Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. Welcome
Speaker 1: everyone to this Saturday edition, a weekend edition of Morning
Speaker 1: Run where we talk about the stories that kept us
Speaker 1: talking after we turned off our microphones on this week's
Speaker 1: Morning runs.
Speaker 2: And we have a ton of.
Speaker 1: Stories to get deeper into, but I don't know, Let's
Speaker 1: begin with perhaps the one that the world is talking about,
Speaker 1: Pope Leo the fourteenth, the first American pope in the
Speaker 1: history of the Vatican. And really, you and I watched
Speaker 1: it happen, and I think, like most of the world,
Speaker 1: we were shocked, and then at least for probably most Americans,
Speaker 1: I felt a sense and a source.
Speaker 3: Of pride, incredibly excited.
Speaker 4: You know, I had some initial concerns about the rest
Speaker 4: of the world being turned off by here they go again,
Speaker 4: we had another American in some power position. We are already, right,
Speaker 4: we're always the the I don't want to call us
Speaker 4: the bully on the block, but oftentimes we're the big dog.
Speaker 4: And now this powerful position is going to an American
Speaker 4: as well. I wondered how people receive that. Obviously a
Speaker 4: lot of people are excited about him, but when you
Speaker 4: start to hear about him, I'm excited about him bringing
Speaker 4: American culture to something as archaic in a lot of
Speaker 4: ways as the Vatican and their traditions.
Speaker 2: And maybe as secretive.
Speaker 1: You know, people, there's always been such mystery and wonder
Speaker 1: about what really happens, what the power structure is truly
Speaker 1: like inside the halls of the Sistine Chapel and beyond
Speaker 1: in the Vatican. But I do think there is, at
Speaker 1: least for us as Americans, there's so much relatability. This
Speaker 1: is a dude who comes from Chicago, He went to
Speaker 1: Villanova University. He has family, obviously still his brothers talking
Speaker 1: to reporters saying he at a young age always knew
Speaker 1: he wanted to go into some sort of service within
Speaker 1: the church. And I believe it's pretty remarkable. Someone came
Speaker 1: up to him, his brother told the story early on
Speaker 1: in his life and said, you're going to be the
Speaker 1: first American pope. That's pretty remarkable that this is a
Speaker 1: man whom I have no reason not to believe.
Speaker 3: I heard stories like that before.
Speaker 4: People who end up in big positions, they say when
Speaker 4: they were a kid, I always knew.
Speaker 1: But I mean, it's a it's kind of a cool
Speaker 1: story that from a very young age, he felt called
Speaker 1: to serve, and I think that is very unusual and
Speaker 1: incredibly remarkable. And to think he actually not just he
Speaker 1: he got there, he was voted on by one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty two other cardinals.
Speaker 2: Who chose him. So it's it's cool.
Speaker 1: It wasn't some popular election or what the world wanted.
Speaker 1: These cardinals who got to know each other, and most
Speaker 1: of them didn't know one another because they were newly
Speaker 1: appointed by Pope Francis. And I think it's it says
Speaker 1: something about him and who he is that he was
Speaker 1: able to get the collective support from all of these
Speaker 1: cardinals from around the world.
Speaker 4: And the Villanova is a great school. Chicago's a great town.
Speaker 4: But when you think about the elites in this country,
Speaker 4: when the elite schools even you talk about the Ivy
Speaker 4: Leagues and the Harvard's and the all those types of schools,
Speaker 4: Bella was a great school. But in Chicago's a great time.
Speaker 4: But it's still not New York. It's still not La
Speaker 4: There's something still blue collar about those places salting over
Speaker 4: in Chicago. Those are places you've got to be in
Speaker 4: the thick of it, you got to be have a
Speaker 4: little grime to you, there's something it says about him
Speaker 4: those two places, even so I look forward to seeing
Speaker 4: what this guy does. Haven't heard him speaking was yet.
Speaker 1: I'm in school.
Speaker 2: I haven't earlier. Like they've put out some of his
Speaker 2: earlier it not as pope.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he's only been speaking in Italian and Spanish,
Speaker 1: that's what we've heard. I know he knows some Latin.
Speaker 1: I believe I was looking he knows. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a he was living in Peru. He is a
Speaker 1: learned man and knows multiple languages and is going to
Speaker 1: hopefully unite so many people.
Speaker 2: It's exciting.
Speaker 1: It's from the interviews I heard from him earlier, when
Speaker 1: he was just a bishop.
Speaker 2: I hate to say just a bishop or a cardinal.
Speaker 1: But it's funny. My family hails from Michigan. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of fans in Chicago, so there's this like
Speaker 1: classic Chicago accent.
Speaker 2: And to hear him.
Speaker 1: Speak like my family speaks was so interesting because when
Speaker 1: we think of the pope, it just seems like it
Speaker 1: is obviously one of the most powerful positions historically in
Speaker 1: the world. And so to hear him talk like people
Speaker 1: I know and I'm from talk was just an interesting connection.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we're rooting him on and we cannot wait
Speaker 1: to hear what he has to say. He's going to
Speaker 1: be speaking to reporters on Monday, so we'll hopefully maybe
Speaker 1: hear a little bit of English from him. Also, another
Speaker 1: story that kept us talking. You loved this one, TJ.
Speaker 1: Because it's so hard to get your head around. The
Speaker 1: Navy found a way in less than a week to
Speaker 1: literally lose two seventy eighty million dollar Fa eighteen fighter
Speaker 1: jets in the ocean.
Speaker 4: Then lose him in battle. They weren't shot down by
Speaker 4: the enemy. They fell off the side of an aircraft carrier,
Speaker 4: same one. Somebody's got to get fired for this something.
Speaker 4: But an investigator, should planes even be taking off from
Speaker 4: that aircraft carrier anymore?
Speaker 3: This is wild to me. This is in the Red Sea.
Speaker 4: Of course they're supporting the US operation against the Huthis
Speaker 4: is what this aircraft carrier the USS.
Speaker 2: Truman, right, Yes, USS Truman one.
Speaker 4: The toe crew just lost control of the one as
Speaker 4: they were towing it. It just rolled, literally rolled off
Speaker 4: the side of an aircraft carrier. Eight days later, another one
Speaker 4: trying to land misses the hook. It can't slow down,
Speaker 4: can't stop, so it rolls right off the side. Nobody
Speaker 4: no major injuries, we should say, but this blows my
Speaker 4: mind that we can just waste we just dropping planes.
Speaker 2: It's it's frightening and hard to imagine.
Speaker 1: Like and thankfully, look, I have had a unique experience
Speaker 1: to actually be in an air on a Fa eighteen
Speaker 1: and land on aircraft carrier the HW Bush. This is
Speaker 1: years and years ago. But when you hook on that
Speaker 1: on that line, it's you have the tail and it
Speaker 1: hooks on. You go from like, I don't know, eight
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour to zero in three seconds. This
Speaker 1: is like a very carefully calculated car crash. The impact
Speaker 1: of just getting to a complete stop when you're at
Speaker 1: such a high rate of speed for them to just
Speaker 1: keep going, I can't even imagine. So remarkably they were
Speaker 1: able to eject. They probably just had seconds to do
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking about that the level of expertise those
Speaker 1: pilots had to have to actually even get out of
Speaker 1: there safely with minor injuries. And so that's the good
Speaker 1: news that no one was hurt. But someone has to
Speaker 1: explain or account for almost two hundred million dollars of
Speaker 1: equipment just falling into the sea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is look, we expect losses, but like if
Speaker 4: it happens in war and military operations, you can't just
Speaker 4: be dropping stuff off the side into the water.
Speaker 1: The first one had you talking, the second one your
Speaker 1: jaw drops.
Speaker 4: They have got to stop that. They need to take
Speaker 4: the USS Truman out of commission. I forgot what's going on?
Speaker 1: All right, So you know, here's another story that just
Speaker 1: it had us ah sad. And then moving on to
Speaker 1: a larger question. So the news of Smokey Robinson in
Speaker 1: this fifty million dollar lawsuit. This is a Motown legend.
Speaker 1: His music is iconic and still holds to this day.
Speaker 1: You love him, you love his voice, and then you
Speaker 1: hear these heinous acts he's accused of committing by four
Speaker 1: women who were housekeepers at his home, saying that they
Speaker 1: were repeatedly sexually assaulted and raped, some of them two
Speaker 1: of them, I believe, saying more than twenty times. And
Speaker 1: it gets into this larger question of can you you know,
Speaker 1: we don't know. He hasn't been proven to have done
Speaker 1: any of these crimes or convicted of anything.
Speaker 2: But then you still.
Speaker 1: Start to wonder, can you separate the art from the
Speaker 1: artist when you hear these types of allegations, we.
Speaker 3: Should maintain it.
Speaker 4: We should also make sure we say he has maintained
Speaker 4: his innocence.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: These are vile and false allegations from people trying to
Speaker 4: shake them down for money. We have seen cases like
Speaker 4: that before. I'm sure we have also in cases where
Speaker 4: people have been accused and things like this and turn
Speaker 4: out and end up guilty. Not suggesting that about Smokey.
Speaker 4: It's just it's eighty. He's eighty five years old. We
Speaker 4: call a motown legend, but he started that.
Speaker 3: He was an original.
Speaker 4: He was like, he's royalty when it comes to music
Speaker 4: and certainly motown. We were asked this question something completely unrelated,
Speaker 4: having to do with Woody Allen right watching his art.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can you watch his movies knowing what you
Speaker 1: know about him, and.
Speaker 3: What do you do? What do we do?
Speaker 4: Again, Smokey Robinson is innocent. We just this is is said,
Speaker 4: He's innocent. I'm saying we It just reminded us in
Speaker 4: that conversation, what do you do with artists who are
Speaker 4: accused of really heinous things or even convicted?
Speaker 3: What do you do with their art?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You start thinking about r Kelly Michael Jackson, Sean
Speaker 1: Diddy Coombs. These are people who have created art and
Speaker 1: music that is truly phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Oh, legendary stuff all.
Speaker 1: Time great and like nostalgic and takes you back and
Speaker 1: you know you love listening to because you remember where
Speaker 1: you were and all of that stuff. Do you have
Speaker 1: to stop watching? Do you have to stop listening? Can
Speaker 1: you find a way to appreciate without feeling like you're
Speaker 1: doing something wrong?
Speaker 3: Well a couple questions.
Speaker 4: Is that just a personal should that only be a
Speaker 4: personal conflict and a personal question. But what turns into
Speaker 4: an issue is that someone else takes issue with you
Speaker 4: with the personal choice you have made.
Speaker 1: See that's where I actually do think one hundred percent
Speaker 1: it is a personal choice, and I don't think that
Speaker 1: you should impose what you choose on other people. I'm
Speaker 1: someone who believes and who has been able to judge
Speaker 1: me if you'd like. But I can separate the art
Speaker 1: from the artist. I think about it a little bit,
Speaker 1: But sometimes I have to admit I still enjoy a
Speaker 1: lot of this music and a lot of those.
Speaker 2: Movies, And you know you could.
Speaker 1: There's so many and I just feel like there are
Speaker 1: so many things we don't know about people. If you're
Speaker 1: going to start now looking at every single person, even
Speaker 1: look at politicians, what they've done in the past, what
Speaker 1: they've been accused of doing, everybody. And I just feel
Speaker 1: like I couldn't consume anything because and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that some acts aren't more heinous than others, but still,
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's the glass house thing for me.
Speaker 1: You know, throw the stones, but just remember you live
Speaker 1: in a glass house. We're all sinners, We've all made mistakes,
Speaker 1: and I'm not again, I'm not comparing, but I just
Speaker 1: try to keep that in mind, and I personally still
Speaker 1: choose to enjoy the art.
Speaker 4: You know what, I have a limit. I just realized
Speaker 4: that there are some things I don't want to name, folks,
Speaker 4: but there are some artists who have done things in
Speaker 4: particularly use the N word.
Speaker 2: Yes, I get that.
Speaker 4: That I don't make a conscious decision that I refuse.
Speaker 4: I just see the name or see the song come up.
Speaker 2: Now I know I know some of the people you're
Speaker 2: talking about. That makes that makes it perfect natural for me.
Speaker 3: Folks who have been caught doing some stuff that I.
Speaker 1: But could you like, could you stop? Would you want
Speaker 1: to watch stop? Watching Harvey Weinstein movies. I mean, where
Speaker 1: do you draw the lo There's just so many.
Speaker 3: I think that's a big thing there.
Speaker 4: So how can I I look at a name and
Speaker 4: I'm still turned off because that person is using an
Speaker 4: in word and I just doesn't work for me. But
Speaker 4: then I don't have the same reaction to a Michael
Speaker 4: Jackson or an R. Kelly song.
Speaker 3: Now why is it TJ?
Speaker 4: Somebody could fairly ask, yeah, wait, you got one problem
Speaker 4: with this one word. You won't listen to that. But
Speaker 4: these folks have been accused of some of the most
Speaker 4: heinous things you and one is in jail, so why not?
Speaker 3: So what is that that's personal me? And I don't
Speaker 3: really have an.
Speaker 2: Answer, and I don't think you have to explain.
Speaker 3: It's to explain.
Speaker 2: To myself, you know, what's something that needs explanation.
Speaker 1: And we had a lot of conversation about this NFL
Speaker 1: fan who's sued, or at least a football fan sued
Speaker 1: the NFL for one hundred million dollars because he got
Speaker 1: so upset and had so much trauma over watching Chador Sanders'
Speaker 1: NFL draft debacle happened.
Speaker 4: I wish Shaduur would respond to this would really brohad
Speaker 4: or tough night.
Speaker 2: It was hard for you? Was how hard was it
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 3: Frivolous? Right, this is what we should call. This is frivolous.
Speaker 4: But just the idea, it was so ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Look, I you know, I we both suffered. We had
Speaker 3: trauma watching this game.
Speaker 2: You had a lot of trauma.
Speaker 3: Oh we say trauma.
Speaker 2: I suggested a class action lawsuit that you could join.
Speaker 3: I will no, you know what I the suggestion. I know,
Speaker 3: I don't know how.
Speaker 4: To see this as anything other than ridiculous. And I'm
Speaker 4: trying to justify it in some way because we were
Speaker 4: We watched it, and our heart went out to that
Speaker 4: kid to see him drop, and the draft the way
Speaker 4: it did, and the way people were talking about and
Speaker 4: continue to talk about your heart hurts from it.
Speaker 2: And then the prank that it happened afterwards.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just it was just he just
Speaker 1: kept getting it was he was getting piled on and
Speaker 1: on and on.
Speaker 2: It was just it was almost too much for him.
Speaker 3: Why does anyone.
Speaker 4: Really think they're going to get a dime out of this?
Speaker 4: What is the point Why would you take the time
Speaker 4: to draft this lawsuit?
Speaker 2: Does he have a lawyer, did he do it pro se?
Speaker 1: And I just feel like, at the very least there
Speaker 1: are going to be legal costs.
Speaker 2: Incurred because of this.
Speaker 1: And that's what drives me crazy about these frivolous lawsuits.
Speaker 1: If you want to make a point, you want to
Speaker 1: make a statement, go on social media, go on TikTok.
Speaker 1: Start involving the US court system, which should be used
Speaker 1: and preserved for actual, real lawsuits, people who actually need remedy,
Speaker 1: people who actually deserve some sort of.
Speaker 2: Settlement.
Speaker 1: And I just get frustrated when I see this because
Speaker 1: it clogs our legal system and it's annoying.
Speaker 4: You know me, I always want to hear the other side.
Speaker 4: I would what could they possibly say? Or I go okay, man,
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 1: I would say, let's get him on the podcast. Except for,
Speaker 1: like most frivolous lawsuits, he filed it anonymously. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a John Doe. And that's even more annoying.
Speaker 1: I don't think you should be allowed to file an
Speaker 1: anonymous lawsuit something like this.
Speaker 2: With that amount of money. Put your name on it.
Speaker 2: That's what I would say to that.
Speaker 1: Anyone who's flying right has dealt with and we're concerned
Speaker 1: about this real ID deadline. The cool news from everything
Speaker 1: I've seen about this, because this was really concerning because
Speaker 1: we already know what the delays are like, the lines
Speaker 1: are like. When you're trying to fly now with the
Speaker 1: real ID deadline, which happened on Wednesday, you cannot go
Speaker 1: through the normal lines and the normal procedures if you
Speaker 1: don't have a star a real ID on your driver's license.
Speaker 1: I am among that group. So funny enough, the problem
Speaker 1: has been now the DMV lines. Everyone trying to get
Speaker 1: the real ID, but so far it appears in the airports.
Speaker 1: In the airlines, they actually have a separate area for
Speaker 1: people who don't have this specific ID and don't have
Speaker 1: a passport. Yeah, they've actually designated areas, and it's been
Speaker 1: reported that so far things have gone fairly smoothly. The
Speaker 1: big issue are what's happening at the local DMA. Like
Speaker 1: I looked here in New York to try and get
Speaker 1: an appointment, and all the way through August, there is
Speaker 1: not one DMV office in all of Manhattan that I
Speaker 1: can get an appointment to so far through Labor Day.
Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy. So I know we've been told
Speaker 1: about the fact that we needed to get our IDs updated, but.
Speaker 2: Nobody ever does anything until the last minute.
Speaker 3: Twenty years.
Speaker 4: Okay, you've known about this for twenty years, folks. Literally
Speaker 4: the Real Idea Act was passed in two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: But then every time I've certainly gotten my ID renewed
Speaker 1: in twenty years.
Speaker 3: You had the option for real ID, didn't you.
Speaker 2: You know what? I remember? I did?
Speaker 1: You know what? I didn't know that I had to
Speaker 1: bring some utility bill after I'd had a driver's license
Speaker 1: and a New York driver's license for twenty years, that
Speaker 1: now I suddenly had to bring a utility bill.
Speaker 3: I know that's tough.
Speaker 4: I know the internet is tough to find information out
Speaker 4: there sometimes about what you need to bring for your
Speaker 4: DMV appointment. I know it's tough. This is one I get.
Speaker 4: But this is a tough one. I'm talking issue about
Speaker 4: the rest of y'all. But the only reason I have
Speaker 4: a real idea is because I had a motorcycle license
Speaker 4: update within the past two years, so I had to
Speaker 4: get a new license with A and so they gave
Speaker 4: me a I got a new one. So yes, I'm
Speaker 4: going to settle my high real ID horse and look
Speaker 4: down at.
Speaker 3: The rest of you.
Speaker 1: But here that's fine. But here's what I don't understand
Speaker 1: this real ID. How is it any different than when
Speaker 1: I first got my first ID? Because when I first
Speaker 1: got my first driver's license at the age of sixteen,
Speaker 1: I had to show proof of residency, I had to
Speaker 1: show my birth certificate, I had to show my Social
Speaker 1: Security card. So I've done all of these things. Why
Speaker 1: do I have to now go in and repeat the process?
Speaker 3: Safety?
Speaker 4: It was supposed to be for a safety and have
Speaker 4: a uniform system across the country. And this was after
Speaker 4: nine to eleven, So this was a security measure put
Speaker 4: in place specifically to make us all uniform, make us
Speaker 4: all safer.
Speaker 1: And if it was so important after nine to eleven,
Speaker 1: ye in two thousand and one, why is it only
Speaker 1: now in twenty twenty five we're doing it, we're implementing,
Speaker 1: we're enforcing it. When for the past twenty years, what
Speaker 1: has been the Why has there not been urgency? Why
Speaker 1: is the urgency now?
Speaker 4: They just wanted to get procrastinators enough time to do it,
Speaker 4: and they thought twenty years might be enough.
Speaker 2: So apparently that's not the case.
Speaker 3: An urgency, Well, the deadline has been a place for years.
Speaker 1: My point is, if it was so urgent that the
Speaker 1: nine to eleven Commission said this is something we need
Speaker 1: to do for the safety of our airlines and our
Speaker 1: Congress air safety.
Speaker 4: Say again, congressis Congress one is?
Speaker 1: It couldn't have been that important if we could wait
Speaker 1: twenty years.
Speaker 4: We didn't wait. Things take time, didn't they. We just
Speaker 4: did a story about that they're doing improvements with the
Speaker 4: air traffic controllers.
Speaker 3: It'll be ready in three years.
Speaker 2: It won't be ready in three years. You know it won't.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, come on.
Speaker 2: Three years. That's hilarious. We should we should keep it.
Speaker 2: Update on that.
Speaker 4: Glad we can leave you on this happy note, folks
Speaker 4: here on this Saturday.
Speaker 2: Tenth oh with Analysa's birthday.
Speaker 1: Happy day, Analyse, and we got a weddingesday as well,
Speaker 1: So folks, we always appreciate you running with us.
Speaker 3: We'll give you updates on birthdays.
Speaker 2: And congratulations Madison and Jose Yes, and.
Speaker 4: Happy birthday Analyse, and folks, you'll have yourself a good weekend.
Speaker 3: We will keep running with you.
Speaker 4: We'll see you tomorrow for a Sunday.
Speaker 3: Morning run as well.
Speaker 1: Right, we certainly will have a great Saturday everybody,