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Speaker 3: All right, So, the Dallas Cowboys getting ready for a

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Speaker 3: Monday night matchup with the Cincinnati Bengals, trying to go

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Speaker 3: back to back in terms of wins at Jerry Rold

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Speaker 3: and trying to win three in a row. They faced

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, who is on a four and eighteen, but

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Speaker 3: he is a quarterback. Joe's having a good Joe's a

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Speaker 3: good quarterback. Joe's one of the more elite quarterbacks in

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Speaker 3: this league, might.

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Speaker 2: Be Yeah, And they have a great offense and have

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Speaker 2: great receivers, and so this is something that you know,

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Speaker 2: everybody looked at. If this streak is real, if this

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Speaker 2: is momentimum is real, beat the fourd eight Bengals and

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Speaker 2: then they say, oh, that's just the four eight Bengals,

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Speaker 2: but Bingle favored by six to four day Bengals. They

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Speaker 2: got a big offense, you know, but we also remember

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Speaker 2: a couple of Russia's beating Joe Burrow before. We also

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Speaker 2: remember and as Jamar Chay says, putting on social media

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Speaker 2: put out this week, Trevor on Diggs shut him down

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Speaker 2: the last time they played each other. He still has

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Speaker 2: nightmares about Trevor on Diggs shutting him down. If Cowboys

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Speaker 2: have a chance, certainly, I think Trevon Diggs coming back,

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Speaker 2: if he's ready to play from that growing injury, teaming

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Speaker 2: with Bland will be your best tandem that this Bengals

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Speaker 2: offense is face as far as cornerbacks concerning, and you

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Speaker 2: look at the Bingos office. They score a lot of points.

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Speaker 2: They don't protect well, they do not you know, so

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Speaker 2: I can get to the quarterback. The Cowboys have a chance,

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Speaker 2: but close it's you know, it's on that defense. Uh

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Speaker 2: But what people the dirty little secret about the Mingos

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Speaker 2: that people don't want to talk about it they get

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Speaker 2: so caught up into the great season. Joe Burrow is having,

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Speaker 2: the great season Jamar Chase is having and the explosion

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Speaker 2: they score on all these points, they're four and eight

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Speaker 2: because they give up a lot of points. Their defense

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Speaker 2: gets gassed. I mean, and we're talking Pittsburgh with a

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Speaker 2: basically a pedestrian offense scored over forty on you know,

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Speaker 2: they they give it up. And I'm not saying Cooper

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Speaker 2: Rush is gonna you know, pass for four hundred yards,

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Speaker 2: but you know you can run. You know, the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: can continue to get something from Rico o'dado and and

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Speaker 2: control the ball, make some time to play play good defense.

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Speaker 4: They got a chance, you know, and and and really.

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Speaker 2: That that that don't put some substance in this talk

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Speaker 2: about you know, we're gonna finish our strong. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get build this momentum. Yeah, you you beat Washington and

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Speaker 2: you beat a bad Giant team.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're really saying something.

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Speaker 2: I know they've been of the four and eight, but

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Speaker 2: you can carry that momentium the Monday night and beat

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Speaker 2: the Bengals. And it certainly has gonna be a lot

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Speaker 2: to do with who's coming back from injury and uh,

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Speaker 2: the Zach Martin could be back. Uh, certainly. I think

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Speaker 2: see the Lamb get more healthy.

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Speaker 4: Uh, certainly.

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Speaker 2: I talked about the Cowboys hope that you can get

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Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson certainly should be back. I've commissioned two to

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Speaker 2: a concussion. Uh. So what we've seen from them, plus

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Speaker 2: it's a been a shot off of the Cowboys going

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Speaker 3: The Bengals are having a tough season right now, and

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Speaker 3: they've been in some games that against Pittsburgh, they were

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Speaker 3: in the game. Baltimore, you were in the game. So

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Speaker 3: this is not a team that's four and eight and

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Speaker 3: it's laying six. Vegas says Bengals by six in this game.

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Speaker 3: That's a big number.

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Speaker 2: It's a big number because you've seen, Let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: you know, before the Washington game, the Cowboys played a

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Speaker 2: competent offense. So they've they've gotten you know, those those

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Speaker 2: offensive scored a lot of points. You know. But I

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Speaker 2: but you often believe that if you believe the defense improved,

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Speaker 2: has been back. They run the game. You know, that's

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Speaker 2: where the Cowboys bleed. But yeah, when they've played offenses

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Speaker 2: like the Giants don't have an offense.

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Speaker 3: And for me, you're right, obviously, since as got an offense,

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Speaker 3: this is where the Cowboys offense needs to run the football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, you got to control the clock, keephim out,

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Speaker 3: Yes, so they've got to They've got to get the

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Speaker 3: They they've got to do that, Zekie Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Why are you bringing this up? With all due respect,

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Speaker 2: Zeke is not the running back. Ricos the running Rico

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Speaker 2: the you know, the bell cow He's the guys gonna

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Speaker 3: Because my we're now in December here, this is this

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Speaker 3: are these are the last games you think we'll see

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Speaker 3: em Ezekiel in the Cowboy uniform right now?

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean the cast at the dives

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Speaker 4: Deal, you know, and the fact that he's not playing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what is what I mean, what is understood

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Speaker 4: I mean, we understand that.

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Speaker 3: I was watching the sounds that they do the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: He oh yeah, oh yeah yeah. But you're saying that

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Speaker 2: You're saying that because of you know who where he

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Speaker 2: But this season, I think the Cowboys messed up this

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Speaker 2: You know, we talked to the coaches on Monday. You know,

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Speaker 2: why did it take y'all so long to commit to

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Speaker 2: don't think he was the workhorse back in college. Certainly

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Speaker 2: you know, you see yet a guy runs hard and

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Speaker 2: like fifteen twenty care You don't know game after game,

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Speaker 2: he's never had to his body's never had to handle

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Speaker 2: So they were smart by saying we just not we

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Speaker 2: don't know that he can do that, and so let's

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Speaker 2: go with the committee thing because he's never been the

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Speaker 2: now we see that he has gotten better as the

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter as we saw against the Giants when

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Speaker 3: That's traditionally what good running backs do. Feed them and

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Speaker 3: then eventually they're gonna lean on you and lean on

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Speaker 3: you and they'll break through. But what I was leading

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Speaker 3: to ultimately when I sprought up Ezekie Elliot is I

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Speaker 3: had a conversation with somebody earlier this week and they said,

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Speaker 3: And I said, he has not accomplished enough in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: But when I think about the Cowboys Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we do that. Why do we do that?

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Speaker 2: Why do people do that? Why why people do that? Well,

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Speaker 2: Jared Jared Jones has made it. I mean, it's not you,

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Speaker 2: but people. People. Jared Jones has made it clear that

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Speaker 2: his Hall of Fame candidates, Hall of Fame boards, and players.

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Speaker 4: Meverison Wall wasn't even ringa bar.

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Speaker 2: He should be, you know, but he only wants and

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Speaker 2: he put Woodson in because he want you know, but

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Speaker 2: gonna get tested because they're gonna put Tony Rumo in.

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Speaker 4: No, he shouldn't, but you're brought up Zeke okay.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just saying that was brought to me and

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Speaker 2: not gonna holding the tire any all time rushing died

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Speaker 2: there's a comman because Whitney probably going in you know

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Speaker 2: where's in, you know, and and and you know there's

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Speaker 2: you know, whether you and the same thing with Dez Brian.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people who want their deaths to go in.

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Speaker 2: And and I don't think des is going in, and

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Speaker 2: so I think de is in the same conversation with Zeke,

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Speaker 2: you know, in that respect, you know, and and and

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of guys you know, you think

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Speaker 3: Smith, Tyron Smith. Okay, if I'm thinking in terms of

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Speaker 3: and this is just me not counting the Landry guys,

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Speaker 3: because Everson Walls, Harvey Martin, you know the guy. Those

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Speaker 3: those are three guys I think about. Boom should be in.

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Speaker 3: Most people win a Super Bowl MVP, get in. Harvey

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Speaker 3: Martin is the Super Bowl MVP. He's not in. Larry

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Speaker 3: Brown's Super Bowl MVP, He's not in. But when I

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Speaker 3: it's the next one to get in.

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Speaker 4: Then after that, I mean Travis not getting in.

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Speaker 2: No should he Well, I'm just saying, but he has

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Speaker 2: as many Pro Bowls, all pros as he got.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I shouldn't get in. But I would say Jason Witten,

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Speaker 2: Never did, never did, They never did nothing of the

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Speaker 3: There wasn't one right, just one.

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Speaker 2: They have not won any national titles in nineteen thirty nine.

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Speaker 3: I picked Texas.

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Speaker 2: We're a good road team. We've shown we went up

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, walk in your trap and take your trap.

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Speaker 3: Spiders. We were talking about, you know, the.

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Speaker 4: Were walking in their trap and take in their trap.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: See I'm trying to you know, like Chris, Chris didn't

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Speaker 3: No, I got, I got, I got Texas going sark

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Speaker 2: Those let's to see officials helped them. They they called

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Speaker 4: They were in and and they in Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: One reason why Nebraska left because they got Maga's Texas

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Speaker 3: But George is not leaving. So George is not leaving.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm gonna go with your boys. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with your boys to go ahead and win.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I got you, I appreciate you, I got you.

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Speaker 3: I picked them last week. I'm gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 3: to you guys. Is your your your long horns, go

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Speaker 2: because listen. We love. Part of the momentum is you

434
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Speaker 2: see young guys do things you didn't expect them to do.

435
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: And you know, we talked about the running game and

436
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: how well Rico played it was partly due because of

437
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Speaker 2: the office line and then things that were doing up

438
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: fun and then Bark Copplain was part of that and

439
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: he's nasty and people get fired up about that. And

440
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: that's our future, you know, and yeah, it could be

441
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: your future. You know, you're still trying to put the

442
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: best people on the field to win games now. And

443
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: Zach Martin has not had his best season. He's been

444
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Speaker 2: in the last few weeks and he's certainly even before

445
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: he missed a couple of games, he's been injured and

446
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: hobbled and and so there's this start process where he's hurt.

447
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: Then maybe you go with the backup. Okay, who is

448
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: healthy and full.

449
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Speaker 3: Of vinegar and that other thing.

450
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Speaker 2: Can we say that I ain't gonna say that other thing? Yeah, extra, yeah,

451
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 2: that that stuff in vinegar. Yeah, full of that stuff

452
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: and so and it's and it's good and it brings

453
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Speaker 2: some fire to the line. But if Martin is healthy

454
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Speaker 2: and he's ready to go, he is better than brock Offlin.

455
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Speaker 2: And you want your best players on the field. You know,

456
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: it's not about we well he's gonna be gone and

457
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Speaker 2: we need block for next ye know, it's about doing

458
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Speaker 2: the right thing and doing what's best to win games. Now.

459
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Speaker 3: You want to win, You're trying to you're trying to

460
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Speaker 3: make December is.

461
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Speaker 2: An opportunity and brockets showing you stuff that, Yeah, he

462
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Speaker 2: could be in the conversation for next He's already shown you.

463
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Speaker 2: You don't need to force him on the field in

464
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Speaker 2: front of someone that's better if he's healthy to do

465
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Speaker 2: that and to you know, make that substantial. You know,

466
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: you you you it's it's it's already there. And so

467
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Speaker 2: we'll see. You know, Zach is going to try to

468
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Speaker 2: practice this week and we'll see if he's ready to

469
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Speaker 2: go and good to go. And yeah, it's it's a conversation.

470
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Speaker 2: I think it's a disrespectful conversation based on Zach's career.

471
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Speaker 2: You know, I was talking to Marcus Lawrence last week

472
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Speaker 2: and I said the same thing with Zach, because Calvin

473
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: has talked about the same numb people. Well, he should

474
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: just quit, he should just why why? Yeah, why does

475
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: he want to play. You know, the season is over

476
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: and he's hurt, he should want to and and and

477
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: and Lawrence said, I'm not going out in.

478
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Speaker 4: Okay. And what people don't understand.

479
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Speaker 2: I think it's that it's media types and people never

480
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: been worried, never been on the field. And if this

481
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Speaker 2: is his last year, I don't care what the record is.

482
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Speaker 2: I don't care what it looks like. Okay, I'm a

483
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Speaker 2: football player. Okay, this is what I do, this is

484
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Speaker 2: what I love to do. This is what I've done

485
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Speaker 2: all my life. And if these are my last days,

486
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: if these on my last games, I want to be

487
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Speaker 2: on the field. I'm not going to say what I'm

488
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: hurt and the season's over and so I'm just gonna

489
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: sit out and call it a day. If I can go.

490
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: That's not their mentality. That's not Zack Martin's mentality. You know,

491
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Speaker 2: if I'm healthy, ready to go and I can play,

492
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Speaker 2: I don't care what the record, They don't care what

493
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Speaker 2: the score is. This might be the last time I

494
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Speaker 2: put on a uniform. I don't want it to be

495
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Speaker 2: because I limped off the field. I want to be

496
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Speaker 2: able to walk off the field and savor these moments.

497
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Speaker 3: I go back to what Bill Parcels you say. When

498
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: he was here, he said, this is my life's work. Yeah,

499
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Speaker 3: and that's the same for these places. It's their life's work.

500
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 3: So you know, just just put on a ball cap

501
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: and a T shirt and not play and just write it.

502
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Speaker 3: That's not what they want to do. No play with all.

503
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Speaker 2: Right, if you have a choice. Now, if you don't

504
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: have a choice, that's different, right, and then you can

505
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: look at the memories. But if I have a choice

506
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: and I can still go and play, I want to

507
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: milk the moments as long as I can milk this time,

508
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: the time in the locker room, been with all of

509
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: that stuff is important to them because we see all

510
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: these guys who the game was taking. Well, listen, the

511
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 2: NFL is a dirty game. It's a nasty game. As

512
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: Dion said a long time when and I made this remark,

513
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: dirty game last week. The game don't love you back. Okay,

514
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: it don't love you back. Okay, Uh, you can love

515
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: the game, it don't love you back. And I made

516
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Speaker 2: the remark because of one year Thomas and Josh Ball

517
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Speaker 2: or Josha Butler got hurt on great heartwarming stories. Okay, yes,

518
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Speaker 2: great stories of a week ago, you know, and the

519
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Speaker 2: win over Washington great stories and they got all the

520
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Speaker 2: claim and all the love, and just four days later,

521
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: Josh Butler says the torn the seal, y're over curric

522
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Speaker 2: could be off because these are you know, this is

523
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Speaker 2: the first ever played. He's an older player.

524
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Speaker 4: We don't know what the future holds for him.

525
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: Josh Butler stuff of the knee injury. He should be back,

526
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: he should be okay, he's gonna be out a few weeks.

527
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: But you know, it's a.

528
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: Cruel game, and you don't know when it's your last

529
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: turn to play, you know, And so to sit up

530
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Speaker 2: here and just be dismissive about these moments, of these opportunities,

531
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Speaker 2: even for a guy like Zack Martin say he should

532
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Speaker 2: just sit down because he's you know, it's just last now.

533
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: You can't you don't do that, you know, and you

534
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: can't do that because you know, and so you get it.

535
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: Like I said, the game don't love you back. You're

536
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 2: gonna love the game. It's a cruel game. You know.

537
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: This is not how Zack Martin envisioned when he held

538
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: down last year and took that money from Jerry and

539
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: made Jerry pay him and he's not had two good seasons,

540
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: so I mean part of him wants to, you know

541
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: again play.

542
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: Also on the offensive line, we saw Tyler Goeydon battling

543
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: interest for the last couple of weeks. Here, what do

544
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 3: we know right now as he gets ready for Monday

545
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: night against the Bengals.

546
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 2: You know, he's gonna be in the rehab group. And

547
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: that's what coach told his the other day. And and

548
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: and Tuma Dooga probably will most likely get the start,

549
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: I believe, you know. And and you know Jerry said

550
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: on the radio day he was replaced the other night.

551
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: You know he's but we still believe in the future.

552
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 2: Uh So, Yeah, he's had it up and down seas

553
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: that has been injured a lot, you know, And and

554
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: there's no reason to force him back, you know, uh,

555
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: make sure it gets healthy. And you know, you got

556
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: five games left, and you know Austin Richards is now hurt,

557
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: you know, And and so you've got to go with

558
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: more doga and and and and some uh and he'll

559
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: probably be part of that rotation if he can be

560
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: ready enough to play. But I don't think there will

561
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: be any drop off based on how he's played and

562
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: what he's done at the experienced level, if you have

563
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Speaker 2: to go with doga.

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Speaker 3: It's been a it's been a smorga sport for the

565
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: Cowboys in the offensive line all year long. I don't

566
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: know how many people just have paid that much attention,

567
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: but it has been. It's been an issue. Last year

568
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: they had some of that, but they were able to

569
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: make it work. This year it's been a lot tougher

570
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: and a major part of that is because Zach Martin,

571
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Speaker 3: who for years at that right guard spot, no matter

572
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: what happened, you could depend on him, and he's battled

573
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Speaker 3: injuries this year and it's been a challenge for him.

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Speaker 3: But that's one thing for the Cowboys. If they win,

575
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: they can win against Cincinnati. They need to really establish

576
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577
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578
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Speaker 3: happen for them to win this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and certainly make plays on defense when you

580
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581
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582
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648
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Speaker 2: to go deep in the playoffs, probably the super Bowl

649
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: for it to be successful, because no one was happy

650
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: what tore them five and won and done. So there's

651
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: no way you can be happy not even making the

652
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: playoffs and having a losing record, even though your team

653
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: fights and never gave up and all that good stuff.

654
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: There's no way it could be considered a success. Regarding

655
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: the positivity, only Jerry could even look put it in

656
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: these words. But they said, ask them, can you carry

657
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: the momentum of what you're seeing right now into next year?

658
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, you can carry the momentum over.

659
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: It's like you can carry some negative momentum over. And

660
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: we carried the losing from green Bay over to this year.

661
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: That was a shot in the solar plexus.

662
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: Did he lie?

663
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: He didn't lie, He didn't, but he didn't tell the

664
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: full truth.

665
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: What role that ownership play and not carry and carrying

666
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: momentum from green Bay over? Yes, by not improving the

667
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: team and by letting guys go, he didn't jum. You know,

668
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: you just can't say we carried momentium from green Bay

669
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: over because we had a yeah, you know, because you

670
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: didn't help them build on that momentum. Or negative change

671
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: that momentum by improving the team.

672
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: You're all in was different than everyone else's perception of

673
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 3: all in.

674
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not on y'all in different.

675
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: You know, you didn't bring nobody but you you suffered

676
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: significant losses and significant losses to depth, and you didn't

677
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: go out and shore those up, and then you waited

678
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: until the end of training camp to show some of

679
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: that stuff up. Then you waited in the training camp

680
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: to sign your guys. So the environment there was part

681
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: of the environment that you created that helped continue that

682
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: negative momentum what I'm saying, and so you don't say that,

683
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: but it's only you know, But so we're talking about

684
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: the positivity, you're going to throw a shot with the

685
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: negativity of you know, bringing over the momentium green Bay.

686
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 3: Look, the end of the season, the Cowboys are at Philadelphia

687
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: and then they're at home against Washington, so two division

688
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: games here, and.

689
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: Well that's why this Green Bay game is important. You know,

690
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm not green Bay, excuse me. Cincinnati Cincinnati game is important,

691
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: you know, because if you beat Cincinnati, you have a

692
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: chance to beat Carolina and possibly Tampa, and then you

693
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: got those final two games. They're back. It was funny

694
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: to me because I I I I want to see

695
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: the chaos. I want to see the conflicted Cowboy fan.

696
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: You you fans out there, they were talking tank and

697
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: we need to take to lose and get a Todd

698
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 2: draft pick. And I know as a fan, that sounds

699
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: logical because it's you know, because only rad you'll really

700
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: get the super Bowl, get the best players, and you're

701
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: hire to pick journal you get the best player, and

702
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: you can do something with maybe trade down to get

703
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: multiple picks, a lot of things you can do it. It

704
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: sounds fun sounds good when the season lost. But let

705
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: the Cowboys go on a three or four or five

706
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: game winning streak. The fanning, you're gonna be excited, the fanner,

707
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna.

708
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 4: Like I know, I want to draft pick, but I

709
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: do like winning.

710
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be you.

711
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: Know, and so you're gonna be convicted, you know, because

712
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: you're gonna feel good about your team winning, not being

713
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: a lap of stock. Ultimate at the end of the day,

714
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: most like, even if you somehow get to nine and

715
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: eight or ten and seven, it's gonna be one done again.

716
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not enough here.

717
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: I don't think that you can make the playoffs, or

718
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: even if you get the playoff, which is still they

719
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: I think you got like a four percent shot of

720
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: getting to the playoffs right now that you can do

721
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: something the playoffs, but they will.

722
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: Be convicted and you'll feel good and then you'll be back.

723
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: But we had the same but it was.

724
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: The last couple years not able to take the next step.

725
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

726
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: No, onhere close to the super Bowl.

727
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: Which is where Mike McCarthy is. And I had a

728
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: conversation with somebody earlier this week and I said, you

729
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: know when Jerry talked about well he sees the where

730
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: there's a scenario where Mike could be brought back if

731
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: your Mike's agent and your nego Shane with Jerry gonna

732
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: want four years. And I said, and then somebody, well,

733
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: well if you just bring him back a year, just

734
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: call Hi mulligan and bring him back for one year.

735
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: I said, so one year? I said, what coach would

736
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: want to sign up for one year? And the coaching

737
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: staff and wantuf just for one more year? Like that's

738
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: just really not done, I said, would be a minimum

739
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 3: a two year deal.

740
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: But it's good enough. So so say you come back

741
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: for one year, if you want, and I nothing what

742
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: surprise me because Mike's family, kids loved living here, you know,

743
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: so that would be the case. I think that, listen.

744
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: I think Mike has done a great job. I don't

745
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: think he's got enough credit for the twin five five five.

746
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: He's not credit when they went twin five losing Dack

747
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: for five games one year. You know, I think he's

748
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: done a good job magic him out that he's never

749
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: lost his team. But Jerry Jones said everything he need

750
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: to say last year when he gave him extension after

751
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: twelve and five, twelve and five and twenty five, and

752
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: you made it coming to the season what they charged

753
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: to do better and you don't do better. And so

754
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can spin it to the

755
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: fans of a contract extension. I just don't know how

756
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: you can do that, you know. And that's based on

757
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: Jerry's body It's not me, it's not Clary's Jille talking.

758
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: That's just on the body language and what you've done

759
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: because you didn't give him a contract extension after twelve

760
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 2: and five.

761
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: You know, how do you justify it?

762
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: No matter how they're ta Yeah, even though you as

763
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: a general manager were not GMing enough to help them.

764
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

765
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you justified and how you

766
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: sell that to the fan base, but yeah, I mean

767
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: Mike would want to stay here as long as he can.

768
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: I think he really likes it. I think his family

769
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: really likes it. If it's one year of multi year

770
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: I mean, but yeah, you look at all of that,

771
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: but it's it's gonna be interesting.

772
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: Uh again, that's that's Jerry talk.

773
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 2: Jerry was also asked today about Overshaw, and Overshawn tweeted

774
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: the other day either I'm gonna get number zero and

775
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: off season or I'm gonna get it in my next contract.

776
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: He gonna get zero at some point, and there's been

777
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: He was agent zero a Texas. He wore zero and

778
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: he had not did not get zero here because Rowdy

779
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: wears zero, Rowdy wears zero, Roddy wears double zero.

780
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 4: How about that and jim Otto number got it.

781
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he wants zero and the Cowboys won't give

782
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: him zero, at least they have not done that yet,

783
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: and he clearly wont. Like I said, after his brilliant game,

784
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: great game against the Giants and showing athleticism, and you

785
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: know everybody talks about him being potentially a pro bow

786
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: all pro type player. If you listen to the sounds

787
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: of the sidelines, you can hear I love the part

788
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: of he and Kendrick's talking, yes, and Kendrick he's thank you. Yeah,

789
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: they're about the fir, but he's talking later in the show,

790
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 2: they're talking about Kendrick is telling him how great player

791
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: it can be, how much how good he can be,

792
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: and just he needs to keep his head down and

793
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: keep working. And he said, I love you, bro, you know,

794
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: thanks God, I thank you for you and what you're

795
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: done for Man. It was just a great big bro,

796
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: little bro conversation. It's just that's what brotherhood is about.

797
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 2: And so you know, there are a lot of people

798
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: who love Overshawn. He's gonna be off. You know, everything

799
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: you say about Michael's lack of leadership, overshaw has he

800
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: oozes it and he's gonna be a next leader on

801
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: this team. You know, just talk to the coaches. He

802
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: just enjoys showing up. He enjoys being in the building.

803
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: He is a soak, he's a sponge. He soaks up everything,

804
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: you know, so they really like everything about him. They

805
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: call him cowboy with a cowboy ass. He's heard to

806
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: call him cowboy.

807
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: He just he's a Texas, not just along, but it's

808
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 4: a text.

809
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: He's a Texan. He just built for this. This is

810
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: just like it's made for him, and so everybody wants

811
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: him now zero and you know, so he was asking

812
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: the read Jerry was asking ready today about y'all gonna

813
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: get Overshong Zero, you're gonna keep Roddy in the Jared

814
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: never asked the question. Jerry started telling Rowdy stories deflection

815
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: about the old Rowdy, the original riding one of my

816
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: favorite ritters. I know the man inside the costume. Yes,

817
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: very well, good dude who works in another franchise in

818
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: Dallas and his resurrected his career to getting fired as Rowdy.

819
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 2: Why was he fired as rowdy?

820
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: Let's not do that to my man.

821
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: We haven't talked. We ain't said no name. We talked

822
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: about Roddy, but Jerry talked about it.

823
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: By the way, I forgot to bring I teased it.

824
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: So let me deliver on this before he ride out

825
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: of time. Michael Parsons, Michael Parsons.

826
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: We're we're just gonna let rite it go. We don't

827
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: let you Rudy band. The script club go we left

828
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: it out of man, Michael Parkson and everybody with water

829
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: bottles and are.

830
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: You are you going to get on the Michael Parson's podcast,

831
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: And Michael Parsons had a couple more sacks, Michael Hartson

832
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: trying to get to that ten TAC digit. Did he

833
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 3: find you after the game?

834
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh yeah, he found He's been calling for

835
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: me and and certain he's actually lobbying because he thinks

836
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: Donald got one of his sacks or half a sack.

837
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: He thinks he needs to get to he'll get at

838
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: least he wanted to send it into the league. I

839
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: think Mike Mike Caparson with he came back from injury

840
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: after missing four games, he had one sack.

841
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: Now he had six and a half. And I asked

842
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: him a.

843
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: Couple weeks ago, Mike, you know, Michael, you're feeling good

844
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: about the season, feeling good? How you how you guys

845
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: are gonna come back? And I think he had three

846
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: or four at the time. I said, you know you're

847
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: you're double. Did the sack streak, Mike en he might

848
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: end he's at least thirteen sacks in each of his

849
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: first three seasons. Okay, he's one of the most the

850
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: leading sackers through three years of his career anybody in

851
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: the history. He's like top three or four, you know,

852
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 2: and that double did the sack streak's question, you know,

853
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: it sort of looked on the brink of extinction a

854
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. But he's gone on a tear,

855
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: you know, and he's been part of and it's not

856
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: just been a solo tear. It's not been just he

857
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: hunted for sacks himself. It's been part of the improvement

858
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: of the defense. And so he's played very well, sacks, pressures, everything,

859
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: played very well last few weeks.

860
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: And the numbers are coming.

861
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: You know.

862
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 4: He has six and a half.

863
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: And the opportunity to play a team that has issues

864
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Speaker 3: on the offensive line of Cincinnati this week coming up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with five games left, he just needs four and

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Speaker 2: a half now, right, No, three and a half, six

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Speaker 2: and a half, three and a half, right, and needs

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Speaker 2: three and a half in five games to get double digit.

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Speaker 4: Of course, I'm sure he want thirteen, but getting double digit.

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Speaker 2: The first four years of first four years of your

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Speaker 2: career is something he wants.

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Speaker 3: All right, Clarence Hill, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Hook him.

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Speaker 3: Good for you. Glad you guys got that win over

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Speaker 3: A and M. Let's see if they can keep going

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Speaker 3: and win the SEC Championship. We'll talk tomorrow with you

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Speaker 3: on the no no no match tomorrow, that's right, no

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Speaker 3: media match because we have locker room, Cowboy locker room

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Speaker 3: at three o'clock tomorrow, So we'll be back with you Thursday,

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Speaker 3: when ed Warder is going to be here. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: you and ed have something to discuss here, so we'll

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Speaker 3: let that flow out here. I'm gonna Scruggs. He's clients

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Speaker 3: hell for Chris Bean, Josh Jazz, everybody who's here at

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys dot com. Thank you much. We'll catch him

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Speaker 3: uh Thursday.

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