WEBVTT - The Giant Tree-ster Eggs Of Petrified Forest

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<v Speaker 1>If we were to hop into a time machine and

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<v Speaker 1>travel back to the year two million b C. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say things wouldn't go well for us. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a time when the food chain was dominated by crocodiles

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<v Speaker 1>the size of our r V, when salamander like creatures

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<v Speaker 1>were the size of Great Danes, and when modern day

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona was a veritable Jurassic Park of dinosaurs and jungles.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine it's basically visiting East Laublar in Jurassic Park, but

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<v Speaker 1>instead of having Jeff Goldbloom's Pippie comic relief, it's pure

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<v Speaker 1>terror and there's no Doctor Grant or Laura Dern to

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<v Speaker 1>save you. Do I get to meet like Chris Pratt,

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<v Speaker 1>Because if I get to meet Chris Pratt, then I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I'm jumping into the wrong Jurassic Park. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know barely the same franchise I know. Fortunately, Arizona is

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<v Speaker 1>much safer in when your biggest risk is getting a sunburn. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but part of the prehistoric era has been fossilized and preserved,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna enjoy that today. On park Landia, as

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about Petrified Forest National Park, I'm Matt, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Brad we sold our loft in Chicago and gave up

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<v Speaker 1>our city dwelling existence to live in an RV and

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<v Speaker 1>travel the country full time. Thus, to us in dog Finn,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening. The most notable aspect of this prehistoric

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<v Speaker 1>time period is the ambiance of crystallized logs that give

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<v Speaker 1>Petrified National Park its name. A trip to this park

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<v Speaker 1>and out of the way destination in sleepy northeastern Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>reveals a glimpse into the wild past more so than

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<v Speaker 1>any other national park. I mean, it feels like a

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<v Speaker 1>figurative time travel through this fossilized world. Yeah, that's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I think is important to point out for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone coming here expecting some sort of forest, which is fair. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you really shouldn't expect anything tropical or jungle like. This

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the year anymore fortunate Nowadays there really isn't anything

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<v Speaker 1>foresty whatsoever. And honestly, the only green thing you're likely

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<v Speaker 1>to see here is my cactus phone case. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell everyone your phone case's name. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>cactus Jack is the name of my phone case? And

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<v Speaker 1>what name? I named it? After? A Mexican restaurant chain

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<v Speaker 1>that I remember seeing in New Hampshire growing up. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was beyond that, and I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to remember eating there, but apparently it left

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<v Speaker 1>enough of an impact that of now named my phone

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<v Speaker 1>case after it. Yeah, I guess you should probably get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the landscape though. Let's cut Yeah, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>back the landscape here. Petrified Forest is almost eerily quiet, really,

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<v Speaker 1>with not not many animals aside from the occasional crow,

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<v Speaker 1>which kind of fits this arid, barren landscape. But in

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<v Speaker 1>spite of its name, which sounds rather lush, Pretrified Forest

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<v Speaker 1>is a desert with mostly just sandstone and these gigantic

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<v Speaker 1>fallen logs that have been transformed over time into shimmering crystals.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not to suggest that it's all just dystopian and arid, though,

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<v Speaker 1>this this landscape is really rich with natural beauty and

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<v Speaker 1>of course plenty of Instagram opportunities. Yes, all those Instagram opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the pictures that we got here are probably

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<v Speaker 1>some of my favorite from the beautiful Yeah, they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a hauntingly beautiful area and it really comes out

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<v Speaker 1>well in photos. You don't really need to use filters

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram for that hashtag no filter. Yeah exactly. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to dinosaur fossils and petroglyss left behind by

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<v Speaker 1>native people who used to live here, Petrified Forest is

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately a well preserved look at these mighty trees that

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<v Speaker 1>once thrived in this region when this part of Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>was a tropical terrain. Now these trees have long since

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<v Speaker 1>fallen um mostly due to raging rivers that toppled them

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimately wound up burying them in volcanic ash and

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<v Speaker 1>silt and thus fossilizing them over the course of hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of millions of years. I mean, they really are the

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<v Speaker 1>stars of the show here at the Petrified Forest. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the most densest concentration of logs seen

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<v Speaker 1>in the places like the Painted Desert, the Rainbow Forest,

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<v Speaker 1>the Giant Forest. All of us get their names from

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<v Speaker 1>how massive and colorful these logs are today. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the Old Faithful for instance, not to be confused with

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<v Speaker 1>yellow stones. Main attraction is a looming giant log in

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<v Speaker 1>the Giant Forest. I mean it's as wide as a bus. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's huge. I mean we should really just throw it back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean way back to how these logs came to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're really better at describing that. Yeah, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you the Betty Crocker recipe version of

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<v Speaker 1>how petrified logs are formed. Um So, when these trees

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<v Speaker 1>fell and became buried in sediment and ash, that essentially

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<v Speaker 1>cuts off oxygen in the wood. Uh yeah, no more oxygen.

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<v Speaker 1>So eventually water will seep in and when it makes

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<v Speaker 1>us with the sediment, it forms silica in the ash

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<v Speaker 1>and begins this slow, long, drawn out process of transforming

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<v Speaker 1>the original tissue in the wood into rock. And along

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<v Speaker 1>the way, the silica turns into quartz and it gets

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<v Speaker 1>its colors based on various mineral content from things like

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<v Speaker 1>chromium and iron and carbon. And so fast forward a

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<v Speaker 1>couple hundred million years and that settlement is removed by

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<v Speaker 1>wind and these locks are now exposed as glistening, essentially

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<v Speaker 1>giant gems with colors like purple, green, blue. Basically, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a desert filled with these gigantic easter egg looking logs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that process that lead the petrified forest. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's a lengthy and elaborate recipe from other nature,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you mentioned, I know, the results may sound

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<v Speaker 1>like they're stale or hard as rock, but they're beautifully

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<v Speaker 1>breathtaking and it's unlike anything else I've seen on Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've again been well traveled, so it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things like it's just it's so beautiful. How this

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<v Speaker 1>park contains some of the most concentrated collections of petrified woods,

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<v Speaker 1>which people end up trying to steal, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>not okay, yeah, leave them be. Um. More so than

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<v Speaker 1>most parks, Petrified forests, for better or worse, is known

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<v Speaker 1>as kind of a drive through park. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't spend a ton of time here um, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of unfortunate because there's a lot to see,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's understandable. That's mostly due to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the park is not very huge to begin with. But

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<v Speaker 1>then it's bisected by this main park road and there

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<v Speaker 1>are two entrances, one on the north end, one on

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<v Speaker 1>the south end, and then you have this main park

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<v Speaker 1>road that goes right through it, with a few little

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<v Speaker 1>trails here and they're off that go off that road. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the kind of positive side of that, it

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<v Speaker 1>is refreshingly straightforward and it makes it very easy to

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<v Speaker 1>navigate this park with very clear markers denoting hiking trails,

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<v Speaker 1>historic sites, and viewpoints along the way. It's compared to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other parks that are like yellow Stone

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<v Speaker 1>or Yosemite, which have like kind of a dizzying array

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<v Speaker 1>of entry points and it's a little overwhelming. So especially

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<v Speaker 1>for newbies who are visiting for the first time, Petrified

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<v Speaker 1>Forest is very doable and very welcoming in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of it's not as intimidating. I found that

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<v Speaker 1>very refreshing trails. One of the musty stops for me

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<v Speaker 1>was the Blue Masa Trail. I mean, as easy as

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<v Speaker 1>the name is. It was located off the Blue Maza Road.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, didn't we say it was pretty straightforward, very straightforward.

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<v Speaker 1>You know exactly where you're going with the Blue Maza Road,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one's located right in the middle of the park.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the trail is an easy, like one mile loop,

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<v Speaker 1>but within a short distance it really packs a punch.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the whole thing is paved, so starting out

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<v Speaker 1>along the Mesa ridge with sweeping views of the surrounding desert,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you quickly get transformed in this trail and

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<v Speaker 1>you get to weave down into some colorful blad lands.

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<v Speaker 1>It's lit with tints of purples and blues, hence the name.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, right like a name. Yeah. I mean once

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<v Speaker 1>we reach the bottom, the trail loops through a forest

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<v Speaker 1>of petrified logs, many of them the size of boulders.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, between the colors of the bad lands and

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<v Speaker 1>the petrified wood, this trail is as colorful as the

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas strip. I mean, no neon signs though, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no casino, just as colorful, just as colorful. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a great place to, you know, get a

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<v Speaker 1>work call, which Matt did not like. Um, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you're helping guide and run a business, sometimes you have

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<v Speaker 1>to take those phone calls right in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a trail, right pabe Yeah. I mean one another pro

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<v Speaker 1>of this trail is it's a great trail for passive

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively storming away. Um. It's nice and flat, great for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, I mean when you're not doing that, when

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<v Speaker 1>or not being annoyed. Uh, it's just a great stroll

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<v Speaker 1>to take photos and enjoy the starting scenery. And the

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<v Speaker 1>best part for us, what we loved the most was

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<v Speaker 1>being able to take our dog Finn. Yeah, Finn, he's

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<v Speaker 1>so amazing. I mean, watching Finny run is like watching

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<v Speaker 1>a t Rex on forefront arms, like, yeah, pretty much,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much, so cute, so fun. And Finn he's a

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<v Speaker 1>he's a mini dogs and so he's he's not at

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<v Speaker 1>his fattest. He was thirteen pounds and it is right now,

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<v Speaker 1>he's about thirteen pounds. He's just a small, brown haired,

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<v Speaker 1>short haired minni docks in and he is our best

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<v Speaker 1>friend and our companion, and you know, whenever I'm feeling emotional,

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<v Speaker 1>he's always there for me. And Finn is really more

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<v Speaker 1>than just our dog. He's our friend and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we really enjoy going to these national parks with him

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<v Speaker 1>and bringing him whenever. Really cool. But if there's bears

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<v Speaker 1>out there at Gators, we definitely stay away from Now

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<v Speaker 1>he stays in the air v But yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really great to be able to experience stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>this with him. And not all national parks are, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, very dog friendly. Petrified Forest really is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most dog friendly parks in the system,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's cool to be able to take him out

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<v Speaker 1>with us and let him enjoy the scenery along with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a great trail for him. The length

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<v Speaker 1>was ideal, it wasn't too long, not much elevation change,

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<v Speaker 1>so we could easily do it without getting too tired.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you could tell he was equally as obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with a petrified wood as we were. Just beautiful things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>luckily he didn't be on them. Oh yeah no. And

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<v Speaker 1>for you, this wasn't your first time hiking the Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no no, this is my second time petrified forest,

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<v Speaker 1>and in particular, second time hiking the Blue Masa Trail.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can definitively say that this trail is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>within my top three favorite hiking trails of any national park,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a huge statement but well deserved, especially because

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<v Speaker 1>you love like te hike. Yeah, you're a small time

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<v Speaker 1>hiker like for me, this would be perfect for me

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<v Speaker 1>to name one of my top three. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of surprising because I tend to like really

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<v Speaker 1>hardcore trails and I do long, drawn out hikes. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done them in so many different national parks, so this one,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it really indicates how amazing this short little

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<v Speaker 1>trail is. It's just so stunning from every vantage point,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of place that when I'm hiking here alone,

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<v Speaker 1>like I did on my first trip here, it's I

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<v Speaker 1>can't help say things aloud to myself, just totally al

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh jeez, and can you believe this view?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, he talks to himself more often

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<v Speaker 1>than he would like to admit, Like I'll catch him

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<v Speaker 1>talking to himself out loud and I'll be like, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything. I'm like, yes, Well, the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm muttering or I think I'm whispering under

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<v Speaker 1>my breath or something, but I guess I just I

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<v Speaker 1>whisper much louder than I think I do. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been. That's what I spent my whole time

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<v Speaker 1>the Blue Wings of Trail doing, um, which is you

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<v Speaker 1>can't help it. It's just so breathtaking like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, and and despite the fact that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with this trail, you should know that Petrified Forest

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<v Speaker 1>is not really known as like a hiking mecca. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of hiking trails here. There are really

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<v Speaker 1>only seven official trails, and none of them are longer

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<v Speaker 1>than three miles in length, which it makes it a

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<v Speaker 1>very family friendly park. Very family friendly, nothing to store anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for those road trips, you know, through the country

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<v Speaker 1>when you aren't those RVs. Yeah, exactly. And it's it

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<v Speaker 1>also makes sense why it's a drive through kind of

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<v Speaker 1>park because people can easily just meander through it, hop

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<v Speaker 1>off to a quick little trail here and there, and

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<v Speaker 1>continue on your way. And that's awesome. That's a great thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it makes it possible to do all pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>all the parks trails in one visit, in one afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>and these trails do a great job of getting you

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<v Speaker 1>up close and personal with some of the most on

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<v Speaker 1>spiring petrified specimens and historic sites. You are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the park Landed podcast from my Heart Radio, hosted by

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<v Speaker 1>Brad and Matt carrollac. We'll be back with more of

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<v Speaker 1>the Parklandia podcast from my heart Radio. I'm Matt and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brad. You were listening to the park Landed podcast

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<v Speaker 1>from my heart Radio. Man, or you tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 1>One highlight is the Giant Logs Trail. Like, isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>located right behind the Rainbow Forest Museum. Yeah? Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>Giant Logs Trail, as the the name is definitely kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an eyecatcher. It just sounds so larger than life,

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<v Speaker 1>incredible like it is. And yeah, it starts right behind

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<v Speaker 1>the Rainbow Forest Museum, which is absolutely worth a visit

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<v Speaker 1>as well for learning all about the dinosaur history here

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<v Speaker 1>in fossils Um. But the Giant Logs Trail has some

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<v Speaker 1>of the largest petrified logs anywhere on Earth, including Old Faithful,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're just it's mind blowing how massive these things were.

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<v Speaker 1>And to imagine what these things must have been like

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<v Speaker 1>when they were standing. They must have been the size

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<v Speaker 1>of like Sekoia trees or something. And now they're glistening

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<v Speaker 1>like gems pretty much, and that's amazing. But then something

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<v Speaker 1>for something completely different. There's the Puerco Pueblo Trail, also

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<v Speaker 1>an easy trail, it's only about point three miles round trip.

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<v Speaker 1>In this highlights another very important aspect of the park,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the history and ancient civilizations that once lived here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's really hard to imagine living in such

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<v Speaker 1>a seemingly barren landscape. I mean, yeah, I know nowadays

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine even like doing backcountry camping here. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how that would even work, but I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not. Some two thousand years ago or so,

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<v Speaker 1>whole communities used to thrive here and there. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are I can back it up. There are hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of sites throughout the park with evidence um of these

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<v Speaker 1>ancient civilizations, some of which left behind petroglyphs and village

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<v Speaker 1>ruins that you can tour and look at marble apt

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<v Speaker 1>and you said, wuere will play blow where cool? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of it's tricky to say, where go Pueblo.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of have to stay in slow motion to

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<v Speaker 1>get it right, especially for me. I'm horrible in their

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<v Speaker 1>own pronunciations. So you don't oh, you don't say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're funny. Yes, that is it. It's just one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best places to witness history. I mean thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>like wealth preserved structures. Back then, hundreds of people lived

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<v Speaker 1>in the window loss and doorless web blows concentrated by

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<v Speaker 1>water sources. Ladder serves as their entry point, so no windows,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going down, yes, through a ladder. And these dwellings

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<v Speaker 1>were situated right around these central plazas, which were community

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<v Speaker 1>spaces for socializing and gathering. Yes, it's like rocky kind

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<v Speaker 1>of clay huts, no windows, no doors, um, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously water is everything. You have to concentrate your living

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<v Speaker 1>accommodations by that. Yes, we learned that in Mace of Verdane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we did, but we'll talk about that later. UM

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<v Speaker 1>quick side note UM relating to Puerco Pueblow. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I was here the first time, This was when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little solo trip Um. I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>cautioning cautionary sign by the trailhead warning about dangerous bees

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<v Speaker 1>in the area, and I remember thinking, what a missed

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity it was not to say, be where the E

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<v Speaker 1>W A R E, Like, how many times in life

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have the opportunity to spell that out and

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't use it? Is very punny. Yeah, it was shocking. Um. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see any dangerous bees, so it all worked out. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Not far from Puerko play Blow is newspaper rock. Um

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<v Speaker 1>just down the street or down the main road, would say,

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<v Speaker 1>just a stone throw away, A stone throw from Puerko

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<v Speaker 1>play Blow. It's the This is definitely the best site

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<v Speaker 1>for viewing Petrick lifts in the park. There's such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge concentration of them here there. I think, honestly, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like more than six hundred or so petri lifts. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And the amazing thing about petro lifts really anywhere you

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<v Speaker 1>see them, but particularly here in such a large amount,

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<v Speaker 1>they provide a mysteria is and fascinating little peak into

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<v Speaker 1>the past and what life must have been like for

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<v Speaker 1>this civilization. Now you're gonna have to tell me more

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<v Speaker 1>about this because when we went through I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>get to go and see this, which I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bummed out. But you know, the future is still possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and petroglyphs will be there in the future. Um. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're I'm obsessed with petroglyphs. They're so interesting. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>these ones in particular, UM. The National Park Service and

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<v Speaker 1>archaeologists have reached out to descendants of of people from

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<v Speaker 1>the Navajo Zuni Hopie people's to examine these petriclyphs and

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<v Speaker 1>see if they could translate any of them. Um. They

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<v Speaker 1>only recognize a few of them, so they're not able

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<v Speaker 1>to piece together what the meanings really were, what they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to communicate. We can only guess really, were

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<v Speaker 1>they making symbols of spirituality? Where they stories? Where they warnings?

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<v Speaker 1>Were these prehistoric emojis? The world may never know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the original emojis. Oh man, maybe these uh will be

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<v Speaker 1>found when we discover why the ancestral pueblo from masa

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<v Speaker 1>Verde National Park left the city. Um, they built their

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<v Speaker 1>cities in the mountains and they vanished. But again, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to stay tuned for a future episode. Yes, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>let's stay back to mark. I am so so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's yeah put a pain and that fine? Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about these ancient civilizations that abandoned the area

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<v Speaker 1>for reasons unknown, much like mesa Verde and they I add.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, modern day people UM sought it out for

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<v Speaker 1>new reasons tourism I mean, after the train tracks were

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<v Speaker 1>laid through northeastern Arizona, local and national advocates sought to

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<v Speaker 1>capitalize on the area's unique geography by using the rails

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in tourists and to see that painted desert

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Root sixty six directly passes through the present

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<v Speaker 1>day park as well, making it the only national park

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<v Speaker 1>that contains a section of that historic highway. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>as with so many other things in the modern day,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a matter of seeing an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>make money, so they did in naturally, hotels and roadside

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<v Speaker 1>ends began to pop up around the area, including UM

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<v Speaker 1>something called the Painted Desert in which is within still

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<v Speaker 1>within the national park. It's now no longer an end,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a museum without lodging and UM. Of course, this

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<v Speaker 1>increased tourism and travelers um to the area brought its

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<v Speaker 1>own set of problems. In the case of petrified forests,

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<v Speaker 1>this meant people were talkting smaller pieces of petrified wood

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the souvenirs or I don't know, like colorful

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<v Speaker 1>paper weights or something. UM And of course, considering the

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<v Speaker 1>limitations of this geographic marvel, this is appalling. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to talk about the curse of the

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<v Speaker 1>Petrified Forest folklore. We're talking about Petrified Forest National Park

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<v Speaker 1>this week, and we're starting to get into something a

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<v Speaker 1>little ominous. Yes, we are going to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>curse of the Petrified Forest. You know, the one referenced

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<v Speaker 1>in Netflix show Dead to me about Yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 1>that show about how Steve damn you Steve. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>there was this dialogue between Steve and UM, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the stars, Linda Cardilini. Um. Apparently Steve stole petrified wood

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<v Speaker 1>from Petrified Forest National Park and guess what handed up

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<v Speaker 1>dead in a swimming pool? Oops, spoiler alert just like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not be like Steve. No, let's not be like Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>And sorry, bet you didn't think you'd be hearing about

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<v Speaker 1>dead to me spoilers on this podcast. But that's just

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<v Speaker 1>because clearly Netflix producers love the Petrified forests as much

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<v Speaker 1>as we do. And you know, this curse is serious stuff, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very serious stuff. Thankfully we have park champions like John

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<v Speaker 1>Ware and Theodore Roosevelt to thank for protecting the petrified

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<v Speaker 1>wood for future generations and from future Steve's um so.

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<v Speaker 1>John Ware was the first to conduct a scientific excavation

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<v Speaker 1>of the landscape here and he worked with Roosevelt to

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<v Speaker 1>formally protect it, and ultimately than they did give him

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<v Speaker 1>Petrified Forest as National monument status before it eventually got

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<v Speaker 1>upgraded to a National park in the year nineteen sixty two,

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<v Speaker 1>and today about eight hundred thousand annual visitors come to

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<v Speaker 1>Petrod Forests to look rather than take, unless you want

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<v Speaker 1>to end up floating face down in that pool, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, with a half define which is also

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<v Speaker 1>horrible because in twos and inten Congress allotted funds. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand tents, so not that long ago. Congress

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<v Speaker 1>allotted funds for parking expansion, which essentially did double Petrified

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<v Speaker 1>Forest protected land. Um. Currently, the National Park Services working

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<v Speaker 1>in developing new regions which will open up potentially new trails,

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<v Speaker 1>more to explore, more to discuss or so really it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like the park is only going to get better

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<v Speaker 1>and better in the future, which is super exciting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this park was really easy to navigate with the r V,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to leave at night because it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the few parks with gates that close and lock

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<v Speaker 1>every night so people don't steal the petrified wood and

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<v Speaker 1>become cursed, you know. Like Steve, you're listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>park Landia podcast in my Heart Radio, hosted by Brad

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and Matt Carrouac. We'll be back with more of the

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<v Speaker 1>park Landia podcast from my heart Radio My favorite Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>time for one of my favorite segments, Matt, what was

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite thing to do at Petrified Forest National Park? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite thing I feel like the obvious one of

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<v Speaker 1>the blue mas at because that's just amazing and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with it. But I will I want to also

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<v Speaker 1>highlight the Rainbow Forest Museum. I think it's incredible, an

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<v Speaker 1>immersive and just very cool to see and learn more

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<v Speaker 1>about the dinosaurs and precaus or canials that used to

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<v Speaker 1>live here. When I was in the museum the first time, um,

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<v Speaker 1>there was this large mural, an installation that showed depicted

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<v Speaker 1>like the animals that were once here and what life

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<v Speaker 1>was like some two million years ago. And let me

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<v Speaker 1>just say, it look terrifying. I'm really thankful that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not still like that. Um, but it just it's insane

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<v Speaker 1>and incredible, and I just don't it's mind blowing to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how this landscape can utterly change and transform like that,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's been a couple hundred million years. Um. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And well, we're like those three like essential items for

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you because you've been here a couple of times, you

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<v Speaker 1>might be better than mine, but you never know. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been here a couple of times. UM. So if

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<v Speaker 1>there were three things that I would personally bring to

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<v Speaker 1>pitch fight for us, I would bring sunscreen. It's very sunny,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's not super hot, it's very sunny, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're out in the wide open. There's no tree cover UM,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's important. I would also suggest layers like sweatshirts,

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<v Speaker 1>light jackets. Um. Again, the desert environment um can get

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>surprisingly chilly. And then, like we mentioned earlier, Petrified Forests

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<v Speaker 1>just one of the most dog friendly parks really in

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<v Speaker 1>the National park system. So you got to bring a dog, leash,

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<v Speaker 1>bring your dog, let them enjoy the trails with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Which that leads into my favorite thing was being able

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<v Speaker 1>to bring Finny on the trails with us and get

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most glorious Instagram photos out there. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I had to remember three things is because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm nine percent of the time the driver, is we

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<v Speaker 1>would have to fuel up before going there. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I'd bring is my dog, Finning. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely bring water um, not only for ourselves but for

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Finning and our little like hiking dog bowl UM, so

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<v Speaker 1>that way Finney can get water around along the trail

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<v Speaker 1>and not get exhausted. UM. And we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this yesterday and I think pretty much touch our dream

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<v Speaker 1>vacation would be this larger, bigger than life root sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six American road trip UM, much like the one we're taking.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, bring friends or dogs and energy to recharge

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>in the space that you're visiting. I mean that that

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<v Speaker 1>is what the American dream really is, is to do

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing. And we're so thankful that we get

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<v Speaker 1>this opportunity um and support from the people around us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's so poetic and perfect too, that

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<v Speaker 1>route Route sixty six, this kind of quintessentially American thoroughfare,

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<v Speaker 1>happens to go right through Petrified Forest National Park And

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<v Speaker 1>really it doesn't get more all American than a National

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<v Speaker 1>park either. So it's so ideal and so perfect, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would be really a dream to do all overout

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six as this kind of Americana drive um, and

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<v Speaker 1>just the opportunity to be able to stop off and

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<v Speaker 1>Petrified Forests and do some hikes and learn about dinosaurs

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<v Speaker 1>and petrock lists. It's all. It's all wonderful, all very

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<v Speaker 1>doable and highly recommended. You've been listening to park Landia.

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