1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. I am in New York. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Fox has the Yankees Red Sox series opener tonight. But 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: we're not just going to talk about the Yankees in 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Red Sox. We've got realignment, We've got Kyle Tucker, We've 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: got dudes in dorks. We've got your questions as well. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: So Alana, greetings, I hope you're doing well. 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: It's good to see you. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: You're in New York, I'm in Boston. Do we have 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: a rivalry? I am not sure, but Ken, the rivalry returns. 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: How much juice is there with this series beginning? 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Alana, It's a really good question, and I like the 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: way Chris Kershner put it in The Athletic this morning 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: in his mailbag. He thinks that this is the most 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: meaningful meeting between the Yankees and Red Sox since the 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Wildcard game, and I would tend to agree. 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Both currently in wildcard position, Yankees at the top of 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: the standings based on their recent run, and the Yankees 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: have closed by winning seven of eight too with in 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: four games of the Toronto Blue Jays in the Al East, 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: so things are heating up. The Red Sox need to 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of start getting going again. They're three to seven 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: in the last ten if not played well of late. 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: They've made some moves in advance of this series, some 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: pretty interesting moves. They send down Isaiah Campbell, bringing Richard Fitz. Now, 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Richard Fitz has been a starter his whole career, but 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: it appears for now the Socks are going to use 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: him out of the bullpen at least in this series. 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: And then just today it was reported that the Socks 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: also have designated Abraham Toro for assignment. He gave them 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: some good playing time at first base until kind of 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: fading after the All Star break, and they've brought back 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: David Hamilton. Now, David Hamilton gives them additional speed for 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: this series so they can pressure the Yankees. And David 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: Hamilton also plays second base, and perhaps that will enable 36 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: the Socks to move to Don Rafaela playing more in 37 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: center field, where he is so brilliant. Rafaela has struggled offensively. 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: Perhaps it's related to moving back to the infield. I 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: don't know, but this is going to be a really 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: interesting series for Surolana. 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: Does it solve their issue? 42 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: Though? 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: At first base, ken we're talking about the Boston Red Sox. 44 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: Obviously there was a platoon situation there between Abraham Toro 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: and Romey Gonzalez, especially when you know there was a 46 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 3: left hander on the hill. Rome Gonzalez, though, is starting 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: to play against right handers as well. Rob Refsnyder is 48 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: on the il. What is the plan for the Socks 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 3: at first. 50 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: Well, the signing of Nathaniel Low changes everything for the 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Red Sox and that really is what led to the 52 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: move with Toro. So the other night, Low at the 53 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: game tying home run in the ninth inning, it would 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: have been a huge moment if the Red Sox had 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: won that game. They did not, So now going forward, 56 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: they've got Low, They've got Rome Gonzalez in the mixed. 57 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Roman Gonzalez also play second. Once ref Schneider is healthy, 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: he'll be in the equation as well. What they are 59 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: clearly trying to do here as we enter the final 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: six weeks of the season is put their best team 61 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: on the field, and that is the goal here and 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: with these moves, that is clearly the intention, and it's 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see the lineup tonight. It's 64 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see how this plays out 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: going forward, both at first base, at second base, and 66 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: in center field. There shouldn't be a both there. There's 67 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: three positions, all three of those positions. 68 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: And you know, Roman Anthony ken is going to be 69 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: in that lineup for the Red Sox, a big extension 70 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: for him. He wrote about it currently in the Athletic 71 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: This kid is way beyond his years in terms of 72 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: maturity and specifically played discipline. 73 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I wrote about Alana. And it's interesting 74 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: to me that this kid just turned twenty one in 75 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: May and is unphased by everything that he has encountered 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: so far. And I am sure quite certain he will 77 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: be unphased by playing at Yankee Stadium. He's going to 78 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: be a centerpiece of this rivalry for the next eight 79 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: or nine years at least, and Yankee fans, I'm sure 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: are going to come to dislike him. But it's hard 81 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: to dislike this guy. He's kind of quiet on the field, 82 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: doesn't show much emotion at all, just plays really well, 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: really high level, and yes, played discipline. In this column, 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: I wrote Alex Cora compared him waiting, compare him to 85 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds. He said, I can't compare him to Barry Bonds, 86 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: but he kind of thought maybe like an early Wan Soto. 87 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: And that's high praise obviously for Roman Anthony. 88 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: And I love the fact that you talked to Alex 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: kra about this and he said that when they told 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: Roman Anthony Ken that he was going to start the 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: season in Triple A, he shook Alex Cora's hand. He said, 92 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: I'll see you soon, and Alex corr was like, I'm 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: sure you will, and sure enough, Roman Anthony had to 94 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: wait until June. But it's been a good change ever since. 95 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: Aaron Boone and Aaron Judge, what more can you tell 96 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: us about the disagreement, if you will, in the throwing 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: ability of Aaron Judge right now? 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: Well, it seems that Aaron Boone, when he said that 99 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: Judge might not throw the way he normally throws for 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, was kind of getting ahead 101 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: of himself, and Judge quickly corrected him. I don't know 102 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: that this is going to be any issue. Those two 103 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: are very close. But the real question is when does 104 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge get back into the out field. And I 105 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: don't know that it will happen this series. I would 106 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: not be surprised if it did. He has been throwing, 107 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: and clearly, when you're playing with some kind of elbow issue, 108 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be a little bit dicey at times. 109 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: But fully, the full expectation of the Yankees, I should say, 110 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: is that he will be back in right field. Then 111 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: you have judge and right, Grisham and center, Bellinger and left. 112 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: That's a really good defensive outfield and that's where the 113 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Yankees are heading with this. 114 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the New York Yankees a 115 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 3: little bit more. Can their schedule stiffens beginning this weekend? Obviously, 116 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: the Red Socks are trying to make the postseason team. 117 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: The Yankees obviously are doing the same. It's not going 118 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: to get much easier for them going forward. 119 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: It won't for this particular period, but going forward totally. 120 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: When you look at Fangrafts and the remaining strength of schedule, 121 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: they actually have the Yankees as the easiest remaining strength 122 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: of schedule based on a couple of different factors. Now, 123 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: other websites Alana don't have them with the easiest, but 124 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: it's not that bad, and they end the season with 125 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: a pretty easy schedule. With a number of non contenders. 126 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: So the Red Sox after this series, play I believe 127 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: five straight series against non contenders and they're going to 128 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: have some different teams that they play to that are 129 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: more competitive, so well the Yankees. The Yankees play each 130 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: of the division leaders one series each remaining this season. 131 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: So it's funny we talk about schedule all the time. 132 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: I talk about it constantly, but it really depends on 133 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: which teams are playing the best at that particular time. Now, 134 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: it certainly helped the Yankees to beat up on these 135 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: three sellers as they did in these last three series, 136 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: but they've got to play well to win games. We 137 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: know that, We've seen that with them, So that really 138 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: is their challenge here to play at a high crisp level, 139 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: something that they haven't always done, regardless of who the 140 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: opponent is. 141 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about that. 142 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to see how many teams 143 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: in the Al East can get into the postseason. As 144 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 3: far as that picture is concerned, Let's talk about another 145 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: topic here, unfair territory with Ken Rosenthal where there is 146 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: a lot to unpack, and that is realignment and a 147 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: lot of folks have been talking about this. Ken for 148 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: a long time. 149 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: What is the latest? 150 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: The latest day is Rob Manford went on ESPN Sunday 151 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: Night Baseball and of course talked about the possibility of expansion, 152 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: which would lead to realignment. Now it's important to note 153 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: as Jason Starke did this morning in The Athletic in 154 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: a really good article that gave a lot of context 155 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: to the situation. Basically, Jason starts by saying this isn't close. 156 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: None of it is close, not expansion, not realignment, and not, 157 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: as he mentions here, the possibility of the schedule shrinking. 158 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: And Jason makes some very good points in that article 159 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: about why the schedule could shrink if the sport indeed 160 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: goes to thirty two teams, That too, is a discussion 161 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: to come. But the realignment conversation is one that got 162 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: fans really excited or I would say intrigued, because obviously 163 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: it would lead to major implactions. It might lead to 164 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: the sport looking unlike the way it has looked for 165 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: quite some time now. So there have been a couple 166 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: of proposals thrown out there. Let's get into them, all right. 167 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: So if you think about the proposal from Jim Bowden 168 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: two years ago, let's look at that one first, because 169 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: again this has been talked about for quite some time, 170 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: and there's a bunch of realignment when it comes to 171 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: where teams are going. But moreover, where are the new 172 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: teams going to be housed? 173 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Right? 174 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: Is it going to be Nashville? Is it going to 175 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: be Charlotte? Like, that's a whole other picture too, in 176 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: terms of another piece of this puzzle. 177 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: Can a lot. 178 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: It sure is, And you make a great point, we 179 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: don't even know who the expansion teams are yet. Is 180 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: it Charlotte? Is at Nashville in the east? Is it 181 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City? Is it Portland in the west? Are 182 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: there other cities that are perhaps in the mix that 183 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: we don't even think about or haven't even considered yet. 184 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe so. But all of this will depend 185 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: on where those expansion teams end up. Jams proposal, what 186 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: he brought about a couple of years ago, basically is 187 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: done purely on geography and natural rivalries. So you see, 188 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: the Midwest division would have the Cubs, White Sox, Brewers, 189 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: and the Twins. They're all rivals. Even the Brewers and 190 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: the Twins have a rivalry. Southwest Astros Royals Cardinals, Rangers, 191 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: Pacific Coast down that Rockies don't belong on this Pacific coast, 192 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: but it doesn't always work perfectly. Colorado, the Athletics wherever 193 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: they might be, Seattle, San Francisco. Then the Western Division Arizona, 194 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: the Angels, the Dodgers, and the Padres. That makes a 195 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: ton of sense. And then you go to the East. 196 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: This would be an amazing division. The Red Sox, Mets, Yankees, 197 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: and Phillies, the North Reds, Guardians, Tigers, Blue Jays, and 198 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: you see the others as well. Mid Atlantic with the Orioles, Charlotte. 199 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Perhaps maybe it's Nashville, Pittsburgh and Washington, and the Southeast Atlanta, Nashville, 200 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and Miami. Another one that makes a lot 201 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: of geographic sense. Now that's that's an interesting proposal, no 202 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: question about it. But what I liked a little bit 203 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: better because it kept the leagues kind of more intact, 204 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: was what Stephen Nesbit suggested in the Athletics the other day. Now, 205 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: what Stephen doesn't have that Jim does are the Mets 206 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: and Yankees and the Dodgers and Angels and all those 207 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: teams necessarily in the same divisions. He did it more 208 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: like the way the leagues are currently constructed. I'm not 209 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: going to read all the names here, but you can 210 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: see them. And in the East, for example, he doesn't 211 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: have the Mets and Yankees together, but he has the Mets, Phillies, Pirates, 212 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: and Nationals. And then another example for him that would 213 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: be interesting would be in the West the Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Padres, 214 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: and Giants. No Angels, but you have the four natural 215 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: remaining inn L West rivals. It's sort of the same 216 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: in the American League the way Steven has it laid 217 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: out East kind of preserved the way it is now 218 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: without Tampa Bay, every other team is in there. And 219 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: in the West it's a little bit different. The A's 220 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: wherever they might be. The Angels saw Lake City or Portland, 221 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: plus the Mariners, and you can see the North and 222 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: South divisions there too. Now the question is going to 223 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: be if this all comes to pass, and again we're 224 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: not close yet. We're not close to expansion, we're not 225 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: close to realignment. But if it does come to pass, 226 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: then at that point Rob Manford, whoever is Commissioner of 227 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: Baseball at that point, will have to decide, Okay, do 228 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: we want to sort of preserve the leagues, or do 229 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: we want to go just pure geography and natural rivalries. 230 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: That's the decision. But again, we're talking about something that 231 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: is years away. A lot of fun for us to 232 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: talk about, no question, but we're not there yet. 233 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: Okay, do you have a different opinion or different solution? 234 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 3: Do you or do you have a preference and how 235 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: important is it to you, Ken Rosenthal to preserve the rivalries. 236 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't have a preference. I would lean a little 237 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: bit toward Nesbitz, but I understand Boden's and I understand 238 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: Bodens because if you're a met Yankee fan, if you're 239 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: a White Sox Cubs fan, if you're a Dodgers Angels fan, 240 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: you want to see those teams playing and you want 241 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: to see them in the same division. I assume not 242 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: everyone would agree. No one ever agrees entirely on anything, 243 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: but that would be the appeal of Jim's proposal. I 244 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: kind of lean towards Stevens a little bit, and that's 245 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: where I am with it. I don't have my own proposal. 246 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: I've not sat around thinking about this too much, but 247 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: it is cool to imagine what might be and then 248 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: of course, if you have a reduced schedule, as Jason 249 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: suggests this morning, what would be the point of that, Well, 250 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: mathematically it might work better with thirty two teams, and 251 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: the other point would be more playoffs. I don't know 252 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: that we need more playoffs. I don't know that Baseball 253 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: agrees with me on that. 254 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to have to find a way to 255 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: make up the revenue if it is only one hundred 256 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: and fifty four game regular season, so perhaps expanded playoffs 257 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: are the play I do think it's funny, though, that 258 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: Colorado would be in the Pacific Coast Division if it 259 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: were to be new divisions, because some would argue Ken 260 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: Rosenthal me not you that Colorado doesn't even belong in 261 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. 262 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: Okay, but boom boom, we don't. 263 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: Have relegations if you ever get your maybe. 264 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, although they have taken two of three so far 265 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: from the Los Angeles Dodgers, but that's for another conversation. 266 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: All right, get your questions in for Grill and Ken. 267 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: It's fair territory. 268 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: Continues here on all of our different networks. 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Believe in? 296 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: More Ken to clinch the third wildcard spot. He's putting 297 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: you on the spot, either the Mets or the Reds. 298 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: I don't trust and believe in my Mets. Armond is 299 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: obviously a big Met fan. 300 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: Armand might have a point. Now. The Mets lead the 301 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: Reds by one game for the final wildcard spot. If 302 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: you had to pick this based on starting pitching, you 303 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: would pick the Reds Winter Green, Lindolo, everything that they 304 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: have Andrew Abbott. That's a stronger rotation than the Mets 305 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: are offering right now. Single last night again not great, 306 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: and David Peterson really has been their only consistent starter. Now, 307 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: perhaps Norm McClain, will Nolan McLain not Norm, will give 308 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: them something that they've been looking for, and perhaps they'll 309 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: bring up some of their younger prospects as well in 310 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: addition to McLain to kind of fortify themselves. But they 311 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: still have the lead. They don't have as good a 312 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: run differential as the Reds. For whatever that is worth. 313 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: I just trust that their players, their position players in 314 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: the end will carry them, But I'm not convinced of that, 315 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: and the Reds rotation is dangerous, and if the Reds 316 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: get in, they're dangerous for that reason. And their offense 317 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: has been a little bit better of late, so armand 318 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: I would say that I cannot give you words of 319 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: comfort here. I'm not so sure this is going to 320 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: go exactly the way the Mets want it. 321 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: Is that the biggest collapse in your opinion of the season, 322 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: Ken considering if they don't make the postseason, considering all 323 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: that was put into in the offseason, obviously wan so too, 324 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: all the different things. 325 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that would be an epic fail, would it not? 326 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: It would? And in fact, my friend Joel Sherman and 327 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: your friend as well, Alana, wrote a column recently basically 328 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: asking the question, would this be the most disappointing Mets 329 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: season in history? Now there's some competition there for most 330 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: disappointing season in Met's history, but the mere fact that 331 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: Joel would be asking that question in Juan Soto's first 332 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: year with the team and a year when they've resigned 333 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo, that is troubling alone. And we'll see what 334 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: happens here. I still expect the Mets big players Alonzo, Sodo, Lindor, 335 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: et cetera to step up, and certainly the loss of 336 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: Alvarez for however long it is behind the plate, hurts them. 337 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: I just see their position club as being stronger than 338 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: the Reds, and that's the question I have with the Reds. 339 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: Will they score enough to support that rotation? 340 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: Now, the fact that the Reds are even in the 341 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: conversation is fun. I'm not certain that I would have 342 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: put the Reds in the postseason picture. Good for Cincinnati. 343 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: Another question on Grill and Ken in regards to realignment. 344 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: Of course, a lot of folks want to talk about 345 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: this because it's been a topic of conversation for some time. 346 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 3: Bernie Suarez, in what world would it make sense to 347 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: have the Dodgers and Giants in different divisions preserving those rivalries? 348 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Bernie wants to know, Bernie, not my world that I 349 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: don't believe in Alata's world either would that makes sense. 350 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: So I don't know which proposal had that, but I 351 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: hear you, man, And certainly the balance here. The trick here, 352 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: if we ever get to this point, will be for 353 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: major League Baseball to preserve what is good. Dodgers Giants, 354 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: Dodgers Padres for that matter, while still doing this realignment, 355 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: which basically is all revolving around geography anyway, So why 356 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: would you not have the Dodgers, Giants, Padres, and Diamondbacks 357 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: all playing each other. I would rather have that than Dodgers' Angels, 358 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: for instance, in the same division. So I'm with you 359 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: on that. Put it that way, I agree. 360 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: I think the rivalries are important for the sport and 361 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: obviously just for the history of this great. 362 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: Game of ours. 363 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: Next question on Grill and Ken is from Craig Osterberg. 364 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Craig, Well, pitching or decide these divisional races. 365 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 366 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: Asking a general question here, and it's a good one. 367 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure how you can break down each 368 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: one along these lines, because I'm sure pitching will decide some. 369 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: It may decide the NL wild Card, for instance, as 370 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: we just discussed, and I would imagine hitting will decide 371 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: some others. For instance, if the Yankees slug their way 372 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: to the Al East title and the Blue Jays don't 373 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: start playing better again, that could happen. A lot of 374 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: things gonna happen, So I'm not exactly sure how to 375 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: answer that, but basically, put it this way, the team 376 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: with the best combination is going to be a really 377 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: good shape. 378 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: Who do you think has the best combination? 379 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Milwaukee has had a good combination, There's no doubt about that. 380 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: And they're pitching, in my view from a national standpoint, 381 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: gets a little overlooked at times because we all dwell 382 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: on their offense and the cool things that they do, 383 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: the way they generate and manufacture runs. But if they 384 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: get mis going again and he struggled a litle little 385 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: bit yesterday again, then there will be a formidable combination 386 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: for sure. And then you look at the Phillies as well. 387 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: The Phillies had an incredible offensive series against Seattle. Trey 388 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: Turner is ridiculously hot, seven straight three hit games. Matt 389 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: Gel wrote about that today in The Athletic and the Phillies. 390 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: Even without Wheeler, if Ranger Suarez pitches the way he 391 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: did the other night, if Christopher Sanchez keeps it up, 392 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: you have the makings of a dynamic playoff rotation with Lozardo, 393 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: with Oaron Nola possibly getting back in things too, So 394 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: they've got some possibilities there. They're going to be an 395 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: interesting team. In the playoffs. 396 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: Man, the National League is so interesting because there's so 397 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 3: many good teams. You just don't know which way it's 398 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: going to go. I think a definite easier path is 399 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: in the junior circuit. All right, much more to come 400 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: here on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. We appreciate the 401 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: questions on Grill and Ken, but next we are talking. 402 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: Dude and dork of the week. 403 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 5: Right after this, Okay, Kratz. I opened up Arena Club, 404 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 5: put my own money in there, and I wasn't gonna 405 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 5: go big. 406 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: I know. 407 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 5: We went over the Ruby pack a week ago. This 408 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: time I just went for the low level pack, where 409 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 5: it's an easy entry point twenty five bucks. You can 410 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 5: get yourself a big boy card. The Grail has many 411 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 5: good options. I slice open the pack. We're looking at 412 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 5: it if you're watching us right now, and I pull 413 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 5: a card from the nineteen fifties. Super cool. I enjoyed 414 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 5: the experience looking at it. It's Jim Gilliam, It's the 415 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 5: top set from the mid fifties. 416 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: It's cool. 417 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 5: It's a Brooklyn Dodger. But it's worth more than the card. 418 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm going to sell it back. I 419 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 5: got twenty eight bucks instantly, so I can buy another 420 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 5: one of those packs and try and get what I want. 421 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely, the excitement I heard Kip say it before. The 422 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: excitement's in the chase. You sold it back. Now you 423 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 4: get to open another one. I enjoy when you slide 424 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: it across the screen there and the pack opens. 425 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: You know where to go. 426 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 5: Arenaclub dot com slash foul twenty percent off your first 427 00:20:53,200 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 5: slab Packer card purchase. Get after it, dude, dude, dude. 428 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: All right where You're nearing the end of the month 429 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: of August, almost to September. The tide is turning, the 430 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: calendar is turning, the leaves are changing a little bit. 431 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: Who is your dude of the week this week? 432 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: Hol on it. It's going to be the Yankees for 433 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: hitting nine home runs against the Tampa Bay Rays on 434 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: Tuesday night. They came within one of the major League record. 435 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: But really I'm only naming the Yankees dudes so I 436 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: can get into another story. And the other story is 437 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: the record that actually was set in nineteen eighty seven, 438 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: in my first year on the beat at Toronto's Exhibition 439 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Stadium by the Blue Jays against the Orioles ten Homers 440 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: and Hank Peters, and the Oils general manager later made 441 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: an instructional video out of that night for the Oriols 442 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: minor leaguers. He called it the Barrage. He said, this 443 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: is the lesson on not how to pitch, on how 444 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: not to pitch. So that is a very distinct memory 445 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: for me. The next day, I'm twenty four years old. 446 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm on the beat against Tim Kirkhi and Richard Justice, 447 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: two of the great beat writers in the country. Tim, 448 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: of course, still one of the most formidable baseball experts 449 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: in our game. And I walk into cal Rican Senior's office. 450 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: He's the manager at the time. I was terrified and 451 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: I asked him, Cal, after last night, the team's on 452 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: its way to ninety five loss, as it turns out, 453 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: are you worried about getting fired? I was terrified of 454 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: what he might say, and he said, we just put 455 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: on one of the most embarrassing displays in Major league history. 456 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm worried about getting fired. That record still stands. 457 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: The Yankees challengep but didn't get there. But they're the 458 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: dudes of the week. 459 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm glad that Cal Ripken Senior was kind to you 460 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: in that moment, He's like, of course, I'm worried about 461 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: getting fired. What a story, Ken, And you've been doing 462 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: it at the highest level ever since. Okay, my dude 463 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: of the week is another journalist to have a tremendous 464 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: amount of respect for Nick Pocoro, who, of course writes 465 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: for the Arizona Republic. He has covered the Diamondbacks for 466 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: two decades, you know, doing all of the necessary dirty work, 467 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: and unfortunately he's getting dragged in the process a little bit. 468 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: He recently had an article in the Arizona Republic on 469 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: Katel Marte about how there was a little bit of 470 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: discourse perhaps and seemingly katel Marte asking for some time 471 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: off in a various in certain times of the season 472 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: where perhaps there was a little bit of discord amongst 473 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: his teammates. Obviously, Ken, I don't think a story like 474 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: this comes out without basis, and certainly with a tremendous 475 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: amount of research and the need for it to come out. 476 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: This is not something that Nick, I would imagine, just 477 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 3: heard about in terms of rumblings or without legitimate sources. 478 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: This is something that I'm sure he's worked on for 479 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: a period of time. But of course fans are now 480 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: upset about the story and perhaps wondering if katel Marte 481 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: is going to be traded, if Tory Leavello is too 482 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 3: easy on him, you know, just starting some negative conversations. 483 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: I guess about the Diamondbacks clubhouse. But that is Nick's 484 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: job as a reporter, and he has earned the right 485 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: and has the resume to write something like this, perhaps 486 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: without being questioned about the integrity of the article. I'm 487 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: interested because you, as as a beat writer and someone 488 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: that is a baseball columnist for a long time, knows 489 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: how difficult it is to be in the clubhouse day 490 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: in and day out. 491 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 2: What is your take on this? 492 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: Well, I said this on a foul territory the other day. 493 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you a lot of one thousand percent on this. 494 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: And here's a message to fans. You say you want 495 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: to know about your teams, Well, you can't only know 496 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: about the good things about your teams. We're not out 497 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: there to be cheerleaders. If you want a certain kind 498 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: of reporting positive for the team all the time, I 499 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: can direct you to certain websites that will do that 500 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: for you. That is not the job of a journalist. 501 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: The job of a journalist is to tell you what's 502 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: going on, good or bad. So you can't say I 503 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: want to know as much as possible about my team, 504 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: but then say, well I'd rather not know this or that. 505 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: And you know what, what Nick wrote is not going 506 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: to destroy the Diamondbacks. What could tell Marte was doing 507 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: at the Diamondbacks And he apologized for it so or 508 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: at least some of it. So when he apologizes for it, that, 509 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: as I said on FT, further legitimize the story. And 510 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: it's a really good choice for dude to the week. 511 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Nick took too much crap for this. 512 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nick is a very good journalist and he's a 513 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 3: colleague of ours, and I stand behind that when I 514 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 3: say that he is an unbelievable professional. Okay, time now 515 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: for dork of the week. All right, Ken, who do 516 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: you have for your dork? 517 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: This troubles me a little bit because I like this guy. 518 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: I know him a little bit, Victor Roebus, and he's 519 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: dork of the week for throwing the bat and getting 520 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: the ten game suspension. Now, there were extenuating circumstances, as 521 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: he pointed out in his statement of apology. He's coming 522 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: off a left shoulder separation, he's missed most of the year. 523 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: He's been very frustrated about that. He recently lost his mom, 524 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: and he was hit in three of his first four games. 525 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: And he also had a history with the pitcher Joey Estes, 526 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: who had hit him in the So all of these 527 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: things are true, and all of these things help explain 528 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: why you see Robust reacting the way he did. There 529 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He still can't throw a bat. And I 530 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: don't know that Victor Roebos would disagree with me naming 531 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: him dork of the Week. 532 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Mine is a guy that decided that he couldn't 533 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: get enough either fantasy football or he really needed to 534 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: make sure that his boss could reach him at all time. 535 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: Mine man at the game at Wrigley bringing his laptop. 536 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: And not only ken did he bring his laptop, he 537 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: brought his mouse. Do you not have a computer that 538 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 3: at least has a mouse on the keyboard itself? 539 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 540 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: I mean again, if he's working on his fantasy baseball 541 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: league or getting ready for his football draft, no problem. 542 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 2: But if you're. 543 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: Actually working, maybe you should not be in a place 544 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 3: where your boss can find you on the JumboTron. 545 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: It's like going to a cold play concert. 546 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: All right. 547 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: Thank you everybody for being a part of Fair Territory 548 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: with Ken Rosenthal. 549 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. 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