rookie first round wide receiver in Zay 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: Flowers who was going to be a major part of 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: this offense, and so I think that that in particular 46 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: was very important for Lamar Jackson to be there. And 47 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: he did participate in a lot of OTAs we'll see 48 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: how much of the third OTA's week he participates in. 49 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: And obviously Mintory Mini Camp fully expect him to be there. 50 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: So you know, look, Lamar's a two time MVP. He 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: knows this offense pretty well. At this point. Of course, 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to see him out there on the field, 53 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: as I think everybody would love to, but like I'm 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: not going to sit here and you know, make a 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: big deal out of this for a guy who's proven 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: himself in this league. 57 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: The other thing too, that I'll say is Lamar Jackson 58 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: has been here throughout the off season program. He was 59 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: here on the very first day of offseason workouts back 60 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: in April, so it's not like he's been absent this 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: entire time. You know, he was here for at least 62 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: one open practice. He was here for an open practice 63 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: last week talk with the media. Then he was here 64 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: at the start of the off season program again in April. 65 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: So like he's been present in this building over the 66 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: course of the last two months. So I don't think 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: that it's fair to like characterize it as where's Lamar been, right, 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: He's been present and so yeah. 69 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, moving on Nate Wiggins. Heard from him 70 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: today after practice, and I'll tell you the first round 71 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: of rookie it has been impressive, you know, and this 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: was a step up in competition for him. You go 73 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: from rookie mini camp obviously, you go from college to 74 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: the NFL rookie Minicamp first and now Ota is here 75 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: going against the veterans and Zay Flowers and Rasha Bateman 76 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: and down the line. And I think that Nate Wiggins 77 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: has adjusted pretty darn well in making that leap. 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: He looks awesome. I mean, I think he just is. 79 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: It's sprang like I think that he just when I 80 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: look out there on the field, I watch the way 81 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: he moves, I watched how stick he is encouraged. I 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: just feel like even more conviction that the Rays he 83 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: had a great pack with him at thirty. Like, I 84 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: just think that he's going to be a really good player. 85 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's you know, he may not 86 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: open the season as a starting cornerback, but he's going 87 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: to be a starter on the team before too long. 88 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: And I just think he has all the makings of 89 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: a terrific cover corner. 90 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: He's going to be a guy that's it's just flat 91 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: out tough to complete pass against. Yes, And you know, 92 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: I think that's high on the list for attributes that matters. 93 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: And so I thought it was interesting hearing from him 94 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: after practice, and you know, the coaches keep saying, you know, 95 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: this guy's fast, the range, the length, the speed, the 96 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: just his change direction, his ability to be sticky. But 97 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, he's got a lot of things work on. 98 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Like any player, he's got a lot of things to 99 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: work on. 100 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: It. 101 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: I keep noticing that they keep saying that, and it's 102 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: kind of like, this sounds to me, it's like, keep 103 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: this guy humble, like he's got, you know, all the attributes, 104 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: but like we got to keep him locked in and whatever. 105 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: You know, you have the tools, but you have to 106 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: make the most of those tools. And that's important for 107 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: Nate too. And it was interest to hear Nate talk 108 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: about specifically, with more specificity, what those things are that 109 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: he's working on. And he said it's getting his hands 110 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: on receivers earlier in routes and not just relying on 111 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: his speed to say, all right, whatever, I don't have 112 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: to touch you, but I'm going to stay in your 113 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: hip pocket the whole way down the route. Yeah, you know. Now, 114 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: he was asked to how do you really recover if you, 115 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, you give up too much separation. He's like, yeah, 116 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: I don't really have that happen, so recover. 117 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: I have to recover. He's recover speed. I don't worry 118 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: about that. I just don't let the guys get open. 119 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: HI again with exactly. 120 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: It's also a good attribute. Yeah, and so I thought 121 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: that was pretty funny. But you know, but being able 122 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: to press NFL wide receivers who are bigger and stronger 123 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: than Nate Wiggins at this point of his career, you know, 124 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: you have to be able to do that some too, 125 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: and it's encouraging to see him hold himself in that way. 126 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the other part that he was asked about, 127 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: he talked a little bit about it, just the transition 128 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: to the NFL. He said that the time management is 129 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: just part of the one of the biggest things he's 130 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: had to learn of the course a lot. I mean, 131 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: this young guy twenty years old, and so now he's 132 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: in a position where this is his entire Chris is 133 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: the job, this is your career, this is your profession. 134 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: You know, got class to worry about, like you are 135 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: an NFL football player, and so like. 136 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: You got Kyle Hoylinson reminded us how young he is. 137 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: He can't even crack it when a Mike's hard lemonade. 138 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. So I thought it was you know, 139 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: that is something he's going to learn. I also, just 140 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: like I struck, was struck by this on his very 141 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: first day here. What he sat down with us for 142 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: the podcast, like super confident, Like he I go back 143 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: to the story where he went to his college coach 144 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: and said, I want to cover the best wide receiver 145 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: every single game. Just let me go follow that guy 146 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: around every single week. And he was a sophomore and 147 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: they were like, all right, settle down, you got to 148 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: earn that opportunity. But like, and I asked him about 149 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: his confidence. He played that way in college, and I 150 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: see that same level of confidence like in his play 151 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: on the field, and he's like, yeah, I just it 152 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: with me. That was that there's no issue there, Like 153 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't get the sense at all that 154 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: he feels like I'm making this jump to the NFL, 155 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: like let's see it. I don't. Some guys are like, 156 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: see how it looks to see how I can compete. 157 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: And I don't think that he feels that way. I 158 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: feel like he's just like, yeah, I got a different 159 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: jersey on, I'm still a great player, and I'm just 160 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: gonna go out there and like, you know, I'm excited 161 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: to show everybody that and play at a high level. 162 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: Like I'm just gonna go play. I don't think he's nervous. 163 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm that any sense of nervousness from him, you know. 164 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: But the Ravens are making him earn it too, you know. 165 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: It's been Brandon Stevens, Jaalen armor Davis are getting a 166 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: lot of reps out there, right and Jalen armor Davis 167 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: is a third year VET and and he's playing well 168 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: in practice too. So it's not like I think it's good. 169 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: The Ravens aren't just handling it all to Nate Wiggins either, 170 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: even with Marlon Humphrey now on the field. 171 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: Though, I mean, he's he's gonna have like he he's 172 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: I don't know that he's gonna open I don't think 173 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: he's going to open the season as a starter, even 174 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: in three cornerback sets, Like is he the third or 175 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: is that Arthur Malette? Like, I don't know that he's 176 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: necessarily gonna be one of the top three to open 177 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: the season, but before too long, like he will be 178 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: absolutely And he also was asked one thing I thought 179 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: was kind of fun is who's the toughest guy you've guarded? 180 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: He said Bateman was the toughest guy that he's guarded 181 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: so far, and then. 182 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: Really fifty and just has a lot of quickness and 183 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: speeding his routes. 184 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: The second part was like who's the most fun, which 185 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: I was just kind of laughing at, like the we're 186 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: going down, Like give me everything about the guys you're 187 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: going up against. Who who's the tough and who's the 188 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: most fun? He said, Zay was the most fun guy 189 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: that he's covered. You know, because they is such a 190 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: shifty guy. 191 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: Well, he said, because they had the college matchups and 192 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: that they've just kind of they know what each does. Yep, 193 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: they had the scouting report on each other more than 194 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: he and Bateman and so I think they're just having fun, 195 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: kind of just sharpening against each other, you know. Yeah, 196 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: I think Nate again, just as Zay like laughs down 197 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: the field through half his routes, He's just that guy 198 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: just has infectious fun playing the game. I think that 199 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: maybe that's what Nate's also. 200 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's an element fun. Yeah, I think that 201 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: he's I just that he's going to be a really 202 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: good player. Like everything that I've seen from him says 203 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: to me, like this guy is ready. He's ready. Yeah, 204 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: And I think that the Ravens secondary is in good shape. 205 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: The other guy we talked to in the secondary is 206 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: Brandon Stevens. Is we're talking about the secondary, also talk 207 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: with him on Thursday, and it's just kind of crazy, 208 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: Like a year ago, we're talking about Brandon Stevens playing safety. 209 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: Is he a nickel safety? How do you use him? 210 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: And he ends up, of course, getting the starting cornerback job. 211 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: And now you're going into the year and you're like, 212 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: all right, you look at the cornerbacks. The reason we're 213 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: saying that Nate Wigans probably isn't a starter right away 214 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: is because you got Brandon Stevens. So you're like, all right, 215 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: got Brandon Stevens, Marlin Humphrey's working his way back, and 216 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: those are going to be your top two starters. And like, 217 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: Brandon Stevens is just lockedloaders of starting cornerback and that 218 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: is a massive jump from a year ago. And I 219 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: think that he's going to have another big season. 220 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we don't really know what Marlin's status 221 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: is right now. You know, we've seen him doing work 222 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: on the side and seen him doing some of the 223 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: kind of positional slash individual drills, but he hasn't done 224 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: any eleven on eleven's h during OTAs, and so we're 225 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: not really sure what that is. But as of right now, 226 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Stevens doesn't have to be here right 227 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Like he could be one of those guys who's like, 228 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, I proved it last year. I'm in a 229 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: contract year. You know, maybe I'm gonna be kind of 230 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: hit or miss at OTAs. I'll be in and out 231 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: or I'm not gonna be there at all, and I'll 232 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: see you at mini camp. But he's here and he's 233 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: been practicing every day, and like, I think that speaks 234 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: to and we already knew this about Brandon Stevens. Like 235 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: the guy's a worker, you know, I mean when you 236 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: go kind of have his path to the NFL. 237 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: And uh, friend of the friend of the louch, oh. 238 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: Big time friend of the lounge, time loud, you know, Like, yeah, 239 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: he had a breakout season last year and proved himself 240 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: as one of the top you know, definitely a top 241 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: flight receiver or corner in this league. Really and he 242 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: was the Ravens most consistent cornerback. Yeah, very solid player 243 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: last year. And this year he's dedicated to taking it 244 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: to another level. And I asked him, what are what 245 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: is the goal this year and he said, this is 246 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: dominate it to dominating all those guys obvious to me, 247 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: Like that gives you a frame of mind, like it's 248 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: not just yeah, I'm gonna be a good corner in 249 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: this league. I'm going to be one of the best 250 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: corners in this least. 251 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: What he said. That's and and if he if he 252 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 2: proves that, then he's gonna be one of the highest 253 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: paid cornerbacks. That's also in this league. He's going into 254 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: a contract year. This is the last year of his 255 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: rookie contract, and he was asked about that as well. 256 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: And now he basically said I'm not worrying about that. 257 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to let my agent handle. 258 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: That, which you know, non answer answer. 259 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: It's a it's a non answer. But he also didn't 260 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 2: say like we're having conversations. The vibe I got and 261 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: I could be wrong here was that Like he and 262 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: talk about confident guys, Brandon Stevens is also a very 263 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: confident guy. He may just be happy to let this 264 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: thing play out. 265 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: And and I don't know, Yeah, I'm not going to 266 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: read that into it too much. I'm not going to 267 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: read into it the mattabque, you know, I'm playing it out. 268 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: And let's see, that's the vibe I got. 269 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: That is the vibe I got. And what he said 270 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 2: where because the question was have you had any conversations 271 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: with the Ravens about an extension? And he and he 272 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: said no, I'm just letting that be handled by my agent. Now. 273 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that could be it could be either way. 274 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: I just got the vibe that he's that Again, it's 275 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: just a feeling that he may just be comfortable letting 276 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: this betting on himself and playing it out and seeing 277 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: where that where that falls at. And also we don't know, 278 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: you know, if the Ravens have approached him about an extension. 279 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: We don't know about any of that stuff behind the scenes. 280 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't think that he would be Again, 281 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: I think he's a confident guy and he would he 282 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: would trust his ability to go out there and play 283 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: it out and see where that where that gets him 284 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: after the season. 285 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: He certainly could. I hope he signs an extension though 286 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: before the end of the season. I hope he signs 287 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: it before the end of the trade. 288 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: It would be great. I mean I think, I mean, look, 289 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: if you if you can find him and have one 290 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: of a starting quarterback like locked in plays, I think 291 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: that's great. I think that he I think he's a 292 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: very he's a guy that you got to consider, you know, 293 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: very seriously a contract extension even before the season. And 294 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: so like I'm not ruling it out. I just, you know, 295 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 2: got the vibe that he may maybe he bets on 296 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: himself and plays it out and see what happens after 297 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: the year. 298 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: You know, we we went into this last season with 299 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Justin Mattobique and Patrick Queen. This year it's really Odafe 300 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Oway and Brandon Stevetz, well the Dafe they picked up 301 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: the fifth year option. That doesn't mean that they couldn't 302 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: hammer out an extension at some point before he plays 303 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: on that option. Maybe they do. I mean kind of 304 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: the implication is, like Eric Dekasi even told us on 305 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: this very podcast, you know, we think by year's end, 306 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: that fifth year option is going to look like a 307 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: good deal for Afeways. That imp doesn't imply that, Yeah, 308 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: we're like trying to get an extension done before the 309 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: end of his fourth year. But those are the next 310 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: two guys. Like, if you're talking about who are the 311 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: guys in line for extensions, those would be the players. 312 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: Well, I know we're now we're just playing things out 313 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: over the course of the ext few years. Yeah, I 314 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: actually would put somebody else well. 315 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: The list few years. 316 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: Third year, he's going into his third year and so 317 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: he would be eligible after the season. Brandon of course, 318 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: would be a free agent after the season. 319 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: He would be first eligible, be first eligible. 320 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: That would be early. That'd be very early for a 321 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: non quarterback. You don't see that very often, but he 322 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: would be eligible. And if he keeps playing like this, then. 323 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: He's going to get a contract. He's going to be 324 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: a raven Yes, for a long time. 325 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: Yes. 326 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, moving on staying in the secondary, I do think 327 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: that one thing that stood out to me from today's 328 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: practice was some of these backup safeties. And that's another 329 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: area of competition, a big time competition. 330 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: You know. 331 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Right now, it's not really as John Harble said, it's 332 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: not roster competition time he'd like OTAs is not when 333 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: you decide like, oh, is this guy gonna be the starter, 334 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: who's winning a job? How much playing time? Of course 335 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: you're always evaluating everything, but nobody's winning a job during OTAs. Okay. 336 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: So but with that said, these safeties know, by the 337 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: time he gets to training camp, it's a big time 338 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: competition for who's going to make the rosters, the third 339 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: and four safeties, who's going to be getting playing time 340 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: as a third safety? And I thought multiple guys stood out. 341 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: Art Arius Washington had an interception that he made off 342 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: a tip ball to kind of weird player over the 343 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: middle that went off Tylan Wallace's back Snucy Kane had 344 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: an interception off of Devin Leary over on the far field, 345 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: and then Trace Swilling Trace Willing, Yeah, I know you 346 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: know Tray Swillings entire backstore. You can tell me everything 347 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: about Tracey. I was waiting for the opportunity household name. Yes, 348 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: soon to be so base. I'm always saw in practice. Yeah, 349 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: he's a guy. He's a guy. The Ravens signed to 350 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: the practice squad midway through last year in October, and 351 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: he's he's been on multiple teams before. Yeah, this is 352 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: like his the third or fourth stop, former undrafted guy. 353 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: And he had a he had a day. I mean 354 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: he broke up back to back practice passes the tight 355 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: ends Isaiah Likely and Charlie Cole and Charlie Coller, thank 356 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: you very much. And also had one or earlier in 357 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: practice where he kind of got the ball off his 358 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: day Flowers on a pass over the middle. 359 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: So it felt like deja fee, Like all three of 360 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: those passes were over the middle, and all of a sudden, 361 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: it's like the balls on the ground, A trace Swilling 362 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: is right there in the middle of the middle of 363 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: the action, right, You're like, just trace Swill and break 364 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: it up. Everything over the middle of the field. 365 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Built just the nah the whole thing, you know, Like, 366 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean, here's a form. He's a former college cornerback, 367 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: and I think the Ravens are looking at him as 368 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: a possible you know, multiple role or whatever giving him 369 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: some looks. And so it's interesting. Former Georgia Tech player 370 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: who went out drafted in twenty twenty two just pulled 371 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: it up his page. He played, spent time with the Titans, 372 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Saints forty nine ers and now Ravens. 373 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: Well, look that Raves have an opportunity at safety. As 374 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: we know, Ginos Stone is no longer here, and you 375 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: know they drafted Snoosy Kane he just mentioned had an interception. 376 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: Another guy is Bot Braid, undrafted guy local fans. I know, 377 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: we're excited about him. He's missed a lot of time 378 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: with an injury that he first came up during working minute. 379 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes I mean not a lot of time, yea, yeah, 380 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: but so early, but it's early Turmar. 381 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: You're defensive. But he was on the field today. So 382 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: he's another guy I think, who will he'll be in 383 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: the middle of a competition there during training camp. And 384 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: then of course you know they've they've flirted with the 385 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: veteran safety market, had Jamal Adams and for a visit recently. 386 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: Not sure where that's going to go, but there's there's 387 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: an opportunity there at safety. 388 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean safety could be very much in the 389 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: evaluation mode. Like we've talked about interior offensive line, right, 390 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Like you want to give some of these young guys 391 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: the opportunity to see what they have and and prove themselves. 392 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: And if they have a really good OTAs, then it's like, okay, 393 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: all right, we don't have to make a move yet. 394 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: You know, if if they look terrible at OTAs, then 395 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: that speeds up the clock potentially of like do you 396 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: sign somebody? And we've all talked about the possibility of 397 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: signing a safety or a guard and today was a 398 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: good day for those guys who are competing to stave 399 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: off a veteran addition. 400 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. And it'll just if you 401 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 2: have guys like we've talked about Sonoocy Kane and Bo 402 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: Braid in that mix. Now you add Tray Swilling to 403 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: the conversation, it's like, oh okay, now like there's even 404 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: more competition, which is good. 405 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly offensive line. We kind of mentioned guard there 406 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: one thing that just to kind of point out, you know, 407 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: we're not really going to talk about again where guys 408 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: are lining up and how much we're playing. I think 409 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: Josh Jones has gotten a good look, you know, so 410 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: far in oca's and that's a veteran that I think 411 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: people maybe are not really haven't talked about enough in 412 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: this whole O line competition as much as they should. 413 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: And so he's a player to watch as we move forward, 414 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: I would say. 415 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 2: So. 416 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: Then I thought Ronnie Stanley, you know, we talked about 417 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: a Dafe Oway just having a really big practice on 418 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: Tuesday and some of that was working against, you know, 419 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: And I thought Ronnie had kind of a bounce back 420 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: practice on Thursday. You know, Oways still made some plays, 421 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: sniffed out of a screen pass, just had to get 422 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: spiked into the turf, had some good rushes, all that stuff. 423 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: But I thought Ronnie Stanley had a little bit of 424 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: a rebound day today. Yeah, And I think that it's 425 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: still it's again noteworthy that he's out been out here 426 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: OTAs every practice eppens to the media, Ronnie Stanley's been 427 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: out there getting reps in. 428 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that he's like to me, he's 429 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: like not really taking too many reps off, like he's 430 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: out there trying to work. And John Harwall talked about, 431 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: you know, Ronnie came here at the start of OTA's 432 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: he looks good, you know, like some of those guys. 433 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 2: He's really alluding to Oway like he's challenging him, like 434 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: you know, they're out they're they're working, and so like, yeah, 435 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: Oway guy the better of Stanley. Uh and practice on 436 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: Tuesday on a handful of occasions. But like Stanley's out there, 437 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: you know, working as well. And I think that I 438 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: think that this this could be a This is a 439 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: big year for Ronnie. Obviously there's a lot of talk 440 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: about him this offseason or this offensive line rebuild, the 441 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: reports of course about his restructured contract for this year 442 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: where he took a big pay cut. So like it's 443 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: a big year for him after all that, And I 444 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: think that he is. He is somebody I go back 445 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: to when we had Ronnie on the lounge near the 446 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: end of the season, and you know, we were talking 447 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 2: about a season and the up and down nature of it, 448 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 2: and you know, he also talked about how he feels 449 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: like I can still be that player who I was 450 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: pre injury. Like He's like, just to be clear, I 451 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: haven't lost that belief that I can be that player 452 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: that I was before the injury. Like I still think 453 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: I am that guy can be that guy, and so 454 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: I think that this is going to be a big 455 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: year for him to prove that. And I think that 456 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: the way that what I've seen from him and OTAs 457 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: is encouraging. 458 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree with that. I think that this 459 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: is a has been a positive step for Ronnie Stanley 460 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: after a tough year last year. Like he's I think, 461 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: putting in the work to have a better twenty twenty 462 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: four campaign. Yeah, and that's very good news for the 463 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: Ravens offense. 464 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: Because they Ravens need him. They seen him play a 465 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: high level this year. 466 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: They're betting on him again. Yeah, he has to play 467 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: it out. 468 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: He's a shoote. I mean, your left tackle is always important. 469 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: But like he has to. There's a lot of change 470 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 2: on this offensive line. He's not one of the pieces 471 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: that changed. He's the veteran piece of that group. Like 472 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 2: they need him to play at a high level. 473 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: And speaking of the offensive line, we have a podcast 474 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: episode with Roger Rosengarten, yes, the rookie second round pick 475 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: on for an interview. So that's dropping Monday morning. Make 476 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: sure you tune in for that one. 477 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're excited about that. You can watch it on YouTube, 478 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: our Apple website, you can also listen to it wherever 479 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: you get your podcast. Some good, good insight from Roger. 480 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: I thought just really enjoyed that conversation with him. So 481 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, 482 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: we're going to share some of the players who have 483 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: really stood out to us. 484 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: We are three players each that we picked. 485 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: Do you have any overlap, we'll find out. You're listening 486 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: to the Lounge podcast. We're coming to you from the 487 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 2: Seat Geek Studio, the brand new, fancy Seat Geek Studio. 488 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: By the way, make sure you check out all the 489 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: video episodes of a Lounge. Also, we're going to give 490 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: shout out to our friends at DraftKings Sportsbook. They are 491 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens. 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All right, 500 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: So now we want to give you all three guys each. 501 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: We did not compare notes, so we'll see if there's 502 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: any overlap. Here, go ahead and kick us off. Who 503 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 2: you got? 504 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to Aoway off the top. I 505 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: thought he just he took over practice on Tuesday and 506 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: so another player. That's a really big year for him 507 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: to you know, it's tough to say a breakout year for. 508 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, here we go another. Here we go with 509 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: a breakout conversation. 510 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: See we're gonna start this. Oh my gosh, just a mailbag. 511 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: Oh my question was who are your breakout players? 512 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: All right? 513 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: Did did Justin Mattabik have a breakout you last year? 514 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, always in the same category. No, you just 515 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: you just finish yourself, finish yourself. 516 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: If Justin Mattabik had a was a breakout player last year, 517 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: then if Odafe Oway does the same thing Mattabik did 518 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: last year, then yes he's a breakout player. Same thing 519 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: got you saw a lot of stars, you know, had 520 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: pretty good production but not great. 521 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, if he's yeah, I will give you if 522 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: o Way comes back and has like a fifteen sax 523 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: season like like Madabik had last year. 524 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: Where also now it's like which he could, which he 525 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 3: could ten? It's bibbles he had five last year. This 526 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: is the classic rumbles that counts. This is the classic 527 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: like levels to a breakout? Doesn't that to be fifty 528 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 3: like the level? 529 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: No, I'm just the league. 530 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: Well that would be a breakout, a breakout that that 531 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 3: bar is too high. 532 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Kyle Hamilton gonna have a breakout season this year, 533 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: Lamar Lamar is gonna have a breakout season this year, 534 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: three time MVP. 535 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: This is why I wrote in Bilbag. I was like, 536 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: I was like, it's hard to say what quantified for 537 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: a breakout, you know, so I gave the like has 538 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: already been a starter breakout and then like the deep cut, 539 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: like the the you know, uh, what's the word I mean, 540 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: underrated whatever? 541 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you like to put lots of levels onto like 542 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: basically trying to say, guys are breakout player. 543 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: You're such a sickler for this one subject with you. 544 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: You're such a stickler. 545 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: All right. I had Away on my list as well, 546 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: but I I wrote down four names I'll give. 547 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: You wrote down four. I thought we said we were 548 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: doing three. 549 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: I had a way also, but I want to I 550 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: wanted to give a reserve just in case I didn't 551 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 2: want too much over Okay, I agree with you on 552 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: on Away having a great week. I also just stick 553 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: at outside linebacker. I thought Tavius Robinson with somebody to 554 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: me who really has stood out, Like we talked about 555 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: him a little bit in the podcast on earlier this week, 556 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: but I just think that like this, a second year 557 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: player physically looks like he's grown. He's really active, he's 558 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: been in the backfield, he's he's got a nose for 559 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 2: the football. I just really like what I've seen from 560 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: Tavius Robinson over the course of these first two weeks 561 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: of Outa's. 562 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll stick on second year players. 563 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: Oh well, I think you might take another one of mine. 564 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: Take Trenton Simpson, the inside linebacker. I think that he's 565 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: taking a big step forward, and I honestly don't think 566 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: that it will take long before people are saying, like, man, 567 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, losing Patrick Queen's stinks, But like Trenton Simpsons 568 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: filled that whole pretty darn well. Huh and uh yeah, 569 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: he's just he's moving fast, he's he's playing downhill. He's 570 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: been really good in coverage, had a couple pass breakups 571 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. I thought that Trenton Simpson's had had a 572 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: good start to OTAs Trent. 573 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: Simpsons on my list too, I agree with you totally. 574 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: I think that, like you know, I don't want to 575 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: like go too far. You know, there's a lot of 576 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: excitement around him. I say, likely talked about him this 577 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: week and how he's looked like he's got a better 578 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: understanding the defense. He's playing more stinks. Yeah, with his instincts. 579 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 2: He's got great athleticism, but he's even bulked up and 580 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: looks even more like an NFL player after a year 581 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: in an NFL weight room and all that stuff. So, 582 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 2: like you know, I don't want to put the cart 583 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: for the horse a little bit, but I think that 584 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: like he is gonna be in a good position. You 585 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: got ro kwand Smith next to you that can allow 586 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: you to play free. I just think that, like things 587 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: are lining up for Trent and Simpson to step into 588 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: a starting job and do it at a high level. 589 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: Can I just say that there's been a lot of 590 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: hand ringing this offseason about the Ravens defense because of 591 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: their losses at linebacker, both inside and out. Patrick Queen 592 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: Jadeviion Clowney in specific, I thought that this was a 593 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: good week for really the past two weeks, but particularly 594 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: this one for that group and saying, you know what, 595 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna be all right, you know. I think Trent 596 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: and Simpson like we're gonna be all right. Tavius Robinson 597 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: stepping up, I think Adafeoway stepping up, David Ajabo. John 598 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: Harwall said that he's expected to be fool go doing 599 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: eleven on eleven's at the started training camp. 600 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: We have not seen him of an n any elevens. 601 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: He's been doing positional individual kind of stuff, but he 602 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: should be fool go by training camp. That's good news 603 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: for the outside linebackers. I think Malik ham looks good. Caam. 604 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: I was walking into Capteria and I was like, did 605 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: you you look like looking pretty? You know, pretty big 606 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: and in a good way, and he was like, yeah, 607 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: I've been I've been living in the weight room this offseason. 608 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Like he looks ready. 609 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: I mean he made the team as an undrafted Yeah. 610 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't think people should forget about Mileeke cam So 611 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: I just think and it's early, it's early, there's a 612 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: lot to prove. But I think that that outside linebacker group. Uh, 613 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: and that's we haven't even seen a Deece Isaac on 614 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, you know, the Ravens third round pick. 615 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: And so I'm excited about that. 616 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: But he came up with an injury during rookie Minni caamp. 617 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: Correct. Just on the surface of what I've seen from 618 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: the linebackers, I'm intrigued. Can I si encourage? 619 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll stick with the theme of replacement options 620 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: who are looking good to me? I had our Darius Washington, 621 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: Okay made the list. Yeah, he made my list. You know, 622 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: he had an interception in practice. You mentioned also him 623 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: coming up with a hit. I think that like he's 624 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: you know, there's an opportunity there. As we talked about 625 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: with the departure of Geno Stone or, Darius is a 626 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: guy who the Ravens have liked. Like his his issue 627 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: has been staying healthy. He's got some other than the health. 628 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: He's got some Geno Stone into He just seems to 629 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: have a little bit of a nose for the football. Yeah, 630 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: like there seemed to be in the right place at 631 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: the right time. 632 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: It's always like that was always Gino's calling card and 633 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: practice and even preseason games and then obviously yeah, transferred 634 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: regular season games last year leading the AFC and interceptions. 635 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: But like yeah, or Darius has a little bit of that. 636 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: Yes, he's a Geno was the seventh round pick. Our 637 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: Darius was undrafted. But like he's been on the team, 638 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: he's dealt with injuries, he went, he's gone on injured reserve, 639 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: come back from injury reserve. Like the I think the 640 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: Ravens have confidence him and the en they like him. 641 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: I agree, and so I've been encouraged by what I've 642 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: seen from him. 643 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: Yep, I had Nate Wiggins also on my list. 644 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 645 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: And and here's the deep cut. I kind of like 646 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: what I've seen from she Lee a little bit okay, 647 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: and uh, he got the rookie fifth round pick, got 648 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: on the field this week, and he's got a little 649 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: he's got a little Gidey up to him. Dereck Henry 650 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: didn't practice on on Thursday, so I thought you got 651 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: to see a little bit more of he Shea Lee 652 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: and some of that he gets downhill and on a track, 653 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: and he looks a lot different from Dereck Henry. Okay, 654 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: body type is very different, but like running style, I 655 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: don't think is all that different. You know, you get 656 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: him on a track and one cut and go like 657 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: that guy can break some plays and so I'm intrigued. 658 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always tough, I think with the running backs 659 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: in these unless you're just Derek Hennery and you're like 660 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: that guy looks like he's gonna be hard to tackle. Yeah, 661 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: with the running backs like in these in these practices, 662 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: like you don't necessarily see like the moves and the 663 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: tackle breaking ability, Like that's stuff that you really see 664 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: over the course of training camp and honestly preseason games. 665 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: So but I think he's he's in atriguing player. I mean, 666 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: the dude was super productive in college, got a lot 667 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: of talent. So those are our our names there. 668 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: Yep. 669 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 2: So, as Ryan mentioned, we have an episode coming up 670 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: on Monday Roger Rosegarten, Raven's second round pick. Think he's 671 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: looked good as well in practice. Super athletic guy competing 672 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: for that spot right tackle. We talked about all of 673 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: that in the conversation with him. That's going to drop 674 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: Monday morning. You can watch it on our app, our website, 675 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: and our YouTube channel. You can also listen to it 676 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. Also, head over to the 677 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: Ravens Press Past podcast feed. All of our press conferences 678 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: live there in their entirety, so subscribe to that feed 679 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: as well as this one as well. Thank you so much, yeah, 680 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening, and we will talk 681 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: with you again on Monday