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Speaker 1: Welcome to a point game with John Wall and TJ

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Speaker 1: to the game. We all love. The crown is yours.

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Speaker 1: Just get some business out the way. Coming up on

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Speaker 1: today's episode, NBA Legend three times six Man of the

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Speaker 1: Year Jamal Crawford will be joining the show. But listen,

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Speaker 1: we got John Wall here, the man, the myth of

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Speaker 1: the Legend, and as usual, we're going to open up

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Speaker 1: on some Kentucky news because they have made their higher.

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Speaker 1: First of all, John, how you feeling, man?

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Speaker 2: I feel great, man.

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Speaker 3: I just came back from working out and feels good therapy,

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Speaker 3: So I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I'm just relaxing, chilling.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So the major development Kentucky has made the higher,

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Speaker 1: I think I feel like it was a little bit

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Speaker 1: of surprise and people are feeling good about it. So

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Speaker 1: let me hear how you feel about the hire of

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Speaker 1: Mark Pope as the new coach at Kentucky this past week.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a surprise. I mean I don't think

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Speaker 3: he was probably one of the top choices. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think I know they want that. Billy Donovan, Scott Drew,

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Speaker 3: and Dan and Hurley. I think those are the main ones,

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Speaker 3: and I think Bruce Pearl is one of the ones

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Speaker 3: on the radar. I don't know too much about him,

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Speaker 3: so I can't really speak on it, but from the

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Speaker 3: press conference, like everybody was super excited, and I know

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Speaker 3: he kind of probably got a lot of love because

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Speaker 3: he was on the championship team there in ninety six

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Speaker 3: I think ninety four ninety six here. I think he

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Speaker 3: Derek Anderson, those guys out with him, So I think

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Speaker 3: that was dope. And he came out with the trophy.

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Speaker 3: So I think him having like let history there playing

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Speaker 3: people having respect for him, I think that was dope.

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Speaker 3: But I really don't know too much about him, but

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Speaker 3: everybody seemed like they're excited, and uh, now it's about

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Speaker 3: building a team now, you know what I mean, Because

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Speaker 3: a lot of guys are decommitting a lot of guys

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Speaker 3: into the portal, so got to figure out how to

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Speaker 3: he wants I mean that's always the toughest part about.

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Speaker 2: A lot of coaches.

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Speaker 3: From what I've seen from playing college and just watching

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Speaker 3: you kind of like gott to finish that out at

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Speaker 3: out how to make things happen. So whenever you build

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Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about because on a previous episode, you're saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, you'll forever support coach cal change your life,

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Speaker 1: but you're also forever Big Blue Nation, So you know,

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Speaker 1: how do you stay involved with that program with a

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Speaker 1: but you're both you know, Kentucky Legends.

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Speaker 3: My thing is just talking to the guys around you know,

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Speaker 3: gonna be different for me, though, because you know me,

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Speaker 3: I talked to a lot of Coyle assistants, a lot

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Speaker 3: the same glove I've always got. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how that goes.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna do everything I can to try to

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Speaker 2: And at the same time, I'm gona support cal you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a guy that came to my house,

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Speaker 3: I just it was playing for the coach, but also

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I never would doubt

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Speaker 3: that of what changed, but Cale gave me the opportunity

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Speaker 3: and U I forever Cheersdad. So I'm always gonna support

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Speaker 3: him no matter what and where he goes, and about

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Speaker 1: You know, his squad that he captained, that championship Kentucky

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Speaker 1: So that was cool. Okay, John, I want to move

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Speaker 1: were yesterday and the playing is now set. Tell me,

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Speaker 1: play in You know, these teams they got to go

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Speaker 1: So what are your feelings for these next few days

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Speaker 3: For me, I never really liked it to play in,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, to be honest, I think the

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Speaker 3: best sixteen teams should get in. So if your top

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Speaker 3: that's how it was when I first came in.

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Speaker 2: It was playing. But I know the NBA is trying

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Speaker 3: So now you give those teams just between seventy and

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Speaker 3: and eight you get a chance lose twice, not nine ten.

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Speaker 3: You get to lose once. Yeah, so you kind of

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Speaker 3: set your stone, you know. I mean, if you win

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Speaker 3: ten to be the A seed. I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: You got some great matchups, you mean, basically the team

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Speaker 3: guy's come back from injury. Especially how good is Brandon

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Speaker 3: injury is He's probably, if not their best player, the

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Speaker 3: Trey Murphy's been playing well. We know how great Herb

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Speaker 3: got punched them out. But if you watched the last

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you look at it. Timy

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Speaker 3: What I mean, the Sons came out they wanted to

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Speaker 3: what I mean, if you get the seventh seed, you

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you get the ABC, you got Boston

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Speaker 3: And a lot of people are kind of doubt them

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Speaker 3: I think just the way those guys have been playing well,

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Speaker 3: That's tough for him to finish number one in the

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken and didn't expect them to even

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Speaker 1: I like what you said though about, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Like there's some real seeding strategy. Like so yesterday with

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Speaker 1: I feel like in the past, they'd be like, we're

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Speaker 3: Well, for me, I don't even think about it like that,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, like I look at it, I

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Speaker 3: don't respect a lot of if teams or players move

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Speaker 3: like that, I didn't respect you know. I mean because

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Speaker 3: any day you want to play the best of the best.

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Speaker 3: Any day you got to go through everybody to get

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Speaker 3: top of the food chain. I never got the opportunity

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Speaker 3: just want to play. You I mean, just happy to

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: What up y'all? I appreciate y'all having me for sure.

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Speaker 1: I know your schedules busy, uh so I did want

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Speaker 6: So let me go back. So on March twenty fifth,

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Speaker 6: The first time I thought I could have been All

435
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Speaker 6: Stars in New York and at the time I was

436
00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,880
Speaker 6: averaging almost twenty one and five assists, and for guys

437
00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,960
Speaker 6: who were averaging that, I was one of only three

438
00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,480
Speaker 6: who didn't make it. But they were like, you didn't

439
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,000
Speaker 6: have enough win. So I'm like, I get it, I

440
00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,800
Speaker 6: understand right. And then the second time I thought I

441
00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,399
Speaker 6: should have been an All Star was my first year

442
00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,800
Speaker 6: at the Hawks. Here here we are third in the division.

443
00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,720
Speaker 6: I'm the second league scorer. I want the top fourth

444
00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,840
Speaker 6: quarter scores in the league. I'm managed an eighteen at

445
00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,520
Speaker 6: the time, but they said, okay, well you come off

446
00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,119
Speaker 6: the bench. I'm like with them, if I was starting

447
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,320
Speaker 6: doing the exact same thing, you see, i'd be all started.

448
00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,080
Speaker 6: So you want me to sacrifice come off the bench,

449
00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,240
Speaker 6: But I'm doing these numbers and not making an exact

450
00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,439
Speaker 6: same thing happened with the Clippers, and my teammates were

451
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,520
Speaker 6: all advocating for me, said I should have been All Star.

452
00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,879
Speaker 6: I was top five and fourth quarter scored again, but

453
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,600
Speaker 6: at that time we were fighting when they make the

454
00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,800
Speaker 6: decision that we were fighting for first in the league.

455
00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,000
Speaker 6: And that was the first time I remember, like the

456
00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,280
Speaker 6: TNT guys, I think Charles and c Webb had me

457
00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,400
Speaker 6: on their All Star team, you know, they.

458
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Speaker 5: Do like the pre like who that was, will make it?

459
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,320
Speaker 5: They had me on there.

460
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Speaker 6: And so I'll tell you guys the story the time

461
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,320
Speaker 6: with the Clippers. I remember me and Steph Curry were

462
00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,399
Speaker 6: talking like a few days before they select him, like

463
00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,480
Speaker 6: who thinks gonna like, well, it's either you or me,

464
00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,920
Speaker 6: and we're both wrong if they really made it that year,

465
00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,960
Speaker 6: So it was just crazy out the D League.

466
00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:07,760
Speaker 5: It was crazy.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's interesting you say that because they said

468
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,119
Speaker 3: the same thing to me earlier. When I felt like

469
00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,520
Speaker 3: I should have made it my fourth field, there was

470
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,960
Speaker 3: like you got to be a winning team, And now

471
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,680
Speaker 3: you look at it, it's like, don't matter if you

472
00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,600
Speaker 3: winning or not. Like you could be last, you could

473
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,440
Speaker 3: be in the playing it doesn't matter. They just going

474
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,119
Speaker 3: by what the fans want to see now. So you

475
00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,760
Speaker 3: should have definitely been one of those. But it's just

476
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,679
Speaker 3: interesting how things change over the years, you know. I mean,

477
00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,320
Speaker 3: because you've been in the league for so many years,

478
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,440
Speaker 3: they'll tell you what, you're not winning enough or you're

479
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 3: not starting. Well, it doesn't matter. I'm doing what started

480
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 3: supposed to do. I'm taking the sacrifice for my team

481
00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,280
Speaker 3: to be great.

482
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,680
Speaker 6: And you guys, coaches, you gotta just still double team

483
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,960
Speaker 6: me every pick and roll the BF you treat me like.

484
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,760
Speaker 5: A start something.

485
00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't get it.

486
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Speaker 6: But it's just crazy because the thinking of that, and

487
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,199
Speaker 6: I had talked to I believe it was Sewer at

488
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,240
Speaker 6: that year with Stephan. I think I was gonna be

489
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,600
Speaker 6: one of the injury placements, just in case somebody got hurt.

490
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,399
Speaker 6: And you know how the HJ wall. There's one year

491
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,520
Speaker 6: in Dallas where they were pulling people. I think it

492
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 6: was torn eight or something. They're pulling people from Dallas,

493
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,200
Speaker 6: like y'all want to play. I think JK had played

494
00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 6: because it just happened to be in Dallas make the

495
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 6: All Star Game. So it's just saving money. Nobody got hurt.

496
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 2: Saving some money, saving some money. Ain't got no flights

497
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 2: to the.

498
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Speaker 6: Hotels exactly, saving some money and travel. So for me,

499
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 6: I just wanted to be at one time, and I

500
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,120
Speaker 6: didn't if I was All Star, just one time, bro,

501
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,160
Speaker 6: I promise you, I know, we'll go play a lot.

502
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 6: I was gonna plow to move a different move every

503
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 6: time down the sid. I was gonna make it. I

504
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 6: was gonna maximize it. Y'all was gonna know I was

505
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 6: out there.

506
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Speaker 3: But yeah, you was the perfect guy to put into

507
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,439
Speaker 3: an All Star game, you know what I'm saying, Like

508
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 3: you know how it is ruck and parking thing like that.

509
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 2: You are the All Star type of guy.

510
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 3: And to be me being young and see you do

511
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 3: the move that we see on the street ball, you

512
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,679
Speaker 3: don't think you're put in the NBA game. I mean

513
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 3: you only had a sub a couple of guys that

514
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 3: can do that and make it look like it's special

515
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 3: and have a heck, of a creative so you definitely

516
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 3: should have been one, So you definitely get your flowers

517
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 3: for sure.

518
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Speaker 6: I appreciate that. And then hearing it from you and

519
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 6: guys like that on your level, that means the most,

520
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 6: to be honest with you, because my peers because they

521
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 6: know that the All Stars, the Hall of Famers, those

522
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,679
Speaker 6: guys who did it at the highest level, well know

523
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 6: what it looks like and what it feels like. So

524
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 6: that means more than me than anything for sure.

525
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,959
Speaker 3: Well, morning, bro, like, I just want to thank you,

526
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 3: thank you for taking your time out today to really

527
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 3: appreciate you. And I want to jump right into it

528
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 3: because yesterday you made it plead to help your fellow

529
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 3: brother Nate Robinson out as he needed a kidney transplant.

530
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 3: I just want you to share with your without audience

531
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Speaker 3: what you think can help them and see what we

532
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 3: can do to make that push get out there.

533
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Speaker 6: Well, first off, I'm proud of Nate because he's been

534
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 6: going Diallasis three times a week from now for a

535
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 6: couple of years and he hasn't said anything anybody as

536
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 6: public and as loud. And I'm proud because we've been

537
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 6: trying to get him to say that because there's people

538
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 6: out there that will help, that could be a match,

539
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 6: but they didn't really know you know what I'm saying.

540
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 6: So you know, Nate has the heart of a lion.

541
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 6: So for him to finally not now break down, be

542
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 6: vulnerable and say something is gonna think I feel I

543
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 6: can help him. It can also help so many different people,

544
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 6: you know, just like with you in your situation, for

545
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 6: you to speak about what you spoke about, bro, that's

546
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 6: gonna help so many people because all it takes sometimes

547
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 6: that one moment to say I'm gonna do this, so

548
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna do that, and it can change your life.

549
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 5: It can change your life. They can change others lives

550
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 5: as well. And you guys are inspirations.

551
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 6: And for him to say that, I was so proud

552
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 6: of him, and now you know, we're gonna see you

553
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 6: know how the match process works.

554
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 5: Because Nate, we need him around. We got to have around.

555
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 5: He needs so much.

556
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 6: Like you should see how he pours into the youth

557
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 6: and Seattle. He treats every kid in the community like

558
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 6: it's their kid, yelling at him, caring about him, loving

559
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 6: on them, pouring into him. And so we need that.

560
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 6: That inspires inspiration, but aspires hope as well. So I'm

561
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 6: glad he said something. We're gonna work to see how

562
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 6: it works, the process and try to give them a kidney.

563
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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely hope we can help for sure, man, because Nate.

564
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 3: Nate's a great person, great character, great father, just like

565
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 3: you said, doing things in the community, just being around him,

566
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 3: knowing how he is is a person. He's always genuine,

567
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: always uplifting people last year, So anyway we can help

568
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 3: and hopefully we can get that for him, because like

569
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 3: you said, we need him on this earth for a

570
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 3: little bit longer.

571
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: We don't. It's not his time to go yet.

572
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 6: Even you guys bringing it up and talking about it

573
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 6: now is helping. So the more we talk about it,

574
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 6: the more it only takes one, you know what I mean,

575
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 6: It only takes one. So for us, hopefully we keep

576
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 6: pushing that message out, something happens.

577
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Speaker 1: I feel like people forget about Nate and even like

578
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: we talk about your highlights, Jamal too, Like Nate was

579
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: another guy I was living in Chicago when d Rose

580
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, was going through injuries and Nate right they

581
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: had signed Nate and he got us in the postseason.

582
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: Like guys, in the playoffs, beat the Nets that series.

583
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: Go back and watch that. That was incredible. That Like

584
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: mentally that saved me because I was so depressed about

585
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: watching this Bulls team come up short. But then Nate Man,

586
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: he stepped up.

587
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 6: Nate, I've never seen anything like Nate, especially from where

588
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 6: I'm from. So basketball, State player of the year, football

589
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 6: State Player of the Year the same year, recently own

590
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 6: the record in the hurdles like this, and he can

591
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 6: dance like he can play basketball like his son.

592
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: His son's playing at Colorado too for Dion, so like, yeah.

593
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 5: He is ex crazy.

594
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 6: Younger son and daughter are doing well right now playing

595
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 6: high school basketball where his daughters in eighth grade going

596
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 6: to high school next year. And his son, Nail is

597
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 6: really really good, one of the best point guards in

598
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 6: state and Washington players out our old high school up.

599
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: I want to go to the seat. I want to

600
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: talk about this Seattle brotherhood and just Seattle basketball. But

601
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: I do want to just to bring things back a

602
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: little bit because it's crazy to me as a basketball fan.

603
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: I get to sit with you and John right now.

604
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: You know, your guys, two of the most electric NBA players,

605
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: Your handles, the move packages, so I wanted to know

606
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: Jamal because John came on the scene or came in

607
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: the NBA. You know about I think like nine years later.

608
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: What was the first time you saw John When did

609
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: he get on your radar? And what was your reaction.

610
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell your story. I've never even told John.

611
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 6: So John goes to look at the smile. John goes

612
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 6: to Rebok, right, and everybody there has a team, but

613
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 6: we're not actually there.

614
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 5: The guys there were Rebock. I think AI had a team.

615
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 6: I think at the time maybe Darris Miles had a

616
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 6: team and I had a team, and from when I heard,

617
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Speaker 6: I don't know if it's true. John was like, I'm

618
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 6: on Jamal Crawford's team and like whatever, little you know,

619
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 6: a team that signed us to even even though you

620
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 6: weren't there.

621
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Speaker 5: And he was like, man, he likes your damn Like what.

622
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 6: So I first saw him in high school obviously, you

623
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 6: know my young guy a duel Gaddy was right right

624
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 6: behind him from the point guard. So I was hipped

625
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 6: to John a long time ago. And the thing about

626
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 6: John is there's players that are great, there's players that

627
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 6: are good, and there's players that are electric. He was

628
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 6: like everything rolling the one when he had the ball,

629
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 6: you had to watch them. When he had when he's

630
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 6: in the court, you had to watch them. You had

631
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 6: to smooth look as he still does. He was the

632
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 6: baby fac assassin, but he'd kill you and he had

633
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 6: so much heart and he would guard and he could

634
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 6: do everything on the court. And I remember playing against

635
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 6: him when he first came to the league and I

636
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 6: was with at the time. I believe I was with

637
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 6: the Hawks Hawks. Yeah, Like damn man, I'm like you said,

638
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 6: I'm nineteen years in the league and I'm still like,

639
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 6: that's Jay Wall right there. Like I knew he was

640
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 6: one of the next ones. And people got to really

641
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 6: look back and see like this dude was the way,

642
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 6: Like this is the dude. How we look at it, man,

643
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 6: how we look at John How we look at all

644
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 6: those young guards come in the game. That was Jay

645
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,239
Speaker 6: Wall and even the Veterels taking of It's like, oh,

646
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 6: this is the dude right here. Because he was so competitive,

647
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 6: but all the talent and all the skill, he was

648
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 6: a winner. Like he was a winner, dude, just will

649
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 6: you to win and to watch him and watch how

650
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 6: you progress, Like I just love his game. I love

651
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 6: who is the person even more. I'll tell you his story

652
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 6: about him well off the court, he was one of

653
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 6: the first stars we had coming pro am before we

654
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 6: moved and made it popular to come to both. This

655
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 6: dude came in the hood by himself on the drop

656
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 6: of a hat. He's always been there. So when he

657
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 6: told me, like I need you on the show, Like, bro,

658
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 6: you serious? All the stuff you've done for me in

659
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 6: the past that nobody knows about. And lastly, I think

660
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 6: he came to my house him in Isaiah Thomas and

661
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 6: they was on jet Ski's. I think that was one

662
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 6: of the first time too that were on jet Skis

663
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 6: to watch this whole progression, watch him go be this

664
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 6: world wide star and watch his love for the game

665
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 6: and watch his passion.

666
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 5: I still admire him even though he's younger.

667
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's dope, bro, cause I appreciate it

668
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: coming from you because, like I tell a lot of people,

669
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: Jamal is like my favorite player outside of ally everything

670
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 3: like handles do all that, Like that was exciting to

671
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: me because I was only like five eight and tenth grade,

672
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't tall. I grew in my tenth grade

673
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: year and I was gonna tell that same story because

674
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: it was the lockout here after my rookie y after

675
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: my rookie's lockout here, and Jamal like, yo, you want

676
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: to come down, Like hell, yeah, we just hooping.

677
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: I remember me and you.

678
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 3: It's Nate, it's Isaiah, it's Tony Rowing and that's like,

679
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: that's like one of the richest lakes you said. I

680
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: was happy as hell just to be out there. I

681
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: was at his crib playing video games and we just

682
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 3: jet skinned through the lake and I'm like, damn bro,

683
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 3: like I'm really at Jamal crffer house. I'm really hanging

684
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: with the NBA started time for me. I was just

685
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 3: trying to get my name known in this and to

686
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 3: get the respect for my peers. Was like you said,

687
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: that's the most umost respect out anything. Like a lot

688
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: of people look back and see what I did. But

689
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: to hear from gods that I looked up to, that's

690
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 3: all you can ever ask for.

691
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's the truth. Like you absolutely were the

692
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 6: way if you took it to a whole of the level.

693
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 6: Like the guards that came after you were looking to

694
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 6: you like you're the dude. You know what I'm saying,

695
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 6: And that's how supposed to go. Like you said, I

696
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 6: looked at the Irish so from ivers In to like

697
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 6: Baron Davis and Steve Francis to me to then you

698
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 6: got d Rolls. It's a lineage, you know what I'm

699
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 6: saying to you, And then it comes you know John,

700
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 6: all these guys like that's how it works and that's

701
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 6: how it goes. It's like I always looked at it

702
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 6: like you know what, like I got I heard from Denzil.

703
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 6: If we're on a relay team, I hand you the baton.

704
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 6: Now it's your turn. Now you run your race. Now

705
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 6: you ad to the next one. And that's how we

706
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 6: live forever. It's the legacy, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

707
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 6: So I sponsor.

708
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: I sponsored three AU teams, right, and I have to

709
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 3: agree with you on some of your commons issues that

710
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: make AU Circund difficult. I drop in on my team

711
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 3: as much as I can their teams where their parents

712
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: are ripping our coaches, and I'm like, this is not cool.

713
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: So didn't they tell you stir out? I think DFM

714
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 3: that wanted me to pay their son to play for

715
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: my team.

716
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 6: Wow, wow, See I ain't got that far in it.

717
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 6: Yet like that's my third year coaching. I'm coaching my son,

718
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 6: I'm coaching so many other dope kids in the city,

719
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 6: and I just want them to stand on principal, stand

720
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 6: on boroughs and stand on We can't coach them where

721
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 6: they are.

722
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 5: We're trying to coach them where they're trying to go.

723
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: And they have a cheat code.

724
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 6: Because even my coaching staff with coach Keith, Keith Smith

725
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 6: and Real Hennies both played D one. I think we're

726
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 6: on the only staffs where all three coaches played Division

727
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 6: one basketball, so we know how to help your kid

728
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 6: get there. And so that part of it where the

729
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 6: parents can getting away, bro, it's like if my mom.

730
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 6: The one thing I take pride in is my parents

731
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 6: never ever ever told a coach, oh, you should be

732
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 6: doing this or he should be doing that. And that

733
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 6: was just like local coaches, you know what I'm saying.

734
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 6: So I wore that with pride now looking back and

735
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 6: being in the space because it's like the parents can

736
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 6: getting away sometimes we all want the best for your kid,

737
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 6: Like we're stacked pricing time, money, energy, But if a

738
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 6: parent was like, yo, I need to pay him, Like

739
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 6: first off, y'all really ain't trying to chase this for

740
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 6: real because you have a cheeko with me being John

741
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 6: Wall and you are I'm good. I don't need the

742
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 6: wins and losses that way. My wiz is getting these

743
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 6: kids from point A to point C and hopefully they

744
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 6: can go further than that.

745
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: That's like, that's why I said.

746
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: I was like, I had to tell the parent, I'm like,

747
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: your kid out as good as I was at this age,

748
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: and I didn't get a dollar like I just played

749
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: because I love.

750
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: To play the game.

751
00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 5: I love to play.

752
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: And it's like, we don't get paid to coach these kids,

753
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: Like we don't get paid.

754
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 5: To have a program. It costs us the coach.

755
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what I was trying to

756
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: explain to people.

757
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 6: It's probably one hundred thousand a year, and not not

758
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 6: that it has to because it's out my own pocket

759
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 6: because I want them to have experiences. Get my wife

760
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 6: team bands everywhere we go around the country. We get

761
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 6: the same hotels everywhere we go around the country. We

762
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 6: fly people with the team, not like guest person. Nothing

763
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 6: where they need to go. Everywhere we go on the road,

764
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 6: we were in out at least one place. It could

765
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 6: be a David Bushes, bring your mom's sister, family whoever comes,

766
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 6: free for everybody. So we just all over the country

767
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 6: the whole time.

768
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

769
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 6: We're written out switees to the NBA games, you know

770
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 6: what I mean. Like, so I'm trying to get them

771
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 6: totally different. Bro, We're done FaceTime with Jay Cole Like

772
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 6: we're trying to get the totally different experiences. We watch field,

773
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 6: We're doing everything the college and pros do. We got

774
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 6: schedules on the road because we want them to get

775
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 6: that experience. We want them to see what it's really

776
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 6: like when you get beyond high school and you know

777
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 6: that's what you're really chasing. And I enjoy that you

778
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 6: say that because I was watching Ron doing all the

779
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 6: smoke and he broke down.

780
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Like they have a routine to have a schedule, watch

781
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: and film. We're taking phones. It's no going straight to

782
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: social media after the games, you know, because that's what

783
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: a lot of kids want to look to.

784
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

785
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: Now you do everything is what's my highlight? Like what

786
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: did I does? Like no, no, no, So I'm glad

787
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: to speak on that and see how it is because

788
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: like I was saying before, like it's just so different

789
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: with au now because it's all about what circuit you on.

790
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: Like when I played, it was no Nike, you were Nike,

791
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: you were Rebloka, you were Adidas. But we played in

792
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: every tournament everything. We didn't care, like you couldn't if

793
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: you was the best player at this position. I'm playing

794
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: this guy here, Like I remember my first time going

795
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: to cat this classic. I'm playing the dual Gotti and

796
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: Avery Bradley. This when I first realized who Avery was.

797
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: I knew a duel was, but I didn't know where

798
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: Avery was. But it's just so different that these kids

799
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: want money and who what shoe deal you with? If

800
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: you don't got to shoot deal, they don't want to

801
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: play for you.

802
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 6: It's crazy because I always look at it like, you

803
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 6: know what, I'm not saying we should all, you know,

804
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 6: not try to take advantage of certain situations or trying

805
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 6: not try to win a certain situations. But are we

806
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 6: playing a long game or we're playing for like a

807
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 6: dollar right now? Like if you can get this information,

808
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 6: because that's the most important thing, the information. If you

809
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 6: can get the information and then go apply it that's

810
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 6: life changing. That right there is gonna better chance to

811
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 6: make you more way more money in the long run

812
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 6: if you listen to it and go apply it. Then

813
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 6: chasing this quick dollar, Oh man, I got it. I

814
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 6: got a bag for five hundred. I got a bad

815
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 6: fifteen hundred right now. Like, if you do that, you're

816
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 6: gonna always tell yourself short, it's just what it is.

817
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 5: The fact of that versus let me keep doing. I'm doing.

818
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 6: Oh he gave me that. Doug Christie changed my life,

819
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 6: Gary Payton changed my life. Oh they did that. Okay,

820
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 6: So this is how pros work out. delG christ is

821
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 6: the person I've seen even using a handheld phone. Bro,

822
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, he's practical. Ankleweights on, okay, beat on.

823
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 6: Time you at the gym thirty minutes before. I'm like okay,

824
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 6: I'm looking at all these small nuggets. I didn't want

825
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 6: his phone number. So now fast forward, we got kids saying, nah,

826
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 6: forget your phone number. Yeah I know you, Jay Waller,

827
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 6: jamorro or whoever. I need a bag, bro, Like what

828
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 6: that's crazy, and the parents to allow that yaffling to me.

829
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: It's skip fuck, it's skipping as well. Following Instagram, I

830
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: need some money? Did Oh my goodness, crazy.

831
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: Bro, Jamal. You've talked about Doug Christy kind of helping

832
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: you out in your career. What's the backstory on that.

833
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 6: So when I came back to so I'm from Seattle.

834
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 6: I moved to LA from thirteen to sixteen. Instill my dad,

835
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 6: my grandmother, his mom, And when I came back to Seattle,

836
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 6: that was like my mixtape circuit. You know what I'm saying.

837
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 6: I'm looking for every gym like I'm back. I left

838
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 6: at five to nine, I come back in sixty four.

839
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm trying to because it's before social media.

840
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 6: Where's the best players at I'm trying to get my

841
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 6: name back that I'm back in town, right, and so

842
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 6: my name started getting so loud that I start going

843
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 6: to Uh, you know, I played this pro am and

844
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 6: I played this prom based on my high school coach.

845
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 6: He knew him, he coached his assistant coach at the time,

846
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 6: same high school. And I played this prom which is

847
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 6: now mine. In one of my first four games, I

848
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 6: think I had eight points combined. They pushing me is

849
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 6: the physical error of pro and Dude, I'm playing against

850
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 6: David Stida May Shane Kill. But Doug really took me

851
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 6: under his wing and he's like, yo, you can work

852
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 6: out with me.

853
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 5: I'm like cool.

854
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 6: So if we're supposed to be at the gym is seven,

855
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 6: I'm there six waiting for him. I didn't call it

856
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 6: a bus. He don't know all this. Whatever it took.

857
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 6: I didn't have his phone number. So how we made

858
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 6: the date or playing the next day was from the gym, right,

859
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 6: I'll be here Wednesday at seven o'clock. I'll be there

860
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 6: Wednesday at six waiting for him. He knew I was serious.

861
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 6: I never asked him for a dollar. I'm like, yo,

862
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: just show me how to be a pro. Okay, you

863
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 6: got to be in the best shape. Okay, you got

864
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 6: to take care of yourself. Oh, pros are doing this. Okay,

865
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 6: pros are doing that age they shot sup. So I'm

866
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 6: learning all this and I'm watching him and for me

867
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 6: him saying, yo, if you do these things, you can

868
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 6: make it.

869
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 5: Man.

870
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 6: That was all I needed. It changed my life, cause

871
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 6: I'm like, that's my goal. I never played to like

872
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to change my life. Like I wasn't

873
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 6: trying to be like, oh, I need to be rich.

874
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 6: I need to be famous. I wanted to play against

875
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 6: the best like I was the ky Like yo, I'll

876
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 6: play the NBA to play in the NBA. I ain't tripping.

877
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 6: I just want to be against the best. And so

878
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 6: for me, that's what I was always chasing. And so

879
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 6: with that, when I got that pro in my life, man,

880
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 6: that changed every thing from me. So I shout out

881
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 6: to him, He's always gonna be the big bro.

882
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dope, that's dope.

883
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: I want to go back because you grew up in Seattle,

884
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: and I think in the nineties, if I'm not mistaken,

885
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: you were actually working at the Sonics Arena and we

886
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: obviously know Sean Kemp, Gary Payton era. What do you

887
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: have any interesting stories of working in the arena? Did

888
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: you have any brushes with other NBA players during that time.

889
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 6: I remember at the time, one of the first days

890
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 6: I worked, they were about to either play Minnesota or

891
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 6: Minnesota have practice in the arena. So I remember Anthony

892
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 6: Peeter was one of the guys. I played against him

893
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 6: pro him maybe a year or two before. And so

894
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 6: you know, now I'm crazy now looking back because we've

895
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 6: been in arenas before. Shoot around and you can see

896
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 6: somebody working there. He may say your name, you're looking

897
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 6: a way up you like, I don't know, dude, you

898
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So he probably looked at me

899
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 6: as a kid. He knew I was the same kid

900
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 6: that played against the year before. But I'm working the

901
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 6: arena and I used to always bring up the food

902
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 6: from the basement. So I would bring up the popcorn,

903
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 6: the cotton, candy, the peanuts, whatever from the basement and

904
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 6: take them the concession stands during games. So that's supposed

905
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 6: to be like a five to ten minute trip. But

906
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 6: after I would, you know, make my trip. I would

907
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 6: go to one of myles, and they weren't gonna tell

908
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 6: me to move. I'm slipping on the court dreaming and

909
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 6: looking at Gary Payton and looking at you. I'm like, damn,

910
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 6: I'm so close to it. Like it inspired me to

911
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 6: keep working, And so that ten minute trip would turn

912
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 6: to a thirty minute trip because I would just stay

913
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 6: up there and just watch, like, man, they go gp

914
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 6: round the court right there. You know, he's playing against

915
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 6: stephan On Mallberry right there. He's playing against my move

916
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 6: right there. That's crazy. He's just like here playing against

917
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 6: Nick bann Axel. These are heroes from me, so I

918
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 6: was just so close to the action. It just made

919
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 6: me want And I'm watching the crowd react. I'm like, man,

920
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 6: they're gonna be reacting for me like that one day.

921
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 6: They don't even know who I am right now, but

922
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 6: one day I'm gonna be on that same court, you

923
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So it just inspired me to

924
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 6: dream and that was one of the best things. That's

925
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 6: the first job I ever had, and that was one

926
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 6: of the best things that happened to me because it

927
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 6: made me push even more. I'm like, damn, they leave it,

928
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 6: you know, John, they leaving the car, they leave in

929
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 6: the court for me. They're gonna get their fans like,

930
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 6: oh that's dope. That's like, it's just it's just inspired

931
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 6: even more. So that was the main thing for me.

932
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fire there, cause that's like Stackhouse at his program.

933
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: Back home, they used to play the Saint No so Ill.

934
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 3: I used to go out there and watch it. I'm like, damn,

935
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: they got nice cars, like I'm.

936
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: Not used to the other that.

937
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: So that's give you another motivation, not seeing that's what

938
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: we play it for, Like you could take all that away.

939
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: I still gonna play the game just how much I

940
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: love it, but just to see it and like get

941
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: to see stars. I never get to go Team Big games.

942
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: My time seeing Bay players was at the program, you

943
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, hopefully they come back and

944
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: play at the program, I get to see them.

945
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: So it was always dope. When would you.

946
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: Think Seattle get their NBA team back? Because I know

947
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: everybody itching for that. Everybody's itching for that, and like

948
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: I tell a lot of people, Seattle got a lot

949
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: of hoopers.

950
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 5: A lot of a lot.

951
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: Of people don't understand.

952
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: I mean hoopers really up from Seattle, Like if you

953
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: really go back into your search. I've been around to

954
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: Seat a couple of times. I love being there going there.

955
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 3: I've been to it weekend. Shout out to him also

956
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: signing for the rest of the year. I mean, that's

957
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: great for him. But y'all got a lot of hoopers.

958
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: So when y'all, I think I'll get your NBA team back.

959
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 6: Bro, you know when they left in two thousand and eight,

960
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 6: I think two thousands there last year, so they left

961
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 6: two thousand and nine, I was like, oh man, first off,

962
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 6: I was one of the ones that's naive, Like they

963
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 6: ain't going nowhere, Seattle. How are you gonna take the team?

964
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

965
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 5: Five years. I'm like, okay, think we'll be back in

966
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 5: five years. Nothing.

967
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 6: And so now I really think with expansion possibly happened

968
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 6: all that, I think we're right there. So I think

969
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 6: this is the time. I really believe it could be

970
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 6: really soon. But to your point, we have so many

971
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 6: Hoopers and I'm gonna tell you what's even crazy when

972
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 6: you really think about it. We have so many Hoopers

973
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 6: and most of the Hoopers came after the Sonics left. So

974
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 6: think about that. You know, in North Carolina you have Charlotte,

975
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 6: and you know in New Orleans you have the Pelicans.

976
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 6: You have all these people that you can kind of

977
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 6: pull from. All Zion's right there. I see him on

978
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 6: TV every day. It inspires me we didn't have that

979
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 6: for the last sixteen years. So that shows you the

980
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 6: importance of the pros we have in the community. It's

981
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 6: actually there you coming back to kick things off. Blake Griffin,

982
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 6: come in, here, comes Chris Paul, here, comes Kyrie, here

983
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 6: comes kd. All these guys coming in to the proram

984
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 6: and all these kids seeing it like now, it's believable.

985
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 6: We're not charging nobody. All your favorite players is right

986
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 6: there in front of you. That gives you a whole

987
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 6: different fuel. I remember maybe four years ago it was

988
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 6: Kyrie's last year in Boston, going to his last year

989
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 6: in Boston, and he hit me up, like, bro, I

990
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 6: need to get in the gym, I need to get

991
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 6: back right. So he came and stayed in Seattle for

992
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 6: a month and we worked out every day. I had

993
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 6: a young Pallo ben Carro in that run. Pollo was

994
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 6: fifteen by the end of it. Guy's like, Yo, what

995
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 6: college my man at. I'm like, nah, he's a high

996
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 6: school dollar. He's fifteen. So imagine for Polo right, who

997
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 6: I'm going to pick up every day? All this stuff.

998
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 6: He's playing with Kyrie, Irvan zach Lavine, de Jontey Murray.

999
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 6: He's in these pro runs that are secluded nobody knows about,

1000
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 6: and he's like, man, I ain't the best player out here,

1001
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 6: but I ain't that far away.

1002
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

1003
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 6: Like I'm fifteen, it's gonna go fast, and those pros

1004
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 6: taken interest in them. Same thing happened with John Say Murray.

1005
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 6: He come playing my proram the not I get me

1006
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 6: day before I get married, and he gets forty in

1007
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 6: the prom I'm playing, everybody's playing. That's like his introduction

1008
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 6: to everybody. Oh he's for real. That gets your whole

1009
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 6: different fuel. So to see these pros and those guys

1010
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 6: in zach Levine all he's got still come back. There's

1011
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 6: a ninth grader right now. I can text zach Levine

1012
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 6: like YO, can break down some film with me, and

1013
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 6: he's gonna respond. So that's what makes our community special.

1014
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 6: We don't have the crabs in the bucket mentality. We're

1015
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 6: all rooting for each other. If Nate has a Bowl event,

1016
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 6: ten of us are going. If I got a problem,

1017
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 6: everybody's coming. If I see's doing zeke and we all there.

1018
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 6: And that's what makes it special. And that's why we

1019
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 6: get so many pros. And we get the Sonics back.

1020
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 6: Whenever that happens, we're gonna get any more pros because

1021
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 6: we have that same fuel.

1022
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's dope, Jamo, What kind of involvement or role

1023
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,959
Speaker 1: would you want to play if the Sonics came back?

1024
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 2: Man?

1025
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 6: Whatever, To be honest with you, whatever, I like, I whatever,

1026
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 6: because I wear Seattle.

1027
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 5: So proudly like I've been.

1028
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 6: You know, no matter where I was, I've never left,

1029
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: and I think like I was, my feet were always

1030
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 6: firmly playing there. I'll playing in Chicago with the Bulls.

1031
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 6: I'm in Michigan, I'm with New York Knicks, where whatever

1032
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 6: it was, my feet were always in Seattle, and that

1033
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 6: gave kids a different feel too, like they could see

1034
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 6: me all summer long in the same community centers that

1035
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 6: they and you know, shooting around, working them out, whatever

1036
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 6: it is. So I'll wear that so proudly. Whatever role

1037
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 6: they wanted for me, I would absolutely you know, be interested.

1038
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: That's dope you were talking about. You were, You've been

1039
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: a coach for the last three years. I wanted to know.

1040
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: This is a two part question. Was as a kid,

1041
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: ever done a move and you're like, nah, like you can't,

1042
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: like done a crazy move? And then they're like, but

1043
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: you're Jamal Crawford. And then two the second part, has

1044
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: that ever happened to you when you're coming up where

1045
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: you did a move and a coach is like, no,

1046
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: you can't do that.

1047
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1048
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 6: So the first part, our team does moves all the

1049
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 6: time where it shocks me and I'm still a fan

1050
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 6: to be honest with you, So I'll be like I

1051
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 6: call time out, just call tell them I was dope.

1052
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 6: That was dope, you know what I'm saying. So I'm

1053
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 6: that coach. And then it happens when the team people

1054
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 6: are playing against us, well that was tough. Like you know,

1055
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 6: I'm still a fan in honestly, I'm still so connect

1056
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 6: to the kids. Yeah, I coach my team, and my

1057
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 6: team gets the best of everything. But these kids I

1058
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 6: play against, I follow them, dmm you shend me some

1059
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 6: dribbling drill ski all the time. Because bro, I want

1060
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 6: to see I want to see the sport get better.

1061
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 6: I want to see the sport continue to grow. But

1062
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 6: I want these kids to have a chance. And like

1063
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 6: we talked about earlier, information is the most important thing.

1064
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 6: It's not like you just don't you know my team,

1065
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 6: You the only ones get this information. Like no, I

1066
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 6: want to see everybody get the best chance to get

1067
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 6: do what they want to do and live out their

1068
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 6: dream because That's what I've done. And I feel like

1069
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 6: on this earth, honestly, I'm here. I finally figure out

1070
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 6: I'm here to be a service to people like I'm

1071
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 6: here to be an absolute service.

1072
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 5: I've been blessed. Man.

1073
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 6: I got to bless as many people as I can,

1074
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 6: whether they play for me, they don't, whether we never

1075
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 6: cross past, they may hear a message, they may see

1076
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 6: something online. And that's my job here while I'm on Earth.

1077
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 6: But the second part, like, what was the second part?

1078
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 6: Sorry you ask the second part?

1079
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: I went on.

1080
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: The second part was have you ever done a move

1081
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: in practice?

1082
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 6: And yeah, honestly, my first coach, coach bug shout out

1083
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 6: to him. We still see how to coach right now.

1084
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 6: And I just asked him this many a year ago

1085
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 6: because I remembered it partly, and I remember I was

1086
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 6: eight years old playing for him. Were doing coach two

1087
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 6: line labs and everybody kids are struggling to get up there.

1088
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 6: My first lap, I remember doing a jelly before y'all

1089
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 6: called it, we called it jelly. I was doing a

1090
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 6: backwards like left and I said, coach, I just asked

1091
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 6: me a year ago. I said, coach, you remember my

1092
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 6: first lap. It is like a backward like reverse labt

1093
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 6: He said yeah, but you're forgetting the party. And it

1094
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 6: came back to me, said you were behind the back

1095
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 6: and then you get the backwards lab. At eight years old,

1096
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 6: and I was like, dangn He was like, but I

1097
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 6: never wanted to take that from me. He's like, because

1098
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 6: you are the way you played, And my dad told

1099
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 6: me it's too. I wasn't playing to be a hot

1100
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 6: dogs what they used to call it. I just played

1101
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 6: like I just got a ball, and it felt like

1102
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 6: the ball just made me do these certain things and

1103
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to do it. But my dad was like,

1104
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 6: you're gonna play like that, you better own it. So

1105
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 6: I just mastered my flow. I just mastered it because

1106
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 6: I'm like, I want to play the same way with

1107
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 6: La Fitness as I do at the playground, as I

1108
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 6: do in front of twenty thousand, and I just mastered

1109
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 6: my flow. And I think the best can do that.

1110
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 6: I think the best players in the NBA can all

1111
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 6: make themselves play like they did in high school. I

1112
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 6: feel like high school is the most free. It was

1113
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 6: the most like dominant. It was the most everything when

1114
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 6: you were just won. Everything was the line. I feel

1115
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 6: like the best players in the NBA can do that,

1116
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 6: and they go through stretches of it before they may

1117
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 6: have to go to a role or whatever it might be,

1118
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 6: but they could do that at the highest level against

1119
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 6: the best players, and that's what makes it special.

1120
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just be a lot of that. Just be

1121
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 3: off instincts though you ain't predetermined. Like I always tell people,

1122
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: I just play off instincts. Like my behind the back move.

1123
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: I never practice it. I just tried it when they

1124
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 3: were like, oh shit, this is dope.

1125
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: It's dope. It's just all instincts, bro. You just play.

1126
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: It's free flowing, and like you said, you just find

1127
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 3: your realm, you find your dance move, you find your wave,

1128
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: and it's like if you stop, you stop it.

1129
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 5: I got account for it, I got a counter for it.

1130
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 6: But see, you're articulating and breaking down things that people

1131
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 6: feel as complex in the easiest form. But as to

1132
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 6: how you play, it's exactly how you play, Like we

1133
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 6: didn't know what you were gonna do, Like we really didn't,

1134
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 6: and that's what's crazy. And then when you get behind it,

1135
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 6: you'd almost speed up as you did it to make

1136
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 6: people really like, go for it, And it's just for you,

1137
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 6: it's just natural. And that's why you're one of those

1138
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 6: ones that have that gift. You have the quand right

1139
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 6: like you could do stuff that is extraordinary and make

1140
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 6: it look ordinary.

1141
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're gearing up for what we call the

1142
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: best basketball the season in the playoffs. So because we're

1143
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: gonna ask you, who are you excited to watch and

1144
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: who do you want to see in a game seven series?

1145
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 6: Man, I'm excited to watch Phoenix and because they've been

1146
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 6: struggling so much, I've been saying for the longest ending

1147
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 6: of the point guard, and not to take away from

1148
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 6: anybody else, but to add to what those guys do.

1149
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 6: And the thing about it is, you have Ktie, you

1150
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 6: got Book, you got Brad, and yeah, they can all

1151
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 6: hail the ball, but they all are.

1152
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 5: Sacrificing to some degree as well.

1153
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 6: If you had a point guard like no, now, y'all

1154
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 6: Brad and hit three in a row, we going right there,

1155
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 6: and then y'all play out for that, just to give organization,

1156
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 6: I feel like that's what they're kind of missing.

1157
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 5: So that's all.

1158
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 6: I was really happy to see them signs Isaiah because

1159
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 6: I know how he thinks the game. He decided to

1160
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 6: get the opportunity. But that's what they need to address.

1161
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 6: And it ain't got to be the guy who started.

1162
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 6: It could be the guy who comes off the bench

1163
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 6: and plays with those guys organizers and those fourth quarter leagues.

1164
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 6: They were giving up for a long time in the season,

1165
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 6: like Noah, y'all, we got to go right here and

1166
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 6: just give like be a conductor, you know what I'm saying,

1167
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 6: and put those guys a guy they respect that can

1168
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 6: kind of put them like, all right, you know John

1169
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 6: said this or Zeke said this, so let's roll with it.

1170
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 5: We respect him, so he's you know, it's about the team.

1171
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 6: So I look forward to those guys in the playoffs

1172
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 6: because I feel like they could be a tough out

1173
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 6: if they kind of get together.

1174
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 5: Denver's gonna be tough. You know. They're so connected and

1175
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 5: now they know their style works.

1176
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 6: Before they were, you know, they were doing it like damn, okay,

1177
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 6: we get playoff success, we would win it. Now they

1178
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 6: won it with that style, you know. So it's kind

1179
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 6: of tough and jokers working backwards. And he's one of

1180
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 6: the most dominant players who doesn't care about scoring. So

1181
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 6: that's the trick in itself, you know what I'm saying.

1182
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 6: Like Gary, it's scary because he's playing and I always

1183
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 6: say this, he's not just playing against the players, He's

1184
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 6: playing against the coach. You know what I'm saying, Like

1185
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 6: he's like, oh you do that, I'll counter with this.

1186
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 6: He's not even worried about the guy can't.

1187
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 2: It's just crazy how I think, like he would dominate

1188
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: a game to shoot the ball four times.

1189
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: Come on, bro, who does start too selfish? You know

1190
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

1191
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 6: I know, let me let me kee these ky as

1192
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 6: a boy, he's he's something totally different. So I'll look

1193
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 6: forward to them as well.

1194
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: I think I think, I think the seven game series

1195
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 3: is gonna be I think it's gonna go seven. I

1196
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: don't know, but now they got it locked in, the

1197
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: Clippers versus the MAVs gonna be exciting, das.

1198
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: I think they locked it in.

1199
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: So I want to get my popcorn ready to watch

1200
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: that because you know the history they have, Like you know,

1201
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: I mean, sure Clippers haven't been healthy most of the time,

1202
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: but then Lucer dominates them.

1203
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: Then they have their Big three, then you have Luke

1204
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: and Kyrie. That's figuring it out. Now.

1205
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 6: See they're playing now, they're not playing your turn, my turn.

1206
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 6: They're playing with flow and they care for each other.

1207
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 6: This is the one of the first times obviously, Jaylen

1208
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 6: Brussell was there as well, but I think even Luca

1209
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 6: has a different respect for Kai because he loves Jaylen

1210
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 6: Brust Jail. Brussell was nice, he loved him. But Kay's

1211
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 6: doing stuff for Lucas in the game, like, no, this

1212
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 6: is crazy, Like he's excused. They both are bro Yeah, exactly.

1213
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 6: This is the first time we've heard Lucas say, Shoot,

1214
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 6: he's the batman, I'm the rocket, you know what I'm saying.

1215
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 6: So that just shows you the respect that he has

1216
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 6: for them. So they're gonna be a tough enout and

1217
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 6: I think Kyrie will be even better in the playoffs

1218
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 6: because the game who's him and slows down and now

1219
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 6: all the things, all the things you think you think

1220
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 6: you know about somebody's mannerisment he doesn't have. He's like us,

1221
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 6: He don't have that pattern, you know what I'm saying.

1222
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 6: So there's no way to guard him like that. And

1223
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 6: he's that one miss match. So that's gonna be a fun, right.

1224
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 6: I don't getting popery may go seven, You're absolutely right now.

1225
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: That's what I think, Mike Go seven.

1226
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to sneak myself to one of the

1227
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: games because I definitely have to see that Anywerson.

1228
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta have to go see I

1229
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 5: want a person that'd be crazy.

1230
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be a good.

1231
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: One, Jamal, I know you got to get out of here.

1232
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. I wanted to ask one more question.

1233
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to ask this ever since I

1234
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: was like, we got this podcast because we talk about

1235
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: it a lot. King of the Court won on one tournament.

1236
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: If the NBA ever implements it now everyone talks about

1237
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: who would win it now, But I want to know

1238
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: if they had it back in your prime, do you

1239
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: think he could have took it all.

1240
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't think I

1241
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 6: could have took it all, but I think I would

1242
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 6: have shocked a lot of people, you know what I mean, Like,

1243
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 6: I don't think I.

1244
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 5: Would have wanted who would have stopped you? Man?

1245
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 6: You got Kobe, you got kd You know what I'm saying,

1246
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 6: Like you would almost have to do like weight classes

1247
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 6: like in boxing, this is a six heavyweight middleight exactly

1248
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 6: now now that that improves my chances like six or

1249
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 6: five and under that type stuff. But Kobe bro I

1250
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 6: just people forget and I'm glad some people are like,

1251
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 6: you know, speaking up for him, of people forget how

1252
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 6: to dominate. Kobe was like he was so dominant, and

1253
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 6: he was so prepared, and he was fearless. He didn't

1254
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 6: care about failing. That's the thing that really separated him.

1255
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 6: And so any challenge, we knew he was gonna take

1256
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 6: that challenge head on. It wasn't gonna be no run,

1257
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 6: it wasn't gonna be no high, it was't gonna be

1258
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 6: no excuses. It was gonna be because he did it

1259
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 6: or he didn't do it, and he's gonna figure out

1260
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 6: how to get it done. So I think Kobe and

1261
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 6: everybody in there pining Kobe would win a one on

1262
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 6: one contact.

1263
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you gotta think he's gonna guard. He

1264
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: don't care about guarden.

1265
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: He's gonna go guard like you see him in the Olympics,

1266
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 3: and then on guard like that. And then on top

1267
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 3: of that, you can't stop him off fence. He's making

1268
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: tough shots, so he's making that's the scave part. And

1269
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: then you're only playing three dribbles. A lot of guys

1270
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of ship rib.

1271
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 6: And he's mastered that in three dribbles. You know what

1272
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 6: I'm saying. But see, I ain't gonna gard like that.

1273
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna hold you. I'm not gonna guard like

1274
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 6: that like i'ma I'm gonna put my hand up if

1275
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 6: FA can test, I'm not gone like.

1276
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: Bro, hey more, I got one last question for you, Leeves.

1277
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: So I'll be watching on T T and I just

1278
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 3: got to ask, like, how is it working with Shaq

1279
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 3: Canni parking the crew?

1280
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 2: Like I see y'all be having fun, man.

1281
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 6: We'll be having so much fun. And left Coat is

1282
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 6: an ultimate point guard. Canvas is brilliant, like she's a

1283
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 6: brilliant basketball mind. And Shaq's a shock and Shaq, bro,

1284
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 6: there's nobody like Shock. You can't duplicate it. You don't

1285
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 6: know what he's gonna do. He may come out with

1286
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Speaker 6: a wig, he may come out with the steven a

1287
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 6: stiff drawn online in his mind.

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Speaker 5: He might he might do anything. Bro.

1289
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Speaker 6: He broke he break danced his intro the other day

1290
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 6: when he was on it like he Shack is a

1291
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Speaker 6: one of one and I love him.

1292
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Speaker 5: I'm I'm honored to work with him.

1293
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, because Canvas is the goat,

1294
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 6: Like basketball women's basketball players. Me like, seriously, there's only

1295
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Speaker 6: one go to me, and she is that in Shack

1296
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Speaker 6: and Shack and left Co is the rising star like

1297
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Speaker 6: in this business. So for me, Bro, it's dope. It's dope.

1298
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 6: It's a blessing, it really is. Because I didn't think

1299
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 6: i'd be doing this at all. I didn't know what

1300
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 6: I was gonna be doing after Hooper, you know what

1301
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 6: I'm saying. But to do this it's a blessing. So

1302
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 6: I'm honored every Tuesday night we all do.

1303
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: So you never thought about going to broadcasting after Hoopy?

1304
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 6: Bro, I took you know, in the summer, they take class.

1305
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 6: I never took a class like I honestly, I was

1306
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 6: gonna be a gym. I thought I was gonna be

1307
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 6: in the front office, and I actually got seven offers

1308
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 6: to be in the front office after I retired. But

1309
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 6: once I figured out I had to move, I'm like,

1310
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 6: now I'm locked in my family and my son.

1311
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 5: I'm coaching here. Now I'm cool.

1312
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 6: So TV is like, just come up, pop on and

1313
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 6: a few appearances led to getting that seat, Bro, And

1314
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 6: it's crazy how it works. And now I'm calling game

1315
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 6: and that's dope. Dot Com, sighline reporting, like hosting Crawford's Council.

1316
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 6: Now it's just now, I want to be as good

1317
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 6: in this space as I was in basketball. That's dope

1318
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 6: as hell because I thought I would have thought you

1319
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 6: took the classes and all that, because like the same

1320
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 6: mindset you had is like I want to be like

1321
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 6: a GM and ship because I like I just saying,

1322
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 6: like some people like just because you nice and I'm nice,

1323
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 6: don't mean to mesh together, you know what I mean,

1324
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 6: Like you got to know the background of it.

1325
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't. But like you said, you

1326
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: got to do all the moving. I don't think I'm

1327
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: with all that, especially what you're coaching your son and

1328
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: you got your family, you and your base where you

1329
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 3: comfortable with.

1330
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: Like, that's a lot to deal with.

1331
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 5: That's a lot.

1332
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 6: And I think I got the perfect balance of being

1333
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 6: home and still being on TV, you know what I'm saying,

1334
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 6: and not where I have to give up my home

1335
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 6: base because nothing's more important than that. So that's first

1336
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 6: and foremost. But now it goes to a Seattle team

1337
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 6: down here, you know what I'm saying, So it all depends.

1338
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: Then you get in front off a job. There were cool,

1339
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: we cool straight exactly.

1340
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: Sure, Jamal, appreciate you for coming on man, keep killing

1341
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: and everything you're doing. We'll be watching. This's been point

1342
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: game and we're back after the break.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, thank y'all.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Point Game with John Wall and CJ Toldonnald.

1345
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,839
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Speaker 1: The crown is yours as usual. I'm gonna make a

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Speaker 1: statement here in Bucketer Brick. And if you say Bucket, John,

1352
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: that means you agree. And if you say Brick, that

1353
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: means you disagree, and then you explain why. So you

1354
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: ready for this?

1355
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep?

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00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 5: All right?

1357
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: So this is playoff theme mostly so the first one

1358
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with here. One of the most interesting

1359
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: playoff matchups coming up, and you mentioned it at the

1360
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: top of the show, MAVs versus the Clippers. So the

1361
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: current odds to win the series are even, so if

1362
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: you bet one hundred and ten dollars, you can win

1363
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: one hundred if you pick the winner. So John Bucketer

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00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Brick the Clippers are gonna win the series versus the MAVs.

1365
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: For me, I say Brick just because I don't know

1366
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: the status of what Kawhi Leonard is, right you know

1367
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, I just don't notice status if

1368
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: how well he's feeling and how many games he can

1369
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 3: play or how many games he might miss. So that's

1370
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 3: the biggest thing up in air for me, because if

1371
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: he's healthy, y'all would take the Clippers for sure, you know,

1372
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 3: I mean, you know how specially is. But also it's

1373
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: tough to say because the way Luke and Kyrie has

1374
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 3: figured how to play with each other and the pieces

1375
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: they added have ben spectaculars. So in that series, I

1376
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 3: take the MAVs just because I don't know the status

1377
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: of what Kawhi Leonard is right now?

1378
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: What do the Clippers look like in terms in your

1379
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: mind on going on a run. If Kawhi ends up

1380
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: getting the full strength and that that Clippers team stays healthy.

1381
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: I think they can do something.

1382
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: Specially, they have all the pieces, you know, I mean

1383
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 3: they have a great floor general and James and getting

1384
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: them orchestrated and run their team on the hell of

1385
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: a coach in TLU that makes the right changes and

1386
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 3: adjustments throughout the game. But you know, the biggest thing

1387
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 3: that everybody always going to say, and it's been the

1388
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: Clippers say so or down for the last couple of years,

1389
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: is healthy. I mean, like, can PG stay healthy, Can

1390
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: Kawhi stay healthy? King James stay healthy. If they can

1391
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 3: do that, I feel like they can match up with anybody.

1392
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 3: They got the firepower to score, they have the ability

1393
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 3: of one of the best coach in the league to me,

1394
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: and also they have the defense, are tangibles and control

1395
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: they need to control. So you know what I mean,

1396
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: we say the same things every year about them. I mean,

1397
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 3: I just hopefully they can all stay healthy. That's what

1398
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 3: you want for everybody. I want no injuries throughout the

1399
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: whole playoffs and hopefully you can just get the great

1400
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 3: matchups that everybody want to see and get great basketball.

1401
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: I mean, injuries are the part of the game that

1402
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: we don't like to see, and it can change a

1403
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: team going to the finals, a team winning championship. I mean,

1404
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: it's all about luck, and it's all about health, and

1405
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: hopefully we can have a good playoff series throughout the

1406
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 3: whole playoffs of nobody having injuries and see these great

1407
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 3: teams battle it out, and I think you might see

1408
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 3: a lot of series go six or seven. To me,

1409
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 3: that's how I look at it from the standpoint of

1410
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 3: what the matches we have right now?

1411
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Okay, moving on, And we were talking

1412
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: about earlier in the show too, and why was so

1413
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 1: important like sort of the seeding race at the end here.

1414
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: So the Warriors are the ten seed, but they've been

1415
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: hot end of the season, but Bucket or Brick, the

1416
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: Warriors will make the playoffs. So they gotta win two,

1417
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: I gotta win. Yeah.

1418
00:54:51,920 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, it's a good one.

1419
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: I say, Bucket, I say Bucker that I know we

1420
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: know what Steph Curry can get into when it's lock

1421
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 3: in mode, you know what I mean. So I feel

1422
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: like he would get there IFL Klay Thompson found this

1423
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: rhythm back since he's been back in the starting lineup

1424
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: and Wiggins hasn't been playing great for them later, I

1425
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: think that's the key for them. If we can play

1426
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 3: well for them, I get them going into the playoffs

1427
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 3: for sure.

1428
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about it, like all these guys

1429
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: are sort of like a ligning right now getting their

1430
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: games back. They not only could make the playoffs, but

1431
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: they could make a run. Like they're they're close to

1432
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: full strength.

1433
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kamika's coming back.

1434
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: Like they started a guy tray Jackson Davis and put

1435
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: him at the center position and give him some high

1436
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: Draymond at the four ageating certain matchups. So I mean

1437
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 3: any day, like you never could count them out, like

1438
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 3: the year they won a championship against Hisselfchiaus.

1439
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: Nobody thought they would make it that far, you know

1440
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1441
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: But when you got a guy like Steph Curry, you

1442
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: have a pression like Draymond that fits into their team.

1443
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: Is basically they they leader, their toughness, their energy guy

1444
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 3: they iq that he brings for their team. And then

1445
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: Clay flying his rhythm. They're scary team, you know what

1446
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: I mean, because you know Stephan Clay can get hot

1447
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: at any moment, and they attract so much attention offensively

1448
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: that the other guys can get going and they making shots.

1449
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 3: They're a tough team to deal with.

1450
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: How do you think they match up against the Thunder

1451
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: who you have like an incredibly you know, Vetfield Star

1452
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: team versus the Oks Thunders.

1453
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 3: They match up well, you know what I mean, Like,

1454
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: no matter who you match up with, Shaye, SHA's being

1455
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 3: Shaye all year, no matter He's been spectacled all year.

1456
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 3: So no matter who matches though with him, He's gonna

1457
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 3: do his thing. It's just about stopping other guys, I mean,

1458
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 3: not letting the other guys get going. But they coach

1459
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: then they all of a job. Shae makes the right plays.

1460
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: Guys are making shots. I think they're one of the

1461
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: best three point shooting teams in the league. They're great defensively.

1462
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 3: Check Hogrim has had a hell of a rookie season,

1463
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But I feel like the

1464
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: year that he didn't play, he got opportunity to be

1465
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: around the game, understand the game a lot more, watch

1466
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: a lot of film, be around the guys. So he

1467
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 3: really came into it as he's been in his second year,

1468
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 3: not his first year, you know what I mean. So

1469
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 3: he has let experience blocking shots, being able to pick

1470
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 3: him pop. So he brings something to the team that

1471
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: a lot of teams don't have. But we have to

1472
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: wait and see.

1473
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, next one here, it might be

1474
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: a pack first team All NBA UH list this year.

1475
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: So bucker to Brick. Jalen Brunson should be first team

1476
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: All NBA this season. Yeah, Brick, I gotta go break

1477
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: who's making it over him?

1478
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: I gotta go Brick. He's had a hell of a year.

1479
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson's special, She's crafty, he's gifted.

1480
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: Uh, But you gotta.

1481
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: Go Shay and Luca, Like, yeah, come on, bro, Luca

1482
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 3: leading the league and scoring, he's being spectacled like he

1483
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: was on a stretcher with thirty point trim of doubles,

1484
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: like the most thirty point triper doas. I guess like

1485
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: this year in a row, could have kept it going.

1486
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: And then Shane's just been Shay. He has with fifty

1487
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: fifty thirty point games this year, So he didn't score

1488
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 3: fifty so many thirty every so many times. So I

1489
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: just Jaylen Brunt the second team. I mean, it's always

1490
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: hard because you have so many great guys and so

1491
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 3: many gifted guards in this league. But it's like, you know,

1492
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: I mean, he put his team second in the East,

1493
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 3: for sure, But Shay's been doing all ye day and

1494
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: then one in the West, and then Luca has his

1495
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Speaker 3: team there, so I put Jalen second team for sure.

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Speaker 1: Though, Okay, interesting, all right, last one. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you saw this last night in the Rockets game,

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Speaker 1: but Bobon was taking free throw shots, and they have

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Speaker 1: like a promo where if a team on the posing

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Speaker 1: team missed two free throws, they get free chickens. So

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Speaker 1: it looked like Bobon he was kind of, you know,

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00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: signaling to the crowd that watched this, I'm gonna miss

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00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: the second one, and he missed it and won the

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00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: free chickens. So I guess put yourself in that position

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00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: if you could give the opposing team a free prize

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00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 1: or whatever, would you miss that, you know, second shot

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00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: if it didn't matter last game of the season.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh no.

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00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 3: I want my points for sure, and then I want

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00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: my free throw percentage to be good.

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Speaker 2: But I also seen him do a jump.

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: Ball with his Avier Moon, and his Avier Moon won

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00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 3: a jump ball, so that was pretty interesting too.

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Speaker 1: Have you do you have any interesting stories with Bobon

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00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: or you know, come across him in the league. He's

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00:58:59,160 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: a he's a really.

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00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 3: Really I've seen him I've watched him play, I've been

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00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: around him, but I haven't been on a team with

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00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 3: him or nothing like that. But everybody I know say

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00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: he's a great guy.

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Speaker 2: It's cool.

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00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 3: I know he's Inny, one of the John Wick movies,

1523
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 3: so when I've seen that, I was surprised to see that, say,

1524
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 3: what the hell big bobo out here doing fighting John Wick.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm not missing it.

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00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 3: I need my free thumpercentage to be good and I

1527
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: ain't trying to need my points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Boban was a perfect guy to do that.

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00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: He's a man of the people, but like.

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00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he doesn't play as much, so he's probably like,

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: you know what, it's cool, I ain't tripping.

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00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: Is it important to have a guy like that on

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00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: the squad? Who?

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00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everybody has a guy like that on

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00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 3: their team. I mean like a great locker room guy,

1536
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 3: just a great guy to be around, supports the team.

1537
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: Really don't care if you play or not, just happy

1538
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 3: to be in the league, Just happy to be around

1539
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 3: the guys and bring that type of energy. I think

1540
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: every team has it. And you could just tell.

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00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: All right, John, As always, I appreciate you dropping your

1542
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: knowledge on the podcast. Any any last notes to give

1543
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: our fans and listeners as we had in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Here, I'm locked in. I mean we're some great some

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Speaker 3: great podcast shows coming up. Man, we can't I can't

1546
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 3: wait to talk about playout basketball. Like I say, this

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Speaker 3: is like NCAA tournament. Jes you gotta win four games

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Speaker 3: instead of one, you know, I mean one game elimination.

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Speaker 2: But it's exciting.

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Speaker 3: You get to see guys lock in, compete against a

1551
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Speaker 3: team where everybody knows your plays, knows what you want

1552
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: to do. Which players can make the adjustment to help

1553
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Speaker 3: their team win, Which coaches can make the adjustments they

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Speaker 3: have their team win. And it's like war, Man, you

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Speaker 3: going to war. You gotta go battle it, go get it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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