1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bloomberg Law Podcast. I'm June Grosso. Every 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: day we bring you insight and analysis into the most 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: important legal news of the day. You can find more 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: episodes of the Bloomberg Law Podcast on Apple Podcasts, SoundCloud, 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: and on Bloomberg dot com slash podcasts. Well, we're in 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: the home stretch of the Supreme Courts term. We're still 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: waiting for major rulings on the intensely political issues of 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: the census and parties in jerrymandering, among many other cases. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg hinted that sharp divisions will mark 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: the final weeks of the term. Joining me is Bloomberg 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: new Supreme Court reporter of Greg store So Greg. Justice 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: Ginsberg indicated in a speech that we'll be seeing a 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: lot of decisions go down narrow partisan lines. She did, 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: this is an annual speech she gives at the Second 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Circuit UH she's the Circuit Justice for for that that 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: covers New York and some other states. Um And occasionally 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: she said some things that at least seem like their 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: hints as to what's going to come. And she mentioned 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: that about a quarter of the cases decided so far, 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I've been either five to four or five to three, 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: and she said, I'm not sure I can predict that 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: that low percentage will hold as we decide the last 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: couple dozen cases. So maybe even more than might that 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 1: account for why we're seeing the decisions which always happens, 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: but the decisions that we've really been waiting for, not 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: only partis in Jerryman during the Senses, but many others 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: in the last weeks here. Yeah, you're right that it 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: does often happen. If the cases were easy, they would 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: decide them more quickly, and that's why sometimes we get 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: a lot of nine nothing decisions earlier in the term, 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: and at the end it's often the cases they've really 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: been struggling with. Uh, we do have a number of 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: cases that look like they could be ideologically divisive. You've 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Gerryman during cases, the Census citizenship question case. Uh, 35 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: there's a case over whether a cross a Fort cross 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: in the Maryland intersection is a violation of the Constitution's 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: Religion Clause. All those cases could be pretty divisive. So 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: the Court did announce some decisions today about what cases 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: to add for the term that starts in October. Let's 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: start with the Supreme Court agreeing to use a Montana 41 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: case to consider shielding companies from pollution cleanup suits. Yeah, 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: this is a case involving VPS Atlantic rich Field. Uh 43 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: the uh it's a lawsuit about a super fun site 44 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: up there. The e p A years ago set up 45 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: a plan to clean it up, and there are some 46 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: property owners who uh say that they want more than 47 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: what might be coming to them under the p A plan. 48 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: They want Uh there's arsenic that's in the soil. They 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: want to have more soil removed. They want to have 50 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: it shipped further away. And so the question for the 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: Supreme Court is whether that kind of lawsuit can go 52 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: forward even in the face of an ep A plan 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: to do a little bit less remediation. And what did 54 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: the lower court rule? The lower court said the lawsuit 55 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: could go forward. Atlantic Richfield asked the Supreme Court to 56 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: hear the case. So we're now in the position where 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: the company could limit the type of lawsuits that a 58 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: federal appeals court allowed. Another one that may limit lawsuits 59 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: is a consideration of making it harder to press some 60 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: types of civil rights suits. Yeah, this is a case 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: involving Comcast. It's being sued by a black owned media 62 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: company called Entertainment Studios Network owned by Byron Allen, and 63 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: his allegation is that Comcast, like some other cable companies, 64 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: refused to carry his his programming, so he Mr. Allen 65 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: is black. His company has a number of shows that 66 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: he's been trying to get on on cable systems. UH 67 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: Comcast refused it says it has legitimate reasons why it 68 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: didn't want to add those programs his company says. Allen's 69 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: company says no, it was racial discrimination. And he's suing 70 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: under a law that was passed in the reconstruction era 71 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: known as Night one that bars racial discrimination in contracting. 72 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: And the question for the Supreme Court is a somewhat 73 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: technical one, but it's basically, how much does he have 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: to allege in the lawsuit. Does he have to allege 75 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: that racial discrimination was the reason he didn't get the 76 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: contract that he wanted, or is it enough that racial 77 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: discrimination was one of many factors that went into uh 78 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: Comcast decision not to carry his channels. The Court has 79 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: dealt with this issue with other civil rights statutes, and 80 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: now it's going to resolve with regard to Section and 81 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: to finish off the trifecta. Let's talk about the Intel suit. Yeah, 82 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: so there is there's a theme here to at least today. Yeah, 83 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: where the three Records is agreeing to hear a bunch 84 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: of the kind of meat and potatoes cases that that 85 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: Corporate America likes them to take to limit lawsuits. Uh. 86 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: The Intel one has to do with worker retirement plans 87 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: and the deadlines for workers to sue. And so basically, 88 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: an ex employee says Intel was making overly risky investments, 89 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: too much money and hedge funds, too much money in 90 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: private equity, and he sued. And there's a three year 91 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: statute of limitations in federal law. And he says that 92 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: three year period doesn't start running until I have actual 93 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: knowledge about what the investments are. Uh. Intel says, no, 94 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: it's not actual knowledge. Look, we sent you the documents, uh, 95 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: well more than three years ago, and you didn't look 96 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: at them. And uh so that's when the three years 97 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: ought to start running. When we sent you these documents 98 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: that you had access to electronically. Uh. It is one 99 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: of now two cases involving retirement plans that the court 100 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: has got to hear. It also, just a week or 101 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: two ago agreed to hear a case involving IBM having 102 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: to do again with how specific the allegations have to 103 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: have to be in a lawsuit. And together these two 104 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: cases could make it more difficult for employees to press 105 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: suits over the investments in the retirement plan. And Greg, 106 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: this is known as a pro business court. So does 107 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: it seem as if they're taking these cases in order 108 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: to limit lawsuits? And at least some cases it does. Uh. 109 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: You know, in some cases there is some lower court disagreement, 110 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: and that that's always a reason the Supreme Court might 111 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: want to get involved. But um, it's also fair to 112 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: say that it's this court is quicker to and and 113 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: and what happened today shows this a little quicker to 114 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: hear appeals that are pressed by businesses trying to clear 115 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: up some lower court disagree mint. Uh, So I think 116 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: if I were the companies in these cases, I might 117 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: think that I'm at least starting with a bit of 118 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: a lead. Now, the Court decided not to take up 119 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: a case in violent involving guns, silence or registration. Tell 120 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: us about that. Yes, And there's a federal law that 121 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: requires if you if you're buying or or selling a gun, 122 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: silence or they there's a federal law that imposes a 123 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: two tax and requires registration of it. And there are 124 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: two appeals filed by two men from Kansas, one who 125 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: bought a silence or one who sold the silence, or saying, 126 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: among other things, that's a violation of the Second Amendment, Uh, 127 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: that I have a right to own a silence or 128 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: to sell a silence or without the kind of restrictions 129 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: that are being put on me by the federal registration requirement. 130 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: And the Supreme Court simply refused to hear those appeals, 131 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: didn't make any comment. Uh. And so for now, at least, 132 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: the registration requirement stands. All right. Thanks so much, Greg. 133 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: We'll probably be checking back with you later this week 134 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: because we still could get some opinions this week. That's 135 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg New Supreme Court reporter of Greg Store. Thanks for 136 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: listening to the Bloomberg Law podcast. You can subscribe and 137 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: listen to the show on Apple Podcasts, SoundCloud, and on 138 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot com slash podcast. I'm June Brasso. This is 139 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg