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Speaker 1: Yeah that uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.

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Speaker 2: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there.

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Speaker 2: You love sandwiches. Huh. Let's go to uh eighty bo.

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Speaker 2: It was bo wow that prime time. Maybe I had

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Speaker 1: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went

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Speaker 2: He caught them the game last night. Although they won

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Speaker 2: the game. You're listening just to Gatton Company. I love

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Speaker 1: I got his podcast the right time with Baumani Jones.

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Speaker 1: He is breaking my heart. He is not showing up

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Speaker 1: at San Francisco. I watch you, my friend next week

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Speaker 1: on Radio Row Super Bowl, weag.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing to me? Man? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Dude? It's just like, you know, I just go there

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Speaker 3: That's the only reason I go.

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Speaker 2: And you gotta, like, you gotta be a real.

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Speaker 3: Hoe to Walter Stroll at four o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 3: and that's what you gotta do because the time zzone

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Speaker 1: It works out for us though, right, I mean, our

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Speaker 2: Yes you're you're in great shape on it.

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Speaker 3: But no, this is the first time in a couple

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Speaker 3: got nowhere for me to play black jack?

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Speaker 3: Man made fourteen hundred dollars in two hours.

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Speaker 2: Really, had you walked away? You walked away the power

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Speaker 3: I walked away to go watch the college football game,

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Speaker 4: You don't really strike me as a radio row guy,

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Speaker 2: Rope, both of them. Is he in tailor Taylor matches up? Well?

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Speaker 3: Like I told I sold his bestew guys last year,

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Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, that's right.

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Speaker 3: You and your friend he can watch, he can join

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Speaker 3: I don't think that that's that crazy. But Bob Kraft

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's what I got. Bill Poulliet is eighty three

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Speaker 1: If this can happen to Bill BELLI R I said

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Speaker 3: It is so unfair the idea that people think he's

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Speaker 1: You got to kick somebody out unless it's mine, in

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Speaker 3: But like, you go need more than two super bowl

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Speaker 2: Say that he's better than Dan Marino. Yes, Damn ma Reno.

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Speaker 2: He's not.

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Speaker 4: I think what people are hanging on to with Stafford

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Speaker 3: They are cutting him slack for playing for the Lions

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Speaker 2: All those years.

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't think that is just because you switch

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Speaker 3: we've seen those quarterbacks who are really good and on

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Speaker 2: Of four, right right.

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Speaker 3: The infrastructure was there for Stafford, and Stafford never won

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Speaker 2: They got robbed of one in the playoffs one year.

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Speaker 3: A call. But all I'm saying is top ten is

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame? For me is if you say so,

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Speaker 3: top ten is we can fight right right?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: How many super bowls would Stafford? Where do I need

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Speaker 1: would you be willing to say he's better than Dan Marino?

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. And then also I find them

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Speaker 3: the both of them is did you see that throw? Yes,

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Speaker 3: Stafford has some serious man, did you see that throw?

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Speaker 2: Good? Crazous.

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Speaker 3: Dan Marino has one of the most important skills of

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Speaker 3: man went sixteen straight games? Was it without being sacked once? Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's not about the line. Only one of those guys

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Speaker 3: it's about the money, right, Hey, straight lines too?

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Speaker 2: No, Arc just yep.

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Speaker 1: L Way was like that. He was in that class.

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Speaker 1: Another guy for me, at least Caleb Williams. Like there

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Speaker 2: It's just me talking to myself and I'm like, holy shit,

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Speaker 2: did you see that throw?

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Speaker 3: You know Elway is the guy where I go back

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Speaker 3: and I've always been a critic of Lway, and it's fair.

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Speaker 2: The numbers aren't necessarily there.

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Speaker 3: Think it's a very interesting discussion about what John Elway was.

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Speaker 2: H who with Lock? Oh? No, I did not know that.

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Speaker 2: It's that Craft thing. Yeah, that has to be drunk.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, when has Carolina ever had a coach

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Speaker 1: The Browns have hired Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Munkett as

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts love news you're using, Leslie.

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Speaker 3: This is this is how I know that it had

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Speaker 3: it's a significant raise that he's about to get. What

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Speaker 2: It used to be a time a time like this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, boy, this is I can't wait to see

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Speaker 3: how Monkin deals with that. Right like that that oh,

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Speaker 3: or something. Right, karm McGriff did more for Atlanta sports

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Speaker 4: You're right, this is so much more complicated than I

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Speaker 1: Right, Like when you think back on Dion's career, he

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Speaker 2: He I won't give him this.

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Speaker 3: He was there for the first playoff win in the

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Speaker 3: We had the black quarterback you got was a first

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not the same.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. This is not the same.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of complicated legacies in the NBA, there's a couple

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Speaker 4: When you as we go through the year, Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even realize Embiid was back around because I

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Speaker 2: Stop paying attention to him. Don't blame me right now.

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Speaker 2: The thing with Kawhi.

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Speaker 4: That's where I end up with it, yeah, because I

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Speaker 3: If Kawhi Leonard told you I'm a better player than

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Speaker 3: At there was a time where Kawhi Leonard was, without

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Speaker 3: steals like it's all these things that you could point

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's left.

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Speaker 4: He's the only one person who could say, yeah, if

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Speaker 2: I'm very upset. I tell you, I'll bring us back here. Baumani.

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Speaker 5: If I tell you that only one of these quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: I still call Sam Darnold same Donald. I still believe

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Speaker 3: fall apart. The problem is Drake may So it's tricky

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Speaker 2: Right, so you you you.

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Speaker 3: Can make the counterpoints if you want to make them.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know like the ideas you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you it is.

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Speaker 3: Though, this game gotta make everybody feel like they pay

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Speaker 3: what's going on here? And Drake may I mean, and

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Speaker 2: Even got to do all have a guy that do

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Speaker 2: gotta feel like, what am I doing? Man?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: What is this? Yes? Uh bamani?

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Speaker 1: Two pros and a cup of Joe Brady Quinn LeVar

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Speaker 1: Arrington said that Mike Tomlin to Mike McCarthy is like

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Speaker 3: They stole that from the internet because I had seen

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Speaker 2: Man, I think that's how they read it.

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Speaker 3: They read it, Uh, okay, it's a it's a it's

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Speaker 3: a I don't understand what exactly you're doing, right, because

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Speaker 3: to be fair, they didn't change their pants change themselves,

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Speaker 3: So it's not that they crap their pants and changed

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Speaker 3: their shirts. Is that they don't have pants on and

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Speaker 2: Like I don't, I don't. I don't know what this

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Speaker 3: And maybe they think getting the Enzer in there will

444
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Speaker 3: do the job for the people.

445
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Speaker 2: But I maybe, and I.

446
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Speaker 3: Said on my show that maybe we just got ourselves

447
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Speaker 3: caught up in small sample theater, like, oh, this is

448
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Speaker 3: what they did the last three times, that means they'll

449
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Speaker 3: do it the fourth right, Right, they got the young

450
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Speaker 3: defensive coach with no experience, and we're gonna be.

451
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Speaker 2: Patient with them.

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Speaker 3: If you hire Mike McCarthy and you be impatient, that's

453
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Speaker 3: your fault.

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Speaker 1: But he automatically goes on the Steelers head coaching Mount Rushmore, right,

455
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Speaker 1: like that's.

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Speaker 3: They needed a fourth yes, Because there's the thing that

457
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Speaker 3: people don't know about the Steelers is prior to that

458
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Speaker 3: chutn ol era, they were the worst franchise. They Washington,

459
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Speaker 3: or like the two worst franchise in the league. Washington,

460
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Speaker 3: I actually think had got a championship during World War Two,

461
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Speaker 3: so their racism notwithstanding, they got a little bit better.

462
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Speaker 3: But the Steelers were the worst because their owner was

463
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Speaker 3: a little bit too concerned with running rackets, yes, and

464
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Speaker 3: didn't dealing with the football team.

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Speaker 1: Right, speaking of racism, is that the most Jets thing ever?

466
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Speaker 2: John Gruden not wanting to coach the New York Jets.

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Speaker 2: I wasted well played or maybe it was it, but

468
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Speaker 2: mine will tell that.

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Speaker 3: John Gruden would at this point have the nerve to

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Speaker 3: turn a job down.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I just I can't, right, I can't believe that he's

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Speaker 3: just like I guess Portanoy's allowing him to do this

474
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Speaker 3: in part. But we're just gonna act like this never happened. Huh.

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Speaker 3: And anytime somebody asked John Gruden, nobody like, hey, I

476
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Speaker 3: didn't get my due process. Cool to sit your ass

477
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Speaker 3: down until you do right, like sit down the whole way.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 3: If they had, I will say that if Woody Johnson

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Speaker 3: would have been so stupid as to fire Aaron Glynn,

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Speaker 3: which would be a defensible position by the way, on

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Speaker 3: its face. Yes, you can't fire that particular man and

483
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Speaker 3: then hire John Gruden, Right, you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: I would also like.

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Speaker 3: To point out, for everybody who does not realize this,

486
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Speaker 3: it has been twenty three years as John Gruden closed

487
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Speaker 3: to Koch playoff win.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That Super Bowl was the last time he won a

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Speaker 3: playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just left us on dumbfounded.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, right, what an overrated clown man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Bamoni yet over there, Mike McCarthy, and he dropped

495
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Speaker 4: a bar yesterday when you said my heart is full,

496
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Speaker 4: but my focus is singular.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this man really times? Did he say that to

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Speaker 2: himself in the mirror the right time?

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Speaker 1: With Bamani Jones wherever you get your podcast, Bamani, we

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Speaker 1: have you here. You know, I don't normally discuss these

501
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Speaker 1: types of things here, but not because I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: It's a sports show.

503
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Speaker 1: I try to get people relieve, trying to make them laugh,

504
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Speaker 1: make them smile a little bit. But your thoughts on

505
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Speaker 1: everything happening in Minnesota right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's interesting that we've reached the point

507
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Speaker 3: where they throw in that no one woman under the bus,

508
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Speaker 3: and now she is trying to save herself for being

509
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Speaker 3: thrown under the bus.

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Speaker 2: But the real problem is this.

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Speaker 3: I keep seeing people make the point that ice ain't

512
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Speaker 3: law enforcement, and it's I guess so right, I don't

513
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Speaker 3: fully understand that, but I do know this.

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Speaker 2: They ain't no real police right right, and they.

515
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Speaker 3: Got them, they got them doing jobs the real police

516
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Speaker 3: shouldn't even have to do.

517
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Speaker 2: But those are not real police.

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Speaker 3: And you see that in certain cities where they clearly

519
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Speaker 3: we are they're supposed to be like running ice off

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Speaker 3: the block. It's because they know real police when they

521
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Speaker 3: see it, and they're like, man, it ain't the police.

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Speaker 2: We could get them out of there.

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Speaker 3: You know, if they're in Minnesota, eat, they're a little

524
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Speaker 3: more polite, so they might have a little bit more

525
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Speaker 3: respect for But now they had enough of that too.

526
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Speaker 3: My black man in that first coach, did y'all see him?

527
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Speaker 3: We got him a bunch of bitches and told them

528
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Speaker 3: that you know they gonna be They bitch asked, you

529
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Speaker 3: need to remember this forever. I was like, Yeah, that's

530
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Speaker 3: how you talk when you know it ain't not real cops.

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Speaker 3: He had all the Matthew Henson fir Co. He knew

532
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Speaker 3: they wasn't no real cops. And that's the that's it's

533
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Speaker 3: got to end at some point. Like at first I

534
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 3: thought that Trump and I was reading the rule and realizing,

535
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Speaker 3: hey man, we kind of need to bail out of here.

536
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Speaker 3: But no, it sounds like they gonna try to keep

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Speaker 3: this going and that's going to result in a lot

538
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Speaker 3: more bad things happening.

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Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned with even with John Gruden, like or

540
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Speaker 4: we're just going to pretend this isn't happening. That's what

541
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: it feels like they want everybody to do, just pretend

542
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Speaker 4: these things aren't happening. And I think wehen beIN Yama yesterday.

543
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Speaker 4: I believe it was sort of giving voice to his

544
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Speaker 4: fear living here and his fear of saying things in

545
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Speaker 4: public for fear of retribution. I'm just curious where you are.

546
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Speaker 4: But I don't think you sound fearful of saying anything.

547
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Speaker 4: But I'm curious of where you are in terms of

548
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Speaker 4: what can be said, what sort of retribution there might be,

549
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Speaker 4: or just kind of where we are in general now.

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Speaker 3: I think being judicious is fairly wise, right, Like this

551
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Speaker 3: is it was the Kimmel thing. I did something about that,

552
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Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, I don't really know what's

553
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: going on here, because that was something I didn't think

554
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Speaker 3: was possible or that could go down.

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Speaker 2: I don't at this point. I think if I were a.

556
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Speaker 3: Little bit bigger or more visible, that there would probably

557
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: be a little bit more to worry about on that front.

558
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Speaker 3: But what gets me, generally speaking, is that this is

559
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Speaker 3: not Our society has a been less outspoken than it

560
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Speaker 3: used to be. Like you look at the way things

561
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Speaker 3: were had in the bubble, for example, and I guess

562
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Speaker 3: everybody was at home and charged up about these things.

563
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Speaker 3: Even what we're hearing from NBA players now is to

564
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Speaker 3: a degree muted now. The French boys and French they

565
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Speaker 3: always down to protest. So it was a Yapaseli. I

566
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Speaker 3: think that's how you say his name. He had something

567
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Speaker 3: to say, yeah, those are the guys. Because the French,

568
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Speaker 3: the French would all be out there right now, would

569
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Speaker 3: a guillotine You understand what I'm saying, Like they're always

570
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Speaker 3: prepared on something like that.

571
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Speaker 2: But I am. I want to be careful about.

572
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Speaker 3: Saying disappointed, because nobody's obligated to do or say anything.

573
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Speaker 3: But this does feel like particular with the NBA because

574
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: they're so squarely in season, a bit more muted than

575
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: we had seen. Things like when Anthony Edwards said his

576
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: big old ball and nothing when they asked him about it,

577
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, he doesn't pay attention to anything.

578
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 3: And I love him as a player and as a personality.

579
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Speaker 3: But I think they finally rolled out a generation of

580
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Speaker 3: NBA player largely who doesn't have anything to say. The

581
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Speaker 3: guys that do appear to be, you know, having a

582
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Speaker 3: bit to say or whatever. Victor notwithstanding, seemed to be

583
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 3: a little bit older. These young boys ought they'd been

584
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: doing is playing basketball.

585
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Speaker 2: That's it.

586
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Speaker 4: Victor's so unique, and he's in that organization basically just

587
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Speaker 4: behind Greg Popovich, who was so vocal as well. I

588
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Speaker 4: feel like he feels like it's a safe space to

589
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Speaker 4: say what he can, even though it's measured.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, it's interesting because he said that

591
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Speaker 3: PR wanted him to not say anything, and I saw

592
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Speaker 3: somebody tweet Somebody's disappointing that PR would say that, No,

593
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Speaker 3: that's PR's job. PR is doing exactly what PR is

594
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Speaker 3: supposed to be. I appreciate that Victor recognizes. But I

595
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: run this I run this whole thing. Pop used to

596
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: run this whole thing. Well, now he's gone, and now

597
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: I run the whole thing. I've built us a whole

598
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: fan cheering section because I am in charge here. And

599
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 3: he decided that he has something to say. Man, you

600
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: know he ain't be out tore kicking it with monks

601
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Speaker 3: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: He had peace the right time with Bamahani Jones. He

603
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Speaker 1: is the greatest. I'm upset I won't see him next

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Speaker 1: week in San Francisco. Perhaps I can will you with

605
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Speaker 1: this me Chris Long sitting on a blanket on the

606
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Speaker 1: grass looking at the Golden gate Bridge taking mushrooms.

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Speaker 2: He had, Let's.

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Speaker 3: Go God, I would be so I'm so disappointed that

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Speaker 3: I won't be able to join that. Next time you

610
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Speaker 3: talk to Chris, ask Chris what we did the last

611
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Speaker 3: time that he had and I hung out.

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Speaker 2: At the Super Bowl. I'm being again about now should

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Speaker 2: we try to recreate it?

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Speaker 6: Or is that too much of a spoilers It's impossible

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Speaker 6: to recreate it was a serendipitous collision of humanity that

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Speaker 6: lid for an all time great great night.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's just leave it right there, because I

618
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Speaker 1: am doing this with him next week and I will

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Speaker 1: ask him on radio row and he will tell us

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Speaker 1: that story.

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Speaker 2: If that's okay with you, sir, it's okay with me.

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Speaker 3: He might tell the story like, we don't need to

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Speaker 3: protect a couple of people.

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Speaker 2: But you're good. You're fine not being protected. You're good.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm good with being involved in now. I

626
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Speaker 2: can't wait to hear it.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, man, and I appreciate your friendship

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: And I have heard about him, but it has not

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Speaker 2: made it.

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Speaker 1: I just can't wait for football to be over.

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