WEBVTT - Ep. 3: Handlining Lumpsuckers with Choklahomans 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.480 I'm pretty sure that the lump sucker of we've all 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.440 caught one of those, which gave you a ninety seven 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.440 percent chance of just snagging one in the asshole region. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.920 Those stock bodies moved like they've been pumped full of 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.880 bo tongs. Throws him on his ass, ruined his phone. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:23.920 The girlfriends Peter, Good morning, degenerate anglers, and welcome back 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.720 to Bent, the fishing podcast equivalent of Fear and Loathing 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.160 in Las Vegas, minus the drugs and hip cool interesting 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:34.559 people as the main characters. I'm Jose Surmellie Miles, and 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.280 thankfully I've I've never found myself in the depths of 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:41.640 neither binge. My my own depravity usually just involves torturing 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:47.239 water creatures for my own amusement. Anyway, we're gonna do 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.760 what we do best and send all kinds of oddities 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.800 related to fishing whizzing past your ear holes. It's your job, okay, 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.720 to snatch a nugget of knowledge or fun factor weirdness 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.720 before it gets away and is thereby consumed by the 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:05.680 SMA harder, more aggressive predator downstream. Oh that image, uh, 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.959 you know, you got me thinking about aggressive predators and 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.720 that kind of fits because today's regional Fisher comes to 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:17.959 us from Captain Zach hammer Miller down in South Florida, 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:22.200 and uh, if you're familiar with the segment, you should 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.720 be excited for a Florida edition. That's all I'm gonna say. 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.760 The hammer is is uh an old buddy of mine, 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.440 dear friend. And yeah, basically, um Za just recaps what's 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.520 going on in his real life right. His sports are 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:39.280 based around his recent experiences as they pertain to chartering 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.200 part time, paying the bills by working in the residential 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:46.000 irrigation industry, and generally hating South Florida and all the 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.360 people that live there that aren't him. So, as Zach 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:57.800 likes to say, buckle up, what's up, everybody, it's your boy, 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:01.000 Captain Zack the hammer Miller from Throat Down Fishing Charters 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.640 here in St. Lucy, Florida, coming at you with this 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.760 week South Florida Fishing Report. Oh and yesterday we had 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.679 a hoot and anny of a trip with a young 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.200 eighteen year old couple that was down here staying on 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.359 vacation at the Club med for their honeymoon from ch Oklahoma. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.000 And he called me up and he's like, man, He's like, 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.360 I want to catch a goliath group or I'm like, mother, 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.600 we're gonna get catch as many as you're in Midwest 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.200 asking handle. So we go out there. I hook him 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.799 up with the rope, the gloves and a circle hook. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.280 I'm like, here you go, buddy, have at it. He's like, 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.200 what do you mean, where's the rod. I'm like, this 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.600 is the rod. I'm like, this is it. Surprised I'm 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.600 gonna get ready. He's like, man, I don't know if 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:38.919 I could take it. I'm my dude. I'm like, you 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.680 gotta be about your ship. You gotta be in it 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.360 to win it. Brother. So we dropped down a fifteen 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.360 pound beneit of this dude catches in. As soon as 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.280 that thing hits the bottom thump, and he's like, how 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:49.919 do I know when it gets eight I'm like, oh, 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.320 let me tell you something. That thing's gonna give dump 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.240 truck with the mother get ready. You better eat your 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.440 wheaties because it's coming here hard and fast. Boom thump. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.920 He is getting yoked. Dude, I come in for reinforcements. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.639 On the back side of that rope. It almost spools us. 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:06.480 You know how hard it is. To get spooled on 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.240 a hundred feet of rope. So this grouper, once it's 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.280 done thrashing around, throws him on his ass, ruined his phone. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.800 The girlfriend's puking and he's like, God damn. He's like 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.280 nobody in Oklahoma was gonna believe me, and I'm like, hey, 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.320 you know, probably not anyway. Another bite that I heard 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.520 was really good this week was the sail fish offshore 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.400 in about a hundred twenty ft. Unfortunately, I was not 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.880 able to attend that bite because I was busy in 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.520 a hundred twenty degree heat index, crawling on my stomach 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.240 under a ladies trailer and a retirement home in six 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.640 inches of water, trying to find a main sprinkler break. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.440 But you know, as I sat down there, reflecting on 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.800 hearing how people were putting nine sales to the boat 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.360 in the morning, I was just sitting under her trailer 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.600 praying that it collapsed on me so I wouldn't have 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.280 to live out this hellish nightmare anymore and keep missing bites. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.960 Now for this week's South Florida Freshwater Fishing Report, brought 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.200 to you by the wonderful people at the Okachobe Water 0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:00.160 Management District, after we got twenty seven inches a biblic hole, 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.040 Moses asked rain they were kind enough to dump all 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.440 that lovely freshwater out into our saltwater Indian River here, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:11.200 making it an absolute toxic wasteland. The water is so 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.000 fresh right now. We're out at the front of the 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.480 mouth of the inlet the other day and outgoing tide, 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.200 and we were site fishing long nosegar coming out the 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.240 inlet with some to lapia rolling around, absolutely electric freshwater 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:26.159 fishing twenty miles from the nearest body of freshwater. But hey, 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.160 we can't knitpick on where we're getting our reports from here. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.960 Let's just be real people, freshwater. That's it. That's the 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.080 end of the story. Unless you want to site fish 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.680 gar with me and what's supposed to be saltwater. That 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:43.320 is your freshwater fishing report for this week. Alright. So truthfully, 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.400 I don't I don't actually know Zach. I've I've never 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.240 I've never met the dude, But I know I know 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:49.960 you do, and I know you fish with him a lot, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.719 and I just I have to ask, is he is 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.479 he actually fun to hang out with her? Is he 0:04:55.560 --> 0:05:00.480 just kind of a dick all the time? That's a 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.919 fair question. But he's a blast. He's he really is, 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.279 and he's one of those people. His grumpiness is endearing, 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.520 you know what I mean, Like the hammer wouldn't be 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.960 the hammer if he wasn't bitching about something. So yeah, 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.000 I love fishing with him. And true story, we met 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.480 years ago while shooting a land based shark fishing deal 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.359 because he used to be heavily involved into that scene. Um, 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:27.360 and I owe my biggest fish ever to Zach ten 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:31.120 foot hammerhead. We estimated in the five pound range off 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.960 the beach, like I reel that some bitch in with 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.520 my feet on the sand. You know. So he knows 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.200 his ship and you can find him at throw down 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.479 Fishing dot com. You'll catch fish, You'll leave feeling more 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:47.200 patriotic and better equipped to insult people. I'm sold. I'm 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.960 sold on all counts there. Seriously that that's uh, that's 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:51.880 worth the president mission. I will I will holler at 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:53.360 Zack the next time I feel like getting the hell 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.040 out of town and being a tourist in someone else's 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.479 part of the world. Uh. And you know where I 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:04.280 live up here in Montana, we we depend on the tourists, 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.479 right like we depend on all those people come to 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:11.280 our state and spend their hard earned or I mean 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.680 more likely easily inherited money on restaurants and hotels and 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.839 fishing gear and ski passes and you know, of course 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.719 fishing guides. But that doesn't mean that we're like nice 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.039 to them. It doesn't mean that when we see California 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.320 plates in traffic, we don't cut them off and flip 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.720 them the bird like it. And I realized that that's 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:33.680 kind of a problem, like we should think a little 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:35.599 bit bigger and recognize that we need them and maybe 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.640 be nice to them. But we're not. And it turns 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:43.839 out that's not unique to specifically tourist destinations as as Joe, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.880 as you will explain in this next installment of Weekly Word, 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:55.680 Webster's Dictionary defines fish as this week's word is muppier. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.080 That's m e U p e A R. And I 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.560 first heard this and while steel head fishing on Elk 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.200 Creek in northwest Pennsylvania about seven years ago. And I 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.760 remember the water that fall was ridiculously low, and it 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.080 actually trapped all the steel head that had already run 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.800 up Elk from Lake Erie into any pools that were 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.200 more than a foot deep, so needless to say, it 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.520 made the fishing really tough because there were so many 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.000 fish jammed into each hole. They were like black with 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.440 steelhead that on any given drift there was I don't know, 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.360 maybe like a three percent chance that one would actually 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.160 open its mouth, and eighth the fly, which gave you 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:37.000 a nineteent chance of just snagging one in the asshole region. 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.240 But it was during our struggle. We're fishing with local 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:44.559 guide Chris Gazolin, and he lamented that man, the mupp 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.680 bears are gonna be snagging the ship out of him 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:51.160 this weekend, and my natural reaction to that was the 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.440 hell's a mupp bear man? And Chris informed me that 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.960 it was the local term for city folk from Pittsburgh 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.920 that come up here to crash at their family cabins 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.640 and trailers and fish for the weekend. Now, according to 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.280 the Urban Dictionary, which by the way, I personally hold 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.440 in higher regard than Merriam Webster's, it's also used by 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.679 year round residents of western Pennsylvania college towns to refer 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.560 to out of state students to use it in a sentence, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.480 I can't wait until the mupp ears leave for spring break. Likewise, 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.680 students from Western PA that leave Pittsburgh and its suburbs 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.520 to go to schools in more rural areas say things 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.560 like a mup bear study and business. So the term 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.480 can also be used as a general contraction of I'm 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.280 up here coming from Jersey, I was. I was just 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.480 like tickled by the term. I thought it was just fantastic. 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.600 And there's some version of muppier almost everywhere you go right. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.440 As an example, a muppier along the North Jersey coast 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.400 is called a Benny, which is an acronym for anyone 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:55.480 that shows up on the weekend from the cities of Bayonne, Elizabeth, Newark, 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.000 or from the entire state of New York, which gives 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.240 Benny the n y at the end there right. Inevitably, 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:06.000 someone spray paints Bye Bye Benny on at least one 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.320 Garden State Parkway overpass every Labor Day weekend, and I 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:15.319 still laugh every time I say it. Since we're on 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.280 the topic of derogatory terms for outsiders, we'd love to 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.880 have a few more for future weekly word segments, so 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.080 please email them to us at bent at the meat 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.760 Eator dot com and I'll come up there and check 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:31.120 them out. Moving on to trivia, where we call up 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.400 people we know and talk them into playing a stupid 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.640 game where they can't actually win anything but stand a 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:39.040 pretty good chance of losing their dignity. Today we're talking 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.680 to phishing guide, movie star, and terrible boat driver my 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.960 good friend Frank smith First, you gotta be highly skilled 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.079 for these shows. You understand that. If I under are 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.880 you well burst? They are? You very smart men? All right, 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:58.560 today's contestant is my very good friend Frank smith Hurst. Frank, 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.599 how are you all great? I'm just nervous. Are you 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:05.120 excited to play the trivia game? I am excited? I'm excited? 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.800 Should I have a mind like steel trap for trivia? 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.000 I won the trivia contest, the trivia open until you're 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.880 at one time? Oh not not to build yourself up 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.640 too much. Well we'll see now I'm gonna drop the ball. 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.720 I shouldn't have said that, you know, I will say this. 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.040 I before we actually met, Frank, I knew you as 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.439 I think a lot of people in the fishing industry 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.280 know you as as a guy who went all over 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.800 the world and caught all kinds of exotic cool species 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:36.439 from Baja to come chop cut to Dubai. I mean, 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.440 you've been all over the place and caught all kinds 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.640 of cool fish. But when we actually started hanging out 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.839 and I got to know you on a personal level, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:48.680 I realized very quickly that your deep, deep, deep passion 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.720 actually seems to be for native fish of your home 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.920 state of Georgia, despite the fact that you've been all 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:59.040 over the world native American fish, you know, not just Georgia. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.640 George is really interesting because it's got so many species. 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.840 I want to say it's three species. Will hold on 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.120 before you go there, I'm gonna stop you, Frank, because 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:14.760 your questions. Your first question, Frank, how many different species 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:20.240 of freshwater fish are native to Georgia? Is it A 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:27.040 six hundred eight B one hundred and thirty three see 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:33.880 two hundred and sixty five or D seventy seven? Um, 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:35.640 just like the S A T. S. I'm gonna have 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.880 to go with ce Alex oh Ding ding Ding. He 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.559 nails it well. And just so you know, that's debatable 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.760 because there are so many really really amazing sociecies debatable. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.360 On the upside, there's a lot of subspecies. I can 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.640 show you some stuff that isn't in the books. You know, 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.960 you get down in the black Water swamps, there's some 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.920 wonderful hybrid weirdo sunfish and their strands of bass down 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.079 there that have yet to be discovered and named. Derek, 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.360 you heard it here first. You you're on a roll, buddy, 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.920 You're on a roll. Question number two, which is kind 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.600 of more tagging onto your love of strange fish from 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.720 all over the world. Which of the following is not 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:20.120 is not an actual fish? Is it? A? The longtooth 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:28.679 snapping eel b, the sarcastic fringe head, see the slippery 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:34.560 dick or D the lump sucker. Do you want to 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.839 hear those again? Oh? You know, I think I've getting 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.040 a good idea about what to answer, but I definitely 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.800 want to hear them again because they're so good. So 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:47.359 you got a the longtooth snapping eel b, the sarcastic 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:51.880 fringe head, see the slippery dick or D the lump sucker, 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:57.520 which is not an actual fish? What was what was 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:04.480 b again? The sarcastic star castic fringe head? Mm hmm 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:12.400 that one. Uh. The others just seem like better fish names. 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.720 VI A trifle um. I don't know this for sure, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.520 except I know the slippery dick. We can eliminate that. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.600 I'm pretty sure that the lump sucker. We've all caught 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.000 one of those. Um A, what was A again? The 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:30.840 French long the long toothed snapping eel. M m yeah, 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:32.599 And I know it's either A or B or the 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.880 right answer. That's what I's got to pick one. Which 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.200 is it? I'm getting close. There's a process that plates 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.320 in work here. Um, I'm just gonna say it's the 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:47.079 a A. You are like a savant at this, Frank. Yes, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.280 the long too snapping eel does not exist, but the 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.640 sarcastic fringe head is a real fish. Frank, so far 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.000 I think you are the old the grand champion of 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.160 our trivia show. Thank you so much for playing. What 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:03.160 did I win? Salutely? Nothing? Yeah, that's that's about the story, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:12.200 if that's okay. The funny thing about this is that 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.320 I was recently in the process of putting together a 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.640 hosted trip for sarcastic fringe heads and I can only 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:21.200 get two people to sign on. Yet. Last year, my 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.440 hosted slippery Dick trip sold out in two days at 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:30.320 ten thousand. No. I'm sorry, Joe, but I'm not touching 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.120 that slipper, you're not taking a bait on that I'm 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.840 not touching the slippery dick. Let's chug along to fish 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:40.320 News first and foremost to educate you on recent fishy happenings, 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:44.080 but also to see who's better they're finding good fish 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:53.000 news stories Me or Joe. Fish news that escalated quickly. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:57.120 So this is fish News. And as a reminder, this 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:01.240 is also the fish News Competition official because Miles and 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.440 I have no idea what news stories the other is 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.320 bringing to the table. This episode three, we have an 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.280 overlap yet, so good for us, right, It's it's inevitable 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.160 at some point one of us is gonna be really pissed. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.680 It's gonna happen. And every time we talk before we 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.440 do this, it's like this is gonna be the week, 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.920 and like you're gonna have this one, so we'll see. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.320 That's why it's always beneficial to be the leadoff man, 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.280 which is me this week. And I gotta tell you 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.200 how I missed this one. I do not know, but 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.760 it's probably because I don't spend nearly as much time 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:38.040 looking through my general Facebook feed as most people. Uh. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.960 It's either that or most of my friends are legit anglers. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:45.000 So maybe we all missed this one, okay, but it's fantastic, 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.520 all right. This article comes from USA Today and is 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:54.640 titled ready fact check, No, blue gills aren't as dangerous 0:15:54.720 --> 0:16:03.320 as piranhas. Nope, I did not. I think we're good again. Okay, 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.840 So here's what happened, right. Apparently apparently there's been a 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.160 meme circulating on Facebook, and it's a picture of a 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:15.000 bluegill replica amount and on top it reads did you know? 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.880 And below the photo it reads the blue gill fish 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.280 is one of the most dangerous fish in North America. 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.200 The bluegill is related to the deadly piranha, which is 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:28.680 responsible for twenty thousand deaths per year. When the yeah, 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.560 when the bluegill are feeding into school, they can completely 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.600 dismantle a human body in less than fifteen minutes. Bluegills 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.440 are responsible for over five deaths in the United States 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.640 every summer. This is some real ship that was circulating 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.440 on Facebook. And the funny thing is, when I believe 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.720 it was really circulating, I don't believe this is real, 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.200 but anyway, go ahead, I don't want to jump in here. No, no, no, 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.600 it was really circulating, right, So when I clicked on 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.520 the link to to actually look at the post and Facebook, 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:02.600 sure enough, like there's the official um false information sticker 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.080 on it from Facebook, like the false information firewall that 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:07.560 I had to click and say, like, do you still 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.240 want to see this even though we've proven its false information? 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.320 And I swear, dude, I've never seen this pop up 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.320 and if people are listening or like, yeah, everybody's seen that, 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.360 like apologies, but this one was news to me, all right. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:25.119 And according to the story, Facebook user Crystal Bast shared 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.399 the image to a fishing group recently and it was 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.440 reshared over nine thousand times, and um, you know, here's 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.160 the weird thing. Though USA Today says the meme has 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.719 actually been around for two years and this woman just 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:44.879 reposted it, and they say, um. A PolitiFact check article 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.920 from last year pointed out that Ohio Fish News, where 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:55.960 the information supposedly came from, isn't a real publication, and 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:00.440 Crystal Bast herself said she reshared it because she thought 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.639 it would be a fun joke that would lead to 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:07.639 funny comments. And some of those comments because I looked, include, wow, 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.920 somebody has been breathing in too much car exhaust and 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:19.000 my favorite one almost pulled my nipple off yesterday. But 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.480 here's here's where it really hits home for me. Okay, 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:26.560 because the dispelling of this fake news was left to 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:30.320 poor journalist Katie Landeck at USA Today, And I got 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.679 the biggest kick out of the fact check sources at 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.800 the bottom of the article, which includes SeaWorld and Cornell University. 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.720 So like poor Katie Landeck had to actually dig into 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.639 a bunch of legit sources, which is which is the 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.960 professional way to do things right. I'm not not gonna 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.040 but I sympathize because it hearkens me back to early 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.440 days at the magazines, like when you're like young and 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.400 all you wanna do is write about the cool ship 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.400 that you're catching and badass fish and somebody's like, yeah, 0:18:57.880 --> 0:18:59.639 I'm gonna need you to call the guy that just 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.000 called world record short nose, pig face grunt and get 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.080 the scoop on that. Oh that is like, you know, 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.240 she's the low person on the total pole there and 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.920 might be came across that came across someone's desk and said, yeah, 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:15.879 we need to refute this, and she looked like you 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:21.040 gotta be kidding. Clearly this is the world and make 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:25.440 a difference with journalism not journalism. Oh my god, I will. 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.840 I will admit though, like I have been bitten by 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.880 many a blue deal before, but it really just kind 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.600 of tickles. Yeah, you know, like it kind of feels good. 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.240 You can you can dangle your feet in off the 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.199 dock and the little blue del come up and it's 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:39.639 kind of fun. Used to be able to do that 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.640 in Spas, right, that was like a whole thing Mamber 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.040 of years ago. They had like, you know, foot treatment. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.960 They would eat the dead skin off your nasty ass feet. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.680 The spines. I've been hurt worse by the spines and 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:52.639 the teeth. I don't even know if they're out teeth. 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.720 But yeah, again, apologies if that's the thing. Like, everybody 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.840 is aware of this meme, but I certainly wasn't. I 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.200 this is the first I've ever heard of it. News 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:06.639 to me, man, news to me. Um. I'm gonna stick 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:12.320 with our theme of of of of fish attacks, all right. 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.480 I I first came across this story through a particularly 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:20.000 um I think we just called a sensationalist headline that's 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.959 from the Daily Mail. So here here's here's the headline 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:28.000 that's like weekly World News, isn't it exactly exactly? Get this? 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:32.919 One YouTuber conducts gruesome experiment by pumping human blood and 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.760 fish blood into the ocean to see which meal sharks 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:41.320 prefer to feast on. Right now, there's so much to 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.160 talk about just in that headline right there. I mean, 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.399 first of all, like a headline probably shouldn't go on 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.320 for two lines. But I'm not gonna get all journalists 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.119 on this because the Daily Mail. But you know, I 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.280 don't know about you, Joe, but YouTube isn't my go 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:57.879 to source for valid science, and I'm gonna tell everybody 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:00.640 out there that it really shouldn't be yours there. It's 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.240 like not or Facebook for that matter. It depends on 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.040 the science. Like if like it is my go to 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:08.360 for putting together I kea furniture, you know what I mean? 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:12.240 But that's not really signed not science, not science directions. Sure, 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:16.720 how to videos, yes, science, No, uh, just don't don't 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.239 confuse those people like YouTubers are known for a lot 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:23.080 of reasons, right, but they're scientific. The rigor in scientific 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:27.760 methodology just is not one of them. Correct. Also, let's 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.080 just keep going with this. Let's let's assume this headline 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.800 has even a kernel of truth to it. Where did 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:37.119 human blood come from? Yes? I mean fresh human blood 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.760 is not something you can just go by at the 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:44.280 store unless you're Keith Richards like you don't get human blood. 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:52.880 No one can go get that or Walterski. So I 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.960 I dug into it a little. Uh. The YouTube video 0:21:55.960 --> 0:22:00.640 itself is titled Shark Attack test human blood versus Fish 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:04.359 Blood and Shocker. It was part of this year's Shark 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:10.800 Week on Discovery Channel. Yeah that's right, hang on, hang on, 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:12.920 hang on. It was. It was made by a guy 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.440 named Mark rober He he seems like he actually does 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.959 understand science because he used to be an engineer at NASA, 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.840 and I'm gonna say that qualifies him as far more 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:26.080 of a scientist than I am, or or than you are, Joe, Like, 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:31.560 he's a legitimate NASA engineer who turned YouTuber. I want 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.280 to know some of the backstory on that, but I don't. 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.200 I don't have it. Anyway. I watched the video, which 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:41.040 was predictably YouTube cheesy but interesting and well put together. 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:45.000 And for the experiment itself, they put three surfboards out 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.560 in sharky waters in the Bahamas. One had a jug 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:51.200 of fish blood, one had a jug of quote human blood, 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.920 and one had a jug of seawater as a control. 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:56.400 Each had a little pump that scored at a shot 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.280 of liquid at regular intervals. They monitored the area with 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.399 a drone and counted the sharks that came to each board. 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.080 And here's where it kind of fell ap art for me. 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.800 The human blood was actually cows blood, all right, because 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:13.600