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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, we are unpaywalling the two hundredth episode of

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Speaker 1: The Flaker Ones with special guests Craig Kilbourne. If you'd

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Speaker 1: so much and enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: We haven't started yet, correct, we started.

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Speaker 3: Let's call it, let's say, let's say here, let's start

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because this.

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Speaker 4: Is how you know and your hosting career. I don't

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Speaker 4: know why you just didn't do it like this where

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Speaker 4: like everyone is just talking at the second and you

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Speaker 4: suddenly bring it on them.

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Speaker 2: But there are show because there are things I might

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Speaker 2: say that it's like innocently to you guys, like oh,

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Speaker 2: I didn't get my sleep last night. I'm only in

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Speaker 2: my six hours, and then I don't want that out there, like,

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Speaker 2: oh he's whining, that's your So you know, I put

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Speaker 2: on a little bit of them a little more professional

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Speaker 2: when we started.

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Speaker 5: But but Craig, I had a sleep related question for you, just.

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Speaker 3: To check in with your energy level and what I

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Speaker 3: need to bring because I did listen to you on

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Speaker 3: Goldie's show. Are we dealing with Valerian root, Craig or

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Speaker 3: Melatone and Craig? Because I know that Melatone and Craig

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Speaker 3: is a little groggier that's funny.

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Speaker 2: Thank god neither and I won't be doing that very often.

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Speaker 2: I know I do it maybe three times a year.

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Speaker 2: And I did it actually two days before I talked

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Speaker 2: to those guys. I had them on my podcast. I

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Speaker 2: might actually re record it. I haven't decided those guys

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Speaker 2: are nice, but I'm I got I have pretty good

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Speaker 2: energy today.

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Speaker 5: Great, No, I've been feeling good energy.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Jesus, if this is Melatone and Craig,

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Speaker 3: I hate to see the full bore versions.

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Speaker 2: Have you guys ever taken either Valerian root or melatonin?

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Speaker 3: I took Valerian root last night, No way, and I

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Speaker 3: will and I woke up seeing spots man.

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Speaker 5: It's too much for me. My body can't handle that

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Speaker 5: kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you take it last night? You couldn't

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Speaker 2: You couldn't fall asleep or.

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Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I was having a little trouble falling

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Speaker 3: asleep this whole week, I said, I got to bed

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Speaker 3: a little earlier, I said, let me turn it in.

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Speaker 2: Is it the h the excitement of the Timberwolves and

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Speaker 2: the Rudy Gobert trade. A lot of people across the

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Speaker 2: country are having trouble sleeping with anticipation for your Minnesota timberwolve.

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Speaker 5: To see the twin Towers out there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you move towns over to the fur what's

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Speaker 3: your I know you're a big Timberwolves fan. What is

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Speaker 3: your opinion on the trade? Do you do you like it?

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Speaker 3: Do you think they gave up too much?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 2: Am I dealing with basketball ficionados or just casual fans?

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Speaker 2: Or what am I? What am I dealing with with you? Guys?

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Speaker 4: We're a three levels of expert.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Carl's master, super level expert.

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Speaker 3: Hayes used to actually write for the Celtics True Blog.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah right, and then I, of course, am just

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Speaker 3: still finding my way through this world of hoops.

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Speaker 2: So I I've since the second grade, I've been addicted

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Speaker 2: to the NBA. I started playing basketball, and I played

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Speaker 2: in college, but I always play what's that.

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Speaker 7: You play a little bow? Heard you play a little bow?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? At Montana State the basketball power. But I

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Speaker 2: was a poor man's pistol pete. The defensive stance hurt

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Speaker 2: my lower back, but I was very crazy. It is

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Speaker 2: too Yeah, yeah, I was creative offensively. No two shots

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Speaker 2: were the same. No I I shot a three pointers

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Speaker 2: at Scoopiots. Yeah, no, I was kidding. It's like on

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Speaker 2: Ambadextris or as the guy from NC State said, amphibious,

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Speaker 2: which is the old joke. But no, no, I could play.

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Speaker 2: But as far as the NBA, I love the NBA,

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Speaker 2: other games, but I watch all eighty two games with

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Speaker 2: the Timberwolves. And it's hard to get guys up there.

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Speaker 2: Fortunate to get KG. Small market teams are difficult to

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Speaker 2: difficult to get free agents up there. Thank god KG

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Speaker 2: wanted to stay, Kevin Love did not, Stefan Marvey did not.

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Speaker 2: Looks like Kat wants to stay. Hopefully Anthony Edwards does.

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Speaker 2: But we were the Wolves were talking about a year

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Speaker 2: and a half ago, years ago, to get somebody to

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Speaker 2: as you know Anthony Davis with the Lakers, he gets

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Speaker 2: to play power forward. You get to put Dwight Howard

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Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert was available. I will not defend the package

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Speaker 2: we gave up. It was excessive in my opinion. My

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Speaker 2: joke is, which if you know the NBA, but the Wolves,

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, how can Danny Ainge make this trade and

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Speaker 2: not get Jaden McDaniels. He's a He's he's the guy

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Speaker 2: that they want. He's a young talented player, you know

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Speaker 2: Scottie Pippenlyte, but he's uh. So we kept our core group.

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Speaker 2: Didn't mind getting rid of Patrick Beverly or Malik Beasley.

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Speaker 2: And I'm excited to see how Rudy works with Kat.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be either good or very good.

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Speaker 2: And we were bad on defense, and when we lost

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Speaker 2: rebounding like a madman. Yeah, and we we were one

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm excited. I'm I. I mean, they could

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Speaker 2: be three future Hall of Famers actually, Kat Go Bear

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited, long answer, but I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I just want to say Anthony Edwards is

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Speaker 3: probably the most exciting young player to meet right now,

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Speaker 3: and his performance in Adam Sandler's Hustle was otherworldly.

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Speaker 3: But but the package was big, and I thought, why

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Speaker 3: did they give up so many picks? And the comment

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Speaker 3: I did see from a Timberwolves fan that resonated with

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I guess you look at it that way.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if other teams have made as many

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Speaker 4: Number one, John Flynn. Yeah, John ones have gone pretty

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Speaker 4: well through other franchises. But yeah, Johnny, he was so

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Speaker 2: Though I know, and I apparently in the NBA he

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Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't very good obviously. Who else? They're

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Speaker 2: i'd have to look at the draft to see Wesley Johnson.

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Speaker 2: We took all these guys and it's just and we also.

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Speaker 3: I think they want they They drafted for defense on

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Speaker 3: a few of those where it was like, I feel

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Speaker 3: like Culver was supposed to be a good defender, Chris

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Speaker 4: Went after him? A kogi?

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Speaker 3: You know, not that there were necessarily great players available

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Speaker 7: Let me ask you this, though, what is what is

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Speaker 7: your What do you think Anthony's ceiling is?

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Speaker 2: Nationally, everyone like I talked to Ryan Rossillo and some

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Speaker 2: on the national level, and I watch every game and

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Speaker 2: he's not consistent yet. But I can't tell to answer

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Speaker 2: your question specifically, none of us know because his rookie year.

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Speaker 2: You know he's he was supposed to be very raw.

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Speaker 2: He handles the ball really well. No one talks about

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Speaker 2: more of a pure shooter. He's a better shooter. He

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Speaker 2: works on he's streaky. He makes these threes, but his

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Speaker 2: and crowd is kind of ridiculous. So they were comparing

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Speaker 2: him to Dwayne Wade, which is high praise because I

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Speaker 2: think Dwayne Wade is unbelievable. But I don't know what

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Speaker 2: his ceiling is. But everyone thinks he's going to be

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Speaker 2: pretty special. I will say so. I watched every game

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Speaker 2: But he had he had two games back to back.

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Speaker 2: He had the play in game with the Clippers, he

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Speaker 2: in the Wolves organization I know, and I said, we

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Speaker 2: don't know how good this guy could be. Like the

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Speaker 2: big games, he it was unreal. Then he came down

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Speaker 2: I can't tell. He's definitely really really good. Is he

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Speaker 4: So, you know, he sort of improved, I would think

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Speaker 4: basically exactly the way you'd want between his age, like

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Speaker 2: It went up, it went up. I just there are

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Speaker 2: times it's kind of weird where Coach Finch, who we

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Speaker 2: don't settle and he settles for three pointers, but he

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Speaker 2: makes some of them. I mean, it's weird. Sometimes they

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Speaker 2: it wears him out to drive all the time. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it just wears a guy out.

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Speaker 4: Sure, yep.

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Speaker 2: And I remember there was this game. I actually might

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Speaker 2: have Chris Finch on the show, and I want to

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Speaker 2: ask him about this because in the Wolves organization, everyone

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Speaker 2: loves Chris Finch. He's like the most popular guy. He

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Speaker 2: just got an extension. We call him Finchy. And they

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Speaker 2: said he was an offensive savant with his play calling

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Speaker 2: and his offensive flow and everything. There was a game

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Speaker 2: two years ago where Kat and Aunt scored both scored

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Speaker 2: over forty. It was at Phoenix and in the fourth

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Speaker 2: quarter we saw something, Well where did this come from?

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Speaker 2: That cat Kat was in the high post and they

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Speaker 2: had they had ant rundown and post up like back

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Speaker 2: to back plays like post up. I was like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, keep posting his ass on. This is fun

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Speaker 2: because you know it doesn't wear you out as much.

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Speaker 2: But I haven't seen that. I want to ask him, Finch,

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Speaker 2: he'll He'll probably say it just depends on the matchups.

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Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, he ran Anthony Edwards down in

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Speaker 2: the post and he doesn't have to spend all that

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Speaker 7: You know, he's so good. I think his ceiling is

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Speaker 7: through the roof. He's my favorite young guy, like out

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Speaker 7: of all, like the news generation. Once my goat, Lebron

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Speaker 7: retires and you know, whatever happens with huh?

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Speaker 2: What about Josh Giddy? Just as your I was kidding.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I'm surprised, Carl that you've let this Craig slide

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Speaker 7: he was. Y'all went as far as I get help,

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Speaker 2: Uh. Doc Rivers says Pat Beverly is crazy. He's certainly

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I say, I don't want to win with this guy,

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Speaker 2: what if he undercuts my man aunt this year? Because

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Speaker 2: I don't like him.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you don't like my favorite guys? Yeah, I like.

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Speaker 2: Growing up, this guy, everyone thinks it was Larry Bird

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Speaker 4: He didn't. He didn't I know that.

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Speaker 2: Doctor J. It was. It was Doctor J. So what

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Speaker 2: My dad was a Knicks fan. We moved to Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Oh really yeah? Is that just for me? Just for

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Speaker 2: And he had this book called Rock and Steady a

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Speaker 2: we're not doing that. So anyways, that was a real

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Speaker 4: I've got I've got a.

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Speaker 3: Doctor J story that won't be interesting to anyone else,

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Speaker 3: But my parents went to college with doctor.

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Speaker 3: They were there at the same time. And I believe

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Speaker 3: The story goes that my mom was working at the

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Speaker 3: and then he scribbled a little something on a napkin

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Speaker 5: Counter to the redhead scoop and the mashed potatos.

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Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, have you guys ever heard and

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Speaker 2: that Fowt University, Massachusetts, remember that or not? Now? Julius,

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Speaker 2: the Dave Zincoff, the PA for the Sixers, he was

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Speaker 4: What if we like think about free sure, guys like

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Speaker 4: Let me get that book. Yea, yeah, I want to

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Speaker 2: Speaking of cool, you know what's cool young people? Craigers

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Speaker 2: has a new podcast called The Life Gorgeous and I

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Speaker 2: that's before you're very smooth. I did like the Celtics.

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Speaker 3: But Westbrook, it's interesting you you bring him up after

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Speaker 4: How brutal would it have been. I think it's the

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, they would just have to lean over to

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Speaker 2: That's what they said after that, because they the Madison

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Speaker 2: It was the sport of the eighties. Magic Larry and

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Speaker 2: and you know, but I miss Larry. I miss Larry Legend.

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Speaker 4: Craig.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to forget to ask you about your

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Speaker 5: It it's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: It's very similar to lamps that are featured at The Prince,

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Speaker 4: I've been inside it, you know, the two dollars.

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Speaker 3: The show New Girl, their local hangout bar pilot was

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Speaker 2: They used it. It's a it's a very cool interior.

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Speaker 2: Donaway and Jack Nicholson and the Prince. I went about

433
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 2: a year ago for the first time ever. Crowded. It

434
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 2: was late crowded. Probably need to be vacuumed without hurting

435
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: anyone's feelings. The food was.

436
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 4: Got awful, eh you got it's a big menu, yeah yeah.

437
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 4: And maybe they're doing too many things.

438
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god, it was awful.

439
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 4: I mean you check out the lamps.

440
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 2: No, I just I saw all the red and I

441
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: just liked it, but I did not see the lamps.

442
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 2: Don't jump out. This is this is kind of a

443
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 2: unique one with the Mica shade. But the Conquistador is. Yes,

444
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: I've had it a long time, Craig.

445
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: Have you read The Big Goodbye?

446
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: No, I believe I part I saw part of the

447
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 2: movie was the movie with Elliott goul Well.

448
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: Oh, sorry, that's the Long Goodbye.

449
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: The Big Goodbye is a more recent book about the

450
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 3: making of Chinatown.

451
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: Oh.

452
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 3: Actually, heavily features interviews with a friend of yours, mister

453
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: Robert Evans.

454
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I heard about that a few years ago.

455
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be riveting, right.

456
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 4: Terrific book. Yeah, I'm just about to finish it.

457
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 3: Actually, I've got I've only got I've only got like

458
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: twenty pages left.

459
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 4: But absolutely loved it.

460
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: The stories of the writing and the way that plants

461
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: came change, the script and the whole production process, the

462
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: duneaway and Nicholson stories from the set.

463
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 4: It's really really good.

464
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: You've heard me tell my. There are a couple Evan stories.

465
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: One I can't tell, but but one I can't, but

466
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 2: I've told I've told it a few times. Have you

467
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 2: heard the one about having dinner with him? You've heard that,

468
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: and I did that on a couple of podcasts.

469
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 5: I don't know that one. We're happy to claim, so.

470
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 2: I'll make it quick. So I used to have dinner

471
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: with him. We'd go to the Palmer Spago and he'd

472
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 2: bring I was with my then girlfriend and he had

473
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: a girlfriend, and would go and after at the end

474
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: of dinner, he'd look at me and you get you guys,

475
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: want anything else? You want anything else? No, we're fine,

476
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: let's go. Let's just go, and we'd walk out without paying.

477
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: He'd walk out without paying because they would they would

478
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: send him the bill. They would send a bill to

479
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: him at these restaurants, and at Spago, the young waiter

480
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: freaked out and Wolfgang goes, it's okay, it's okay. And

481
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: the rumor was that the bill would go to some

482
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: to Redstone, that he would cover it because Bob made

483
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: so much money for Paramount with the Godfather, so that

484
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: was kind of it was very cathartic just to walk

485
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: out of the restaurant.

486
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 4: Without paying then just know someone will get it. Yeah,

487
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 4: And I'll never hear about this again. Yeah, no one,

488
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 4: we'll ever mention it to me. That's cool.

489
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: And to get stopped by a young waiter and say, oh, no,

490
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: you're mistaken.

491
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I'm doing is correct.

492
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 3: Me just standing up and walking away from a table

493
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: without even seeing the check and what you're doing is wrong.

494
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 4: That's a special feeling. I bet I had a similar

495
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: experience last night at a restaurant where I'm leaving and

496
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 4: someone that the bus boy is kind of like making

497
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 4: eye contact with me as I go, and I'm like, oh,

498
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: this supposed to be a fan. Let's like, you know,

499
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 4: let's let the whole conversation. I'll I'll give my time

500
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 4: to this guy. And he goes, has anyone ever told

501
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 4: you you look like the guy who owns Virgin Airlines? Oh?

502
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're just building to it.

503
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 4: And I was like, don't tell me this, that's my

504
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 4: way out. I've just had a nice No. The answer

505
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 4: is no, that's crazy. Why have I never thought about that?

506
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: Because you always wear light blue button ups too? Is

507
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 4: that what he wears?

508
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: Richard blue button Branson in those when he's a guest

509
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 3: Shark got Shark Take?

510
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 4: He I was wearing that last night.

511
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, are you wearing one right now? Oh yeah, Oh

512
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 7: my gosh.

513
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: In the morning, so I dressed up, you know, yeah,

514
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 3: I gotta put some buttons on.

515
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: Crag Craig, big wave in your hair. It's huge, thanks

516
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: huge with it's the head hours.

517
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

518
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

519
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 4: Three point contests with Steve Kerr. You airball the first one,

520
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 4: it didn't have any of the first and.

521
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: Then six for nine after that.

522
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 4: I've got that wet ball after that.

523
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: After after the first rack, I went six for nine. Uh.

524
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: Couple things these are and and I like to teach

525
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: these are reasons, not excuses, reasons I struggled on the first.

526
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: I wasn't supposed to shoot that day. I was supposed

527
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: to referee Kenny Smith versus versus Steve Kerr. I went,

528
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: I had a long night, I had VODK in my system.

529
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: I woke up. I said stiff. I said, God, I'm

530
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 2: so glad I don't have to play anymore. Hey, Craig,

531
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: Kenny Smith can't make it. You got to go agains

532
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 2: Steve here. Okay, I'm ready ready. So I go there

533
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 2: and I and I I warm up a little bit

534
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: and Steve Kerr is like, whoa. I might be in

535
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: trouble because I'm a shooter. I gotta I can shoot

536
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: you downtown, Freddie Brown, Mark Price, I can shoot the

537
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: best part of my game is my passing. But we don't.

538
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 2: We won't have time for that. A lot of no looks,

539
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: eyes in the back of the head. Larry Legend boo, yeah,

540
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: first shot I take. I'm excited, I say, Larry, and

541
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: I airball it and then I and then I uh,

542
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: then I hate. I get warm afterwards. I've told this before,

543
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: but afterwards, you know, I lose. The NBA wanted me

544
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: to lose. Anyways, they didn't want me to beat Steve kerk.

545
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: They didn't want that. But he said to me, Steve

546
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: Kerr says, have you ever practiced pulling pulling the ball

547
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: off the rack, pulling it off and bringing it here.

548
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: I said, no, I've never, And of course he goes, well,

549
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: you got to get used to that first. You got

550
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: to get used to that. I said, well, it's a

551
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 2: bad pass. If the ball is way over here and

552
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 2: you're pulling it back to your body. I'm not it's

553
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: a bad pass. So I wasn't used to pulling it

554
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: off a rack. It was a late night but once

555
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: I got warm six for nine, not too bad. I

556
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: don't know.

557
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: Should they change the three point contest so that it's

558
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: more of a catch and shoot motion where someone is

559
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: firing the ball to the shooter like a home run derby.

560
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to say no, because there'll be some it's

561
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: you're you're adding a variable. You're adding a variable, and

562
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: there'll be a bad pass or someone little jam of

563
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: finger or something. And and I think these guys are

564
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: now used to it. They shoot pretty well just because

565
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: I struggled.

566
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 7: It's no fun anymore. It's too easy now. I think

567
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 7: that would be a great variable to add it.

568
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: So I like I like it. I like it more

569
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: than dunk contest because Cat one man, Cat won the

570
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: three point contest. What a feathery.

571
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 4: He really was into it too. I mean sometimes you

572
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 4: don't know if they really he really wanted to win.

573
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it with I? I've noticed this. I've

574
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: talked to people so nationally everyone loves Anthony Edwards. Everyone

575
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: has a problem with Cat. Why do you Why does

576
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: everyone have a problem with Cat?

577
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 4: I don't tell you any language.

578
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, he whinds. He winds more than a collagey baby.

579
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: He he's kind of got bad posture.

580
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 7: He's lunches, he's.

581
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: He's he's really tall, and his shoulders kind of slump.

582
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: I say, this is someone with bad posture and slumping shoulders.

583
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: But I watched him.

584
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: We went to summer League right after he was drafted,

585
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: and I and I watched him close, and I guess

586
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: it's summer league, you know, you don't have to really care.

587
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: But it was his first time playing, you know, as

588
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: an NBA player with the Timberwolves Jersey on and he just,

589
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: I mean, he just kind of had his shoulder slumped

590
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: and he shuffled around. It just seemed like he didn't

591
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: give a shit. And then I went to see another

592
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: current Timberwolves player, D'Angelo Russell. Has not borne out to

593
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: be the star people thought he would be.

594
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you he was. He was fired up.

595
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was excited and he was and he was

596
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: putting on a show for everyone.

597
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 5: And I thought, well, at least this guy cares.

598
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: And I you know, obviously, kat incredible high level player

599
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: is in the NBA putting up huge numbers. But it

600
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 3: doesn't I don't know what it is. His face is posture,

601
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: You don't feel the passion. Maybe it's not fair, but

602
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: it doesn't.

603
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I've never heard the posture thing about Cat,

604
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: but I know people are irritated with Cat, and I

605
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: love him. He's definitely quirky, quirky personality.

606
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 7: Craig, let's go back to went to the playing game.

607
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 7: Let's think about you. I know you watched the whole

608
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 7: game just as I did. Yeah, we uh we shut

609
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 7: Cat down. That was the game play was.

610
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: That was the number one thing. You got to shut

611
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: this guy down because he's unbelievable and you can take

612
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: a player out. I saw Dame Dollar a couple of

613
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: years ago dominate in the playoffs and then play the

614
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: Warriors and they just took him out of the Seperamas,

615
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: double team them, trap him. You can do that.

616
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 7: You can do that, but doesn't have it. We didn't

617
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 7: have an answer for Anthony and I had a great

618
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 7: shooting game.

619
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: And now guess who had the best game in that game?

620
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: For Jangelo twenty nine points. Yeah, and he's streaky and

621
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: he played well.

622
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 5: He could go off.

623
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 7: But my point is when you watched Cat during that game,

624
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 7: as he's being shut down defensively, it's like it's like

625
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 7: he was like I'm giving I'm not getting my way.

626
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 7: He complained about he would miss an open layup that

627
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 7: nobody was even guarding him on that he just missed

628
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 7: the layup and then immediately run to the rest and

629
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 7: complain about it. And it's like, hey, man, don't give

630
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 7: up on your team even though, like, find another way

631
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 7: to be successful, grab a rebound for a change, do

632
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 7: something else. He wasn't doing anything else. And I think

633
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 7: that's the attitude that people don't like about him. Well,

634
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 7: he completed, he gets shut down. He completely gave it.

635
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 7: He gave up after the middle of the second quarter.

636
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so there is something that I you know, obviously

637
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler didn't like him. Let me just say something.

638
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm stunned. My favorite stat in the NBA is field

639
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: goal percentage. His first three years he shoots fifty four percent.

640
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: His jump hop down low is automatic, his three pointer.

641
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: He's just unreal. Now. He's definitely way too animated. He's

642
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: a whiner. We're all concerned about his foul trouble. He

643
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: does things where I was at games three and four

644
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: against Memphis and right in front of me, he reached

645
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: up to get a rebound with his right hand his

646
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: left hand, he pulled the guy on the hip and

647
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: they called a foul. And I think he was like,

648
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: he probably thought he's being sneaky where no one could

649
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: see it. Everyone in Minnesota huge, everyone in Minnesota is

650
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: concerned about his fouling and his whining. Yeah, okay, but

651
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I thought it was some guys are

652
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: like because no big can guard him. You see what

653
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: what Tyrone Lud Tyrone Lud did was he he'd usually

654
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: have a power forward, like when they played Utah. Gobert

655
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: can't gard him, so they have a power forward. Then

656
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: they have Gobert come over and double team. Jolkic can't

657
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: guard him, and Be can't guard him. He's too quick.

658
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: But I understand where he bothers people. And I thought

659
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: it was more of the personality or something. Uh, but

660
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: there is something funny where Chris Finch says he came

661
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: up with this term himself. So Kat drives a lot.

662
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: He'll drive a lot, fall down, dunk or score, maybe

663
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: laid in. But he goes flailing and his body like

664
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: it's flailing and he whoa to the ref and and

665
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: Finch she said, you know, cat's got stray voltage. We

666
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: never heard this. What stray voltage? He's got some stray voltage.

667
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: And everyone in Minnesota, the local media, we were all

668
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: laughing and my friends were laughing that Finchy came up

669
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: with this kind of kind of like making fun of cat.

670
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, people have a problem with I heard posture.

671
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent right about the whining. I just

672
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: think the guy I saw him scarre sixty at San Antonio.

673
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: He doesn't get his his This is the greatest shooting

674
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: shooting big man of all time.

675
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: Are you serious or not?

676
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 4: He says that I'm one hundre. I think he don't

677
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: talk to me about Dirk. Dirk half as many attempts

678
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: per game with the lower per I mean the game changes.

679
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 5: Obviously Dirk played in this era.

680
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 4: Maybe there'd be a I was just doubts out Freddie Brown.

681
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: Do you know how the most threes he hit of

682
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: the season, No? Thirty nine?

683
00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: Is that right?

684
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 7: Yes?

685
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: He just looked it up.

686
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just looked it up.

687
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: Steve Kerr had whatever, like five hundred.

688
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: Well, Larry Birds. Larry Bird said he never even practiced

689
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: three pointers. I never practiced. Now that's all they do.

690
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: But these guys would have I'm sure like dominated like

691
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 4: in the evolution of the game.

692
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: I would say, Kat, you know, I thought he was

693
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: self proclaimed the best shooting big men of all time.

694
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: And the problem is, I've I've heard about Dirk and

695
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: you're right about the percentages. I don't know. It's Kevin

696
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: Durant considered a big man. I don't know, no considered.

697
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good. That's he's He lies about his height

698
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 4: to sow that so he doesn't get considered a big man.

699
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 7: Walks around. Yeah, he says he's five to eleven. Now, uh,

700
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 7: I will I will give cat, I'll shoot, I'll shoe

701
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 7: cast and bail here. And that he's not the only

702
00:34:51,760 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 7: superstar player that behaves this way. And because Luka is notorious, Luca, Luca.

703
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: My lord, I don't understand these guys, do they not?

704
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: Do they not know? It's just so bizarre.

705
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: You know, you're on TV.

706
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I was, Yeah, they're on TV. When I

707
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: was at college at Montana State, I was the only

708
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: Doctor J fan. Everyone else was either a Celtic on

709
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: the basketball team Celtic or a Laker fan. This is

710
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: in the eighties, during the showtime Lakers and the lowly

711
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: bird Celtics, and I would do I always like the

712
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: different perspectives. I'd say to the guys, so who's the

713
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: biggest whiner in the NBA? And the Celtics with fans

714
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: would are you kidding? Magic and Kareem? Are you kidding?

715
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: Magic and Kareem? And then the Laker fans are going

716
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: McHale and Danny Ainge are you kidding? So it is

717
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: perception is entertaining.

718
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 7: But uh, it was definitely McHale and Danny Ainge though, yeah,

719
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 7: yeah at that time.

720
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, uh no, I can't believe Luca. It's like,

721
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 2: does he not? What is there? Spoiled? Rotten?

722
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 4: Yeah?

723
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: You know, I think you catch an exciting guy coming

724
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: in and he still isn't gat to watch, But man.

725
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 7: He takes way more heat. He just he takes way

726
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 7: more heat than Luca does for the same behavior I was.

727
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: You know, and people you're right. Also, people don't like

728
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert for different reasons. He's French and they don't

729
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: like him.

730
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 4: Did you read the there's a big ESPN article about, uh,

731
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: some of the fracturing between him and Donovan Mitchell, and

732
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: it's really like the postgame interviews where he'll just like

733
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: he'll do these little digs that, uh, like, who does

734
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 4: the dis go there, Gobert does digs in post game Yeah,

735
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: he did.

736
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: During the playoffs this year, he basically said that Donovan

737
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: wasn't playing defense, which, by the way, he wasn't that wrong.

738
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't know his personality at all.

739
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: He did something funny in his press conference with the Wolves.

740
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: He was very low.

741
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, no.

742
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: With the Timberwolves when he when he went, yeah, that's funny. Yeah,

743
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: he said no. He said, uh, I'm just trying to

744
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: think if he if he did any digs he did,

745
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: because you just said he does digs. I didn't know

746
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: he did that. But he said no. You know, we

747
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: have a I'm excited to be here. And at some

748
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: point they asked about how it will work out and

749
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: he said, no, I'm sure. I think I'll compliment Cat

750
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: and he'll compliment me, and we have a great coach.

751
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: And he did it. He says, uh, he used to

752
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: always complain about my screens. Like he said that, like

753
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: he's a finch just sitting right next to him. But

754
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: it was really funny. He goes, but now we're on

755
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: the same team, like he was saying that he because

756
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: he's really he's supposed to be a good screener.

757
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 4: And I mean, yes he does, Yes, he does illegal

758
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: a lot of the time. It's very hard, but he's

759
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: a great.

760
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: Screener because what he does is he puts his arms

761
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: down so they're not out because a lot of times

762
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: you get called. So he puts them down and covers

763
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: his cronch area with his hands and he's just he's

764
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: so big. But anyway, it was a funny moment in

765
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: the press conference because they did. One of the reporters,

766
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: like a couple of minus later said what was wrong

767
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: with his screens and everyone and Finch goes, they look

768
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: like they hurt, but they were great.

769
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: Uh, Craig, you you mentioned Finch coining the term stray

770
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: voltage for Kat. Yeah, I had a question whether you

771
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: believe you coined this term. Moving over a little bit

772
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: more to your Hollywood career, the movie Old School, you say.

773
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: Good Talk, Good Talks?

774
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, was that was that the first occurrence? Did you

775
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: invent that or was that in the culture. It's the

776
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: first time I remember hearing it, and I and to me,

777
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: I said, this man is a legend.

778
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 4: Did you create a good talk?

779
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: Oh, good talk? Not guy code? Right?

780
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: Good talk? When?

781
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, guy code, I guess conceivably could have been

782
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 3: originated there as well.

783
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: I think guy code. I think they both originated in

784
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: that scene. And I can't remember. If I had lived

785
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: what I had lived, I'd have to ask Todd Phillips,

786
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: the director writer, what was there? Guy code was definitely

787
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: in the script. I know that good talk. I don't remember.

788
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: Talk felt like it could have come from you. Just

789
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 3: you finished, just destroying this guy in the bad.

790
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, good talk. Proud of you. I did. Proud of

791
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: you that was mine. Proud of you was mine. But yeah,

792
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: I can't remember. But it's people like it. I hear

793
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: it a lot.

794
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 5: Well, it infected the culture.

795
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: I mean it became you know, overused ultimately in comedies.

796
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

797
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: When I trace these things back to their influence and

798
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: say like, yeah, it worked so well here, no wonder

799
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: everyone stole it.

800
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually the night I was at the Prince,

801
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: I told him I didn't like the food, and we concluded,

802
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: and the guy goes good talk and then I left.

803
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: It was very bizarre, but it happens all the time.

804
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: That was a callback.

805
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 4: And I'm and I caught it.

806
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: Are there NBA players that you guys lose? Does anyone

807
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: here like Russell Westbrook or not? Nobody? He can't shoot.

808
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 2: He can't shoot.

809
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: I like I I I definitely did, and I'm it's

810
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: it's it's sad sort of where he's at. Did you

811
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 4: see the Jeremy Socan thing the other day?

812
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 6: No?

813
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 4: Uh, one of the like this young guy, young Polish

814
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: player was like streaming on Instagram and uh, they're doing

815
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: like this word association game or something or like it's

816
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: like taboo where like you have to say that, like

817
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 4: get him to guess the word without saying it. And

818
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 4: the guy he's playing with says, Westbrook gets a lot

819
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 4: of these, and so Can said bricks and it was

820
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: it was triple doubles and this is all like live forever.

821
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: This like so Can feels terrible. His dog is named

822
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: Russell Wow, oh my lord. In those like his MVP

823
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: year when there was like some controversy about like is

824
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 4: it you know, it's just an extremely high usage rate

825
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 4: like these are kind of fake numbers. His system is

826
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 4: set up for like him to get like the easy

827
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: rebounds and things like that. Yeah, I was totally on board.

828
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 4: It's like, you do it if it's that yeah.

829
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 3: They rebound, It's like it was. It was out of control,

830
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: and I got game. When I first started going to games,

831
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't. I didn't grow up attending a

832
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: lot of basketball games. And when I would go to

833
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: see the Thunder and watch him live, just rip down

834
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: the court like a demon, faster and end, and just

835
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: I was like, man, this is the most exciting athletic

836
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: person I have ever seen up close like this, and

837
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: I really loved watching him play. I agree like just

838
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: losing that step athletically has really taken so much of

839
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: the air out of his game.

840
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 8: And then his is to that has has made it

841
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 8: harder to joy. So it's a lot of system stuff too.

842
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 8: It's a lot of system stuff. I think he just

843
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 8: not He just did not fit with that system last year.

844
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 8: And I guarantee you like he take, they take a better,

845
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 8: they take a step this year. They're not gonna be

846
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 8: the same Lakers that they were last year. They will

847
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 8: be a playoff contender this year.

848
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 7: I don't know how high up they'll be because the

849
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 7: West is completely stacked, but the Lakers will be you know,

850
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 7: in the bottom five of the top ten for sure,

851
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 7: but like it. I don't believe I'm a big Russ fan.

852
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 7: Craig and I I go back to high school with me.

853
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 7: I played against him in high school, hated him then,

854
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 7: but Washington and UCLA and and have watched his career

855
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 7: the whole time and just sees see the hate that

856
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 7: he gets, like when I don't think it's deserving. And again,

857
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 7: just like Sean just said, the dude had a twenty

858
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 7: twenty and twenty game. That's not easy to do in

859
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 7: the National Basketball Associate right, So and the year of

860
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 7: triple doubles that he had, people were like, oh, he's

861
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 7: stat pat and he's doing is he's doing that? And

862
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 7: these people are sitting on their couch at home saying

863
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 7: it's crazy anything, Like you cannot like somebody in the league,

864
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 7: but to say that they are doing anything less than

865
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 7: being insanely talented at their job is crazy.

866
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: Well, it's similar to towns and that, like people focus so

867
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: much on what they don't like about.

868
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, they disrespect what they're doing.

869
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mey know, when I can weigh in on

870
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: why I don't like Russell Westbrook, I mean, please, right,

871
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: now go ahead. One of my favorite players aesthetically and

872
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade one of my absolute favorites.

873
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

874
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: I saw Mark Jackson on ABC a couple of years

875
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: ago when we're during the Dwayne was still playing, and

876
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: he said, you best two guard of all time, Michael

877
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: Jordan than Kobe. I think third is Dwayne Wade. So

878
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: I love Dwayne Wade. I like his economy of moves.

879
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: I like how athletic he is. I loathe Westbrook. He

880
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: can't shoot, but he does something that I find irritating

881
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: and Kobe. Kobe did this and I was not a

882
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: Kobe fan. God rest, his soul plays angry. I'm gonna,

883
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna go to the rim.

884
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna go to the rim. And I'm so fast.

885
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: But when you say fast with the ball, yeah, you

886
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: know Jordan would dribble up. He's not going full speed,

887
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 2: He's not out of control. He could go faster dribbling

888
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: the ball up. So can lebron Is as fast as

889
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 2: they get. I'm a huge Lebron fan.

890
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 7: Oh thank you.

891
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to transition to my Kobe Lebron thing in

892
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: a second. But Westbrook can't shoot. He plays angry. I

893
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: don't like his field for the game, and he just plays.

894
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: He's just like there's something you can't shoot, and he

895
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: shoots twenty eight percent on threes and whatever. I just

896
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 2: don't like his game and he gets angry and drives

897
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: to the rim, and he's very athletic. I get it,

898
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: but I just and I don't really care about those stats.

899
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 2: I know they're definite, fully impressive. I mean, I didn't watch.

900
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: This is where I say I don't watch as many

901
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: games as I used to, So I really didn't see

902
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: did John Damer replay and that there was gonna get traded?

903
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: And I looked at his stats and I'm like, holy buckets. Yeah,

904
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: nine and nine rebounds, eight assists? What twenty one? Whoa

905
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: this guy? They say he's not a great outside shooter.

906
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: He put up some stats because the Wolves almost we're

907
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 2: going to trade for him, but I'm glad we didn't,

908
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: but because we'd have to give up a lot. He's

909
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: better than Dangel. I mean, Dangelo is a whole nother story.

910
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: He's very erratic. But I didn't I don't like Russell

911
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: Westbrook as a player, and that's I've kind of said why,

912
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: I think he plays out of control with his crazy athleticism,

913
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: and he can't shoot, and he plays angry. Now that

914
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: transitions to I'm gonna say something. This is an insight

915
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: that I have. Lebron James is the second greatest player

916
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: of all time. I have a Martini. I might say

917
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: he's equal to Jordan, but you know, I don't know.

918
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: He's very very good. He passes very well. Don't like

919
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: his jump shot, you know, like Bronni his son has

920
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: better form. Okay, well, you know, tuck that elbow a

921
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: little more. He's unbelievable. Lebron James and I live in

922
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: LA and I always saw the flaws in Kobe's game.

923
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: His shot selection forty four, Lebron shooting fifty percent, Dowayne

924
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: Wade forty nine percent. And I thought Kobe just took awful,

925
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: awful shots, awful shots, and so I would go. I

926
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: was at the Musso and Frank and the Legendary Place,

927
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: and Sonny is the bartender. He's from New York. He's

928
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: actually a Knicks fan. And I said, hey, this is

929
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 2: what I don't do this anymore because this is before

930
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: Kobe passed. And I said, do you know you know basketball?

931
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: Do you know you know you know who's better between

932
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 2: Kobe and Lebron? Right? He was, he says Kobe Kobe,

933
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: I said, it's Lebron, and he took my martini away.

934
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: He took my martini away. So I don't do it

935
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: anymore because I understand they're obsessed with Kobe his competitive nature.

936
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 2: So this is kind of what it is. Somebody said,

937
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: you know who's a Kobe fan? He says, he actually

938
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: misses the percentage wise, Lebron hits more clutch shots than Kobe,

939
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: but Kobe, it's his body language. So let's say Kobe.

940
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: Let's say Lebron misses a game winner and he you know,

941
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: he's in ConTroll, he walks off the court, Okay, that's okay, whatever,

942
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: And then Kobe misses it and he's like, I'm gonna ah,

943
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: walks off the court like oh, and everyone's like, we

944
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: look at him. He's a competitor, he's angry, he wants

945
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: to make He's gonna make it next time, like it's

946
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: his body language. Of like when they double teamed him

947
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: in the Game seven against the Celtics and he goes

948
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: six for twenty four because he's gonna shoot. I'm not

949
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: gonna stop shooting. He's so competitive and it's just like,

950
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, if you discipline a little bit now, Lebron,

951
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, do you Guys like.

952
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: Lebron all time?

953
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 4: We all love him, but Carl is a huge, huge.

954
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 7: He's my guy. He got he got drafted when I

955
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 7: was in eighth grade, and I immediately I'm as you

956
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 7: can see, I'm not a Laker fan, but I did

957
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 7: grow up here in Los Angeles and Lebron was my

958
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 7: guy when the Clippers were not in the playoffs. So

959
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 7: you do know.

960
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: You it's illegal. I believe it's illegal. If the law

961
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: has passed, you can't be a Lebron fan. Ana Patrick Beverly.

962
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 7: Fan, You absolutely can't me to jail. Take me to jail, Craig,

963
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 7: I mean called the constable because that's jail time. That's

964
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 7: jail time. Put me, put me away.

965
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: Who's your Who's your third favorite player, Lance Stevenson.

966
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 7: No, No, he's not. Uh my personal My personal favorite

967
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 7: players are like Lebron, Shack, Russ uh PG and.

968
00:48:54,520 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: Right like, I wasn't a huge Shack fan because of

969
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: the offensive fouls, but that's just me.

970
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 7: I wanted to Chris Dudley, guy uh.

971
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: Our our. No, here's here's my thing on shack And

972
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: I had I actually had David Stern on the show

973
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: years ago and I asked about the shack thing and

974
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: he gave the answer, No, it's hard. He's hard to referee. Well,

975
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: he initiates the contact. That's why you have to foul

976
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: him hard to send him the line like you're just

977
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: gonna let him go. But as a as a center,

978
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: you're allowed to go over someone with a skyhook. You're

979
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: allowed to spin and go around them or up and

980
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 2: under like McHale. You can't go through my chest or

981
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 2: to Kenbe Matumbo's jaw. So uh. But Shaq is obviously

982
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: very talented and he and he was capable of scoring

983
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 2: without going through people's chest. He had a great spin move, yes,

984
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 2: and he could he could back down and shoot a

985
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: little push shot off the glass. But when he went

986
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: through people it bothered me.

987
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 7: Anyway, here's my thing about that, Craig as I also

988
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 7: grew up playing big me and and people will hit

989
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 7: you and because of your size, the ref won't call it,

990
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 7: and so you have to figure out a way to

991
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 7: stop them from hitting you. And if you're gonna hit me,

992
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna hit you.

993
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: Back, Okay, So I I see it slightly differently. I've

994
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: wanted to have this conversation with Jeff Van Gunny, who

995
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: I interviewed once, but he was he was doing a

996
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: game with the when his brother was coaching, Stan was

997
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: coaching the Orlando Magic and Dwight Howard and Dwight Howard

998
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: in transition, they're trying to rim run and get down

999
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 2: underneath the basket, and you're supposed to as a defender

1000
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: meet him at the free throw line and keep your

1001
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: arms up and not let him. You get position, and

1002
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: Jeff defended Dwight Howard said, you know, you know the

1003
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: beating these guys take. You know the beating they take,

1004
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: And I want to say they're initiating the contact. Man.

1005
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan didn't get hit, did I just yell? They know?

1006
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: But Tim Duncan didn't get abused. I mean, we can't

1007
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: always say Tim Duncan because he's the greatest, he's unbelievable.

1008
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: I don't know what Carl thanks to Tim Duncan, but

1009
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: he wasn't hacked to death. He had the fundamentals. Dwight

1010
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: Howard can't shoot you on three feet, so so he

1011
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: has to dunk all the time. Shaq can't shoot a

1012
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: seven foot or a seven eight foot shot. But they're

1013
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: initiating the contact and the defender either lets him go

1014
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: and dunk, or lets him go and he dunks, lets

1015
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: him go and dunks, or he shoots. Are you know

1016
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: seven the line to shoot a free throw? But I

1017
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: understand it definitely hurts when you clobber shack, but Shaq

1018
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: is initiating the contact.

1019
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 7: In my opinion, Okay, Tim Duncan is the number one

1020
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 7: powerful of all time. That's what I think of Tim Duncan.

1021
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 7: I like, I wouldn't say otherwise I'm not crazy. People

1022
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 7: want to say that I'm crazy. I'm not crazy.

1023
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: I haven't. Does he bother you because he's so calm

1024
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: and low key?

1025
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 7: No, the Spurs were boring in those days.

1026
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: But wait a second, Wait a second, but whether Spurs

1027
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: were not born, they passed the ball when they had

1028
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: Genobi and they played against they beat they beat the heat,

1029
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 2: remember when they blew it. This is where I would

1030
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 2: love to ask Papa, why did you take Duncan off

1031
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: the floor when ray Allen hit that Three's? His reasoning

1032
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 2: is what we don't have him guard to three point line.

1033
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: Well you didn't, he would have got the rebound, and

1034
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: you know whatever. Then they win the next year and

1035
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: the passing that Spurs team had, the ball movement in

1036
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 2: the passing is a thing of beauty. They were fun

1037
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: to watch, just like the Sacramento Kings were fun to watch.

1038
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 7: Sacramento Kings in the in that era with Chris Webber

1039
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 7: got cheated by the Lakers in the West Coast. Thank you,

1040
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 7: Oh my lord, I'm not crazy, Craig. However, you know,

1041
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 7: do you.

1042
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 2: Know what David Stern said? And I actually talked to him.

1043
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: They wanted me to do NBA TV, and I had

1044
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: a conversation with him, and I was just like I

1045
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: did never It was really hard to recover from that.

1046
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: That That's Kings Lakers series. I just thought it was

1047
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: just ridiculous.

1048
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 7: But oh yeah, but we go Aheadry he.

1049
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: Said, no. The famous quote he said to me, he goes.

1050
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: I took a lot of heat for this, you know,

1051
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 2: and this was way before the donahey the referee thing.

1052
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: He says. They a reporter once asked him, do you

1053
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: want the Lakers in the finals, don't you? You you know,

1054
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: business wise, that's that's good for the league to have

1055
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: the you know, you make money. You want the Lakers

1056
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: in the finals, and he said, I want the Lakers

1057
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: versus the Lakers in the finals.

1058
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Craig. I want to ask on your new show

1059
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 4: The Life Forageous.

1060
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: The Life Gorgeous YouTube.

1061
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 4: You ask people their top five movies in every episode?

1062
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 4: Do you have a top five basketball movies lists just

1063
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 4: off the top of your head?

1064
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 2: Good question, Good question, I'm allowed one good question on broadcast.

1065
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm not a big sports movie but I do have

1066
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: a few I've seen. I've seen a lot of them.

1067
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: And then don't get mad when I haven't seen the

1068
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: ones you talk about. Okay, Uh, I would say I

1069
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: like Hoosiers with Gene Hackman. I'm a I like Hoosiers.

1070
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: Here's one that's kind of comical, but it's it's so

1071
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: funny because Spike Lee calls it the worst basketball movie

1072
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: ever made one on one with Robbie Benson. Uh, And

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00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: that was kind of a it was you guys probably

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00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: never saw it, right, Yeah, it's from the seventies. Seals

1075
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 2: and Croft did the Seals and Crofts Seals and Croft

1076
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: did the soundtrack. A net o'tool was in it, but

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00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: that was It was kind of an innocent basketball movie,

1078
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: but it was kind of fun. Let's see, I saw

1079
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: blue Chips. What am I missing that?

1080
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 5: There was a well, h you like fish that Save Pittsburgh.

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00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: I was gonna. I actually glad you brought that up.

1082
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: Awful And I was a Doctor J fan, and that's

1083
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: what I would say. I'd say to Spike Lee. That's

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00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: infinitely worse than One on one. But one on one

1085
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: was about you know, Robbie Benson. It wasn't it wasn't gritty.

1086
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: It was you know, suburban guys playing ball. So it

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00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: was a little different.

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00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: But did you see Hustle the new one?

1089
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 2: Not yet? Not yet? I heard it.

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00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: It's pretty fun.

1091
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard it as you.

1092
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 3: The first thing you mentioned was was Hoosiah and you

1093
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: said you're a big Gene Hackman fan. Now I watch

1094
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: an older Gene Hackman movie I'd never seen before, and

1095
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: I wonder if you've seen it.

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00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 4: It was called Night Moves.

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00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 2: I think I started it.

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00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 4: I just watched it last weird.

1099
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's supposed to people like it, right.

1100
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 4: It's He's a private eye. Yeah, it was a strange one.

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00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I enjoyed it.

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00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know in those old movies, you get

1103
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 3: these snippets of dialogue that just they wouldn't say it today.

1104
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: And and I know you don't like cursing. I know

1105
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: you don't like the F words, so you don't have

1106
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 3: to listen to this part. But a guy in the

1107
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: show was describing another gentleman who was extremely horny, and

1108
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 3: he said that boy had fuck a woodpile of chance,

1109
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 3: there's a snake in it. That's funny though, I thought

1110
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 3: he's hoping there's a snake in there. It's one step

1111
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: beyond anything that moves, isn't it right. It's things that

1112
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: don't move that might have had something with me.

1113
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

1114
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 3: I thought that was a good line, and I thought

1115
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 3: maybe that should be brought back at some point.

1116
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: Did you did you guys say you saw the offer

1117
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 2: the making of the gun?

1118
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 5: I watched the offer, Yeah, I saw. I watched all

1119
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 5: the episodes.

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Speaker 2: So there's an F word. I won't use it, but

1121
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: one of my favorite lines. But you have to know

1122
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: the background. But basically it was when Robert Evans was

1123
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: married to Ali McGraw and they're shooting Ali is down

1124
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: in Texas shooting the Getaway with Steve McQueen, and she

1125
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: ended up leaving Robert Evans for Steve McQueen. But Robert

1126
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: Evans goes down there and knocks on the door. It's

1127
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: a motel room, and she won't open it all the

1128
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: way is Queen in there? Are you fing the Blob?

1129
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 2: And it was funny because when my brother and I

1130
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: growing up, we my brother was really into science fiction

1131
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: and for some reason, in the Blob, this movie the Blob,

1132
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: Steve McQueen was starting out and he was in the Blob,

1133
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: which you know, and then he then he obviously blew

1134
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: up and became huge, and then Robert Evans in that

1135
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: moment and this was written for this for the series,

1136
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: obviously very colorful. They're dismissing Robert Evans is not the

1137
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: Great Escape or Bullet. But as as the Blob, you.

1138
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: Know, that's the reason.

1139
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: That's the other reason it didn't work. He was in

1140
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: the Blob, all right. It didn't work on a couple levels.

1141
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: But I love the reference to the Blob.

1142
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: It's like if she was with Schwarzenegger and you went,

1143
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 3: are you having sex with Predator? It's like, well, no,

1144
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: he killed it's his greatest enemy, Craig. You know, we

1145
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: do have to wrap up soon. We do a thing

1146
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: on the show, and I'll ask Kevin to check back

1147
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: in if he's ready. Occasionally will write a little bit

1148
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: of a parody song, will record it over a karaoke track,

1149
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: maybe about something that's happening in the league or whatever.

1150
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: But I really rushed this morning to splash together something

1151
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 3: to kind of plug your podcast. It's a bit of

1152
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: a tribute to your and Kevin. Do you have that

1153
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: ready for us? Yes, okay, so maybe we could play

1154
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: that and that'll that'll take us out and you could

1155
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 3: tell me. I know my vocals aren't perfect.

1156
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm glad I don't have to sing because I don't sing,

1157
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: but I love music.

1158
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: It's yeah, so this and hopefully it's a song you enjoy.

1159
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: And there was an end to give it a slight

1160
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 3: moment of context. I know Goldie and Alex Sultan had

1161
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: asked you about you checking yourself in the mirror during

1162
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: commercial breaks on your late night show, and you explained

1163
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: that you have very fine hair flyaway. Yeah, and so

1164
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 3: in the chorus you might see a little bit of

1165
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 3: a reference to that.

1166
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: That's beautiful you put some time into this, Brandy, mm hmm. Kelby,

1167
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: you're a fine man. I'd all right.

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00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 5: The lyrics, sure, well, there's a post from the Land.

1169
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 6: Of Lakes and he's gone lots of Frish jokes and takes.

1170
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 6: He helps folks to laugh their cares away. He's welcome

1171
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 6: in their homes and there's a show he's about to release,

1172
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 6: and we think you will be very pleased when you

1173
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 6: hear the life gorgeous Soon. He drinks fine whiskey and wine.

1174
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: And people say, kill me. You've got fine hair.

1175
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 5: Put you style it to a tea.

1176
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're very funny to me.

1177
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 4: That's all we got.

1178
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: Keep it going, man.

1179
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 5: Hey, you know, maybe we'll do a full version for

1180
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 5: the album.

1181
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: That was great and your voice is Yeah, it kind

1182
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: of the fact that it's not perfect admits it's more heartfelt.

1183
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: It's a little more homemade, a little di water. Yet

1184
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not showing off with like I'm singer.

1185
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 3: It's just like I'm passionate about this topic and I

1186
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: don't mind if I'm a little embarrassed when I release it.

1187
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: A fan boy, Yeah, I'm fan.

1188
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 2: That was fun, guys, Thank you so much.

1189
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 3: Creg Thank you Craig, we really appreciate you doing the show,

1190
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: and happy two hundred to us the flagrant once

1191
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: That's