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Speaker 1: So I got to do something. This is this is

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Speaker 1: you know, John, I have to fly a lot, and

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Speaker 1: because of that, I always have takes on airlines. I'm

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Speaker 1: like a bad nineteen seventies comic. I've always got airline material.

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Speaker 1: So story today, I have this theory. I always tell

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Speaker 1: and so Spirit Airlines is one of those airlines. It's bankrupt. Today,

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Speaker 1: a Spirit Airlines plane flew into Hurricane Erin, into one

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Speaker 1: of the bands of Hurricane Aaron, some idiot pilot. He

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Speaker 1: if you base, if you stay fairly aware of what's

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Speaker 1: the first thing. Now I want to compliment an airlines.

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Speaker 1: This is not an ad. So I used to be

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Speaker 2: Is that right, you're jests enter, Yes, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I was always a Delta guy, mostly because I

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Speaker 1: I'm in Chicago and Boston a lot and they're United

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Speaker 1: So it's a smaller plane. The first eight rows are

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Speaker 1: you get your own cube. That's privacy doors, more personal storage.

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Speaker 1: if you're flying American airlines and you want an elevated

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Speaker 1: American airlines. You do not have to fly first class.

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Speaker 1: Even the economy had better seats. I was in like

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Speaker 2: I'm actually going to Hawaii Saturday through the following Thursday,

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Speaker 1: When I was in my twenties, I flew Vegas in

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Speaker 1: Well it's like Vegas. Everybody you're reading all the rushed Well,

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Speaker 2: You and I talked about this when I was in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Most people that go gamble in Vegas are not Charles

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Speaker 2: Barclay or Michael Jordan. They're not gambling fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: So that to me, when I went to cal Paly

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Speaker 2: spend easily a couple hundred dollars between your hotel eating.

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Speaker 2: You could eat really cheap from I haven't been to

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Speaker 2: There's nothing even I can't find a piece of pizza

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Speaker 1: Well, the big draw now is the Sphere. They say,

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Speaker 1: the Sphere just signed a deal. They're going to show

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Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz, the Wizard of Oz the movie

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Speaker 1: John Again, this was six years ago when I was

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Speaker 1: it's just incredible. These executives. Can I give you a

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Speaker 1: even Steve Win made a huge mistake twenty five years

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Speaker 1: ago when he started he said, you know, the future

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Speaker 1: him out of they they didn't feel like they didn't

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Speaker 2: I also think the internet obviously sports gambling. I mean

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Speaker 1: the Giants, they wouldn't be flashy. If Malik Neighbors could

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Speaker 1: stay healthy, they could actually win eleven games. That's why

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Speaker 1: you know Dable. I think it works a little bit

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Speaker 1: with his franchise because he is good at taking average

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Speaker 1: B quarterbacks and making them a half great higher. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I history repeats itself, and

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Speaker 1: I think we're going into a really dark cowboy stage.

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Speaker 1: just did. Okay, So I think we're both so fired

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Speaker 1: up for Texas Ohio State. You and I love college

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Speaker 1: football and I can't wait for that game. So the

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Speaker 1: Michigan penalties came down, and basically Harbaugh can't coach in

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Speaker 1: college football for the next decade. He won't. They're probably

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Speaker 1: going to have to write, you know, thirty million dollars

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Speaker 1: in checks. They didn't have to vacate any wins. The

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Speaker 1: best punishment you can give a huge brand is cash.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they can make payments, but I I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you, John, I know I'm supposed to really be

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Speaker 1: outraged when the NCAA says, hey, listen, they were out

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Speaker 1: of control, they didn't follow rules. John the coaches I've

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Speaker 1: talked to with the transfer portal, it is so sketchy,

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Speaker 1: and the NIL is the wild wild West that connorstolellions.

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Speaker 1: I know I should be bothered, but I think I

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Speaker 1: think the penalty of a pay like twenty to thirty

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Speaker 1: million dollars, I'm fine with it. And I know I

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Speaker 1: sound like I'm a big ten homer here, but I

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Speaker 1: would say this. We all know the SEC was paying

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Speaker 1: guys for years through the church. I mean Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: basically stopped recruiting late cycle Ole Miss players because if

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Speaker 1: he couldn't get him committed early, he knew he'd lose late,

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Speaker 1: he knew he had no chance to win. They'd get

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Speaker 1: paid out. So and then you know, Hugh Freeze got busted.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was I went on the air multiple

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Speaker 1: times there were Ole Miss was not the only school,

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Speaker 1: but they were the worst defender with Hugh Freeze, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, gets rehired again because nobody really cares.

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Speaker 1: But in the end is if you can pay high

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Speaker 1: school football players, I don't care. It's nothing's illegal. I

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Speaker 1: don't care. Do you feel as strongly as I do?

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Speaker 1: Or are you bothered that they were a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an outlaw program with Hart?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I do not care at all. I'm

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Speaker 2: actually surprised that people still listen to the NC Double A.

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Speaker 2: You know that they're not in charge of the money

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Speaker 2: generation of college football. Obviously they have more of a

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Speaker 2: poll when it comes to basketball because they have a

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Speaker 2: lot with the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 1: But it's much madness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not called the NC Double A college football playoffs? Like,

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Speaker 2: so why think how stupid it is that Sharon More

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Speaker 2: got suspended for games three and four because they play Oklahoma? Like,

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Speaker 2: what are we doing? How does this make any sense?

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Speaker 2: And the NC Double A is it's been laughable for

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Speaker 2: a long time. It's like, No, I witnessed John Calipari

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Speaker 2: go to the finals, Like, you can't just take that

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Speaker 2: away Reggie Bush. I saw him. He's one of the

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Speaker 2: best college football players I've ever seen. Can't take away

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Speaker 2: his heisman. What were we talking about? Because he took

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Speaker 2: some shoes and an apartment from an eighth Think how

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Speaker 2: dumb that sounds? Now? You talked about that today. But Michigan,

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Speaker 2: who has a quarterback which I would imagine is going

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Speaker 2: to start the Underwood kid who they stole from LSU

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Speaker 2: because Larry Ellison cut a fifteen to twenty million dollar check.

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Speaker 2: And we're mad about a guy with binoculars and an

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Speaker 2: iPhone sitting in the seventieth row at an Iowa Michigan

496
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Speaker 2: state football game. And the other thing is I always

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Speaker 2: did defended Belichick when I got to the NFL with

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Speaker 2: Andy like stealing signs because technology changed a lot over

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Speaker 2: the last ten years. Now it's like everyone's in the headset.

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Speaker 2: But before stealing signs, everyone was doing it. Now Belichick

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Speaker 2: was a little more brazen on the sideline, but he

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Speaker 2: was doing something no different than everyone else was doing.

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Speaker 2: Everyone had signed stealing ability and tried to decode everything

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Speaker 2: and had people with cameras, so no one you notice

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Speaker 2: people in the NFL weren't that offended. Who was offended?

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Speaker 2: Fans Roger Goodell, who's never you know, And this is

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Speaker 2: the pushback with NFL people with Roger great with business,

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Speaker 2: but he doesn't know like the inner workings of play calls,

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Speaker 2: player acquisition, the strategy of football, and that's not his

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Speaker 2: so sometimes like bounty Gate and things with Roger Goodell overreacted.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people in the NFL, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is football, you know. I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people in college football. Now, did Michigan just beat Ohio

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Speaker 2: State when he was gone with Bill Connor? Stallions? Like,

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Speaker 2: It's just they got really good players. They got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of NFL guys. But I just can't get over

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Speaker 2: people still listening to the NCAA. It baffles me, like

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Speaker 2: why does football need them? And at this point in

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Speaker 2: time in twenty twenty five, I don't get it because

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Speaker 2: clearly they had to just wave their hands and wave

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Speaker 2: the white flag on all of the money stuff, So

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Speaker 2: why are we listening to them about anything else?

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Speaker 1: I will make a prediction in the next three years,

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Speaker 1: some venture capital group will buy March Madness and they

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Speaker 1: won't change much. They may shrink it a little bit

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Speaker 1: to like fifty eight teams or something that, you know,

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Speaker 1: fewer teams is probably better for a little leaner tournament.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I just heard a story yesterday from

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Speaker 1: a very good network source that there is a lot

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Speaker 1: of momentum to have like a twenty four or twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen playoff, and my loyalty has always been to more

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Speaker 1: big games, and you just can't get me worked up.

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Speaker 1: I Auburn Alabama. It's great, but it's regional and the

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Speaker 1: highest rated game last year. I think it was Texas Georgia.

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Speaker 1: That's not a rivalry. It wasn't Texas Oklahoma. So I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not when I heard everybody say, well, you're going

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Speaker 1: to kill the rivalries. Listen, if you're a Michigan fan

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Speaker 1: in Ohio State, did that game feel smaller last year

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Speaker 1: to you? And Michigan upstate Ohio State? It didn't feel

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Speaker 1: smaller to me, you know. So I mean the reality

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Speaker 1: is when the Rams play the Niners, it's intense. They

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Speaker 1: could play three times a year. Years ago, when the

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Speaker 1: Steelers and Ravens and Ray Lewis was around and so

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Speaker 1: was Big Ben. They play one year three times. The

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Speaker 1: game felt bigger than the first two because it was

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. So I there's just certain things in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I can't get worked up over somebody

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Speaker 1: having pot in their car, you know, same sex marriage,

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Speaker 1: NCAA coming down on payments to players, or any kind

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Speaker 1: of scandal like we've just graduated to just understanding the

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Speaker 1: world we live in. I said it today. Unless you're

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Speaker 1: like a cop from Reno nine to one to one,

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Speaker 1: you got a roach in your car. Nobody cares. That

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Speaker 1: mattered in the seventies, and I just if you can

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Speaker 1: buy high school players. I don't give two shits about

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Speaker 1: somebody with an iPhone in the crowd. I don't care

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Speaker 1: if you have forty of them, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I do think the twenty four twenty eight team college

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Speaker 2: football playoff, that's where I might get a little worked up.

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Speaker 2: You know, we saw the twelve team that first round

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Speaker 2: was a blowout. You know, you know there have been

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Speaker 2: arguments about sixteen tw again more. I love football as

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Speaker 2: much as the next guy, But that doesn't that feel

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Speaker 2: a little extreme? And we get a lot of average

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Speaker 2: to below average teams in the dance in that situation,

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Speaker 2: it's been your argument.

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Speaker 1: I think for March.

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Speaker 2: Madness forever, we always scream over first in last out

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Speaker 2: or whatever. Those teams never matter, right, who are your

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Speaker 2: one and two seeds? They usually determine the tournament.

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Speaker 1: So I think you'd have to make it half the

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Speaker 1: size of March Madness. Because football is a sport of attrition.

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Speaker 1: So the little guy it has no chance in a

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Speaker 1: twenty eight team tournament to ever win like a third

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Speaker 1: straight game against a bigger, deeper roster. But I think

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Speaker 1: I've said I think the perfect number is about sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be bothered by twenty. I think if you

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Speaker 1: get to twenty eight, you'd have to give the top

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Speaker 1: like four seeds. You know, I don't want I don't

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Speaker 1: want Georgia playing Liberty. I'm just not interested in that

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Speaker 1: at all. I mean, Notre Dame played Indiana and that

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Speaker 1: was kind of embarrassing for the Hoosiers.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was very I mean, Boise State in

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Speaker 2: state had a guy drafted in the top ten at

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Speaker 2: running back and he had no chance. You know why

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Speaker 2: because the offensive lineman had no chance to block the

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Speaker 2: Penn State guys. And that's always going to be the

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Speaker 2: big problem you get a twenty eighteen playoff. But here's

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Speaker 2: the other thing. It's like it's one team thing. At

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Speaker 2: the fourth or fifteen from the Big ten and the

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Speaker 2: SEC get in. But when you're taking the third and

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Speaker 2: fourth team from the Big twelve and the ACC, that's

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Speaker 2: when it could get really ugly. And that's I we

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Speaker 2: don't need to see those teams play now. I get

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Speaker 2: it's all about television ratings and football. I was thinking

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Speaker 2: today watching Sunday Night Football with Kleb Williams, what do

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Speaker 2: you think the first thirty minutes of that football game did?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it just had to blow everything out of

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Speaker 2: the water on Sunday night on Fox. Right. So the

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Speaker 2: advantage I never argue against, like more of these games.

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Speaker 2: I completely understand or argue against the people that want

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Speaker 2: more football in terms of working at the networks or

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Speaker 2: part of the revenue generation, because it's only going to

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Speaker 2: bring in more eyeballs. It's like, listen, I hate the

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Speaker 2: double header on Monday Night. I think it's I think

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Speaker 2: a huge part of playing Monday night football or Sunday

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Speaker 2: Night football is getting the solo game. But their argument

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Speaker 2: is you put the double header. It accumulates millions upon

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Speaker 2: millions of more people watching football, and that's the business

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Speaker 2: Roger an, ESPN or Fox or whoever's in. But sometimes

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Speaker 2: the product does get worse when I get a double

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Speaker 2: header on Monday night. I don't know who's asking for it.

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Speaker 2: Beside we're just gonna get more people. We can sell

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Speaker 2: more ads and make more money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know people get worked up over

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Speaker 1: my take on college football. I'm not a traditionalist, but

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Speaker 1: I've always truly felt that if you're absolutely honest with

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Speaker 1: yourself Alabama fan, Ohio State fan, you get bored with

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Speaker 1: the season. Because the Michigan game is great, the Penn

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Speaker 1: State game is great, the Oregon game was great. But

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Speaker 1: there's about six times that you're paying for a game

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Speaker 1: that is over at half. And if you're really honest,

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Speaker 1: I would and this is something I'd pay attention to

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Speaker 1: on any given Sunday, the one o'clock window, those are

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Speaker 1: not the best teams in the league. Those are. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot of Tennessee, that's a lot of Carolina, that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of you know, Chicago, Saints, Washington, Saints Washington

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Speaker 1: pre Jaden Daniels. Any given Sunday, there are four electric

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Speaker 1: finishes in the one o'clock window. And then you're getting

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Speaker 1: standalone Fox games, CBS game, Sunday Night game, Monday Night

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Speaker 1: game thirty. You get at least six tremendous games every

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Speaker 1: weekend in the NFL. And that's out of how many games,

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many total games do you have? Like

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Speaker 1: fourteen twelve. So in college football you have one hundred

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Speaker 1: and what is it, one hundred and thirty five, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty Division one programs. There are weekends that

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Speaker 1: you get. Now, again, you probably get close games with

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Speaker 1: teams nobody's watching, but you may get six great games

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Speaker 1: a weekend, and a lot of times for the six,

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Speaker 1: you know, can be like Army against you know, Boston

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Speaker 1: College and it goes down to the wire. That's not

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00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: the highest quality of football. So to me, I'm rooting

643
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: for anything that gives me. You know, like I said,

644
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: I get now Oregon against Michigan and Penn State and

645
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State or Oregon against Washington State Callen Stanford. To me,

646
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: it's just not a hard choice. I want more quality.

647
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably more of a traditionalist than you when

648
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: it comes to college football, but it's over, Like the

649
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: battle has been won and those traditions are done. Right,

650
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: we are going to continue to merge, and I think

651
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: we have to acknowledge how do we get the best games.

652
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm all for not allowing some of these matchups anymore,

653
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: basically mandating that you have to play your peers in

654
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: the non conference games, and maybe that if we go

655
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: to a bigger playoff schedule of twenty or twenty four teams,

656
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: then Alabama would never play a mercer because remember Saban

657
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: used to bitch and moan about no one being in

658
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: the stadium a kickoff. It's like, well, Nick, you're playing

659
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: col Paly, the Sisters of the Poor and UC Davis,

660
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: And then he'd go, well, our schedule is so hard,

661
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: And it's true, your SEC schedule is hard, but you

662
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: still got three or four other home games that no

663
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: one cares about. And let's face it, there are a

664
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Speaker 2: couple of SEC games, you know, Vanderbilt was before last

665
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: year in a Mississippi state where you're gonna kick the

666
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: crap out of them. So it's not gonna be an

667
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 2: enjoyable experience for the consumer. So how do we fix

668
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: that and maybe go into twenty four teams? Enables us

669
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Speaker 2: to because where we're headed is is gonna be the

670
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: NFL White Right, We're gonna have two major conferences and

671
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: they're all gonna play each other. And that's where like

672
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 2: the even the Boise States and the New Mexico's, they're

673
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: eventually just gonna be playing like there's just gonna be

674
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: Division one. And then there's gonna be like Division one,

675
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: double A, and right now there's still kind of that

676
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: middle ground of some of these teams. I don't think

677
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: they will exist in five ten years because financially they

678
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: won't be able. It's like it's like business, right. I mean,

679
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: think how often Amazon or Target or some of these

680
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: you know big companies Oracle Meta, you know, have just

681
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: wiped people out. And that's kind of what like Ohio

682
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 2: State and Alabama and USC and Oregon. And it's why

683
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: I read a story recently like Duke in North Carolina,

684
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: we're trying to get to the SEC. Well, they're not

685
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: gonna let Clems in Florida State just go like we're

686
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: coming with you. You know, we've got to follow the

687
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: money if we want to survive.

688
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think change is inevitable. I mean, you

689
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: and I I think are pretty safe when it comes

690
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: to AI. But I mean, look at what's happening in AI,

691
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: Like if you I would. I just read a story

692
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: in the Atlantic today how AI has changed universities in

693
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Speaker 1: academia and one hundred percent of students use it and

694
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Speaker 1: you know universities, and they were quoting some of the

695
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: kids talking about it and they're like, listen, man, I

696
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: work hard, but sometimes I just want to go lift weights.

697
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to write another sixteen page essay. And

698
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: which is you know a lot? I mean, do you

699
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: remember anything from college? A lot of it's nonsense, I

700
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: really do. I think finally, over the course of my life,

701
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: people have come to terms with a lot of college

702
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of universities as status unless you're a

703
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: doctor or unless you're a lawyer and you're getting a

704
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: certain license or degree. But in a lot of instances,

705
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: you know, you end up getting in sales. But I think,

706
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: like AI, job displacement, like this is the way of

707
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: the world, and sports fans like I never got adults

708
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: that collected baseball cards. I guess there's a financial benefit.

709
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: It's a water down, deluted market now, But I think

710
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: you just have to get comfortable with sports are going

711
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: to change. And I felt for years that boxing was

712
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: screwing the fans, and here comes UFC and knocked it out.

713
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: And I felt for years that college football was the

714
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: worst run, eight billion dollar year sport. Boom the network

715
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: stepped in Fox in the ESPN, NBC and said, yeah,

716
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna take it over. We're gonna make the decisions,

717
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: and so I don't have a problem with it if

718
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: you're a well run company. Like people can bitch about

719
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: the NBA. They just signed a seventy six billion dollars

720
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: eleven year deal. You can complain about the NBA, but

721
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: nobody in venture capital country is going to buy the teams.

722
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: The league is incredibly profitable. College football was a poorly

723
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Speaker 1: run mess. Boxing was a mess. Horse racing is a mess.

724
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Speaker 1: Golf with a PGA being a charity never took care

725
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: of it stars, So get look at what's been upended.

726
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: Poorly run college football, poorly run boxing, and the poorly

727
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: run PGA. Stuff that's well run. Nobody's buying Meta right,

728
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: like nobody's buying Amazon, like they're buying companies that are

729
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, vulnerable so or significant smaller. So I don't

730
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: feel bad for sports that change. They only change when

731
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: they're poorly run.

732
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Speaker 2: But my question then is when does it never end?

733
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: Like in the NFL, we can make fun of the

734
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: Brown family or I feel like the Davis family. Mark

735
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: has pivoted much better with Tom and his group coming in,

736
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: so they got more financial backing. But at the end

737
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: of the day, the Cowboys and the forty nine ers

738
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: and the New York Giants their partners with the Cincinnati

739
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: Bengals and the Arizona Cardinals. Right, But if you're Ohio

740
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: State and now USC and Oregon come, you start looking

741
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: around like why are we carrying Maryland and Minnesota? And

742
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: that's the problem in Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, go, what

743
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: do we need Mississippi State for Vanderbilt great academics, who

744
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: gives a shit. We're not even gonna be associated. Our

745
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: kids aren't even going to go to school in five

746
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: or ten years. We're just gonna have a siloed football program.

747
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: And that's the problem with college athletics is there is

748
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: a lot of kinks in the business plan because how

749
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: many programs truly carry it and can and can splinter

750
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: where Jerry can say all he wants is like we're

751
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: the most watched team or the Chiefs now But you're

752
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: in business with all these other people, and that's how

753
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 2: you sell the business model to the networks. In college football,

754
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 2: you buy the big ten. But I mean you've been

755
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: at Fox like they've rowed Michigan, Ohio State. If Maryland

756
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: disappeared tomorrow, besides Scott van Pelt, who would notice? And

757
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: I and that's what like that that still matters to me.

758
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up around cows. Read the Athletic

759
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: article on Andrew Luck It's it's pretty good about him

760
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: going to become the GM and a lot. It's a

761
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 2: it's a really good article came out today. If Stanford

762
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: football just disappeared tomorrow, no one would notice. And it's like,

763
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: how long is this sustainable? When everyone is just kind

764
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: of backstabbing? You know, the big guys are just constantly

765
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 2: backs Like ultimately Jerry can't ass out Mike Brown, He's

766
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: he just can't write, or Jed York can't just screw

767
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: Michael Bidwell, like they're all in business together and in

768
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: college they kind of are, but kind of not. I mean,

769
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Speaker 2: why did USC and UCLA u CLA just kind of

770
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: gebacked off USC? But USC was just we're not caring

771
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: Washington State anymore, screw you. So why can't USC and

772
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State and Michigan just go? Why are we carrying

773
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Speaker 2: Minnesota and Maryland? I'm picking on Minnesota. Maybe they're bigger

774
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: than I give them credit for, but and we just

775
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: start trimming the fat and that's it's the fat's gonna

776
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: keep getting trimmed until we have twenty five programs. This

777
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: is Alabama, Florida, Clemson, That's what That's where it feels

778
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: like inevitable, right.

779
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but like, listen, the English Premier League

780
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: has relegation, like I I just think like major League

781
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: Baseball right now has and and for my entire life

782
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: has had six to eight teams that can't really compete

783
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: when the season starts. I don't know, I let me

784
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: rephrase that. So baseball has no salary cap, no salary cap.

785
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: So this should really be a sport in which big

786
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: markets dominate. Yet the Milwaukee Brewers are clearly the best

787
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: team in baseball. The Dodgers until they just swept a series.

788
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: We're reeling. The Yankees and the Mets. You know, they're chasing,

789
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Blue Jays. The Yankees are, the Mets

790
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: are no longer in first place, not really a very

791
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: good baseball team. So I think in the sport of baseball,

792
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: in which it really should be a have and have

793
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: not sport, if you look at the last eleven World

794
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: Series champs, the Yankees aren't in there. The Dodger and twice.

795
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: One of those is sort of the much maligned COVID

796
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: World Series title. It's the Rangers, the Astros, the Gnats,

797
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: the Royals are in there, and the Yankees aren't. And

798
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: so my take is is Iowa football has never run

799
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: the sport, has never been hugely valuable to the sport,

800
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: but will always produce quality teams because it matters to

801
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: the people of that state and they'll always be a

802
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: viable seven to eight win program. And that's what they've

803
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: always been. And if you look at the history of

804
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: college football, you can go back thirty years. There's only

805
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: one new top ten program, Oregon. That is it. It's

806
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: always been ridiculously top heavy. But the difference is when

807
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 1: it was top heavy and we were paying guys behind

808
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: the scenes, or it was top heavy because of topography,

809
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: geography or population centers, everybody was okay with it. But

810
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: when things get lobsided because of money, we feel it's

811
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: very unfair. And the truth is, Ohio has always had

812
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: far more good players in it than Indiana, and Indiana's

813
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: a basketball state and Ohio's a football state, and the

814
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: Buckeyes and Michigan have been kicking everybody's ass in that

815
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: Conference for my entire life. But now it feels like

816
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: it's money that's separating them. And I think people get

817
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: worked up over money. They just especially men, they don't

818
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: like people don't like to talk about money. And the

819
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: truth is the Big Ten has been lobsided my entire life.

820
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: Since I started watching sports in nineteen seventy two. It's

821
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: been I mean for years Penn State was independent, they

822
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: joined it later. It's always been. There's been the occasional

823
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: Barry Alvarez Wisconsin team or Hayden Fry had a good

824
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: Iowa team that goes to the Rose Bowl. It's been

825
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Buckeyes and Wolverines my entire life.

826
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Speaker 2: I do think part of sports, though, especially college football,

827
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: which is you know in the NFL, a big upset

828
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: is in the playoffs or the Super Bowl. Upsets happened

829
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: all the time in the regular season. Regular season games

830
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: don't One game doesn't determine your success. We're in college

831
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: football now it determines less of your success. Ohio State

832
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: lost to Michigan, it didn't ruin their season. They still

833
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: won the National championship. But some of the biggest moments

834
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: in my life have been app lash and State beating

835
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: Michigan has been you know, some of the Aaron Rodgers

836
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: almost beating the undefeated Pete Carroll team and then Vince

837
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: Young fin like an upset happening in college football and

838
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: the little guy and whether that's you know, Minnesota or

839
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: a Maryland beating Ohio State once every six seven years.

840
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: Last year, Vanderbilt beating Alabama for the first time in

841
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: fifty years. And you do need like Tiger Woods needed

842
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: Chris de Marco every once in a while to give

843
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: him a run for his money. That's good drama. Ultimately,

844
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: this is the drama of Michigan. Ohio State can't play

845
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: every single game, right, So who's Ohio State or Alabama

846
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: or Oregon gonna play? I mean last year, I was

847
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: on the edge of my seat thinking, is Ashton Genty

848
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: and Boise State gonna beat Oregon, which is ironically used

849
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: to they beat him multiple times in the past with

850
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: Chris Peterson. But it felt like this is gonna be

851
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: pretty nuts, and you just wonder if that goes away

852
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: and it just becomes which it feels like it's gonna

853
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: become like forty teams, it's just gonna be every single week.

854
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: It's like, well, Ohio State plays they're non conferences now Florida, Georgia, Clemson,

855
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: and but I'm.

856
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: Gonna argue, you're gonna watch that and it's gonna get

857
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: bigger ratings than playing Purdue again. And that's my takeaway.

858
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: Like I watched so much college football last year. I

859
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: loved college football last year. You and I both really

860
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: are heavy college football leaners. We love the sport. John,

861
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: I went through about an eight year cycle with Clemson, Georgia, Bama.

862
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: I was watching less. The sport was incredibly lopsided. Well,

863
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: now Texas gets to play Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, I

864
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: get usc schedule, Penn State, Michigan. Like to me, I

865
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: had more fun watching college football last year than I

866
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: have had in a decade. And so I'll go back

867
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: to this. I know it's money and it makes people uncomfortable,

868
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: but if you're telling me Ohio State, I mean, let's

869
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: just do this. Let's let's do this. So I'm gonna

870
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: read Ohio State schedule, Texas, Grambling State, Ohio at Washington,

871
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: at Illinois at Wisconsin, Penn State, Purdue, Ucla, Rutgers, Michigan.

872
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: You know the two games you'd get rid of tomorrow

873
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Grambling State in Ohio, and everybody says, oh, that's part

874
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: of the fabric. Those are the two games you would

875
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: eliminate immediately, and the third game that you'd probably eliminate

876
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: would be Minnesota at Ohio State because it probably be

877
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: a blowout. So my takeaway is, in the new world,

878
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: if we have a bigger playoff, you're gonna get more Texas,

879
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State, more Ohio State, Washington, more Ohio State, Wisconsin,

880
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: more Penn State, Ohio State, and more Michigan Ohio State.

881
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: You're just gonna get more of those games, are you not.

882
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not arguing for Grambling or Ohio to be

883
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: on the schedule. I do wonder there has to be

884
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: some hierarchy though, of like, eventually are they backstab in

885
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: the p dudes, the Minnesotas and Marylands and killing them

886
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: all off and we're just talking twenty five thirty teams

887
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: just playing in college football. I mean, that's that's that's

888
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: what like D one double A almost feels like right

889
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: North Dakota State, Montana, and I just wonder like there

890
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: has to be some sort of balance. I have no

891
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: problem with you're not allowed to play Grambling. If you're

892
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State and Ryan Day would be like, well, we're

893
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: opening up against Texas, I'd say great. Ask Sean Payton.

894
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, we open against the Chiefs, then we

895
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: play the Chargers. Welcome to football. But that's the way

896
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: college that's the way college football works. And that's that's

897
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 2: always Saban's excuse. It's always and I respect all these

898
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: programs that play real non conference games, but they do

899
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 2: that and then they justify their other three non conference

900
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: games or against me, you and the dude down the

901
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: street and they're like, see, we played Texas on a

902
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: neutral field. I'm like, great, then you played three teams

903
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: that I mean, you feel bad for those kids. Is

904
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 2: it safe for Grambling in Ohio to play Ohio State?

905
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if it is. But that's

906
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: just the nature that I guess. That's my ultimate thing

907
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: is And this is why college football has been you know,

908
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: it's it's been really successful in me. It's the second

909
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: biggest sport in America in terms of viewers, but in

910
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: terms of it's chaotic a lot like golf. The leadership

911
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: everyone just kind of stabbing each other in the back,

912
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 2: out for themselves we're in the NFL, even the NBA,

913
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: you're kind of with it as a group, and there's

914
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: just and maybe that's just the nature of their business

915
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: model with these conferences. It was always destined as it

916
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: got this popular, to be so fractured and be through

917
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: this period of time. But I don't think we're even

918
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: close to being done like the traditionalist they lost, But

919
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: I don't think we're close to being done, to being

920
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: situated like I think we still got five, ten, twenty

921
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: years of a lot of moving parts here.

922
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to play a game. I'm going to

923
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: go through the Bearer schedule because I did this flying

924
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: back Boston to LA yesterday and I was surprised at

925
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: what I landed at. Okay, I'm gonna give you the

926
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: game and just your kind of gut instinct winner lose

927
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: for the Bears. Minnesota Vikings come to Chicago on September eighth,

928
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: Brian Flores against Caleb Williams. Win or a loss. Win, Okay,

929
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: you have a win. Bears then go to Detroit in

930
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: one of the louder environments against Dan Campbell and two

931
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: new coordinators.

932
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: Loss.

933
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 1: Okay, they get a host of Dallas Cowboys and Brian

934
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: Schottenneimer win. I think that's one of my favorite wins.

935
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: Then they go on the road to face Pete Carroll, Aston,

936
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: Jenny Brockbauers and the Raiders.

937
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: That's a tough game, going to be loud. Seattle's going

938
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: to have a fast start. Raiders, oh peaky out nevermind

939
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: win win.

940
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so you have a win win. I think it's

941
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a really good game. Bears then go

942
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: to the Commanders.

943
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: Side of the crime last year, right the Hail Mary.

944
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: It's a late NBC level game. It's a five to

945
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: fifteen start, so that's a big Washington at home late game.

946
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: I'll go l.

947
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: That's what I did. Okay, Sat scot to Chicago, win

948
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: out a win. Bears at the Ravens lost. Yes, Bears

949
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: at the Bengals.

950
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: Win. I think the Bengals could just be not as

951
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 2: good as people think.

952
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Giants at the Bears.

953
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: That's one of those sneaky, tough matchups where I think

954
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 2: most fans would give the Bears a w. I could

955
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: see an upset city. They're gonna get upset where every

956
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: they might start feeling themselves, you know.

957
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you give them an l Okay, this is getting interesting.

958
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: Now the Bears are at the Vikings hel Okay, Stealers

959
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: at the Bears, win for the Bears. Okay, Bears at

960
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles, probably a loss. Yes, Bears at.

961
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 2: The Packers, they've beat them once in like thirty years, right, yeah,

962
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: going out loss.

963
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Now get near the end and we'll see what

964
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: this means. Brown's at the Bears. That's probably a w.

965
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: Packers at Chicago. Now I'll go split here win, Bears

966
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: at Niners, win for.

967
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 2: The Niners, lost for the Bears.

968
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: And finally Lions at the Bears.

969
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: Win.

970
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think their record is? What have

971
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: you predicted.

972
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: Nine and eight or ten and seven?

973
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: Nine and eight got to eight to nine. And so

974
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: I went through it last night and I said, instead

975
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: of predicting, I'm gonna go every win. And I was like, you,

976
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: they're gonna split with Green Bay. I think I had

977
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: him losing on the road. I think I had him

978
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: like losing to a Giants. I thought the Commanders was

979
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: a loss. So here's my thing is they're a nine

980
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: and eight football team and they're out of the playoffs.

981
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: And my question to you is, will you deem that

982
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: a success at nine and eight if Ben Johnson and

983
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: Caleb cut the sacks in half. He does make mistakes,

984
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: he ad libs, but they're a nine and eight football team,

985
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: and Caleb looks like a top twelve quarterback, maybe number twelve.

986
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a successful season?

987
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: One thousand percent. They just fired the entire coaching staff.

988
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: They drafted tenth overall. They have been losing for years straight,

989
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: nine and eight in that division. Even if you missed

990
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 2: the playoffs, which I would think the last couple of years,

991
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: you've had a decent chance in the NFC.

992
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: Till last weekend. Year determined that.

993
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: That means you play important football the entire season. That

994
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 2: is one percent a win.

995
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think people in Chicago agree, but I

996
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: agree with you. I got to eight and nine and

997
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, and I feel pretty good about it.

998
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: You won the games at home. You should win.

999
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: I would say this eight and nine and nine and

1000
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: eight might be the difference of a fumble bouncing your

1001
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: way or bouncing in someone else's arms. So it really

1002
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: might not be that big of a difference over the

1003
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: course of a season, but that number there, it feels

1004
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: pretty big when you say it out loud. I do

1005
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: think going over five hundred. I also think eight and

1006
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: nine with the seventeen games, it's kind of the old

1007
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: seven and nine. Like seven and nine, a lot of

1008
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: people got fired seven and nine and eight and eight

1009
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: was actually much more respectable. It's like, oh, the five

1010
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: hundred they were solid football team, or seven and nine

1011
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: felt like, ah, they kind of sucked, even though again

1012
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: it might have been one tipped ball that landed in

1013
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: another guy's Hanford of pick six. But I do think

1014
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: going nine to eight is one hundred percent of success,

1015
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: where eight nine I think people would be a little

1016
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: just because the hype on Ben Johnson. I mean, let's

1017
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 2: face it, he's he's considered immediately the next Shanahan, McVeigh,

1018
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell, like he's he's very highly regarded by fans

1019
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: and football circles. I mean, he's just impressive. I've been impressed.

1020
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: He's not just some pushover. He's kind of a hard ass.

1021
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: And he even talks like I've been hard on Caleb

1022
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: and he hasn't liked it all. I was like, I

1023
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: kind of respect that, you know, he's been he's been

1024
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: very I mean, you're back there seeing as local press conferences.

1025
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 2: He's he's pretty candid about like it's not he's not

1026
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: running some it's a pretty tight ship. I would say

1027
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 2: he's got some Dan Campbell qualities, which I did not

1028
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: expect from an offensive guy.

1029
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: Wrap it up. John Brahm repeats as the Live Golf

1030
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: League champ eighteen million dollar check to him. That's pretty handy.

1031
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: The team champion will be determined this coming week in Michigan.

1032
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: Did you see the attendance in Indianapolis?

1033
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: I did, look fantastic.

1034
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: I sold fifty thousand seats, so that's almost double Chicago.

1035
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: So I was talking to an executive at Fox today

1036
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: and I said, I don't know if it works on TV.

1037
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Some stuff does, some stuff doesn't. You know,

1038
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: boxing is captivating in person. It doesn't necessarily work on

1039
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: network television. You know, for whatever reasons, hockey doesn't work

1040
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: on TV. It's unbelievable in person. But the live I

1041
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: mean to sell fifty thousand seats and the merchandise they

1042
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: sell as you and I saw crushes, so literally they doubled.

1043
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: In a smaller area, they doubled the ticket sold. So

1044
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: this weekend they wrap it up in Michigan, and I

1045
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: think they're onto something with this sort of Midwest swing

1046
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: invulf because it feels like the PGA has gone very coastal,

1047
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: very Florida, and I think they've I think they've kind

1048
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: of found a little bit of a niche. It took

1049
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: them a while to do it, but I think they've

1050
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: found it. In the States.

1051
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: Well, I think you could probably work six or seven

1052
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: events in that Midwest swing. You could find somewhere in

1053
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: Missouri or Kansas City area. Obviously Chicago's an easy one.

1054
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: I mean going to Michigan, Indianapolis. I do think. And

1055
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: I've told a couple of people that have asked me,

1056
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: like what do you think, And I said, listen, I've

1057
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: been to I've been to US opens, I've been to

1058
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: multiple PGA events. This was unlike any event I've been

1059
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: to every baseball, basketball, football, This was very unique with

1060
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: the music in the vibe. If you're a young thirty

1061
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: year old, you and your buddies want to go have

1062
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: some drinks, if you want to bring like just go

1063
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: hang out. It's just an easy event for a couple hours.

1064
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't it doesn't take a lot of time. They

1065
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Speaker 2: all tee off at the same time, you know, so

1066
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Speaker 2: it's like you go for a couple hours and leave.

1067
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Speaker 2: And I do think they've struck something with the with

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Speaker 2: the musical acts. They had a Riley Green as a

1069
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: country star, played all of DJ and Paulina. They're all

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Speaker 2: taking pictures with them, so I think they kind of

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00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: got something going there. I disagree Scott, And you know,

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Speaker 2: talking about the team element, you know, I don't know

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00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: how big that. You know, Golf's an individual sport. It's why,

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about why they've had some John Rahm

1075
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 2: is an individual star, Bryson's an individual star. So they

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00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: got something there in the Midwest. And I would keep

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00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: hammering home the individual aspect. But they're big on the team,

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Speaker 2: which I understand that was kind of their point of difference.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, they're selling a shit ton

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00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: of merch they are selling. Oh my god, they sell

1081
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: a lot of merch.

1082
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Speaker 2: They really do, and it's it's been a lucrative move

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00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: for some of these I mean eighteen million dollars, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's very John.

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Speaker 1: The only merch I've ever seen in my life sell

1086
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: for golf is the Augusta hats. Yeah, those are all

1087
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: over the country. But if you take out the Augusta hat,

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00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't see golf birch. The merch they're selling there

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00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: is incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing. I mean, he's got something going. I

1091
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: was impressed how many people were at the Chicago one

1092
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: we went to, and obviously the visuals in Indianapolis just

1093
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: people go there and it all kind of younger people

1094
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: just there to screw around, have a few drinks, eat

1095
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: little food, watch a little golf.

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00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: It's the Phoenix Open. Yeah, it's the same thing, all right, John,

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Talk soon, see tomorrow

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Speaker 2: The volume