Speaker 1: On the kind of three. We both tell say how
Speaker 1: many times we've shared our pants as an adult? Okay, one, two,
Speaker 1: three thirty?
Speaker 2: Probably I've shipped my pants a lot. Me too, really?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Tash Shaw Tosh Show to show. It's
Speaker 1: podcast time and I'm your host, Daniel Tosh, host of
Speaker 1: the Toss Show podcast, the only podcast that is non smoking,
Speaker 1: pet friendly and queer friendly. A lot going on, Eddie,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Uh? The show has hit the mainstream.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Cats out of the bag. The show has finally reached
Speaker 1: my mother. I never told her that I was doing
Speaker 1: a podcast, and the other day she calls me up
Speaker 1: and she goes, Daniel, I've got two things to tell you,
Speaker 1: all right, what is it? She goes one, it's illegal
Speaker 1: in the state of Florida to record someone over the phone.
Speaker 1: And I started laughing, and she goes getting ready for this.
Speaker 1: She goes two, I'd like to be the intern. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's what she said.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: She wants to be the intern. I said, I don't know, Mom,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna move out here and you're not good
Speaker 1: at stuff, so but we'll think about it. I had
Speaker 1: never brought the show up to her, honest to God,
Speaker 1: and and and now I know that she listens, and
Speaker 1: you know what she said about it. She goes, oh, man,
Speaker 1: it's just so many swear words. You're just swearing constantly.
Speaker 1: So now now that I know she's listening, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be thinking about that. And now now I feel like
Speaker 1: this show's not gonna be as free as it once
Speaker 1: was because I've I've got that, I've got that little
Speaker 1: thing on my shoulder. What is that little Margo cancer? No,
Speaker 1: little Margo? Speaking of mothers was I was in Palm
Speaker 1: Springs last week at the Indian Wells Tennis tournament, and
Speaker 1: anytime a female tennis player is in it is playing
Speaker 1: and she's a mother, they make such a big deal
Speaker 1: about it, like, oh, look at a mother competing as
Speaker 1: a professional athlete. And I'm just not that impressed. Now
Speaker 1: a grandmother, that's that's something to brag about. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: there was a grandmother still competing as a pro tennis player,
Speaker 1: but just a mother. I know, having a child is
Speaker 1: a major ordeal. But once you've recovered and and your
Speaker 1: your back to your old physical shape and training, it's like,
Speaker 1: we don't know if you're a good mom, right, make
Speaker 1: me a shitty mom that just has somebody else doing everything.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even saying that that means that you're
Speaker 1: a shitty mom. But I'm just saying I just don't.
Speaker 1: It's not that I need to know all the circumstances
Speaker 1: for me to be like I can't believe. And she's
Speaker 1: playing tennis. I mean, my mom's played tennis every day
Speaker 1: of her life. You don't see me singing her praises.
Speaker 1: What a hero you raised us and you went out
Speaker 1: and played tennis today. Ran into Michelle. We've had her
Speaker 1: on the show. That interview is coming up soon. It's
Speaker 1: nice to see her. She introduced me to her husband,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my goodness, you look just like
Speaker 1: your logo Djokovic. I don't care where you stand politically,
Speaker 1: but if you like Djokovic, you're dead to me. I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan of Novak Djokovic. And he lost to
Speaker 1: the lucky loser in the second round. Now, he's the
Speaker 1: undisputed goat of tennis, and he lost to the lucky loser.
Speaker 1: You know, the lucky loser is he's he's the guy
Speaker 1: that didn't even get into the tournament. But somebody dropped
Speaker 1: out and then he got to fill their place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he upset joke and then immediately in the next
Speaker 1: round he just got his ass kicked. But whatever it was,
Speaker 1: it was a life changing moment for him. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Do I remember his name, No, not at all, but
Speaker 1: he's an American. I think I have no idea. I
Speaker 1: came up with a joke. Do you want to hear it?
Speaker 2: Eddie, I do?
Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic, Aaron Rodgers, and Kyrie Irving walk into a bar.
Speaker 1: The bartender pulls out a shotgun and blows his head off. Perfect,
Speaker 1: you get it? Yeah, and then Aaron Rodgers and Djokovic
Speaker 1: look at each other and go, oh, must be one
Speaker 1: of the side effects to the vaccine. Oh. They all laugh,
Speaker 1: and then Elon Musk walks in.
Speaker 2: Good joke.
Speaker 1: It's this joke. I haven't finished it. It's just gonna
Speaker 1: be a long joke. All right, that's enough sports for
Speaker 1: one episode. Let's talk to the founder of a boy
Speaker 1: band cover group, Enjoy Pasha. We've set the studio a
Speaker 1: tempt to ninety eight degrees, so I'm in sync with
Speaker 1: today's guest. He's no new kid on the block, and
Speaker 1: ever Since creating the boy band Project, he's transformed his
Speaker 1: boys to men. While heading in one direction cruise ships,
Speaker 1: please welcome my favorite cover boy band, Mogul Travis.
Speaker 2: Hello, thank you for having me, Thank you for doing this.
Speaker 1: This is my first question I ask all my guests. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you believe in gay ghosts?
Speaker 2: Oh? Gosh, gay ghosts, just ghosts. I don't believe in ghosts, really,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: No, No, I wish I did, but I don' what
Speaker 1: do you mean you wish? But basically what you said
Speaker 1: to me is I wish I was stupid, But I'm
Speaker 1: not stupid. I'm smart.
Speaker 2: I kind of do wish that sometimes. Don't you wish
Speaker 2: that that you didn't know the things that you know
Speaker 2: that you have to know.
Speaker 1: No, I'm okay, all right, So you don't believe in ghosts.
Speaker 1: That's great, I don't, Travis. You grew up in southern California. Yes,
Speaker 1: where I.
Speaker 2: Actually grew up in a little town called Norco. It's
Speaker 2: next to Corona where the ninety one meets the fifteen.
Speaker 1: I get you know it? No, No, I don't know
Speaker 1: the town, but I know the area. But I also
Speaker 1: get confused when people start saying highway numbers. I know
Speaker 1: ninety one goes straight out like to the Inland Empire.
Speaker 2: No, it's in the Inland Empire. Yeah, for sure, I.
Speaker 1: Say, do you ever say Inland Empire? Do you say? I? E?
Speaker 2: I try not to, but I sometimes I have to
Speaker 2: to get the message across.
Speaker 1: Is it conservative out there?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How'd that affect you?
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't really come out until I was nineteen,
Speaker 2: and I knew that I was going to go to
Speaker 2: the East and then I just went crazy over there.
Speaker 2: So I kind of kept a lid on it until
Speaker 2: I went over there because I knew it wouldn't be
Speaker 2: fun in the ie.
Speaker 1: How was he gay?
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no gay bars. There was no gay people
Speaker 2: at school.
Speaker 1: Did you ever date a girl?
Speaker 2: I did? Yeah, she's in this room.
Speaker 1: Actually, I won't get too into the details of that relationship.
Speaker 2: She's married now to a wonderful man named Dylan, who's
Speaker 2: also gay. I haven't heard that. I have heard that.
Speaker 1: Were you obsessed with music growing up?
Speaker 2: Yes? I guess it was just my life. My mom's
Speaker 2: a music teacher. It wasn't like, are you going to
Speaker 2: play an instrument? Is what instrument? Are you going to play?
Speaker 1: Do you play everything? I don't, do you play anything.
Speaker 2: I play the piano and I play the trumpet.
Speaker 1: Kind of the trumpet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'sul I know it really nobody nobody wants to
Speaker 2: hear it. They put it in the back of the
Speaker 2: orchestra because it's loud and annoying. And I wasn't any
Speaker 2: good at all.
Speaker 1: The piano, though, is just wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm furious at my parents. Everyone, my parents, all my
Speaker 1: siblings can all play the piano and I can't play
Speaker 1: the piano. And I asked my mom, why didn't you
Speaker 1: force me to take lessons? And she's like, oh, you
Speaker 1: didn't want to. You never wanted to. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I go, so you just listen. She's like, I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna fight with you to play the piano.
Speaker 2: My mom. I didn't really want to play, but my
Speaker 2: mom was a concert pianist, so she was like, you
Speaker 2: don't get allowance until you play the genius. And so
Speaker 2: now I know how to play, and you're thankful for it.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: I am actually saying how cool is to have a
Speaker 1: piano in your place? Great?
Speaker 2: I actually I don't feel comfortable unless there's an acoustic
Speaker 2: piano in the place that I live. Is that weird?
Speaker 1: No? But I actually just wanted the piano just because
Speaker 1: I like the way it looks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is kind of cool looking, right right, it's sophisticated.
Speaker 1: Like I just want something like cool stand up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like old school, Yes, probably black, I think. Talk to
Speaker 1: me just about you were an off Broadway show Altar Boys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so five hundred app how long did you do that? Ideas?
Speaker 2: So the show ran for five years off Broadway and
Speaker 2: I did the last year and a half of it
Speaker 2: and I did five hundred and fifty five performances. And
Speaker 2: it's a musical about a boy a Catholic boy band
Speaker 2: saving the souls of New York through their singing, singing
Speaker 2: and hip hop dance. It's basically a recreation of a
Speaker 2: boy band concert on stage, but with like a lot
Speaker 2: of like different comedy about the different idiosyncracies of being
Speaker 2: in a boy band and like whatnot if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I did that for a year and
Speaker 2: a half off Broadway closed it.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm just curious, what's your do you have?
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the Catholic Church, what's your stance
Speaker 1: on the Catholic Church. I have a stance on altar boys.
Speaker 2: I have no stance on the on alter boys. Really, like,
Speaker 2: I don't even really know about Catholicism. Besides, like what
Speaker 2: what the lyrics that I had to sing? I mean,
Speaker 2: I grew up like more Pentecostal.
Speaker 1: Sure you know well these two. But I still despise
Speaker 1: everything the Cowtholic church like I would. There's like a
Speaker 1: Catholic church like near a home, and I make my
Speaker 1: kids walk fast past it. Really why, Well, because you
Speaker 1: know who's never been sexually assaulted in a Catholic church?
Speaker 1: Is a kid who's never been inside a Catholic church.
Speaker 2: That's that's a good point.
Speaker 1: So that that's I'm playing those odds only right. I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's one in a billion, you're not going.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Well, people who are not a fan of the ch
Speaker 2: who love the Catholic like the Catholic religion, actually loved
Speaker 2: to show because we did poke fun at it a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people also thought that we
Speaker 2: were ministering to them, which was was bizarre.
Speaker 1: Be straight with me for one moment. The musical rent
Speaker 1: true or false? The worst musical on Broadway.
Speaker 2: False, that was my jam? Are you kidding me? I
Speaker 2: love it. I used to pop in that CD and
Speaker 2: I thought like, oh, yeah, I know, I'm listening to
Speaker 2: rock music. Now this is my jam.
Speaker 1: I married a woman who just listens to the Broadway
Speaker 1: channel on satellite radio all the time, and I just, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just it's not so bad. Well, I mean some
Speaker 1: of it. I get you get into it. You start
Speaker 1: picking favorites real quick. On the count of three, we
Speaker 1: both tell say how many times we've shared our pants
Speaker 1: as an adult? Okay, one, two, three, thirty?
Speaker 2: Too many? I'm thirty. Probably shipped my pants a lot?
Speaker 2: Me too? Really? Oh my god, I really think I
Speaker 2: have a problem. I should talk to a doctor about it.
Speaker 1: What do you do when you're performing? Uh? Like, like,
Speaker 1: has it ever having Broadway? Like you're like, oh.
Speaker 2: No, one time I took a pee break on in
Speaker 2: the middle of a scene in the show once because
Speaker 2: I had to.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about pee about diarrhea.
Speaker 2: Oh I never have to ship on stage.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I thought you said you ship your pants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just daily life though.
Speaker 1: Right, But but your stomach doesn't get upset or nervous
Speaker 1: before a performance, ever, and you have to like empty
Speaker 1: everything out.
Speaker 2: Not that way.
Speaker 1: Oh good for you. You know you're not living my
Speaker 1: life at all. I've been on I've been on a toilet,
Speaker 1: just exploding, and I hear them introducing me, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not coming.
Speaker 2: That's devastating. So what do you do?
Speaker 1: Just let them deal with whatever they got to deal
Speaker 1: with out there.
Speaker 2: Show must go on.
Speaker 1: No it doesn't. The show doesn't go on.
Speaker 2: Show doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Show. The show waits until I'm finished, right, and then
Speaker 1: and then I get out there, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was in the back. It's cocaine.
Speaker 2: And they all laugh, Oh the cokeshits. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't do cocaine. I just say something stupid to
Speaker 1: move on. All right, But it's okay, but you've crapped yourself.
Speaker 1: That's good. Everyone talks about Broadway. It's just a tough
Speaker 1: place to make a living, especially the most expensive city, uh,
Speaker 1: certainly in our country is off Broadway. Even worse, what
Speaker 1: are we looking at? What kind of income can you
Speaker 1: make a on a hit show off Broadway?
Speaker 2: Off Broadway? I was pulling in like one thousand dollars
Speaker 2: a week, which is which is nothing for New York.
Speaker 2: Like we were we felt like rock stars, but we
Speaker 2: were broke as a joke. I mean, we were going
Speaker 2: on TV shows, but we were spending all of our
Speaker 2: money for our studio apartments in Hill's kitchen and barely
Speaker 2: squeaking by. But it was amazing.
Speaker 1: How'd you get into How'd you make the jump? Say? Oh,
Speaker 1: I have an idea this boy band Project.
Speaker 2: I did Alter Boys for a long time, and it
Speaker 2: was I was kind of getting sick of like the
Speaker 2: up and down roller coaster of like, okay, now what
Speaker 2: do I do? Scramble audition and then you get something,
Speaker 2: but then that gig is still like six months away,
Speaker 2: so you got to figure out what to do in
Speaker 2: that time. So I was like, I have all of
Speaker 2: these friends who look like they could be in a
Speaker 2: boy band. Let me keep this going. And I was
Speaker 2: getting a lot of like gigwork because I had a
Speaker 2: certain notoriety from being in that show for so long.
Speaker 2: And so I created my own entity, which is the
Speaker 2: Boyband Project, which is essentially a contemporary boyband cover group.
Speaker 2: So we cover in Sync and Backstreet Boy but with
Speaker 2: like expert Broadway vocals. Choreography and whatnot. It started as
Speaker 2: like a party act and then slowly turned into like
Speaker 2: performing arts centers and cruise ships and now we're here
Speaker 2: in LA.
Speaker 1: Only in sync and backstreet boys? Or do you do
Speaker 1: all the boy bands?
Speaker 2: We do all like the contemporary ones. So it's like
Speaker 2: circa two thousand and ninety two nineties, right, So you
Speaker 2: do LFO.
Speaker 1: We do LFO just just the one song.
Speaker 2: That's the only song that's worth singing. Yeah, Otown?
Speaker 1: What song? Otown? All or Nothing?
Speaker 2: All or Nothing, Liquid Dreams.
Speaker 1: I actually like All or Nothing.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: That's the problem with you know, Like I can listen.
Speaker 1: I appreciate Tool, I like that rock and roll, but
Speaker 1: it's like I still I like All or Nothing by
Speaker 1: O Town.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're well rounded then.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right word, but sure.
Speaker 2: No. It's funny because in high school, like I mean
Speaker 2: I was, I was low key obsessed with these boy bands.
Speaker 2: But so we're like all of my straight friends in choir,
Speaker 2: and we would like we would play all or Nothing
Speaker 2: and just sing like it was like our our everything,
Speaker 2: like this was our freaking song. We'd look into each
Speaker 2: other's eyes and just sing all or nothing to this day, like,
Speaker 2: it's still my favorite song. I created the show, so
Speaker 2: I get to sing what I want to sing, and
Speaker 2: that's the song that I always pick for myself.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 2: I freaking love it.
Speaker 1: I also like the statement my straight friends in choir, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because they were all straight. I mean, it's anya, I think.
Speaker 1: So I don't know this. This isn't a contemporary boy band.
Speaker 1: But do you consider what's you McCall it? What's that
Speaker 1: group that everybody thinks is the greatest band of all time?
Speaker 2: The Beatles?
Speaker 1: The Beatles? Yeah, you consider the Beatles of boy band?
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, Okay, but not like there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people that cover those, you know, And so I
Speaker 2: try to stick to the two decades. No, let's part
Speaker 2: of the group just because nobody else is doing it.
Speaker 1: How many people are in your group?
Speaker 2: So it's four on stage at a time, But I've
Speaker 2: got a roster of like probably about twenty guys in
Speaker 2: New York City that know the show. And so the
Speaker 2: business model that I created, well is that when they're
Speaker 2: not in a Broadway show, like remember how I told you,
Speaker 2: there's usually had six months in between your contracts. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you book the greatest gig ever, but you're still broke
Speaker 2: as a joke until you get there. And so they
Speaker 2: they like, hey, i've got six months off, can you
Speaker 2: put me in a boy band? And so I get
Speaker 2: them gigging on cruise ships. I send them to la.
Speaker 1: What's your thought on cruise ships?
Speaker 2: They're horrid awful. It's tough, right, but the money is
Speaker 2: so good, and they treat if you're a headliner. You're like,
Speaker 2: you've got it made. You're a prince. You get your
Speaker 2: own cabin with a balcony. It's free meals. You we
Speaker 2: do a seven day contract and we do work one
Speaker 2: day and I get paid for the whole week.
Speaker 1: And you're so coming off of of struggling to make
Speaker 1: ends meet in New York City. It's a breath of
Speaker 1: fresh air.
Speaker 2: Oh people. And the boys love it.
Speaker 1: And by the boys, you mean you're the group. Yeah,
Speaker 1: isn't it weird calling the boys though? What's the age?
Speaker 1: What's the age range of your boys?
Speaker 2: I mean anywhere from forty five to down to another direction,
Speaker 2: like twenty three.
Speaker 1: There's no actual boys in the boys band, That's all
Speaker 1: I'm getting at, right.
Speaker 2: It's more of lake. You're all men, yeah, I guess,
Speaker 2: or men that never grew up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you all sexy? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is there any dogs in the bunch? You know, like
Speaker 1: like sometimes I'll like look at I'll stare at like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm in Vegas and you see an ad
Speaker 1: for Thunder from down Under or Magic Mike yea, and
Speaker 1: you look at them together and like all these are
Speaker 1: beautiful men. But then when you start looking at them individually,
Speaker 1: like all right, this guy.
Speaker 2: Is distorting one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy get white evolved?
Speaker 2: Who's he related to? Right?
Speaker 1: Anyway? So are most of you guys all very attractive?
Speaker 1: Was the question?
Speaker 2: Yes, I will say yes.
Speaker 1: Any straight guys in the group, yes, multiple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they don't dance as well?
Speaker 2: What's the rule you have to dance? You know? So
Speaker 2: so generally the guys or the boys that have this
Speaker 2: certain skill set to be in the boy band project
Speaker 2: end up being gay. We've got I've got a lot
Speaker 2: of straight guys who are freaking awesome with it and
Speaker 2: they're just down with what.
Speaker 1: Are they appropriating gay culture?
Speaker 2: No? Because no, because the bands were they were gay,
Speaker 2: they weren't. I mean some you know, sure, Metro maybe
Speaker 2: you know, you know, I think I think there is
Speaker 2: something inherently gay about being in a boy band, maybe
Speaker 2: just because of the ability to express your emotion really freely,
Speaker 2: you know that. Agree, you know there's no stoicism with
Speaker 2: being in a boy band, Then like, why why watch
Speaker 2: them if they're not going to like bear their soul
Speaker 2: to you in a song?
Speaker 1: Speaking of bearing your soul? How have you have you?
Speaker 1: Have you dove into this new Britney Spears book yet? Oh?
Speaker 2: No? No, but I want to.
Speaker 1: Write you no. But every time I read like justin
Speaker 1: Timberlake paid for an abortion, I just get so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what why do I love that head?
Speaker 2: It just makes me so nervous.
Speaker 1: Because you know he's at home right now with his
Speaker 1: wife going fucking shot. This crazy bitch is in sync
Speaker 1: doing a comeback tour. Good for business or bad for business?
Speaker 2: Good for business? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, has Joey Fatone asked to join?
Speaker 2: Not yet? No?
Speaker 1: What's he doing?
Speaker 2: What? What?
Speaker 1: What? What horrible pizza sauce is he selling?
Speaker 2: It's a French onion dip.
Speaker 1: He's got a French onion dip. Oh congratulations? Do you
Speaker 1: ever do any songs? From the ninety eight degree Christmas album.
Speaker 2: Yes this gift, Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: My wife went and saw that show, I think last
Speaker 1: year the year before. She was so excited. And then
Speaker 1: afterwards she was going to meet one of them, but
Speaker 1: she didn't meet the one she had, the one that
Speaker 1: nobody likes, thee Yeah, I know, you only want to
Speaker 1: meet Lee. Yeah, right, And here the brothers.
Speaker 2: It's two brothers, and then the hot one with the muscles.
Speaker 2: He was my favorite one.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But then there's like the other guy
Speaker 1: that just looks like he should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you do you ever sing any girl songs? Or no?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: All right about k pop? Do you ever do any
Speaker 1: k pop songs?
Speaker 2: Not yet?
Speaker 1: I worry. I'm before you put your toe into that arena.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Were there any black boy bands?
Speaker 2: Boys to men?
Speaker 1: You consider them a boy band?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know why I don't because they don't dance.
Speaker 1: They dance. They dance their fucking asses off. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me tell you that that. I say this nicely. The
Speaker 1: fat one, he's not really that fat. He's just slightly
Speaker 1: bigger than the other ones. He's a dancing machine. I
Speaker 1: know this because they opened Uh, they don't. They didn't
Speaker 1: open for me, but they were on the show in
Speaker 1: front of mine in Vegas for many years. But they
Speaker 1: can move. Boy bands always have a specific character for
Speaker 1: each person, the heart throb, the goofy one. Which one
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 2: I'm the boy nextor I didn't know that was one.
Speaker 1: The boy next door? All right? What other what are there?
Speaker 2: So in our group we have the sensitive one, we
Speaker 2: have the bad boy, we have the boy next door,
Speaker 2: and we have the sporty one.
Speaker 1: So the boy next door is really kind of the
Speaker 1: heart throb. That's what I would kind of Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you give yourself that? Do you say I'm taking this one?
Speaker 2: I kind of floated around for a little bit, like
Speaker 2: I wanted it to be an organic choice.
Speaker 1: Really, all right.
Speaker 2: I started as the sensitive one, but then there was
Speaker 2: a guy in the group that was just like, so
Speaker 2: fricking sensitive.
Speaker 1: And so the gay community has criticized your productions for
Speaker 1: not being gay enough. When you originally came out that
Speaker 1: you thought this was who I'm targeting to and that
Speaker 1: was the feedback.
Speaker 2: Or yeah, I mean it started out because because I
Speaker 2: was I just knew so many people in gay entertainment,
Speaker 2: you know, I knew. I like, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I created a show, let me pitch it to the
Speaker 2: venues that I know the people at. So I went
Speaker 2: to the gay places and you.
Speaker 1: Know, I mean, how many drag shows can you have
Speaker 1: before you need to throw in something different?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that. I didn't know if that was
Speaker 1: wrong to say.
Speaker 2: No, no, absolutely, because so we do a show called
Speaker 2: Boyband Brunch in New York, which I call the alternative
Speaker 2: to drag Brunch. But going back to what you said
Speaker 2: about the gay world, it was like it was because
Speaker 2: we weren't really saying, like, our songs weren't about being gay.
Speaker 2: You know, none of the boy band songs are about
Speaker 2: being gay. Your show's not about about being gay. So
Speaker 2: why are you doing this in gay places all the time?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: And then we slowly discovered that we would perform in
Speaker 2: gay places like we we headlined at Gay Ski Week
Speaker 2: and Aspen and.
Speaker 1: I've never been I've been a gay ski Week and
Speaker 1: tell you Ride, which was wonderful. Yeah, but I've never
Speaker 1: been a Gay Ski Week and ask it was fabulous
Speaker 1: that happened on all different resorts.
Speaker 2: Huh oh. Yeah, I had the best outfit for Gay
Speaker 2: Ski Week. It was freaking amazing. Was it was just
Speaker 2: like we we had like, well, one of the guys
Speaker 2: had like a rainbow fur jacket, and then I had
Speaker 2: just this like hot pink jumper. Is that what you
Speaker 2: call it? Like a bib ski bib jumper?
Speaker 1: Thanks? Called ski bib? Is it? Yeah? I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: it is. Oh okay, but I mean you can call.
Speaker 2: It jump, but it's sure okay ski bib. Yeah. It
Speaker 2: was fabulous.
Speaker 1: So did you did you ski there an Aspen?
Speaker 2: Because we didn't even ski, We just wore outfit we
Speaker 2: had the opportunity to and we were like, oh, we're tired,
Speaker 2: but yeah, so we were. We sold out the show
Speaker 2: and we got on stage and it was filled with
Speaker 2: middle aged women. We're like, how did I don't even
Speaker 2: think that these people live in Aspen? Like how did
Speaker 2: they find out about the show? And so that was
Speaker 2: like a moment where I was like, we're marketing this
Speaker 2: to the wrong audience. And then we kind of switched
Speaker 2: and then it really started to take off from then.
Speaker 1: Is it fun just sing to these women? No, it's
Speaker 1: the us.
Speaker 2: It's freaking amazing, you know. They they treat us like
Speaker 2: we are in sync. You know, we go in these
Speaker 2: cruise ships and they're like, for our autographs, we'll do.
Speaker 1: Any of this. Straight boys ever try to hit on
Speaker 1: their fans, And is that frowned upon?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Because I bet I bet they they think they're there
Speaker 1: in a safe zone. Next thing they know is like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: what's going on here?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a great idea, first rate guy. If
Speaker 2: they're really licking. I mean, I don't know. I've never
Speaker 2: clocked it, though.
Speaker 1: Have you ever tried to get a show in Vegas?
Speaker 2: In Vegas? No? Not yet?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's stop right now because I got
Speaker 1: connections and I want fifty percent, no five five percent,
Speaker 1: you got it of the profit? Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: seems insane. This seems like a no brainer.
Speaker 2: I mean, we just made it to La I know.
Speaker 1: But doing the I'm saying Vegas is like your your
Speaker 1: cruise ships. They've got all the money in the world
Speaker 1: be in Vegas. I know, but it's not. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: even if it's small stints, you know, maybe it's like
Speaker 1: you get a residency at a place where it's just
Speaker 1: I don't know, pick a cool day. Yeah, the first
Speaker 1: Thursday of every month, and you know, everybody different. Four
Speaker 1: fly in, nice hotel, nice food, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Okay, that'd be great. Let's make it happen.
Speaker 1: This is a no brainer. It's easy. I just don't
Speaker 1: know what casino is right for the boy band project.
Speaker 1: I have to think about that for a second.
Speaker 2: Planet Hollywood, what all right?
Speaker 1: You're no, you're fired. When you're singing to liquored up
Speaker 1: fifty year old women on stage, what are you thinking?
Speaker 2: I think, God, bless you, thank you for being here
Speaker 2: tonight and spreading your love with us and allowing us
Speaker 2: to sing to you. Now, they're the reason that we
Speaker 2: do it. You know I wouldn't We love them. They're great,
Speaker 2: and you know they love that. I mean, because we
Speaker 2: are mostly gay, like, it's very safe space for them.
Speaker 2: So it becomes a very like interactive show. Sometimes I
Speaker 2: mean you touch sometimes, yeah.
Speaker 1: They do, they touch. Do they get inappropriate? Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: They don't ever get called out for that.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, no, because you know, as long as they're
Speaker 2: tip tipping us, sometimes it ends up being like magic
Speaker 2: Mike meets in sinking backshit Boys.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there is grinding, half ening.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of grinding.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, you do you do?
Speaker 2: You do?
Speaker 1: You have a specific song where you bring someone on
Speaker 1: stage and do all this stuff to do you tie
Speaker 1: them into a chair?
Speaker 2: We don't tie them.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's tricky.
Speaker 1: One of the producers, Pete, his his wife. She got
Speaker 1: brought up on stage on magic mic and they just
Speaker 1: all of them just or on top of her, rub
Speaker 1: and her doing it. Then they brought her up into
Speaker 1: the air like crazy high. She was suspended, but they
Speaker 1: like the whole time they were like grinding and they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go up in the air, really are and
Speaker 1: you know if you have a do you have any
Speaker 1: heart conditions?
Speaker 2: Right then and there. She's signed to release.
Speaker 1: Some version of that. But he got jealous when they
Speaker 1: she got home. Didn't like it. I didn't like that
Speaker 1: she did it. I don't know why I got jealous,
Speaker 1: But that's just him. Are you married?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: How long have you been married?
Speaker 2: Married for three years but together for fifteen?
Speaker 1: How many of those years fifteen? Faithfully?
Speaker 2: In gay world?
Speaker 1: Is that different? Does that change when you get married?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, Well that is insane to me. Really, yes, why,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I just it's like, that's not marriage
Speaker 1: to me, like marriage, you have to have the part
Speaker 1: where you don't get to ever do that.
Speaker 2: It's a Mi Israel part. Yes, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1: Well, like I get mad at my friend who is bisexual.
Speaker 1: He always like, oh, if I'm in a relationship with
Speaker 1: a man, He's like, I can still occasionally be with
Speaker 1: a woman. I'm like, no, that's not. You don't get
Speaker 1: an out. That's fucking bullshit. You have to you have
Speaker 1: to The whole point is one if if I knew
Speaker 1: that was on the table, like.
Speaker 2: Oh emotionally one okay, Well why why put your relationship
Speaker 2: in a box?
Speaker 1: I mean you're preaching to the choir. I need you
Speaker 1: to talk to the other. Do you think that's very
Speaker 1: common when you said, like in the gay.
Speaker 2: World that that I know very little gay couples that
Speaker 2: are like one hundred percent monogamous in a long term relationship.
Speaker 2: And I can't even think of one David Sedaris no way. Really,
Speaker 2: that's just what I just wanted to.
Speaker 1: That I thought would probably be monogamous. He seems like
Speaker 1: reclusive sorts. Maybe, Well, here's what I've learned in my
Speaker 1: life is that there is every version of every type
Speaker 1: of relationship. So I'm sure there's tons and tons of
Speaker 1: monogamous gay Oh I'm are looking at you right now
Speaker 1: and going asshole, and you get to go have your
Speaker 1: cake and eat it too.
Speaker 2: Maybe they should try it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, because then you can't try it.
Speaker 1: It has to be something that has to.
Speaker 2: Be established in one I don't think so you.
Speaker 1: Can't be monogamous for fifteen years and then be like, hey, honey,
Speaker 1: I got an idea. How about I start fucking banging
Speaker 1: somebody else?
Speaker 2: If it's either out of the highway, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't marry somebody that wouldn't be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take the highway.
Speaker 2: True. True, But if you're going to be happier if
Speaker 2: you go down this road together, or you make a
Speaker 2: decision to be happy apart.
Speaker 1: Listen, I know it can't happen for me. But if
Speaker 1: you told me, hey, you're going to have the career
Speaker 1: that you want to have and blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to take care of your family
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff, but you have to be
Speaker 1: faithful to one person. Would you take the deal, and
Speaker 1: I say, yeah, take the deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: So that's the way I look at because I think
Speaker 1: if I'm out in the world right now, I'm going
Speaker 1: to put myself in a bad situation eventually totally.
Speaker 2: But I mean, in my experience, I found that because
Speaker 2: it's open.
Speaker 1: You don't put yourself in a bad situation.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't act on it. Oh, you know,
Speaker 2: because there's no real there's no barbed wire fence around
Speaker 2: my relationship. I just stay put.
Speaker 1: I don't like that you referred to my relationship as.
Speaker 2: A barbed wire fence, just a metaphor.
Speaker 1: You think your ex girlfriend out there cheats on her husband.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think she does.
Speaker 1: Everybody that comes on the show, I give them a gift,
Speaker 1: but I don't buy gifts. I just take stuff from
Speaker 1: my house that I'm like, why do I have this?
Speaker 1: And I get rid of it. Okay, okay, what's I sue?
Speaker 2: Are you nine and a half? Oh? I got the
Speaker 2: shut up?
Speaker 1: And they light up when the wheels roll. But they're
Speaker 1: too big?
Speaker 2: Oh no, what size are they?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You give me, but you can regift
Speaker 1: them to somebody and then you'll be fine. I think
Speaker 1: they say twelve.
Speaker 2: They're twelve. It's worth three pairs of socks.
Speaker 1: Listen, whatever. I just thought that you might like them
Speaker 1: because they're kind of cool and they light up. Thank you,
Speaker 1: you're welcome. This is very sweet. I actually wrote them
Speaker 1: one time and I fell very hard.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, that's really sad.
Speaker 1: Well, what are you gonna do, Lou Pearlman. You're doing
Speaker 1: a show about him? What's that about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're doing a musical. He's a piece of shit, right,
Speaker 2: piece of shit? Yeah? Yeah, okay, and the musical definitely
Speaker 2: makes that clear.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's about the creation of Otown, but it's
Speaker 2: also the parallels between Lou Pearlman and Colonel Parker, who
Speaker 2: was the manager for Elvis, and they both stole the money.
Speaker 2: And then there was one guy and the show is
Speaker 2: called the Manager, and so he was the associate manager
Speaker 2: of with Colonel Parker and Lou Pearlman who worked on Otown.
Speaker 2: And I got a call from a producer who wanted
Speaker 2: a boy band, and they wanted an actual boy band
Speaker 2: to come in and play O Town, And so we
Speaker 2: both brought the crew in this month to do it.
Speaker 2: We're shopping it right now.
Speaker 1: I have an idea for you if you want to.
Speaker 1: It's probably not a good idea, but get old people.
Speaker 1: They can sing like a choir, and I want them
Speaker 1: to look like they would be like, you know, traditional
Speaker 1: God believe in whatever, folks, but anyway, and I just
Speaker 1: want them to do cover songs of Two Live Cruise
Speaker 1: Songs Crew. They were a nasty, very a rap group
Speaker 1: from South Florida in the late eighties that they're the
Speaker 1: ones that created the parental advisory sticker for albums. I
Speaker 1: love it, but I just want to hear those songs
Speaker 1: that Couci. They had songs like that. Yeah, you would
Speaker 1: know some of their songs, the Cucci song. Well, well
Speaker 1: it's not you understand that. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: some other popular Two Live Cruise doesn't matter you watch.
Speaker 1: Somebody else is going to take this idea. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to exist. I don't want any credit. Fuck Mary
Speaker 1: kill you ready?
Speaker 2: Oh God?
Speaker 1: In Sync? Backstreet Boys ninety eight degrees.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck ninety degrees for sure? God, that is really hard.
Speaker 2: That's like Sophie's choice.
Speaker 1: Well, here we are.
Speaker 2: I'd marry in Sync because they have more money, Right's right?
Speaker 2: Kill the Backstreet Boys, But I would I would be devastated.
Speaker 1: About it, and I have now the Backstreet Boys is
Speaker 1: the right choice to kill. What's your favorite Backstreet Boy song?
Speaker 2: I want it that way?
Speaker 1: What was the music video to that?
Speaker 2: That's where they're on the plane, you know, they getting
Speaker 2: off the plane and they're all wearing all white and
Speaker 2: the fans are like, you know, going crazy.
Speaker 1: I remember that TRL.
Speaker 2: I love it?
Speaker 1: Did you love it?
Speaker 2: Loved it? Never missed an episode.
Speaker 1: As as an adult now and living in New York,
Speaker 1: when you go buy that old that window where it was,
Speaker 1: do you ever look up there and think about the
Speaker 1: days that people would just be all out in the street.
Speaker 2: I used to. I haven't in a while now that
Speaker 2: you mention it. It's been gone a very long time.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. It was such a such a
Speaker 1: part of culture back then. Carson Daily, did you like
Speaker 1: him or hate him?
Speaker 2: I thought he was annoying. He was really annoying, yeah
Speaker 2: you know, but I mean he was such an icon
Speaker 2: for the moment, right for music.
Speaker 1: I like that guy that they had when they had
Speaker 1: that contest to like become a VJ. And he talked
Speaker 1: with like a crazy voice, and he looked like like
Speaker 1: a homeless person, and he had hair that was all
Speaker 1: out here.
Speaker 2: I do not remember that, Jesse. I do not remember that.
Speaker 1: Yes you do.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I wore the contest, and then the reason he won
Speaker 1: is because American kids were fucking hysterical and they picked
Speaker 1: the guy that was clearly fucking methed out.
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, you remember Jesse Oh yeah, you guys remember
Speaker 2: him absolutely, Jesse Camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah, it comes to New York to hang
Speaker 1: with us, ma'am.
Speaker 2: I wonder what he's doing now.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's fucking dead podcast. It's is dead. There's
Speaker 1: one of the other You ever perform original songs for
Speaker 1: your group and do people get furious either love it?
Speaker 1: No they don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah they do because we'll like we do actually, but
Speaker 2: they're within the style of millennium boy band.
Speaker 1: You ever listen to do a cover of in Together?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: What was that? Map?
Speaker 2: Together Together? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have the calculus.
Speaker 2: I know my calculus. Yeah. Hardest part of breaking up
Speaker 2: is getting back your stuff.
Speaker 1: I just remember Chris Farley's brother in that and that
Speaker 1: always made me laugh.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, I forgot that was Chris Farley's brother.
Speaker 1: You recently launched the Girl Band Project. Who's harder to
Speaker 1: manage the boys or the girls?
Speaker 2: Girls? It's so much harder than I thought. Well, probably
Speaker 2: because I spent ten years working with boys and and
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'll just you know, dude, girls
Speaker 2: and I'll just jump in there and it'll be the same.
Speaker 2: And it was just so different, like I can't I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's because it was a guy like
Speaker 2: talking to women and telling them exactly what to do
Speaker 2: and where to be and what to wear and how
Speaker 2: to do it. Our first show almost had a mutiny
Speaker 2: and I thought they were going to show up and
Speaker 2: it ended up being fabulous, but I had to take
Speaker 2: them out to lunch and be like, what am I
Speaker 2: doing wrong?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 2: You guys are great? Like why is this working?
Speaker 1: Did you fix the problem?
Speaker 2: Not yet? Okay, well I've been a little scared to
Speaker 2: do it since then. Little PTSD, gotcha, where do you
Speaker 2: like to vacation? I just went to Marrakesh for my
Speaker 2: fortieth birthday.
Speaker 1: Really, I look at you.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm old. I told you I know, botas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you look good, You're you're just forty. I
Speaker 1: just turned forty. Yeah, good job. Thank you job son
Speaker 1: of them, bitch. I wanted you to be thirty four.
Speaker 2: I want to be thirty four.
Speaker 1: All right, Where else have you been?
Speaker 2: Buenos Aida?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 2: I went for my bachelor party?
Speaker 1: Did you cheat on your uh, your partner at your batch?
Speaker 2: I didn't do that. That's a little on the nose.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've got standards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it not called cheating?
Speaker 2: No, you haven't called cheating because there's no rules, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: so it's just who get it done?
Speaker 1: Who cheats more in your relationship?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 1: Is he older or younger?
Speaker 2: He's he's older, he's seven years older.
Speaker 1: My age, but still younger. I bet you had one
Speaker 1: hell of a reception at your wedding. Yeah. Did you
Speaker 1: sing at your wedding?
Speaker 2: No? Hell no?
Speaker 1: Oh? Why is that a hell no?
Speaker 2: Because it's work?
Speaker 1: I still.
Speaker 2: Did you do a podcast at your wedding?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, I did to shit. There you go,
Speaker 1: but I was occasionally funny. How many people were at
Speaker 1: your wedding?
Speaker 2: Well, we did destation, but I was one hundred.
Speaker 1: Fuck off? Yeah, you made a hundred people go someplace?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did a destination. I got sixteen.
Speaker 2: Where is your destination really? Oh see, we just did
Speaker 2: province down.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's different.
Speaker 2: You don't need a passport.
Speaker 1: I had to get a passport for my father in law.
Speaker 1: This guy found out he had never left the country.
Speaker 2: Oh, devastating vacations in America.
Speaker 1: That might be the funniest thing I've ever heard. How
Speaker 1: often are you performing with the group?
Speaker 2: You know? Sometimes I get so sick of it. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've been doing it for ten years now and so
Speaker 2: that's a lot of boy banding all the time. And
Speaker 2: I love boy bands, So every once in a while
Speaker 2: it's just time to step back and creative control it,
Speaker 2: you know, and make sure that everything is is great
Speaker 2: and make sure that the show is intact, and take
Speaker 2: a well needed break from it.
Speaker 1: I love it, though, Well what what about your age?
Speaker 1: Will you ever say? WHOA wait a second, I'm getting
Speaker 1: up there. It's not yeah, I have to pass the
Speaker 1: baton down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that will happen eventually. But I also think, like,
Speaker 2: because the nature of the show is is comedy, Like
Speaker 2: we're not really taking it serious. It's about being funny
Speaker 2: and fun and kind of like knocking fun at what
Speaker 2: the boy band genre is.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, it's what the boy bands should have
Speaker 1: been to begin.
Speaker 2: With, right, But I think as we get into the
Speaker 2: middle age, I think it gets funnier.
Speaker 1: You don't, No, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just what I'm telling myself so I can
Speaker 2: continue to have a performances.
Speaker 1: Lawyers, you can get out there and still do it
Speaker 1: that listen. I wish you all the success. I hope
Speaker 1: the boy band project makes you tons of money for
Speaker 1: fifty years and you can just sit back and enjoy
Speaker 1: the fruits of your labor. Thank you, Thank you for
Speaker 1: being on here.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you very much. This is fun.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Pasha. Well, Carl, that does it, Travis, thank
Speaker 1: you for being on the show. And be extra careful
Speaker 1: on those roles. Skates, Carl, you believe it. He's roller
Speaker 1: skating in his own house. It's dangerous. Boys wear, Pink.
Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for scamming the system and
Speaker 1: buying all the totes. We are now sold out of totes,
Speaker 1: so buy hoodies now, just buy hoodies please? All right,
Speaker 1: what else is going on? We got some tour dates
Speaker 1: coming up. Check us out as we travel around the country, right, Carl,
Speaker 1: Eddie'll be with us. Oh, it'd be good fun. And
Speaker 1: I got a big announcement. You ready for this? Should
Speaker 1: we get one of Eddie's drum rolls? Eddie want to
Speaker 1: do a drum roll? You know? No, you'll scratch that.
Speaker 1: Instead of a drum roll, why don't you give me
Speaker 1: some cool background music while I make this big announcement
Speaker 1: about the goat. It comes out May ninth. That's all
Speaker 1: I needed, Eddie. Thanks. May ninth, three episodes will be
Speaker 1: dropped on Amazon Prime. Yeah. Then after that Bezos will
Speaker 1: release them however he sees fit. Don't question the algorithm,
Speaker 1: all hailed Jeff. All right, Carl's asleep. Let's hear one
Speaker 1: more bedtime story from my son.
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