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Speaker 1: And say this about listen a lot of respect for Texas.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty wide open. It actually doesn't get any more

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Speaker 1: He has matured as a coach, like he just his

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Speaker 1: Georgia always has kind of played like that. Kirby's not

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Speaker 1: of the worst Power five programs. And what Kenny Dillingham

429
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Speaker 1: inherited from Herm Edwards was an embarrassment. Think of how

430
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Speaker 1: bad Herm Edwards was. He coached at ASU for five seasons,

431
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Speaker 1: and when he got fired, ESPN immediately hires him back

432
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: and they don't have him talk about college football at all. Obviously,

433
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: he's an NFL guy, he's been an NFL coach. I

434
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Speaker 1: get it's like he should be able to talk about

435
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Speaker 1: the NFL two, but he literally had just coached in

436
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: Power five for five seasons, and it's like, as someone

437
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: told me a while back, that like, yeah, I don't

438
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: even think Herm would be able to tell you half

439
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: his team's first name. So the program was in shambles.

440
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: Dillingham takes over. They go three and nine, They have

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Speaker 1: no nil money. It's a program that no one really

442
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: cares about. And then this season to win the conference,

443
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: when you go to the Big Twelve and you're pick

444
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: to finish last, it's just an incredible accomplishment. And nothing

445
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: sums up football more than Cam Skataboo, the running back

446
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: who if it wasn't for Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders

447
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: would be the player of the year in the Big Twelve.

448
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: And just as an incredible story. And I think it's

449
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: kind of symbolizes why football resonates with so many people.

450
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: He had zero stars coming out of high school. Zero stars.

451
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Speaker 1: I looked up his junior year in high school. He

452
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: played in Sacramento Atrial Linda. It's a small little school.

453
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Speaker 1: He had three hundred or thirty five hundred yards and

454
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Speaker 1: forty two touchdowns. I don't know if he got injured

455
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: or something happened a senior in high school, but he

456
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: wasn't as productive his junior in high school. Looks like

457
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry in high school. Then he goes to Sack

458
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Speaker 1: State for a couple of years. And while he's at

459
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: Sack State, they have the greatest year in the history

460
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Speaker 1: of the program. They go to the playoffs, Troy Taylor,

461
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 1: their head coach, becomes the head coach at Stanford, and

462
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: he clearly goes in the transfer portal, one of the

463
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: better transfer portal guys goes to Arizona State, and two

464
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Speaker 1: years later, I mean today he looked like Mike Alstott

465
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Speaker 1: meets Walter Payton. He looked and he's looked like this

466
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: all season, but today he had a couple runs of

467
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Speaker 1: just breaking tackles and running through guys and making guys miss.

468
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: You know, they said the running back was dead, and

469
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Speaker 1: I'm guilty of this too. I thought so the running

470
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Speaker 1: back bounce back and relevancy and importance is undeniable. Right now.

471
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Speaker 1: The amount of top one hundred players in college football

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Speaker 1: that are going to get drafted, like meaning the top

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Speaker 1: one hundred picks of the draft, there might be ten

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Speaker 1: plus running backs. And we saw two guys Arizona State

475
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Speaker 1: and Boise State. Those teams are gonna have buys. If

476
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be Oregon, Georgia, Arizona State, and Boise or

477
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Speaker 1: Boise Arizona State, I would put Arizona State three and

478
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Speaker 1: Boise four. They are led by two running backs. You

479
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Speaker 1: remove those two running backs and just put an average

480
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Speaker 1: college running back. Neither one of those two teams sniffs

481
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs obviously, action Genty, I don't know if they're

482
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Speaker 1: gonna count playoff games on your record. They usually do

483
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: because bowl games typically count. You know, this isn't like

484
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: the NFL, where regular season separate from playoffs. It usually

485
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: accounts under one umbrella. Maybe they've made changes to it

486
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: so you know if he wins, If if Boise State

487
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: were to win a playoff game, maybe Genty could catch

488
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders for a single season rushing. Those two guys

489
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: are incredible players to watch. I mean, my personal favorite

490
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: position on offense is running back more thanquarter back, more

491
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: than the left tackle, more than tight end or wide receiver,

492
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: because no position encapsulates football more than that. You have

493
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: to block middle linebackers, pass rushers inside and out. In

494
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: pass protection, you literally are the last line of defense

495
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: for the guy protecting the quarterback. You then have to

496
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: catch the ball like a wide receiver. Most of your

497
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: routes are going to be around the line of scrimmage,

498
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: but they send you on some wheel routes where you

499
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: kind of go up the field. You have to have

500
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Speaker 1: good hands, especially in twenty twenty four, and then you

501
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: have to run the ball inside where there are three

502
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Speaker 1: or four three hundred plus pounders sitting there as well

503
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Speaker 1: as linebackers multiple five six yards behind the line of

504
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: scrimmage running full speed at you, as well as a

505
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Speaker 1: couple of safeties, and go outside where you are attempting

506
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Speaker 1: to run by some of the fastest guys on the

507
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Speaker 1: football field, and you watch these two guys as just

508
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: it's football porn. I mean, it really is skataboo. I mean,

509
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: he's he's a fucking baller, and gent's just an all

510
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: time great college player. I mean, he's going to go

511
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Speaker 1: down as probably the best player in the history of

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Speaker 1: his program. You know, if he was bigger, we'd be

513
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Speaker 1: in discussion for him to be like a top ten pick.

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Speaker 1: He's five to eight, so he's one of the best

515
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: college players in recent memory. But when you're five to eight,

516
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: how high can you really go in the draft? Someone's

517
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Speaker 1: going to take a five eight running back at pick twelve,

518
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: like that seems a little high to me. I think

519
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: when the dust seedtles, I have heard this draft isn't great,

520
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: but I would say my guess is somewhere like twenty

521
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: to twenty eight in that range just because he's small.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to make a you know,

523
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Speaker 1: living off drafting five eight guys in the first round,

524
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Speaker 1: even though he's clearly a great player and ASU's running back.

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Speaker 1: My guest is Washington play up to see what he

526
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: runs and injury history and stuff. But third, fourth round.

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Speaker 1: But those guys are just elite college players. And you

528
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: know the thing with Boise, this is not Boise's best team.

529
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: I started in football in the whack at fresident State.

530
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Speaker 1: The teams that in two thousand, the year before I

531
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Speaker 1: got there was the year they beat Oklahoma in the

532
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Speaker 1: Chris Peterson Statue of Liberty Game, And a couple of

533
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: years later they have a team that has ten guys drafted,

534
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Speaker 1: led by Kellen Moore at quarterback. I mean, he wasn't

535
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Speaker 1: their best NFL prospect. I actually don't think Kellen Moore

536
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Speaker 1: even got drafted. Maybe won the seventh round. But they

537
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: had a team full of NFL guys. And this team

538
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: is not as good as those teams. But the program

539
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: is pretty special. Since basically nineteen ninety nine, they averaged

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00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: like ten wins the season, and they have a ton

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Speaker 1: of twelve and thirteen wins seasons, Like when they win

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00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: eight or nine games in a year, it's kind of

543
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 1: an outlier season. This program, for non Power four Slash

544
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: five has easily been the most consistent in the country,

545
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: and they have produced the most coaching talent. I mean

546
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 1: Sarks defensive coordinator, where's he from Boise State? And you

547
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: just look all over college football. They have assistant coaches

548
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: from Boise State obviously Kellen Moore with the Eagles, Poise

549
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: State guy, And it was a think tank of just

550
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: high level coaching, high level football, and I think it's

551
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: really cool. You know, in the ASU situation, are they

552
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: going to maintain this year after year? They got pretty lucky.

553
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: They got a great transfer running back from Sack State

554
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: in the transfer portal. It's one of those that like

555
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: sometimes you're going to strike oil, but how often does

556
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: that happen? Like the likelihood if everyone knew he was

557
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: going to be that good, other programs would have been

558
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: all over them, because it's not like ASU has any money.

559
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Everyone last year knew gent was elite when they fired

560
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: their coach, I think with a couple of games left

561
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: to go in the season, GENT was gonna hit the

562
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: transfer Portal, and I think technically he did. And I

563
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: read this long article, like he had seven figure offers,

564
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: so it's not hard to figure out who was probably interested.

565
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: The Oregons, the SCS, the Texas's, the Ohio States, like

566
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: those type teams were sniffing around that player, and he

567
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: stayed at Boise State for three hundred thousand dollars. Now

568
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: I think he got other deals included, but that's the

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Speaker 1: only amount, Like that's the most amount of cash they

570
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: could guarantee him, and he single handedly just I mean,

571
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: it's not all him. It's a team game, but like,

572
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: let's face it, like he's kind of Steph Curry Davison,

573
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Like that's what he is. And that's the cool part

574
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: about this playoffs is like I'm not a huge proponent

575
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: of these guys should automatically get a non power for spot,

576
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: but as Stucky and I have talked about it, it's

577
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: clear they're doing it for lawsuits. No one wants to

578
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: get sued. But I think if you are going to

579
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: allow one of these smaller schools into the playoffs, it's

580
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: very cool when their best player is like a first

581
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: round draft pick who plays running back, who they want

582
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: to hand the ball to I think on UNLV Friday

583
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: night he had like thirty carries. Now he had two

584
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: hundred yards, but his handed to him not to stop.

585
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's like here here, here, here, here, and

586
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: eventually he's gonna break when and last night he did.

587
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: He made a guy miss boom on the right side

588
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: up the sideline. He going. And what a fun college

589
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: football season. And I'm excited for these playoffs because I

590
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: think if today showed anything, if weekend week out has

591
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: shown anything, everything's on the table and the transfer portal,

592
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: the nil I would say, the spreading of the high

593
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: end assets, which are the players, the lack of depth

594
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: for some of these teams, anything can happen. And from

595
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: a gambling standpoint, whenever they come out with the brackets,

596
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, if you tell me the seventh seed ends

597
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: up winning it, you know, I think it's gonna believable.

598
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: I think any team in the dance. I don't think

599
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: Boise could win four games, but I think any of

600
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: the big programs, you know, Tennessee, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Georgia's, Texas, obviously,

601
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: Oregon like on they can win any game. But as

602
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: we've seen, like all of them get weird. All of

603
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: them get weird fast. It's hard to trust these teams

604
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: on a weekend, week out basis, which makes for a

605
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: very very entertaining product. So I'm really excited if you

606
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: had a chance to see the clip of the committee

607
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: in the hotel room with little ass TVs. It's like, guys,

608
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: you cannot be the committee that determines the college football

609
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: playoffs with thirty inch televisions. I get you're, you know,

610
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: at some four Seasons or JW. Marriott. They have to

611
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: be able to go to Costco and buy four eighty

612
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: inch TVs and put them there. I mean, some of

613
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: these people in the committee are like seventy years old

614
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: and they're sitting twenty five feet back. It's like, I'm forty.

615
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: I couldn't see. Granted, I think, you know, as the

616
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: doctor told me a couple weeks ago, I might need

617
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: glasses for some long you know, long range vision. But still,

618
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: like you, guys, I can't take you seriously that you

619
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Speaker 1: are determining the ranking system with thirty inch TVs in there. Now.

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Speaker 1: I think there had one TV that was like fifty

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Speaker 1: but it looked like something I would have had, like

622
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: when I was a sophomore in college at a house

623
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: that probably should have been burned down, and we all

624
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: moved out a couple of years later because like any

625
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: college house, uh, we do a number on it. But

626
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: the television set up in that room was just an

627
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: absolute embarrassment. So what a day for college football. And

628
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Speaker 1: now we go to bed and we wake up in

629
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: a couple hours and we watched NFL football. So it's

630
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Speaker 1: coming down the home stretch. Baby, buckle up, have a

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Speaker 1: good night. See the volume