1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Welcome We got neil ya just way they pulled me back. Hello, Hello, 2 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: welcome back, everybody. Welcome back. First official podcast of the 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: off season. Unfortunately should have been playing Game six up 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: three to two tonight, honestly, but uh. I am Derek Lewandowski, 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: creator of Pinstripe Territory with me as my co host, 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Terrence Cam we call him TK. How you doing man, 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: How you recovering after a tough week? 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? I took some pipe at work, man, and everybody 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: had Dodger gear on today. They had their parade around 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: the city. It was just I was just like getting 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: it rubbed in my face, like movie theaters, Los Angeles, 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: Dodgers World Series. It just sucked everywhere I looked. I 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: am in Los Angeles. I understand. Good for them, congratulations 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: to the Dodgers, but we really we really lost that 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: world series. We didn't really get beat do you know 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: what I mean? There is a difference between the two. 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: I hear you and my first trick or treater yesterday 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: was dressed up as Shoheo Tani with a little decoy. Yeah. 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: It was like a stab in the heart, man, stab 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: in the heart. Obviously a disappointing series, but it sure 21 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: beats not having any baseball for the you know month 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: of October, like we didn't last year. I think what 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: bothers me the most is that the things that everyone 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: recognized all year long are what came back to bite 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: us bad. Fundamental baseball, the defense, the base running, but 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: not so much from the guys you would expect. It 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: was Judge, Volpi, Rizzo and Cole the key contributors to 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: our defensive laps in Game five, and you could argue 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: that Judge Volpi and probably Cole are you know, like 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: three most reliable dudes, right. And Rizzo he had some 31 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: ups and downs defensively, but he's got a reputation as 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 1: being a great defender. You know, Cole doesn't make mental errors, 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: but he did. He might have been a little bit gassed. 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Judge doesn't drop a routine flyballs. He made an unbelievable 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: catch like five minutes before that against Freddy Freeman and 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: VOPEI was a gold Glove winner last year. You know, 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Judge didn't hit until it was too late. He swung 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: the bad in Game five, and I think if there 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: was a Game six tonight, he would have been swinging 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: about well again, But we'll never know. And I think 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: I'll remember this year as the season that the Yankees 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: tried to overwhelm baseball offensively and just kind of forgot 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: how to play the game. That can't happen again. It 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: was like that in six remember Murderers Row plus Cano. 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: They just didn't get out of the first round. But 46 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: how are you going to remember the twenty twenty four season. 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: A really frustrating year because even also I was thinking 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: about this too, but I feel there were about seven 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: or all the Clay Homes blown saves. I know he 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: led the league, but there are about like seven or 51 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: eight games at least during the regular season that the 52 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: Yankees should have won and if they had, if they 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: had won, had basically done their job, they probably would 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: have had home field advantage in the World Series against 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: the Dodger as well, which maybe is not Hindsein's twenty 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: twenty I understand they lost, but in that situation in 57 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: the playoffs, I feel like the home team always has 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: the big advantage, especially in the later innings, just because 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: of last licks, right, you can hit a walk off 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 2: as the home team, and the energy from the crowd 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: exactly energy from the crowd as well is a big thing, 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: so just that as well, just a little little tidbit 63 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: there that kind of added to the whole microcosm of 64 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: the season. But to me, a really frustrating year. A 65 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: lot of hesitance to make adjustments, like keeping Clay Holmes 66 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: as the closer for as long as they did. I 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: understand they went into the season with him as the closer, 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: and I was fine with that until the guy. He 69 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: was great to start the year, in the first month 70 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: of the season, but then kind of started to unravel 71 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: and I think they were just kind of late to 72 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: recognize that. And kudos to Luke Weaver for stepping up 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: and kind of filling that role, because that was really 74 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: impressive for a guy who bounced around the league, was 75 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: a starter, and then he just like became our guy 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: in the ninth inning, especially in the playoffs. 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: I had some comments there about how they would remember 78 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: the base running ineptitude. I feel like that's gonna be 79 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: another thing that sticks in my mind all year long. 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: The base running this year was absolutely atrocious. My man. 81 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, yeah, that was really brutal. I think 82 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: they ranked like last or close to last, and base 83 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: running guys like Torres had a few mishaps. I remember, 84 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: I feel like I remember Jazz getting picked off, Vulty 85 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: getting picked off, Like just stuff like that. It just 86 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: can't really happen, man, especially if you're in scoring position. 87 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: Just really not found. Not like fundamental baseball, which is 88 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: what bit him in the ass in the end, right, 89 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: That's that's what was their downfall. 90 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's talk a little bit about the story 91 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: that's going to be on everybody's mind this winter, and 92 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: that is Juan Soto's future. It definitely seems like he's 93 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: motivated to get the most amount of money that he can. 94 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: Right his media session after Game five, he wore a 95 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: Yankees cap. He sat in the dugout for a long time. 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: He made it seem really emotional, like this could be 97 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: my last game here or whatever. Like I definitely think 98 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: he's open to the possibility of leaving. Reports from John 99 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Hayman that he wants seven hundred million. I mean, you 100 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: look at the numbers there, two eighty eight on the year, 101 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: four nineteen on base percentage, forty one home runs, one 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: hundred and nine RBIs. We talked a lot about Steve 103 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: Cohen and the Mets, but there's some other teams out 104 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: there that I think have the money to spend and 105 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: are willing to spend. At the San Francisco Giants, they 106 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: want to compete with the Dodgers. They know they have 107 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: to spend to do it. They almost signed Arson Judge. 108 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: The Cubs have the money and you know they want 109 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: to spend and compete. They brought in a new manager 110 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: last year in Craig Council. They spent to get him 111 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: and then they had a disappointing year. Let's not forget 112 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays. They were ready to offer sho 113 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Heyo Tani seven hundred million dollars, So you know, with 114 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, so to asking for seven hundred that's like, 115 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: you know, fourteen or fifteen years at forty six, forty 116 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: five something like that, that's kind of what he's looking for. 117 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on Juan Soto's future. 118 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously a great player, had a career year in 119 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: his free agency, and I think something that the analytics 120 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: don't show you about him as a player is that 121 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: he's ready for the moment, the home run against the 122 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: Guardians to send the Yankees to the World Series. Like 123 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: he the moment's not too big for him, and he 124 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: can obviously handle New York. To me personally, I feel 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: like the Mets are probably I know, I think the 126 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Yankees have the odds on favorite. I think they're like 127 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: a minus one fifty favorite to sign them according to DraftKings, 128 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: but the Mets are in second. I think like plus 129 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: two to fifty. You can check me on that. But 130 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: I see the Mets being the ones to ultimately sign him, 131 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: just because I don't think that Steve Cohen's gonna be 132 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: out bit. I just don't think. I don't think he cares. 133 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: I think he's just gonna be like, what do you want? Man? 134 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: Just every time you get an offer, will up it. 135 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: That's my belief. I see the Phillies as a dark 136 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: horse team to sign him, played with Bryce Harper and 137 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: Trey Turner and Washington obviously they're Boris guys as well, 138 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: and a really dark horse team to sign him Atlanta. 139 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: Atlanta's got a lot of team friendly contracts, a lot 140 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: of pretty good young players. They have the payroll to spend. 141 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: If they really want to go there, it's the team. 142 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: Go to Atlanta. I really could see that. Yeah, Atlanta, 143 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: I really still combined with r and Matt Olsen. Yeah, man, 144 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: oh my goodness. That's uh. 145 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: And Atlanta had a lot of injuries a pretty disappointing year. 146 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: They won the World Series a few years back with 147 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: like basically a bunch of replacement players at the deadline. 148 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: I really think that Soto could finish off their their 149 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: roster right there. They had sale. Who's gonna win the 150 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: cy young Strider when he's gonna come back like Atlanta's 151 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: going to be no joke. Man. I just hope that 152 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: wherever he does go, I really hope he doesn't go 153 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: to Toronto because that's obviously a division rival. I I 154 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: really hope Boston doesn't just side to just kind of 155 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: get involved for some reason, Houston, any of those rivals. 156 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: But the Mets would be painful. It would just be 157 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: painful to see him go to the Mets. But I 158 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: see Atlanta as a really Atlanta and Philly those are 159 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: the two dark horses for me, with the Yankees and 160 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: the Mets being the two favorites. 161 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I view the Mets as the favorite, even more 162 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: so than the Yankees, just because of the Steve Cohen factor. 163 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: We got some comments about how you know he didn't 164 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: outbid the Dodgers for show Hay or whatever, but show 165 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 1: Hey wanted to go to the Dodgers. Show Hey views 166 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: the Dodgers rightfully so as the best organization as a whole, 167 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: like the way they do everything, the way they coach, 168 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: the way they train, the way they develop. I feel like, 169 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, the only downside to them is the amount 170 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: of injuries they've had with their pitchers. They obviously need 171 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: to fix that. But show Hay was always going to 172 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: end up in LA. He wouldn't have had to move 173 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: out of his house. You know, he's He's one of 174 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: those critters who's just very comfortable, you know, where he is. 175 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: And I just don't think that show Hay would have 176 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: gone anywhere else but Soto. I think, you know, if 177 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: you look at Cohen, he's outbid the Yankees twice right out. 178 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: He outbid them for Yamamoto, he offered three hundred and 179 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: twenty five and then it was one other person that 180 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: he outbid for that I can't I can't recall, and 181 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: I had it, I had it a little while ago. 182 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: But he he outbid the Yankees on multiple occasions, and 183 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: I feel like he'll do it again. I feel like 184 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: he has no you know, no qualms about doing it again. 185 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: Also, they have a massive amount of money coming off 186 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: the books. They got their shars or Orlander contracts coming 187 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: off their books. Pete A. Lonzo as a free agent, 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if they want to bring him back 189 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: or not. They have a ton of one year contracts 190 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: that they signed for this year. They have a lot 191 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: of young pieces, a lot of young players. It's the 192 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: same market. I really do think that the Mets. The 193 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: Mets are an appealing situation for Juan Soto just because 194 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: of the guys they got coming through the system. They 195 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: got a good front office, They're headed in the right direction. 196 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: They they had a very twenty seventeen Yankees run. The 197 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: Mets just now they're kind of like at the beginning 198 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: of their run. And I was talking about this on 199 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: Frankie Baseball Show. I was just saying, like, you know, 200 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 2: a lot of Yankee fans are always gonna be like 201 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: their little brother. They are their little brother. Of course, 202 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: it's always going to be that way. But with the 203 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: Mets and the Yankees, it's really interesting because obviously in 204 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: the eighties the Yankees weren't all that good and the 205 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: Mets were, and it was really like a met town 206 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: at that time, and a lot of fans in New 207 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: York I think are kind of fringe fans. They root 208 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: for both, and they're going to kind of swap back 209 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: and forth. 210 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: I want, you know, as somebody who remembers the eighties, 211 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: the Yankees weren't bad in the eighties, they just weren't 212 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: quite as good as some of the division winners. The 213 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: divisions were different back then, like there weren't no wild cards. 214 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: The Yankees had the best record in the eighties in 215 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: the American League. 216 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, what I was really going to say, though, 217 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: is like a franchise in sports, not just baseball, but sports, 218 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: a franchise is a joke until they start winning. Like 219 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: the best example of that is Tom Brady and the Patriots. 220 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: What were the before Tom Brady and Bill Belli, you 221 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: know what I mean, And now they're the Patriots. Like 222 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: it's really just you're a joke until you start winning 223 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: and you start rattling off a few rings, like god 224 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 2: forbid the Yankees, the excuse me? The Mets sign Juan 225 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: Soto and like, let's say, in the next ten years 226 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: they win three World Series, Like, you know what I mean, 227 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: It's just and also we're the We're always gonna go 228 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: with like the most present thing. You know, people will 229 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: go with what just happened as well. That's gonna impact 230 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: them a little bit more. 231 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that. I don't think that the 232 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: Mets are gonna win three out of the next ten. 233 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, if. 234 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: So, if Sodo goes there, they definitely are a much 235 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: better team. Like you said, a lot of payroll flexibility, 236 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: and I think about the Yankee situation. If they do 237 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: sign him for say fifty sixty million dollars per year, 238 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: which is what he's gonna want. Uh, they don't have 239 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money to the other areas of this team. 240 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: We need a third baseman, we need a first baseman. 241 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna need a couple of relief pitchers, you know. Uh, look, 242 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna run at least one more rookie 243 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: out there next year with Dominguez. We're talking about a 244 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: second in a second Volti's still very affordable. Jazz Chishom's 245 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: under contract, So you've got a couple of infielders there, 246 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: Austin Wells very cheap. Jose Travino's very cheap as a catcher, 247 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: but you're gonna have a lot of money, you know, 248 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: concentrated into just a few players, which I don't love. 249 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't love. Let's talk about the Martian a little bit. Look, 250 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: I think one way to look at the Yankees differently 251 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: next year is we're gonna have the emergence of a 252 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: potential superstar. And I really think he's gonna be that. 253 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: I know he didn't have a great time in New 254 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: York this year. I felt there was a lot of 255 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: it was a tough situation to throw the kid in, 256 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: go in and steal this guy's job, right that you 257 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: gotta stand next to every day during batting practice, and 258 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, you know, and shag flies with go in 259 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: and steal this guy's job. With two weeks left in 260 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: the season, he messed up a few times defensively, and 261 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: I think that kind of gave him a little bit 262 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: of the yips. I also think that he's gonna improve 263 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: as a hitter with a real spring training, probably gonna 264 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: play some winter ball this year. Don't forget this guy 265 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: was coming back from Tommy John surgery while also trying 266 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: to work his way back onto a major league roster. 267 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: His numbers in the miners were good. He hit three 268 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: eleven or sorry three fourteen, eleven home runs, thirty five RBIs, 269 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: and fifty eight games in the Major's one seventy nine 270 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: two home runs, four RBIs, but he had eleven walks. 271 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: He looked really good at the play in terms of 272 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: taking pitches close pitches. I know his right handed at 273 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: bats were not great. I have a theory on that. 274 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: That one I want to run by you, but I 275 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: think he should be the center fielder next year, not 276 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: the left fielder. I think if he plays centerfield, judge 277 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: either either has to move to left if the Yankees 278 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,479 Speaker 1: resigned Soto, or move back to right, where he belongs 279 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: if the Yankees don't sign Sodo. And Jason has already 280 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: proven that he can steal bases too. He was very 281 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: agreave on the on the basis, I think next year 282 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a twenty five home run thirty five 283 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: stolen base guy. I really do. And I had this 284 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: theory about him as a right handed hitter. If you 285 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: think about when you hit righty, it's against lefties in 286 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: the minor leagues and coming up through the minor leagues. 287 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: If you're a lefty who's good and who can throw strikes. 288 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna be at either the high end of the 289 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: minor leagues or you're gonna get called up. You don't 290 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: see a lot of good lefties with command in the 291 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: minor leagues because everybody needs them. So my thought is 292 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: that you know he's up there, you're seeing left You're 293 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: seeing less lefties first of all, and the ones you 294 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: do see probably have a erratic command or whatever. I 295 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: think getting more consistent strikes will help him be a 296 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: better hitter at the major league level right handed, because 297 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: he has such mastery of the strike zone. That's kind 298 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: of my personal pet theory. I think he will take 299 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: a jump right handed next year. But how do you 300 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: feel about twenty five home runs thirty five stolen bases? 301 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about it. I think I think 302 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: Jason Demingez is gonna win Rookie of the Year next year. 303 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: I think i'd like a pretty He's probably the odds 304 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: on favorite I think to win Rookie of the Year 305 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: next year, according to if you go look at the 306 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: books in Vegas. I don't really know what other American 307 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: League rookies are going to be like Sparkly coming into 308 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: next season. But yeah, I definitely am in lockstep. Put 309 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: him in center. You you made this point before, but 310 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: when you're playing the corners, it's a lot. It's like 311 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: a different position because the balls are like shooting down 312 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: the line and stuff. Like when you're in center, it's 313 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: more kind of it kind of fades one way or 314 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: the other. 315 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't cook as hard. Right now you're generally squaring 316 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: it up to hit it. 317 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: To Yeah, you're not. You're not dealing with the angles 318 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: with the corners as well the field. You know, the 319 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: ball can kind of jump in some ways. So definitely 320 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: in center. Obviously, if they bring back soda, you put 321 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: judge and left. If not, you stick judge back and right. 322 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: That's that's the way the outfield should And then I 323 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: guess they can address the other outfield spot. I'm not 324 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: really sure how they'll do that. We can get into 325 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 2: that later. But yeah, I think he's gonna have a 326 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: great season. I think that he needs at bats, he 327 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: needs reps, he needs a lot of looks at the 328 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: major league level. I think he'll probably struggle the first 329 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: month or so, probably in spring training as well, but 330 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: I really really want to see the Yankees give him 331 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: the Volpee treatment. Stick with him, just stick with him, 332 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: just keep writing. 333 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: I actually think he's gonna come out of the gate 334 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: hot next year. 335 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: I really do. 336 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: I think he's got something to prove. I think just 337 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: just knowing that he's probably gonna have a job in 338 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: spring training will make it, you know, a little bit 339 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: easier on him. I mean, the Yankees aren't going to 340 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: sign other outfit. They're going to give him a shot. 341 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: Right The fans want to see him. He's their top prospect. 342 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: He's ready, switch hitter, power, speed, very marketable. You know, 343 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: he had the Players Tribune our article of the day 344 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: he got called up. He's going to be around. He's 345 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: going to be in the Yankees starting outfield next year, 346 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: whether it's in left field or whether it's in centerfield. 347 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: But I would not shock me if he got off 348 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: to a start like Gang Busters, just feeling comfortable and 349 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: the weight will be lifted that he felt this year 350 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: like entering independent race, trying to steal a guy's job. 351 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: You know, I got to hit right now or else 352 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be on that playoff roster. I 353 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: just felt like he was pressing a little bit. Also 354 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: coming back from the injury. But yeah, I think he's 355 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: you know. 356 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: I did hear CC Sabbathia say something once where when 357 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: you're in spring training trying to make a team, it's 358 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: a whole different mentality from when you're already on the team. 359 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: Let's say you're Aaron Judge, you're making forty million, and 360 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 2: you're a superstar, because when you're in spring training, in 361 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: that mindset, you're just getting ready for the season, Like 362 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: you're just focusing on how your body feels, your mechanics. 363 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: You're not really like focusing on I'm trying to beat 364 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: a guy out for a job. And it's a totally 365 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: different approach. It's a lot more relaxed obviously, So maybe 366 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: maybe he does come out hot just for that reason. 367 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, you got to have him on the team 368 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: to massage the payroll as well. He's a cheap asset, 369 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: and I think the first thing the Yankees do just 370 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: show him like, hey man, like we believe in you 371 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: have a different number hanging in his lockerin no, you 372 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: know what I mean, unless he likes eighty nine, I 373 00:17:58,720 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: don't really think he does. 374 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: He were number twelve. Yeah, I think Trent Grisham wears twelve, right, 375 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: but he's gonna be on the team next year, so right, give. 376 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: Trent Grisham fourteen. That's what Jami Jones's number was. But 377 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: I don't know just I'm saying, like with the Yankees, 378 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 2: it sounds so silly, but it's so true. It is 379 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of a symbolic kind of thing because 380 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: the Yankees franchise, like the numbers, are such a limited 381 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: entity there, so like, let him walk into spring training 382 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: with a different number, with a good number, and it's 383 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: it's like a subtle kind of hey, we believe in you. 384 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: It's a nod. Yeah, I agree. All right, let's talk 385 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: about the offseason here. We got a question first before 386 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: we get to this. Alex says, do you guys think 387 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: there's any chance at all that the Yankees will land 388 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: Roki Sazaki. I mean, I think there's a chance. I 389 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: was watching a Baseball America podcast last week where they 390 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: don't think he's even gonna come over this winter. And 391 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: if he does, yeah, if he does, it would probably 392 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: be to the Dodgers. But I don't remember what the 393 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: consensus was, but I think he's probably gonna stay one 394 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: more year, So don't be shocked. If he stays in Japan. 395 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: But talk about other potential free agents. So obviously there's 396 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: Juan Soto, There's Alex Bragman, There's Anthony Santander. He had 397 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: forty four home runs but only hit two thirty five. 398 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: You got Corbyn Burns and Blake Snell, two ace level pitchers. 399 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: You got Christian Walker, who had a decent year. He's 400 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: a legit first baseman, but I think he's thirty four 401 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: years old. He's a you know, diamondback. You know, I 402 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: don't know that he's gonna get a lot better at 403 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: his age. Kaoskar Hernandez if the Dodgers don't re sign him, 404 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: could be somebody that you know, comes up huge. I 405 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: think he would mash in Yankee Stadium because he hits 406 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: the ball well the other way, and he's a good guy, 407 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: not a great outfielder, but apparently pretty accurate throwing arm. 408 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on the targets this year? 409 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a pretty good free agency class. A couple 410 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: guys that are on there. Also, I'm seeing Alex saying, 411 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: does Murakami post this year? First baseman in Japan? Lefty 412 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: first basement. That's an interesting name. 413 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: He hit two forty four and struck out one hundred 414 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: and eighty time in Japan. I think he's lost a 415 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: little bit of his luster. They found a little bit 416 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: of a hole in his swing. I wouldn't count on it. 417 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't count on probably not. I also just want 418 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: to address Roki Sasaki. Watching him in the World Baseball Class, 419 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: I love his stuff. 420 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: He's got Tommy John written all over him because he's 421 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty pounds and six to two, 422 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: But I love his stuff. I think he'll probably go 423 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: to the Dodgers because that's like the Japanese team in 424 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 2: the United States now, Like I swear to God, if 425 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: you go to a Dodger game, like they got stuff 426 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: translated in Japanese now, like half the crowd is Japanese. 427 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: It's insane. The show Hey effect is really a real thing, 428 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: but a name. I also that is gonna be a 429 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: free agent. Walker Bueller had a really tough year with injuries, 430 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: but he's got a pretty good track record. I would 431 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: give him a one year flyer if he would take 432 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: that as like a prove it deal. I would be 433 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: interested in that. Corbyn Burns, you got to kick the 434 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: tires he's a cy young candidate. And then Garrett Cole Actually, 435 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: if he opts out that I don't even think we 436 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: really talked about that. But he hasn't opt out, the 437 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: Yankees canvoid it with a tenth year at thirty six million. 438 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 2: Howell is good. He's like thirty four now, I think. 439 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was talking with Rosenthal. He was in one 440 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: of our production meetings and he basically said, nonstory, like, 441 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: Yankees will just give him the extra year because they 442 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: can give him the extra year and he won't go anywhere. 443 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: Yankees won't think twice about doing that. So I'd expect 444 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: to see him back. 445 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: Listen, he pitched great in Game five, defense let him down. Yeah, 446 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: stuff look good. Like the thing about Gary Cole is 447 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: he's not gonna sit ninety eight ninety nine anymore. But 448 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: it's there. It's there when he wants it, you know, 449 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: and when he's fired up, he'll get it. And he's 450 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: he's a reliable. Other than this year, he's been very reliable. 451 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: He's made all of his starts. I think he probably 452 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: is motivated to try to be as healthy as he 453 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: can coming into the season. I think they'll just add 454 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: the tenth year and the Garret Cole's there. Yeah, the 455 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: much bigger issue, like contract wise in the Yankees. This 456 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: DJ lim meyu. 457 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: But I don't know, but we talk about that. Let's 458 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: just talk about that because the Yankees owe him two 459 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: years and thirty million dollars. He obviously did not have 460 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: a good year. He has not been healthy in a while, defeat, 461 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: keep gett in problems, he had no thump. I don't 462 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: know that he makes it out of spring training next year. 463 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: I could see the you know, I could see the 464 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: Yankees paying him to go away. It would be a 465 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: lot of money, obviously, but I could see it happening. Also, 466 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: we got to talk about trades. I mean there's there's 467 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: always trades every winter. They come from out of nowhere. Sometimes, 468 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: you know, is there a third basement out there? Is 469 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: there a first basement out there? I like Nathaniel Lowe. 470 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: I think he would be a perfect fit. You know, 471 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: he's with the Rangers. He's got to be due to 472 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: get paid soon. He would be a perfect fit. I 473 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: don't know if the Yankees would do it. Third base. 474 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't really know who's out there, who's available other 475 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: than the problems A free. 476 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: Agent, Well, this was a name that was floated around 477 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 2: the trade deadline. The team that he's on said no, 478 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: But I do think that it's worth revisiting if they're interested. 479 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: But Ryan McMahon on the Colorado Rockies, I don't know 480 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: if the Rockies would be motivated to move him, but 481 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: obviously if you give them enough, they'll move him. He's 482 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: had a pretty nice contracts, about like twelve million a year. 483 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: A good player plays both third and first, so corners 484 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: there lefty bat. I definitely would would call. There's no 485 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: you can always call. There's no harm in calling. The 486 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: Rockies don't seem that motivated to do it, but like, 487 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: come on, guys, like where are we going? The Colorado Rockies? 488 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: Where are we going? They have no direction it really 489 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: I don't see why you would hold on to that 490 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: player and not just get young assets back. But I 491 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: that would be somebody I kicked the tires on for sure. 492 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I just like to go through other teams 493 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: and kind of take a look at, you know, who 494 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: could be out there that could be moved. I mean 495 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: I look at Pittsburgh and I see key Brian Hayes, 496 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: son of Charlie Hayes, former Yankee third Baseman did not 497 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: have a good year, but he's always been like a 498 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: top prospect. I could see the Yankees doing something like that, 499 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: bring in the guy who doesn't have great stats, but maybe, 500 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: you know, they see something in the metrics. You know, 501 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: he's got kind of this high upside. I could see that, 502 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: and fans would be kind of like, eh, But then 503 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: you sign Juan Soto and everybody forgets about it, and 504 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: then you go to spring training it's like, oh, yeah, 505 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: they signed Kate Brian. You know that type of thing. 506 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a lot of moves out 507 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: there to be made. I just think that you gotta 508 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: kind of spend your way or develop your way out 509 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: of this. Right if if Ben Rice can become a 510 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: stud like he was offensively in the minor leagues, that 511 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: helps out at first base, but he's still not a 512 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: great defender over there. Hopefully he'll get better. Wouldn't hurt 513 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: him to play a little bit of winter ball maybe 514 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: this year. I still think he's got that Greg Bird 515 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: like swing before Greg Bird got hurt. Jazz Chisholm. I 516 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: want him at second base. I don't think labor Tors 517 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: is coming back. We've talked about that. I think he'll 518 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: probably end up somewhere like Seattle that has a big outfield, 519 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: and he'll hit to eighty two ninety. The power will dip, 520 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: but he'll be awesome there, kind of out of the spotlight. 521 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: Maybe help them get over the top offensively. But I 522 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: can't see the Yankees given him a big contract. You 523 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: got j as the natural second basement. I can also 524 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: see them putting Jazz back in the outfield if you 525 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: lose somebody, you know, maybe in left field or whatever. 526 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. They probably just leave him in the 527 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: third base if you don't if you don't move to second. 528 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: But I'd much rather put him at second, to be honest. 529 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with one hundred percent that Susan Waldmon 530 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: was on Foul Territory today and she was talking about 531 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: how many guys the Yankees had out of position. She's like, 532 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: you got a right fielder playing center field, you got 533 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: a second baseman playing third base. You got guys playing 534 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: first base in the playoffs for the first time in 535 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: their career. It's like, where's the development, Where's you know, 536 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: why do we play somebody guys out of position? I 537 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: just don't get it. Let's talk a little bit about 538 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: sloppy ball. So if if Michael Lewis, the author of Moneyball, 539 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: had written a book about this year's team, he would 540 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: have called it sloppy ball. I think, how the hell 541 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: do we fix this? Do we bring in some old 542 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: school guys like Show Walter to be a bench coach? 543 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: You gotta have somebody there who knows and remembers how 544 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: to play baseball and more import how to train baseball. 545 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the guys that the 546 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: Yankees have. The quote in the paper was perfect yesterday, 547 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: talent over fundamentals. We don't have a lot of baseball players. 548 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: We got a lot of guys who can really fucking hit. 549 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: I just, you know, I don't know how you fix this. 550 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: Aside from new manager, new coaching staff. They're bringing back Boone, 551 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to pick up his option. I 552 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: just I don't I don't know how you fix it without, 553 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, just serious coaching improvements. 554 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah there. I think I was talking to my dad 555 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: about this, but that to me is a culture issue 556 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: in the clubhouse. I was talking about this on Frankie Baseball. 557 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: How like the Yankees have kind of like lost their 558 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: mystique a little bit, and that they're kind of just 559 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: one of thirty now, I think, especially since they've they've 560 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 2: struggled to get over the top the last fifteen years. 561 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: Obviously World Series apperience, but I think the way you 562 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: fix that. I like the Buck show Walter as a 563 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: bench coach, I really do. I think they are definitely 564 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: bringing back Boone, and if they got rid of Boone, 565 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: they'd get a Boone two point zero, like they just would. 566 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: So I don't really think Boone is anything other than 567 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: a guy who just executes what the front office wants 568 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: and he's a player's coach and the players like him. 569 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 2: That that's it, bottom line. So I think they would 570 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: just replace him with a Boone clone if they got 571 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: rid of him. It would really just be an optics thing. 572 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: But Buck Showalter is a bench coach is interesting. I 573 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: think a guy like Ron Washington, who's unfortunately managing the 574 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: Angels right now, like I. 575 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: Like this, Willy Randolph Willie Randolph suggestion. I like that, 576 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: but he's pretty I mean, if he wants to travel, 577 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: like once a guy gets to be that old, A 578 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: lot of times they don't want to travel. You have 579 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: to pee a lot even who wants to travel over 580 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: the country and be on planes. 581 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 2: I think a really good optic like the fans would 582 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: love it. Jorge Posada is the bench coach, Like you 583 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: need a guy like that, I would Luis Rojas. I 584 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: don't want him to be the third base any coach anymore. 585 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: Ron Washington did it for a couple teams. I would 586 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: have loved him as the third base coach in New York. 587 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: But Jorge Posada book show Well, I think a bench 588 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: coach being like the old school guy to kind of 589 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: hold guys accountable, like you can't do that, you know, 590 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: like or you The physical error aren't gonna bother me 591 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: as much, but it's much more about the mental stuff man. 592 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: And like the eighth inning and the eighth inning in 593 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: the game one Glabor Torres not keeping the ball in 594 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: front of him, show, hey gets the third. You lose 595 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: that game because of that one play. Sorry, you do 596 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: same thing with Cole not covering the bag like stuff 597 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: like that. The judge fly ball. Optically, it's awful he 598 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 2: missed it, but ninety nine times he makes that play 599 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: out of ten thousand, right, So I'm not gonna kill 600 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: a guy for a physic physical error they happen. It's 601 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: much more of the mental stuff. 602 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: Let me throw this at you though, if you have 603 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: a real third basement at third, maybe he handles that 604 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: short hop from Volpi right, the one that was in 605 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: the hole. You know, we Volpi got the error, but 606 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: maybe a good third basement picks that. You know, Jazz 607 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: is unused to that play. How many times has he 608 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: had to make that play since coming to the Yankees 609 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: having never played third. Playing guys out of position is 610 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: a huge problem. Huge problem. Well, it's gonna be an 611 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: interesting winter. We'll see how everything shakes out. I think 612 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: the bidding war for Sodo could be dangerous because if 613 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: it goes into January or February, you know, Scott Bors' 614 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: clients like to take forever. Then, like you said before 615 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: we got started, it could affect like the musical chairs, right, 616 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: guys could come off the board. So the Yankees have 617 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: to plan like they're not getting Sodo. They have to 618 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: continue to construct the team in a way that would 619 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: maybe incentivize him to come back and take another run 620 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: at it with them. Go out and get some guys, right, 621 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: Go out and get a third basement, Go out and 622 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: get a first basement and be ready and then if 623 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: you can sign Sodo, great, If Sodo walks, you know, 624 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: at least you still got Judge for right, and you 625 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: got Dominguez in center. You still got Trent Grisham on 626 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: the field. He could play center, and Dimingz can play left. 627 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: And then you just need to call up somebody to 628 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: be a fourth outfielder. Obviously it would suck, the lineup 629 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: would not be as good, but you know, hopefully you 630 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: can improve it in other areas. You know, Yanks had 631 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: no power out of first base this year. None. 632 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no. I mean and again Ryan McMahon, I 633 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: think can play either first or third. I guess they're 634 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: probably gonna roll with Ben Rice right now, just to 635 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: see what he becomes, if anything, and then first base 636 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: would be like something they address at the deadline if 637 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: he's not performing. That's kind of how I see what 638 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: they'll do. 639 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: Agree, Well, thanks to everybody who tuned in to the 640 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: first official podcast of the off season. Terrence will be 641 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: back a few times this winter, I'm sure, and we'll 642 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: talk about things and hopefully, you know, talk through some big, 643 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: big moves, because Yankees got to make some big, big 644 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: improvements to get by what's going to be an even 645 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: stronger American League and an even stronger Dodgers team next year. 646 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: They probably strong. They did make one move as expected. 647 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: They picked up Luke Weaver's option two and a half mil. 648 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: That was expected. He should be the closer going in 649 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: spring training unless they make some sick That's that's what 650 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: it does. 651 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: That adds five or six wins if you, if you, 652 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: if the game stays exactly the same, at least five 653 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: or six wins. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we'll see 654 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: you next time. So yeah. If you enjoyed this video, 655 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: please drop a like and give us a subscribe. It 656 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: helps other Yankees fans find the channel. We're also on 657 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: all your favorite podcast platforms and social media. Join the community, 658 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: have some fun. We're here after every game. 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