WEBVTT - Hangin' With The 'Boys: Will Anyone Step Up? 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.040 Before listening, ask a doctor if your heart is healthy 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:09.440 enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys, 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.840 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at The Star 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:18.880 in Frisco. Now your host Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:26.920 Shannon Gross Wednesday from the Star And in the words 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.480 of Nate Newton, I said, what y'all want to talk 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:33.159 about today? And Nate said, who cares, Let's just do 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:37.600 the show. So we're gonna do the show Man showtime. Yeah. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.680 I've been uh, I've been very vocal Shannon and I 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.280 like it. I don't call him everything except Kurt today, 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.360 would you got I'm glad. Once I got on the show, 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.280 I called him Kurt, thank you. I walked by his 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.280 office and I had an extra cook. I said, you 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.760 want to cookie, Dirk, and the young lady behind him 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.760 started laughing. I said, I call you everything but Kurt. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.680 She said, yeah, because I thought you called him jerk. Wow. No, ma'am, 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.600 I did not call him that. I would not insult 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:07.840 him like that. I have gotten next to him. I 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.280 may call that not Hey, just make sure you don't 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.600 switch that r out with another continant. We'd be in 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:23.800 bad shape there, Kurt, what's up? What's up? Dirt? What's up? Dirk? Dirk, 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:30.440 Kurt whatever, he's Kurt, Kurt Daniels. Oh Man, not Kurt. Now. 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.800 One thing about Kurt. Uh. He made me feel like 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.440 I was in a claim at the insurance company a 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.600 banking company because I called him and uh, he should 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.600 have put on this phone. I would call you within 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:48.200 twenty four hours because he five seven hours later. Sorry, 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:53.280 what's up? Name? I say? Who is this is? Oh? 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.880 You know what? I just remember you called me on 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.120 Monday and I never called you back. We's not called 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.600 you back? Yeah, you did no talking back. So he 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.040 got he got some equity. You have to. I was 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:05.720 in him. I was in a meeting and I plat 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:09.200 forgot to call you back until it he'll just talk. Yeah. Wow. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.800 But it's just fun, man. Just I'm ready to do 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.560 this show. I see I see some daylight. It's not 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.600 a great amount of light, you know, but I see 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.240 some daylight. You all right, do me? Do me a 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:23.960 favor for everybody that's doom and gloom and thinks there's 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.040 no chance in hell we make the playoffs. There's no 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.519 chance we can beat the Eagles at eight and one 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:33.120 coming in to our stadium. What what's the daylight that 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:37.720 you see that gives you hope that I need some 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.000 of this because more I look at the Eagle stats, 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:44.240 the warst I feel, you know what. I listen to 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:48.320 guys that have talked to people in Philly. Right, I'm 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.440 gonna tell you how bad it is and how hated 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:55.320 we are in Philly. It's from the point where we 0:02:55.520 --> 0:03:00.160 don't matter. So even if we beat the Cowboys, it's 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.560 it's still the greatest thing in the world. Can you 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:07.560 believe that some fans like, hey man, that's shoe in 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.840 and then some fans like, uh, if we beat them, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.919 we're gonna definitely be on top of the world. We're 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.799 gonna definitely be the Broad Street Bullets, you know. And 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:23.120 it's just amazing how with our fans we lose. It's 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.760 the end of the world. We got the dumbest coaching staff, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:30.000 our players can't play, we can't function. Uh, we listened 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.200 to we stopped listening to every show. What's uping that 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:37.520 would accept hanging with the cowboy? You know, Sir Douglas 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.000 don't even sound good anymore with his hits and cuts. 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.720 I mean, did him hear from him yesterday until like 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.840 the last ten minutes here today, did you hear it? 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:50.960 Certain here? But when we win, oh my god, didn't 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:56.400 the coaches contract? You know? The bo Yeah, man, witness 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:01.040 the best ever. And you know, even even Chad. I say, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.280 if we was to beat philadeph and Chad screen was 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.120 to get in the game and do some nice, some 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.600 nice things, I'm in chaces back. Man. Oh about you 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.200 know everybody that was hating on him this way? Yeah, 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:12.760 I knew he just had a bad day. Yeah, he 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:18.240 just had a bad day. Man. So but me, I'm 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.680 not gonna I can't allow myself to fall prey. And 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.760 I've said it in the last two days and I 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.159 said this day and I hope to say it again. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.000 I called into the show. Y'all. Just set the time, 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.560 and I give you five minutes of funk men, and 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.480 let me get out of the hood. I give you 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:39.240 five minutes of cheering up. You know what I'm saying. Uh, 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.680 listen to this right here, Listen this right here. Let 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:46.800 me let me say it right. These kids I've grown man, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.200 whoever I'm old enough to call them kids. And I'm 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:53.680 talking about the Eagles. They have twenty five sacks. Yep, 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:58.640 we have like round what twenty five sacks? Twenty eight sacks? 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:03.960 We got three more sacks in them. Guess what what 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.479 they missed? They lost their middle linebacker. We lost our will. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.599 They lost their left tackle. We lost our left tackle. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:17.160 They didn't have a so called super running back. They 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.720 was doing it by committed. We decided to do it 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.599 by committed. This week they got a Jie. Now that's 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:26.479 a different guy. He's a different maker. Uh. For for 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:33.320 a long time, Uh, that wide receivers Agrila was doing nice. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:37.920 What was the other kids name? Jeff No ashean Jeffers 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:42.160 couldn't get no trash. What I'm trying to say is 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:47.279 they found a way to win, Whether the coaches schemed 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.160 them up to help them win, whether the players did 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.400 a little extra work to put them self in the 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:57.719 position to win. What we don't have and what we 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.800 gotta get here, and it's gonna may still take another year, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:10.360 it's maturity mentally and physical maturity and some depth. Yeah, 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:14.640 that's the difference in Yeah, we cannot, we cannot think 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:21.919 and nobody toots Sean lee Horn like Nate knew, I 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.680 call him to terminator. He processes everything. He's thinking ahead 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.320 of time. You know, y'all remember the movie when when 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.960 the young lady thought she was talking to a mom' 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.200 you see terminator and the young yeah, mom went overhead 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:43.080 this hotel. Okay, dear, you be safe and make sure 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.119 you lock the dough. And then when they cut away 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:49.200 and they showed the terminator talking like it like a mom. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.640 You get what I'm saying. Because he he processes everything. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.680 He thinking what the quarterback think, he's thinking what the 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:03.120 running backs think. He's anticipating. Well, when Sean Lee leaves, 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:09.560 I don't need for David Irvin, DeMarcus Lawrence. I'm talking 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:11.360 about the front for I don't need for you to 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.840 get out of character. Just make sure you had the 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:19.800 right play, play your gap. Make it easier for Hitchings 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.520 to come downhill. Make it easier for Durant to come downhill. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:25.760 Make it easier for the guy with the names we 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.720 can't even pronounce. We got in the trade the other day. Oh, 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.040 march Lillard, march Lillard. Make it easy for these guys, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.200 these three or four guys that are named are good enough, 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:43.560 more than good enough to do their job. Now, Yes, 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.800 we're gonna ask that you strain a few more plays, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:53.640 but that's what you have to do it. You don't 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:59.280 question a mother's love for her kid. She's gonna do 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:04.040 what's necessary. Area. You don't question your love for your teammates. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.640 You do what's necessary. You're supposed to be able to 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.800 look Shaun Lee and is I hey, Sean boom boom, 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.720 you get dat. I'll keep it warm for your dog, 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.400 But I don't feel to make some plays. Do you 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.360 think there's something too when he's in there that he's 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.160 so good, Like you said, he processes everything so fast 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.680 and he's so smart that there's a comfort level from 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.800 the guys around him that they know, okay, if if 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.120 if I do my job or if I'm a little 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.800 bit out of place, he's gonna let me know before 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.640 the play goes in. When he's gone, they start overthinking like, yeah, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.120 where am I supposed to be? What am I doing? 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:39.679 What's this guy doing what? And when he's in there, 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.320 it's kind of like they can do a little less. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:47.600 You can fix their mistakes. Yeah, what it is they 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.280 don't have to be more than what they are. Sean 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:56.120 Lee is uh is rare. I heard somebody said that 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.280 on the radio or other. He's rare. He's unique. You 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.120 don't You don't see many guys that can look at film. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.080 I know a lot of guys that look at a 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.360 lot of film, but they ain't processing what he's processing. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:14.560 They ain't putting the They mind, they mind, intil their bodies. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.600 You know, they can see, but they can't react to 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.400 what they see. He believes what he see. He believes 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.480 a little technique. He'll probably look at the film and 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.120 he'll probably when you called Sean Lee in there looking 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:31.000 at film out the six o'clock, it's probably something something 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.480 that he saw in the guard or tackle in a 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.640 certain formation. They did something and he wanted to just 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.400 make sure that what he's was seeing was for real 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.800 when he made this movement. When this guy does it, 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:45.959 I'm gonna tell you he used to be good at that. 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:50.959 Byron Evans for Philadelphia. I don't care how I used 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.160 to fake like I was gonna pull on certain plays. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.719 So he can look at look at me and say 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.440 they're gonna pull it, they gonna pull. I can fake hit, 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:09.960 but when I got rid of to pull next. It's 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:16.559 something about certain guys that that that special. But when 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:21.720 you had that special guy. As a coach you have 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.360 you you have to try to find transfer some of 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:28.719 that to some of the other guys because, and I've 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.920 been speaking frankly, when you ain't gonna have a guy 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:38.120 with maybe twelve games or less, you gotta understand that 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.880 somebody's got to take his place, and it can't be 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:48.760 the same. Well, he's just a unique guy. No, No, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.680 we still got four games we got to play without him. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.680 We maybe got five games. Now he missed only one 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:59.160 game up with the last hamstrain too, So now we 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.480 may be missed in the midst three because we got 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.320 three three games in less than fifteen days. So you 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:12.200 that can't be your rallying cry. Wait till Sean gets back, 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.160 because we've heard that. I think what two and a 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:19.319 half years ago, Hey, when Tony get back, that can't 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:25.240 be your rallying cry. I told Phillips, Rob Phillips, and 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:31.280 I told Mickey at about the third week and I 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.280 and I think, Robs, yeah, they're just waiting on Tony 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:38.679 to get back. I said, well, let's stop doing the show. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.680 Let's just counsel all the sponsors. And oh we can't 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.760 do that, man, We even show must go on. Okay, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:56.200 the football game is ain't gonna stop. Bro And guess what, Philadelphia, 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:03.520 what they have bar and contracts is gonna be the 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.920 same in the last week of the season, off season 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:13.360 and going into the next season, it ain't changing. You 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:19.040 get a few different players, but they core players are staying. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.480 What you call it, Wentz. I don't know how, but 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.559 he may get a little bit better. Yeah, I don't 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.400 know how, but he may get a little bit better. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.440 I was talking to Moose Johnson this morning, him and 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.679 him and Rick Gossin, and I'm gonna tell you something, Beard, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.559 I'm gonna tell you something. Kurt got his name right. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.280 They said, well, you know they don't have a running game, 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.840 and you know you don't have Tyron Smith, and you 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.880 know you don't. I say, Fellas, I said, nah, no, 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.719 no, no no, no, no, no, don't do that. Don't do that. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:04.720 I say we either as players gotta be better. Our 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.559 coaches gotta scheme us into us a little bit of success, 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:13.520 and we gotta go from that point. Because Jimmy Johnson 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.440 told us one time we was grinding, we was crying. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.800 I think I said this Monday, we was, man, we 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.959 need to run the ball. You know, we lost the game, right, 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.079 we need to run the ball. We only ran the ball, 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.720 you know, fifteen twenty time and Jimmy just stopped us cold. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.800 Look listen our eyes to a man. And you want 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.199 to get physical, right, yeah, sir, we want to get physical. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:42.240 He's where coach Turner called forty five passing plays. You 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.520 better get as physical as you need to be because 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.800 that is what we run it and that is what 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.200 you better execute. Because now if you got a problem 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.680 with it, just come see me. We kind of looked 0:13:55.679 --> 0:14:01.520 at each other like then we have guaranteed contracts. I'm like, hey, 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.959 they want to pass, I'm not home with See, it 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.840 comes a point where you got a scheme a few 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.319 of you guys to success. Not me helpful to me. 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.160 Some guys gotta be take it personal. I mean that's 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.680 maybe the key, because I mean, okay, we're we're without league. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.560 Who's gonna fill that void? Justin Durrant, you know we 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.880 got it. He's not he's older, he's not gonna be great. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.920 You know what you seem to having. Jalen Smith, he's 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.640 they both they both thirty fifteen play guy. Yeah, I 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.760 mean they package guys right now. I mean justin marsh Litard. 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.760 We don't know what we got from him. He's young. 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.200 I mean all these guys, we're nine games in. We 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.920 know what they are. How can they will may have 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.760 a little bit more to give. Well, let's hope, I mean, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.480 but we want them to play better. But yeah, can 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.880 I mean, do they have it? Does it? Now? Come? 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.560 It's about the scheme they have to It's not it's 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.360 about the coaching. It's about both we know, but we 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.320 know we have in the players. That's my word. Yeah, 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.560 I'm with you on which you. I mean, what how 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.760 can they I mean, they're not gonna go from Dnnian 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:08.120 Wilson to Sean Lee. It's just not there. So I mean, 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.200 how do we how do they fix it? They just 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.480 can't go play better. It's got to be a scheme 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.200 thing to me, and how does that happen? I guess 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:21.680 you know, you have to ask yourself what I what 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:28.080 I prefer Damien at, Mike h Hitchens at, Saint at 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.920 Will and and other other guys at the you know, 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:40.800 at the strong side, because you can't put guys out 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.840 there that don't know what they're doing. Yeah, that's first 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.560 of all. If you don't know and confident in what 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.960 you're doing. You don't need to be out there because 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.800 more quarterbacks and running backs. And why Resly was been 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:59.120 hurt by blown assignments than anything our lack of effort 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.480 because you would think too much, so you slow down. 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:12.120 If you watch Philadelphia's defense, are you watch the Rams defense? 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.720 They are fast, But these are the same guys that 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.640 played a year ago. You watched the Atlanta defense. They 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.680 weren't playing that fast two weeks ago, but they were 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:25.560 fast against That's because the coaches schemed it up. They're 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:29.960 real comfortable in what they're doing and they believe. This 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.040 is the funny thing about it. And I hate to 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:36.040 go back, but but I give a comparison last year 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:40.280 this time. But we well, we well we worried about 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:46.360 guys in their angles on in our secondary not as much, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.920 I mean not at all, not because they knew what 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.600 to do, they knew where to be, and they were supreme. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.960 When you played with supreme confidence, you get there. YEA 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:02.920 A guy gotta rep his that you can get there 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.879 a lot of times to all Nate as he thought, okay, 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.119 we're here to have been a first round of second round. No, 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:15.360 because shouldn't Anthony Brown be a better after a year 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:19.480 of playing in this league, shouldn't he be better? Well, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.480 he had an edge. He wanted to show everybody in 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.040 the world. Hey, I'm Anthony Brown. This is my world 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:29.200 over here, this left cornerback. Well, now his technique slipping why, 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.760 I don't know, I don't know, but guess what. You 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.359 gotta get that edge back, right, that's the difference. Last 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.240 year he played with great speed, great hustle. This shit 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.600 like he like looking in the backfield like like he 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:45.320 a second slow. You gotta you gotta find that hunger 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.800 that takes you over the top. I think part of 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:51.040 that's not having that veteran help around him. I didn't 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:58.960 want to say it together in this situation. I know 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.879 it's part ideal, but could you take a guy like 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.199 Cavon Frazier who can hit, he's a tackler, he can 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:06.680 you know, he's got more speed than a lot of 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.240 those linebackers and move him up to cover some of 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:13.679 what Sean Lee did only in nickel situations, probably, but 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:18.639 just your base defense. It's hog gonna hog. They're killing yeah, 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.840 you know, with hag gonna hog and everybody feeding the 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.240 hurt him, don't hurt him, don't kill him till after tomorrow. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.080 He's coming, He's coming on the show to morrow. Let 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:32.080 me let me say this right here. And Cavlon Fraser 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.480 is a perfect example. They gave him a few packages 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.080 earlier in the year. He kind of didn't line up right, 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.600 he kind of didn't make the tackle. But did he did? 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.000 He did he boys head? Oh my god, did he 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:44.919 tuck his tail? You know? He went, came back and 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:50.439 out caused two special teams turnovers. Yeah. That that that 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.240 is what I'm That is what I'm hoping that these 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:59.440 guys that kept me and kept me Kevin Golden, John Geezick, 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:05.040 and I can't think who else was another guard. We 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.840 were all kind of close together as far as how 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:13.199 coaches want to start us, and we all had our 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:18.080 strength and weaknesses. But I wasn't gonna let Kevin Gordan 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.200 beat me out. I wasn't gonna let And it's called 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.840 competition within here. Ain't got nothing to do with you, 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.119 and it ain't got nothing to do with you. He 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:29.320 got some to do with me and you you have 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.280 to have that in testing the fort two where you 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:36.280 can't be beat you know, it could be Jerome Brown 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:37.920 lining up in front of us, and that's one of 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:42.560 the greatest Devons linement I ever played against. He can 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:46.560 line up against Geezing, he can line up against Kevin, 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.840 he can line up against me. And I knew I 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.120 had a health of a mind of respect for him. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:56.600 But for my job, I'm gonna win today. I'm gonna 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.879 win today. I gotta win because I can't give it 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:03.600 to my job. And they ain't had nothing to do it, 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:05.680 no coaches. And I'm gonna tell you why. I know 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:07.000 it didn't have nothing to do it, no coaches. We 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.320 got time. I'm gonna tell you, tell you why. I 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.280 was in the seventh I was in eighth, ninth grade 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:20.000 at my junior high school. Kevin Lewis, forgive me. I'm 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:21.560 not because I'm not Michael Jordan. I don't want to 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.800 say I made it off Kevin. We was up under this, 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:29.160 we had this, this, this, these bars where it went 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.320 across this way. He had come in up under them. 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:35.240 It's about this tall and if you and it had 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.480 and it was a square, and if you went up high, 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.320 if you went up high, you got pushed back into 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.600 that bar, and it hurt you. Back. Coach was a 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:47.960 brutal back then. He was teaching you how to get 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:53.960 up high. So I only played with it, you know, 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.399 the direct leagues up there to that point. And so 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:00.919 I watched a few guys go before me, and I 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.760 guess because I was just as big as Kevin, and 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:08.959 Kevin played in the eighth grade. The coach said, hey, Newton, 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:12.320 get in him. Yeah, you we'll see what you got. 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.239 You know, because I didn't play that year before, they 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:19.399 wanted me to play. And Kevin's gonna bring your back. 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:21.919 You know, if you get up high, Kevin and that 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.160 register Okay, if I stayed lower and I get off 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:28.119 this rock, I'm gonna get Kevin. And the worst I 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.240 was thinking, he ain't gonna be in my back. Well, 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.800 I can get up high. Well, I got off on 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:40.280 the snap count and I bent his back, and the 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.280 coach and Kevin got mad. One fight you and I 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.480 looked at him like and the coach said, you can't 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:52.520 do that again. Well the second time I did it 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:57.840 almost took him over that ball. And when I got through, 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.920 I checked myself and what I felt, what I found 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.640 out about me was you can't just challenge me straight 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.960 up as a man, and I don't react. You can't 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:12.359 do that to me. And I've always had that. It 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.200 happened to me a couple of times the college, which 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.240 you have time for the stories happened to me a 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.040 couple of times in pros. You can't challenge me like 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.080 that because it's something within me that comes up in 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:25.160 me saying, Nah, you can't do me like that. That's 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:28.480 something you can't teach. Yeah, so that's why I one drafted, 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:34.399 that's one one drafted. They but but but I think yea, yeah, 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:38.960 no to self, don't challenge name. But I don't know 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.760 if you know these guys now, can can Anthony Brown 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:46.639 find that that dog that doesn't get beat? You know? 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:50.440 He can find it. It's I don't can't find it. Yes, 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:57.200 he can. It's each player how to check himself at 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.600 a point in his career, whether it's young, whether you're young, 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.120 whether you're in the middle of your career, whether you're 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.640 at the end of your career, you gotta check yourself. 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.879 I remember, man, towards the latter part of my year, 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.840 had went to five straight Pro Bowls. Then I missed one. 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.680 I was getting older, and I hurt my knee and 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.280 mister Jones challenged me, hey man, you can't go out 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:19.160 of town. You know you're gonna stay here and work 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.320 with Brown, and Brown didn't play like, Man, we can 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.280 get you back to the Pro Bowl. That's that's going. 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.520 He just set the gold himself and I work every day, 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.800 every day, every day, every day. Man. Next thing you know, 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:33.560 I'm landing there six months and I'm laying they're just 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:35.720 chilling in the training room or with Valala Ranch. You know, 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:42.080 just had had a nice eight piece whatever and enriched 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:44.320 that room for Cap and said big nude. I said, yeah, 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:47.840 it was all rich. You made the Pro Bowl. Brother. 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:53.120 It's all about challenging. It's all about who you are 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.359 and what you're about. But now I would repeat this 0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:00.560 because I feel so bad for this kid. I'm Chaz 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.679 Green and I never came close to that mini sacks 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.000 being put on me. I don't know what that kid 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.400 is thinking. I know his body language said I don't 0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:15.080 want no more. Yeah. Yeah, that was one thing we 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.359 talked to Garrett. And this kind of goes to what 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.800 it's the confidence thing. Now, what does a guy like 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.280 him do or what does a guy like Anthony Brown 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:24.800 or Jalen Smith do he's kind of be in the 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.760 same position where he's Jayalen don't have to worry. But 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:31.199 he struggled, you know at times. And is that confidence? 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.880 Do you set him down and kind of build him 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:36.480 back up or you just we talked a little bit 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:38.120 about it yesterday. Do you throw him back out there 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:42.719 and right and what kind of He didn't really address him, 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:43.879 but he's kind of like you have to put him 0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.240 in the best situation and that kind of stuff. So 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.000 I wish he'd been a little bit somebody know. He 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:52.959