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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us as we roll

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Speaker 2: into the weekend. We are going to have some fun

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and two A two to eight A two.

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Speaker 2: No guest scheduled, so we will take some of your

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Speaker 2: calls to react too much of what we are discussing

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Speaker 2: throughout the course of today's show.

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Speaker 3: Going to have some fun. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Margo Robbie aka Barbie described as mediocre in her attractiveness.

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Speaker 2: Buck and I have strong feelings on a Friday Tucker

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Speaker 2: Carlson's raising hundreds of millions of dollars, as according to

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Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal, he is poised to begin a

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Speaker 2: new conservative media company. What do we think about that

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Speaker 2: woke Disney under absolute siege in the wake of We

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Speaker 2: played some of the audio of Bob Iger, the CEO

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Speaker 2: of Disney, in his interview with CNBC. But when you

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Speaker 2: hear some of the details about more of the movies

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Speaker 2: that are coming out, you're gonna just be in disbelief.

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Speaker 2: I think about how much Disney has lost its way

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Speaker 2: and allowed the woke virus to infect pretty much the

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Speaker 2: entirety of the company. We will discuss that, but Buck,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to begin with this. So earlier in the

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Speaker 2: week during the show, we talked about the idea of

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Speaker 2: Robert F. Kennedy, what his appeal is, and the possibility

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Speaker 2: that he could even end up as the vice president

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Speaker 2: for Donald Trump. And in the wake of that, I've

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Speaker 2: been putting up some interesting polls on my Twitter feed.

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Speaker 2: They've been retweeted by the Clay and Buck feed, and

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Speaker 2: I also will retweet this one right now. I initially said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you can only pick one, Robert F. Kennedy or Mitt Romney,

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Speaker 2: no other third party, no other options. Who would you

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Speaker 2: vote for if you only had the two? And RFK

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Speaker 2: Junior beat Mitt Romney basically eighty to twenty. That is,

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Speaker 2: with seventy thousand of you some odd voting, eighty percent

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Speaker 2: of you said I'd rather vote for Robert F. Kennedy

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Speaker 2: than Mitt Romney. This is interesting because RFK Junior is

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Speaker 2: ostensibly a Democrat. Obviously Mitt Romney was the Republican standard

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Speaker 2: bearer in the twenty twelve election. So then I followed

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Speaker 2: it up this yesterday afternoon, Buck, after our show ended.

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Speaker 2: When those final results came in, I thought, Okay, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: What about a more recent Republican standard Bear Heck, what

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Speaker 2: about somebody who's actually running for president right now who

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Speaker 2: we've had on this program. So what about RFK Junior

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Speaker 2: head to head against Mike Pence? And the numbers as

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Speaker 2: we speak right now, Buck, forty one thousand people have voted.

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Speaker 2: If you want to retweet Clay and Buck, I just

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Speaker 2: retweeted this poll so you can go vote in it

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Speaker 2: and let your voice be heard at Clay Travis on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: at Clay and Buck, at Buck Sexton And right now,

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Speaker 2: over forty thousand of you have voted, and RFK Junior

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Speaker 2: is beating Mike Pence seventy four percent to twenty six percent.

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Speaker 3: These are not close.

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Speaker 2: And so Buck, as I looked at those numbers and

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Speaker 2: I read some of the comments, what really kind of

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Speaker 2: came clear to me. And this is my thesis. And

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Speaker 2: I'm curious if you would buy into this. Much of

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Speaker 2: but I think a huge percentage of frankly Democrats, independence Republicans.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a huge mass of people out there

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Speaker 2: the last several years. That there is a massive reaction

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Speaker 2: against established mint candidates, right the Mitt Romney's, the Mike Pences,

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Speaker 2: to RFK Junior hitting a certain tone that is reflected

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Speaker 2: in the population right now. And Buck what it made

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Speaker 2: me think about was and why I think Trump, if

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, which is be the anti establishment candidate,

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Speaker 2: that actually could make a lot of sense with RFK Junior.

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Speaker 2: But what's interesting to me is there aren't very many

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Speaker 2: COVID totalitarianism, which then has spread and metastasized through everything

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Speaker 2: Does that add up to you, because I think that's

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Speaker 2: where the votings I guessed is. As we approach people

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Speaker 3: Well it's really early, and if you look at the

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Speaker 3: people actually do when it comes time to cast their balance,

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Speaker 3: So is there a sense right now? Look, I think

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Speaker 3: you have to break this up into buckets or into tranches,

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Speaker 3: like you're saying the American people want. The American people

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Speaker 3: didn't want accountability for COVID and an anti system vote

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Speaker 3: that badly in twenty twenty two. That is not what

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's also ask this question, who gave people

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Speaker 2: that option in twenty twenty two. Well, I would argue

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Speaker 2: there weren't that many great anti establishment candidates in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two. There are a lot of people who said, Okay,

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Speaker 2: many people go out and say they totally failed you

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Speaker 2: on COVID, right, and the government Like who? I'm just

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Speaker 2: curious because I think it's an interesting question. Who would

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Speaker 3: I mean, you had some definitely non traditional candidates like

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Speaker 3: are people who didn't end up doing well in the

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Speaker 3: non establishment lane. But I think more to the point,

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Speaker 3: the whole the narrative that we had over the system failure.

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Speaker 3: I mean Clay at some level, I have a cognitive

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Speaker 3: dissonance here because I every day I'm like, how are

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Speaker 3: people more upset about what happened? Yeah? So I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: you're with me on the on the mind, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: RFK Junior. Look, I'm just gonna say it. He's not

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Speaker 3: gonna beat Joe Biden the primary. It's not gonna happen. Okay,

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Speaker 3: not going to win the Democrat primary. Mark my words,

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Speaker 3: mark it down, put it on the calendar. Not going

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Speaker 3: to happen. Because Democrats want power, right, So that's the

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Speaker 3: system reset or a system change for them. That's just

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Speaker 3: you know, their activist Bernie Bernie bros. Wing will make

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Speaker 3: how I view the Democrat side of it. The twenty percent,

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Speaker 3: It's the RFK is about twenty they're they're Bernie bros

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Speaker 3: In essence, they're people who don't like, you know, Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden's an old white man and he's out of touch,

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Speaker 3: and he's he's too old, and they're making noise about that.

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Speaker 3: Right now, At the end of the day, Democrat Party

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Speaker 3: And I think that still is Joe Biden. That could change,

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Speaker 3: I understand this because you know, you've got you've got

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Speaker 3: Trump is the anti established candidate who was the former

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Speaker 3: president correct and anti establishment? Right, yes, I mean he

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Speaker 3: this is where you get into how do you reform

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Speaker 3: I think on the Republican side. You're right that there

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Speaker 3: right you know, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and you know,

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Speaker 3: Now RFK Junior has found that lane, and that's why

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Speaker 3: And if he's a Democrat, I don't want him in charge.

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Speaker 3: So that's a there's a balance there, right, And people

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Speaker 3: now she's an independent. Why is an RFK junior going

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Speaker 3: I just think it's very early in seeing that evolution

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Speaker 3: if he makes the case. And but in the meantime,

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Speaker 3: what you have is, all right, what is going to

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Speaker 3: And that's a process, that's I should say, that's a

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Speaker 3: be more effective this time or what are the next stages?

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Speaker 3: If you thought the first four years were very effective

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Speaker 3: at tearing down the establishment. If you make that case,

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Speaker 3: I think that there's at least part of the GOP

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Speaker 3: be the extension of that for four more years? We

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Speaker 3: haven't heard that yet. I think we're going to be

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Speaker 3: hearing more of that. So I this is just a

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Speaker 3: We had mentioned Disney to you before, and if you've

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Speaker 3: Just listen to this. Hello and welcome to the Disney Plus.

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Speaker 4: This is me Pride Celebration Spectacular. Our leadership over there

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Speaker 3: are like age three, five, and nine. You're like, well,

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Speaker 3: is that you or is that the kids always pushing? Right?

432
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Speaker 3: It's efficol, of course, it's always them. But I think

433
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 3: that this is where this is where this is all

434
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 3: gonna go. The people who buy into this, really this

435
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 3: religion of gender identity, which is what it has become.

436
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 3: It's a belief system unto itself. They think that telling

437
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Speaker 3: a seven year old about being cisgender, non binary, bran

438
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Speaker 3: gender and all this stuff, that's not sexualizing children because

439
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: that's inherent at birth to these kids, which is crazy,

440
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: but that's what they in their minds. Oh, we're just

441
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Speaker 3: helping them be what they are at a younger age.

442
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Speaker 3: What I think though, is important for the you know,

443
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Speaker 3: the the non LGBTQ plus activity like just people out

444
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: there to remember is heterosexual couples and and and others

445
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: don't expose their children at age six and seven. Like

446
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: nobody was talking to me about sex when I was

447
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: seven years old, about gender, about anything. They were just

448
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: letting me be right. So they're the ones that put

449
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 3: this stuff on the kids that are younger and younger age.

450
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Speaker 3: But they think that they're doing something that isn't inherently

451
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Speaker 3: sexualizing children because they just assume that there are different

452
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Speaker 3: rules for what they're doing. You see what I mean?

453
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Speaker 3: Like yeah, like you know, people listening to this would

454
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Speaker 3: not have the conversations with their six year old about

455
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: where babies come from for example, like that people wait

456
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: till they get older, like we all know this, the

457
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: birds and the bees, all that stuff. This activist community

458
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: of the gender identity set, they think, oh, it's not

459
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: inappropriate to talk about this stuff that you could actually

460
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Speaker 3: be a boy when you're a girl or a girl.

461
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: You're a boy because it's from birth and they need

462
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Speaker 3: to know it or else they'll never live their true selves.

463
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Speaker 3: It's crazy, but this is what they really think. This

464
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Speaker 3: is what they really believe.

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Speaker 2: And beyond how woke it is to do this, remake

466
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Speaker 2: snow Whites, Latina whatever, the dwarves are no longer dwarves.

467
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: They're also boys and girls. Now what this really reflects though,

468
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 2: buck In addition to the woke virus spreading through all

469
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Speaker 2: of Disney is the absolute paucity of new ideas. All

470
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Speaker 2: they're doing is remaking an animated film as live action film.

471
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: And they did it for Aladdin, and they did it

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Speaker 2: for Little Mermaid, and it's a desperate failure of original

473
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: thought inside of Disney that their plan for how to

474
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: invest hundreds of millions of dollars to try and make

475
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars more is not to create new, original,

476
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: compelling programming and characters, which are all failing, by the way,

477
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: because I think this woke virus has infected so much

478
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 2: of their company. It's that they're just trying to remake

479
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Speaker 2: things that are one hundred years old. I mean at

480
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Speaker 2: the time, and I'm a big I'm a big fan

481
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Speaker 2: of business and of Walt Disney in general. At the

482
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Speaker 2: time that Disney began to create animated films, it was

483
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: a revolutionary idea to even undertake, and so what he

484
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: was doing was incredibly bold and creative, and early Pixar

485
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: did that too. Buck it was a revitalization of the

486
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: Disney brand. And then they fired John Lassiter, who was

487
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Speaker 2: probably as close to a modern day Walt Disney as

488
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: they've had inside of Pixar because they said that he

489
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: had inappropriately interacted with some coworkers, and since then their

490
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: entire business has collapsed on animated films. Pixar can't put

491
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Speaker 2: out anything that anybody likes, and it's because the unique

492
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Speaker 2: talent that was driving all of Pixar's success was actually

493
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Speaker 2: about the foundation that was connected to Disney. And now

494
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 2: Bob Iger. I really think this is a perfect example,

495
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 2: and they're going to study this in the years ahead.

496
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: There's a perfect example of a CEO doing what's best

497
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Speaker 2: for him. There's a story in the Wall Street Journal

498
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Speaker 2: that just came down before we came on air, buck

499
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: talking about how Bob Iiger sits in his office and

500
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: shows off the massive yacht that he's building a new

501
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 2: yacht to replace his old yacht. Bob Eiger is doing

502
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Speaker 2: what's best for him. He's not doing what's best for Disney.

503
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: And so many of these CEOs are doing what's best

504
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: for them personally, not best for the company. Because if

505
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Speaker 2: Bob Iger cared about Disney, he would come out and

506
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: say this woke and I wish I could curse on

507
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: the air, but this woke bs is over. Our job

508
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: is to entertain kids and families of all ages, and

509
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 2: this idea of dressing up men as fairy godmothers and

510
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Speaker 2: of remaking Snow White as the multicultural United Colors of

511
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: Benetton ad that is going to fail and doing away

512
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Speaker 2: with dwarfs because we're afraid that it's going to be

513
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Speaker 2: offensive if we have too many dwarfs. Ultimately, the market

514
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: is responding to him. We were talking off air. I

515
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: wish I could sell this Snow White movie short. It's

516
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: coming out in March. It's going to bomb, the likes

517
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: of which you have not seen in years, even for Disney,

518
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: because the overwhelming majority of parents, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic

519
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: are saying, yeah, this is not what we want. And

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00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: I would sell short Disney stock right now, even though

521
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: the stock is not moved in nine years. And this,

522
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: to me, Disney is getting bud lighted and they don't

523
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: want to acknowledge it yet. But a lot of people

524
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: out there are saying, Okay, I'll go spend my money elsewhere,

525
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: and this is becoming significant. It's a big deal. Indiana

526
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: Jones is not doing that well. I went and saw

527
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Speaker 2: it because I love Indiana Jones. They have crushed Star Wars.

528
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: The Marvel franchise is wobbly now and Indiana Jones is

529
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: not doing well, and Bob Igers should have to take

530
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: ownership of this because he allowed it to happen. But

531
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Speaker 2: this is becoming, this is a big trend. They just

532
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Speaker 2: had to shut down a Star Wars hotel. When's the

533
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Speaker 2: last time Disney shut down a hotel because nobody would

534
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Speaker 2: stay in it. I don't think it's ever happened before.

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Speaker 3: I hope that this continues, that the public, the public,

536
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: it's not even outcry decision making. People decide they don't

537
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 3: want this stuff, and the people in charge of making

538
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: it have the economic consequences come along with it. That's

539
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: the only way this stuffs. I mean, it's amazing you

540
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Speaker 3: see this ever, I mean, you know every Netflix show

541
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Speaker 3: now pretty much much that ken. I just there's this

542
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Speaker 3: real push also for anything in the fantasy genre has

543
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Speaker 3: to be the most diverse thing possible, right, So I

544
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: can tell there's and left wing quarters. You know, there's

545
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Speaker 3: a lot of resentment of the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

546
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Speaker 3: You can tell because it wasn't diverse. Lord of the

547
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Speaker 3: Rings trilogy wasn't diverse, and it was one of the

548
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Speaker 3: most game Thrones early on was not diverse. There's a

549
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Speaker 3: bunch of white people, and it made billions of dollars

550
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Speaker 3: The Lord of the Rings franchise, the movies, and so

551
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: now everything that is supposed and look at what did

552
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Speaker 3: anyone even talk about the prequel to the Lord of

553
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Speaker 3: the Rings after like a day when it came out

554
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: on Amazon. Didn't they spend a billion dollars on that? Yeah,

555
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: so I was watching this and I'm like, uh, what

556
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: exactly are we trying to prove here? Like, well, what

557
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Speaker 3: is going on?

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Speaker 2: It was?

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Speaker 3: It was horrible top to bottom, but it also, you know,

560
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Speaker 3: it looked everything has to be like the front page

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Speaker 3: of a of a college college magazine. College magazine today,

562
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Speaker 3: it's great college. If they do a photo of kids

563
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Speaker 3: on a college campus from Harvard or Colgate or wherever,

564
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Speaker 3: it's got to be you know, black guy, Asian girl,

565
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Speaker 3: you know hispanic guy, you know someone is clearly non binary,

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Speaker 3: and like maybe in the back you allow white guy

567
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Speaker 3: if he's not being too prop and like that's every

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Speaker 3: college you know, look book or whatever they call it

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Speaker 3: has to be. That's now the way they make content

570
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: online for Netflix and these other things, and people just

571
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Speaker 3: going like, you know, why, what about every commercial that

572
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Speaker 3: you see on television? Now, if you watched American television advertising,

573
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Speaker 3: you would think that white people are never married. Like

574
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Speaker 3: there is no white man and white woman in any

575
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Speaker 3: almost any commercial.

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Speaker 2: That exists on television. If that's all multi race, it's

577
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Speaker 1: One truth revealed after another Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 3: You know, this isn't a surprise to us at all,

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Speaker 3: but it's something we should note. Anyway. When Democrats get

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Speaker 3: what they want from the Supreme Court, they insist that

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Speaker 3: it is settled law of the land. Sacro sank almost

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Speaker 3: like Moses handing down the Ten Commandments, you know, the tablets.

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Speaker 3: But when they don't get what they want, they just

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Speaker 3: find a way to ignore it, get around it, play games,

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Speaker 3: force further suits to be brought. And it just reminds me, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm reminded of all of that based on the Biden

606
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Speaker 3: administration decision to once again forgive student loans. Now it's

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Speaker 3: a lot smaller in this, and I don't like the

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Speaker 3: term forgive. Wipe away transfer the debt. Perhaps that's a

609
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Speaker 3: better because they're just transferring the debt to the taxpayer.

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Speaker 3: But the Biden administration has announced that it would cancel

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Speaker 3: education debt for eight hundred and four thousand borrowers for

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Speaker 3: a total of thirty nine billion dollars in relief. Now,

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Speaker 3: they were trying for hundreds of billions before and the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court said no, no, you can't just do that,

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Speaker 3: which I think it was four hundred and thirty billion

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Speaker 3: was what the Supreme Court had to say, sorry, and

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Speaker 3: that would have been giving. It would have been effectively

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Speaker 3: delivering money to thirty seven million borrowers in America. I'm

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Speaker 3: just going to point out that we're gonna we're going

620
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Speaker 3: into an election cycle here where they will do everything

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Speaker 3: they can to make you think the economy is better

622
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Speaker 3: than it is and to buy off with your tax

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Speaker 3: dollars as many people as possible. We often talk about Clay,

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Speaker 3: how you've got about twenty some odd thousand votes that

625
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: go a different way in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, and you

626
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Speaker 3: have a different outcome for the twenty twenty election. So

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Speaker 3: while we can look at thirty nine billion dollars for

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Speaker 3: eight hundred thousand borrowers and say well it's small, we're

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Speaker 3: a country of three hundred and forty million people. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but if a hundred thousand of those now, a lot

631
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Speaker 3: of them are probably Democrats, you know, we'd have to

632
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 3: dig into the numbers here, but some of them are

633
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 3: probably independents, some of them probably live in these states.

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Speaker 3: And with with this kind of a maneuver play, it

635
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Speaker 3: reminds me a little bit of what you deal with

636
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Speaker 3: the New York City with rent control. Why is rent

637
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Speaker 3: control impossible to get rid of in New York City

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Speaker 3: because there are something like a million people have rent

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Speaker 3: control apartments in New York and there's different sort of

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Speaker 3: statuses of them. But if you try to touch rent

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Speaker 3: control in New York City, you know what happens. Every

642
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 3: single one of the people with the rent they will

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Speaker 3: go to the mat They will, you know, because it

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Speaker 3: makes a huge difference in their bottom line. How many

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Speaker 3: of these eight hundred thousand borrowers now have been bought

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Speaker 3: off effectively by the Biden administration, assuming this all goes

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Speaker 3: through with tax dollars of other people. This is how

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Speaker 3: Democrats play the game, man. I mean, it's it's like

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Speaker 3: running for student council president and you know, handing out

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Speaker 3: a slice of pizza to everybody to vote for you.

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Speaker 3: Before they're actually casting ballots and using money that you

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Speaker 3: took up for a different collection. That's what they're doing well.

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Speaker 2: And it also speaks to what you're saying about rent

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Speaker 2: control and everything else is once a policy is implemented,

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Speaker 2: once people get used to the idea that they get something,

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Speaker 2: you can ever take it back. And this goes to

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Speaker 2: the psychology of the way people think. Buck, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you've seen these studies. A lot of people won't risk

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Speaker 2: money that they physically have in their hand. They've done

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Speaker 2: studies where they give you a dollar, and if they

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Speaker 2: give you a physical dollar to hold in your hand,

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Speaker 2: you are less likely to risk that dollar because you

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Speaker 2: have it in your possession than if they tell you

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Speaker 2: that you have it. And once you give, and this

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Speaker 2: goes to why entitlement reform is so difficult. Once you

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Speaker 2: tell people, hey, you're gonna get this for social security,

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Speaker 2: you're going to get this for where we now define

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Speaker 2: something in our national discourse as a cut if we

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Speaker 2: merely slow the growth under which some thing is expanding. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they're trying to cut Medicare, they're trying to cut social security. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we're just saying that you can only and this isn't

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Speaker 2: unique to America, by the way, this is basically everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Look at what happened in France when Emmanuel Macrone tried

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Speaker 2: to increase the overall age of retirement, because in France

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Speaker 2: you get a full pension. You did it's something like

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Speaker 2: sixty years old. And I may be a little bit

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Speaker 2: wrong on that, but it's a very youthful I think

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Speaker 2: in many ways age at which you can retire in

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Speaker 2: full benefits and have a pension. Maybe it was sixty two,

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Speaker 2: but not a very old age in general, and they

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Speaker 2: tried to bump it up I think to sixty four.

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Speaker 2: And I may be a little bit off on those numbers,

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Speaker 2: but it's emblematic to the human condition in general. Now,

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Speaker 2: what Biden is trying to do is avoid having to

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Speaker 2: put his policy in front of Congress. Because this is

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Speaker 2: why this was such a clear political ploy, and it's

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00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: somewhat brilliant on a pure political basis. Joe Biden, right

688
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: before midterm elections in twenty twenty two, said I'm forgiving

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Speaker 2: four hundred and forty billion dollars in student loan debt.

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Speaker 2: And if you agree that you shouldn't have to pay

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Speaker 2: your student loan debt. Young people go vote in the

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Speaker 2: midterm elections. Democrats Republicans are going to take this away.

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Speaker 3: And he didn't put it.

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Speaker 2: In front of the House or the Senate because Democrats

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have voted for that policy to pass. And he

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Speaker 2: did it with a unconstitutional justification. Then the Supreme Court says, no,

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Speaker 2: you can't do that. June takes them ten months. They

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Speaker 2: come out and they say, no, you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: It's unconstitutional. And what does he do. He says, this

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Speaker 2: is not a normal court. And in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna run or Democrats will run if it's not

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Speaker 2: Biden on Hey, Republican Supreme Court, all those right wing idiologs,

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Speaker 2: they kept me from giving you relief from your student loans.

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Speaker 2: If you disagree with that, you should go vote against

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Speaker 2: Republicans in twenty twenty four. That's to he told you

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Speaker 2: when this came out, exactly what he was doing. We

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Speaker 2: can tell you the game that he's running, but it

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Speaker 2: works for some of those young voters who aren't sophisticated

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Speaker 2: enough to understand that they're being played and that Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden is doing something that he knows is unconstitutional. In

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Speaker 2: an effort to increase their turnout to vote for him.

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Speaker 3: See, this is my premise right now in this subject

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Speaker 3: to change, and I keep saying I can get I

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Speaker 3: can guarantee that six months from now there'll be things

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Speaker 3: about the political dynamics in this country that will say, wow,

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Speaker 3: if only we had known that, or you know, who

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Speaker 3: could have seen this coming. But if it's if Trump

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Speaker 3: is the nominee, they can count on every Democrat vote

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Speaker 3: I think the last time around to show up for him.

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Speaker 3: This time, Democrats are going to be running a straight

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Speaker 3: up independence in swing states campaign from day one and

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Speaker 3: doing things like this. No one thinks Joe Biden's gonna

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Speaker 3: what's Joe Biden's message going to be? It's a message

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Speaker 3: The Democrat machine is very transactional, right that. Yeah, there'll

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Speaker 3: be emotional manipulation with January sixth and the insurrect But

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00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 3: cash payments, cash handouts to people, that's the kind of

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Speaker 3: stuff that they do. You know, think about it like

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Speaker 3: old school Tammany Hall in New York or the you know,

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Speaker 3: the the Daily Chicago machine. It's you know, it's coins

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Speaker 3: on the barrel for people, right It's it's paying them

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Speaker 3: off it's getting them what they got to get, it's

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Speaker 3: getting their piece of it. And they're very effective. In

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Speaker 3: the same way, they're very effective at creating an ecosystem

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Speaker 3: that makes people want to be left wing lunatic activists

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Speaker 3: and media, et cetera. Because or in the government or

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Speaker 3: in the deep state, right, you'll get your book deal,

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Speaker 3: you'll get your board seat, you'll be taken care of.

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Speaker 3: They figure out what can we do to pay off

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Speaker 3: the voters just enough that they make the wrong decision

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Speaker 3: this time around, and something like this, something like you know,

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Speaker 3: paying off people with student loan debt. It's not huge,

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Speaker 3: but where are they doing it and how are they

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Speaker 3: doing it? I just speaking of that buck. Did you

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Speaker 3: see who has a book coming out? I think in October?

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Speaker 3: The young twenty four year old who testified at the

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Speaker 3: jan six hearings, was that Cassidy Hutchinson. Was that her name?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she got a book deal? What what in

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Speaker 3: the world?

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Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to take a shot at her, right,

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Speaker 2: but she's twenty four years old. There's no way that

751
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: book is interesting. There's no way that book was worth

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Speaker 2: being written. But it just it's.

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Speaker 3: Something that people it's the you know, it's something that

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00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: people will buy to put on their shelf next to

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Speaker 3: their other Trump hate books.

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Speaker 2: That she got a payoff effectively through the book deal.

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Speaker 2: And we didn't even talk about this, but everybody's focused

758
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Speaker 2: on you reading all these articles. Oh, Justice Clarence Thomas

759
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: flew on at somebody's private jet. He's friends with this

760
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Speaker 2: famous billionaire. Look at these relationships. Sonia said to Mayor

761
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Speaker 2: has made almost four million dollars buck off her children's book.

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Speaker 2: You can't tell me that Sonia saw to Mayor is

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Speaker 2: the greatest children's book author of all time.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you this.

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Speaker 2: Four million dollars nearly in book royalties is an insane

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Speaker 2: amount of money to make. What's going on there, She,

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Speaker 2: based on her political connections, is getting all these different

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Speaker 2: libraries and all these different school districts to buy her

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Speaker 2: children's books and put them in I bet it's in

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Speaker 2: every school book. I bet it's in every school library

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Speaker 2: in America right now. Because that's the way she's getting

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Speaker 2: paid off four million dollars.

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Speaker 3: It's not for a lot of people. It's not public

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Speaker 3: service anymore, it's self service. Democrats are totally okay with this.

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Speaker 3: The Clinton's really pioneered it by being incredibly wealthy, peddling

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778
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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: Everyone sort of celebrates that guy who was, you know,

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Speaker 3: not responding to you. It's I've seen the movie multiple times.

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Speaker 3: It's very entertaining. But I do think something gets lost

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Speaker 3: who is a Malaysian guy who it's a long story,

860
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: is a brilliant book, The Billion Dollar Whale, which you

861
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: can read about all this. But effectively, he scammed some

862
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: sovereign wealth funds and used some of that movie of

863
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: some of that money rather to fund that movie. So

864
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 3: it's a movie about a scamster with money taken from

865
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 3: a scam. There is an incredible irony.

866
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: And I believe Leonardo DiCaprio and others had to testify

867
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: at his trial. This Malaysian businessman who was and I

868
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: think there was some political connections as well, right, didn't

869
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 2: he donate money to democrat causes?

870
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, and he's very well, he's very connected in

871
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: China's He's still I have to check and see what

872
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: his status is right now. He was at large last

873
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: time I checked. But yeah, he ripped off a bunch

874
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: of sovereign wealth funds and spent He threw what was

875
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 3: considered them most expensive birthday party in the history of

876
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: Las Vegas at the time, and you can imagine that

877
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 3: was pretty expensive.

878
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: So there's been this big discussion surrounding it. I think

879
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: it ties in with what we were just finishing the

880
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: last hour contemplating here, why are so many people profoundly unhappy,

881
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: particularly young people? And there is if you go look

882
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: at suicidal ideation, there is almost a direct connection between

883
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 2: the rise of social media and mental health challenges that

884
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: have assaulted young people in America. So to me, and

885
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if you agree, And I think about

886
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 2: this a lot as a dad, I think that kids

887
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: getting phones and having access to social media young kids

888
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: in particular, although I think it has had a profound

889
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: impact on much of United States culture, but certainly the

890
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: younger you are, I think the more impactful it has been.

891
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: Kids getting phones has made them profoundly.

892
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 3: Sad as a group.

893
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: And the younger a kid gets a phone, the more

894
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: they are afflicted, I would say, with sadness. And I

895
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: know there are a lot of parents out there who

896
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: are trying to go travel and you pass the iPad

897
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: to your kid to try to distract them, and you

898
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: put on a YouTube kid show. I bet every single

899
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: parent listening to us right now has done that at

900
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: some point in time with a young child. And I

901
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: did it. I got asked. I did the Fatherhood podcast

902
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: buck for Father's Day. It was a really interesting discussion,

903
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 2: and they said, hey, if you could change one thing

904
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: about being a dad in your experience as being a

905
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: dad and my boys are fifteen, twelve, and eight, what

906
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: would you change? And I said, I would give them

907
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: access to a lot less screens. Every parent is imperfect.

908
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: Every mom and dad out there is doing the best

909
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: that we can, and we all go back and we

910
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: look and we say, Okay, I wish I could have

911
00:50:59,000 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 2: done better.

912
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: There all these things.

913
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: Right to me, just giving kids screens and giving them

914
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: perpetual access to them has made them profoundly unhappy at

915
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: young ages when there isn't a real reason for them

916
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,479
Speaker 2: to be profoundly unhappy. You know one thing, you don't

917
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: have kids yet, but like the tech, big tech people

918
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: are often some of the most restrictive about letting their

919
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: kids have access to platform. You know that the screens,

920
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: which should tell you everything that you need to know

921
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 2: about it's.

922
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 3: Meant to be addictive. I mean, you think about the

923
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: history of capitalism, let's say the last well, last one hundred,

924
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: one hundred fifty years. Addictive products are a great way

925
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: to get very very rich, whether it's caffeine or well

926
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: opium in the case of the opium wars. I mean,

927
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff you could look at where

928
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 3: people if you have a product. You know, obviously all

929
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: the illegal drugs that are sold. People would argue pharmaceuticals

930
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 3: that were sold legally that shouldn't have been sold. And

931
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: the screens and the social media apps that we operate

932
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: on them are meant to be. They are engineered to

933
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: take up as much of your time and focus as

934
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 3: they possibly can. And when you're an adult, I think

935
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: you have a fighting chance to say, look, i'm gonna

936
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: spend you know, you and I are active on Twitter,

937
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 3: for example, We'll spend a little time on Twitter, but

938
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: you don't sit there for four hours looking at Twitter.

939
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: Young kids will sit there for four hours. And I

940
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: know now it's become a big thing too, to watch

941
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: other kids play video games online or watch other people

942
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 3: adults play video games wildly popular. Book.

943
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: Same thing with watching other kids play with toys, which

944
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: I never would have believed as popular. Young kids now

945
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: watch other kids open packages just to see what the

946
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 2: toys are inside.

947
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's there's some deeper psychological components of this

948
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 3: I think people should be very aware of. And we're

949
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: the first generations now to have ever had this before.

950
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean I still remember and remember the movie not

951
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: the Wolf of Wall Street but Wall Street, the Everstone

952
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: Classic with Charlie Sheen and Michael Douglas maybe Michael Douglas's

953
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: greatest role as Gordon Gecko. But he talks about Rudy,

954
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: his son. It's very brief line, but he's like, look

955
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 3: at this, I got him. And it's a TV that

956
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 3: has like a little black and white screen that's three

957
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: by three, but it's portable. And that you know, in

958
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: the mid eighties or whatever, to have a TV that

959
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: you could carry around in your pocket was just look

960
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: at what we deal with. Now you're walking around, you

961
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: have more computing power than the people that were working

962
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 3: at NASA sending spaceships as you know, rockets into outer space.

963
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: So things have changed a lot. And on the social

964
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: media side, we look at the what this does to

965
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 3: young girls, and I think it's particularly damaging. I also

966
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 3: think that young men should be aware. This is why

967
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 3: the liver King situation that was particularly ridiculous because that

968
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 3: guy obviously was taking steroids. The amount of influencer individuals

969
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: who are you know, actors included in this, not just

970
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: sort of fitness guys who are on steroids would blow

971
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: people's minds. And there are now podcasts I mean there's

972
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: more plates, more dates. Have you. Are you familiar with

973
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 3: this guy? No, I don't. Oh yeah, oh, he's got

974
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: a big following. You know, it's really interesting and he

975
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 3: looks at these people who are hey, like, do this

976
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 3: and you'll be as strong as me, and he can

977
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: look at them be like that guy is They call

978
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 3: it running a cycle. That guy's on steroids. Everybody. Yeah,

979
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 3: so you know, if you want to do steroids, if

980
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 3: you want to take anabolic steroids like you know, tremblone

981
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: and you know, then you can look like him. But

982
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 3: if you're not doing that, your chance of looking like

983
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: him as zero. It's not about eating bull testicles like

984
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: Liver King said or anything else. But this is just

985
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: all goes to male female. There are its illusions. People

986
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: are being lied to all the time on these platforms

987
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: about what they're seeing, and if they don't know it

988
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: and there's not enough of a of an understanding in

989
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: the public about it, I think it can have really

990
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 3: negative perception. But it's about the cla It's true of

991
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: wealth too. You go online, everybody's driving a Maserati, everybody's

992
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 3: in front of their ten million dollar beach house, or

993
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 3: they're thirty million dollar you know, Aspen Ski retreat or whatever.

994
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: That's actually not reality. Most people are trying to just

995
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: pay the bills and afford groceries and pay their rent

996
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 3: on time.

997
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the reason why I brought up Margot Robbie

998
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: to start, I want to circle back around to it

999
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: is there's this argument now online as this new Barbie

1000
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: movie prepares to come out about whether Margot Robbie is

1001
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 2: attractive or not, or whether she is what they call

1002
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: mid which means basically average.

1003
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 3: And you saw the tweet, right, There's one tweet that

1004
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: set off this whole. There was a tweet that said

1005
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 3: that she's a seven, as in a seven out of ten,

1006
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: and this went completely ultra viral, started a huge If

1007
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: it was a troll, it was a world class troll

1008
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 3: because million tens of millions of comments and things on

1009
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: this or you know, clicks on this. And so to

1010
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: your point, we used to have remember was it Robin

1011
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 3: Leech Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous back in the day,

1012
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 3: and it was on television and he would he had

1013
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 3: this fabulous accent, and he would go show yachts, and

1014
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: he would go show houses and everything else.

1015
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: But it was a level of remove. It ties in

1016
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: with what I was saying in the last hour. Now

1017
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: everybody is trying to sell the idea that they live

1018
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: a lifestyle of the rich and the famous, and they

1019
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: give an artificial version of themselves. But I'm saying it's

1020
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: even tied in with people like Margo Robbie, who are,

1021
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 2: by objective measures, gorgeous, making money off not only being

1022
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: a talented actress, but off being incredibly good looking, which

1023
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 2: often goes hand in hand in Hollywood. Right there aren't

1024
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: a lot of super ugly people who become very wealthy

1025
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: as actors or actresses. But if the standard is being

1026
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: set of, oh, this person is not that good looking,

1027
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: the judgment on it is I think through the roof.

1028
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: So if you're an average person, if you're an average

1029
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: fourteen year old girl and you've got braces, or fourteen

1030
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: year old boy for that matter, and you've got braces

1031
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: and you've got acne, and you're looking at this artificial

1032
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: lifestyle that is being propagated on TikTok and being propagated

1033
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: on Instagram all the time, and it involves not just

1034
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: super famous people you would never have access to, but

1035
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: the prettiest girl or the most athletic guy in your life.

1036
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: It can feel like you could never ascend to that

1037
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: level and make you profoundly unhappy. And I think that's

1038
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 2: what's going on every day, Buck, I think that's why

1039
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: there's a great glut of the younger you are, the

1040
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: less happy you are, and we're setting all time records

1041
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: for these people being unhappy. And then it also adds in,

1042
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: I don't even understand this, Buck, You'll learn this when

1043
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: you get older. Teenagers don't interact as much as they

1044
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: used to. Everybody used to want to get their driver's license,

1045
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: and then everybody wanted to go hang out at the mall,

1046
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: or go hang out and watch a movie, or go

1047
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: get whatever you know, fast food together and park in.

1048
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: A parking lot.

1049
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: Now they all interact on social media, so a lot

1050
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: of them stay inside their house. There's less of a

1051
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: friendship bubble. I would say that surrounds you, and instead

1052
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: you're all kind of isolated on your phones all day.

1053
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: And I see this happen with my own kids. I

1054
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: try to get them outside. I'm happy when they're outside.

1055
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: I loved that the fact they play so many sports

1056
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: and they have so many extracurricular activities. But I bet

1057
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: every parent and a lot of grandparents right now are

1058
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: listening to us kind of nodding. It's totally different world.

1059
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: Totally different world, and it's changed instantaneously in a way

1060
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: that I don't think we've understood yet.

1061
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember in New York City as an

1062
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 3: eighth grader, we would with my friends, we would have

1063
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 3: to do a telephone change. Oh yeah, because the way

1064
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: we would get together to play usually it was basketball,

1065
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: sometimes it would be baseball in the park was we'd

1066
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 3: have to get you know, I'd call so and so

1067
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: and then he'd call so and so. We'd get ten

1068
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 3: of us together in the park and we would run games.

1069
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: And like now, I mean, it's just think about that

1070
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: and you have to call and say hi, missus, so

1071
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: and so. Can I speak to you know, Bobby? And

1072
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: then you know, there was all this different interaction that

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