1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, how you doing everyone, and a very 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: very We want to wish everybody out there a very 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: happy and healthy Thanksgiving to you and your families. Welcome 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: once again to Big Blue Kickoff live right here for 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: you on Giants dot Com. The number, as always is 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: two oh one nine four five one three. I am 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Ra Salzburg, joined by my colleague today and buddy and 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: two time former Super Bowl champion with the Giants, David Deal. 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Got Brandon wrought across the way at the controls and 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: uh again it's our Thanksgiving show if you will, because 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: the boys everybody has a day off tomorrow, then we'll 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: be back on Friday. I won't put somebody will and 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: uh you know what, David, Yeah, we're laughing today. I 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: was with here with Paul Detino yesterday. And you know, 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: as you always say, vitamin W does wonders to your system. 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Team has two two wins in a row, You've got 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: the Eagles coming up, You're going into the holiday schedule, 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: and it just make it just the cloud over the 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: your organization. Especially it's also holiday time, so that makes 20 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: it for the nicest situation. It's just, um, you know what, 21 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this Eagles game is not just 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: another game. It's not, as people want to say, meaningless. No, No, 23 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of meaning to this game. There really is. 24 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: And that's not just about the history and tradition behind 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: the game. But this is an opportunity for the Giants 26 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: to number one, continue with leading the series between the 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: Eagles and the Giants, because right now it's eight three, 28 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: eight two and one. So this is an opportunity for 29 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: this Giants football team to keep that, but also just 30 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: to keep building on momentum one game at a time. 31 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Him and with the way that the division is going 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: with the injury to Alex Smith, you really don't know 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: what can happen as long as you continue to take 34 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: it one game at a time and see how it 35 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: plays out in the long room. Amen to that, you know, 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: And I'll say to you, screw the eighty two and 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: eighty one as you say, it's in particular. And you 38 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: know what, we remember our buddy Dylan from from uh 39 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: wherewith from Canton, New York, and I think he was 40 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: talking with maybe it was you and me that time. 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: He was talking about the schedule, you know, for us, 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: I was looking over the schedule going into the second 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: half of the season, and he was figuring out what 44 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: could happen if I played out Giants schedule and now 45 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: but but no, no, but but now all of a sudden, 46 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: now there's two wins in a row, and Alex Smith 47 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: goes down. And if Dallas wins tomorrow and beats the 48 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Redskins and the Giants go ahead and beat it, which 49 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: is all ifs, And if some butts were candies and 50 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: nutstairs ever going to be Christmas. But if that happened, 51 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: then the Giants are a grand total of two games 52 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: behind first place with what it would be with five games, 53 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: and yet you're playing the Cowboys again, You're playing the 54 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: reds again. Cucku. Things that happened, I know. And that's 55 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: the thing that you continue to preaching that they continue 56 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: to talk about that you really don't know how things 57 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: were going to play out. And we said, we know 58 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: that the wild card team is not coming from the 59 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: NFC East, but with this division continuing weekend and week 60 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: out up for grabs and nobody taking a clear reins 61 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: of it, you know, it really just continues to vote 62 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: in that you truly, number one, don't know what can happen. 63 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: Number two we've seen it happen. We're a team that 64 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: was under five hundred won the division to go on 65 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: the road and beat a playoff team. Think about the 66 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: seven and nine New Orleans Saints that went to Seattle. 67 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: That was a big momentum game. That they didn't give 68 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: New Orleans an opportunity in that game, but sure enough 69 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: they squeaked in. They got in at the seven and 70 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: nine and they made a quick run for it. And 71 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: that's something that you think about, and that's all you 72 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: ask for, is just the opportunity because from that point on, 73 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter about the regular season as just what 74 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: takes place in that game. You know, somebody said to me, uh, 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the other day, you know who, would it suck though, 76 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: if the Giants went out they go nine and seven 77 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: and don't get into the playass And I went like this, 78 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: let me tell you something, and I meant it seriously. 79 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 1: I said, if they go nine and seven, nothing sucks. 80 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't care if they get in or not. If 81 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: they go nine and seven. Quite frankly, if they ended 82 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: up eight and eight after a one and seven start, 83 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: you'd be talking about, you know what, this was positively 84 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: a big positive season. You took major steps forward. You 85 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: want x amount of games more than you did last season, 86 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: which you only won three. And not only that, the 87 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: team showed courage and gallant effort in the and fight 88 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: in the face of severe adversity, not just from opponents 89 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: but from media and fans and everything else, and rebound 90 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: that and and that certainly has been a learning process. 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: So to me, it's like Michael Thomas said after the game, 92 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, everybody was talking about you know, and they 93 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: keep asking O'Dell the same question about you know, well, 94 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: it's now what you want to and and you know 95 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: O'Dell did not say we're winning all a O'Dell said 96 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: an answer to the question was what's your goal? What 97 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: do you hope look to accomplish the second half? And 98 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: his answer was, we'll hope to win all eight games. Yeah, 99 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: why why can't we? You line up and you play, 100 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: and three weeks ago people were laughing, and now two 101 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: are rattled off. They're like, oh, well maybe there was 102 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: something you yeah, and that's something as a competitor, as 103 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: an athlete, as a football team, you always are competitive, 104 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: if you always have the eye on the prize of 105 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: what's the whole point of going out there and playing 106 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: on Sundays to win football games. So for this football 107 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: team to stick together through the tough times to where 108 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: all the talk was about everything taking place off of 109 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: the field and then on the field, and now for 110 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: them to just come off of this by stick together 111 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: as a group, build together, and continue to make progress 112 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: week in a week out. That's all you can ask 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: for from a football team. And look what happened. Now 114 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're starting to slowly dig themselves 115 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: out of it, and they're still the opportunity sitting in 116 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: front of them, as long as they go one game 117 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: at a time and make the corrections necessary from first 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: game to the next to the next in order to 119 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: get what they want. This particular game coming up, though, 120 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you could say that, you say, I'm glad 121 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: you said that. You can say that about all the games. 122 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: And like I said yesterday, I think I said yesterday 123 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: before you win four in a row, you have to 124 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: win three in a row. Okay, you can't be looking ahead. 125 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: And Michael Thomas at his locker said after the game, 126 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I got sidetrack for a second. Michael Thomas said, every 127 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: game is a one game season. That's how you have 128 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: to take it. But this particular game, if you do 129 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: this like I did the mathematics before. But more important 130 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: than that, it allows the Giants to continue to roll 131 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: with some momentum. And it also allows you to continue 132 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: to look at the schedule and to look at the standings, 133 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: because then it keeps improving. If they take a step back, 134 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: then they didn't gain any ground. That will have lost 135 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: ground to the uh Listen. If they win Sunday, then 136 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: they're tied with the Eagles. So you know, it makes 137 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: for a very interesting situation. And and the atmosphere is 138 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: certainly very good in the locker room, no question. Obviously. 139 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: You see the energy, you see the excitement, You see 140 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: the camaraderie of the football team sticking together. And the 141 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: one thing I would say is if I was in 142 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: that locker room and I was one of the veterans 143 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: going down to Philadelphia, right now, you have a chance 144 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: to get revenge from that Thursday night game that was 145 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: completely one sided, to where they came in and they 146 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: punched you in the mouth and took over from the 147 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: first play till the last. This is an opportunity for 148 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: you to strike back at a team that's going in 149 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: the opposite direction that you are that are looking for 150 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: answers that if you do that and start fast and 151 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: start putting some doubt in their mind, that's what's gonna 152 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: build the momentum and confidence in your football team that 153 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: you need to win in a place like Philadelphia. And 154 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about this last week, and I'll 155 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: bring it up again in regards to where the fellow 156 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles are currently this team. When you're watching film 157 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: on him and when you go back to this Saints game, 158 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: it reminds me a lot of the second half of 159 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz his rookie season. He started to get things 160 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: on film, he started to struggle, and with the injuries 161 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: on the offensive line and a lack of a running game, 162 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: it forced more things into his hand that he was 163 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: incapable of trying to do it all by himself. The 164 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: following year, they come back, they make sure that they 165 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: have depth on the offensive line, They go get mcgarrett Blunt, 166 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: they go trade for j. Jihy, and so they don't 167 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: have that type of ending that they had the year before. Now, 168 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: with the injuries not only on the offensive side of 169 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: the ball, but on the defensive side of the ball, 170 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: especially at the corner position. This is a time that 171 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: you can get after this football team right from the 172 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: get go and put doubt in their mind based upon 173 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: the way that you're playing in the confidence that you 174 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: can build. You mentioned depth at the offensive line position 175 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: and and at you know, different positions. Before I opened 176 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: up the phone lines, I haven't had the chance to 177 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: speak to this former not only a former two time 178 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champ, but a former offensive lineman. I shouldn't 179 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: say former, because once you're an old lineman, you're always 180 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: an old lineman. But you and I haven't had a 181 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: chance to chat about JB. Number seventy COmON Brown. From 182 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: what I've gathered, you know, to see, this guy is 183 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: a major, major improvement. He's helped immensely on that offensive line. 184 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you look at you say, wow, they 185 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: got this guy on waivers. If he's so good, why 186 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: was he on waivers. He was in a situation where, uh, 187 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: he was suspended for two games, he wasn't playing in 188 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, wasn't playing, and the kid who was put 189 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: in was doing well and he's still he's playing well. Cheaper, 190 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: so he became expendable and there were a lot of 191 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: other teams that there was not just the Giants. No, 192 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams claims. But to me, he 193 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: looks like he's I don't want to say completely solidified it, 194 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: but you know what stabilized that. If if anything else, 195 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: your judgment on what you've seen in a couple of games, 196 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: he's definitely brought a change to the offensive line, and 197 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: you can see that there is now through two games 198 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: there's a clear mesh and communication where him and Pulley 199 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: are working on double teams together, but also the communication 200 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: between Jamal Brown and Wheeler the right tackle. You could 201 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: see that things are moving in a positive direction. He's 202 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: came in with enthusiasm. He's coming with energy, which is 203 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: tough when you turn around quickly go from one team 204 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: to the other, and basically in less than five days 205 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: he was starting for the opposite team. So there were 206 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: some things in the first game in regards to communication, 207 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: the mental stuff that didn't show up in this football game. 208 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: And one of the great signs that I saw out 209 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: of him in this last game was his energy, his 210 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: passion and his love for the game. Because when you 211 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: have a big run and you're running back storms through 212 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: like say, quand did you want to get down there 213 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: and you want to rally around him? Jamal Brown was 214 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: the first guy to get down there and pick him 215 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: up in that big run. That says a lot about 216 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: him and where he's at right now, and that energy 217 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: is infectious. And something that you see amongst the offensive 218 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: line altogether is how much better they're running the football, 219 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: being able to move people at the point of the 220 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: tack making sure that they're doing more things where they're 221 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: able to win those one on one blocks that they 222 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: need to and the results are shown. All right, two 223 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: oh one, nine, nine four or five one three is 224 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: the number before we say hello to uh somebody on 225 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: the phone. We want to remind all of you folks 226 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: that big blue Kickoff Live here is presented to you 227 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: by Corps Light, So download the cores Light rewards have 228 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: to win yourself Amazing Giants prizes throughout this two thousand 229 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: and eighteen season. Let's now open up those phone lines 230 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: again at two oh one, nine three, nine four or 231 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: five one three. Let's go to Ala Mucci and speak 232 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: with Chris. Hello, Chris, you're on with Russ and Dave today. Hey, 233 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my car Russ and Dave. Happy Thanksgiving 234 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: to both you guys and your family and yours. Chris, 235 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: what's up, buddy? Alright? So you know, and and David 236 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: and and RUSSI both touched upon it with Jamal Brown, 237 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: if I had to, you know, give you a few 238 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: names for mid season acquisitions, which you know, during the 239 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: season you always hear it's hard to find players because 240 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: they'd be they'd be on a practice squad where they'd 241 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: already be uh you know, they'd already be on the team. 242 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: But the uh, the uh, you know, acquisition of Jamal 243 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: Brown obviously, but also Penny of the fullback. I've seen 244 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: him played really well. He's pretty good out of the 245 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: backfield and also has been making some good blocks when 246 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: he's been in the game. And also with our return game, 247 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: I think it's you know, bumping, jumping around at different teams. 248 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: But Corey Coleman seemed like he he may have found 249 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: a home with the Giants. I love the way he 250 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: he just takes the ball and hits the hole on 251 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: those kickoffs and and is not dancing around. And Claudia Henderson, 252 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't had too many returns, but what 253 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: we've seen is a little bit of a spark there. 254 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, I think those four acquisitions have 255 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: definitely mid season uh definitely proven to already pay some dividends. Well, Chris, 256 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: thanks for the call, buddy. I don't think anybody, but 257 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody can argue day with the four 258 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: names he mentioned, mean, Coleman and Henderson have just added 259 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: a jolt of adrenaline and that listen, we would talking 260 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: through a blue in the face about the lack of 261 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: anything from from the special tea. Yeah, with the except well, 262 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, in fairness, both kickers have having fine seasons. 263 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Uh roll us and um Riley Dick punt it. But 264 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, as he said, Coleman and Henderson have 265 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: really this. You know, it's been an adrenaline rush. And 266 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: think about the field position that we've been able to 267 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: get off of special teams. That's something that was lacking 268 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: in the beginning. So Chris brings up a great point. 269 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: And the thing about Penny that you love is is 270 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: it took him a little bit of time because as 271 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: a fullback, not only are you blocking, but you know, 272 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: in this system you need to catch the football out 273 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: of the backfield as well. And now since he has 274 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: this offense down, you can see with Penny at fullback, 275 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: Ellison at the tight end position, with Ingram back healthy 276 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: and them running more out of Eli under center, what 277 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: it's truly done to this offense, not only with just 278 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: running the football, but in the play action passing game 279 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: by getting those linebackers. And Stephan needs to take that 280 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: one step up to open up clear lanes down the scene. 281 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: Steve and Cornwall. Steve, you're on with Russ and Dave. 282 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: How are you, my friend? I'm doing fantastic, fellas. It's 283 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: good to have two wins in a row. How do 284 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: you feel nobody's gonna As Dave likes to say, Vitamin 285 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: W clears a lot of things, and we've had a 286 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: nice little bit of vitamin W the last couple of weeks. 287 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: Let's hope the Giants get it for very Thanksgiving feast. 288 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: That was That is what I'm excited about. You know, 289 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: I was calling to h to talk about Dave gentleman 290 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: and you know this job he's done so far, and 291 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: I want you guys to kind of correct me if 292 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: you think I'm mistaken at all. I hear a lot 293 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: of people talking about he missed on nighth Soldier and 294 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, m I a uh is now not with 295 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: the team, and you know, I'm like the guy it's like, 296 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: can't crucified for some things that I just feel like 297 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: you're unnecessary, Like like he went out and got the 298 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: best tackle that was available. She ran out and how 299 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: how how that pens out this kind of his hend 300 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: she just did as a general manager, he kind of 301 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: did the best he could with what was available. Well, Steven, Steve, 302 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: Steve may inter ject for a second, let's just go 303 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: with your first topic and then you know, we'll let 304 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: you continue on. But we have the advantage of having 305 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: a former offensive lineman here or an offensive lineman here, 306 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: Nate Soldier. From what I'm hearing from different people, football people, 307 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: they're saying, you know what, Nate Solder and you tell 308 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: you clarify this, Nate Soldier isn't doing anything different, playing 309 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: any differently than he had played with the Patriots. The difference, 310 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: at least the first half of the season was you know, 311 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: he he played his position the way it was, but 312 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: Brady was allowed to step up in the pocket when 313 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: he was with the Patriots. Eli the first half of 314 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: the season couldn't step up in the pocket because there 315 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: was no room. There's fresh up there. Now you've seen 316 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: a stabilization, as I said, with Jamal Brown back there 317 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: and and and Pulley at SENTA and all of a 318 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: sudden there is room to step up. So you also 319 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: have the running game and the play action. Is that 320 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: a fair assessment, I would definitely say that. And you 321 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: also have to understand that you know you're going to 322 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: a new offense. You're still learning on the fly as well. 323 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: And one of the things that you're conscious of is 324 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: that you have a rookie starting in the NFL for 325 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: the first time in his career next to you, right 326 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: next to you, and there's a lot of things that 327 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: go on your plate as the tackle that you need 328 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: to help communicate all the way down. And now I'm 329 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: not giving any absorption or any absolption to any of 330 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: the things that took place in the first half, But 331 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: when you add those on top of the fact that 332 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: you're not running the football successfully, you have pressure in 333 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: the A and B gaps, you're learning all these new things, 334 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: it's not going to bode well for you. But the 335 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: thing that you love about him and about the group 336 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: is that he is consistently getting better. As the season progresses. 337 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: You see him communicate much more, not only to the 338 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: tackles and to the guards, but to the tight end. 339 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: That motions are whether he's over there next to him 340 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: and he's playing better football. So we all know that 341 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: it was difficult to see the beginning of this half, 342 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: and every position you can go back and forth based 343 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: upon how they played in the beginning. But the key 344 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: thing is is how is he going to finish out 345 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: the rest of this season? And where are they moving 346 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: forward as an offense? And that's what they're doing together 347 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: as a group. They all have things that they need 348 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: to improve on, but what are they doing. They're making 349 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: progress in the right direction and they're winning football games 350 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: based upon winning the line of scrimmage? What else you have, Steve? 351 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: So with that being said, and I love that. I 352 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: love that what you guys have said. And I was 353 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: thinking about hisn't um you know where I think he 354 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: separated himself far as Jerry race goes is his Italian 355 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: evaluation from the draft seems to be from what the 356 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: first crop of people he's brought in so far, seems 357 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: like you can really trust his eye for talent and 358 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, he's also done in season moves that I 359 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: just don't think Jerry Rice would have ever done Benji, 360 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: Eric Flowers, getting rid of Eric Flowers, and even getting 361 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: rid of a guy that he brought in. Sometimes it's 362 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: it's hard to say you messed up, wasn't the best character. 363 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: You know what, he's gone. He's not with the team anymore. 364 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: And I think if it was Jerry Riese squad, he 365 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: would still be on the team somewhere, you know. And 366 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: but you know what, Steve, let's let you mean Jerry's gone. 367 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: There were two super Bowls under his guidance. You know, 368 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: we don't even need to talk to because exactly, and 369 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: you're right in regards to him and his evaluation. I 370 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: said this in the previous weeks. You know, he was 371 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: the head scout that wrote up my draft prospect review 372 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: and everything for me coming out of Illinois. And he 373 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: was one of the first scouts that I met when 374 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: I became a New York Giant that vouched for me 375 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: with Jim McNally and Ernie of course, so there was 376 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: always that connection with me to him. But you're a 377 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: hunter of percent and what you're saying, because what did 378 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: he say, we are going to continue to move forward 379 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: and do whatever we need to win football games and 380 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: to build this into the best roster that we can. 381 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: Everybody is going to be on call based upon their 382 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: performance and the fact that he went out and did 383 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: that instead of holding on just to try to say 384 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: face when you analyze there's a problem, fix it, move forward. 385 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: And that's what they did, and you you have to 386 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: have the utmost respect for that anything else, Dave, Just 387 00:20:53,760 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: like I didn't want to Yeah, right, exactly, all right, 388 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: that's I just wanted to give me credit for it all. 389 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: Thanks very much, happy thanksgiving, my friend. Thank you to 390 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: two oh one four five one three is the number. 391 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: Let's now go to the Poconos and check in with Dan. 392 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: Hello Dan, Hey guys, a pleasure to talk to you, guys. 393 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: I've never spoken to you. I I do call in 394 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: once in a while, but I've never had the pleasure 395 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: of talking to you two guys. All right, thank you, 396 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: thanks for being on board. Oh absolutely, well, I'll tell 397 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: you I meant my wife and I have season ticket 398 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: holders for many years, and um it's like I just 399 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: had you a quick story. I met actually met Mr 400 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: Deal there. Um it was the last game of the 401 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: season that we went, now I'm being not going to 402 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: get corrected, when we went eleven and six, and it 403 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: was our last home game against Detroit Lions, and we 404 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: won that game, and it was a nasty game. It 405 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: was in the last home game in December, and my 406 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: my seats are right behind, uh well not right behind, 407 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: but behind the Giant's bench on that side eight. And 408 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: it was halftime and I was walking to it, you know, 409 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: probably going to the bathroom or something, and I thought 410 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: I had to rub my eyes. I thought I was 411 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: seeing things. I see this David Deal walking. He was 412 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: doing like a mile a minute. He was, he was motoring, 413 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: he was moving, and I was up to the side 414 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: and there was nobody around you, David, and I just 415 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: said I thought I was imagining it as something. And 416 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: I said, David Deal, and you like stopped in your tracks. 417 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: You looked at me because you probably thought I was 418 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: somebody for a second, you know, And then I said, oh, 419 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: And he looked at me, and I said, oh, I'm 420 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: big fan. And you shook my hands and then you 421 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: went on your way. And it was just a pleasure 422 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: that you actually stopped and spoke to me real quake, 423 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: and I could tell you were you were on Hervey somewhere. 424 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: So anyway, look, Dan, let me ask you this question. 425 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: So you're you're saying that you ran into David uh On. 426 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: I just looked it up on December eighteenth because they 427 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: beat the Lions by the score of seventeen to six. 428 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: Score all right, So now now I'm gonna ask you 429 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: a question. Sure thing, you're a Giants fan. What is 430 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: the significance of that date and that victory on December 431 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. You can't get that easy one 432 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: past me. That was you already had brought this up 433 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: that when we want the last two games in a 434 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: row at home, I guess that that was the last 435 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: time they wont two games in a row. You're right there, 436 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: you go, So now I know you're now I know 437 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: you're a fan because you were listening when I brought 438 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: that up. Who did I bring it up to? I 439 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: think I put it up to fully Dots. What else 440 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: you got, Danny? What else you got, Bud? I appreciate that. 441 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: Oh you're welcome, sir, And I'll tell you Russ. You know, 442 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: I was to be honest with you real quick. Last 443 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: year it was kind of you know, your your rookie 444 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: season on on this show, even though you've been on 445 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: the New York Sport team forever. I grew up. I was, 446 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm in the pocon I was like born 447 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: and raised in the city, and you know, very used 448 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: to hearing your voice. But thanks so much for pointing 449 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: out ESPN and they just always getting and I don't 450 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: want to go on it again. But how do you 451 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: know getting on ELI and not listen. I don't spend 452 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: a lot of time Dan, you know, criticizing other people 453 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: in the business, but what they have done, in particular 454 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: that Monday Night crew, what they did we were talking 455 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: about ELI, it was, to me was absolutely disgraceful. Dave. 456 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: I mean I was never so piste off in my life, 457 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: you know, Booker mcfallen. Shut up. I mean, yeah, no, 458 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: you're right, But you know what, it looks good on 459 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: them because they're getting beaten up now, so and they 460 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: deserve it because they're having their own problems. Thanks for 461 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: the call, day, but happy Thanksgiving. But yep, go ahead, 462 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: go ahead, wait hold, yeah, it was so funny. Paul 463 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: was like, no, I don't want to I don't want 464 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: to call anybody out and you said, oh, I'll do 465 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: employ you that, alright, Okay, Danny, thanks, I'm so tight 466 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: to hear the people, uh, you know, questioning Eli. How 467 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: many times does that man have to prove himself to 468 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: tell let these fans know that you give the guy 469 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: a couple of seconds for crying out loud and look 470 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: what he'll do. Right. Damn, Let's just say this. That 471 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: is the same exact entire crew throughout oh Seminar eleven 472 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: that did not pick us a single time to win 473 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: a playoff game. You guys have a great holiday. Danny, 474 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: happy and healthy to you and yours, my friend, Thank 475 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: you very much. Two one four five one three is 476 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: the number one. To remind everybody once again that big 477 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: blue Kickoff Live here is presented to you by Corpse Lights. 478 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: So download the Coors Light Rewards app to win yourself 479 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: Amazing Giants prizes throughout this two thousand and eighteen season. 480 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: Pocono's Well, let's stick with um stick in Pennsylvania and 481 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: check in with guy Guy. How are you, my friend? 482 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: What's up? Hello? This is this guy from central Pennsylvania. Okay, 483 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: first time, first time caller, Welcome aboard. I have not 484 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: to be a debbut downer. But I have a little 485 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: different perspective on some of this stuff. Go ahead, Last year, 486 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: we had a running back by the name of Orleans 487 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: darkwa Is he's doing the league this year, I do 488 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: not know. I'm not sure. Okay, So he wasn't a 489 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: like a great running back, go ahead, he was like 490 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: a journeyman running back at best. Well, no, I would 491 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: say that, but whatever is pretty good. But but evidently 492 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: you've got no one else did because he's gone no, no, no, 493 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: hold on a second. You know that they drafted a 494 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: guy who's a pretty good running back at number two, 495 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, second pick overall, not to mention the other 496 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: figures four point four yards to carry last year and 497 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: how many games has he missed? In this guy like Fluker, 498 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: Bobby Hart, Brett Jones, Flowers, John Jerry guy. But I 499 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: couldn't stay healthy, we couldn't run the ball, and I 500 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: just it just was hard for me to get a 501 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: grasp on how we could add the two best players 502 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: in the in the NFL football backham and and the 503 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 1: running back Barkley and not and strawboys. Just it just 504 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: seems like somebody missed something. No, no, guy it sounds 505 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: to me, my friend, and thanks for the call, but 506 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: it sounds like you missed something. And what you missed 507 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: is what everybody's been talking about for the first at 508 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: least the first half of the season. To add nauseam 509 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: the offensive you ought to call Charlie in Portland, Maine 510 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: and speak with him about the offensive line. I mean, really, 511 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, all these Darkua was a nice kid 512 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: and in a good running back. Dave you you brought 513 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: it up very well, and he couldn't stay healthy was 514 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: number one, and number two you just got San Barkley 515 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: and you you're worried. You can't figure out why Barkley 516 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: and and O'Dell we're having problems getting the ball. It's 517 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: because Eli was b have knocked on his ass. He's 518 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: still been sacked like thirty five or thirty six times. 519 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: And they were all learning an offense and playing together 520 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 1: at the same time in a new system, which doesn't 521 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: happen seamlessly. I don't want to go back into the 522 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: whole thing in the beginning of what took place, but 523 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: but really I need to bring that up. It's I mean, guy, 524 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of anything anymore. Really, I mean I'll tell 525 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: you what. You can knock me over with a feather. 526 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was going to get in Orleans dark Walk. Yeah, 527 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: I was to you know, really that that's uh, that one, 528 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: that's the one that takes uh takes the cake. But 529 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: we're not we're not taking anything away from him and 530 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: say football at all at all, but we're we're comparing 531 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: Orleans Darkwood at St. Kwon Barkley right now. That's insane. Right, yeah, 532 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: that's the word. Yes, yeah, man, I tell you what 533 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: I interesting. Yeah, that that was an interesting one. That 534 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: was an interesting one. I mean, you know, it's it 535 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: just is, uh, it is what it is. But listen, 536 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: this offense, it just goes to show you, you know what, 537 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: really when you see the last couple of games from 538 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: the Giants, it's it's a validation about why football is 539 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: far and away. You don't have to be a football 540 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: fan to know this. Football is far and away the 541 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: most team oriented sports of all the sports. I mean, 542 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: baseball is not that way. Well, and I'm not talking 543 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: about it's not team sports. You know, you don't root 544 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: for each other, but baseball is a picture. You're throwing 545 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: the ball by yourself. A guy is in the batter's 546 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: box by himself. He a guy is fielding the ball 547 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: by himself. Certainly, one player, one great player. Maybe he 548 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: can't win it all for you, but he can dominate 549 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: everything for you and take control. And hockey not as easy, 550 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: but one player can dominate football. No, I mean, and 551 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: you've seen it this season with the Giants. Ten guys 552 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: do their job. One doesn't. You're screwed. You're done. You're done. 553 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: You're done if you're not keeping the quarterback upright, keeping 554 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: him protect giving him protection. And also with the running back, 555 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean the run run blocking. The first half, they 556 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: didn't have it. They had a great running back without 557 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: a running game. Yeah. Yeah, too many negative plays, too 558 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: many times trying to fight the chains had added up 559 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: to it. You know that The other thing that you 560 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: and I had spoken about before, Um we're talking about 561 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: the run blocking, but also because the offensive line has improved, 562 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: has confidence in that offense. Yeah, so now he's not 563 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: when he sees that or he's just gonna burst for 564 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: the four or five yards as opposed to oh no, 565 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: this is closed, let me you know, because you don't 566 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: have the confidence in that split second, so you're gonna 567 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: try and do something else which results in the negative 568 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: yard loss. This Tampa Bay game is the game that 569 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: I've seen him run without the slightest amount of hesitation. 570 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: His first step, getting downhill, acceleration through the hole. This 571 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: is the grittiest and toughest I think this last game 572 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: he ran. He's explained. I don't know if you saw that, 573 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: and he clarified it on Monday, because downhill is first 574 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: step quicker, you know, talking about the mesh, It wasn't. 575 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: He wasn't just talking about messing chemistry. He was talking 576 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: about taken from from the moment he takes the handoff. Yeah, 577 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: the hitting the hole because the time that that hole 578 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: is open in the NFL compared to college is very slim, 579 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: and you have to run through an arm tackle. And 580 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: for him now, like I said, not only for him 581 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: to speed up that first step, but the fact that 582 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: they're having success running out of underneath center with either 583 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: eleven personnel, one tight end, one running back. However, they've 584 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: been doing it when he can accelerate and get downhill 585 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: quick and it allows the offensive lineman to get on 586 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: their double teams. Quicker. That's where you're seeing the movement 587 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: and then getting up to the second level to give 588 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: him those seams. And you know, we've talked it nausea 589 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: about it, especially for me as a former offensive lineman. 590 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: When you have a talented back like this, all you 591 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: have to do is stay square and give him a 592 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: two way go and he'll do the rest. And that's 593 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: something that they're doing, and he's running confident and believes 594 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: in the guy's up front. So let me ask you this. 595 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: You just made a point. You know, it's different from 596 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: the college in the pros, like you know, for example, 597 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: for running back, how about the difference for an offensive lineman. 598 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: You know, you hear the game. You know the NFL 599 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: is so much faster than the college. No, yes, but 600 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: but for an offensive lineman, how how well how difficult 601 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: is it to adjust? And do you sense the speed 602 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: of the game when you're learning the offensive line position 603 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: wherever that might be. I mean, it's definitely much quicker 604 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: and so much faster, and the precision of it is 605 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: the big difference. In college, you could possibly see something 606 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: a split second late and still be able to either 607 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: recover individually or get something out to help off the 608 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: offensive lineman next to you, whether it's a blitz or 609 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: what be it. You don't have that now. The minute 610 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: that you're late, it's over and you're never gonna catch 611 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: up to it. So that's a big thing. Just your 612 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: knowledge and your preparation and your pre snap recognition of 613 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: what's taking place on the football field is definitely the 614 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: biggest game changer, just because of how precise defenses are, 615 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: either on movement or blitzing or stunts up front. That 616 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: is something that you cannot duplicate in college. Not at all, 617 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: not at all. It's interesting. Two o one four or 618 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: five one three is the number. Let's go to Somerville, 619 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: New Jersey, check in with Joe. Hello Joe, you're on 620 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: with Russ and Dave II rosside Dave. How's it going, 621 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: how's you doing? Happy? Thanks you of sa Alright, a 622 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: long time listener, first time caller. I don't really have 623 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: a question to start with, just just a comment on 624 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: the season right now, go ahead. I want to mention 625 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: the fact that, um, the first time we played the Eagles, 626 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: we got smacked around pretty pretty bad and they kind 627 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: of stuck aforking us right there. Everybody did with Eli 628 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: and the line. It was a lot of hope we're 629 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to rebuild again drafting new QB. But now 630 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: we're playing the Eagles a food a few weeks later, 631 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: and they're saying, if we win, you know, this is 632 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: the start of a run. We can kind of make 633 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: a break towards the postseason. So it's kind of it's 634 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 1: kind of crazy that the football season is actually that long. 635 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: And did Jerry Foston comes on that that's what we 636 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier. It's, uh, you know, this is 637 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get revenge from that Thursday night game 638 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: that wasn't not only a headache for all Giants fans, 639 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: but a headache for the football team in the organization 640 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: based upon knowing that you're going up against a division 641 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: rival who is the defending Super Bowl champs and not 642 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: playing anywhere near the way that you're capable of, so 643 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: you're on a percent correct and this is a game 644 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: that the Giants can go down there not only they 645 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: continue to build momentum, but to build confidence in what 646 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: they're doing and continue to excel moving forward, because, like 647 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: we were talking about, you truly do not know what 648 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: can take place and what can happen throughout the rest 649 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: of the season if you take care of business one 650 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: game at a time. Why don't you have my friend? 651 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, that was I just want to call in 652 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: and mention that because it's just it really tooks me off. 653 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: Everybody wrote off everybody, and everybody was talking ship smack 654 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: about you there. Yeah, I know it's all right. Question, Will, 655 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: since you're on here about the Eagles, what do you 656 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: think the key to winning this football game is? Oh, 657 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: the trench? I would say that that's where we got 658 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: down there last time. I mean I remember, like I 659 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: was just saying the stunts up front with roughing up 660 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: the interior line pretty good, and with Jamon Brown. You know, 661 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: you hate to say that one person, you know, you 662 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: can never say one person makes a team. But what 663 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: he's been able to do, what the offensive line has 664 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: been able to do since he came in, it's, uh, 665 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: it's crazy that they actually turned it around. That. I 666 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: don't think Joe I and and certainly Dave here, I 667 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt that the what we've been 668 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: talking about a much improved offensive line. That offense. Listen, 669 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles have their problems now, certainly in the secondary, 670 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: but that front is a pretty front. You know, the 671 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: four or five seconds. He should be able to expose 672 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: those experienced players back there, the two players for the 673 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: It's just really cool that halfway through the year, I 674 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: was really I wasn't even excited for Sundays. Now, you know, 675 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: even at three, at seven and towards them the year, 676 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: I'm actually excited to sit down and watch the games. 677 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: So I couldn't agree. You know what's kind of funny 678 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: you talk about the first half of the season. You know, 679 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: you look at you you look at your schedule. Okay, 680 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: you're looking at your schedule and where the heck is it? Okay, 681 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: So the last game of the season is a one 682 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: o'clock game on the schedule, Dallas at home. You know 683 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: what everybody was thinking when you looked at this game. 684 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: It's a nothing game. Let me tell you something, even 685 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: if the Giants are not mathematically in it on the 686 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: last game, and to say that game could get flex 687 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: to a night game because Dallas may need to win 688 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: to make the playoff, and let me, let me, let 689 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: me and let me let me tell you something. Even 690 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: if the Giants are out of it and Dallas is 691 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: in that place, is gonna be rocking the game in 692 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: the season, right, I mean people will be pumped up 693 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: for that game, no question, You're You're right, Joe. And 694 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: the thing that I'll go back to Joe the great 695 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: call because the one player on defense for the Eagles, 696 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, is Fletcher Cox. And the player 697 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: for the Eagles offense Zach Ertz. We know that tight ends, 698 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: and this tight end especially has truly hurt us in 699 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: football games. They gotta find a way to minimize his 700 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: effective Yes, yeah, I agree with I understand, especially about 701 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: what kid was to do a few weeks ago. Yeah, 702 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: he's definitely on our radars. And I agree. That's another 703 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: good point right there. So awesome, Joe, Thanks, Happy Thanksgiving, Buddy, Happy, 704 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: Thank you to Joe. Thank you very much. But am 705 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: I right? You look at that thing, you say, so 706 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you look at the schedule and say, 707 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: this makes me a little bit more intriguing now, all 708 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, uh listen, coach Pat Sherman 709 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: said after the game on on Sunday. Yeah, it's crazy, 710 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: isn't it. You look at the schedule and all of 711 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, yeah, every what could go wrong 712 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: for the Giants the first half of the season did 713 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: go wrong. Well, now other things. Is it going wrong? 714 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, and I never wish ever somebody getting hurt, 715 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: in particular hurt the way Alex Smith got hurt. But 716 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 1: that's a killer for them. But that's just an awful 717 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: it's awful. You don't wish that upon anybody, especially, you know, 718 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: one of the really good guys in the NFL. I 719 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody out there has ever met Alex Smith. 720 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: He is an unbelievable person, great guy to talk too, 721 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: loves the game of football, and you know, you just 722 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: hope that he can come back healthy and in one 723 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: piece and get back to playing football. And that's the 724 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: one thing you pray for. But you know that's part 725 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: of the game, though, it is getting injured, and injuries 726 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: take place. And for the Washington Redskins, I thought it 727 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: was a telling point that after this last game, even 728 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: though they lost, colpe McCoy going around to his teammates saying, 729 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: you can trust in me as your quarterback for here 730 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: moving forward. That's just a lot about him as a player. 731 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: But it also tells you a little bit something. I mean, 732 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: whether he they whether he proves that they could count 733 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: on him, you know, that remains to be seen, but 734 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: it also tell us a little bit about some leadership 735 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: that has absolutely a lot of character. You know, definitely, 736 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: what do you say we go down to Florida? Now 737 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: check in with Robert? Hello, Robert, how you doing today? 738 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: You're on with Russ and Dave. Hey, Russell, Dave, how 739 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: you guys doing today? Harry, Holidays, healthy, Thanksgiving. Appreciate that. 740 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: I just wanted to make a couple of quick points. 741 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: The first point I wanted to bring up, um, I 742 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: was listening to the podcast from yesterday's Big Blue Lives, 743 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: and I think like people are under playing the defensive 744 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: turnovers that we're capitalizing on. A lot of people are 745 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: trying to focus in on how the defense didn't make 746 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: plays on a couple of interceptions in that forest bumble 747 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: on the in the red zone. But we need to 748 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: appreciate what we weren't doing in the first half of 749 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: the season is we had poor interceptions, capitalized when it 750 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: did need to happen, and we made plays that we 751 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: weren't making in the first half of the season that 752 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: we are seeing more now in the outer half of 753 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: the season. And my second point that I wanted to 754 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: bring up was I know we've been talking about how 755 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,919 Speaker 1: our linebackers aren't that great in the past coverage and 756 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: saying that we this is all like theoretical, say that 757 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: we keep playing well, keep winning games, and our draft 758 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: position moves further away from being in the top end 759 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: of the draft, and we obviously don't go end up 760 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 1: going the route of a quarterback and our first pick 761 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: or maybe even second pick if we get a good 762 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: enough spot up there. What's your guys opinion on Michigan 763 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: linebacker Devin Bush. I think he's pretty good with pass coverage. Also, 764 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: he can get up there and make plays in the 765 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: backfield and stop the run. So I just want to 766 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: see what you guys thought about him. I don't know 767 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: much about him, so I'll defer. I was going to 768 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: go back to, first of all, to go to the 769 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: first question and the first thing that you talked about, Robert, 770 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: you're a pent correct on that because the defense is 771 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: creating the takeaways that they have. That's something that they 772 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: weren't doing in the beginning of the season. And one 773 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: of the great reason is see why are they creating 774 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: those takeaways. It's not just an understanding of the scheme, 775 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: but what do you see the Giants defense doing flying 776 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: to the football. When you run to the football, and 777 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: when you fly to the football, every defensive coordinator and 778 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: every defensive coach says, good things happen. And when you 779 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: look at some of those interceptions, the tips to being 780 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: able to get the tip drill and catch those, there's 781 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: a reason because guys were in place because they were 782 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: swarming to the ball. And that's something that you want 783 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: to see out of the football team. And that's something 784 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 1: that they're gonna need to do in this game because 785 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: you know Carson Wentz and each and every one of 786 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: these games, he throws one out there and it's up 787 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: to the Giants, just like this last one, and in 788 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: the game in San Francisco, when they put it out there, 789 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: you've got to come away with the takeaway. You can't 790 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: have a or what it could have should have. You 791 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: need to capitalize on those when they're given to you. 792 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 1: You talk about tips, I mean there were a whole 793 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: lot of. I mean, if you watch that game, then 794 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: you're saying you self, now you understand end why they 795 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: concentrate so much in practice on tip drills because that 796 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: was coming in that came into play like three four 797 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: five times exactly. And that's something that you love to 798 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: see because you're taking practice to the game field and 799 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: and it's bringing an energy and passion to that side 800 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: of the defense. And to go back to the linebacker position, 801 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: that's definitely an area that when you move from a 802 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: four three to three four like they have, you have 803 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: to have a lot of linebackers and you've got to 804 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: have versatile line records that all do different things. So 805 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: who knows where it will be in the draft, but 806 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: they're definitely gonna draft the linebacker. You know, Robert, you 807 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: know when you talk about defensive turnovers, you know, it's 808 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: like in baseball, you hear them, you know the phrases, 809 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: oh those bases on balls, Well you hear head coaches 810 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: always say, oh those turnovers, and that's when the game 811 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: gets simple. If you give the ball away, that bites 812 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: you on a rare end. H Conversely, if you don't 813 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 1: get turnovers, that also hurts too. And Sherman was saying 814 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: the same thing, we need to get turnovers. We're not 815 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: giving them giving a bull up. We need to get turnovers, 816 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 1: and they got him. Yeah, oh yeah, I definitely agree 817 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: on that, guys. I appreciate you taking the time to 818 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: answer the questions for me. All right, Robert, you have 819 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: a happy and healthy Thanksgiving down in in Florida. It's 820 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: same here. Um, I don't know, it's I'm still thinking 821 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: about the Orleans Stark. I never you got sa Kwan 822 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: Barkley Russian for seven seven carries a hundred and forty 823 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: two yards and you're talking about Orleans dark. I don't 824 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: And he says, I don't get it what I was watching. 825 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know either. That's a strange guy. Yeah, 826 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: intended good name was guy. But no, But this is 827 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is an exciting game to look forward to. 828 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: It's just it really is, you know, and it's it 829 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: happens to be in away game, you know, not far away. 830 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to it. I'm sitting going to 831 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: beds out in front of me my pads and watching 832 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: that game. It's just nobody three weeks ago had any 833 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: idea we'd be pumped up about this football game. But 834 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: there's what to be pumped up about. I'm very very 835 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: excited about it. I I you know what you hear 836 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: it from the fans. Some of the media people are begrudgingly, 837 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, even some of them still they don't want 838 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,919 Speaker 1: to give Eli the credit. You know what I saw 839 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 1: I read someplace this week. Eli was called the unsung hero, 840 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: the unsung hero in Sunday's Game seventeen for eighteen two 841 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: t D Unsung Unsung What really? Hello? You know, I'll 842 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: tell you what talking about Eli. I sat down with 843 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: Eli before we got on the air here, um, because 844 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, starting to prepare our gather us stuff for 845 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 1: our h Channel five, you know, pregame show. So Eli 846 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: was my feature this week and sitting down with them. 847 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: And by the way, folks, if you want to watch it, 848 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: you can watch it on Channel five on Saturday at 849 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: noon a little plug here, and again at five thirty 850 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: on Channel nine same day Saturday. But you want to 851 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: know something, uh, I asked Eli. Guys the best, he 852 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: just they don't come like him, you know. And I 853 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: asked him, like, if he's playing, if he feels like 854 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, you feel like you're playing 855 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: for your life giants uniform, this is not playing for 856 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: my teammates. That's him playing for my teammates, I asked him. 857 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: And I mean it of for I said, forgetting you 858 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: know me in this business thirty five years. I know 859 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: you Eli for fifteen. Forget it, forget about being an athlete, 860 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: and I mean it, Dave. He is beyond a shadow 861 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: of a doubt, the most even keeled person that I 862 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: have ever met. And I said, well, how do you 863 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: stay that way? Especially, and I used the term with 864 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: all the crap and criticism that's coming. You know, my 865 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 1: father just told me, you know, back in high school, 866 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: just be yourself. I don't want to be something that 867 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. And that's and that's what he is, and 868 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: that's who he is, and that's why you know, people 869 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: are like, oh, he's never screaming in the own but 870 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 1: that's not him. That's not who he is. So if 871 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: he turned into that person, you can see through it 872 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: because it's not genuinely who that person is. And that's 873 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: who his brother is. That's not him, And that's perfectly 874 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: fine because he's able to adapt and adjust and talk 875 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: and relate to players on a different level. And the 876 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: best thing about him is, at the end of the day, 877 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: it's about the team. And it always has been about 878 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: the team, and that's about winning football games, and that's 879 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: all he cares about. He doesn't care who gets the credit. 880 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 1: He doesn't care who gets the fame or the stats 881 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: from it. If there's a w at the end of it, 882 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: he's happy and that's all he wants. And really you 883 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: want everybody on your team to feel that way. But listen, 884 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: he's he's a big boy. He knows how to handle it. Uh. 885 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't know of anybody who's handled criticism in this 886 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: town better than Eli Manning. And now he's standing tall, 887 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 1: and I'll say this right now, if you're asking me, 888 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: gun to my head, in particular, if he keeps playing 889 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: like this, gun to my head right today on the 890 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: twenty one day of uh November two thousand and eighteen, 891 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: I think in September two thousand and nineteen, number ten, 892 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: Eli Manning will be your starting quarterback for your New 893 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 1: York Football Giants. I was asked this last week, what 894 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: are the odds do I think that he I will 895 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 1: be back here? And I said about forty Maybe people 896 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: looked at me like I was crazy. I said, number one, 897 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 1: if he can continue to play the way that he's doing, 898 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 1: and you see how the system works now, Number one, 899 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: it gives you a positive outlook on things. And then 900 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: number two. Regardless next year they're going to get a 901 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: quarterback and free agency here in the draft. That's going 902 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 1: to happen. We know that. And when you do make 903 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 1: that decision, even though you don't use the word mentor, 904 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: who's going to help groom that player? Well, whether you 905 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: don't want to use the word mentor, Dave and I 906 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: agree with you because he leads my example when he 907 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: does it, because that's who he is. But I'll call 908 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 1: it the bridge, the bridge to the next guy. And folks, 909 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: I promise you this is I'm based on what I'm 910 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: saying here to you and to David on no inside information, none, 911 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,399 Speaker 1: what's talking I'm talking with just talking my own eyes. 912 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: If you asked me today, he will be Eli Manning 913 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: will the bridge. What I mean by the bridge, he 914 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: will be the starting quarterback. And the only reason he's 915 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 1: gonna be the starting quarterback is because they're gonna believe 916 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: he's the right guy to be the starting quarterback. And 917 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: it'll be he'll be the starting guy. They'll draft somebody 918 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: or or or you can see because first of all, 919 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 1: if the Giants continue to win some games, not draft 920 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: of the high as everybody was thinking. A couple of 921 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and that nonsensical crap about they should tank 922 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: the season. Somebody brought up, um who brought it up? 923 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: And the Calves though, no, but you brought somebody brought 924 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: up something that you said, a caller brought up uh, 925 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, because they were thanking us also agreeing not 926 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: to tank the season. But I was asking or you said, well, 927 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: how do you feel after the game when you're going home? 928 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: You glad when they lose? Yeah? Yeah, he was so, well, 929 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: we want a good draft pick. I'm like, well do 930 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: you want to contin and you to go through a 931 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: season like this is this how you live life that 932 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: you look forward to the next year and you're not 933 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: going to capitalize on the six or seven eight opportunities 934 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 1: that are still in front of you. As a competitor, 935 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: as an athlete, you go into every game looking to win, 936 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: playing and simple. But for football players it's even that 937 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: much more. And I'm not saying because you only have 938 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: sixteen opportunities. Not only do you only have sixteen opportunities, 939 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: but tanking. The physicality in football has a lot to 940 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: do with I mean going like, if you want to 941 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 1: use the term tank or what, that's one thing if 942 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: it's basketball or something. In football, you're getting beaten up 943 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: in practice, you're getting beaten up in games, and tanking 944 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: means you are getting physically dominated. So now it's being 945 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: physically dominated as well as mentally dominated or vice versa. 946 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean that is demoralizing, of course it is, and 947 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: that wears on you. And that definitely changes the complex 948 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: and the competition more than anything, the confidence of your 949 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: football team. If that's the way that you thought about it. 950 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,959 Speaker 1: This is the New York football giants we're talking about. 951 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you when I started covering football on a 952 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: regular basis, when I first got into the business. And 953 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: so now I'm in locker rooms after games and during 954 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: practices and this and that, and I'm watching guys walk 955 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: around and the marks on them and this and that, 956 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 1: and it struck me. Man, TV doesn't do it justice, 957 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, those and those big violent hits in the 958 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: violence of the game. It does not do it justice. 959 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: Do you watch the guys in the locker room after 960 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 1: a game with in practice walking around. I mean, then 961 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: that's when you really feel and get a grasp of 962 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 1: just how physically physically tough this sport is. I know, 963 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: I know, and it is. It's physically demanding. It's more 964 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,439 Speaker 1: than anything, it's about having the mental toughness to push 965 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: through it for an entire season, because, like I were 966 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: just saying, this is the professional football League, this is 967 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: the NFL, and unlike other sports, you only have sixteen opportunities. 968 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: You don't play well, you have to sit on it 969 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: for a week to redeem yourself individually and as a 970 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: football team. In baseball and basketball, I can play tomorrow 971 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: the day after we got over and you get it 972 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: out of yourself and you get it out of your system. 973 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: There's no getting it out of your system until you 974 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 1: fully go through a week and have to have the 975 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: same energy and intensity as game one that you do 976 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 1: when you're playing in game sixteen. You know, like like 977 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,760 Speaker 1: you make an era today playing baseball, you go out tomorrow, 978 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: get a base it it's your deem, you know. Evan 979 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: Ingram was talking about that when he dropped that fourth 980 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,720 Speaker 1: and three, uh, you know, and it was a crucial 981 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: drop and he said, you know it was brutal. I mean, 982 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: you're living with that to the next game. I mean 983 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: it's you go on home, you're thinking about it all 984 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: you're thinking about it. You're come into practice every day 985 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: you're thinking about it. People aren't lets you aren't letting 986 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: you forget about it. It's just a constant yeah, and 987 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: until you were able to go put something on film 988 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: and to change that perception, you're gonna sit there and 989 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: eat it, you know. Folks just gotta remind everybody. Uh, 990 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: today uh is our last day before Thanksgiving. Tomorrow everybody 991 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: here is off and then people will be back with 992 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,399 Speaker 1: you on Friday. So I just want to make sure 993 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: everybody you know knows that. And uh uh it is 994 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: a Big Blue Kickoff holiday as well, so uh be 995 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: aware of that. Again. The number is two A, one 996 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: four five one three. Want to remind everybody that Big 997 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live as always is presented to you by 998 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: cores Light. Download the cores Light Rewards app to win 999 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: yourself Amazing Giants prizes Throughout this season. Some people were 1000 00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: talking yesterday about the moves, you know, getting ready to 1001 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: wrap things up here, people were talking about the moves. Uh. 1002 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,240 Speaker 1: In fact, maybe it was Lenn from from Columbia, Maryland 1003 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: who was a great Giants fan. He I think it 1004 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: was Len who brought up the fact that you know, 1005 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: we really miss um snacks David Harrison, and you know 1006 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't you know when you look at try to 1007 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 1: analyze why a trade they had certain guys on that team, 1008 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't you can say just money or or or 1009 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 1: speculate the locker room in so that to me, there 1010 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,800 Speaker 1: were guys, in particular Dalvin Thomason. You've got young guys 1011 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: that you want to see. You gotta find out if 1012 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: the other guys too, because if they're not, then you 1013 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: need to know that. So you're not making errors when 1014 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: the draft comes up exactly. And that's one thing that 1015 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: you're continuing to do. Like we said, turning the roster, 1016 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna truly see what each and every one of 1017 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: these players are made of moving out of here forward. 1018 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 1: And I see nothing but positive signs coming out of 1019 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: Delvin Tomlinson and b J. Hill, not only just in 1020 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: their understanding of what they're doing scheme wise, but their technique. 1021 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: That's something that's definitely improved. Think about Dalvin Tomlinson was 1022 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 1: one of the best run stopping defensive tackles, and now 1023 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: with b J Hill and the fact that they're being 1024 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: able to be disruptive into playing this defense. This experience 1025 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: that they're having in these games up against some very 1026 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 1: good offensive lineman is only gonna make them grow that 1027 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 1: much faster and develop into a better football player earlier. 1028 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: And you, you know, you go on to see what Mackintosh, 1029 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: you know how that he's bad gotting on he's back. 1030 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 1: So listen, youth is being served, and what could be better? 1031 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: When youth is being served you're finding out answers and 1032 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 1: you're winning football games, then two things are being accomplished. 1033 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: Because the mindset is winning builds confidence. Losing goes in 1034 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,720 Speaker 1: the opposite direction. You're also finding out and you've given 1035 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: guys value, double playing time, valuable playing time. And you know, 1036 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: to me, somebody was asking me, we're talking about it 1037 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: over lunch. Today's asking me, well, is we're gonna see 1038 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 1: this guy or you're gonna see Kyle Letter or Tannis 1039 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 1: if they earn the right, Well but him, no, they 1040 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: might be able to earn the right. But I'll tell 1041 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: you what if the Giants are winning games, or the 1042 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: Giants are in games, unless god a bit he gets hurt. 1043 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 1: Eli ain't taking a seat, No, I know not. But 1044 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: I was saying, based upon the practice in the way 1045 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: the players perform if they earn that right, they will play. 1046 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,959 Speaker 1: I mean, boy, look look how how quickly things change. 1047 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: I think, think about the folks. You know everything went 1048 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: wrong for the Giants. Well now things are going wrong 1049 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: for you know, their opponents. So we shall see what happens. 1050 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: But right now that is a wrap. Here on Big 1051 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff live on Giants dot Com. For our man 1052 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 1: at the Control else today Brandon Roth for David Deal. 1053 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: For myself Russ Salzburg. Want to wish all of you 1054 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: and your families are happy and healthy Thanksgiving holiday tomorrow. 1055 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: Make sure if you're traveling you're driving safe, stay well, 1056 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: and I'll see you next week. Go Giants in Philly. 1057 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: Ye