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Speaker 1: moving in with her? Well that's bed timing. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: I twenty five mail, moved in with my girlfriend, twenty

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Speaker 1: four female of four years, three weeks ago. She chose

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Speaker 1: the only name on the lease? Or is it with him?

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Speaker 2: I think she's the only name on the lease.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. And she's the one that can't afford it,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. She works part time and has some savings.

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Speaker 1: She used to furnish the place according to her taste.

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Speaker 1: Despite my objections. I felt she overspent and the money

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Speaker 1: could have been better spent on other things put in

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Speaker 1: I see you if you know where this is going?

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Speaker 1: Do you see it? Did a few friends over on Monday.

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Speaker 1: When I came home, she had ordered food, and as

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Speaker 1: I normally come home from work at five, she was

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Speaker 3: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: They were a little drunk and one of her friends

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Speaker 1: to my girlfriend and was quite handsy. So like he

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Speaker 1: had written poetry to his girlfriend and this friend and

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Speaker 1: what or maybe handsy with him? Let's find out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I found it odd and asked her where she had

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Speaker 1: heard that. Oh, she just did it from memory. She goes, uh,

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Speaker 1: we just read your love letters to her before watching

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Speaker 1: a movie. My girlfriend was laughing with them. Her sister

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Speaker 3: And sorry, sorry, was this the friend that was getting

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Speaker 1: To be clear, her other friend and Opie's girlfriend's sister.

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Speaker 1: Those her friends and Opie's girlfriend's sister. Yes, and they

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Speaker 1: And her sister made a remark about how she wanted

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Speaker 3: It was the sister. Oh my god. Okay, wow, I'm

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Speaker 3: in shock. I'm in shock.

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Speaker 1: I was furious, but due to her drunkness, I thought

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Speaker 1: it was impossible talk to her, so I left for

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Speaker 1: my mother's house on Tuesday. She called me seventeen times.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot, but I ignored it. She also sent

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Speaker 1: I told her in person how hurt I was for

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Speaker 1: over sharing what we do in private. I guess Opie's

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Speaker 3: Just doing some the spiciest of sleep. We're talking iciest

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Speaker 3: of sleep, Ghost Pepper level spicy sleep. She said, the

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Speaker 3: girls were impressed with me, and that is why they

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Speaker 3: She said. Once I gave her the letters, they were

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Speaker 3: hers to share with whom she pleased. So I told

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Speaker 3: the decision to not share more of myself with her. Ooh,

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Speaker 1: Oh. Today she came to my mother's apologizing. She wanted

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Speaker 1: I told her no, and that way, what the root?

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Speaker 1: It's wow, Shela. So I drove to my father's place,

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Speaker 3: Whoa it was not on the lease conspiracy theory, which

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Speaker 3: I think was Riley's conspiracy theory that I'm just blatantly

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's some forty chests right there. This

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Speaker 1: phoning and texting, and I blocked her. She then made

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Speaker 1: told me to not take things out of proportion. I

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Speaker 1: am almost certain I did the right thing, but maybe

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Speaker 1: She follows, my man, that's why I'm doing a throwaway

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Speaker 1: count here. So TLDR. OPI's girlfriend shared personal letters he

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Speaker 1: wrote to her with friends, and OPI broke up with her.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think should Ope talk it out

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Speaker 1: is an update. Okay, there's a thick book juesdy update coming,

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Speaker 1: But let's break this thing down first. This was this

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Speaker 3: This was just like going all over the place from

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Speaker 3: the beginning, good steps, the friend and thank you with

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Speaker 3: a friend and or the girlfriend's friend and the girlfriend's

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Speaker 1: Imagine poetry so good that all of your girlfriend's friends

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Speaker 1: want to bone you. Bro's pen game is off the chair.

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Speaker 1: The pen is mightier than the sword. The pen is

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Speaker 1: really and apparently his sword is pretty mighty too. Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: hey pen is WHOA no further explanation.

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Speaker 3: So, uh, I do think that Op did overreact, but

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Speaker 1: I guess yeah, he felt those were personal letters that

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Speaker 3: I guess maybe he is more hung up on the like, hey,

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Speaker 3: just like what kind of personality do you want to

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: The guy is absolutely within his right and he's like,

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Speaker 3: this is not what I want in a relationship.

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Speaker 1: He is within his rights to do that.

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Speaker 3: However, I probably would have like sat down and been like, hey, like,

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Speaker 1: Was what they've been dating for four years, I think

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Speaker 1: that deserves I think it. I think golden what she

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Speaker 1: I'm not that like sensitive about people knowing about my

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Speaker 1: four years of relationship is also a little bit childish. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I would agree, especially in this scenario where it's not

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Speaker 1: like there's any like abuse or anything that would make

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Speaker 1: talking in person difficult. It's more just like someone transgressed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd almost be like, hey, you can still like

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Speaker 3: and just having a chance to communicate back and forth

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Speaker 3: because maybe this was just a thing she got to

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Speaker 3: and then there's a place to work back from there.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, who knows. But I think having that conversation

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Speaker 1: is really important. Yes, but there is an update. Opie

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Speaker 1: It's not just the love letters that I wrote intimate

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Speaker 1: There was information about my family those letters. The intimacy

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Speaker 1: which I think is totally fair, but that is definitely

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Speaker 3: I will say most people do kind of keep most

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Speaker 1: But like, you can't assume. You can't assume everyone, especially

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Speaker 1: communicate it. Yeah, I know girls that will like anything

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Speaker 1: group chat, right, Like Riley and I have had conversations

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Speaker 1: like when you talk to your girl, you're talking to

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Speaker 3: Rightly? You just you just blew my mind that wow

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Speaker 3: it's like it's like the and then it becomes more private,

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Speaker 3: and then it becomes a private yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Like dude, I've been on I've been seeing this

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Speaker 1: Still yeah, I think so whoa, I think so that

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like still I don't know they're

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Speaker 5: Speaking of the sex lives stuff, some girls do talk

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Speaker 5: feel like it's different when guys do it.

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Speaker 2: Its locker roomy. Never guys do it.

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Speaker 1: Well. It just depends how it's done. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but what do you got from so Another comment

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Speaker 4: says nine and three of four says info not d

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Speaker 4: a hole for breaking up, but what arrangements did you

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Speaker 1: Leaving her stranded with a place she can't afford because

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Speaker 1: you were meant to both pay is a dick move,

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Speaker 1: which I agree. Why are you not on the lease?

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Speaker 1: So Op responds, We're supposed to go half and half,

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Speaker 1: but she overspent on the stuff you bought. I covered

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Speaker 3: Are going into an apartment. There's so much amazing furniture

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you talk, what is that new? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Two grand? Two grand? You're telling me? If you pick

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Speaker 3: Literally forget street in someone's apartment. You go in someone's

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Speaker 1: Come on, what are you doing? You can flip couches

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Speaker 3: That's right, Just just go to garage sales, go rush

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Speaker 1: Talk out of college. Just do that. Eighteen dollars a day.

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Speaker 3: They call your parents say hey, you why did you

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Speaker 1: Bro? This is Gary ve Imp. I feel like this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, is an overreaction. This feels like an overreaction.

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Speaker 1: My brother told her there was zero chance of that

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Speaker 1: Going into more details, Oh no, what was in the

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Speaker 6: Bro?

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Speaker 1: Bro over the line, yeah.

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Speaker 1: This forced my sister to tell my mother about it,

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Speaker 1: She ruined it for everyone everyone, No more love letters

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Speaker 1: She called him a lot of names, then phoned him

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Speaker 1: She filmed it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she getting views though.

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Speaker 2: That's where I want to know.

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Speaker 1: I mean I feel like he should just talk to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we need to stop all of this running around.

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Speaker 1: It's like, just get this all sorted out, tell her

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and it's also prolonging this whole interaction, like

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Speaker 1: Then because but also she was only not on the

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Speaker 1: So it's like he technically like or like he would

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Speaker 1: But even then it's like she has to find a

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Speaker 3: Yes, he finds the new roommate and pays his path

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Speaker 1: My brother cut her off. She phoned back more apologetic instead.

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Speaker 1: What did she have to do to make me go back?

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Speaker 1: He asked her if she would be okay with me

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be okay with it. I guess the double standard

438
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: has completely turned me off, as she told my brother

439
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: that if he receive something through a romantic relationship, then

440
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: it stays between those four eyes. It's not that she

441
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: doesn't understand that what she did is wrong. She expects

442
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: me to be okay with it, as in her mind,

443
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: her feelings matter more in the relationship. She also thinks

444
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: that me, being taller and bigger than her, that she

445
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't have felt threatened by her friends or sisters, as

446
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: I was not in harm's way. He then blocked her

447
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: as she phoned him several times over and left him

448
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: crying messages and then some angry messages to delete her nudes.

449
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: Her sister left an angry message with the friend that

450
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: helped me with asking for the deposit and She threatened

451
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: him that if I ever leaked to her nudes, I

452
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't live to regret it. What's with all this news?

453
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: She told on the messages to me that there is

454
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Speaker 1: something she is very insecure here about sharing about her body,

455
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: and she doesn't want me to share that without her consent. This,

456
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: I think this all started from the hypothetical.

457
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 3: Brother said, a hypothetical, And now and this is and

458
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: that's that is also a terrible hypothetical. Those two things

459
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: are not equivalent at all, love letters and nudes, No,

460
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Speaker 3: because like I mean, they're both bad. I guess they're similar,

461
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: and they're both bad and you shouldn't shouldn't share them.

462
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: But like the nudes, that's like one illegal almost certainly right.

463
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: Two like like, yes, there is having some private communication

464
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Speaker 3: whatever between someone, but I don't know. To me, that's worse.

465
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I agree, that's worse. Yeah, sharing nudes, Yeah,

466
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 3: especially especially if a woman. Yeah, like it's that's really bad.

467
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Speaker 1: Well, you're going to just share nudes with me anytime? Yes?

468
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.

469
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Speaker 1: Sexy calendar coming to scored?

470
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: How do you think we make all this money?

471
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: So I'm getting a new number as I can do

472
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: so with my current payment plan. I'm going forward from

473
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: this and hoping that I make better decisions in the future.

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00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: Thank you to all that helped me with good advice.

475
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: Tildr ex girlfriend breached Ope's trust and the relationship is over.

476
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Speaker 1: And we have some quick relevant comments before we wrap

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Speaker 1: this story up. But while I'm reading these relevant comments,

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Speaker 1: do you think Opie made the right decision? Do you

479
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: think going no contact immediately was the right decision? And

480
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: do you think nudes are equal to love letters or not?

481
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: Let us know in the comments but relevant comments. So

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Speaker 1: OPI on his family communicating with his ex. Op says,

483
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: my family is ignoring her. They are not enjoying this.

484
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: My brother and my friends have blocked her on their phones.

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00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: Her sister came to my mother's home. She also came

486
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: to my mother's home. My mother doesn't even open the

487
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: door when she sees it's someone from their side now

488
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: and she will continue to do so. I admit I

489
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: made a mistake with revealing about my sister's miscarriages, but

490
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: I thought my now ex would keep it quiet and

491
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: emotionally support me. It was not my direct trauma, but

492
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: seeing my sister suffer and her calling me all the

493
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: time during the day and night when she went through miscarriages,

494
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: was hard on my mental health. And then op on

495
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: pictures he had of his ex and deleting them in

496
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: front of her. I don't want to meet her again.

497
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: We are done. I don't owe her peace of mind.

498
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: As many told me in my DMS, I would never

499
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: post them. But it's not my problem anymore. Any hang

500
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: ups she has are her own.

501
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: M I don't know about that part.

502
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Speaker 3: I hate all of this, So I answer your questions

503
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: firstly about how he was handling things. I think he

504
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: made all the wrong decisions. I think everyone here made

505
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: all the wrong decisions at every single point. The girlfriend

506
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: sharing all the stories and everything that was happening in

507
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: like doxing, doxing people, the the boyfriend immediately going like

508
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: I'm breaking up with you. I'm never talking to you again,

509
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 3: elongating this whole process. The brother with this stupid hypothetical.

510
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 6: Dude and totally over op yes, like all of this

511
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 6: stuff with the nudes came from nowhere, but the brother's

512
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 6: idiot mouth. Yeah, but you're not safe because you're an

513
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 6: idiot too, because you should be like, yeah, of course,

514
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 6: I'll delete it and send you send you like, you

515
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 6: should absolutely do that, like especially when requested, and if

516
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 6: you're trying to show that you're like the better example

517
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 6: of like what to do in these types of situations.

518
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: You should be the bigger person to do that and.

519
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: Not be like, oh well, too bad like that, because

520
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: that makes her feel like, oh what if he does

521
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: What if he decides.

522
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: To get revenge? Yeah, yes, Op doesn't owe her anything. Yes,

523
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: but if he's literally just thinking selfishly, if he's just thinking,

524
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: I just want to be done with this. I don't

525
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: want this person being crazy and going all over the place,

526
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: the best thing would be to delete it in.

527
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: Front of her.

528
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he is also being petty, I feel because

529
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 3: he wants to like, you're gonna do this?

530
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: Fine, I'm never gonna talk to you again.

531
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: You you put me on all these tiktoks. Fine, I

532
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what will happen to your nudes, what

533
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: happens from here?

534
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: We're just contact. But yeah, well but but.

535
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: His response though of like cause she reached out or something,

536
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, I want you to like give

537
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 3: me proof of the nudes being deleted. Oh, it's like

538
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna This is basically this is like, at

539
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 3: this point, this is like out of my hands. We're

540
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: out of the relationship. It doesn't even matter anymore. When

541
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: that that actually does matter absolutely, Oh my god.

542
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, it's a it's a crap crap show,

543
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: super super stinky crap show. Something Also I learned today,

544
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: And so this this girl that I've been seeing, she

545
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: says she would never date someone with a snapchat because apparently, yeah,

546
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: because apparently people are like using snapchats to send nudes

547
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: all the time. I knew that was a thing in

548
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: like high school, right, but like the people are still

549
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: doing that like adults, I guess on snapchat. I guess,

550
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: so they're like hide it from people. That's crazy, you.

551
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: Would think, I mean, high school, it makes sense because

552
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: you you don't even need ten seconds. Now as an adult,

553
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: they don't have a second thing anymore.

554
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: They took credit it, they got rid of it.

555
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: Oh really, that's why we don't even know. I haven't

556
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: used snapchat in agents neither. Yeah, that's crazy.

557
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: I didn't know that either.

558
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: I also, like, I guess I get sending nudes in

559
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: like a long distance relationship, but since I haven't been

560
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: in a long distance relationship, I really just go see

561
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: that is true in the person I'm not. Yeah, I'm

562
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: not really like I'm like, yeah, like send me nudes

563
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: or sending nudes.

564
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I feel uncomfortable, like what if someone

565
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 5: hacks my phone?

566
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: That's true, But that being said, when I was a

567
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: long distant relationship Nude City dude just sending on nudes

568
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: dongs left, right down. Yeah, so many. Let's get into

569
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Speaker 1: this next story.