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Speaker 1: Hey, lethal listeners, tag Torres here stay tuned for the

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Speaker 1: next episode of Lethal Lit. But before we dive into

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Speaker 1: today's episode, here's a quick word from our sponsor reporting

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Speaker 1: the line from the scene of the latest victim. In

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Speaker 1: a recent blue of death, there has rocked the community

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Speaker 1: of Hollow Falls. This time, the DJFPD have lost one

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Speaker 1: of their own, Detective Jake Lane. Okay, take take now,

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Speaker 1: It's not the time to lose control all of us.

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Speaker 1: Blood Doris, Hey, Doris, it's me Carver. Are you hurt.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm just trying to process. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be Okay, Take Can you tell me what happened?

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Speaker 1: I heard entire squealing, but I couldn't really see the car.

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Speaker 1: By the time I got to him, he was in

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Speaker 1: the road, all bent and bloody. Damn it, I'd warned him,

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Speaker 1: got too close. What he was a good cup, a

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Speaker 1: bit of an opportunist, but the best partner right had

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Speaker 1: in years. You hang around here long enough, you know

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Speaker 1: the type. They either move on to bigger cities with

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Speaker 1: bigger challenges, or burnout fast. Jake. He wanted to correct

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Speaker 1: this case so badly. I wanted to be the hero,

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Speaker 1: but this lid killer isn't just a crazy person, It's

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Speaker 1: an infection on this tab. All right, let's clear this scene.

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Speaker 1: Hine was one of ours people. Let's do right by him.

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Speaker 1: It's over, it's all ending. I'm tig Torres and this

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Speaker 1: is lethal lit. Detective Lehane, our one friend in the

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Speaker 1: police department, is now dead. But if you've been listening

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Speaker 1: to this podcast, you know his death was no random accident.

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Speaker 1: Lehane was run over by the lip killer, which means

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Speaker 1: we've lost our only supporter inside the police department, just

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Speaker 1: as the murderer is starting to evolve. In the original killings,

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Speaker 1: the books or clues left at a crime scene would

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Speaker 1: point back to the murder itself, But this time he

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Speaker 1: called it in advance, dropping clues about the Great Gatsby

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Speaker 1: to us. In Lehane before the murder. Was he taunting us,

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Speaker 1: showing off that he knew exactly how we'd react, how

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Speaker 1: Lehane would try to take matters into his own hands.

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Speaker 1: M it's in these dark moments that people have to

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Speaker 1: step up. I know Aunt Beth did. She just didn't

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Speaker 1: have anyone she could count on. If she had, she

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm so close to cracking the case.

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Speaker 1: I just need that one last break to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: It's so frustrating. Everything in Hollow Falls is on lockdown.

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Speaker 1: I'm at home on suggested bedrest. Detective Carver had me

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Speaker 1: checked out at the hospital, but they said I just

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Speaker 1: needed sleep. In the last twenty four hours, my friends

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Speaker 1: and I have been terrorized, injured, and kidnapped. Max and

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Speaker 1: Detective Lahane did not. So Needless to say, Detective Carver

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Speaker 1: isn't letting any of us out of her sight, not

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Speaker 1: even Ella. If we want to meet, we've got to

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Speaker 1: But the upside of being in solitary lots more time

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Speaker 1: to think, and two things stick out. First, the murder

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Speaker 1: of Detective Lehane was rushed. The lid killer only had

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Speaker 1: time to make the broad strokes, no note, no elaborate staging.

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Speaker 1: Is he worried because we're getting close to catching him

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Speaker 1: La Um, what's up? Is everything? Okay? I'm in the

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Speaker 1: middle of recording the podcast. I know how he boards

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Speaker 1: and it is do you mean? But lunch is on

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Speaker 1: made your favorite. I'll be down in a few minutes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: remember what the police lady said, did he the the

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Speaker 1: energy around us? He's dark? The flock is so sick.

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Speaker 1: You have to rest the care of yourself. I get

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Speaker 1: it be down soon. Stop please, all the murdered talk

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Speaker 1: when there's really nice, as I was saying. Second thing

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Speaker 1: the ant Bath tapes, I know they cover most of

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Speaker 1: the victims Amudola, del Canto, Senior Wosniac, except for one

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Speaker 1: there's a missing death. But um, check this out. I've

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Speaker 1: listened to these tapes more times than St. Vincent's latest,

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Speaker 1: and leaving the file playing until the end by Ray Bradberry.

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Speaker 1: That's important. But the pieces aren't adding up, and as usual,

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Speaker 1: Fahrenheit is a major clue. Why Well, in all the

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Speaker 1: books my aunt mentions in our tapes, each one is

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Speaker 1: why would she name drop just the Bradberry book here?

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Speaker 1: Because it was a message to herself and to her

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Speaker 1: only other hope, her partner, Sam Steiner. If we're missing

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Speaker 1: Ailauroavia will have to wait. I've got a craving for

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Speaker 1: some old school diner food dig We've been sitting here

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Speaker 1: I are outside the Star of Diner entering our three

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Speaker 1: Aboila and her homecooked food make for the perfect distraction.

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Speaker 1: So now we're sitting here and when's Mom's car? Hoping

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Speaker 1: for another glimpse of our elusive bigfoot, Sam Steiner, So

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Speaker 1: when are we going to talk about you and ali

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Speaker 1: um the day after never? We're on a steak out here.

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Speaker 1: We don't have time to like gossip tig. We're on

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Speaker 1: a steak out. We've literally got nothing but time to kill.

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Speaker 1: Are you uncomfortable talking about having sex with Ali? What? WHOA? No?

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Speaker 1: Just I'm gonna be real with you, Tig. I like you.

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Speaker 1: At first. I thought I got a vibe off of you.

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Speaker 1: But what kind of vibe? Like good into chicks vibe?

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Speaker 1: You get that right? Some people are gay? Of course

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Speaker 1: I get that. I'm from New York. I know all

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Speaker 1: matter girls boys, by pan, that's your business to figure out.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is if you're feeling Ali, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: If you're just into dudes, also cool. But if you're

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what to say to all that,

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Speaker 1: but I guess thanks. When a tig rull in your window?

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Speaker 1: Oh ah, hey Sam, honey, running into you here? Get

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Speaker 1: up follow me. After our pulse rates returned to normal,

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Speaker 1: Sam led us to his trailer, which is the place

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Speaker 1: you live when you don't want anyone to ever visit.

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Speaker 1: What you were playing hard to get, unstoppable when there

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Speaker 1: was something or someone she was after. She was like

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Speaker 1: a machine, steely, I'd focus. She set up all these

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Speaker 1: clues for us to follow, each of which has led

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Speaker 1: talking to this guy again? You're full of it, Sam.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm not my Aunt Beth, And yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: following her clues looks like I'm just retracing her steps.

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Speaker 1: But what's your excuse? Why do you give up? There's

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Speaker 1: only explanation for the gap in Aunt Beth's narrative? And

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Speaker 1: like you said, she's not the type to leave loose ends.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I was quick to judge you. After all, the

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Speaker 1: best reporters pushed through. They they learn what to do

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Speaker 1: when their investigation hits a roadblock, the backtrack. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: my aunt mentions the book Fahrenheit for early on as

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Speaker 1: one the killer used for inspiration. But yet none of

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Speaker 1: the six murders include her own line up with that book,

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Speaker 1: which makes me wonder if there's still another tape and

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Speaker 1: you come across the name Anna Killedean. I've held onto

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Speaker 1: there to the crossing alone? Where were you that night?

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Speaker 1: I was a desk jockey, the reporter who could work

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Speaker 1: to explain myself to you? Here? Take the tape, do

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Speaker 1: something with it. When Sam handed me the tape, I

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Speaker 1: felt an electric shock. This could be the key to everything.

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Speaker 1: My aunt Feth wasn't killed because she was annoying the

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Speaker 1: lip killer. She was killed because she was close to

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Speaker 1: useful to solving her more. I listened to it, I

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Speaker 1: to who the Murder of Crows? So you know about

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Speaker 1: the group? Yeah, yeah, I mentioned a few, but about

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Speaker 1: not your aunt. Take I'm not made up of the

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Speaker 1: listening to you. You've created a movement with that podcast

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Speaker 1: So who else knows about this tape? Anyone else besides

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Speaker 1: the crew? I don't think so, And what I told

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Speaker 1: I do know that Beth was seeing someone off and

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Speaker 1: on at the time of her death. But and Beth

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Speaker 1: had a secret hook up when No, Seriously, this is

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Speaker 1: a big clue. What if she was Pillow talking Sam?

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Speaker 1: What did she dish to you about her man? Look,

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Speaker 1: she was my friend, but tib Beth kip those parts

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Speaker 1: the logistics of my aunt's social life later. So that's it.

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Speaker 1: You remain here in your hideout while you let other

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Speaker 1: it to my aunt Bath. What do you want from me?

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Speaker 1: Nothing's changed. I'm still same scared piece of crap I

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Speaker 1: it's about time you two left. I didn't have time

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Speaker 1: Either he was helping us or he was holding us back.

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Speaker 1: It's the end of the road for the lit Killer.

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Speaker 1: All of the clues he's been leaving up until now,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's roll, Sam, you're with me. I'll fill

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