1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: we are discussing me as a potter of the gets. 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: We're also talking about the new report on Kurt Cobain's 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: cause of death, my Super Bowl hangover that won't go away, 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: and we get into your emails, comments, dms, and as 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: always a whole lot of rosie. This is the podcast 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: know that the best history is the history that gets buried. 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Disgrace Land is where I tell the stories they didn't 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: All right, Discos, let's get into it. Mia Zapata, lead 21 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: singer for the Seattle band The Gits, died on July seventh, 22 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, at twenty seven years old, just shy 23 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: of her twenty eighth birthday. She was murdered tragically, and 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine had Mia lived, how her music 25 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: in life might have evolved. Mia was both inspired and inspiring, 26 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: in part of a growing scene and born of a 27 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: generation steeped in rebellion. Whatever road she might have pursued 28 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: creatively or personally, I'm sure it would have been compelling 29 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: for us as music fans. Her friend Kurt Cobaine would 30 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: be dead less than a year later, on April fifth, 31 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, from a self inflicted shotgun wound, but 32 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: it's hard not to attribute the musician's debilitating heroin addiction 33 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: as a cause of his demise as well. In two 34 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: thousand and two, grunge avatar Lane Staley from Alice in Chains, 35 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: he fell victim to his own heroin addiction on the 36 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: exact same day as Kurt April fifth. His cause of 37 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: death officially was an overdose of heroin and cocaine, a 38 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: deadly combination commonly referred to on the street as a 39 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: speedball lane frequently shot speedballs with Seattle vocalist and poet 40 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: Mark Lanigan of the Screaming Trees. Mark was the last 41 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: person Kurt Cobain called before he died. Mark's band, Screaming 42 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: Trees were recorded a song in nineteen ninety six referencing 43 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: me as a pada called Dying Days. Mike McCready, Seattle 44 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: guitarist from Pearl Jam. He guests on the song Dying 45 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Days the Miyaz, a Pada tribute by Screaming Trees, and 46 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: McCready handles the tunes guitar solo. Now, Mike McCready's playing 47 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: on that tune and on basically everything that he's ever 48 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: recorded is heavily influenced by the greatest rock and roll 49 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: guitarist of all time and fellow Seattle native, Jimmy Hendricks. 50 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy died back in nineteen seventy. Now had he been 51 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: born in a later generation, Mike McCready's Temple of the 52 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: Dog bandmate and Soundgarden frontman Chris Cornell thinks that Jimmy 53 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Hendricks would have been too heady a guitar player to 54 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: break through and to make it in the modern music industry. 55 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: All right, that's understandable. I guess Chris Cornell was speaking 56 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: about the music industry in twenty eleven, which was firmly 57 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: on a downward spiral by then. But what if Jimi 58 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Hendrix had lived? What if Lane Staley or even Mark Lanigan, 59 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: As hard as that is to believe, what if these 60 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: dudes lived? What kind of music would they be making today? 61 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: What if Chris Cornell lived or Kurt Cobaine? What would 62 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: music even be like if these monumental voices were still 63 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: making it? Where would Kirk Cobaine's music and voice fit 64 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: into today's modern culture. That's a super interesting question to 65 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: think about for me. Anyways, it's hard, you know, I 66 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: think about, you know, would Kurt still be in Nirvana? 67 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: That's hard for me to believe. I believe that Kurt 68 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: wasn't long for the band no matter what, or at 69 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: the very least that he was going to make big 70 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: changes with Nirvana, either in sound, line up, production or 71 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: all three. And a lot of people ask what would 72 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Kurt think of Foo Fighters? What would you think of 73 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 1: Dave Grohl modern day Dave Grohl, not to dunk on Dave, 74 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: who's had a off a couple of years. By rock 75 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: Star standards, but I think Food Fighters would nauseate Kurt Cobain. 76 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: And yes, I'm aware of what Davis said about Kurt's 77 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: positive reaction to some of his early demos that ended 78 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: up becoming fully produced songs on the Food Fighters first album. 79 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: I'm speaking less about the music here and more about 80 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: the hammy, super comfortable, normy, mainstream place that Dave Grohl 81 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: occupies in the music industry. I cannot see Kurt Cobain 82 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: vibing with that at all. But it's hard, almost impossible, 83 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: to predict what these artists who were taken too soon 84 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: would be like had they lived. I'm just guessing, That's 85 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: all I'm doing. I have no idea. I'm basing it 86 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: on the research I've done on Kirk Cobain and what 87 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: I know his personality to be. I don't know that 88 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: he would be into Dave grow in Food Fighters. I 89 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: don't think anybody knows. One thing I do think I 90 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: know about Kirk Cobain is that he was an entirely 91 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: unpredictable Of all these artists that I mentioned, I think 92 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: that Kurt Cobain, similarly to John Lennon, had he lived, 93 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: I think the Kurt would be most surprising comparatively to 94 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: their peers. To Kirk Cobain and John Lennon's peers, both 95 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: of these artists were fiercely independent, both were a true iconoclast, 96 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: both were extremely hypocritical, and both were wildly impulsive. I 97 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: don't know what to think about Kurt's life or music 98 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: had he survived himself, except that whatever I think, Kurt 99 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: probably would have done something different. He was rare in 100 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: that way. Again, like John Lennon, You're going to hear 101 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: a lot about Kirk Comain in the coming days. The 102 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: British newspaper of the British tabloid, I should say, The 103 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: Daily Mail just this week published a so called peer 104 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: reviewed report on Kirk Comain's death that supposedly refutes the 105 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: suicide cause of death and argues that the evidence surrounding 106 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: Kurt's suicide suppose a suicide. As they would put it, 107 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: they'd say, this report says that the evidence supports a 108 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: staged suicide, that it wasn't suicide, that it was in 109 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: fact homicide. Now why this report was published, I have 110 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: no idea. I can't even understand why the Daily Mail 111 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: and others like Newsweek are covering this report It's researchers 112 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: Brian Burnett and Michelle Wilkins, among others. This report their report, 113 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: I should say it was sent to us back in 114 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: December through what appears to be a publicist posing as 115 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: a rando. I'm not exactly sure we here at Double 116 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Elvis examined the report. I didn't do it personally. Matt 117 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: Boden did much to his credit. The details in this 118 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: report are they're just they're they're I don't even I 119 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: can't even find the word for it. They're tough, I'll 120 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: put it that way. Visuals, it's not just text. It's awful. 121 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: So anyways, again, I didn't look at it, but Matt 122 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: looked at it, and I trust Matt completely. And Matt 123 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: concluded that the information that this report provides does not 124 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: disrupt what the King County Medical Examiner ruled back in 125 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four that Kirk Cobn's death was the result 126 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: of suicide from a fatal gunshot to the head and 127 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: the report the original report. The King County report also 128 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: noted the suicide note and the high level of heroin 129 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: in Kirk Kobein's system. But even without this report, if 130 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: one carefully reads the Daily Mail or the Newsweek articles 131 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: about the new report. You can discern pretty quickly that 132 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: the evidence that these researchers lay out is flimsy at best. 133 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Now it's all wrapped up in the trappings in the 134 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: look and feel of an official report, a quote unquote 135 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: peer reviewed report. The report cites the positioning of Cobain's body, 136 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: claiming that it was staged to look like a suicide. 137 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: The report sites the fact that Kobaine had a receipt 138 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: for bullets in his pocket as proof of this staging. 139 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: This makes no sense. The report also cites a condition 140 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: of Kobaine's works, what he used to shoot, his drugs, 141 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: and the capped needles, and the toxicology report that indicates 142 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: the state of Kurt's body from heroin use. And there's 143 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: a whole lot more in here, but none of it 144 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: holds up this conspiracy theory that Kurt was killed, that 145 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: he didn't commit suicide, that Kurt was murdered. Okay, the 146 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: researchers here, the authors of this report, They do not 147 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: claim knowledge of who might have killed Kurt Kobain, But 148 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: we all know what the conspiracy theory is. It's that 149 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: his wife at the time Courtney Love had him killed, 150 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: and this conspiracy theory, it reminds me a lot of 151 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: the Lady Gaga illuminati theory. It just will not go away. 152 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: It just will not die again. You want to hear 153 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: that Gaga conspiracy theory, all the conspiracy theories related to 154 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga, including that she had her her friendly and 155 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: Morgana killed and stole her whole musical identity. You can 156 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: listen to less two episodes of Disgrace and a couple 157 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: episodes back now in the eight years of making Disgraceland. 158 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: The group of music fans that I've pissed off the 159 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: most are the ones who believe that Kurt was murdered 160 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: by Courtney. But I am I was gonna say I'm sorry. 161 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sorry. The evidence just isn't there. If it was, 162 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, I would be the first to shout it out. 163 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: I am not afraid of digging into conspiracy theories. There 164 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: are no sacred cows. I'll look into anything, and I'm 165 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: gonna tell you straight up if the evidence supports it. 166 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: I'll even admit when I was wrong about things, and 167 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: I have been wrong, as we all are. None of 168 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: us are perfect. 169 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: And I'm not. 170 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: Afraid to say so. Listen, if I believe Courtney Love 171 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: had anything to do with the death of Kurt Cobaine, 172 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: I would not only say so, just to be honest, 173 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: it would make my job way more interesting. Not that 174 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: it's not interesting already, but you get the point. But 175 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: in defense of the Kurt and Courtney conspiracy theorists, there 176 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: are some facts that don't make sense, like the handwriting 177 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: on the suicide note, But if I put some thought 178 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: into it, I can quickly come up with numerous explanations. 179 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: So no, Kurt wasn't murdered, despite what this new report says. He, 180 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: like Jimmy Hendrix and Mark Lanagan and Chris Cornell and 181 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: Lane Staley and me as Apata, was just one of 182 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 1: many Seattle rock stars who died too young. Speaking to 183 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: Curt and Courtney. There's a Courtney Love documentary that's coming 184 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: out this year, I believe, although there's no date of 185 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: release yet that I can find. I'm very excited to 186 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: see this. I believe it debuted at Sun Dance, and 187 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: apparently Courtney addresses all of these batshit crazy conspiracy theories, 188 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: which I gotta say is pretty impressive. Zeth and I 189 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: are going to address these theories more fully in the 190 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: exclusive section of this after party. We're going to dive 191 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: into what the conspiracy theorists think, what they say. I'm 192 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: going to straw man this argument a bit, and I'm 193 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: gonna I've talked to Zeth about this in advance, and 194 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: I want him to come to the table and to 195 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: defend the point of view of the conspiracy theorist. Now, 196 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: as much as I don't believe in the conspiracy theories here, 197 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: as I've indicated just now, there is some compelling evidence, okay, 198 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into the note. We're gonna get 199 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: a little bit into l Duce and some other elements 200 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: to sort of break this down. And who knows, maybe 201 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: you'll learn something, maybe I'll learn something, all right, I 202 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see anyways. That's in the exclusive section 203 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: of this after party coming up. Go to Disgrace slamdpod 204 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: dot com to sign up for five bucks a month 205 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: grab this exclusive content in ad free content as well. 206 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: All right, again, speaking of artists shooting themselves. Next week 207 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: in Disgrace sand We've got a treat for you. We 208 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: are releasing into the wide feed for everybody to hear 209 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: our previously exclusive episode on Hunter S. Thompson, now not 210 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: a musician, but definitely a rock star in his own right, 211 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: and an artist that I know has a lot of 212 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: crossover in the world of rock and roll into the 213 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: world of music history and with music fans and counterculture fans. 214 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: This is gonna be the last last time we do this, 215 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: I think that being released an episode on a non 216 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: musician in the Disgrace Sland Feed. We produced this Hunter S. 217 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: Thompson episode a year or so ago, mainly because we're 218 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: massive fans and we wanted to apply our storytelling to 219 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: our research on this incredible writer and cultural figure. So 220 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: that episode is coming next week. And when you're listening 221 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: to the Hunter S. Thompson episode and Disgrace Sammy, thinking 222 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: about who your favorite writers are. Is it Hunter Thompson? 223 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: Is it, I don't know, Charles Bukowski is it William S. Burrows? 224 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: Is it? 225 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: Someone more modern? Is it, I don't know, Harlan Coben. 226 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: I can go on and on, and there's a million 227 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,239 Speaker 1: great writers out there. When you're listening to this Hunter episode, 228 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: be thinking about who your favorite writers are and get 229 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: at me with your recommendations. I'm particularly interested in autobiographies 230 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: by musicians that you guys have read. I mentioned Mark 231 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: Lanigan before his autobiography Sing Backwards and Wheat. It's a 232 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: great example of what I'm talking about. Lots of you 233 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: guys recommended this book to me, and it led to 234 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: us creating the Mark Lannigan episode of Disgraceland. Now, whatever 235 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: musician biograph he's you're into, let me know, recommend him 236 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: to me. Recommend to me in honor of Hunter S. Thompson, 237 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: any other writers in general that that are just kind 238 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: of like rock and roll writers that whatever, they don't 239 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: have to be rock any writers at all that I 240 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: know that's broad, but I'm always looking for new new recommendations. 241 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: Hit me up six p one seven nine oh six 242 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: six sixty three eight voicemail and text to let me 243 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: know now. Coincidentally, Hunter S. Thompson's death was recently reinvestigated 244 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: years after he died, and uh a good year after 245 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: we produced our previously exclusive episode. So we're going to 246 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: get into this recent probe and next week's after party 247 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: as a follow up to our Hunter episode. All right, 248 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: back to this week coming up tomorrow right after this 249 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: episode in the rewind slot our episode on You Got 250 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: It Lane Staley, and then, like I said, we hit 251 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: you next week with Hunter S. Thompson. I'll be back 252 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: after this with your voicemails, texts and emails, where we're 253 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: going to discuss, among other things, your thoughts on musicians who, 254 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: like me as a Potter, were taken too soon, the 255 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: ones that impacted you the most. We're also going to 256 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: be discussing your childhood music experiences. We dipped into that 257 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: last week in the exclusive section of the after Party. 258 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: Lots of you guys responded, a lot of you on Patreon. 259 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: We're going to get into that as well. We'll be 260 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: back right after this, all right, guys, six one seven 261 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. You want to 262 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: send me a voicemail, you want to leave me a text, 263 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: you want to connect in any way about the question 264 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: of the week, or just anything in general. That's how 265 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: you do it. Six one seven nine oh six six 266 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: six three eight. We asked a questquestion last week. We 267 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: asked the question this week in relation to me as 268 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: a pod of which artists that impacted you were taken 269 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: too young. Let's chick in with the three three four. 270 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: Hello, mister Jake, it's Mahali. I've been featured on Hollywood 271 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: Land with mister Death a few times, but hoping this 272 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: might be the first time on Disgraceland calling in response 273 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: to the question about artists who died before they got 274 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: their due. Trying to keep this as short as possible, 275 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: but I've got. 276 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: Three for you. 277 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: Number one for my generation, which is anyone who's an 278 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: eighties baby grew up on this group and others like it. 279 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: Sublime and Bradley Noell, that guy, he was gone before 280 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: what we now know as Sublime became what it is. 281 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: Number two would be Otis Redding. He passed away right 282 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: before his hit Sitting on the Dock of the Bay 283 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: came out. And I think the biggest one overall from 284 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: all of my life and probably in general when it 285 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: comes to music as an American, with the Richie Ballens. Dude, 286 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: he wasn't even eighteen years old, he wasn't even a 287 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: full grown adult, and you know gone, And today, seventy 288 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: plus years later, la bamba and his name, his music 289 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 3: still still it searched and widely widely loved around the world. 290 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: So I think above all of the others that I 291 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: know of, Richie Bellens has to be the top one 292 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: who was gone before he got his due. He never 293 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: even got to see adulthood, much less the impact that 294 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: he had in this musical world. Thank you again, Rock Rolla. 295 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: Love what you guys do, and I'm looking for forward 296 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: to some more scripted episodes. 297 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: Take it easy, guys, three three four, great call, Thanks 298 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: for reaching out. Happy to get you on Disgrace in 299 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: here for the first time. Thanks for checking out Hollywood Land. 300 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Yeah, some great choices here. Sublime Bradley Knowle, 301 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: really interesting. What a grave voice that guy had, just incredible. 302 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: Would have been awesome to hear. How how he would 303 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: have matured as a singer and a musician. You also 304 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: mentioned Otis Redding. That's a big one. That's a huge one. 305 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, what would the trajectory of Otis Redding have been? 306 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: What do you have sort of like blasted through the 307 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: rest of the sixties and the seventies and just kind 308 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: of well, he did he died. He died in nineteen seventy. 309 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: Hold on, I gotta figure this out. Nope, nineteen sixty seven. 310 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: What do you just kind of blasted through those years 311 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: and spun out in a way that a lot of 312 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: the sort of R and B and soul singers did, 313 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: even some of the bigger ones like James Brown, or 314 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: perhaps would he have cemented himself as a true kind 315 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: of legacy artist like Ray Charles or Aretha Franklin and 316 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: have just kind of ascended into this the sort of 317 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: upper echelon of musicians from his day. I think probably 318 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: the latter. I think it would have been the Aretha Franklin. 319 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: Ray Charles wrote. You also mentioned Richie Vallens, and thank 320 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: you for reminding me. We still haven't produced a Richie 321 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: Allens episode or Buddy Hally or The Day of the 322 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Music Died. I've never been able to figure out, like, 323 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: do I want to do it about all of them? 324 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: You know, all this comes up in the Wayland Jennings episode. 325 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: I want do I want to do it about all 326 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: of them? Or do I want to do it about 327 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: each of them? I think I want to do it 328 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: about each of them because I'm I'm just at least 329 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to Buddy Holly and it comes to Richievillens, 330 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm just completely interested in both of them as musicians. 331 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: I think it would it would be limiting to do 332 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: one story on all three artists, including the big bopper 333 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: in here as well. I saw Lebamba in the theaters 334 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: as a kid when it came out, and it just 335 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: blew me away everything about it. The performances were incredible. God, 336 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: I can still remember the fascination I had with that 337 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: stratocaster that is featured in the film. But I think 338 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: the reason that that movie has stayed with me for 339 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: so long is those songs. Those Richie Allen songs are 340 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: just undeniable. They're incredible. Great call three three four, appreciate you. 341 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: Let's check this recommendation from the three to one seven. 342 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 4: Jake Man, you really have to do an episode on 343 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 4: the Crayonberries and Delores. You were asking about the best 344 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: Irish punk band everything. It is easily the crean Berries. 345 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: I'm not as super fan, but Delores was magical. Her 346 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 4: voice was nominated as one of the best voices ever. 347 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: So please, please, if you. 348 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 4: Have it in your heart, I think it's a great story. 349 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 4: Her death is tragic, but please let's look up the Crayonberries. 350 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 1: All right, three one seven, You've got it. We've got 351 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: an episode on Dolores from the Cranberry is coming sometime soon. 352 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't know when, but this is one of those 353 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: like to me as a pot of that gets this 354 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: is one of those subjects that just keeps getting recommended 355 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: to me. I've been hesitant to get into it just 356 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: because it's so damn sad. Maybe I can convince Zeth 357 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: to write this one. So I don't know that my 358 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: headn't it. We shall see, but yes, we're gonna get 359 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: to Dolores three one seven. Appreciate you see guys, text, call, 360 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: leave a voicemail, and you know your recommendations, they'll they'll 361 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: turn into granted wishes. Okay. Now, one of the other 362 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: questions we were talking about last week, or one of 363 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: the other topics I should say we were discussing, was 364 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: the crazy childhood experiences we had with live music, crazy 365 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: live music experiences we had as teenagers. A lot of 366 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: that stemming back to the nineties because that's when a 367 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: lot of us were, you know, out there getting after 368 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: it for the first time, but can be from any era. 369 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: We talked a lot about this in the exclusive section 370 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: of last week's after Party, Zeth and I. Let's dip 371 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: into this voicemail from the on this topic. 372 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: Hey, Jake, I love the show. I just wanted to 373 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 5: be able to say that, like craziest concerts and best 374 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 5: concerts ever been to. First time I saw the Roots 375 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 5: as a little hip hop kid in early nineties, seeing 376 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 5: all of those live music performances doing hip hop was 377 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 5: mind blowing. So The Roots were definitely the best live 378 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 5: show I saw. But the craziest was growing up in 379 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: the town where like was real life Footloose. That's where 380 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 5: Footloose was filmed in Utah, seeing like Rage against the 381 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 5: Machine come in September of ninety six, and having all 382 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 5: of the religious folks like telling their telling their parents, 383 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 5: don't let your kids go businesses shuttered up town like 384 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 5: this little farm town and a rodeo ground, and having 385 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 5: Rage against the Machine come there. No real issues happened 386 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 5: at the concert itself. It was a really good show, 387 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 5: pretty crazy, but awesome to see. Like the real life 388 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 5: situation of religion being terrified of rock and music was 389 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 5: pretty awesome. So it might be something you want to 390 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 5: check out. Just Rage Against the Machine Spanish Fork, Utah 391 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 5: in like September of ninety six. 392 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: Love the show, rock and Roll eight to one. Thanks 393 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: for the call. Appreciate you, man, I wish I saw 394 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: the Roots back in the day. I never saw them. 395 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: I'd love to see them now. I guess I did 396 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: share a stage at a festival when I brought Disgraceland 397 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: to the stage in San Francisco with Black thought that 398 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Rage against the Machine in 399 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: ninety six, So you would have caught them in that 400 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: tiny little town you're from. I guess at at kind 401 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: of their peak ninety six, I'm pretty sure they were. 402 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: They were on Malla Blues at that point, are just 403 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: about to be. I'd seen them a little bit early earlier. 404 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: I saw them in I think ninety two or ninety three. 405 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: I definitely saw their first Boston show in a tiny 406 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: club the Ica and South End, and I saw them. 407 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: Where else did I see Rage? I think yeah. I 408 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: definitely saw them at Avalon when it was called Avalon, 409 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: saw them on On All the Blues as well. Vastly 410 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: different experience in Boston than it was in your footloose town. 411 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: But hey, at least you got that crazy experience. Let's 412 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: do one more voicemail, this one from the two. 413 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: To oh one Jake, Jeff two one. 414 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 6: I just want to say I finally caught up. I've 415 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 6: been listening to your podcast for I guess close to 416 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 6: a year, but I started at the beginning, so now 417 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 6: like I'm all caught up, and I'm pretty happy about that. 418 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 6: To address your current question, which rock stars or figures 419 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 6: in rock and roll fizzled out or or or died 420 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 6: way too young right on the precipice of success, I 421 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 6: would say that it's tied between two, both having happened 422 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 6: in the late nineties. I would have to say Shannon 423 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 6: Hoone with Blind Mellon was kind of hurtful. 424 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: I thought their music was terrific. 425 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 6: They were just about to blow up. They were highly 426 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 6: successful at Woodstock and again, you know, drugs, And I 427 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 6: would say that after that, it was probably Brad Newell 428 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 6: from Sublime, same thing. They had a seminal album that 429 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 6: was absolutely phenomenal and groundbreaking, and I guess he celebrated 430 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 6: a little too art. 431 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: And and died. But those two affected me, I don't know, 432 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: for some reason. 433 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 6: They both had a certain vulnert, both the singers had 434 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 6: a certain vulnerabilitated. 435 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: To them that it was really kind of sad. 436 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 6: You know, it's really a shame because I think if 437 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 6: both of them had lived, their bands would have been 438 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 6: wildly successful, probably Sublime more so than Blind Melon, but 439 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 6: I kind of think they both would have wildly crazy success, 440 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 6: and it's really as a shame. Love the show and 441 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 6: I'll look forward to talking to you again. 442 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jeff, Thanks so much for the call. I 443 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: hear you man both there is a similarity team Shannon 444 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Shannon Huon from Blind Melon and Brad from Sublime. That 445 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: and that that tie, the vulnerability tie that you mentioned. 446 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: I think I think you're honest something there. I think 447 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: it's I think it's a big part of it's subtle, 448 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: but it's there and their persona, and I also think, 449 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: perhaps more importantly, it's it's part of what attracted music 450 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: listeners to them. It's part of what made them relatable 451 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: as rock stars. And I also agree with you that 452 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: I think of the two, I think I don't know 453 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: if I think that that Sublime and Brad Bradley know 454 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: would have had a more successful career, but at least 455 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: it would have been I think it's one that I'm 456 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: more interested in having seen progress. And again, I just 457 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: think that guy was a really really great singer. Not 458 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: a great singer, but just had a great voice, and 459 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: it would have been super cool to just hear what 460 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: became of that, especially because the scene he came from, 461 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: that southern California kind of punk scene. Just kind of 462 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: a compelling dude. Appreciate the call. Thanks for calin. Glad 463 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: you're all caught up with Disgraceland. It's a lot of episodes. 464 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: Six one seven, nine, six six six three eight. Voicemail 465 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: text four one six Jason rights in, Hey, I submitted 466 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: my Iced Tea Montreal encounter through the portal plus two codas. 467 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: Sorry so long. I could shorten it, but then it 468 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: would only be an anecdote. Feel free to edit if 469 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: you use it. Thanks for making this interactive rock and rolla. 470 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: Jason in the four to one six is a Patreon subscriber, 471 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: and Jason I know had some weird run in with 472 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: iced Tea as a teenager, I believe, and he teased 473 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: it out on Patreon, said it was it was too 474 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: rough and rowdy to share there, and he was gonna 475 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: hit me up six one seven nine oh sixty six 476 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: six three eight, and he hit me up. But now 477 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: it's looking like I guess, he said. He sent it 478 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: through the portal plus two codas. This is a long tease, Jason, 479 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: I imagine you talking about emailing you and check that out, 480 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: Lauren Griffin writes in through the email portal, I guess 481 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm in the email portal, Jason. I can't find anything, dude. Anyways, 482 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: Lauren here writes, Hey Jake, my name is Lauren and 483 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: I started listening to Disgrace And in November twenty twenty 484 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: four when I was living in Vancouver, Canada. Since then, 485 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: I have traveled the world, back home to Ireland and 486 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: even got an engaged Congratulations Lauren on your engagement. That's 487 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: pretty awesome, Lauren goes hones say. I'm so happy to 488 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: say I finally caught up and I'm finally up to 489 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: speed with the latest episodes. You were my most listened 490 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: to podcasts last year. It'll probably be the most listened 491 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: to this year. Or maybe it'll be Hollywood Land because 492 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm moving on to that next Anyways, just wanted to say, 493 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing in Hello from the Emerald 494 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: Island Love Lauren ps. My fiance lived in Boston for 495 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: a year and is obsessed with the place that it's 496 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: sports teams. He loves the New England Patriots and is 497 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: staying up until four am tonight tomorrow to watch the 498 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Go Pats. Lauren appreciate this, Thanks for the 499 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: message all the way from Ireland. Happy you're a listener. 500 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: Happy you're engaged as well. Enjoy the engagement, Enjoy the nuptials. 501 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: Hit us back, let us know how it went. And hey, 502 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: you know I you know I've I've officiated some weddings 503 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: in my day. Just throwing that out there for you, Lauren. 504 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Six one seven nine oh 505 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: six six six three eight voice on text. You guys 506 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: want to get at me about anything at all, you 507 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: can also hit me up on Patreon. We're gonna get 508 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: into some of your some of your responses on Patreon 509 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: regarding your childhood experiences with live music. Will also hit 510 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: up some reviews. 511 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 4: And I have. 512 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: Got a big pile of crow to eat regarding my 513 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: new England Patriots coming up right after this. I don't 514 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: know if you heard that. I just I just spilt 515 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: water all over my desk, wiping it off with the 516 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: sleeve of my flannel shirt right now. This is the 517 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: second spilled water of the d Also have myself a 518 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: flat tire this morning, so I'm dealing with that it's 519 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: been a morning, guys, it's been a morning. But you 520 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: know what, I don't care. I'm grateful. I got nothing 521 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: but gratitude because this here is the greatest music community 522 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: on the Internet and off the internet, if I do 523 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: say so myself. Now, some of you may know, or 524 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: all of you may know, I'm not sure that we 525 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: offer exclusive content to our all access members, like the 526 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: all access section of this after party, whereas thatth and 527 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: I will be discussing Kirk Cobean's suicide and the theory 528 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: that he was murdered, and we're gonna poke some holes 529 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: in that theory. But last week we were talking about 530 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: wild concerts from our childhood that was brought on by 531 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: our coverage of Jane's addiction. Got a ton of comments 532 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: on Patreon on this topic, and that's that's the best 533 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: part about Patreon, guys, is the community aspect of it. Okay, 534 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: if you've been on the about joining Patreon, I'm not 535 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: gonna make this some big sell. I'm just gonna tell you. 536 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: I love engaging with the listeners over there. It's the 537 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: best getting to know you guys. I love how you 538 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: guys engage with each other. That's pretty incredible. There's talk 539 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: circulating about a meetup this year for all of us. 540 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: Not sure what we're gonna do or where, but I 541 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: love that, and I just love that we've got this 542 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: community over there and right now. The topic of discussion 543 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: is all of your wild experiences as kids with live 544 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: music back in the nineties, some of the eighties, some 545 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: of the seventies. Roxane am write's craziest experience in a word, 546 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: guar Okay, I get it. I get that, Roxanne, I 547 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: get it. Kimberly Harris writes, got dragged to a Kiss 548 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: concert one of maybe three people at this whole show, 549 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: my friend three people. I don't think she means three people, 550 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: she says. My friend Kelly had been part of Kiss 551 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: Nation since she was four. I did move when spewed 552 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: blood on by Gene, and I definitely moved. I went 553 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: backstage to meet them, and Kelly and her sister lost it. 554 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: Half naked and naked women everywhere, and I am the 555 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: only black person all caps, So I definitely was out 556 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: of my element in the music in the crowd. But 557 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: the band was super nice, and I was asked by 558 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 1: Gene Simmons playfully how the hell it was that I 559 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: was at this concert let alone backstage, and my response 560 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: was that I was dragged along for a girl's night out. 561 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: I had a good time, but my friend Kelly and 562 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: her sister had to be pulled together repeatedly. Kelly's sister 563 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: did get her all right, I'm getting into that party. 564 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: Thank Kimberly's got the best stories. Appreciate you. Becky Johnson. Right, Hey, 565 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: I did get kicked in the face at a Rollins 566 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: band show. I learned quick that if I was standing 567 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: in front of the stage to grab the stage driver 568 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: by the ankles and help them over my face. Were 569 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: you even alive in the nineties if you were not 570 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: kicked in the face with a combat boot at a 571 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: Henry Rowlands show? At a Rollins ban show, Jason Ramsey 572 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: teases out his iced tea experience. Still looking for that 573 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: email through the portal, Jason, I'll report back once I 574 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: get it. Guys, get on the Patreon chat. You don't 575 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: need to sign up for five bucks be part of 576 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: the t You can sign up for a dollar to 577 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: be part of the chat. Okay, just the buck and 578 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: you get access to the Disgraceline community to get over there. 579 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: Get in on that action, and if you can't support financially, 580 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: we get it. You can always support by leaving a review. 581 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: Oftentimes I will read some of the reviews back here 582 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: to you guys on the show, and when I do, 583 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: that's a signal to you to get in touch six 584 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: one seven nine oh sixty sixty six three eight voicemail 585 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: in text and let me know that you heard your review. 586 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: And at that point I will ask you a couple 587 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: questions and I'll get you some merch as a nice 588 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: little thank you. It's a nice little token of my appreciation. 589 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Now I can't I can't say exactly what that merch 590 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: might be, but I'm looking at some stickers here on 591 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: my desk and some pins. I've got some shirts. I 592 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of stuff that was just on earthed. 593 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: I know I was supposed to mail this stuff out 594 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: last week. I did not do that. I ended up 595 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: going to New England for the Super Bowl, and I 596 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: am I am delayed. What can I say, I'm having 597 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm having myself a little bit of 598 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: a day here. I had a couple of water and 599 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: coffee malfunctions, and I got a I got a flat 600 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: tire and waiting on a tow truck. Come by my house, 601 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: pick up my car, bring it to the dealership. But 602 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: I will get merch out shortly to the winners. If 603 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: you yourself want to be a winner, I encourage you 604 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: to go to Apple Podcasts or to Spotify and to 605 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: leave a review for Disgracelane. It helps with discovery of 606 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: the show and we are super appreciative of it. Disgraceful. M. 607 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: Smith nine five seventy nine on Apple podcast Rights. Hey, 608 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: thanks for all the great content and stories. I'm really 609 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: appreciative of the music that I have been exposed to 610 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: because of your platform. I'll go to Apple Music and 611 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: look up artists that have been subject matter on the show. 612 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: I've gotten into more punk and hardcore and I've always 613 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: been a thrash medal guy and this just adds to 614 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: my life. Keep it coming. Thank you. M. Smith nine 615 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: five seven nine. I love that happy you're getting exposed 616 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: to new music because of Disgraceland. Check out me as 617 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: a pot in the gits if you have not already, 618 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: and X ten and xt in on Spotify Rights. I 619 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: just want to say how much I love this podcast. 620 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm such a music girl and as much as I 621 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: think I know about artists and their stories, you always 622 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: give me some cool new info. I love sharing with 623 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: my friends. Thank you, thank you, thank you. You know what. 624 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: That's what it's all about, getting this new information, new stories, 625 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: having something to talk about with our fellow music obsessives, 626 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: whether it's in the Patreon chat, whether it's at the barbecue, 627 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: whether it's at your next dinner party, whether it's wherever 628 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: you're standing on the side of the soccer field talking 629 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: to a mom or dad, and I don't know, maybe 630 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: they're wearing a Sublime shirt. You want to tell them 631 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: a little bit about your knowledge of Bradley Nole that 632 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: you heard here on Disgraceland. We like to say that 633 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: this is the podcast that'll make you dangerous at dinner parties. 634 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: I got to call this out. February thirteenth, that's this week. 635 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: That was the date back in twenty eighteen. However, February thirteenth, 636 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: twenty eighteenth, that we released our first ever episode of Disgraceland. 637 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: That means this podcast is eight years old this week, 638 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: eight years old. I cannot believe that I was talking 639 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: to somebody the podcast industry a couple of weeks ago. 640 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: And she referred to me as a veteran of the 641 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: podcast industry. A veteran. I didn't like it. To be 642 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: honest with you, I don't feel like a veteran. I mean, 643 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've been in this for that long. 644 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: Everything still feels new to me. Honestly, it all feels 645 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: like it's growing. I'm still finding ways to be inspired. 646 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm still finding stories that inspire me, that make them 647 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: want to crack the books, get under the hood. I'm 648 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: Zeth Matt myself. We're still we're still totally compelled to 649 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: find unique ways to tell these stories, to to do 650 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: so with audio, to do so with music, scoring, with 651 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: sound design, and the more of you that come into 652 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: the space that are new, the more of you that 653 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: may be listening and decide, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna 654 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: get involved with the disgrace and community with the discos. 655 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna just you know, I just gonna 656 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: go in there and share, share a little bit about myself, 657 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: ask some questions on the Patreon or on Instagram or wherever. 658 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: The more that happens, it just it's fuel, and it 659 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: makes everything feel fresh and new and itsiting, and it's 660 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: the greatest job in the world. I was born to 661 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: do this. So is thatth So is Matt. They're both 662 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: uniquely talented to bring something special and incredible to Disgrace 663 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: and to what we do here, to the storytelling. And 664 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: it is a new year and we've got some awesome 665 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: stuff in the works for you in twenty twenty six, 666 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: really going to push everything further than we ever have 667 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: before creatively. You're gonna be very excited, I promise you. 668 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: Just wanted to say thank you to all you listeners. 669 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: Eight years. I can't believe it. I don't even know 670 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: how many episodes we have eight years. That's crazy. We 671 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: got to be around two hundred and sixty episodes at 672 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: this point. Anyways, much love, much gratitude, Thank you very much. 673 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Stop by Patreon, say hello or just give 674 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: me a call six one seven nine oh six six 675 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: six three eight, say what's up? Send me a voicemail. Listen. 676 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: I gotta eat some crow here, all right. I got 677 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: to look, I had all the shit talk in my 678 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: mouth last week when it came to the Patriots, not 679 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots, the patriots in the Seattle Seahawks. My goodness, man, 680 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: that game kicked my ass. Kick the Patriots ass. Actually, 681 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: if I'm being for being for being real about it, So, Matt, 682 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: before I go any further, let's get this ready. Okay, 683 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: this is the sixty second sports rant in under thirty 684 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: seconds sponsored by Five Hour Energy in the return of 685 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: their confetti craze flavor Bring back Birthday Energy. Wherever you 686 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: go with this plan your confetti Craze party at www 687 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: dot five hour Energy dot com or Amazon available now, Matt, 688 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: give me that buzzer. Look, I gotta, I gotta just say, 689 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks fans, congratulations. Patriots haters, go f yourself. We will 690 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: be back. You know what, I can't even go to 691 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: we'll be back yet. I just gotta. I gotta again. 692 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: I talked so much crap about this, I just have 693 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: to say congrats to the Seahawks fans. I was wrong. 694 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: I thought our coach and our quarterback would overcome what 695 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: was playing to me as a better team that was 696 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. But that did not happen. We got our 697 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: butts handed to us. We were outmanned, we were out played, 698 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: we were out coached. It was a supreme butt kicking, 699 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: and you know, what. I'm not ashamed to say it 700 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: because we've lost Super Bowls in the past. Here in 701 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: New England, we've probably lost more Super Bowls and a 702 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: lot of other franchises have even played in. We're up 703 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: to six losses now, okay, and I know we're also 704 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 1: six wins, so I know, I know, I know we'll 705 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: be back. I know we'll be back. And the Pats, 706 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: I believe maybe playing in Seattle next year. I think 707 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: the AFC East plays the NFC West next year. I 708 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: could be wrong. If that's the case, Shay Simpson, I 709 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: will see you out there and I will buy you 710 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: some drinks at whatever your stadium's called. I've always wanted 711 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: to go to that stadium. I always wanted to do. 712 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot as a handful of stadiums always wanted 713 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: to go to. That's one of them. So maybe next 714 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: year will be be the time. And to make up 715 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: to make up for my sports sins to my Seattle brethren, 716 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 1: specifically Yushe, who I talked some crap about here last week. 717 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: The beers around me, my man, all right, Matt, I 718 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: know there is no way in h e double hockey 719 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: sticks that we did that in under thirty seconds, So 720 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it right now. That was the 721 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: sports ran sponsored by Five Hour Energies Confetti Craze flavor 722 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: backed by popular demand, Confetti Craze tastes like the best 723 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: birthday cake ever with its rich, buttery and vanilla flavors. 724 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: Since Five Hour Energy shots are tiny and resealable, it's 725 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 1: easy to take that birthday everywhere you go. Planner Confetti 726 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: Craze Party at www dot five hour Energy dot com 727 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: or Amazon Available now. Guys, I gotta watch a movie today. 728 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: I gotta watch a movie today in preparation of our 729 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: new video podcast. This film should be played loud, which 730 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: is available for all Access members on Patreon only in 731 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: that movie that I am watching is Boogie Nights, because 732 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: that is the soundtrack Zeth and I are going to 733 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: get into in the next episode of this film should 734 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: be played loud, which you will all be able to 735 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: watch via Patreon. Go to disgracelandpod dot com to sign up. 736 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: Not only we get this film should be played loud, 737 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: you'll get all those hollywood Land and Disgraceland episodes add free. 738 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: Speaking of Hollywoodland, Ze's bringing you to the Hollywood Land vibes weekly. 739 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe to hollywood Land and the hollywood 740 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: Land podcast feed. We'll be back right after this. All right, 741 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: As we mentioned a ton of Disgraceland subjects in this episode, Sublime, 742 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: Lane Staley, Otis Writing, Jimmy Hendrix, Nirvana, Chris Cornell. Matt 743 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: will grab the episode notes for a handful of these 744 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: episodes drop them the show notes of this after priority 745 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: to help you more easily navigate to those stories should 746 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: you want to find them amongst our super vast library 747 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: of content. But alas, it is time for me to go, 748 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: so I'm about to take off, But let's recap real quick. 749 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: Number one this week, our new episode on Miazapata and 750 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: the Gits is available for you right now. Our rewind 751 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: episode that's on Lane's Daily from Allison Chains, that's coming 752 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: up right after this after party. Number three. Next week 753 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: a new episode on Hunter S. Thompson. Number four is 754 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: that's going to give you those Hollywood and crime vibes 755 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: over in the hollywood Land podcast, so make sure you're subscribed. 756 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: Number five, This film should be played loud. That's our 757 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: new video podcast. We've got a new episode on train 758 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: Spotting that's up right now. We'll get another one on 759 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: good Fellas, and we're in the process of making a 760 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: third on Boogie Nights, coming your way at the end 761 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: of this month. Number six, six one seven nine oh 762 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 1: six six six three eight. Your voice keeps us digging 763 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: into the dark corners and music history. So keep calling, 764 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: keep texting with your answers to this week's question of 765 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: the week, or with whatever else you want to talk about. 766 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 1: Number seven. Don't forget this goes. This isn't just content. 767 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: It's a community, a community of the obsessed, and no 768 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime. 769 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: It ties them all together, like you do. And well 770 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: that's a disgrace, all right me as a pot of 771 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: the gets passed away. On July seventh, nineteen ninety three. 772 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: Here's what America was listening to on that day, according 773 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: to the Billboard Charts. Number one week by s WV 774 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: last week two, peak position one weeks on Chart twelve. 775 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: Number two. That's the Way Love Goes by Janet Jackson 776 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: last week one, peak position one weeks on Charts eleven. 777 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 1: Physician number three. There it is tag teams number last 778 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: week four, the peak position three weeks on chart number 779 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: four can help falling in love from sliving should be 780 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: for last week seven peak position, four weeks on chart nines. 781 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: Number five knock into boots, stage down last Sea position 782 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: researcher jus quit talking and start mixing could