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This is Eyes up Here, 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: and you listening to it all new and watching an 27 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: all new Eyes up Here exclusively on Twitch as well 28 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: as our Patreon channel, as well as listening to this 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: on Creative Control. If you didn't know by now, my 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: name is Chad, and every single week I'm joined here 31 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: by the people, by the person you people all came 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: to see. It's the one and only Queen of Extreme Francy. Hello, Hello, 33 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: well everyone, I love when we do these live twitch thingies. 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: There's some fun live twitch thingy. That's a good way 35 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: to put it. I think that's a good way to 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: put it. I do too. This is your deal, and 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm starting to like it a lot. 38 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we can do it as many times 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: as you'd like. It's a it's always available and I 40 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: love Twitch and I love Eyes up Here, so it's 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: a perfect combination. Yes, you do. And speaking of Eyes 42 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: up Here, my eyes are focused on your ill. You 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: didn't know where I was going to go with that one, 44 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: but my eyes are focused on your teeth, eyes literally 45 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 1: up here. So last we left you, you were preparing 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: for this arduous task of putting braces in your mouth. 47 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: How are you feeling and how are you doing well? 48 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: They're in top row. You can see them. You can 49 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: also see right there. I know you'd skip, but I'm sorry. 50 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: I have to show it. Cotton. I had to put 51 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: cotton in my mouth because there is a I don't 52 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: know what it's called, but they when they took the 53 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: spacers out, they put these metal things around your teeth 54 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: in the back to keep the space open, I suppose, 55 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: and there's a gimmick at the top that turns with 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: a sharp point, and it literally cut my cheek wide open. 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: So I have a hole in my cheek and I 58 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: had to put the cotton to block it. Because they 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: didn't give me wax or anything. Everybody's like, oh, just 60 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: put wax. I don't have any wax. So we ordered 61 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: from Amazon these things, silicone things I think that you're 62 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: supposed to put over, but they don't come till tomorrow. 63 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: So I have cotton in my mouth. My bracket on 64 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: the front tooth came off, which is a rarity. It's 65 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: not these things are not supposed to move it your teeth. 66 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: I was brushing my teenis and I noticed it was 67 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: to the side, so I called my dentist office and 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: they were like, well, we can't see until June twelfth, 69 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: and I, excuse me, July twelfth, and I said perfect. 70 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: So I just moved it over and now I have 71 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: to wait ten days to go see my dentist. And 72 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: the pain is unfreaking believable. Now, what did you think 73 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: going through it when they were putting the braces on? 74 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: Were you listening? Were you like trying to zone out? 75 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: Like where were you at? Headspace? Wise? First of all, 76 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: they couldn't get the metal thing on this side, so 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: it's not there because of the two crowns. They had 78 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: such a problem. They try and their number, so it's like, 79 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: let's try sixteen. Oh, that's let's try seventeen to the eighteenth. 80 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: They went up to the twenties, the mid twenties, and 81 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: he's like, I can't do this, and I just looked 82 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: at him. I said, what are you going to do? 83 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: And he says, well, a month before you get your 84 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: bottom braces. We're just gonna have to do something and 85 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: we'll worry about it then. And I was just like, okay, 86 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: you know what am I supposed to say? Like he's 87 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: the dentist, I'm not. I don't know what's going on. 88 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: How how long did it take? It took about maybe 89 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: an hour the whole procedure. And and let me just 90 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: tell tell you something. I pray to God he doesn't 91 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: have corona because his nose was practically inside my mouth 92 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: the whole time. I mean they had to. I could 93 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: feel the breath, it was all over me. And I'm 94 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: just laying there like, please God, I do there's more 95 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: important things and like to worry about, but let this 96 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: guy not have corona and and let this be over quickly. 97 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: I just felt, you know, I felt trapped not to 98 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: inhale his So, yeah, it was a bit of a 99 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: traumatic experience. Did you watch anything while you were getting 100 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: this done? Like do they give you like a screen 101 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: to like his was like I couldn't watch anything, headphones, earbuds, nothing, No. 102 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: I had to listen. I wanted to know what the 103 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: hell was going on because they obviously things were not 104 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: going the way they were supposed to so, and then 105 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: they hand me this paper and it's like, you know, 106 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: here's what you can eat and what you can't eat. 107 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I came home. I couldn't eat 108 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: anything the teeth and and you know, it's almost a 109 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: week later. My teeth are so sore. They're just sore. 110 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: I feel. How do little children go through this without 111 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: like crying every day? I don't understand. That's why kids 112 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: get it when they have their mommy around, so they 113 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: could just go cry. Sit there, Well, you your mommy 114 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: actually if you wanted to. I know I did cry 115 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: to my mommy. She was like, how do you feel? 116 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't feel good. Yeah. So I mean 117 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: I think I have probably two years of this ahead 118 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: of me. And uh yeah, so get ready, eyes up here. 119 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna just hear me bitch and moan for like 120 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: two years and it's gonna be glorious. They're weird, like 121 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: I can't you know if my lip for truth, like 122 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: they're white, you can't really. I mean you could see them, 123 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: but it's not like the metal you can tell your mouth. 124 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: You can just you can tell in your mouth you 125 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: have them. But the way the screen sits. I mean, 126 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: I also have really shitty eyes, so I can't see 127 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: that well. But I can't tell looking at you. I 128 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: could see when your mouth is closed. Yeah, yeah, because 129 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: the lip has to go over them. Now, it's just 130 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: it sucks. It's unanimous in the chat, by the way, 131 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: ew and that nasty or reigning supreme either with me. 132 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: It's uh, yeah, it's not. You know, it wouldn't be 133 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: as bad if this thing didn't cause a hole in 134 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: my cheek, okay, because that's like what you know, years 135 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: and years of braces and they can't get a better system, 136 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Like they can't put like something silicone that's soft for 137 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: your mouth. No, they have to put this friggin metal 138 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: thing with a point that goes right into your cheek. 139 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Who does this? How about three printed braces? Maybe you 140 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: can barely even see them. They're like a foe. They're 141 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: not even like really there, they're just well there's the 142 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: invisible line. And those things are apparently, like, you know, 143 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: really good, but they're really expensive. I was going to 144 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: pay for them, but they said that as soon as 145 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: they looked at me, they said, you're not accounted it 146 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: for a visital house. Really, yeah, I think because my 147 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: overbite was bad, so I don't know. They just said 148 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: you need traditional braces and I said, can I get 149 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: the clear ones? And they said, well we have the 150 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: white ones and I said okay, and that's then He's like, well, 151 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: it's an extra five hundred dollars. I said, just put 152 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: it all my job to do a few more cameos 153 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: than have to pay for this for real. Wow, let's 154 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: take a moment just to welcome everybody in. I appreciate 155 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: y'all being here. I see some familiar faces, so I'm 156 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: happy to have everybody here on this lovely Friday morning. 157 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: And yeah, we'll be going back and forth from the 158 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: chat to see if you have any questions. But how's 159 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: your week been? Has anything special happened? Oh? Yeah, No, 160 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: absolutely a huge day for me. Yesterday I opened up 161 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: officially my IB Exclusives office, which you know, I mean, 162 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: is it operational as a retail business. No, It's an 163 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: office that I can now leave the home to do 164 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: my outside of my regular work business but have a 165 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: physical address and maybe be a little more appealing to 166 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: some vendors and some outside opportunities. But just a big deal. 167 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: I don't really think it's kind of sunk in yet 168 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: because I don't have anything in the office yet. I 169 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: brought a little end table and a roly cart and 170 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: that's all I have so far. But yeah, kind of surreals. 171 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: Just like literally after we were done recording last Friday, 172 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: I went and looked at it and then signed the 173 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: least yesterday and was in that fest. It really was 174 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: like kind of like an I said to the real 175 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: I was like, does it always go this quickly? And 176 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: she goes yeah, And I was like, oh, I guess 177 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm not special then sorry, well congratulations. I ever read 178 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: a certain do, I would have come in and do 179 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: a signing, you know, Oh dares you know me? I 180 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: lead with two extreme friends of mine all the time, 181 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: and I'm absolutely trying to work on something. Young's what 182 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: is this? Young's heard has to know? How would I 183 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: rate my week? Well, we all know I would rate 184 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: it as perfectly rated, perfectly right, Yeah, absolutely, And the 185 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: chat is congratulating you on your store. Troy purchased the 186 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: suitet item from your store. Actually right next to me, 187 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: it's getting packaged as we speak. Nice about that. Wow, 188 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: And everybody can go to the store. It's ivy exclusives 189 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm adding more products. But there's a really 190 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: sweet Francine and Shane Douglas duel sign eight by ten 191 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: and eleven by fourteen that on the last live stream, 192 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: I gave one away for free to the first person 193 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: who joined our Patreon. Now, if anybody wants to take 194 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: me up on that offer again, the address is right there. 195 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna beat over the head. If you 196 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: want to join, you come and join, and you'll you 197 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: might have a freebe Oh wow, that push pushed me 198 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: folks on there, and I can bring it up again 199 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: on the on the old computer. Well you can do 200 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: that in a bit. I'll do a bit. That's awesome 201 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: in here, scarface eight seventy Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to everybody. 202 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: This is great. Uh yeah, So congratulations on your store. 203 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: I wish you a ton of success. It's very exciting. Well, 204 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: it's just an office. This is just my office. But 205 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: sooner or later it will be operational. Where it's gonna be. 206 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a purchasing component to it at some point. 207 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: What I really want is to do signings in the 208 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: in the office and have you know, my my banners 209 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: and my backdrop is as a place for maybe local 210 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: talent or somebody that's close come in, do it and 211 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: off for photo ops. Folks. That's what it's all about. 212 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: But anybody who checks it out, I can't thank you enough. 213 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: I can. I can't show the thing here. If you 214 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: want to keep talking for a second, I'll bring it up. 215 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was going to say, where where do 216 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: we stand with with conventions? Now? Are we comfortable doing 217 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: these in store signings? Do you think the world is 218 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: is pretty much coming back to normal? I think so, yeah, 219 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: I do. And it seems like all the conventions and 220 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: signings that I've seen so far, even with guys that 221 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: I would say had been around a lot, are doing 222 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: really well because I think people are dying to get 223 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: out and get these pictures taken and get items signed. 224 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: And from what I've seen, it's it's it's really it's 225 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: been kind of overwhelming what the the in person signings 226 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: have been doing. You've been to one so far, right, So, yeah, 227 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: you know. I've been to one the Squared Circle where 228 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: I was told you're supposed to wear a mask, you're 229 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: supposed to social distance, and I was the only one 230 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: that did that. Everybody else did not have a mask on, 231 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, they were taking pictures. I'm reading about the 232 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: Delta variant, the new and it's like a coin flip, 233 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Like there are certain people saying, oh, it's going to 234 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: be even more deadly, and then the other ones are 235 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: putting up stats and it's like it's getting one percent 236 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: of the population. It's like, who do you listen to? 237 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, it's so it's so difficult. 238 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: I think now I'm comfortable going somewhere and not wearing 239 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: a mask to take the pictures, but I'm not comfortable 240 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: putting my arm around people and being that close, you know, 241 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: like I And that kills me because I'm a people 242 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: person and I love to welcome the fans and hug 243 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: the fans and say hello and be able to take 244 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: the nice picture. But I'm just, you know, because of 245 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: my mom, I am. I am so hesitant to get 246 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: super duper close to strangers anymore. I don't know how 247 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: long that's going to last for me, you know, And 248 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: it sucks because I want to get out there and 249 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: I want to do all this stuff, but I still 250 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: got that little bit of hesitant. How about all right, 251 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: can we negotiate. Can I negotiate with you? How about 252 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: still won't get close? But are we going to take 253 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: down the mask? Well, that's what I just said. I'm okay, 254 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: but officially yeah, yeah, I'm having the mask off because 255 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: people want to see our faces. I understand that one 256 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: hundred percent. I get it, but I don't want people 257 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: on top of me, and I feel like they shouldn't 258 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: want me on top of them. Well there's home. There's 259 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: a whole segment of people that would disagree with that 260 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: second statement that I Well, I'm just going to pop 261 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: this bad boy up here if you don't mind, If 262 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: anybody wants to see the picture it is. That's beautiful. 263 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a really cool custom print that I 264 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: had done up. It's signed by Bolt, Shane and Francine. 265 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: One of my favorite things to do with the perfect yellow, 266 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: perfectly rated yellow. And what I love. I love the 267 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: pictures of everybody signing him. Yes, Shane looks like a cowboy. 268 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: There you are and he looks like a cowboy. Yeah, 269 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: he's got his his song beyond a cowboy, yellow black 270 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: and yellow horse he rides. No. I think that's a 271 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: beautiful photo. I think it's great and uh, you know, 272 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: if anybody wants to sign up patreon dot com Forward 273 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: slash Transcene podcast, you might just get one sent to you. 274 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: So I'm feeling nice again. I really enjoy you know, 275 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: the patriot stuff and this well, you know, we're gonna 276 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: promote it again. Troy, who's been commenting, he's a part 277 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: of our Patreon. He's always talking about how much he 278 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: loves it. It's a good freaking time and I like 279 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: to reward it. And Christy as well. Christy as well, 280 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: he's in years comment things. Uh yeah really uh really cool. 281 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: So thanks thanks to everybody. But yeah, that's that was 282 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: my high point of the week. And my second high 283 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: point is, uh is being here today? That nice? Can 284 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: I can I just sing to Troy for a second. 285 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for the bits, my friend, Thank you for 286 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: the bits. Thank you for the bits, my friend, Thank 287 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: you for the bits. Oh and Christy, I have to 288 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: thank you for the bits, my friend. Thank you for 289 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: a bit sing with me, Thank you for my friend, 290 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for Troy and Christy, thank you so much 291 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: for the bits. Much appreciate it. You mind if I 292 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: ask you a question? One clean? Of course not so 293 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: we kind of were thinking about doing this show, you 294 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: know we do. Before we were thinking about going live, 295 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: we had another topic that everybody's been asking you about. 296 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just be the I'm gonna get the 297 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: elephant in the room out of the out of the way. 298 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: This Jeff Jarrett comment or or comments from his podcast. 299 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: We've kind of debunked it throughout the week, but please, 300 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, enlighten us as to what you 301 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: heard and now what has kind of come out of 302 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: this situation, just the backstory. It was the My World 303 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: podcast he reviewed the TNA first show. There are possibly 304 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: comments made about you and Shane having heat, thus why 305 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: Shane didn't come into TNA. You can take the rest 306 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: of the way. It was weird because you told me 307 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: about it initially. You brought it up, and it's like 308 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: telephone the game Telephone, you get passed down and then 309 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: once it goes to the last person, it's a completely 310 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: different story the way you told me what you mentioned 311 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: the SME thing, but you also mentioned that I had 312 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: a lot of heat with several different people and one 313 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: of them was Elektra. That was what I was told, 314 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: but that was never mentioned. It was just Shane. So 315 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm told. So I just messaged Conrad and I was 316 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: just like, hey, I didn't I didn't say that we 317 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: were going to discuss it on the podcast, but I said, 318 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to know about the heat that I had 319 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: with the whole locker room because I was not aware, 320 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: and can you enlighten me on the situation so I 321 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: know better? And it was basically, it wasn't the whole 322 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: locker room. It wasn't Electra. It was Shane, which we 323 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, we did have a falling out back in 324 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: the day, and I guess they said he wouldn't come 325 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: in because I was working there, but Shane denies that. 326 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: But here it wasn't Jeff. It was Dave Meltzer who 327 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: reported it. So take that as you will, because you know, 328 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't believe anything that 329 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: that man says. So and it really look how it 330 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: could start trouble. Now, I said to you from the start, 331 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: I've heard this second and third hand on my way 332 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: to telling you. But then since then people have tweeted 333 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: about it. There was comments in the one YouTube Budge 334 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: I was watching to try to get some information, but 335 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: that's the way it goes. It turns out it was 336 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: completely different outcome than what we had been told from 337 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: the start. Here's my whole tena journey in a nutshell. 338 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: Bob Rider contacts me. I signed for four events, four shows. 339 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: I do four shows. They tell me, we don't know 340 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: what to do with you anymore. And I accept it 341 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: because I knew initially I was coming in for four shows. 342 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: Now would I have liked to work there longer? Yes? 343 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: I did. Get along with all the girls that were there. 344 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: I loved the locker room, and the guys were great. 345 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem. I didn't. There wasn't any 346 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: heat I mean that I know of. No one approached 347 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: me with anything negative. Got along with everyone. I had 348 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: a good time working there. I was kind of hoping 349 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: that this would be like the second ECW locker room, 350 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, the type bond I was trying to form. 351 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: Friendships didn't work out, and I moved on and that 352 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: was that. And why are you laughing at me right now? 353 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm just laughing because in the comments, Mike Derband asked 354 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: a question, and it's I would I would put this 355 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: in the facetious category if I was. But that's why 356 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: I was laughing. What was it like working in ec W. 357 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: Mike Chad hates that question. I loved working in New CW. 358 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll ask about the WWEE CW next, Maybe that's next. Okay, 359 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: that's why I laughed so funny. But yeah, and that 360 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: was I have nothing to say, you know, negative about 361 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: the TNA experience. I was taken aback because when when 362 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: you had said elector, I was like, no, no, no, 363 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: we were friends. I don't get that now, the whole 364 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: Shane thing. And to be honest with you, I don't 365 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: even know what year it was when Shane and I 366 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: kind of I guess it was at his show when 367 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: we you know. But and it's funny because that night 368 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: he tells me, well, we'll talk later, and to this 369 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: day we never have. We never have talked about what 370 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: we were supposed to talk about a million years ago. 371 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: And thank you for the bit, my friend, thank you 372 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: for the bit truly, and Mike Durban, thank you for 373 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: the bit. But seriously, I told him the other day, 374 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: I said, we really should sit down and discuss the 375 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: heat that we I don't think he wants to. So 376 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: we're good. But we're good now. And can I be 377 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: a neutral moderator in between, just to be a fut please, 378 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: this would be a private conversation. But you know, I 379 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: hate dwelling on the past. Why I hear we're very 380 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: good friends now. I would hate for us to get 381 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: it into another stupid fight over something that happened a 382 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: million years ago. Yes, and he vehemently denied it that 383 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: there was any problem because if you look at your timeline, right, 384 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: he leaves in ninety nine. Okay, whatever happens between ninety nine, 385 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: this is O two. You guys reconcile and put whatever 386 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: behind you in two thousand and nine, six and five, 387 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: so that three years after this, you guys are shown 388 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: on camera seeing each other for the first time. That's 389 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: on freaking YouTube if anybody wants to watch it. And 390 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: that was so like the anxiety. I had so much 391 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: anxiety going into that weekend because it was like Shane 392 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: Show was on Friday, WWF was on or WWE whatever 393 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: they're called, that was on Sunday, and between the two shows, 394 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: my anxiety was like through the roof. So I was 395 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: very nervous. Well, they were like, oh, Jerry Bourn, you 396 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: have to walk into this room and see and talk 397 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: to Shane and I go all right, and he goes 398 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: and we're gonna tape it and I go no, and 399 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: he goes, no, we have to and I was like, 400 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is so awkward. It was very 401 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: very bizarre and awkward. And somebody might have thought it 402 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: was like, you know, this was all planned out. It wasn't. 403 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: That was the most organic part of the night pretty much. 404 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: That and the meet and greet afterwards with uh, you know, 405 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: with us together. But it was just really weird. Do 406 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: you do that a lot of like looking at the sky, 407 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, like trying not to address anything, you know. 408 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: I remember saying to him, is this going to be 409 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: like the Carry movie where I walk in and the 410 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: blood is just falling? And then I'm not going to 411 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: be on the show. And He's like no, no, no, 412 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: and he goes in. I think I go in for 413 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: a handshake, and Shane actually went in for the hug 414 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: so and I was like, oh, oh, we're doing okay. 415 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: That brings a tear. That brings a tear to my 416 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: eye every time. Yeah, I know, bring with a tear 417 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: in my eye. This is the greatest moment of my life. 418 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: That's the greatest moment ever was the reuniting of the 419 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: franchise of Francines. Troy wants to point out that the 420 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: Yankees and Mets play this weekend Subway series style. We 421 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: need to at least take two out of three from 422 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: the Yankees. So Troy, good luck and young Shire, thank 423 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: you for the bit, my friend, thank you for the bit. 424 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: E CW is underrated. What do you think perfectly rate 425 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: it underrated? ECW under come on? First of all, he's 426 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: got a point. A lot of people. We've talked about this, 427 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people they say ECW was an Indie fed, 428 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: a glorified Indie Fed, and I disagree with that. On yes, 429 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: I think due to its place in history and the 430 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: influence has had on the business then and now, there's 431 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: absolutely zero discussion of ECW being under or over that word, 432 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it. I would classify ECW 433 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: as being perfectly grated. I do feel sometimes we are underrated. 434 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: I feel sometimes ECW from uh, not so much from 435 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: a fans point of view, but from people who have 436 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: clout maybe in the business. They don't give us the 437 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: recognition we deserve as a company. Yes, that's because they're jelly. 438 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: That's why It's plain and simple. Think about the guys 439 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: that probably either could have reinvented look at three weeks 440 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: ago Luke and Butch, the Bushwhackers as the sheep Herders 441 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: and ECW in ninety nine could have been literally revolutionary 442 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: and gave them another dimension of their career. Didn't happen? 443 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: I bet Luke wishes it did well. Yeah, And I 444 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: was shocked to hear this story behind you because I 445 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: never heard why they only made two appearances with us. Yeah, 446 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: and to hear him say that, that's just makes me angry. 447 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: You know, God knows how many people that happened to. Yeah, 448 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: down the line, you know, one man gang's another one 449 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: one man gang was in for a few shots here 450 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: and there, but imagine a dominant, big, one man gang 451 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: in that point. Maybe did he have the ww F stigma? 452 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: Was it just that he's known as a cartoony guy. 453 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: He probably fit in really well with you guys. He's 454 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: a nice dude. Yeah, well we used him a lot 455 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: more than well then the Bushwhackers. Yeah yeah, but just 456 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, when you hear a story like that and 457 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: you've never heard that before, which just like because again 458 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: there was a revolving door. In ECW, people came in, 459 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: people went out. We were used to it. We had 460 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: our mainstays, but then we had talent coming in and out. 461 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: So when they came in, I never really thought that 462 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: they were going to be here for the long run. 463 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: And to hear Luke tell the story, it's just like, damn, 464 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: that could have worked, you know. So that makes me 465 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: sad because I really like him. I was, yeah, they 466 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: got I'm telling you when they came through the curtain 467 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: and those Dudley shirt they were instant heels. They got 468 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: over it on the first night. It would have been great. 469 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: So that makes me sad. But what can you do? 470 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: What can you do? What he got going on July 471 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: fourth weekend, I don't think anything. I'm going to be 472 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: cursing the people who light those freaking fireworks at eleven 473 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: o'clock because I'm going to be probably in bed trying 474 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: to sleep. But no, I don't think the weather's going 475 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: to be that great. I don't think we're doing much well, 476 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. I think you guys should be out there 477 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: shooting bottle rockets nine hundred feet in the air. I 478 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't know if it's legal where you 479 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: are for fireworks in Virginia, all you gotta do is 480 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: go to the store and there's a giant canopy tent 481 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: of fireworks sales. Yeah, I'm too afraid to do it. 482 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm the guy who I'm gonna light a firework. I'm 483 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: gonna blow my hand off, so I stay away. I 484 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: don't mind everybody else doing them. I prefer not past 485 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: a certain time in the night as well, But I'm 486 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: never gonna touch one because I are you way too partying? 487 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: Are you having a cookout? Or I would be partaking 488 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: in festivities? Yes, at some point, I don't know where exactly, 489 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: hopefully in the neighborhood. Looking to get a little something 490 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: together in the neighborhood, stay close to home, and then 491 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: do it up. As the kids say, I like your neighborhood. 492 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: Your neighborhood. There's always a party going on. It seems 493 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: like you're all like kind of the same age bracket. 494 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: There's running around my neighborhood, all old people, uh not 495 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: too many children. No one ever comes outside their house. 496 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: You don't see a soul. I mean, if you hate people, 497 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: you got to move near me, because you don't see 498 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: anyone around here. Honestly. And in the summertime, everybody has 499 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: a pool, so everybody's in their own backyard. No one 500 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: plays on the street, you know. I just I don't 501 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: like that. I like the way I grew up. There 502 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: were forty kids on the block. Everybody was sitting on 503 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: their porches. Yeah, windows open, you smelled the gravy. It 504 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: was just it was a good time. And it's not 505 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: like that around here, so it's a whole different world. 506 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: It goes up, down, arts goes up and down. Sometimes 507 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people around. Sometimes there's not the 508 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: thing about that there are a lot of kids in 509 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: the same age range. So it is nice where they 510 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: can just run off. But then, of course after two 511 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: seconds somebody falls, somebody's got an injury. You got to 512 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: pull them out. It's, you know, the usual thing. But 513 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: it is very good to be able to just step outside. 514 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: I hang out. You know. Sometimes it's hard and the 515 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: old people start to talk to you and you're trying 516 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: to just have fun. I would love it'd be nice. 517 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: I wish I would. I would just you know, I 518 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: know my two neighbors and the ones across the street 519 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: and everybody else. I have no clue who they are. 520 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: I wave and I walk, and you know, sometimes you 521 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: see an old guy mowing his lawn, doesn't even look up. 522 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm all right then, just keep walking, you know. But 523 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: I long for the days when there was always a 524 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: kid outside to play. You know, kids weren't glued to 525 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: their devices. It's just not like that anymore, and it 526 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: just sucks. How was your cooking stream yesterday? What did 527 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: you call so good? I have we ate probably half 528 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: of the tray, so I have some left there. And 529 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: it was great for me because it was soft enough 530 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: for me to chew. Yeah, and it was. It was 531 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: absolutely delicious. And I told everybody like, you guys can 532 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: make this. It's so easy. And I showed everybody's stuff. 533 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: I stepped out of there. Not hard at all. There's 534 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: shortcuts you can take if you don't want to, you know, 535 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: make your own gravey or sauce or it's just a 536 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: simple dish. And it was. It was good and it 537 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: was fun because instead of cooking by myself, I was 538 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: just chatting with you know, everybody on twitch and they 539 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: made it fun to cook. Has the a w live stream? Uh? Concluded? 540 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Are you doing you? Have you watched it? Are you 541 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: just still talking during it. I you know, I watched. 542 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: I made it a point to watch the girls because 543 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to see Vicky. I wanted to see what 544 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: they were going to do with Vicky. I didn't read anything, 545 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: but it looked like that rebel took a weird Yeah, 546 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: that's what I was going to ask. I was. I 547 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: said to the people in chat, like did she take 548 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: a weird bump or because she did something? And then 549 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: she did this slow out of the ring and she 550 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: laid right next to like her opponent. Yeah, And I'm like, Okay, 551 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: that's a no, no, you're not. Then I realized she's 552 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: she's got to be heard or it's a work. I 553 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: don't know, but I haven't seen anything that said she 554 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: was hurt, so I don't know what happened. I think 555 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: that I don't know if they're hiding things at this point, 556 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: but she looked like she got wrecked. And it's like 557 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: Wanzo one crutches legitimately a while ago, didn't she have 558 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: I think she's a back issue or something like she's 559 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: been she's had a lot of she's had issues, but 560 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: it's like the injuries on AW are like out of control. 561 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: Seems like every week, somebody's going down. I don't know. 562 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: Do you know Trent BURRETTA, No, he's actually our buddy, 563 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: Chris Pavon's old tag team partner. He's in AW he's 564 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: in the best Friends with Chuck Taylor and Orange Cassidy's involved. 565 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: He had to get neck fuse and surgery because he 566 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: took a band like pile driver. And it's like every 567 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: week these guys are going down. It's hard to watch. 568 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: It's scary. I mean, I you know, I do my 569 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: best to go back and forth from the chat over 570 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: to the to the show. But when you you know, 571 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: you have like a bunch of people asking you questions, 572 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to be rude and not answer them. 573 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: So for the girls, I just said, listen, guys, let's 574 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: just take you know, ten minutes and just why. I 575 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: just want to see this one match. And that's when 576 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: I noticed she went down. I was just like, oh, 577 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: that didn't look good, so hopefully she's okay. But you 578 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: don't want to see anyone get hurt, you know, It's 579 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: it's a little scary. And Troy, thank you for thank you, 580 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: thank you, Troy. I was just going to say that 581 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: I saw it pop it on my screen. Yeah. I 582 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: don't take notifications, so if I don't look at the chat. 583 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: See when I'm on Twitch, a gift comes up, if 584 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: someone subscribes, if someone gives bits, see all those little 585 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: little thingies, the little heart. Yeah, but it's not coming 586 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: up on the screen. So she dislocated her knee. Oh 587 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: damn okay, damn it. That sucks. That sucks. Yeah, she 588 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: did that slow crawl and I was like, something's wrong 589 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: with that girl for sure. So oh, I hope she 590 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: has a speedy recovery. That's you know, you come off 591 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: one injury and then boom, right away you get hurt again. 592 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: So you gotta be you gotta be careful. That's why 593 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: I always said to Shane, like, you know, he worked 594 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: injured forever, and I'm like, if you get hurt while 595 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: you're hurt, it's gonna make you double the time to recuperate, 596 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: you know. And He's just like, no, you gotta work, 597 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: you gotta get And I'm just but that was the 598 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: work ethic of ECW. We all worked injured. I think 599 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: Kenny omega Is is nursing some big injuries and they 600 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: can't take him off TV. He's got like seven championships now, 601 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: oh take the main guy off. Crazy, Yeah, just crazy. 602 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: It's a shame. I don't want anybody to get hurt. 603 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: Especially it's literally every weekend. Now they've gotten account on 604 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: Twitter called ae W botches. Have you seen AW botches? No? 605 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: I have not. You know why? Well AW is going 606 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: after them hard, trying to get them shut down. And 607 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: all they do is basically show like replayed like little 608 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: like two second clips or they'll you know, they'll show 609 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: you the botch And Tony Kahan has gone on his 610 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: own to try to get these pages taken down. He's 611 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: on a mission, a mission copyright flags and everything. Wow. Yeah, 612 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: you can't hide it. I mean, it happens. There's a 613 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: ton of stuff. We just we watched the match for 614 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: a watch along this week. That was crystal clear, picture perfect. 615 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: There wasn't a botch out to be found. But they 616 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: happen in matches and you can't say no, I mean 617 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: unless it was taped and you could literally cut it 618 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: out or you guys have to do it again. Can't 619 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: do anything about it. It's it's live, it's in front 620 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: of you. You can't hide those things, right, and it happens, 621 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: not you know, we're not perfect. Things go wrong, and 622 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: you know, when people mess up, it's unfortunate. But you know, 623 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: at least these guys aren't getting hurt. It's when it's 624 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: when a botch happens and then they break a let 625 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: or they you know, like you said, he had to 626 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: get next surgery or whatever. I mean, I'd rather see 627 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: somebody mess up and be able to stand up and 628 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: move on. Why do we have to make fun of 629 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: these flaws? These guys and girls are out there kind 630 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: of risking life and limb to entertain, and then you 631 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: get the haters that just come on and just throw 632 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: hate and make fun of people. And it's like, let 633 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: me see you try and do that. 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From 696 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: that show to January of this year, I hadn't seen 697 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: in a year and a half. But I was supposed 698 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: to be at that one. It was November, I think 699 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: November twenty nineteen. I can't remember, but still I from 700 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: what I heard, was very good. Yeah, I wasn't sure 701 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: if you, like ever had like I know you wouldn't 702 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: follow through, But like aspirations to be a worker, no, 703 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: I always wanted to do the creative stuff. I literally, 704 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,439 Speaker 1: anything I've ever wanted to do in wrestling I have. 705 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: I worked behind the scenes at WWE, in production, I've 706 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: worked producing stuff at independent shows. I've hosted things in 707 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: the ring. That's that's all I ever wanted. I'm not 708 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm not that skilled. I'm at I could be athletic. 709 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: I love game of baseball. I played baseball. I can 710 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: do that, but I just it's never been my thing, 711 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: even like, I never want to be a manager, never 712 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: want to do any of that. I just want to 713 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: be in the creative ent and produce. Would you if 714 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: the opportunity came up, would you be like a guest manager? Yeah, 715 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean I would do something like that for sure. 716 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: Why are we making a comeback? No? Maybe in your corner, 717 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: I've you know, I've recently had an epiphany. Oh I've 718 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: been It's been shot down by several people, but you know, 719 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: I ultimately make the decision. And I you know, I 720 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: was thinking maybe this should be my last year on 721 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: the road, and then I said to myself, well, Okay, 722 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to be fifty in February, believe it or not. Yeah, 723 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: and I feel like next year might be my Swansea. 724 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, like the fifty and Fabulous tour. Maybe 725 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: maybe that's my last year to be out there because 726 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm not out there that much, okay, especially because of 727 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: this whole coronavirus. You know, we we had a lot 728 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: of time to be home, but I realize, like everything 729 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: that's important to me is here and I'm not living 730 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: for the road. I don't like being away from the house. 731 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: And like I you know, I don't want to say 732 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: too much about this, and I'll make an announcement soon, 733 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: but I just got a project handed to me yesterday 734 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: that could be something really really good, and I was 735 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: talking to my husband about it, and it's it's five 736 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: days that I have to be gone, and I have 737 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: anxiety about it, and you know, he's like, well we 738 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: we can, you know, get somebody to come in and 739 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: help with your mom, and we could do this. We do, 740 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, do I really want to be going 741 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: that long? Like five days might not be a long 742 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: time to sum but for me being away from my 743 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: kids and not being able to help my mom, it's 744 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: a long time. And like a lot of these conventions, 745 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: you have to be away for four or five days. 746 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do it that 747 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 1: much anymore. And I know people are doing this into 748 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: their seventies. That's not going to be me. I don't 749 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: want to do that. So I'm thinking next year might 750 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: be it interesting. And I'm not saying I'm going to 751 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: shut down like this stuff because I'm yeah, I'm home 752 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: doing this. This is very convenient for me. Just the 753 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 1: traveling and like my kids crying when I'm gone, and 754 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: it just it makes me sad, like I don't I 755 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: just don't want to leave them anymore, you know, And 756 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I like the sound 757 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: of the fifty and fabulous fabulous Tour. Yeah, now what 758 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: about the what about the like all right, let's say 759 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: fifty and fabulous, that's gonna be my say goodbye to 760 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: the road. But what if you get a one off? 761 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: Like the one offs it's not happening. No, what if 762 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: it's like, hey it's wrestle cuhnn, or hey it's this 763 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: big Let me all right, let me ask you this. Okay, 764 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: fifty in Fabulous Tour. We're doing hypotheticals here, Okay, what 765 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: if you get a hey, I'm a promotion in England? 766 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: And I would love to bring you in for a 767 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: Q and A and a couple signings. It's X number 768 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: of dollars, but you're fifty one at this point. You 769 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: just don't know. I don't want to leave the States, okay, 770 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: I have no desire to even like do Canada, and 771 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: no offense to to our uh our fans overseas. I 772 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: love you, but I just I don't have it in me. 773 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't know. I'm really and it 774 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: could change next year. I mean, maybe something will happen 775 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: that'll change my mind. But if you had to ask 776 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: me today and I had to give like an answer, 777 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: I would say probably next year is like it for me. 778 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: All right, So that sounds good. Now I'm gonna throw 779 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 1: some some Kiss questions. You know. Kiss. They're a great band. 780 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: They travel all the time. Kiss has been on their 781 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: farewell tour for like five years, right, could we see? 782 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: It's also making twelve million dollars a piece, So you know, 783 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: if you want to throw that money my way, I'll 784 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: do it another extra year or two. Maybe. You know. 785 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: That's my favorite thing, is the farewell tours, like in 786 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: the music scene, where you really have to look through 787 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: like the fine print. So it's like the Kiss farewell tour, 788 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: but maybe it's the Kiss farewell tour with that lineup, 789 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: and now they bring out two more other guys to 790 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: be the other two members of Kiss, and now they 791 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: do the next set of farewell tours. That's like, I 792 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: always love looking through the fine print of a goodbye tour. 793 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I respect your decisions. I think that 794 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: that's wonderful of all about the family stuff. Yeah, I 795 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: think that's where I'm at. I mean, I just thought, 796 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: maybe next year, just do as much as I possibly can. 797 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know, it could change, 798 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: but right like today, that's where I'm at. And thank 799 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: you for my friends. Thank you for appreciate you. Yeah, 800 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I get exhausted quickly, I 801 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: get I miss them. I know people are like, oh, 802 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: it's a break, you know, take a break for me. 803 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: I like being home. I like being surrounded by my family. 804 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: It's a heartache for me to be away, and I 805 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: just can't When I'm there, I'm having fun, but I 806 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 1: can't wait to get home. I feel the same way 807 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: about you or about the situation, but different situations. I mean, 808 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 1: me anytime. And you know me, whenever I do something, 809 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: I am so freaking gone, yeah, same day, because I 810 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: don't care if I'm five hours away from home and 811 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: I got a drive, or in the case where I 812 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: was suck in Boston, I was making every effort to 813 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: get home the same day because I'm the same exact way. 814 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: My wedding song is Don't want to Miss a Thing 815 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: by Aerosmith. Picked it for a reason, folks, Yeah, for 816 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: a reason. Yeah. The kids grow too fast. It goes 817 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: by too quickly. I don't want to miss stuff, and 818 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just feel guiltful. I 819 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: feel guilty taking bookings and I know that sounds idiotic, 820 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: but to see my kids upset when I leave it 821 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: makes me feel bad, you know, And I don't like it. 822 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm just Are you a souvenir purchaser? 823 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: Do you buy them something from the area that you're 824 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: in it? Did they not care? I don't get to 825 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: go anywhere in the airport, you know, Hey, I was 826 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,479 Speaker 1: in I was in you know, uh, Nashville. Here's a guitar. No, 827 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: because every day we're buying stuff off of Amazon in 828 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: this house. Is that not like the greatest like uh, 829 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: you know, like joke of all time that everything now 830 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: is purchased off of Amazon. I look at my bank 831 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: account and it could be like seventeen consecutive purchases, it's all. 832 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: And you have to get the Amazon credit card. Oh, 833 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: haven't gotten that note? Oh it's five percent back on 834 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: all purchases. It's great because if you use Amazon a lot, 835 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: you need that credit card. We both have it. Me 836 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: and Helbs have our own credit card for our own 837 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: Amazon accounts. I'm always using Amazon. So the kids are 838 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: bullying me. They have enough shit in this house. They 839 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: help need anything else. They've actually gotten to the point where, 840 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the Amazon business is so crazy, like they 841 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,399 Speaker 1: do everything that I've actually stopped even purchasing stuff from 842 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: distributors because I'm getting it cheaper on Amazon. Oh okay, 843 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: Like the big thing with myself are Baseball's right, you 844 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: always need extra baseballs. Well through the distributor, you're still 845 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: getting them for like sixteen or seven teen dollars a piece, 846 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: and that's wholesale. Amazon had on sale for fourteen the 847 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: other day, So I'm like click, Oh, I just got 848 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: a giant delivery of Baseball's to my house because you 849 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: would have got five percent back on that purpose if 850 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: you want to have damn it. And then when you 851 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: go buy something else, they'll say, would you like to 852 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: apply your forty dollars blah blah blah, And it's like, oh, yeah, 853 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: then you pick like two dollars and thirty two cents 854 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: for things because you have all these points. It's great 855 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: as a damn good point. Yeah it is. But yeah, 856 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. So that's where I'm at. But this 857 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: coming month that we're in I don't have anything. But 858 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: then in August on three weekends in a row. Oh, 859 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: really interesting. Oh yes, I'll be seeing you in August. 860 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: I'll be seeing you. Can we talk about that first? Yeah? 861 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know if they formally 862 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: announced it out in the world. I announced it here. 863 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: I had no clue what I'm doing. Who's going to 864 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: be there. All I know is that you and I 865 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: are road trip and we're going to Albany, New York. Yeah, 866 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: it's the Heroes hideout on August what is it eleven? 867 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 1: So seventh? Yeah, yeah, August seventh. Well, we'll be heading 868 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: up to Albany. You're doing a virtual signing on Saturday night, 869 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna be an in store appearance on 870 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: Sunday at the Heroes Hideout where it's not just you, 871 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: it's a plethora of other E CW talent. But this 872 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: is not a convention, it's a it's an autograph store. 873 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: But there's going to be multiple talents there. I know 874 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: Jerry Lynn. Jerry Lynn will be there, he will be 875 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: road tripping with us. I've heard McK foley is going 876 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: to be there. I've heard Rob van dam is going 877 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 1: to be there. So there's gonna be some other folks 878 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: in attendance. I just haven't seen the graphic yet. But 879 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: we're anything. My plans are set. I'm I'm on my 880 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: way to your house. We're gonna be happening. It's absolutely happening. 881 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: I just haven't been handed the physical graphic h yet. 882 00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: But that's a month. YEA. Well, you show up, you'll 883 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: get paid. We need to start promoting. But like people 884 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: are asking me, so when is the virtual and I 885 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: August seventh, and they go, well what time? And I 886 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: said I don't know, and they go, well, where can 887 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 1: we find it? I don't know. I'm going to try 888 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: to find it. Keep talking. I'm gonna find it. I'm 889 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna see if we got any information out there. I 890 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 1: don't know the next day or is it a Friday, Saturday? 891 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: A Saturday Sunday is a Saturday Sunday, Okay, So I 892 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: don't know on Sunday what time the in store is? 893 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: I know, I think all right, So the best of 894 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 1: my knowledge, the in store is eleven to one, okay, 895 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 1: and the virtual is at seven Saturday. Okay, So where 896 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: can they find us? In store? So that's year. That's 897 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: the heroes hideout at one thirty one Colony Center in Albany, 898 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: New York. Okay. Well, there you go for everybody who 899 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: asked we should make our own graphic and just put 900 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,720 Speaker 1: it up. I mean, I was trying to save myself 901 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: from having to do everything around here, but I mean 902 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta just go ahead and do everything to 903 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: make sure the ship gets done. Dan Lemley says, I 904 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: can send you what I can find. I follow them 905 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: on Facebook. We'd appreciate that, Dan, because we have no 906 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: info and we're going which is bizarre to me. Not 907 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 1: only me, you're gonna get my lovely wife will be 908 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: joining me as well on the ride because you know 909 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: when you're doing your virtual and am I gonna do 910 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: this sit around the whole time? My wife's gonna be 911 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 1: there with me, so we're gonna it's nice. We're gonna 912 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: hang out, but then you know, we're also gonna be 913 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,879 Speaker 1: hanging out, so yeah, I'm sure I'll be hanging out 914 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: as well. I'm looking forward to Jerry Lynn. I can't 915 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: wait to see Jerry. We talk all the time, but 916 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him in Oh good lord since before COVID. 917 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: I'm on the Hero's Hideout website right now. Okay, okay, 918 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: so let's see what we can This is, This is 919 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: riveting stuff for twitch. Brett Hart's going to be there 920 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: September eighteenth, Oh, what about August seventh? John Moxley is 921 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: going to be there, October twenty third, Oh, we don't 922 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: care about all these other dates? Which Stratus is going 923 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: to be there? November fourteenth, h trist Stratus. Oh, let's see. 924 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: Chelsea Green will be there September fifth. Doesn't we stop 925 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: promoting everyone else and just talking about I'm just telling 926 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking for the I'm looking for the calendar here. God, 927 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: let's see book the worst. Let's see I'm moving up, 928 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: let's move up a month. Can I just tell you 929 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: how much my mouth hurts right now? Okay, here we go, 930 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 1: Here we go. What is it? That's massa Chusetts. Oh 931 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: dear God, all right, that's they don't have it updated. Yes, 932 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: so they have all those other people that are there 933 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: months and months from now, but something that's coming up 934 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: in a month they have no no info for Hey, look, 935 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you, Francine. I know 936 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 1: we're booked, that's all I can tell you. Well, we're 937 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,959 Speaker 1: going to be there. I really think that there should 938 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: be something up for us. I have been. I'm going 939 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: to get some information for us today. How dare you 940 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: heroes hide out? But it's no, it's you know, we're 941 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,399 Speaker 1: working with the Captain's corner, So the Captain's corner needs 942 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: to help provide some information for get on that chat. 943 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: Now that we've just wasted six minutes talking about that, Well, 944 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: want to promote it. I know I'm getting Nicol. The 945 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: Mighty Ducks were there. The Mighty Ducks were there on 946 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: June fifth. I always get chastised because I never know 947 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: where I'm going to be or what I'm going to do. Well, 948 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: let me tell you, half the time you get booked 949 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: for stuff, you don't get any info. It's just like 950 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 1: mark this down. You're either going to get picked up 951 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: or you have to go to the airport and then 952 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: we wait for the handlers to pick us up. And 953 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 1: we have no idea where. It's like that all the time. Oddly, 954 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 1: I just got an e mail that my item was 955 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,240 Speaker 1: rejected by Facebook, uh and not allowed to be posts online. 956 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: It was the picture of you and Shane. What it 957 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: didn't comply with their advertising policies? What does that mean? 958 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: Franchise Shane Douglas and Queen of Extreme Francine Dual signed photo? 959 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 1: Were you trying to sell it? I had it up 960 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: as a what do you call a like in my 961 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: little shop that I never put anything else in except 962 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:31,360 Speaker 1: for that and like two other items items uh band 963 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 1: They were not. Oh dear Facebook, you know what is wrong? 964 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: What is it? Me? It's you hush? Maybe Shane said 965 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: something that offended. Shane's the heat bonger, not me. I'm 966 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: the nice one. We got a few more minutes before 967 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: we want to you want to do the Patreon weekly. 968 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the extras this week and what people 969 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: can see. It's all about Patreon, folks. It's right there 970 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: Patreon dot com. A franccene podcast. If you like franccene, 971 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: if you like podcasting, it's the perfect marriage. We do 972 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: four shows a week, including this. This is Eyes up Here. 973 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: This is our main show, but we give you three 974 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: extras in addition to this video version of Eyes up Here. 975 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: You ready for what we're going to be doing this week, 976 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: Well you already know because you were there. I'm ready. 977 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: The first thing we're doing is a Patreon member spotlight. 978 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 1: So what we do is when you sign up for Patreon, 979 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,280 Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to come on, say hi, introduce 980 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: yourself to franccene, and I tell us about yourself, what 981 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: you look forward to with Eyes up Here, And might 982 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: I say this is for any tier level, so you 983 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 1: don't have to, you know, go to the highest tier level. 984 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: Even at our lowest level, which is ten dollars a month, 985 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 1: you get to come on and chat with me and Chad, 986 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: and you know, we get to know you a little better. 987 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 1: So I think this is a great opportunity for anyone 988 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: who's ever wanted to do a one on one with me. Well, 989 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 1: now you get a two on one because U Chad 990 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: never goes away, He's always here, so it'll be it'll 991 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: be a three give me the three of us like 992 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: a bad like what do you call pimple or something? 993 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 1: I just don't go away easy. You got to really 994 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: like a little mosquito, the one mosquito that's always nipping 995 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 1: at you. That's right, catch them out of thin air. 996 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: But at our highest here you actually get to co 997 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: host the show and format it in whichever way you want. 998 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 1: And we've seen in the past that has been a 999 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: launching pad for other members who want to go off 1000 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: and do other things. Yeah, they start their own podcast, 1001 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 1: which is great. So if you want some practice, come 1002 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: on over to us and we'll help you out with that. 1003 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: But it is a fun time. I do like the 1004 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: one on one. You know, we get to know you, 1005 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: not just the name that I see. I get to 1006 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: know the faces. And it's it's nice for me because 1007 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 1: I'm a people person and I love to talk to 1008 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: people and to see your face and uh, get to 1009 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: know a little more about you is what I like. 1010 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: Because y'all know about me. I need to learn more 1011 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: about you, that's right. And you get to talk to 1012 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: me because I get to set it all up, so 1013 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: you get to talk to him, and the first person 1014 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: who signs up today we'll get that at a extra yes, 1015 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 1: so the first email that we get coming through is 1016 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: the one that wins' that's correct. And then also this 1017 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 1: week you can do a little trivia with us. We 1018 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: do some wrestling trivia, and this is something we'll pull 1019 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,479 Speaker 1: out every so often. We kind of had an idea 1020 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 1: of what we were going to do, but we flipped 1021 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: the switch. We did some wrestling trivia, and you will 1022 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,240 Speaker 1: be surprised when you listen to this trivia and see 1023 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 1: how well our suppose Oh, I don't know anything about 1024 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: wrestling person did on the trivia portion of this show. 1025 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 1: I didn't do that great. Yes you did. I don't 1026 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: think I did. I think you did. I personally think 1027 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: you did. I did, Okay, I didn't. I don't know. 1028 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: Maybe if for not watching the product that much, I 1029 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: did pretty well, but I think most of our members 1030 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: will beat me. I think that most questions had a 1031 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: had like a haven't happened in the last ten years. 1032 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 1: They were all a little older, some of the questions, 1033 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 1: So maybe that's a lot of stuff I didn't watch 1034 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 1: so I was pulling answers out my ass and one 1035 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,359 Speaker 1: of them will shock you. So this was a great 1036 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: one and even you popped for this. The watch along 1037 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: this week, Living Dangerously nineteen ninety nine Shane Douglas and 1038 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 1: a unexpected techning partner, Tommy Dreamer with Francine taking on 1039 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: Just Incredible and Lance Storm. What a great match that 1040 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: got one star. It got one star. Yes, no, it 1041 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:42,959 Speaker 1: was fun. Again. I do not watch I don't watch 1042 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: any wrestling except for if I do the aw watch 1043 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 1: alongs on Twitch right. I never even when we had 1044 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 1: the ww network, I never sat there and pulled up 1045 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: old things just to watch them. I don't watch stuff. 1046 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: So this watch along it's great because it jars my 1047 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: memory because he have the things I don't remember. And 1048 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: like today, when you said it to me, I was like, 1049 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember this. And then as soon as I 1050 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 1: came out the current, I remember this and everything falls 1051 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: into place. So I will tell you what we were 1052 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 1: talking about backstage, What was happening, you know, while I 1053 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: was in the ring, what was going through my head? 1054 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: Insider information that you will not get anywhere else. So 1055 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 1: Patreon is the place to be great. It literally toggled 1056 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: your memory. It was great. Yeah, And I just went 1057 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: to say hi to my bestie Betty. Good afternoon, my love, 1058 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: Hello Betty. Betty needs to come back. She hasn't been 1059 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: on in quite a while. Troy wanted to point out 1060 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: that we can have him back on, just don't invite 1061 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: him for Wrestler Nick. Yeah, Troy didn't do so, you know, 1062 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: but he Troy's a doll. I love when our members 1063 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: come on and play games with us and just have fun. 1064 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 1: And that's what it's about. We just want to have 1065 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: a fun, interactive site for you guys to be a 1066 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: part of. And I literally I can't say enough good 1067 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: things about it because I enjoy every single person that 1068 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 1: we have and everybody adds something different and it just 1069 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: makes it fun. So I would love for for y'all 1070 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 1: to come over and join and get to know you better. 1071 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: I agree, do me a favor, Let's do this. I'm 1072 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 1: going to bring this back up right, but do me. 1073 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: I want to do it for screen capture purposes, so 1074 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 1: I can promote this. Do like a like a wow 1075 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 1: or like point at that and go wow, so we 1076 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: can yeah, yeah, like like there you go. Perfect, So 1077 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: I can I could screencat that and put that in 1078 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: the promo. But yeah, anybody wants to sign up, I'll 1079 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: throw you that. I gave it to our last entry 1080 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 1: that joined the party. Uh what was it? What was 1081 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: his name? Daniel, Daniel Sykes, Daniel Sikes. He's joined the party. 1082 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 1: He got this picture. It's on his way to him 1083 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 1: right now. Maybe you can do the same. Maybe, maybe, 1084 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, there's one question. Termbuckle says, how many dates 1085 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: did ECW work per month? Depends on what year we're 1086 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 1: talking to talking about. At our peak, we were literally 1087 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 1: on the road. We were doing four shots a week, 1088 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: so you know, at our peak we were probably doing 1089 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: between what twelve and sixteen dates a month, which was 1090 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: a lot for us. And then you know, when we 1091 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: declined that we were barely doing too. We won't talk 1092 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: about that. We'll talk about the good times. And thank 1093 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: you for the bits, my friend, Thank you for the bits. 1094 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: If I missed you, thank you for the b But yeah, 1095 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 1: come over join the party. We'd love to have you, 1096 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 1: for sure. Patreon dot com, slash Francine Podcasts. Go back 1097 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 1: and watch the archive. There's a shit ton of content 1098 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 1: on there. Four times as many weeks have we been 1099 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: doing this for months and we haven't missed a week. 1100 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Even when you're on vacation. We didn't even miss a week. 1101 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: I won't miss a week. When I had surgery, I 1102 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: didn't miss a week. We either got I did some 1103 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 1: in advance, and then we had our good friend Vince 1104 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: Russo comment, So I think I was in Disney for Vince, 1105 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 1: but he volunteered. So I said, okay, let's do one. 1106 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: But you know, if I know I'm going to you know, 1107 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: not be available, or if Chad's not going to be available, 1108 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: we will work NonStop all week to get that content 1109 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: done for you. So you there's never a lag with 1110 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: our site. There's always going to be fresh content for 1111 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: you to view. Two hundred and fifty million percent completely agree. 1112 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 1: So well we'll wrap it up. I'll do my plugs 1113 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: and then you do yours. And as Troy pointed out, 1114 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 1: my website is Ibexclusives dot com. Sports memorabilia and private 1115 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: autograph signings, Baseball, sometimes wrestling. You never know what's going 1116 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 1: to pop up. But if you've got somebody that collects, 1117 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: or you collect or want to start collecting, or have 1118 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: like a man cave that you want me to help decorate. 1119 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Head on over to Ibexclusives dot com. If you want 1120 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: to follow me on the social media's, it's at Chad 1121 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,919 Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter. I've got a plethora of other 1122 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: podcasts out in the world outside of my favorite home 1123 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 1: right here on Eyes up Here. I've got Diamond Conversations, 1124 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: which is a baseball podcast. I've got the TMPT Empire 1125 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: with John Pause, as well as New Generation Declassified, and 1126 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 1: on the Russo brand, the franchise Shane Douglas, John and 1127 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: myself we do the Triple Threat podcast, So check it 1128 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: all out. Appreciate everybody, very nice, very well done across 1129 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: the board for me on all social media platforms. You 1130 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: can find me at ECWDPA Francine. Of course I'm on Twitch. 1131 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: You're watching it live right now. It is www dot Twitch, 1132 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 1: dot tv, forward slash ECWDPA Francceine. For cameos, I appreciate 1133 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: you all booking, but please use my Twitter link so 1134 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 1: Apple doesn't take an extra thirty percent from me. You 1135 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: could always find my link on Twitter, which is at 1136 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: ECWDPA Frean Scene and I just want to say thank 1137 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 1: you to everybody who joined us live today. Appreciate all 1138 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: the current Patreon members and all the new members that 1139 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 1: will be joining the Eyes up Your family. And with 1140 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 1: that that is a wrap. 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And don't forget 1155 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 1: while you're on ibexclusives dot com check out the entire 1156 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: list of upcoming signings, join our mailing list and as always, 1157 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: as i'd like to say, we will catch you on 1158 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 1: the flipside.