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That's one hundred percent postathon dot com. 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: You would not believe this would happen in any other era, 42 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: but the George Gascon era. He's gotta go. He is 43 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: secretly trying I'm voting now in the March Prime. Oh 44 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: my god, He's secretly trying to release Jesse Gonzalez. May 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: twenty ninth, nineteen seventy nine, Jesse Gonzales murdered an La 46 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: County Deputy sheriff named Jack Williams. And it's been now 47 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: forty four years and George Gascon is trying to get 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: him released. Gonzales was a drug dealer, the leader of 49 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: the Puente Street gang executed Deputy Williams. He was a 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: Mexican Mafia shot caller. He was at Gonzales's house to 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: serve a search warrant, saw the cops coming and Gonzales 52 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: shot Williams in the chest with a shotgun and Gonzales 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: in turn shot by the deputies, and as he was 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: being taken away by a gurney, he raised his left 55 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: fist and started yelling epithets at the police. 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: He is still a Mexican mafia's shot caller, and that 57 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: is in case you don't know. They order hits, murders, 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 2: and direct gang activities from inside the prison. Now back 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, Gascone decided that he wanted to 60 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: negotiate a lesser sentence life without the possibility of parole, 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: so he talked to the family of Deputy Williams and 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: tried to talk to them into agreeing to re sentence 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: and defendant to fifteen years to life, making him eligible 64 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: for parole. 65 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: The family did not agree. Let's bring on Kathleen Katie 66 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: now one of. 67 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: Several former prosecutors who are providing pro bono assistance to 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: crime victims in response to George Gascone's policies. We've talked 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: to were numerous times before over these horrible three years 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: of George Gascone. Welcome back to the show. 71 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I really appreciate you having me 72 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: on and highlighting this incredible injustice and also continued lack 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: of transparency on behalf of George Gascon and those he's 74 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: chosen to run the office. So thank you for this opportunity. 75 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Why do you characterize this as secret. 76 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: Well, it's because of the way that he's gone about this. 77 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: So the District Attorney's office, of course, their mission is 78 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: always to seek justice, and in certain cases, for instance, 79 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: if someone is exonerated, that would be justice would be 80 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: to have the case dismissed against that person. But in 81 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: other situations like this one, there is no question but 82 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: that this defendant is the one who shot and killed 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: Deputy Williams. So the other issues that have been going 84 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: on have to deal with whether or not essentially there's 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: enough evidence to show that, and the DA's office, for 86 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: reasons that are completely unknown, has decided that they want 87 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: to essentially apparently let him out of prison. Now why 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: they would want to let a Mexican mafia shot collar 89 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: out of prison is beyond my comprehension. But the way 90 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: that they've chosen to go about this is first of 91 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: all by meeting with the family and essentially trying to 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: talk them into agreeing to a lesser sentence, which would 93 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: have resulted in Gonzales being released. The family, of course 94 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: was not willing to do that, but I'm quite sure 95 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: that had the family been willing to, the DA's office 96 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 3: would have jumped at that chance, and then of course 97 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: hid behind the family and taken cover behind the family, 98 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: saying well, what was the family who wanted that? 99 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: So you can do it anyway, right, I mean, the 100 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: family's opinion has nothing to do with a legal decision 101 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: like this. 102 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: Well, the family's opinion it might have some bearing on 103 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: what the DA's office would do, but the DA's office 104 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: is bound to always do the right thing and to 105 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: seek Justice. Unfortunately, the people that he has chosen to 106 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: run the office at this time do not follow those 107 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: same guidelines, And in fact, in this particular case, what's 108 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: so horrific is that the prosecutor who is representing the 109 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: people has in fact filed papers with the judge that 110 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: are misleading, states that certain evidence doesn't actually exist, when 111 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: in fact it does exist. And we have a transcript 112 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: of the trial testimony where the investigating officer spoke to 113 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: the defendant right after the crime, and the defendant admitted 114 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: that he saw that he'd been outside watering, he saw 115 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: the police coming, he dropped the hose, ran inside. 116 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: And that's of course, when are you saying that the 117 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: prosecutor working for guests going is lying to the judge 118 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 1: in writing well misleading? Is this one of these public 119 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: defenders he put in there? 120 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: Is it? 121 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: Sheilin Joseph? Is that the woman? 122 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: Yes? It is? 123 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 5: Yes? 124 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: All right, So she's misleading a judge. I mean, isn't 125 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: that a crime? Isn't or at least a violation that 126 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: would get her kicked out? 127 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: Well, if you had an ethical da who cared about 128 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: such things, yes she would think it would. But unfortunately 129 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: that's not who mister Gascon is he likes to hide 130 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: behind saying that he's an ethical prosecutor who is trying 131 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 3: to see justice. But when you look at individual facts, 132 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: when you look at his policies, when you look at 133 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: the way that he treats his staff, when you look 134 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: at the way that he handles cases, that's not this 135 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: is well. 136 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: This is what's crazy. I mean, everybody's used to defense 137 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: attorneys coming up with crackpot theories right to get their 138 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: client off. But here you have a prosecutor and guess 139 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: Godin's office, you know, creating a mess. And if she's 140 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: supposed to represent the people, well, how do you fight that? 141 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Who do we go to when the prosecutor and the 142 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: DA fails us. 143 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: Well the other thing about Gascon's office is that the 144 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: only thing that he seems to ever respond to is 145 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: negative press and or you know, questions from the public. 146 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: And so if your listeners are as offended by this 147 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: as certainly Jack William's family is, I would encourage them 148 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: to call the DA's office and say, don't do this, 149 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: make sure you defend the conviction and keep this very 150 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: dangerous cop killer in prison. So that's one thing, because 151 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: you know, prosecutors should not be responding only to public outcry. 152 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: But unfortunately that's the way Gascon works. So since that's 153 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: the way he works, that's what we can do. And 154 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: then of course we can go to the ballot box, 155 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: as you said earlier, we can make sure that he 156 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: has voted out. 157 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: So jess Gonzalez, nobody's trying to make the claim that 158 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: he's somehow reformed and found God and all that nonsense. No, 159 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: he supposedly still is a shot call What is he doing? 160 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he's doing this currently. 161 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: Well, that's the information that we have. There was a 162 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: trial last year in Compton and his name came up 163 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: essentially with being a Mexican mafia shot caller. And so 164 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: you know, you can google Mexican mafia organization and there's 165 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: a chart that was created by law enforcement and Wright 166 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: smack dab in the middle of that chart is Jesse Denballas. 167 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: How does he call the shots from inside prison? I 168 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: assume he's in a maximum security prison, correct, correct? All? Right, 169 00:08:59,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: then how does he do that? 170 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: Well, that's how that gang works. And there was a 171 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 3: there was an article in the paper last year saying 172 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: that they do it by smuggling phones in. They do 173 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: it by, you know, essentially exerting pressure. And while you 174 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: would think that that's not the way an organization would operate, 175 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: that is the way. 176 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: That and the way the gang members on the street 177 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: listen to him, even though he supposedly locked up until 178 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: he dies. He makes a call and they answer and 179 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: they say, sure, whatever you want, correct. 180 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: Wow, And that's the danger and uh so. 181 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: And guess Going doesn't care. Gas Going doesn't care about that. 182 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: Why would he pick this guy to release? 183 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: I have no idea. You would have to ask him 184 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: that question. 185 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: The of the worst, a cop killer and still a 186 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: shot caller for the Mexican mafia. 187 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: Oh, this has to be publicized. This is unbelievable. And 188 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: this woman that we talked about this she was a 189 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: public defender that got moved over to the DA's office, right. 190 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 3: Correct, she was, so since being since being in the office, 191 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: she has been going around county wide with all of 192 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: these very very very serious cases and she's taken them 193 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: all on and is handling them essentially herself, going around 194 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: the county and either changing the sentence, which is what's 195 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: been happening in the other cases that I've been representing 196 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: victims on but you know, in this particular case, given 197 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 3: what the defendant's claim is, the result is much more 198 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: severe because if she essentially wins, she combined with the 199 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: defense wins and what they're trying to do, Gonzalez's conviction 200 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: would be reversed and it's likely that he would be 201 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: released into our community, and so that of course would 202 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: be horrible for our community. But on behalf of jacqu 203 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: William's daughters who want to make sure that justice continues 204 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: to be served and that the man who executed their father, 205 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: knowing that he was a police officer at the you know, 206 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: and engaged in the performance of his duty, so sort 207 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: of the search warrant because Jesse Gonzalez was a drug dealer, 208 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: they want to make sure that he that this defendant 209 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: remains in custody and the justice sis or for their dad. So, 210 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: you know, this is just another glaring example of how 211 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: Gascon tries to hide things, how he is not forthcoming, 212 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: and you know, unfortunately it is negatively affecting all of 213 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: our community, but specifically Jack William's family in this particular case. 214 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: All right, Kathleen, it's always a pleasure to talk to you. 215 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for your hard work. 216 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: If you can ever arrange for Jack Williams's daughters to 217 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: come on our show, we'd be glad to speak to 218 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: them because they want this guy to stay in prison. 219 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, just to range that with our producer Ray. 220 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. 221 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: And keep us updated. 222 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 223 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: All right, that's Kathleen Katie, one of several former prosecutors. 224 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: We're providing pro bono assistance to crime victims because of 225 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: George Gascone's policies for these long, horrible three years in 226 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: La County. And this is about a cop killer and 227 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: a current Mexican mafia shot caller that Gascon has decided 228 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: should be released. His name is Jesse Gonzalez and at 229 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: the time he murdered La County Deputy Sheriff Jack Williams, 230 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: he had two daughters then eleven and twelve years old, 231 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: and this is nineteen seventy nine, so obviously they're grown 232 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: and they missed their dad and they do not want 233 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: this man released. More coming up, Johnny Ken kf I 234 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: AM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 235 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 236 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 237 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: Just another ring alert. Sorry, looks like something's going on 238 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: at a target near my house that people are concerned about. 239 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: Could it be a big shoplifting ring? I don't know, 240 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: smash and grab. There's helicopter's police everywhere around the target. 241 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: What's going on? 242 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: Does anyone know? 243 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: Does anyone know? 244 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm justper maybe it's a little high retirement. I'll just 245 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: ask questions like that in the neighborhood. Well, that's what 246 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: I see on the neighborhood app that I am son? 247 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: Is that no next stoor app? Next door appy? Is 248 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: that that helicopter shows up? Or there's some kind of 249 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: police commotion and there's like thirty people and it's all 250 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: the same people. Well, what's going on? Do you know anything? 251 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: And then it devolves into get a police scanner and 252 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: it devolves into some insane political argument. Everything always leads 253 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: back to the same Biden sucks. This is how cobody homeless. 254 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: There's some STIGs. This is why I had a negative 255 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: impression of retirement, because I looked at these people all 256 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: day and it's like, I don't think I want to 257 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: spend my day arguing on the next door app. 258 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: All they do. 259 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: We were just talking about the La County District Attorney 260 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: George Gascon and his latest move to free a cop 261 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: killer and currently a Mexican mafia shot caller. This is unreal. 262 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: We have another story, probably not as heinous as this one, 263 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: but also kind of weird. They arrested a man on 264 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: suspicion of murder. Human remains were discovered in concrete near 265 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: a home in North Hills, but the La County DA's 266 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: office wouldn't file a criminal charge and they freed the guy. 267 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: They later arrested him. 268 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: Russell Robinson was first booked by LAPD detectives following the 269 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: discovery of the remains of a thirty five year old 270 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: man from Guatemala that were. 271 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: Concealed in the construction of an outbuilding in the backyard 272 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: of a home. This is near Roscoe Boulevard and Woodley Avenue, 273 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: so they must have gotten a tip because how else 274 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: would they know to look in the actual construction materials 275 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: of the outbuilding materials and construction. The records show that 276 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: apparently they had to release Robinson at two forty Tuesday. 277 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: The reason was court order for release, no criminal charge filed. 278 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: Following the arrest, The La County DA's office confirmed the 279 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: case was declined on Monday, referred back to LAPD for 280 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: additional investigation. The charging deputy got additional information late last night, 281 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: and now the man has been charged with one count 282 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: of murder and one kind of dissuading a witness. 283 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: I bring this up because waiting a witness, he could have. 284 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: Fled, He could have fled the country, He could have disappeared, 285 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: knowing all they're on to me. Now, Oh thank god 286 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: I got released because the dope be Gascon's office. What 287 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: do you mean murder? Bring us more proof? 288 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: What do you have? 289 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: What bones lod you guys heading the concrete block? Bring 290 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: it to me. 291 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: I want to see. I want to make sure this 292 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: is a real story. I don't trust you, you know, 293 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't even think they debate this stuff anymore. In 294 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: Gascone's office, they simply don't open the folders or they 295 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: don't access the information online anymore. There's fourteen thousand cases unprosecuted. 296 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: It means they don't even turn on their their computer 297 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: because they do not believe in incarceration. It's not simple, 298 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: but I mean it's like a brand to do that. 299 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: You have to take all of these avenues. You have 300 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: to release the people that are in prison. You have 301 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: to work on keeping them. And like you said, a 302 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: pile of fourteen thousand cases is one way to make 303 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: sure it's slow. Go to anybody going to jail. Wow, 304 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: this is so bad. 305 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: This is how you carry out that agenda. This is 306 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: how you do it. You know, we got any higher 307 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: public defenders as your DA's, your deputy das. We got 308 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: like a little over three months and then we could 309 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: have gascon ousted ousted. 310 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: We love it, all right, We got more coming up. Oh, 311 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: I know John's gonna be excited by this story. The 312 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: latest climate conference is about to begin in Dubai. Wait, 313 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: do you hear how many people are flying there? And 314 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: then we'll talk about California sending a delegation to show 315 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: the world that we are one of the leaders in 316 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: climate change prevention. 317 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: And they're flying too. I guess everybody's flying. Dubai's pretty far. 318 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: All right, it's coming up. 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Well, it's 336 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: time for the twenty twenty three United Nations Climate Change 337 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: Conference known as COP twenty eight, and it's going to 338 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: be held in the United Arab Emirates. 339 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: Okay, this is so funny. This is the world's largest 340 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: collection of hypocrites because they're virtually all flying in a 341 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: lot of them long long distances, and they're going to 342 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: be hosted by a nation that makes nearly all its 343 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: money from selling oil. 344 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: How does that work? 345 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: Just Topai, This is another big racket. They're going there 346 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: for the booze and the food and the hookers. More 347 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: than seventy thousand people will arrive, mostly by private and 348 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: commercial jets. 349 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: Private jet. It begins tomorrow in Dubai. Private jets. 350 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: Well, led you know who's leading our delegation, John Kerry. 351 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: There you go. He's the biggest pomp food of the ball. 352 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: Biden is not going, but he's sending John Kerry his 353 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: climate envoy. 354 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: They are blowing enormous amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. 355 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: Imagine seventy thousand people on thousands of planes. 356 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, when he traveled on a private jet 357 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: to Iceland, he get a Climate Change award. Carry was 358 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: asked why he chose to fly private. He responded by saying, 359 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: it's the only choice for someone like me, if you 360 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: offset your carbon. It's the only choice for somebody like 361 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 2: me who's traveling the world to win this battle, if 362 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: you offset your carbon. Yeah, that's still around. That's fake. 363 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: That's a scam. 364 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know, we've been hearing this for twenty 365 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: years now. Meanwhile, California is sending a delegation. Of course, 366 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: they are to show the world that we are a 367 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: leader on the climate change front. Right, our atmosphere is 368 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: cooler than everybody else's. Well, no, remember the fires, wipe 369 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: that out. We did that story. Remember the fires twenty nineteen, 370 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Apparently they reversed a lot of our air. 371 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: Change from decarbonization to electric cars. California hopes to showcase 372 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: its climate leadership, says the story in the El Segundo 373 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: Times today by Hayley Smith. California is expected to play 374 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 2: a sizable role in the proceedings in Dubai. Representatives from 375 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: Newsom's administration will attend and speak on our progress towards 376 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: clean energy goals. 377 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: See what the air distance is from Sacramento to Dubai. No, 378 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: Wade Crowfoot, California's Natural Resources secretary, is very excited about this. 379 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Wade to make the. 380 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's native American. 381 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: I think eight thousand and twenty seven miles eight and 382 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: twenty seven miles times too, because unfortunately they're coming back. Oh, 383 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: you're right. 384 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: The conference is being chaired by Sultan Ahmad al Jabbar, 385 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: chief executive of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company, one 386 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: of the largest oil companies in the world. How Does 387 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: that make sense? 388 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't. They don't care. 389 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: Isn't it one of the sinners that they have to challenge. 390 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: It's that they're going there to be hosted by him. 391 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: This makes no sense. So they can drink yet there's 392 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: probably not a lot of hookers though in Dubai. That's 393 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: probably so well. And remember I don't think you can drink, right. 394 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: Isn't that they have one of these guys. Did we 395 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: find that out with the World Cup that they had 396 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: to well that was in Qatar, right, These guys are 397 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: are going to have a good time. They're not going 398 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: to be going to the local mosque to pray. 399 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: The Paris Agreement seeks to limit global warming to one 400 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: point five degrees celsius above pre industrial levels and no 401 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 2: higher than two degrees benchmark that was passed for the 402 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: first time this month. There you go, John, they made 403 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: some inroads there. But California officials eym fact that the 404 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: states can get work done in Dubai. As one of 405 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: the world's largest economies. California is going to reach carbon 406 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: neutrality by the year twenty forty five. 407 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, they're going to have a document. The UN's 408 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: Food and Agriculture organization. They're going to deliver an edict, 409 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: an edict that's an order telling Western countries to save 410 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: the planet, they have to stop eating meat and vegan alternatives. Yeah, 411 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: it's time for Deborah Mark to take over the world. 412 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: Avocados for everyone's un ween. He's are gonna try to 413 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: force veganism on people. Yeah, particularly Western nations. They are 414 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: concerned with the Western nation meat consumption. Wealthy nations over 415 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: consume meat, and we should limit our intake. That's you 416 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: steak fase, Burger boy, this is burger boy, right, this 417 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: is the you know, I'm ready to join the black 418 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: helicopter crowd. We got the un here, we got some 419 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: authoritarian phony commission and they're going to be ordering Western 420 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: countries to eat vagan. It's not so bad now. 421 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: On the same subject, the Democratic governor of Connecticut has 422 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: withdrawn his plan to mandate future EV purchases. Not California, 423 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: as we know, it was an ounce a couple of 424 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: years ago. Buy Newsom the year twenty thirty five, you 425 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: cannot buy a new car in the state of California 426 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: that has any fossil fuel requirements. They were gonna do 427 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: this in Connecticut, but apparently the governor there, Ned Lamont, 428 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: has backed down. How about that he. 429 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: Got bipartisan pushback from lawmakers because nobody wants these cars 430 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: in fact, oh yeah, that other story about the dealer. 431 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: Listen to this. A coalition of more than three thousand 432 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: auto dealers is sending an open letter to Biden calling 433 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: on him to slow down this electric vehicle push. Dealers 434 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: in fifty states and covers every major car brand, because 435 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: the cars are piling up on the dealer lots by 436 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: the thousands all across the country. In fact, some dealers 437 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: are no longer accepting any more shipments. They can't move them, 438 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: they can't sell them. Now and under under the corner 439 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: of the White House, two thirds of new sedan crossover 440 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: and SUVs and light truck purchases are supposed to be 441 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: electric by twenty thirty two. 442 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 443 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: And the dealers are saying this is not happening because 444 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: the electric vehicles are way too expensive, their range is 445 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: way too short, electrical charging stations are sparse, and when 446 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: you get there, they're either occupied or they're broken, like 447 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: the hall system stinks. So the mandates have have got 448 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: to go here it's not working, and and now and 449 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: now the Connecticut governor, a Democrat is a grade. 450 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's backed off from their requirements. So again, cocky 451 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: people like Newsom claim the whole world is copy in California. 452 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: It's not happening. And they're going to try to make 453 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: that case in Dubai that we're the leader, and. 454 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: They Instead, he goes to China and signs what one 455 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: of those called memorandums of understanding, the moves worthless moves. 456 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, with Chinese people probably laugh behind his back that 457 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: idiots as they almost be tripped over kids playing basketball, 458 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: right as they open up another twelve coal coal fire 459 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: power plans. 460 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: Let them have this piece of paper home. 461 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: What what clowns? The whole world is run by cl 462 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be right back. Johnny Ken k if 463 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: I AM six forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 464 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 465 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 5: I AM. 466 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: Sixty Today's special John and Ken clip to commemorate your departure, 467 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: we go to two thousand and three in front of 468 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: Scott Peterson's. 469 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 4: House, impression that he must have known Lacey wasn't coming back. 470 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: Okay, nobody believes you, nobody. 471 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 4: The public outrage was growing, and if it had a voice, 472 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: it might have been this radio shock job. 473 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 5: I'm a reporter from. 474 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco and it's bad journalist. I'm a talk show host. 475 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: It's not a pumpish journalist. Besides, did you get the 476 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: truth out. 477 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: Of him yet? 478 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: Sorry, this has been bad journalism. 479 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: If we apologize, Scott were asking quint of questions about 480 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: all the unhurts you've. 481 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 2: Told bad crap with that ABC TV reporter from the 482 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: Bay Area. I remembered her name up until a few 483 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: years ago because it came up that she's still working 484 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: in the business, but I forget her name. That was 485 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: a clip from the A and He's not bad journalism, 486 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: which actually said bad crap. I think off the air 487 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: with walking away bad crap. 488 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: That's my just personal favorite moment radio shock jock. That 489 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: guy's name is what is his name? Bill Curtis? Bill 490 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: Curtis the voice guys from news. He was a big 491 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: news anchor. Especially God, they're also full of themselves news journalists. 492 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: We were talking about all these people traveling to Dubai 493 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: for the latest climate conference, and you've probably been hearing 494 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: the story that we had the first commercial airliner to 495 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: cross the Atlantic on animal fat. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly they're. 496 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: Calling it jet zero. 497 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 2: Largely the the aviation fuel was made up of tallow 498 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: and other waiste fats. Tallow, tallow, and if you look 499 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: up tallow, here's a good one. It's a rendered form 500 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: of beef or mutton suet s u et, primarily made 501 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: of triglycerides. 502 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: Oh that sounds healthy. Actually it says it is is it? 503 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: As mentioned above, tallow provides both saturated and mono saturated fats. 504 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: It's made of about forty to fifty percent mono unsaturated fats, 505 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 2: which you're considered one of the most heart. 506 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: Healthy fats in our diets. Well, there you go. 507 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: It's the same type of thought found in olive oil. 508 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: And people always are touting olive oil. 509 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: Get me, get me a bowl of tallow, because I yes, 510 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: says here is tallow just lard. Because I thought that 511 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: was lard. When you see that, I thought, yeah I 512 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: did too, I thought that, did you ever see? And 513 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: my mother like if she'd make something in the pan, 514 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: I was a hamburger, maybe some sort of beef, And 515 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: later on it all kind of congeals into this white 516 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: little yeah, white blue, this blob talent that is beef fat. 517 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: Lard is pork fat. Exactly. You're right. 518 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: Tallow is beefat lard is pork fat. That is the 519 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: difference between them, right. I know there's a lot of 520 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: lard in like Mexican cooking. 521 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah. When I go to Mexican restaurants, I 522 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: always asked, use lard. No, we don't. How long does 523 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: it take you to order vegetable oil? 524 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: It just depends on where I go. 525 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: Oh okay, but how long? 526 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: Drive's? 527 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: My husband insane? It just depends. Okay, I don't want 528 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: to consume anything with lard or tallow. Have you gone 529 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: on for five minutes? Probably? We used tallow at the 530 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo Wild Wings I worked at in college. Oh yeah, 531 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: oh yeah, for the Friars. 532 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: Everything well, before we celebrate all this, first of all, 533 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: the United Kingdom Transport Department provided over a million dollars 534 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: to plan and operate the flight, a huge step towards 535 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: what they call jet and zero to make air travel 536 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: more environmentally friendly. But you talk to other experts later 537 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: on the story, they don't believe that they can make 538 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: enough of this. Right now, arounder point one percent of 539 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: aviation fuel globally is made up what they call sustainable 540 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: aviation fuel, and they're not sure they can do it 541 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: on the scale they'd have to do it. 542 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: No, there's a lot of ideas that look great in 543 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: a research paper, and they can have conferences and dubai 544 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, they should be talking about this. Yeah. 545 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: Why can't John Kerry fly on tallow He's got a 546 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: face of tallo. Yeah he is. He's a fat head. Yeah. 547 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: The challenge is ramping up production to get enough volume, 548 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: so we're flying more sustainable aviation fuel every day. So 549 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: we're nowhere near that. 550 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: Yah. You know what, they really haven't improved on gasoline 551 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: and oil for ever since they made the first gas 552 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: powered car. 553 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: That's because it's it's still there and it's relatively cheap. 554 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. It's the perfect fuel and it's created 555 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: the modern world. Do you know how many people would 556 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: starve to death if we didn't burn fossil fuels. That's 557 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: what has brought billions, literally billions of people into at 558 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: least the middle class, or at least to survive. I 559 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: don't understand this. 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