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Speaker 1: Well, what a postseason, What a postseason?

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, everyone. We know two teams. We still have

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Speaker 2: two teams to figure out for Championship Series spots. Bron

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Speaker 2: Kratz KP. We're gonna flip up a postseason bracket too,

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Speaker 2: and we're also going to remind everyone while we show

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Speaker 2: it to you that postgame shows are where it's at.

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Speaker 1: We're running many of them on our YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: We did one after the Phillies and Dodgers last night,

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Speaker 2: Still super relevant, getting instant reactions from people like Eric

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Speaker 2: Kratz after that Phillies game, even just the first minute

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Speaker 2: is worth watching to go back to you after our show.

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Speaker 2: But we'll do another one on Sunday night for the Alcs.

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Speaker 2: That'll be the Blue Jays taking on I don't know

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Speaker 2: know there'll be a lot of that for the Championship

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Speaker 2: Series and then of course for the World Series. You'll

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Speaker 2: have a mix of us giving you instant reaction after games. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let us get KP's thoughts on that insane ending to

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Speaker 2: the NLDS.

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Speaker 1: So let's charge the mounds.

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Speaker 3: Charge about.

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Speaker 4: KP.

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Speaker 2: We did thirty five minutes on what happened between the

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Speaker 2: Phillies and the Dodgers. Your instant reaction when you saw

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Speaker 2: what happened to Oryan kirkering on the mound that led

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Speaker 2: to the Dodgers walking off the Phillies and moving on

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Speaker 2: to the NLCS.

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Speaker 5: My short answer is sadness. I feel for the player.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you just, especially in a place like Philly,

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Speaker 5: that can be a little bit tough on an individual player.

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Speaker 5: You hate to see two really good teams. You hate

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Speaker 5: to see that game in that way because they put

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Speaker 5: the right guy in the position to get the out.

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Speaker 5: You know, the game just sped up on him a

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Speaker 5: little bit. You know, he did everything he was supposed

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Speaker 5: to do. He bobbled the ball, he panted a little bit,

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Speaker 5: his internal clocks sped up a little bit. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the right place to go to first base, you know,

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Speaker 5: after rewatching it, he would have had to make a

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Speaker 5: good play to first base, but at least it would

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Speaker 5: have been the correct play.

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Speaker 2: Let's choose some more info here. First of all, and

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Speaker 2: this one's gonna go right back to KP. The Dodgers

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Speaker 2: are the second team in history in the postseason the

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Speaker 2: clinch a playoff series on a walk off error. There

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Speaker 2: was one other time period nine years ago today, Rubenettodor's

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Speaker 2: Aaron throw to first on an attempt to double play

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Speaker 2: allowed Josh Donaldon to score and the Toronto Blue Jays

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Speaker 2: swept the Texas Rangers in the alds op the stats

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Speaker 2: hooking us up with that one KP.

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Speaker 1: You were there what happened?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I was there for I mean obviously a much different situation.

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Speaker 5: I mean, first and foremost we were up to nothing,

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Speaker 5: so it didn't feel like an elimination game for us,

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Speaker 5: you know, like it was just a different we were

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Speaker 5: cruising in the series. But also the double play element

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Speaker 5: of it. You know, typically when you throw a ball

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Speaker 5: only difference is Josh Donaldson was at second base going

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Speaker 5: to third when he saw the mist throw. He ran home.

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Speaker 5: You know, I remember it like yesterday, the head first

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Speaker 5: slide coming out of the dugout, being super super excited

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Speaker 5: that we just went on and we were going to

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Speaker 5: our second straight ALCS.

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Speaker 2: One of our teammates says he has nightmares about that

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Speaker 2: exact scenario that played out for Kirkering in Game four.

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Speaker 2: Trevor May said that play is my nightmare, Kratz, you

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Speaker 2: got one sleep on it. Any aftermath thoughts here.

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Speaker 3: My nightmare is I have different color socks on and

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Speaker 3: I don't make it out to the game in time.

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Speaker 3: But that's a different nightmare. I have no other thoughts

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Speaker 3: on it. I even went back to the play that

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Speaker 3: us a game, and like they're still residual. Maybe sometime

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Speaker 3: I'll tell the story, but there's still residual thoughts about it,

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Speaker 3: And so to have it be in this situation that

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Speaker 3: Oryan Kirkring had it in. It was a mistake. People

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Speaker 3: make mistakes every day. It will stay with him for

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Speaker 3: You already saw the sympathy support from his teammates, the

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Speaker 3: people that matter most to him, And now it's his

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Speaker 3: job to say it's not going to define me, because

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Speaker 5: Yeah, an old transparency. Playing in the playoffs, I was

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Speaker 5: end result of me being in the field is making

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Speaker 5: because you know, fans are so passionate and much like

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Speaker 5: Kratzy was saying, hopefully this isn't a moment in time

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Speaker 5: that defines him. It's something that you know, he has

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Speaker 5: an opportunity next year to be in a similar situation

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Speaker 6: See.

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Speaker 3: I never thought of it as oh man, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: make a mistake, and I'm glad that I wasn't like

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Speaker 3: through all the scenarios. I think my downfall in playoffs

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Speaker 3: was this is the moment I am going to do

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Speaker 3: something big oop, whoops, slider and a dirt or this

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Speaker 3: I threw it into center field. Like I was always

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Speaker 3: thinking about the great play and I didn't play. I

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Speaker 5: I think that's a great way to play, though, I

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Speaker 5: mean the moment gets big in the playoffs and the

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Speaker 5: But I remember my initial postseason experience. I would be

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Speaker 5: reason this team loses the game.

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Speaker 2: So one other component here. The Dodgers tied the game

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Speaker 2: thanks to or at least partially thanks to Alex Call

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Speaker 2: right he walked, and Kratz pointed out how it was

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Speaker 2: a missed call, and there are many. Every single game

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Speaker 2: has miss calls. This wouldn't seem unique to me. Kratz

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Speaker 2: in that the umpire actually apologized to Christopher Sanchez is

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Speaker 2: that normal? So here's the tweet from Lachland March. Christopher

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Speaker 2: Sanchez said the umpire apologized to him for missing the

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Speaker 2: which should have been a strikeout became a walk, and

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Speaker 6: Yes they do.

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Speaker 3: I mean you can see on the screen number five

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Speaker 3: They do apologize. Umpires do apologize. JT was flummixed when

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Speaker 3: he didn't call it, like he went to like throw

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Speaker 3: is kind of a no no. But for the umpire

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Speaker 3: to say that to me, that gives players it just it.

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Speaker 3: It calms the players down because they're like, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: get it, you missed it. Maybe today it infuriates them

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Speaker 3: a little bit more. But in the moment, look, man, like,

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Speaker 3: we're humans. We're not watching we're not watching a video game.

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Speaker 3: We're not watching robots. And when it's humans and you

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Speaker 3: have the human element in there, I'm not saying I'm

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Speaker 3: against ABS challenge system because I'm all for it. The

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Speaker 3: human element adds some intrigue to it and adds that

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Speaker 3: like level of angst or excitement depending on which side

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Speaker 2: And we're getting ready to talk about the Phillies coming

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Speaker 2: up in a moment. But on the American League side,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say, they're human beings, and

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Speaker 5: I think that's where the ABS we should be in

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Speaker 5: the human element of it is what makes the game great.

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Speaker 5: you got to kind of be neutral. You don't really

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Speaker 5: good on him for apologizing. I know it doesn't really

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Speaker 6: KP.

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Speaker 2: How dangerous are the Los Angeles Dodgers. They have a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you asked me that I didn't want to

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Speaker 5: stay the obvious because we going into spring training, going

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Speaker 5: This is what you were going to expect from the

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Speaker 5: to be dudes. But they have a real dude right

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Speaker 5: a month ago. But somehow the Dodgers do it again.

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Speaker 5: They figure out this guy can't start, We're just gonna

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Speaker 5: not only close games. He might even pitch three innings.

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Speaker 5: And when he's in there, he just wants to get

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Speaker 1: Krats favorite.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: I think the National League wins it. I think that's

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Speaker 1: Built for actually kp.

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Speaker 2: You know the scariest part for opponents, what three hitter

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Speaker 2: That's really bad. Law of averages. It doesn't look like

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, that's just the depth of the Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: at this time last year, like can the Dodgers get

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Speaker 3: So there was questions and they they almost were eliminated

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Shit off my foot just kind of once that the

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Speaker 6: So just more shit throw.

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Speaker 7: The wall with the test ball, for sure, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: Keep going with it.

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Speaker 7: Hopefully it started a long career. Just keep back of

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Speaker 6: That's it. I can't, I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't be more proud of him for standing up

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Speaker 5: Well, I get goosebumps thinking about it, because when you're

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Speaker 2: And when you hear someone be accountable and answer questions

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Speaker 1: Humanization factor.

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Speaker 1: Game five. Here we go, baby. Maybe home field.

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Speaker 2: Advantage is a thing in some scenarios. Brewers take the

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Speaker 3: What's next? Game five? That's what's next.

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Speaker 4: You're making me choose.

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Speaker 3: You're making me choose already the one.

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Speaker 2: I'm not making you choose who wins. I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 2: to keep blitzing the Brewers early on? Tell me what

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Speaker 2: But that's a four to three game game four. Kp

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Speaker 3: Brewers get knocked out last year by a dinger to

439
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Speaker 3: end the game or in the end of the game

440
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Speaker 3: by Pete Alonzo at home. Brewers fans need to come

441
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Speaker 3: to the park with a positive attitude because that negativity

442
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Speaker 3: of oh are we going to get are we going

443
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Speaker 3: to get bounced again? In back to back to back years?

444
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Speaker 3: Like is this how it's going to go down? Like,

445
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Speaker 3: Oh no, what's going to happen next? And I think

446
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Speaker 3: if they can get rolling, they'll take the momentum and

447
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 3: they'll push it through the end of the game. If

448
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Speaker 3: it's a close game throughout, I think the Cubs ultimately prevail.

449
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

450
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Speaker 5: And the greatest thing you could do as a road team,

451
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Speaker 5: in which I experienced being in Yankee Stadium during the

452
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Speaker 5: Toronto series, is you can go in with a plan

453
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Speaker 5: as a fan base. But baseball is a very reactionary sport.

454
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Speaker 5: You can only be excited about things that kind of

455
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Speaker 5: happen on the field. You can motivate your team, but

456
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 5: you're also very reactionary. And what the Blue Jays did

457
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 5: a great job in Yankee Stadium. They scored first, they

458
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: shut up the crowd, and then it took the Yankee

459
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Speaker 5: some things to get back into the game, to get

460
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Speaker 5: the crowd back into the game. What the Cubs have

461
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Speaker 5: done really good in this series is scoring early. So

462
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Speaker 5: if you're a Brewers fan and you want to create

463
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Speaker 5: this home field environment, even if the Cubs score early,

464
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Speaker 5: you have to find a way to just continue to

465
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Speaker 5: be loud and motivate your team and not be very

466
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Speaker 5: reactionary and not allow things that happened in the past

467
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Speaker 5: to kind of dictate what's happening right now during this series.

468
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Speaker 2: And we've seen this from the Burs all season long.

469
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Speaker 2: I mean, falling behind early on in games and then unfhazed.

470
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Speaker 2: Not even late catchups, it's often early catchups. I mean,

471
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Speaker 2: I've seen plenty of Brewers games where this happens, and

472
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Speaker 2: we saw them in both games that they played at home,

473
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Speaker 2: falling behind early, and especially in Game two. Right Game

474
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Speaker 2: two was the Suzuki home run from sea and then

475
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: five seconds later. I mean, we're tied, so they are

476
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Speaker 2: certainly capable of doing this, but can they outslug the

477
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Speaker 2: Cubs in a winner take all game, and do they

478
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Speaker 2: have the pitching plan in place. I'll tell you one thing, guys,

479
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Speaker 2: I am certainly concerned if I'm a Brewers fan, regardless

480
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Speaker 2: of what happens in this game five, because I'm looking

481
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Speaker 2: at a Dodger team that's got the traditional starting pitching setup.

482
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: They've got it all, they've got the experience, they're clicking

483
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Speaker 2: at the right moment. And for Milwaukee, it's still difficult

484
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Speaker 2: for me KP to look at this team and how

485
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Speaker 2: successful they've been in regular seasons but not able to

486
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Speaker 2: get over the hump in the postseason and wonder, just

487
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Speaker 2: like we talked a little bit about with the Phillies,

488
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Speaker 2: if they don't have the right potion to go the distance.

489
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Speaker 2: I do think you need to build a regular season

490
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Speaker 2: winner and have other things in mind for the postseason.

491
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Speaker 2: Of course, traditional starter horses can help carry you. Brandon

492
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Speaker 2: woodriff loss was huge for them. Imagine if you had

493
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Speaker 2: the wood if that we were seeing when he came back,

494
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Speaker 2: that would be a huge difference maker. Because that was

495
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: eventually taps your pen, and their pen didn't have a

496
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: good game just now against the Cubs.

497
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Speaker 5: That was the exact name that came to mind. Is

498
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Speaker 5: when you're talking about having the right pieces, the right potion.

499
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Speaker 5: I think they were counting on him pitching in the

500
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Speaker 5: postseason this year. Obviously he has some injury history. He

501
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Speaker 5: got injured this year. But you can get away with

502
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Speaker 5: these kind of bullpen kind of scramble mode kind of

503
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Speaker 5: games in a five game series, but you will get

504
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 5: exposed in a seven game series. And that was always

505
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Speaker 5: the question with like a Dodger team, if they can

506
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Speaker 5: get to the seven game series, that's what they're really

507
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Speaker 5: built for because they do have your traditional four starters.

508
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 5: You know, they even have a fifth starter and Kershoff

509
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 5: you really wanted to use them who's now in the bullpen.

510
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 5: But it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough if

511
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 5: either of these teams move on, because I don't think

512
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 5: the Cubs really have that kind of starting pitching depth

513
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 5: two that you know, maybe like a Dodger team has,

514
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 5: where you're rolling out four guys that you're very comfortable

515
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: with every time they take the ball.

516
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Speaker 2: Kratz, do you feel this at all, what are you

517
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: seeing postseason version of Milwaukee. I know it's only been

518
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: four games, but you made a face when I said, Hey,

519
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Speaker 2: if you get through this game five, you're running into

520
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: I think they're built to give the Dodgers a tougher

522
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Speaker 3: time than the Cubs. I think the Cubs can be

523
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 3: pitched too, and you know, I think they're And look,

524
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: people are gonna say I'm a homer. I'm not a

525
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: homer for the team of the Brewers. I'm a homer

526
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: for the fans of the Brewers. I almost want this

527
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 3: more for the fans that I do, individual friends that

528
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 3: I have on a team, or coaches who are on

529
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: the team that I really like. To me, it's about

530
00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 3: like this, this fan base getting the ultimate prize. And

531
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: in the way is the Cubs right now. In the

532
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: way is the fact that they don't have a starting pitcher.

533
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: But over these years, look at what the Brewers have

534
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: had in starting pitching. They have had Corbin Burns mega

535
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: free agent. Big Wu was going to be a mega

536
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: free agent before the before the shoulder derailed him and

537
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: he missed almost two seasons. Freddy Peralta is a bona

538
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: fide Ace. Now he's taken that next step and you

539
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 3: continually add guys in.

540
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Speaker 6: So to me, I think they were built. They were

541
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Speaker 6: built for.

542
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: The postseason, but there's so many they don't have enough

543
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: depth overall. And that's where I think it's tough. When

544
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: you don't have the money, you can't go out and

545
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: keep one of these guys. So they have to do

546
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: things differently. And now they're backs up against the wall.

547
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: They have to go and push all in whatever they

548
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: feel like. Their style is go push all in and

549
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: leave it out, leave it all out on the field,

550
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: run but hit whatever it is. Your superstars need to

551
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 3: step up. Each starting pitch or each pitcher needs to

552
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: be ready for tonight and they need to leave it

553
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: out on the field or the Cubs will take them

554
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: down in this game.

555
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I got the same. I think the

556
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 5: Blue Jays team is unbelievable. But that's really my concern

557
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 5: with them going into that longer series is who's going

558
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 5: to pitch the fourth game and if the Seattle's able

559
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 5: to get there. I think that's what Seattle's really built for,

560
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 5: is playing these long playoff series, assuming like someone like

561
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 5: Brian Wu comes back. But it's hard. It's hard to,

562
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 5: you know, really have four starting pitchers that you rely on,

563
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 5: and sometimes it's really even hard to have three starting

564
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 5: pitchers you can rely on. That's what makes the Dodgers

565
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 5: just kind of this unique scenario where they just know

566
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 5: that throughout a season you're going to go through a

567
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 5: lot of starting pitching depth. But ultimately, when it comes

568
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 5: down to these long series that you're trying to win,

569
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 5: we need four guys.

570
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and during a season you need like fifteen, and

571
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: then you hope that you've got five or six towards

572
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: the end of the year. Then you can pick from

573
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: that five or six to go with four that you

574
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: think you can.

575
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: Get through October with.

576
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: And then if it's a tough decision, great and Michian

577
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: pitches out of the bullpen for the Dodgers. Roki Sazaki

578
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: is now a bullpen and extraordinary, And we get it.

579
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: They've got the resources.

580
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: But we mentioned this in the postgame show last night

581
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 2: when the Dodgers took down the Phillies. They're not the

582
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: only rich team in baseball, and they actually made plenty

583
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: of mistakes, right Like they signed up Tanner Scott and

584
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: Kirby Yates. They're not a relevant factor for this team

585
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: in October now. So it's not like it was perfection.

586
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: The Mets spent close to as much money as them

587
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: and they haven't figured out even making the playoffs this year.

588
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: But anyway, we're excited. Game five is going to be awesome.

589
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see it. My last shout out here

590
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: from Game four is Matt Boyd completely turning it around

591
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: and showing why he needs a regular rest like any

592
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: other starter in baseball. I'm sorry like that. His stuff

593
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: was so much better, so much more crisp, command of

594
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 2: the curve, crats like it to look just like at

595
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: his secondary stuff alone, and the difference that you saw

596
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: in the first game versus what you saw in Game four,

597
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, yeah, modern starter needs regular rest,

598
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Speaker 2: especially a guy who's been through it, pitched a really

599
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Speaker 2: long year, had some issues down the stretch of this season.

600
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Speaker 1: It was a no brainer to see the difference. And

601
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Speaker 1: they won't do that again.

602
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Speaker 3: These are the kind of decisions that I would be

603
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: more leaning towards, like somebody else getting in trouble for.

604
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying it's a council thing. I'm saying

605
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: for the team to come to him and say, hey,

606
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: will you start. Maybe wasn't reading the room and if

607
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: the Cubs lose, If the Cubs lose this series, somebody

608
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: wasn't reading the room. Having Matthew Boyd all the things

609
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: you just said, a little bit of injury history has

610
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: kind of bounced around, was struggling a little bit at

611
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Speaker 3: the end of the year, and you can't go to

612
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Speaker 3: him and say, can you get us game one short rest? Like, yeah, KP,

613
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: I'm sure you would agree with me. Your leg's hanging off.

614
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: You're like, am I faster than this person you're gonna

615
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: put out there? I'm playing. But there's a point where

616
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: the team has to say, no, we're not gonna throw

617
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: your own short rest. Sorry, we just can't do that.

618
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: And it proved it last night.

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Speaker 5: It's not always the rest component too. It's as a

620
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: starting pitcher, you get off the mound twice, you throw,

621
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Speaker 5: and then you got your bullpen. But to be sharp,

622
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Speaker 5: you need to be able to kind of have that

623
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Speaker 5: bullpen day, you know, unless maybe going into it, you

624
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: know you're gonna pitch on short rest and maybe you

625
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 5: can get off the mound a little bit and really

626
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Speaker 5: work on your craft. But you know, it's much like

627
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Speaker 5: pinch hitting, Like it's really hard to go out there

628
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 5: and be in a rhythm all the time. That's why

629
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 5: playing every day is a little bit easier than coming

630
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Speaker 5: off the bench. So when you're only able to get

631
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Speaker 5: off the mound and then get off the mound again,

632
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Speaker 5: and you have no ability to kind of work on

633
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Speaker 5: your mechanics, your feel for your pitches, I think that's

634
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 5: an equally as big factor of why guys typically struggle

635
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 5: on short rest is because they just don't have the

636
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Speaker 5: feel for their stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, perfectly stated.

638
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Speaker 2: We're excited for this one game five n LDS Brewers Cubs.

639
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Speaker 2: we had an epic battle just now, two shows starting

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Speaker 2: at the same time. Rare on the FT network, but

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Speaker 2: Ken Rosen thoughts some flight delay, so he popped on

657
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Speaker 2: at one o'clock Eastern and got his fair territory show

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Speaker 2: for the week done. In the books coming back from

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Speaker 2: the Yankees Blue Jays series, so lots of thoughts from

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Speaker 2: Ken on that series, and specifically he addressed what went

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Speaker 2: wrong with the Yankees and if Aaron Boone and or

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Speaker 2: Brian Cashman should be concerned about their job security. And

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Speaker 2: most Yankee fans are gonna laugh at this point. There's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of continuity there for a while, but

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Speaker 2: it's at least a discussion worth listening to with Ken

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Speaker 2: kp your thoughts. I mean, the Yankees, for their standards,

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Speaker 2: have not gone the distance in a long time for

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Speaker 2: their standards, right, It's a team that's had a ton

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Speaker 2: of success.

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Speaker 1: They have resources, they've.

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Speaker 2: Had the same GM forever and now they've had the

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Speaker 2: same manager for a long period of time. Some of

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Speaker 2: the guys are going to move on, but I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about player personnel. But they've still got most guys under

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Speaker 2: contract for a while.

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Speaker 1: So what do you do?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I honestly, I listened to what you know,

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Speaker 5: Jeter and a Rod had to say after the game,

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Speaker 5: and I don't think it's Aaron Boone problem. I think

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Speaker 5: it's a roster configuration problem. You know, obviously someone had

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Speaker 5: the entire team. Can't take the blame. You can't. The

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Speaker 5: old saying is you can't fire the whole team, right,

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Speaker 5: so someone has to, you know, be fired, you take

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Speaker 5: the blame for what they're doing. And in this case,

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's Aaron Boone. I think it's the

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Speaker 5: roster that he was given was a little bit flawed.

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Speaker 5: You know, you have two left handed catchers, you have

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Speaker 5: multiple dhs, you don't have a lot of versatility to

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Speaker 5: be able to kind of mix and match. You don't

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Speaker 5: have a lot of contact. You have a lot of

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Speaker 5: power and not a lot of contact, not a lot

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Speaker 5: of speed. So I think it's more about the way

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Speaker 5: the roster was constructed and granted, you know, if you

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Speaker 5: have Garrett Cole pitching in two of these games, it's

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Speaker 5: probably a different story. But teams that are able to

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Speaker 5: overcome injuries of their superstars and being able to have

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Speaker 5: depth and piece it together and draft and develop and

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Speaker 5: have these guys kind of you know, waiting in the

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Speaker 5: wing is you know, I think the bigger issue here Kratz.

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Speaker 2: One thing I just want to add, and we'll have

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Speaker 2: to have Andrey Martinez back on the show because he

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Speaker 2: was kind of defending the front office side of the equation,

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Speaker 2: even though I do think it's much more roster construction

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Speaker 2: than Boonie is.

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Speaker 1: He said out.

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Speaker 2: Susan Waldman pointed out that no, Boonie's just getting the

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Speaker 2: info and then making the decisions. And I love Susan too,

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Speaker 2: but guess what, if you disagree too much, you don't

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Speaker 2: have a job. That's how it works. It doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to be said. But I'm going against both of them

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Speaker 2: on that front, and.

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Speaker 3: They have to all work in lockstep. Good organizations, which

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Speaker 3: the Yankees are a great organization, are working in lockstep

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Speaker 3: where you don't win.

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Speaker 1: I agree. It's ft presented by Fox One.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Ryan Divish coming up in

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Speaker 2: just a moment about the Seattle Mariners and the Detroit Tigers,

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Speaker 2: and obviously the Mariners have the ultimate street going here.

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Speaker 2: The only team KP in Major League Baseball that's never

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Speaker 2: made it to the World Series. No World Series appearances

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Speaker 2: for the Mariners, and they're damn close here.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if they weren't clashing with the team that

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Speaker 5: I'm rooting for, I would be rooting for him, because,

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Speaker 5: once again, I like seeing things that have never happened before.

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Speaker 5: I think the Mariners is a tremendous organization. I always

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Speaker 5: love going to the city of Seattle. Very passionate fan

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Speaker 5: base and hot take. I think they have the MVP.

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Speaker 6: Not that hot, kind of lukewarm, kind of a lukewarm take, but.

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Speaker 5: No, I no, I was more to just get you

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Speaker 5: going a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's I think it's fifty

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Speaker 3: to fifty. Got a chance it is going to be

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Speaker 3: a game five, not like we've ever seen. I feel

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Speaker 3: like when it's Game five.

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Speaker 6: You're like, oh, who's going to hit the home run?

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Speaker 3: It's like who's going to get jammed and get the

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Speaker 3: first on a fielder's choice?

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Speaker 5: Can we recreate that ball that went over Schoobl's head.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's what they're working on the cagere at

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Speaker 5: right now. They're like, hey, you can't hit them, but

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Speaker 5: maybe you can chop one off home plate, get it

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Speaker 5: over his head. And if you are fortunate to somehow

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Speaker 5: get to second base, just run like hell until someone

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Speaker 5: stops you, because it feels like that's the only way

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Speaker 5: to score.

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Speaker 3: Run off them, and we'll pick your thumbs up. The

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Speaker 3: next batter will pick your thumbs up in the batter's box,

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Speaker 3: or the guy scoring will pick pick your thumbs up.

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Speaker 3: Like it's like you're gonna see old school baseball tonight, that.

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Speaker 6: Is for sure, buners.

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Speaker 5: I mean we could see we could see a sagmunt

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Speaker 5: in the first inning. I think that's how that's what

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Speaker 5: type of game it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Over Under two and a half bunts.

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Speaker 6: In the game, I'm going under. Going over, I'm going

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Speaker 6: under because they won. They won't have that many base runners.

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Speaker 1: Wow, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this big game five coming up with

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Speaker 2: Seattle Times writer Ryan Davish. Back on it, Ryan, we

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Speaker 2: really appreciate the time, crazy night coming up in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Can you paint the picture of how crazy it's going

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Speaker 2: to be for the city, but then also for the

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Speaker 2: game in terms of decision making on the Seattle side,

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Speaker 2: I think Dan Wilson probably is going to have a

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Speaker 2: little more churning to do with his pitching decisions versus

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Speaker 2: aj Hinch.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm expecting it to be chaos tonight. I think

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Speaker 8: part of it is is like, I know the fan

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Speaker 8: base is excited, but there's a segment of the fan

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Speaker 8: base it's absolutely terrified of what's kind of happened because

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Speaker 8: of I don't know, just the years and years and

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Speaker 8: years of frustration, and so there is a large segment

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Speaker 8: of the fan base that's probably a little pessimistic.

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Speaker 4: They seem to all reside in my Twitter mentions.

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Speaker 8: Then there's also a part of the fan base that's like,

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Speaker 8: oh yeah, I no, Like it's better that they have this.

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Speaker 8: Let's you know, they can win it at home, everybody

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Speaker 8: can celebrate with them.

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Speaker 4: It'll be pandemonium.

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Speaker 8: I mean, when they clinched the division, there was a

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Speaker 8: huge party outside of T Mobile Park and people are

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Speaker 8: out celebrating. So I'm guessing that's you know that there's

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Speaker 8: just all that kind of anxiety, like nervous anxiety, excited energy, all.

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Speaker 4: That stuff mixed together.

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Speaker 8: You just don't want the rubbing off on the players obviously,

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Speaker 8: and it's for the moves. I mean, like it's gonna

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Speaker 8: be a little different. You know, we've expected this from

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Speaker 8: aj Hinch because that's how they've done stuff a lot

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Speaker 8: of the years.

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Speaker 4: But it's different when you have Trek Skuel on the mound.

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Speaker 4: You don't, you know, your decisions are pretty easy.

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Speaker 8: With Dan Wilson, you know it's gonna be managing a

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Speaker 8: game different than he's ever managed before. I mean, I

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Speaker 8: think that he saw that in game one, adjusted in

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Speaker 8: game two. I thought in game four there was some

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Speaker 8: different things he could have done maybe to offset things.

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Speaker 8: And so tonight it's gonna be you know, if George

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Speaker 8: Kirby doesn't have it, you got to go get him

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Speaker 8: right away.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 8: I think he'll be fine. I think George's has looked

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Speaker 8: pretty strong. You saw the ninety nine mile por sinkers.

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Speaker 8: He was firing in the last game. There's last outing.

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Speaker 8: But you cannot hesitate. You have to be aggre if

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Speaker 8: in every decision you make in a game five, because

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Speaker 8: it's winner.

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Speaker 5: Go home, Ryan finish this sentence for me, the manner

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Speaker 5: the Mariners win tonight, if.

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Speaker 8: The Mayors win a night, if Cal Rawley or Julio

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Speaker 8: Rodriguez hit a homer, that's you know, to me, that's

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Speaker 8: a big thing. Like if you noticed the first few

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Speaker 8: games where they were going, Julio was a big presence,

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Speaker 8: and I think Game three, Game four, they really were

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Speaker 8: very careful with how they pitched to him because they

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Speaker 8: know how much damage he can cause, and he didn't.

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Speaker 4: You know, he didn't have a hit in neither of

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Speaker 4: those two games, I believe, So getting.

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Speaker 8: Julio on base or having him hit him hit a homer,

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Speaker 8: I know, you guys, a boy aj he's been bringing up.

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Speaker 4: If the Mariners hit two homers in a game, that

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Speaker 4: are usually pretty unbeatable.

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Speaker 8: So if they can get one homer from Cal or

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Speaker 8: Julio and then maybe a homer from somebody else, that's

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Speaker 8: how they do it. But it probably won't come off

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Speaker 8: of Terrek schoobl I mean, like you think about it.

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Speaker 8: The other day, Scooble threw what six innings, he struck

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Speaker 8: out nine, He allowed five hits, but he just basically

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Speaker 8: they made two mistakes and they were both to Polanco.

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Speaker 4: Who hit him out.

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Speaker 8: I'm guessing that he won't throw a cement mixer to

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Speaker 8: Jorge Polanco again, or even a two to zero fastball

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Speaker 8: and challenge him. I think they're gonna be very They're

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Speaker 8: gonna be very cognizant about where they want to be

834
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Speaker 8: and with in certain spots of the zone and let

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Speaker 8: other guys beat them, specifically the bottom of the order,

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Speaker 8: which other than in Game four, hasn't done a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: Do you lean to the fact that it is almost

838
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Speaker 3: impossible to beat Tarrek Scruble four times in a season

839
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Speaker 3: and just say he's been almost perfect. Now tonight he's

840
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Speaker 3: gonna be perfect? Or is there something in the sauce?

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Speaker 3: Is there something in the fact that this team swings

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Speaker 3: and Tarrek Scrugle's not pitching around guys and so you

843
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Speaker 3: know the two laws of attraction pitches guys pitching the

844
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Speaker 3: zone and teams that swing. Something bad is gonna happen

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Speaker 3: for Scooble.

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Speaker 8: I certainly don't think they're afraid of him. I mean,

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Speaker 8: like you played him three times, you're not afraid of

848
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Speaker 8: what he's done. You know you can beat him, even

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Speaker 8: if it has been kind of ugly.

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Speaker 4: In how they've beaten him.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we're trying about Donovan Solano hit an RBI

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Speaker 8: triple in one of the games that they beat him,

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Speaker 8: and Dylan Moore, who you know, in the first time

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Speaker 8: they beat him, they hit a solo homer. Those guys

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Speaker 8: aren't with him anymore. But I think you beat a guy,

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Speaker 8: you've seen him a lot. I think they understand. The

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Speaker 8: one thing is is like that that change up, that disgusting,

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Speaker 8: filthy change up they get in counts where that it's

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Speaker 8: a possibility. They just got to see it up because

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Speaker 8: it's like that thing is so nasty and he'll.

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Speaker 4: Throw it left on left. You know.

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Speaker 8: I was looking at my buddy Tim Booth that works

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Speaker 8: with me at the see all times. He did some

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Speaker 8: research on this and like guys coming out of their

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Speaker 8: their cy Young year or guys in their cy Young Year,

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Speaker 8: and we were expecting Schooble to win the Cy Young Year.

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Speaker 8: They don't lose to a team four times very often.

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Speaker 8: And the best kind of comp we could come up

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Speaker 8: with was twenty thirteen Clayton Kershaw, who lost the you know,

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Speaker 8: the Dodgers lost two games he started against the Cardinals

871
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 8: during the regular season, and they lost both times in the Alds,

872
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 8: so that's kind of where you know, and man, they

873
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 8: just crushed Kershaw that year. I don't think I'll do

874
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 8: the same with school. But that's where the territory we're

875
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 8: in right now. It's like you're comparing Scooball to Kershaw,

876
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 8: and that's what you're trying to do is beat him

877
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 8: four times or beat a game that he beat the

878
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 8: team when he starts four times in a season. It's

879
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 8: not simple, but I mean, stranger things have happened.

880
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: Should they even be in this spot?

881
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: We've watched a Tigers lineup that is, in my opinion,

882
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: is putrid. I get it the fact that the Mariner's rotation,

883
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: the Mariners bullpen, they are just running out arm after

884
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: arm after arm, and Tigers have looked listless. And yet

885
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: they're in a spot that is enviable by everybody. Elite

886
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: starter going and you win tonight, you move on. Should

887
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 3: the Mariners even be in this spot?

888
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: No, because I think they should have won Game one.

889
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 8: I don't think there's any way George Kirby should have

890
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 8: pitched the trek school or to carry Carpenter. There was

891
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 8: a bag open if you want to walk him. You

892
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 8: can do that, just don't let that happen. And similar

893
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 8: to the other day, I mean it's three nothing. I

894
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 8: know that you know, Spire and Bizarre, they just weren't

895
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 8: as crisp.

896
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: But I think you.

897
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 8: Know, in that situation, Dan Wilson did a favor for

898
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 8: AJ Hinch by bringing Inspire to face Parker Meadows.

899
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: That was into ten. You know he strikes out thirty

900
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: percent of the time.

901
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 8: You don't need if you want to go bring in Bizarro,

902
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 8: because what happened is is the moment Spier came in,

903
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 8: Jamia Jones came in, and that did them a favor.

904
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 8: You weren't You weren't putting a situation where AJ had

905
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 8: to make a decision between Jami Jones and Kerry Carpenter.

906
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 8: It's no decision with a lefty face in Parker Meadows.

907
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 8: You're going to Jamia Jones regardless of the defense that

908
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 8: Meadows provides. So then all of a sudden, Gabe Spier's

909
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 8: facing back to back writings. Then he gets Carpenter in

910
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 8: another wrighty, that's not what you have Gabe Spier in

911
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 8: there for.

912
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 4: And I know he can get out right hander. So

913
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: I think that one was kind of questionable. The Mayors didn't.

914
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 8: Add after they got the three runs they had basis load,

915
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 8: they only get one. But yeah, I feel like this

916
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 8: series should have been over with. Am I a little

917
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 8: sour because it would have been a lot easier to

918
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 8: drive from Toronto from Detroit to Toronto than flying back

919
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 8: to Seattle.

920
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: But they they, I.

921
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 8: Mean from a talent standpoint, yeah, the Marriners are the

922
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 8: better team. And what happens is when you get to

923
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 8: a game five in a short series and you know

924
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 8: they got their horse going, luck starts to play into

925
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 8: it too. A bad break here, a bad break there,

926
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 8: you know, I mean you look at the other day.

927
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 8: I felt like the Bryce Miller inning where everything went south.

928
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 8: Randio Rosarina has to cut that ball off in left field.

929
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 8: It's happened twice. Bad angle, bad Reid doesn't cut it off.

930
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 8: Let's it get to the gap. Then all of a

931
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 8: sudden it's a double scoring run. You know, if he

932
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 8: cuts it off, if he finds a way to cut

933
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 8: it off, maybe they get the run of the third.

934
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 8: But Dylan Dingler does not get to second base. And

935
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 8: then you can play a little bit, You can match up,

936
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 8: you can do some things. So I think, like that's

937
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 8: the thing is like, once you get into a game five,

938
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 8: the luck component happens. One mistake here, one mistake there.

939
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: You know that happens.

940
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 8: Like even last night you're watching you're watching the Phillies

941
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 8: and the Dodgers. The Phillies had so many opportunities and

942
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 8: they just couldn't and it's game five and you find

943
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 8: a way to lose and you're done. And that's the

944
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 8: difference with the five game series versus the seven. In

945
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 8: a seven, I think the overall talent of the Mariners

946
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 8: wins out regardless of decisions. But in five, you know,

947
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 8: you make one mistake, you have one bad game from

948
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 8: a reliever or something like that, and all of a

949
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 8: sudden you're fighting for your life.

950
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 5: All right, make your best case against Aeric Kratz, who

951
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 5: believes Aaron Judge is going to win the MVP. Why

952
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 5: cal Rawley should be the MVP.

953
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 8: Well, the running joke was the other night cal Rawley,

954
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 8: after Vargas threw the wild pitch that he couldn't block,

955
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 8: he threw one hundred mile per hour sinker in the

956
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 8: dirt that cal went across his body backhanded and blocked

957
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 8: with one leg and glove and right there I said,

958
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, hitting sixty homers is pretty hard. Catching

959
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 8: Carlos Vargas multiple times in a season, on's the aeron judge,

960
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 8: do that?

961
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 6: You know what?

962
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: I mean?

963
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 8: Like the amount of stress that Cal Rawley has put

964
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 8: on himself and his body physically every day.

965
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: Crats should know how many times you get up and

966
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: get down in a nine inning game.

967
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 8: I mean, this is guy's caught more innings than anybody

968
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 8: else in the American League.

969
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: I just think physically what he's done.

970
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 8: The amount of pressure, the amount of time, the amount

971
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 8: of focus that goes into everyone else other than him.

972
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 8: I think that's why. I mean, that's how you measure value.

973
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 8: You know, I was a very mediocre catcher in college

974
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 8: and catching a seven inning game, I felt like I

975
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 8: got hit by a train. So Cal's doing this every

976
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 8: night and catching the best guys in the world. So

977
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 8: I just think, like the amount of influence he has

978
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 8: on the game, beyond his hitting numbers, beyond OPS plus

979
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 8: or ops is something you can't possibly measure, but you

980
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 8: kind of know it. And I mean, I guess to me,

981
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 8: it's like I see an MVP level performance and somebody

982
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 8: joke with me that it's because I spent most of

983
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 8: my early years of my career in Seattle watching bad

984
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 8: catching that when I see good catching, I overvalue it.

985
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 8: But I don't think there's any overvaluing good catching and

986
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 8: production from a catch. I mean, how many guys do

987
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 8: we see now produced from the catcher spot the way?

988
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 4: Not even like cal Rawle.

989
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 8: I mean cal Rale of last year is kind of

990
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 8: like a unicorn hitting thirty five bombs sixty.

991
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I will never see a season like this again.

992
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: You mean Kenji Joe Jama wasn't the best catcher you've

993
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: ever seen?

994
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 6: And go ahead, go ahead.

995
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 4: I go off the list.

996
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 8: I covered Miguelo Levo and Jeff Clement, Jesus Montero, who

997
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 8: I hope is doing better because I know he's in

998
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 8: a bad car accident down in Venezuela.

999
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: I cover a lot of bad catchers.

1000
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, that's why when Mike Xanino, when

1001
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 8: they drafted Mike's Andino, and everybody was upset because you know,

1002
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 8: Zanino was a two hundred hitter. That the amount of

1003
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 8: runs that dude save. And I mean, ask the Tampa

1004
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 8: Bay Rays what they've been looking for since a Nino

1005
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 8: got hurt and retired. Like when you have that that

1006
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 8: guy back there and you can stamp him in and

1007
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 8: he can post.

1008
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 4: I mean, it just makes such a huge difference.

1009
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 6: All right.

1010
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: Well, to make sure KP understands, I think Cow's the MVP.

1011
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Judge wins it. My opinion and who

1012
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: wins it are two different things. But we gotta go

1013
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: to We gotta go to Josh Naylor for my last question.

1014
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: Josh Naylor relaying signs, what what do you like? Can

1015
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 3: can we put this to bed? Is Hinch pissed about it?

1016
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 6: Is?

1017
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: Is it something that's gonna be taken care of tonight

1018
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 3: spring training?

1019
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 6: What do we got on it?

1020
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? AJ didn't seem very upset, you know, but AJ's

1021
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: pretty polished on the podium.

1022
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna lie like he's a writer's dream because

1023
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 8: he can talk forever about anything. But he didn't seem

1024
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 8: too upset about it. I don't think kazy Miies was

1025
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 8: upset or pleased about it. You know, he had a

1026
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 8: few words. But this has been going on. It happened

1027
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 8: to Andres Munos in New York earlier this year. Your

1028
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 8: judge and some guys were signaling pitches and Munyos was

1029
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 8: leaving his glove open so they could see the grips

1030
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 8: on his pitches. And your facing Ondres Munno is knowing

1031
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 8: that slider's coming is pretty useful. So I don't know

1032
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 8: how much was pure location how much was gamesmanship. But

1033
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 8: dominic can Zone was right after him and he was

1034
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 8: signaling as well.

1035
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 4: And I think in this.

1036
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 8: Situation, you know, you have to you have to do

1037
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 8: whatever it takes. Sure, could you be a little more subtle, Yeah,

1038
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 8: But I mean, let's be honest, as Josh Naylor ever

1039
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 8: come off as a subtle dude when it comes to.

1040
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: That kind of stuff. And I'll say this about Josh.

1041
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 8: Naylor, and it's true, he picks it up from watching

1042
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 8: the games, like the lost art of watching games. You know,

1043
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 8: you're not looking at the iPad and everything else. He's

1044
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 8: in there watching games, and like he picks stuff up

1045
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 8: while he's watching the game, whether it's from the dugout

1046
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 8: on base, you know, he sees all that stuff. And

1047
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 8: I mean, credit to him. Yeah, could you do it

1048
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 8: a little bit more subtly? Probably? You know, when we

1049
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 8: saw Dingler moving the locations around a little bit and

1050
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 8: trying to fake out the locations, and I don't know

1051
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 8: how much of it was real and what wasn't. It

1052
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 8: certainly bothered Casey Mice when he was pitching. So I

1053
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 8: don't think Josh is gonna change. I don't think anything's

1054
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 8: gonna make Josh Naylor change anything. So from there, we'll

1055
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 8: we'll see. But it'll be interesting tonight.

1056
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 7: You know.

1057
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 8: In the old days, there yeah, heaters in your ribs.

1058
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 8: I just don't think the postseas are going.

1059
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 6: To see that. Now.

1060
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: You might see it next season, or like krat said,

1061
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: sometime in twenty twenty six, when it matters less in

1062
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: a different moment. And I don't believe Hinch for a second,

1063
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: or even if you do. It might not have bothered him,

1064
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: but it bothered some of the players. And we also

1065
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 2: saw what happened later on in the game. I mean

1066
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: the Tigers lit up. I'm not saying that that was

1067
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: what caused it, but I think some Tigers were pretty

1068
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: pissed about it.

1069
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: That's me.

1070
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 4: They're certainly aware about it.

1071
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 8: Right now, they're going to be discussing and I'm sure

1072
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 8: they discussed it on the flight and discussing it pregame.

1073
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 8: Make sure, Hey, close up your glove. Okay, don't signal

1074
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 8: too soon. We saw that with cal Rawley too, that

1075
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 8: they felt like the Dodgers were tipping some and even

1076
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 8: the Astros were, we're tipping some pitches and kyl Rawley

1077
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 8: started showing the glove and his target a lot.

1078
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 4: Later because of it.

1079
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 8: You make the adjustment and there are you know, you're

1080
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 8: trying to win here and it isn't illegal. I mean,

1081
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 8: I think that's probably probably one reason why AJ Hinch

1082
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 8: can't talk about it or be hypercritical of it, because

1083
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 8: it'd be a little hypocritical.

1084
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 4: If he did, considering who he managed during those years.

1085
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: Exactly right. He has to watch it a little more,

1086
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: which is understandable too.

1087
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Speaker 4: Ryan.

1088
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: Enjoy it, man, It's gonna be awesome. What a scene.

1089
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: I know you've covered this team for a minute and

1090
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: this is the big moment. So thanks for joining us before.

1091
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time.

1092
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 6: Dude.

1093
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks.

1094
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 8: I've had a lot of AJ in my life. I'm

1095
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 8: not going to say five games of AJ. It's a lot,

1096
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 8: you know.

1097
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: One more AJ and he's going to be bringing this

1098
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: is his last game of the year, so yes, we

1099
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: apologize in advance.

1100
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: But I don't feel bad for you.

1101
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: We have him on just about every day, so I

1102
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: sit next to him for half of my life. Thanks Ryan,

1103
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: doctor soon dude, coming back for a quick minute here.

1104
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: So Mike G's a big Cups fan and he's been

1105
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: in the chat. We've been going back and forth.

1106
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: Two things.

1107
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: One he said we were not listening closely enough to

1108
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: the broadcast because it was in the very beginning of

1109
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: the game.

1110
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: And I actually will take the l on that one.

1111
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: He's probably right.

1112
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: We're doing a postgame show, and you know, they were

1113
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: flipping from the one game to the other, so there

1114
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: was a little bit of crossover there, so I I

1115
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: was looking at it, but I guess I missed. You know,

1116
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: apparently the broadcast was picking up the Freddy thing and

1117
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: it was a huge deal and it's all they're talking

1118
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: about in Chicago.

1119
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: So okay, that's fair. Number two.

1120
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: Caid, Yeah, exactly, not a national story, more of a

1121
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: local thing. Cool Caid Horton, he said, would you try

1122
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: and fudge the roster get someone hurt to put him

1123
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: in for Game five? Because he said that he's pain

1124
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: free now. And I looked into the story a little

1125
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: bit more and he did say he's pain free, but

1126
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: he said really not trying to still push it. But

1127
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: for right now, I'm feeling good. So I don't know

1128
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: if he's definitely ready, And I don't think that's going

1129
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 2: to happen because I'm assuming there's got to be all

1130
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: kinds of throwing programs and things going on. But maybe

1131
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: he will be a factor in the next round, which

1132
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: would be huge for them if that's the case.

1133
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: Not pudging the roster, as somebody who's been on the

1134
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: phanomi l they're not fudging the playoff roster. You gotta

1135
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna go through a lot more channels to be

1136
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: able to pudge a roster in the postseason.

1137
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 9: I wanna get hurt, can come back, fracture Griff Robert,

1138
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 9: All right, let's slap quick crats, hats.

1139
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 6: Nice, that's it. I'm here with my buddy K Pizzle

1140
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 6: Drizzle from the Sizzle.

1141
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: I have a question for k Pizzle.

1142
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: Skip Schumacher was just introduced to as Rangers manager. We

1143
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: all saw that one coming. But are you excited for

1144
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: him to lead the charge?

1145
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 6: Now?

1146
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 5: Am I excited for?

1147
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 6: What? For? Skin?

1148
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 5: I'm not there anymore.

1149
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Skip.

1150
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 5: I think I think I know, Yeah, I'm excited for Skip.

1151
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 5: I like Skip a lot as a human. He was

1152
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 5: around a ton. I think he got kind of the

1153
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 5: short end of the stick in Miami. And you know,

1154
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 5: he's in a good place. He's in a good place.

1155
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 5: See he's you know, took a year off, learned the organization.

1156
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 5: I think he's the right guy for the job considering

1157
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 5: what they're talking about. Obviously they have a lot of

1158
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 5: big contracts they have, but they're gonna have to fill

1159
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 5: that roster with a lot of younger guys to to

1160
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 5: kind of bring payroll down. I think Skip has a

1161
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 5: history what he did in Miami getting the best out

1162
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: of those young guys. So I think he's the right

1163
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 5: guy for the right I think he's the right guy

1164
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 5: at the right time where this organization is heading.

1165
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: I didn't see the press conference, but saying you want

1166
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: to establish a winning culture for a team that won

1167
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: two years ago, Skip, you might want that one back.

1168
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: Like obviously I love Skip.

1169
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 5: But I but I think that's been kind of the

1170
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 5: big I think that's kind of been the big issue there.

1171
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 5: There's been it's been an excuse year after year, we

1172
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 5: want a World Series, but the culture isn't about winning

1173
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 5: right now, so I think I think what he's saying

1174
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 5: is valid.

1175
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 3: I agree, and he did it in Miami with no personnel.

1176
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: It's a thing. It might be a generic comment, but

1177
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 3: I agree with KP.

1178
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not a winning team. It's a culture that

1179
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 5: he created, so I think it's fair.

1180
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,399
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