WEBVTT - So Many Crimes, So Little Time 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.680 Welcome to Desperately Devoted. Join us as we explore the 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.040 human experience through the lens of the iconic show Desperate Housewise. 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.280 I'm Terry Patcher, I'm Andrea Bowen, and I'm a Mercantana. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.600 Gosh. Well, we have just been loving this episode and 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.079 all there is to talk about. So this week we 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:21.040 are shining our spotlight on episode nine, suspicious Mind. Well, 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.880 this episode I remembered, right, so a lot of them. 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:29.160 I don't why, yeah, right, why, young Andrea, did this 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.400 episode stick out to you? So we kind of I'll 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:35.600 go through the little storyline quickly, but we learned that 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.720 Julia and Zach are pen paling each other, and then 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.559 we also learned that Julie is hiding Zach up in 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:46.000 her bedroom. He has escaped from where he was the 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.720 juvenile mental health facility, and Julie's keeping him up in 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.199 her bedroom as a secret from everybody. 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.600 I guess I did have a question about that. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:59.200 I thought, wait, is Susan aware and keeping Julie's secret, 0:00:59.200 --> 0:00:59.760 because if. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.760 She is, she's a really good poker face. And I 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:02.279 feel like. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:06.000 I don't think she's aware. She's not aware, She's dealing 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.280 with a lot this episode, Susan, she's off at the 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.760 Passion show and she's fielding all physical attacks so so, 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.520 and also this might only be one night. I don't 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.360 really know how long this is. This her hiding him 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.880 up there has gone on, but in any case, she 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:24.360 has him up there and she's trying to get information 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:30.080 from him about what's going on gently but and he 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:34.600 does reveal some thing so traumatic. He reveals that he 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:39.000 had buried no pun intended, a memory from when he 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.480 was four years old that he kind of he's recently 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.560 unearthed after his mom's passing, about this argument that he 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.880 overheard his parents having, and it led him to the 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:55.640 conclusion that he was that he had a baby sister 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.160 named Dana, and that he somehow is responsible for her death. 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:04.040 And it's just like this crazy admission, and you feel 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.360 so much for this young boy who has no outlet, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.680 and his father is denying him any sort of therapy 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.200 in which to discuss any of this, and so he's 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.320 just left with all these feelings and Julie is trying 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.600 to provide him a safe place to talk about these 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.720 things and be a friend, be a good friend to him. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.280 And then this scene ends with him kissing Julie. And 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.520 that's you know, one of the reasons why this episode 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.799 stands out in my memory so much, because I had 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:39.400 probably had I had had a friend, I had been kissed. No, no, but. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.519 I had had Who was your first kiss? 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.520 It was at school? It was nothing interesting. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.919 It was not a great school during school day. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.799 Well, I went to a performing arts school in Manhattan, 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:56.880 and half of our day was not kissing, was practicing 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:58.440 kissing from when we were going to have to do 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.880 it on screen, right right, No, but this was I mean, 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.280 this was probably my second I mean I was not. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.400 I had not had a lot of experience. I was fourteen, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:12.920 as we know, and so it was nerve wracking. It 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.800 was very I was very nervous and trying to act 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.160 like I wasn't. And it's weird, right because you just 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.079 this is one of those things about being a child 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.560 actor and a child performer is that you often have 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.760 to act out things before you've had a lot of 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.359 experience doing them in your personal life. And you're not 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.600 just acting them out for eventually millions of people who 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.360 will watch it, but you're doing it in front of 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.400 your coworkers, and you're doing it, you know, my mom 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.760 was there, probably standing by the monitor, although she always 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.640 handled it so well and so so respectfully to me, 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.080 and you know, all of those things. But yeah, it was. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:54.880 Totally Also, this pre dates by decades, this idea of 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:59.240 an intimacy coordinator. I mean, I can't even begin to 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:03.640 tell you, like all of the yeah, I mean the 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:07.680 stories from way back in the nineties or whatever of 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:15.200 just how uncomfortable a certain person might or situation. I mean, 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.240 so it seems to me that there should have been 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.200 somebody there. I know your mom was there, but like, 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:27.560 do you recall did the director did anybody like talk 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.560 you through so Andrea, is this okay when he's going 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.960 to lean forward and just kiss you on the lips, 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.320 or like, do you remember any of that. 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:42.440 I don't recall anyone really acting in that capacity. No, 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:47.040 obviously it was a pretty tame scene and a pretty 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.800 innocent moment, but no, And I do think that nowadays, 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.320 hopefully we are providing that to providing that level of 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.320 support to all performers of all ages, but particularly children, 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:03.080 because it is it is uncomfortable. But I think Cody 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.760 and I Cody, who played Zach, navigated the best way 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.080 as possible Something that stood out to me also is 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.560 that I'm realizing there was another level too in that 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.000 I was the age I was, but I think Cody 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:18.120 was maybe seventeen, so not a huge difference, but it's 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.120 different enough than that he probably wasn't kissing fourteen year 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.120 old girls in his personal life. You know, that is 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:27.960 kind hosts on right, Decidedly there's an age gap there 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:32.400 that that, right is kind of weird. But but I 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.080 don't have any negative memories of that moment, I will 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:39.400 say that, but definitely a weird, a weird thing to 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:40.160 have to act out. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:45.040 Yeah there, Yeah, I think I imagine there's some sort of 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:49.160 presumption that like you'll just be okay, you'll just do it. Yeah, 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:53.680 you know, I do think that feels familiar for for me, 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.880 even as an adult actor, Like you know that I 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.839 don't know whatever it is, like even the silly things 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.039 like you jump through the floor and your legs so like, ope, 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.719 you'll just do it because you know it. And if 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:12.159 there's ever any pushback, there's then like the label start 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:13.800 right right thrown at you. 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.240 But totally rewatching it. My cheeks got very hot again. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.920 I mean, just from a writing standpoint in that moment. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.480 I found it a little surprising and interesting the idea 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:31.839 that a level of genuine friendship and closeness and safety 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:36.680 that Julie is providing can be misconstrued or open a 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:41.240 door to a physical intimacy, because I don't feel like 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:47.440 Julie is saying, oh, I'm romantically leaning in. I mean, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:51.960 and she physically isn't leaning in either, but Zak takes 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.000 it that way, and I think that is I'm telling 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:59.640 I'm excited to see where that that storyline develops. I 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.880 feel like on the other side of the storyline, we 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.599 have Lynette who has finally had her come to Jesus 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:11.120 moment and stop taking her medication, and I like that 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.880 she is relying on Tom, who's taken you know, the 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:20.760 week off, to help her, even in his somewhat hapless way, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.800 get back on her feet and kind of have a 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:26.520 reset and try to relax. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:28.160 He's holding the baby. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.160 The baby has come back, yes, And I just a 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.440 very small note again on the fashion of the show. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.600 I think this is the third or fourth episode where 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:41.640 Lynette is wearing this pearl choker necklace that she has 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.000 been wearing in every single episode, and I gotta say, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.840 I love it, And now I'm gonna go try to 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.760 find a pearl choker like that and buy it, because 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.920 it the imaging has happen. I've seen it so many 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:53.960 times now that I'm like, I need that, I need 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.120 to I love that. I love that moment, And I 0:07:56.160 --> 0:08:00.120 think it's interesting that her character hasn't changed that. I 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.360 think it feels telling about her kind of being a 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.840 frazzled mom who of course doesn't have time to be 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.440 changing her jewelry when she gets ready, and there maybe 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:08.800 it's a. 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.160 Special piece that she wears in her life, because you know, 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.400 there are people who wear the same jewelry all the 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.640 time and shower in it and sleep in it and 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:15.960 all that. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.160 But yeah, yeah, I don't know. It just it stood 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:18.480 out to me. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.880 So Brie and Rex are at this swim meet where 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.360 Andrew is apparently like going to be going to college 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.840 for swimming, like on a scholarship or whatever, and. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:33.679 They begin to. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:42.040 Argue about whether they've made the right choice because Andrew 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.200 is saying some pretty crazy things like you know that 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.960 like he's off the hook, and that you know, he's 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.600 kind of like doesn't seem to be bothered by the 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.800 fact that he's nearly potentially killed someone. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.680 Yeah, and bree is it seems to be coming down 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.480 on the line of we have to find a way 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.840 to discipline him further. And Rex is saying, well, we 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.360 took away his you know, phone, we took away the TV. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.520 He's grounded, Like, what more can we do? And I 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.920 think it's so interesting that at the swim meet she 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:18.320 says we should make him stop swimming competitively, like that 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:22.080 should be the punishment. And I'm I mean at which 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.480 I love because they're arguing over who loves him more 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.080 or loves him in the right way. And I think 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.920 my favorite line of the episode has to go to Rex, 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.240 who says he hung out in your womb for a 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:34.800 couple of months in the eighties. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.760 Yeah, that one felt personal. I'll say, as someone who's 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.000 got someone hanging out in their womb, it's a little 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:44.160 bit more than that. Rex. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:45.280 Yeah, yeah, he's so. 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:49.680 He's so dismissive, of course, as always of Breeze feelings. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.400 But I I do actually think and I'm curious to 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.959 hear both of your takes. I think I fall on 0:09:56.080 --> 0:10:00.400 Rex's side of the argument in the sense that while 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:06.720 I too am horrified that Andrew is having seemingly no remorse, 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.240 although I would say I think him smoking so much 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.959 pot is potentially indicative of the fact that he's having 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.320 feelings that he doesn't want to address, that he's trying 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:15.800 to bury. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.920 Or we should note that we we know, we learn 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.920 that Andrew is smoking a lot of thought. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.400 Yeah in this episode, and I think that's a telling sign. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:28.960 But I do not think the correct to me parenting 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.920 choice is to take the one thing that your child 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:38.120 is passionate about that is actually a constructive, potentially life 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:43.439 affirming activity that gives them structure and discipline and focus 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:48.520 and ambition and take that one thing away as a punishment. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.640 I don't know what do you guys think? It really 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.160 stood out to me, this divide between Brie and Rex. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.960 I have to say I used to tell people all 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.319 the time that I could ever weigh in on these 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.560 kinds of like real life parenting things because you never 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.599 did anything wrong, Emerson, and I never had to punish you. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.800 I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast Are You a Charlotte? 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:25.280 The most anticipated guest from season three is here the 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.559 Tray to My Charlotte. Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.800 all of the magical tray in Charlotte moments. He reveals 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.679 what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.000 Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.480 literally I was like, this doesn't track for me at all. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.440 When he found out Trey's shortcomings, I'm kind. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:47.160 Of excited to talking about. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:47.280 You know. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.360 I think he's he's a guy spends time in Central Park. 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.040 You know, he's probably be some. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.000 Surgery stuff, you know. And I was like all this 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.280 kind of stuff going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:56.240 and they said, but. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.880 He's impotent, and I was like, he's impotent, and why 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.959 he chose not to return to inges like that? They 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.480 came and presented an idea and I was like, I 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:06.280 get I see it. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.840 It's so kind of a one joke idea. You don't 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:09.480 want to miss this. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.400 Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the iHeartRadio app, 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.840 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.200 I think I tend to agree with you Emerson on 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.880 the punishment being let me take away the thing that 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:28.000 is a positive source for you to focus on in 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:32.400 your life as a form of forcing you to reconcile 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.400 with your bad behavior. Maybe not the right call, but 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.880 I also it's hard to put yourself in breeze shoes 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.880 in this episode. It would be very scary to watch 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:48.439 your teenage child, your teenage son do something so reckless 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:53.920 with such a huge scary consequences of maybe taking someone's life, 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.240 and be so callous about it, be so cavalier about Well, 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.520 at least I'm off the hook, you know, and so 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:06.320 I while I agree, I also think for Brie, I 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:10.400 don't fault her necessarily for not knowing how to get 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.480 through to him. Yeah, and this is another form of desperation. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:18.160 I guess she's really desperate to find a way to 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.520 get him to recognize what he's done. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.880 Which leads us to like, what was my I think 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:32.800 most desperate moment was So Brie finds out that Andrew 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:37.600 is smoking pot, and so she makes him pee in 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:44.920 a cup, and then she urgently drives the urine over 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.800 to the golf course where Rex is in the middle 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.920 of playing eighteen holes. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.840 I mean, crazy behavior. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:14:00.200 That's a crazy decision because even if Rex was to 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.120 agree with her, it's not like he's going to leave 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.960 the golf game and take the pe to the doctor 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:12.080 or wherever you take it to get tested. Like she 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.600 was definitely out of her mind in this maneuver. But 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.720 it leaves them to be literally on a golf course 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:24.080 arguing in front of everybody about what is the right 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:29.680 way to handle this. And he says, oh, just it's 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:35.840 so heartbreaking. He basically says that you know, everything about 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:40.600 their marriage and everything was just a lie and he 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.760 hated it all and he's always hated it and it's 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:49.240 always been bad. And so she takes the urine and 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.240 she rows it on him. It's one of those like 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.400 visceral things where you know, they've shown us this. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:57.800 Jar of liquid. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.320 Yeah, it looks exactly like you're you know, of course 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.760 it wasn't urine, but it looks like uric. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:04.360 Thank you for coming. 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:08.240 And so it's very hard for us to believe, like 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.640 we feel like actual urine got thrown on Rex and 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:20.080 it is so disgusting, Like it's just so disgusting. And 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:24.240 then she has this line where she says, if you 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.880 were my mom, I would want to smoke pot too. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.560 Yes, such a good line, Oh my god. 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.720 Yeah, and then she throws the urine on him and 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.160 she's and He's like, why did you do that? And 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:40.240 he said and and she says, because it's the same 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.960 thing you just did to all the memories I've had 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:48.400 of our marriage, and I mean, poor Brie. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:53.960 Yeah, I really do feel I feel for breathe and 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.720 and to pivot a little bit, there are quite a 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:02.120 few physical altercations happening in this episode. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.640 Wait wait, wait before can we back all the way 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.080 back up to the Susan and Gabby thing, because yes, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:14.480 this is my favorite line and also like I we 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.440 we We've been talking about it now for nine episodes. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.239 You you personally have been waiting for this moment. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:23.120 In her affair. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.680 Yes, okay, and I forgot, genuinely I forgot, Like when 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.400 did this happen? And were there any ever come up 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.440 ins or not or whatever. But we we are at 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:36.320 this fashion show or the readying of the fashion show, 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:42.800 and Susan Uh sees under the table that Gabby has 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.760 taken her foot out of her high heel and is 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.240 now massaging John's bratch. 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:54.000 And old move. 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:54.280 And she sees that nearby. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:05.439 Okayah, fine form, so so she Susan marches over to 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:11.840 Gabby's house and Uh and Gabby's like Hey, you know, 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.640 do you want to help me with the with the 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.040 with the clothes or something? And Susan says, sure, do 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.080 you want to tell me why you had your foot 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:25.280 in John rowlands crotch yesterday? And I just I love 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.080 sort of the comedy. I mean, it's such a heavy thing. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.560 It's like, do you want to do this? Oh? 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:30.800 Sure, do you want to do this? 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:36.600 Tell you? And then I loved this order. Susan says, 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:42.440 he's in high school, it's illegal, and you're married, and 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:48.320 like that is the order in which she kind of 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:49.240 puts the act back. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.520 But finally someone gets that order of offenses right. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.880 But then right after that, and this is like where 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.520 I think Susan is a little annoying. Right after that, 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:05.640 she does completely take a tangential left turn away from 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:11.680 the illegality of it all and just completely buries her 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.240 plants her, you know, foot in the ground of you're 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:19.840 married and it's so wrong to have an affair on 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.520 your spouse. And I was so hurt when that happened 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.280 to me, And how can you do that to Carlos? 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.480 And I just kept thinking like okay, okay, okay, but 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.040 the bigger thing is here. Wait, let's go back high 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:37.200 school illegal, and then and then you're married, like, yeah, wait, 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.520 almost eighteen, those are the words that are used. I'm 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.600 almost eighteen. So this started when he was sixteen or 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.679 sixteen and a half, because it's been going on for 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.720 a year. So wait, forget about the fact that, yes, 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.040 it's bad that your husband cheats on you or whatever, 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.160 but wait, go back high school illegal. 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:56.159 Yeah. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.199 Although I will say, I mean, I think as a 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.879 character motivator, it makes sense that and I love just 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.760 on a personal level that in this podcast we have 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:08.520 been talking so much about when is this affair gonna 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:09.160 be exposed? 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.919 And it is your character Susan, which. 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:13.800 I totally forgot, Yeah, who is a. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:18.960 Catalyst of exposing it. But she has been so devastated 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.439 by her husband cheating on her that, of course, in 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:27.040 addition to in high school and illegal, the cheating element 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.840 feels personal to Susan. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.560 Right, She's still walking around with that as kind of 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:32.480 a raw nerve. 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.800 And so it is so extra unfortunate that the person 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:44.720 who is so morally like upset and offended by this 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:50.040 action is the person who gets blamed. When John's mom 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.320 sees her talking to John, of course, John's coming over 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.560 to say, you know, I heard that you told Gabby 0:19:55.600 --> 0:20:00.560 that you saw us, and Susan is really tender thoughtful 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.560 to him, and you know, touches his face, and his 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:08.040 mom completely misconstrues it and pulls out of the runway 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.439 show because she's so upset, and then shows up to 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:17.399 assault Susan, who looks so beautiful in her white dress 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.560 and so angelic I know, and she's gonna be the 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:23.040 closer they're gonna reorder even though everyone looks so beautiful, 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:26.800 she just is shining, and even Eatie is eating her words. 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:32.600 And then she just gets literally torn apart and push 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.760 on to the stage with the broken heel and her 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:37.399 crotch out, looking. 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.879 Like a little baby deer or something. 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:43.399 Down you still look so sweet, and I actually I 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:49.280 wanted to ask you because obviously misfortune befalls Susan a lot, 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.160 and this felt like such an epitome of that moment 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.440 where she is just trying to do the right thing 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:58.480 and then literally gets blamed. And thank god that Gabby 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:00.879 takes some accountability later in the or else I might 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.119 not have been able to live with myself. 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:10.800 Hi. 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.240 It's Jenny Garth, host of the I Choose Me podcast 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.080 this week. I'm so excited to welcome my friend Gabrielle 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:21.879 carteris the Andrea Zuckerman from Beverly Hills nine o two 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.800 one OHO to the pod. We're choosing to get real. 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.880 I applied to the networks about my age and contracts. 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.000 They never would have hired me if they had known 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.080 my age. We're choosing to be honest. 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:33.960 She looked at me, and she said, this business is 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:35.720 about the mask, which you have neither of. 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:37.919 Now we're choosing to get nostalgic. 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.600 Listen to I Choose Me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:43.840 or wherever you get your podcasts. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.240 Mom, I wanted to know, how did it feel to 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:51.360 play a character that misfortune befell so consistently. 0:21:53.080 --> 0:22:01.960 H What a good question. I think in the beginning, 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:12.199 I really enjoyed the physical comedy as a challenge, you know. 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:18.919 I really enjoyed not trying to be a you know, 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:24.240 a clownish buffoon, but like to have the things be 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:30.439 you know, cemented in something that seemed sort of real. 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:39.159 And then this physical flaw mistake situation happens, you know, 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:45.200 and I I also like slipping on the banana peel. 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:47.840 I also like the pie in the face. Like I 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:50.800 grew up watching Lucile Ball, Like you know, I love 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.840 Lucy was my favorite show all all you know, all 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:57.200 the Mary Tyler Moore's and the and then and then 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:00.760 the you know, the Young Frankenstein and the Anie Python 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:06.800 and whatever like like all those comedic rhythms and and 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:12.879 I don't know that they they're they're just inspirations and 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:16.159 they just live in me. So so at first I 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:21.320 think I really enjoyed it, and then myself kind of 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.280 like the audience that that came to say that Susan 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:32.239 was klutzy. You know, I didn't love that, And I 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:41.119 think that label came from how many times Susan had mishaps. 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.600 But you know, you go back to it was like 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:47.879 episode two or three where the whole sort of intro 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:54.240 is about how Susan is unlucky and you know she 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:59.080 they just follow through with that, like things, no matter 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:03.600 how well and tended Susan was, things were not going 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:09.280 to go her way. Yeah, and sometimes you were on 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:13.320 her side, and sometimes I think that quality was exhaustive. 0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.879 Right, I mean, it totally works in this scene, but 0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:18.120 it's working so far. 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:23.080 Yeah, Well, I mean, in general, I guess I love 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:29.840