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<v Speaker 1>On this Tuesday, Dan and the Danas Stan Patrick Show

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about dive into the Astros controversy. LSU's Place,

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<v Speaker 1>Old Time, Joe Burrows Place, Old Time. We'll check in

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<v Speaker 1>with Reggie Millar. It looks like the Lakers are in

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<v Speaker 1>the mood to make a couple of trades. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to reg about that a little later on. Freshly minted

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame coach Jimmy Johnson Fox Sports analyst, the

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<v Speaker 1>former Canes and Cowboys coach, will join us and Rick

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<v Speaker 1>new heisl one of the brightest football mines that I know.

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<v Speaker 1>He was at the National Title Game. He'll recap what

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<v Speaker 1>he saw unfold in front of him and America. College

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<v Speaker 1>Football's national title game has been all about Clemson and

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama the last couple of years, which has been great,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure that will remember specific championship teams.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think you can say that about this

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<v Speaker 1>year's LSU team. That national title run feels like a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a head coach who's a character in the

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<v Speaker 1>best possible way. You got a quarterback Joe Burrow, who

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't win the job at Ohio State and then goes

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<v Speaker 1>to LSU finally gives them a legitimate quarterback and he

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<v Speaker 1>might have put up the best numbers in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of the sport at that position. Then you win the

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<v Speaker 1>title in the Superdome, kind of like a New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>fairy tale. And LSU's been here before they won championships.

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<v Speaker 1>You go back to nineteen fifty eight, they had Billy Cannon,

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<v Speaker 1>the Heisman Trophy winner, they went undefeated. But this year's team,

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<v Speaker 1>they slayed all the dragons that they faced in their schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible play at quarterback, they beat Alabama, they stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>every time they needed to. So congrats to LSU, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would tell you to go celebrate, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the party is well under way in Baton Rouge

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<v Speaker 1>and elsewhere in Louisiana. A lot of fun to watch

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Burrow through sixty touchdown passes this season. And

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<v Speaker 1>I started to wonder about this because it was a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago where I said LSU has always

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<v Speaker 1>had talent, certainly at wide receivers, defensive backs, running backs,

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<v Speaker 1>but they never really had that great quarterback. Good quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>but not a great quarterback. Joe Burrow through sixty touchdown passes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is one more touchdown pass then LSU had over

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<v Speaker 1>the four previous seasons. Combined stat of the day, dat

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, that pass Dad of the days stat

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<v Speaker 1>of the day comes that what stat of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought Clemson had a good game plan early

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to confuse him. They did confuse him.

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<v Speaker 1>They did go up by ten, and then you had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of plays. You had a targeting call. You

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<v Speaker 1>also had a fumble by Trevor Lawrence. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the better team did win. I had a gut feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that Clemson was going to win. They weren't. The better team.

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<v Speaker 1>Just had a gut feeling. This one felt like the

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<v Speaker 1>Texans against the Chiefs that you built up that lead,

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<v Speaker 1>but it almost felt like it's a false lead and

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<v Speaker 1>you missed opportunities and you don't score touchdowns or you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even get a field goal, and you have some

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<v Speaker 1>puns where you're on their side of the field, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, you knew LSU's coming at

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<v Speaker 1>some point LSU's coming, and then it came, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you can't stop it. It's a lot like the Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City Chiefs, and that was a dominating performance. Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 1>can play on my team anytime he wants to. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>bring him in if I can't get Joe Burrow. But

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<v Speaker 1>I better have a high draft pick because Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 1>put up two hundred and twenty one yards in the

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<v Speaker 1>National title game, and that's the most receiving yards in

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<v Speaker 1>a national title game since nineteen ninety eight. Oj Howard

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<v Speaker 1>of Alabama had the previous record in twenty fifteen. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was impressive and LSU rightfully deserves the national title.

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<v Speaker 1>But more than that, you're going to look at this

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<v Speaker 1>team as one of the special teams that we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>in recent college football history. And Joe Burrow as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow did everything you wanted for a quarterback to

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<v Speaker 1>do in a big situation, a big game. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the great years that we've seen in college football history.

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<v Speaker 1>Age seven seven three DP show email address TP at

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<v Speaker 1>dan Patrick dot com. We got a lot of poll

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<v Speaker 1>question possibilities here. Here's one for you. If the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Draft were today and both quarterbacks were eligible to go in,

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<v Speaker 1>who should go number one? Not who would, but who

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<v Speaker 1>should go number one? If I said Trevor Lawrence or

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow, man, who do you have? Yes, McLevin, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand the difference. What's the difference what you think

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<v Speaker 1>should happen and what would happen? Meaning like, not who

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<v Speaker 1>you think is a better one, but who do you

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<v Speaker 1>think NFL teams will think is a better one? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we look at potential Lawrence, it feels like there's more

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<v Speaker 1>potential with him. He's a great quarterback, more potential with him.

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<v Speaker 1>You might look at Joe Burrow and say how much

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<v Speaker 1>better can he get? Whereas Lawrence it feels like you go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. He develops a little bit more maturity

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<v Speaker 1>back there. He lets you know, the play develop takes

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<v Speaker 1>a little more time there. He was rushing things last night,

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<v Speaker 1>had a costly fumble last night. Burrow is a polished

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<v Speaker 1>player right now, but he's a couple of years older

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<v Speaker 1>than Trevor Lawrence. I'm guessing that people would still take

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence number one overall. Joe Burrow has shown you everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but but we don't like when it's right in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you. It's like Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson showed you

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<v Speaker 1>everything you needed to see in a franchise quarterback. He

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<v Speaker 1>won on a big stage, great kid face of a franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mitchell Trubisky offered potential, and the Bears bid on potential,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Giants with Daniel Jones. The potential we

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<v Speaker 1>don't we didn't really see it, but the potential is

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<v Speaker 1>there instead of I can see it right in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me. Yeah. Point and he ever think Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>is doing. He's not staying around too long to be

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<v Speaker 1>picked apart. He gone, it's true, gone, yeah. And I

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<v Speaker 1>picked apart Lawrence a little bit this year because he

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<v Speaker 1>had a wonderful freshman year and I thought that he

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<v Speaker 1>would regress, and he did a little bit. He's still

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<v Speaker 1>a marvelous talent there. But you know what, last night,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you got to see that maybe there's work

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<v Speaker 1>to be done, and he's got another year to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got a great coach and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be great again next year. I did find it interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that Nick Saban agreed to work on the broadcast for

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<v Speaker 1>the Mothership, and I was wondering, why would why would

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban go let me be there to remind you

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not there, but then I'm still involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Title Game. And I was just wondering, how

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<v Speaker 1>painful is that for Nick Saban to sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>then talk about the greatness of these other teams that

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't beat. And maybe it's a recruiting tool for

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban. Hey I'll be at the National Title Game.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a call at halftime, whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And I think Nick likes TV. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's gonna segue into TV, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think he likes that, you know it and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>every week and he's not traveling with college game Day.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just this is a one and done for

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<v Speaker 1>him to be involved in. Like Urban Meyer, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll work the National Title game if I'm not in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Urban went into you know, he transferred into TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Nick Saban is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys urban's doing it every week, but

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have a job in college, you know, coaching

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<v Speaker 1>or in the NFL. Nick Saban's still got a great job,

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<v Speaker 1>and it feels like he's going to continue to do

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<v Speaker 1>that for a little while. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>see him going, hey, I'm gonna segue into TV when

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<v Speaker 1>this is all said and done, But it was just

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of struck me when you see him where

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<v Speaker 1>you go, Oh, that's right, he's doing the game, the

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<v Speaker 1>pregame for the Mothership. Yeah. Point, I think it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be recruiting, because, like you said, it's a painful

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<v Speaker 1>thought to go participate in a game you're not in

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<v Speaker 1>the pageantry around it. But he and his people must think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I could be there. My face is

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<v Speaker 1>there for the two hour pregame and the parents are watching,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still the face of college football. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm there, which he is still Yes, God, but

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<v Speaker 1>unless it's an ego thing or you love TV that much,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still competitive. I can't imagine that. I think of

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick or anyone else, Why would you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be anywhere near that place? If you didn't get in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I could see some coaches that are driven

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<v Speaker 1>like him not even want to watch the game on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind being there in the stadium. Why is it

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<v Speaker 1>the guys who hate the media want to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the media, like Bill Parcels, Bob Knight. They despise the

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<v Speaker 1>media and then they want to be part of the media.

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<v Speaker 1>And Nick Saban Nick got a sort of back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth relationship with the media. But yeah, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot there to kind of process last night, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking prior to the show about the targeting call

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<v Speaker 1>there where I wonder, why can't you just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>separate if it's a targeting call? Did somebody truly target somebody?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they use the crown of their helmet? You know

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<v Speaker 1>Skolsky who's there, that's their defensive leader, and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take him out of the game for targeting?

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<v Speaker 1>Can't there be modification? It doesn't have to be black

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<v Speaker 1>and white with targeting. Can you just say that's a penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if anything changes last night, As

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I likened it to the Kansas City Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>that LSU offense, or maybe the Chiefs are the other

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<v Speaker 1>shoe offense depending on how you look at it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>coming and it's just a matter of how much can

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<v Speaker 1>you withstand. And Clemson couldn't withstand that, and they had

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<v Speaker 1>nobody who could cover Chase. I mean, I felt bad

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<v Speaker 1>for that defensive back who I think is considered a

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<v Speaker 1>first round talent. Mclovin is that right, was considered Dan

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<v Speaker 1>it's a redundant. If he's an LSU defensive back, he's

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<v Speaker 1>considered a first round talent. Seems like it's automatic. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's Clemson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If he was LSU, then

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be a first round talent. Early onto the game,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some Clemson stats pore our tour. This defense

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<v Speaker 1>is stopped everybody from doing it, like record setting defense.

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<v Speaker 1>That man that didn't last And the anti Joe Burrows

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<v Speaker 1>sentiment the first ten minutes was humorous. That went away fast,

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<v Speaker 1>went away really fast there. Yeah, back into Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence ing, what do you do with the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Burrow had a bad season when he was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two years old? You know, last year he was

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen touchdowns, five picks, like fifty six percent, Like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you just disregard that the what do you do with

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<v Speaker 1>the one yearness of this Burrow? But I have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at it differently than you're looking at it. That

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<v Speaker 1>he got better, but he was twenty three. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you look at everybody else can get better?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you could break it. I could ask Rick

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<v Speaker 1>new Heisman when he joins his you know, coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in ten minutes from now. But I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>you get better. Did Trevor Lawrence get better this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not, okay, but he had a great year. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like thirty eight touchdowns, six picks. Okay, But are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to be critical of him that he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as good or as valuable as freshman year? But he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a stinker like Joe Burrow as a junior

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<v Speaker 1>though it wasn't even the same. Yeah, but Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't held in high regard like Trevor Lawrence is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be the first round pick since he got on

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<v Speaker 1>campus there even prior to that, Joe Burrow had to

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<v Speaker 1>he lost the job at Ohio State and then transferred

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<v Speaker 1>to LSU. He was an afterthought. Nobody knew anything about him.

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<v Speaker 1>How you say, I mean that's been the knock on

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<v Speaker 1>him all year, like what happened? Why? And you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>who has a Why is he so different with this

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff and he was last year? Well he's got weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, he's got a ton of confidence. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not lacking in confidence there. And I just think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the game comes to you at a different time

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<v Speaker 1>in your life, and it felt like the game came

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Players of all in all sports, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about when the game slows down and you see it differently.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like Joe Burrow, even under duress, he has

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of Russell Wilson in him, even though

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<v Speaker 1>he's a couple inches taller than him. But when he

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<v Speaker 1>gets pressure, he squats down and then he's always running forward.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't run to the side, and he's accurate, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had composure. Last night when it started, it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like he was slipping away a little bit there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had the big touchdown pass. I don't know, he

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<v Speaker 1>just he seemed to make for every question you had,

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<v Speaker 1>he had an answer. Although some people are saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy has it all. He's got the hair, the talent,

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<v Speaker 1>he won, he's got the name, he's got the Heisman,

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<v Speaker 1>Please save him from the Bengals. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's gonna go you know, on second thought, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go to the Bengals there. He's

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<v Speaker 1>an Ohio guy. Unless the Nation gets involved and says

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to go there. Yes, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate question. He did enough where he can sort

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<v Speaker 1>of write his own ticket. You don't think he pulls it,

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<v Speaker 1>considers pulling an Eli Manning here. No, No, I would

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised if he did. Like, Okay, so where's he going?

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<v Speaker 1>Then he's not gonna go to Washington, not gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to the Giants, Miami Vegas, Jo Vegas, Joe Vegas, Joe Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see that happen. He's an Ohio guy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>done everything right. I don't think you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it took Eli a long time to get

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<v Speaker 1>over the fact that, oh, you thought you were too

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<v Speaker 1>good to go to the Chargers. He was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the right move, It was the right move. Yeah, John Elway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>other questions here, Um, we'll dive into the Astro stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a whole segment that's gonna take over when

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<v Speaker 1>we do it. Because I was going to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>if if Baseball's punishment for the Astros was appropriate, too

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<v Speaker 1>harsh or not harsh enough. I do think Baseball could

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<v Speaker 1>have gone a lot tougher on the Astros. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the Astros were tougher on the Astros than Baseball was

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<v Speaker 1>because they fired you know, the GM and the coach here,

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<v Speaker 1>the manager, I thought baseball And Keith Oberman is leading

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<v Speaker 1>the charge here. And Keith, one of the great baseball historians,

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<v Speaker 1>just tweeted out he thinks that the Astros should vacate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give it to you right now. Here's Keith's tweet. Bluntly,

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<v Speaker 1>this is insufficient, insomuch as Commissioner Ford Frick said in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two, he would have forfeited the Bobby Thompson game.

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<v Speaker 1>If there were proof of cheating in twenty seventeen, the

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<v Speaker 1>Al Pennant and World Series Championship should be vacated. No

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<v Speaker 1>winners named. Good luck with that. But I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no players are involved in this. You know the punishment

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<v Speaker 1>because the players have a union. Managers don't have a union.

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<v Speaker 1>Gms don't have a union. And I think the that

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<v Speaker 1>no players are being indicted here, including Carlos Beltroun, who's

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<v Speaker 1>now with the Mets. Can he'd be punished now that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a manager and not a player. Yeah, Paul, what

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<v Speaker 1>if baseball allows the Mets to cheat? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>like to get them back to even you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna let you guys do this for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>beef like a year and a half, two years, do

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<v Speaker 1>that cheating thing. See what happened. They'd still find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to screw that up. But we'll talk about the Astros.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Justice, the great baseball writer and rights for the

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<v Speaker 1>Houston Chronicle. He will talk about the afters. Jimmy Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>now a Hall of Famer, will join us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on. Reggie Miller and Rick Neuheisl For some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>Polly has a live camera feed from Bourbon Street. We've

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<v Speaker 1>been fascinated by that. There's not much going on on

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<v Speaker 1>Bourbon Street right now, not now, Dan, but when I

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<v Speaker 1>clicked on this at six seventeen am, there are still

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<v Speaker 1>some people going. Oh, I would imagine now there's some

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<v Speaker 1>people that looks shaky and shady, let's put that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there people that might be waking up in places

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<v Speaker 1>where they didn't think they'd be sleeping, People that look

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<v Speaker 1>like their clothes are and tatters. There's some people though,

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<v Speaker 1>that are like fresh and clean and on their way

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<v Speaker 1>to the airport. It's a great feed. How did you

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<v Speaker 1>find this? Well, there's live cams just about anywhere. He

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<v Speaker 1>could find stuff. I was like, I wonder what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in Bourbon Street at six am because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a curfew down. Do you just google live

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<v Speaker 1>camera on Bourbon Street exactly exactly? It was. It's pretty fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked that there was a truck that just pulled

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<v Speaker 1>up and parked right in the intersection. My daughter asked

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<v Speaker 1>me a question. My daughter's watched the game last night,

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter Molly, she's eight, and she asked me a

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<v Speaker 1>question this morning. I said, you know, the game ran

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<v Speaker 1>really late last night, but LSU w in the LSU

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<v Speaker 1>fans are really happy and the game isn't you know

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<v Speaker 1>in New Orleans? And she goes, do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>the fans had cake to celebrate after the game or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it's too late to have cake? And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I think they had a lot of cake,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did last night. They cake. Richard Justice Snell

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a poll question Rick Neuheisel, I'll ask

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<v Speaker 1>him that question. If the draftword today, Trevor Lawrence or

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<v Speaker 1>back Joe has it looks launches towards the end zoll

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<v Speaker 1>touch down l twenty fort yard touchdown pass. Add another

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<v Speaker 1>did Joe Burrow jip Terris Marshall his first reception for

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<v Speaker 1>passing touchdowns. Joe Burrow throws for sixty touchdowns in this season.

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<v Speaker 1>He also rushed for fifty eight yards through for four

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty three. Trevor Lawrence failed to throw a touchdown pass,

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<v Speaker 1>know I wanted to put up? Was the penalty for

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<v Speaker 1>the Astros appropriate? Not harsh enough or two harsh? How

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<v Speaker 1>do people have done this too? I'm just curious. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have an idea of what people think? I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure where if you're a football first hour? Okay, astros

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<v Speaker 1>second hour, since we'll talk to Richard Justice a great

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<v Speaker 1>baseball right, well, let's do Burrow versus Trevor Lawrence? Who

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<v Speaker 1>would you draft? To start off that? Okay, Rick Newhischel,

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<v Speaker 1>CBA Sports College football analyst in attendance in the game

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<v Speaker 1>for the game last night, he joins us, Rick, good morning,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us. Let me start with the question

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<v Speaker 1>that we're kind of pondering. If the draft were today

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<v Speaker 1>and both Trevor Lawrence and obviously Joe Burrow were eligible,

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<v Speaker 1>who would you take if he were running the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking Joe Burrow. I think the guy minus maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the ninety five mile an hour fastball. The guy is

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<v Speaker 1>completely in control, completely. He has the ability to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go back to sophomore class in high school, just

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<v Speaker 1>dissects the opponent. I mean, you remember what we did

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<v Speaker 1>to those frogs. He's done it to defenses over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again. This guy is special. What changed after the

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<v Speaker 1>first quarter for Burrow last night. Well, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Brent Bennables give him a lot of credit. He was

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<v Speaker 1>going to play very, very tight in those underneath zones,

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<v Speaker 1>very aggressive man when they were in zone, even playing

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<v Speaker 1>man in zone kind of concepts catch concepts down there,

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<v Speaker 1>making it very difficult to throw the easy throws that

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<v Speaker 1>have been so you know, the usual for Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had to go down the field, and that

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two yard passed to Chase broke things open. At

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the second half, they had three cover

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<v Speaker 1>zero plays and two of them resulted in sacks, the

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<v Speaker 1>other almost a near pick, and then they went back

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<v Speaker 1>down the field again. So once Burrow and that brain

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<v Speaker 1>trust on their offensive staff realized how competitive they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in those underneath zones, they started going

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<v Speaker 1>down the field and the rest, as they say, is history. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to you a couple of weeks ago and

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<v Speaker 1>you compared Joe Burrow I think more athletic Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of reaction did you get after you said that? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a bunch of folks saying to me that

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<v Speaker 1>that's nuts, that's crazy. But it's amazing how things come

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>around Dan that I still absolutely stand by that, this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he has the perfect compliment of weapons. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got all the different abilities that we look for in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of pocket presence, the ability to move in the pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>extend plays. His accuracy is unquestioned, his anticipation skills. But

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>he also has a dad that's a defensive coordinator that

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>sits there and you know, has taught him all to

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<v Speaker 1>tell it if he's though in a poker game that

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>knows everybody's cards, and his ability to manipulate the secondary,

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>get what he wants and then throw accurately is off

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<v Speaker 1>the charts. How do you think Joe Burrows Seethan's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be remembered in NCAA history. Oh, it's one of

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the all time greats. Everybody's gonna, you know, wonder who

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 1>can have the Borough effect? This guy I was sixteen

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>touchdown passes and ten interceptions a year ago. He just

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>threw sixty touchdown pass If we just took his improvement,

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>he would have let the country touchdown pass. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was changed because we looked at him and he seemed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, average last year. What changed is a couple

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 1>of things. Number One, Joe Brady brought in some more formations,

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>some New Orleans Saints formations, a lot of constricted formations

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>where you bring the receivers closer to the edge line.

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.199
<v Speaker 1>They went to five man protection, so Qlyde Edwards Zulaire,

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>instead of sitting there helping, a tackle was now out

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.120
<v Speaker 1>as an escape hatch, so they were able to save

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of plays. Burrow was thorough in terms of

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>knowing everything there was to know about the offense and

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>making sure all those pieces around him knew everything there

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>was to know about the offense. And maybe most importantly,

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>they gave him the keys to the car. He was

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>allowed to manipulate the protections when he saw things. He

0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>was allowed to change from run to pass or pass

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to run. He was given the keys to the car

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and allowed to make it go, and that, to me

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>is going to be the key at the next level.

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>This guy is really, really intelligent, and if you give

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 1>him some autonomy at the line of scrimmage, you're going

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>to be happy with the results. He's Rick neewhisl CBS

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Sports College Football on US and of course a former

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>college coach. The helmet to helmet head there should be

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>great area with this. It feels like it's black or white,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know you're going to send somebody out

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<v Speaker 1>of a national title game. You know what is intentional targeting,

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>what is accidental targeting, and should there be a discrepancy

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<v Speaker 1>between the two. You have hit the nail on the head.

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>We have to go as soccer does with the red

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>flag and the yellow flower, red card and the yellow card.

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>You have to do it. Because Skowski in this game

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been ejected. By anybody's accounts, that's just hard

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>playing football. We all understand by letter of the law

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>what happened Sean Wade in the Ohio State Clemson game

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:01.120
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been ejected. Those kids are playing hard, they're

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>making good football plays. Certainly, we can continue to teach

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>fundamentals and keeping your head up, but there has to

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>be a grade of targeting those If you'd need to

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>throw a flag and you need to march off fifteen yards,

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>so be it so that we continue to teach the

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>proper fundamentals about keeping your eyes up. But Tod walked

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>those guys out of a stadium in that kind of setting,

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>given the way they are playing and what they meant

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.959
<v Speaker 1>to their respective teams, is ridiculous. More likely to be

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.360
<v Speaker 1>back in the National Title game next year. Between these

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 1>two programs, Oh Clemson, Miles Brennan the backup quarterback at

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Las year and now the Air Apparent has got some

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:42.479
<v Speaker 1>big shoes to fill. And Trevor Lawrence now tasting defeat

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>for the first time. He was twenty four, twenty five

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and ol going into the game last night, is going

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to have a great offseason. He'll be motivated, They'll keep

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>working with him. You know, that was just a footwork

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>issue last night. He was a little uncomfortable in the pocket.

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>The ball was sailing on him. But he's got all

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the skills to be the first pick a year from now.

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Why was Nick Saban there? Aside from the obvious that

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>he got hired by ESPN, But would you want to

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>be there? If you're Nick Saban and you're not playing

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>in the National title game, you didn't even get into

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the final four. It's an interesting question. I listen they

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>ask him, and I think they've got plans for him

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>after his coaching career. The question is how much longer

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>does Nick want to go? The draw of that kind

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>of stage probably is the reason why he was why

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>he was there, but it's it's it's a great question.

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know any of us know exactly how long

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban wants to go, but nothing motivates him more

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>than defeat. And that a couple of losses this year

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>is going to Rankle and his crouse, they say, And

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I think we'll see Alabama back amongst the elite very

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>very soon. Why was he wearing blue? She didn't like

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the color? You thought it clashed? Maybe? No, no, no,

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I like you realize, I like this lady was going

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to wear a very very u you know, coordinated color

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 1>with him. So maybe he was working that angle. Yeah.

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I got obsessed over Saban being there. But when

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I saw him in blue and I got I thought, God,

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't didn't know he had any other colors in there.

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Excep for Crimson, his sport coach designer is let's just say,

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:22.719
<v Speaker 1>not not afraid to take chances. The top eleven college

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>football players of all time was revealed at halftime. Got

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>any problems with this list? I really didn't. Obviously, we

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>have seen a transition from the running back to the quarterback.

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Is time marches on. As you saw the running backs

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>counted off in those final four and it was fun

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to be in attendance and hear the uh the ovations

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>for the different guys, herschel Walker getting a monster ovation

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're an SEC country. Would you put Joe Burrow

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>in that group right now based off of one season?

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Because I look now, I'm I'm going to let it

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>settle because Barry Sanders is in there. Barry Sanders is

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in there for one season. Jim Brown had one great season.

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's syracused. Herschel had a few. Bo Jackson

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>had the Heisman Trophy season. Yeah, I'm just curious about that.

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>That this. If you look, I got running back, Jim Brown,

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>herschel Walker running back, Bo Jackson running back, Archie Griffin

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>running back, Jim Thorpe running back, Red Grains running back,

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Earl Campbell running back. That's the That's the top seven

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>players in college football history. Then I go with Dick

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Buck as the defensive player. Been another running back, then

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 1>another running back, Barry Sanders, Gale Stairs. I got one.

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I want Tim Tebow. I think should have been in there,

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and I thought he was going to be one, believe

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:44.479
<v Speaker 1>it or not, no argument from me, But as I

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>sit there and I think historically it's It's really kind

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>of fascinating how the rules have changed the game, such

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact that now the quarterback is the key component,

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>because obviously, as we go back in time, it was

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the running back that led all things. So it's just

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>an interesting perspective of history of our game. And I'm

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>with you that quarterbacks should have been included as we

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>look back in one hundred and fifty years of college football.

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Stay travel is always great to talk to you, Rick.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, all right, my friend, I'm gonna try to

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>slip out of the big obc here. Okay, good luck.

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.959
<v Speaker 1>Rick Neuheisel's CBS Sports college football analyst. I always learned

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>something when I talked to him. He's a bright offensive

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>mine is certainly at the quarterbacking position, having played that

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>position when he was in college. Yeah, I was just

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>wondering about that. What is this list going to look

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>like twenty five years from now if they do another

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>list like this. Johnny Manzell's season, I mean he had two,

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>he had one spectacular season, he had another really good season.

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Tebow in there. Joe Burrow would be on this list right,

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>It feels like he would be. If Barry sand is there,

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and look Barry was spectacular for one year, and I

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know what this is based on. Herschel was the

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>real deal, and he might have been. O. J. Simpson

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>would probably be in here for me, having watched him

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and probably one of the first players I saw where

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I went, boy that that guy is different than everybody else.

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I would probably have him in there. Archie one back

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>to back, Heisman's um. You know. See, we get into

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>these lists and then all of a sudden you start

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>being critical of somebody, and then you know, it defeats

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the purpose of celebrating somebody. Yeah, p Well, like Jim

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Brown was number one. When I saw Herschel number two,

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, they're going Tebow. They went this list.

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>By the way, it was rapid, so he had about

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a beat to realize. I'm like, oh, Herchel two, it

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>should be Tebow one. Jim Brown never ran for a

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand yards in a college football season. Now, there's eight

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>games back then, but he was a very good player. Obviously.

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>OJ Simpson they didn't put on there because they didn't

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>want to invite him because he's aligible to attend. Well,

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>there's no reason O. J. Simpson is not on us list.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>He had a better college career, the Barry Center's career,

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and he would have shown up too, no one O, Yes,

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>of course he would. Hey, I want to thank you.

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I could be on it here and the big easy.

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>What's his opening line to Twitter? Hey? Twitter world? No,

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Twitter World, it is me your frand og. Imagine people

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>running like away if you watched the game last night,

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>like two magnets, people are running from OJ introduced him

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>by that and didn't run. Yes, mclovin, which I put

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Vince Young. I had a tebow too. By the way,

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>He's right. I mean he's a good argument, or you

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 1>could make an argument. What do you think of do

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>has a saying? There's two different areas though, where there's

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback here in the running back area, it almost

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>feels like a different sport that Earl Campbell was playing

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>in the way Tim Tebow is well, the seventies, sixties,

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>seventies and eighties, it's running backs. I mean, you had

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<v Speaker 1>guys who ran for two Oklahoma State has a running

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>back who ran for two thousand yards, right, nobody knows him,

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Chubby Cuba, Hubby. I don't think it's I think it's

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Ruby Hubby. Yea, yeah, there you go. Yeah, you have

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>for two thousand yards. Nobody knows what you guys brought.

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Ron Dade, I'm like every other Wisconsin running back right after.

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I hate the go system. But Jonathan Taylor and Melvin

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 1>gor those guys did the same thing Ron Day did.

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's just certain that Jonathan Taylor and he's

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 1>got like eleven thousand yards, doesn't he something? But like,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, like crazy stuff. Tony Dorsett has six thousand,

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Ricky Wadhams has sixty three hundred. They should be on

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the list. Jim Brown's in for his pro career. This

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>does feel like a pro list, but it doesn't it

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>if Barry Sanders didn't have a pro career or not

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 1>a great pro career, a good pro career. His his

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>one college season was unbelievable. But see, it's hard when

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 1>you do this because then all of a sudden you're

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>critical of somebody or saying somebody else should be in there,

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and I don't. Yeah, wasn't Billy Sims and Marcus should

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>be much bigger stars than Barry. I mean, Billy Simms

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>was certainly a bigger star. Marcus was because of the recruitment,

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.399
<v Speaker 1>but he was only there a year and a half.

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Then he went to the USFL. Billy Simms was a

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>big deal. I mean, if you were an Oklahoma running

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>back in the seventies and eighties, you were a big deal.

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 1>And Barry was at Oklahoma State and then he came

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>in after Thurman Thomas. Yeah, it's it's a list that

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you go. Okay, I mean, Roger Staubach won the Heisman

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and was unbelievable and was probably that run pass option

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>before there was a run pass option that we thought of.

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>But is he the greatest college quarterback of all time?

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Because that's what you're saying, he's the only quarterback that's

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 1>in there. Yeah. I still think Herschel is number one.

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I really don't think it's close because Herschel was household

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>name at eighteen, won a national title at eighteen because

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of him, and he left one year early. But even

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>with just three years, he could have won three. Heisman's

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>easy deserved it. Well, they weren't giving it to underclassman

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>back then, which I railed against because it was like,

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 1>if he's the best player, and I go back to

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Marshall Falk his freshman year, where you go, that guy's

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Adrian Peterson like, if they're the best player, then they

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>should win the Heisman. You don't have to wait till

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you're a junior. And Herschel could have won it all

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>three years as great as he was. And Herschel was

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 1>larger than life. He was very famous before social media,

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 1>before ESPN. His first year was nineteen eighty and ESPN

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>really didn't get hot till eighty two. All right, we'll

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>take a break. Play of the day coming up, we'll

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>get to phone calls. We'll settle on our poll question. Well,

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 1>we did settle on our poll question. Yeah, we put

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>up on dp dot com, dpshow app. Who would you

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.479
<v Speaker 1>take a few an NFL team? Kever Lawrence is Joe Burrow,

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>And it goes back to I'm looking at something, now,

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>do I believe that it's real and doesn't translate to

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, because that's what you're looking at With Joe Burrow,

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence. I think people are probably convinced that he

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 1>will be a great pro. You're not quite sure with

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow, even though Burrow put up maybe the greatest

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>single season efficiency wise that a quarterbacks ever turned in

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Yon eleven. I think recency bias. I mean like Trevor

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence was like when Nucleus was hitting the mascot last night,

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>he could not hit it. He why was he overthrowing

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 1>by so far? I don't know how often he faced

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>pressure like that. I mean he's in the ACC And

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>how many times are you down by fourteen points or

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>something where you gotta make something happen. You're telling me

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Wake fourth doesn't get after you like that or not

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 1>not too often. I don't think ah that Wake defensive.

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I could give Wake fifteen players and they might not

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 1>get after you like that. But also LSU, you're playing

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>at LSU. Now, Oh, let me see Chritzie just sent

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>me Jonathan Taylor from Wisconsin's official number A six thousand,

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seventy four. Thank you. It feels like

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>eleven thounds though, and then he's declared for the draft,

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 1>so he'll be he'll be three and done there at Wisconsin.

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>But doesn't every Wisconsin running back get it? It's mandatory,

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>you gotta have four yards four thousand for your career.

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 1>They all actually turned out to be okay pros. James

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:20.479
<v Speaker 1>White's pretty good, Melvin Gordon's pretty good. Yeah, Ron Dane

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a great pro career. He was a big disappointment,

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't He is Dane the all time leading roaster. You know,

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I was looking this up recently. There's some controversy about

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>which games count for Dane. Do you count all the

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.879
<v Speaker 1>postseason games? I think he is a stating, but there's

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>different measurements about it. Whether you know how they play,

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>like sixteen games to us and number now that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>life meets legal. Yeah, I'm wondering Lebron's gonna end up

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<v Speaker 1>But what's Lebron gonna end up with he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be top five in scoring? Will he be top five

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>in assists? I don't know where he'd be with rebounds

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 1>and steals. Yeah, I McLevin so I got magic as

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>fifth and assists at ten thousand, one hundred and forty one.

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Lebron's at nine thousand and sixty seven, so he's about

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 1>a thousand hind Okay, I think he's very doable for sure. Yes,

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Lebron's gonna get over five hundred just this year and

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 1>in counting because this is gonna be one of his

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>better years, best year of his career for assists, he's

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.760
<v Speaker 1>there in ten point seven, yeah, and pluses he gets older,

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>you know he's going to probably continue this rule as

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>long as Anthony Davis is there. But I do think

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 1>it's worth watching what the Lakers do because it feels

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>like everybody is for sale in that lineup except for

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Lebron and Anthony Davis, because they're looking at who were

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>we going to add here to make us I mean,

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>they're already a great team, very good team, but it

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>feels like Rob Polinka, their GM is open for business,

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>including Kyle Kuzma. Yeah, if Lebron plays even just two

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 1>more seasons at this general pace. At worst he's third

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>behind Stockton, and kid, he'll he'll pass Steve Nash versus

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>for third place? What about Steel? Now? People don't I

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>mean John Stockton I think is your old time Steele's leader.

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anybody cares about that number. But

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:55.399
<v Speaker 1>assist and points Lebron top five score of all time. McLevin, Yes, okay,

0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:00.280
<v Speaker 1>he's fifty eighth and rebounding. But who can he hound

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>on the all time scoring list? There can he get?

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's Kareem Malone, Novitski. Those are the three? Uh No,

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I have it as Kareem Malone, Kobe Lebron, then Jordan

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>then nos can he get Kobe? Oh yeah, I mean

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>he will this within a month. And with Actually, if

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the right numbers, he's about one hundred

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and ten points away, so he'd be three on the

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>all time list. Yeah. Then Carmelo's at thirty six thousand

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.399
<v Speaker 1>and certainly get that, so it looks like he's Yeah,

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and then Kareem's only at thirty eight seems very doable. Yeah,

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>rebounds he's a little farther behind, but he's he's clessed

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>in he's gonna have an impressive rebound number two like

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>top thirty. At least update the poll results if you can, Okay,

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>if you could take if you're an FL team, you

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 1>could take Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow sixty four percent.

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Say Joe Burrow, Okay, it's a little bit of recency

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>buyas if Trevor Lawrence and clemsoned one last night, then

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>what would those numbers? They'd be probably flipped. I mean,

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Burrow's guarantee one, you guys keep saying, and I'm starting

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>to buy it. Trevor Lawrence is not a guaranteed number

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:12.479
<v Speaker 1>one anymore. Well, we have a bet, yep, we gotta

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. We have a shower shame wheeld punishment.

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>We have a bet, but maybe maybe the loser has

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>to wear a Trevor Lawrence like wig during the entire show. Oh,

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I like that, and you can flip it back. I

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>mean about Ohio State quarterback Justine a run. But there

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 1>might be somebody who appears out of note. I mean,

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>this is just who thought Joe Burrow existed? Who thought

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield? Of Kyler Murray? Who's all Kyler Murray? Would

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>be never warred over. I know we're looking at this

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Ron Dane as the all time rushing leader if you

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 1>include bowl games. But we included the bowl games. For

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow to have the most touchdown passes in a

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>single season with sixty, he passes Colt Brennan who played

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.240
<v Speaker 1>at Hawaii. Remember when in Hawaii used to Timmy Chang.

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they used to have these quarterbacks just like

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech did where they figured out June Jones figured

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 1>it out, just like Mike Leach figured it out. Yes,

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>paul In Barry standers in nineteen eight eight, his one

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.399
<v Speaker 1>season of college football, he averaged two hundred and thirty

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 1>yards resident That means if you held him into two ten,

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you had a decent day on defense. Some people are asking,

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 1>why don't we have a reporter on from Los Angeles today,

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:25.760
<v Speaker 1>not somebody from Houston. Well, the reason why the reporter

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>from Houston is on is Richard Justice. That's just where

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 1>he lives. He writes for MLB dot Com. The listener says,

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers and their fans are the injured parties here

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>with the astros. Well, there's no guarantee that you Well,

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 1>then the Yankees are the injured party as well here,

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and if you want to strip him of the World Series,

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I would have no problem with that. I would have

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>no problem. But that doesn't mean they're going to give

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 1>it to you. It's vacated. Did Vince Young get the Heisman?

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:00.919
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Reggie Bush had to give it up? They didn't

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:04.439
<v Speaker 1>give it to Benz Young. Yep, Noil McLevin. I'm looking

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>through it. I can't find a professional title. And in

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 1>North American supports has ever been vacated? They've done it

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>for tons of college things, but has that ever happened?

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it has. The nineteen nineteen black Hawks

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>did win well, but how many teams are are you

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 1>had the black Shots who through the World Series they

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a title. This is a team that cheated

0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 1>to get one to whatever degree. Well, the Patriots are

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:37.520
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