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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Yeah, man, um, tell me what's what it's
Speaker 1: like to be and m m a fighter because you
Speaker 1: know boxing is my background. I've always had a problem
Speaker 1: with people kicking me like I thought kicking with disrespectful shit.
Speaker 1: Ever do you ever feel that way? Was somebody kick you,
Speaker 1: does it turn up something in you? I mean when
Speaker 1: I was younger, we fall in the street a lot,
Speaker 1: fought in gangs. I falled like just a fight for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I grew up in St. Louis and fighting was just
Speaker 1: a way of life. Um So for me, karate was
Speaker 1: a big thing because Karate Kid that came out. So
Speaker 1: we was doing mad KARATEI in the crib. I remember
Speaker 1: my my daughter would not kick me in the face
Speaker 1: so hard, and my you know, you get that headache
Speaker 1: in the back of your eyeball. He mean kicking me
Speaker 1: in these I had a headache in the back of
Speaker 1: my eyeball so bad. But I told myself, you bet
Speaker 1: not cry, you bet not cry, You better not cry.
Speaker 1: I just how old, I mean, probably like ten you
Speaker 1: still crying? You get kicking the nose at thirties in
Speaker 1: the nose right now? So so I was. I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of like where I kind of built that
Speaker 1: extra layer of skin that like, even if something hurt,
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to show nobody her. So the
Speaker 1: kicking part came later, Like I really, most of my fights.
Speaker 1: I don't do a lot of kicking. Um. I wanted
Speaker 1: to box my whole life, but my mom would never
Speaker 1: let me box. So that was the only sport that
Speaker 1: I really, really really wanted to do that I never did.
Speaker 1: My grandfather was a big boxing promoter in St. Louis
Speaker 1: and Detroit, Cash, just Clay, everybody you can think of.
Speaker 1: He promoted everybody, so it's kind of my blood. Everybody Spinks,
Speaker 1: Corey Spinks, um so we um. I wrestled in college
Speaker 1: and when I graduated college, the Ultimate Fighter Show came
Speaker 1: out and I was like, let me give it a
Speaker 1: try because I couldn't start boxing that at that age
Speaker 1: because I was twenty three years old. Most people started
Speaker 1: boxing and as teenagers, so I said, let me try
Speaker 1: this Emma thing. And I was a coach at first,
Speaker 1: teaching people to wrestlant stop people from taking them down,
Speaker 1: because that's when the wrestler was coming in and and taking
Speaker 1: everybody down and couldn't stop it. So I was kind
Speaker 1: of like the the ob So I was teaching them
Speaker 1: how to stop the wrestlers from taking them down. And
Speaker 1: I was sparring so much and training so much two
Speaker 1: and three days because I was like the number one
Speaker 1: coach in the country. Everybody flew me out to training. Yeah, nobody.
Speaker 1: I was a number one coach for for wrestling because
Speaker 1: nobody knew how to handle the wrestler. So I was
Speaker 1: in such your shape, I'm like, well, let me just
Speaker 1: try this. So I just really got an emvac kind
Speaker 1: of trying it out, and I said shot out. Since
Speaker 1: I'm man, here's go ahead and go cradit with it.
Speaker 1: But you started very young. I mean you you you
Speaker 1: were on the wrestling Did you want a championship on
Speaker 1: the on the collegiate level? You want the championship on
Speaker 1: the high school level, and you won the championship on
Speaker 1: the pro level, you know, I mean like you got
Speaker 1: that transpective thing. Yeah, I want a couple of state
Speaker 1: championships in high school. And then I went to University
Speaker 1: of Missouri. I was All American and when they first
Speaker 1: Big two title that they ever had at the cool
Speaker 1: and then UM had over a hundred of something victories,
Speaker 1: so I'm in the record books there and they just
Speaker 1: put me in the Hall of Fame. And then I
Speaker 1: went on the m m A and I won five
Speaker 1: UFC titles and that's just kind of where people kind
Speaker 1: of know me from. But more importantly, I just I
Speaker 1: never wanted to be boxing. Everybody wanted me to do
Speaker 1: one thing and they wanted me to just be one person.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm an artist, so I do everything music, TV, production, fighting, really,
Speaker 1: painting and art. So anything, um um like the w
Speaker 1: W E w w W. Yeah, I was on. I
Speaker 1: was in the training account for the w W. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was in as a motherfucker. And it's so dog,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to take Let me tell you what it is.
Speaker 1: What you're doing is real. Now. You asked me if
Speaker 1: it's real? All right now if I don't want to
Speaker 1: get a ghost up, but I'll tell you what though.
Speaker 1: I got a humeboy in a book. It to you right,
Speaker 1: He liked, yeah, but book you want a whole lot
Speaker 1: of championships, man, and he stood up right. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this big old motherfucking I'm like, man, I
Speaker 1: choked slam and ship out of the tea and he
Speaker 1: probably thought something different that w W crazy man. I
Speaker 1: looked at the man and said, I choked show him
Speaker 1: to shoot out of chef. That's when reality hits you,
Speaker 1: like would beat your Now that real training is real
Speaker 1: and hurts turn up. You gotta hear so hard ninety
Speaker 1: nine all over again. You called the chief with where's
Speaker 1: Jake bring the boat? Shouts out to my home way
Speaker 1: Book of Tea. No, that's my dog man like like
Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard to um um, it's hard to fake,
Speaker 1: like dropping the motherfucker, you know what I mean. Hit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a big gass wrestling fan from a little kid.
Speaker 1: I don't really watch it right now. So after I
Speaker 1: smelled what the rock was cooking? That was it? That
Speaker 1: that smell? The does The thing about it is like
Speaker 1: imagine like if you're fighting in real life, a lot
Speaker 1: of time adrenalin gonna take over. Right, you do feel
Speaker 1: that pain and you feel like afterwards, So if somebody
Speaker 1: clothesline you for real, boom you but offen it goes
Speaker 1: crazy on it, right, But when you know it's coming
Speaker 1: and you gotta look like you don't and you gotta
Speaker 1: hit it and take the fall, like in a way
Speaker 1: where it looks tragic that ship hurt because it's not
Speaker 1: really adrenaline. Adrenaling is like I'm in this, but when
Speaker 1: you're actually going through whatever they're doing, like I did it.
Speaker 1: It's a whole different thing because I've been wrestling. I've
Speaker 1: been slammed. I've slammed people know it ain't nobody doing that.
Speaker 1: M How cold are you find not? Yeah? How would you?
Speaker 1: Two hundred right? You can get done to you tell
Speaker 1: us how you got even even got interested in wrestling,
Speaker 1: because you know a lot of our kids, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of black kids that you know come from
Speaker 1: my background. You know, we grow up and we had
Speaker 1: this idea of being a rapper or an athlete, and
Speaker 1: you chose, and the wrestling is it is. That's not
Speaker 1: the basketball, but it's not stereotypical basketball and football at
Speaker 1: a fighter, you know, but but wrestling it is one
Speaker 1: of those things we don't that's not typically on you
Speaker 1: from throwing off off the top because they're looking at
Speaker 1: it like it's a little heart, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a tight uniform. And most kids ain't
Speaker 1: really checking for that. They want like bagging sharks. They
Speaker 1: want socks, they wanted they want look cool stuff. They
Speaker 1: want to make jump shots. They don't want to have
Speaker 1: ugly years. And you know what I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to shave your face face with her look crazy so
Speaker 1: for me, I was I was really My coach said, hey,
Speaker 1: we got wrestling practice today. You come to wrestling practice.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I ain't coming to the wrestling practice.
Speaker 1: So he like grabbing me up, like you know, you
Speaker 1: come into practice. So I went. But in my mind
Speaker 1: it's w W So I'm in there ready for the ropes.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to jump off some stuff. But I don't
Speaker 1: know that it's not that kind of wrest I never
Speaker 1: heard of regular wrestling. So I went into practice and
Speaker 1: then I didn't know no moves that It wasna like
Speaker 1: my first day. Everybody had already started and he was like, um,
Speaker 1: you played football. I said yeah, I played football and
Speaker 1: he said you know how to tackle somebody and I
Speaker 1: said yeah. So he said that's all you gotta do
Speaker 1: is tackle him and trying to smash that back to
Speaker 1: the mat. And then that's how that's pretty much the
Speaker 1: just a wrestling. So he was in practice and I
Speaker 1: was young, and when I was young, I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't know to think, and I didn't know the care.
Speaker 1: So I was just slamming everybody boom boom boom boom
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom, and he was like, we gotta
Speaker 1: wrestling tournament tomorrow. You should come to the wrestling tournament.
Speaker 1: I remember, I only got one day of practice. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what the movis is call. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's illegal. I don't know nothing. So I went
Speaker 1: to this tournament and I wrestled this kid, and everybody
Speaker 1: was like getting warmed up. And I don't even know
Speaker 1: how to warm up. I don't really don't their names moves.
Speaker 1: So I rushed his kid, I shook his hand. I
Speaker 1: all I remembers football tackle. So I picked him up
Speaker 1: and I slammed him so hard. He had his tongue
Speaker 1: out of his mouth right and bit down in the
Speaker 1: tip of his tongue. He bit the tip of his
Speaker 1: tongue off. It was blood on the matter is blood everywhere.
Speaker 1: And I was freaked. I'm like, I'm broke. I can't
Speaker 1: pay for this mother hospital bills. But every all the
Speaker 1: kids was around me was scared to me after that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I like this. I like the
Speaker 1: way that felt when they was when they feared me
Speaker 1: a little bit. So then I won that tournament, and
Speaker 1: there was history after that. I just kept wrestling, but
Speaker 1: I never if someone would have showed me the uniform,
Speaker 1: told me the wrestling. I saw a match, I would
Speaker 1: have never did it. It is, man, because it's no
Speaker 1: way I'm still yeah. I mean it's it takes a
Speaker 1: lot of energy, like somebody like trying to force their
Speaker 1: position on you as you're trying to resist it. It's
Speaker 1: never in their static straining basketball. You can relax a
Speaker 1: little bit, but imagine being tense and flexed the whole
Speaker 1: time and always every little move it's like a next
Speaker 1: chain move you gotta be ready for. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a chess match, like a static strength chess match, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I can't. I can't imagine, like don't
Speaker 1: you have to like get on forward and then somebody
Speaker 1: get on top of you and then y'all go from
Speaker 1: there and some ship you gotta try to escape, like
Speaker 1: from the bottom position. So a lot of people aren't
Speaker 1: good at that. I was terrible at that. When I
Speaker 1: first started, I was like I was really smart. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna take this dude down a lot
Speaker 1: five six times, Okay, So I'm gonna be up by
Speaker 1: mad points. I'm gonna defer to him. I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: him pick the choice, he's gonna pick down, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let him up. I'm gonna take him down some more
Speaker 1: so I can kind of break your spirit. Now in
Speaker 1: the last round, if I choose to go down, then
Speaker 1: he's not gonna pin me. He only got two minutes.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna make up the points. So I want
Speaker 1: a lot of matches that way. Or I said, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like going down. I just want neutral, so
Speaker 1: I went back on my feet. So I was before
Speaker 1: I got to college, I never really learned how to
Speaker 1: get away from the bottom. And then I spent one
Speaker 1: whole year when my coaches made me learn how to
Speaker 1: get away from the bottom. And the only match as
Speaker 1: I ever lost, I was like forty seven and seven.
Speaker 1: I won a crapot match in my freshman year. All
Speaker 1: seven matches I couldn't get away from bottom. The only
Speaker 1: way to somebody beat me. And then when you learn
Speaker 1: to get away from yeah, because black black athletes and
Speaker 1: wrestling are the same stigma as other sports. Strong, athletic, explosive, right,
Speaker 1: but wrestling is a very skilled sport. So most African
Speaker 1: Americans to get off the bottom position as a mindset,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let another man, keep me down. I
Speaker 1: gotta get the funk up. That's really all it bolls out.
Speaker 1: So it's technique to get up. But when you sircumminists,
Speaker 1: except I can't get away all. Uh, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: when we say now. Nor if you keep trying to
Speaker 1: get up and everything you got, it's so hard to
Speaker 1: maintain top position when somebody's fighting hard to get up,
Speaker 1: most likely gonna let you up. So when I got
Speaker 1: that mindset, it kind of separated me. So I didn't
Speaker 1: want people to look at me as just an athlete
Speaker 1: that was strong and explosive and fast and had an
Speaker 1: extra calf muscle, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: had some matter. I lost. I was tired. I was
Speaker 1: cutting too much weight, so I lost. When my freshman
Speaker 1: year in college, I was in the match to be
Speaker 1: an All American as a freshman, which is like not
Speaker 1: very likely. In that match, I lost in overtime because
Speaker 1: I was too tired to defend myself. And I told myself,
Speaker 1: that's the last time that severn l happened to me.
Speaker 1: I made Cardiff Cardio. I made it in my life
Speaker 1: because you know, when you think about an athlete, we're
Speaker 1: just not getting to the point where we're accepting the
Speaker 1: quarterback is an African American athlete, right, the skill positions
Speaker 1: are golf or something different like that. Right, We're looked
Speaker 1: at running back and basketball players and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I tell my kids, you have to be in
Speaker 1: shape more than everybody else because everybody looking for you
Speaker 1: to fade. Like they used to say in college, chocolate melts.
Speaker 1: It's mad, disrespectful, mad racist. That means that if you
Speaker 1: keep putting pressure on the African American wrestler, they'll break.
Speaker 1: So coaches used to say chocolate melts. So when you
Speaker 1: wrestle an African American wrestler, the rest of you to
Speaker 1: try to beat us is be really square, grab our risks,
Speaker 1: control our hands, block all the shots, let you try,
Speaker 1: let you try to, let you gas out, and then
Speaker 1: try to go after you. Yeah, how receptive was your
Speaker 1: family and you're pursuing wrestling In wrestling, that was really
Speaker 1: receptive because you know, um, nobody ever did it in
Speaker 1: my family. Um, nobody really ever did it in my neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Actually my next one neighbor wrestle a little bit, but
Speaker 1: outside of that and had nobody else that wrestled um.
Speaker 1: The thing they took card was fighting because I was
Speaker 1: such a you know, wrestling. I got a college degree,
Speaker 1: I went on I was an All American. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like a Schlussick sport, and fighting at that time
Speaker 1: wasn't making money. It was kind of like a bar
Speaker 1: like bar fighting. So my mom was like, what's going
Speaker 1: on you? You're gonna through identity crisis and what's wrong
Speaker 1: with you? Like like they was worried about me because
Speaker 1: why am I doing this fighting? So I got a
Speaker 1: college degree, I'm a coach, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 1: did this whole thing. Why I'm All American? Why am
Speaker 1: I going into this crazy fighting bars for free? I
Speaker 1: fought for free for three years. But I just I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just want to do it in adrenaline.
Speaker 1: But I felt bad when I first started doing it
Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm telling my friend, I said, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like I can kill somebody with my hands.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's godly or no. I felt
Speaker 1: like I felt like if I wanted to, I could,
Speaker 1: But then I don't know if that was a good thing.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. But think think about this, how
Speaker 1: many times they've been warning it, looking the Bible, looking
Speaker 1: at any religion, people have been warn forever, right, So
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Man. I know how you feel
Speaker 1: really because like when you especially when you're in tiptop shake, yeah,
Speaker 1: you feel like you can beat the world, like anybody
Speaker 1: can get it. Yeah, with your with your bad hands.
Speaker 1: Like like right now, I feel like anybody across right
Speaker 1: directly across. I feel like I feel like I'm would
Speaker 1: be mediating, afficiating this never to get up what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I see right now, I'm gonna be right in the
Speaker 1: middle officiating. Yeah, Willy has always been violent. Man. My
Speaker 1: my question is that does professional wrestling like the wrestling
Speaker 1: that you did, does that does that pay like a
Speaker 1: nice check? Na? I mean in collegian wrestling, the professional
Speaker 1: wrestling is to w W, So that's what professional because
Speaker 1: they make money. They call the wrestling that we do.
Speaker 1: Collegiate wrestling is really amateur because you can't be a
Speaker 1: professional go to the Olympics. So when these guys go
Speaker 1: to the Olympics, you don't make money in to the
Speaker 1: Olympics and they only make money. So when you go
Speaker 1: into the the w W E and that kind of ship.
Speaker 1: I don't like calling names, so bleep that ship. I
Speaker 1: meanmor yo. But when you go into that part of
Speaker 1: wrestling that's considered pro wrestling, that's consider pro wrestling, that's
Speaker 1: what makes money. Yeah, amateur wrestling is the actual sport
Speaker 1: that you see in collegiate or Olympics. You you can
Speaker 1: get sponsorships where they like, I'm sponsored by UM, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Sun Kiss Kids or Dave Schultz or something
Speaker 1: like that. They'll they'll like you, they'll give you a
Speaker 1: little bit of money. It'd be like fire in front
Speaker 1: of house of money would be some nothing UM uniforms gear.
Speaker 1: And then when you go you have a past to
Speaker 1: say he wrestled with Sun Kiss Kids or Dave Schultz.
Speaker 1: And some people thought that was a flex. But even
Speaker 1: when you win the Olympics, like these guys aren't even
Speaker 1: getting a million bucks. That's the top of the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're getting hundreds of thousands. Maybe if that m I
Speaker 1: feel like you had a gold medal and from Olympics,
Speaker 1: you should be getting the whole whole tickets where they
Speaker 1: get their money from endorsements, right, that's where the money comes.
Speaker 1: They ain't getting the money. That's why I I'm doing.
Speaker 1: That's why I said I'm done doing freestyle because that's
Speaker 1: what I feel like. I'm doing it for free. That's
Speaker 1: the support. Uh, that's the genre. So it's greco Roman
Speaker 1: when you can't touch the legs and freestyles. When you
Speaker 1: see the guys throwing that can do the regular takens,
Speaker 1: that's the international. So I said, I ain't doing free
Speaker 1: something more. I can wrestle somebody in the M M
Speaker 1: A fight and make money. So then I just makes
Speaker 1: martial arts. Um, that's where the money is in the
Speaker 1: m M is now there. It wasn't there before when
Speaker 1: I got into it. It wasn't I found the first
Speaker 1: three years for free or ticket sales. I remember my
Speaker 1: first payday was three hundred bucks five hundred and I
Speaker 1: thought I was living Levita Local when I made a
Speaker 1: thousand fight. Knowing that you were part of the people
Speaker 1: that built M M M A to what it is
Speaker 1: now and that you didn't get the money that you
Speaker 1: perhaps should have gotten back then, you know, uh, how
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? And and and what are
Speaker 1: you doing to make sure that you don't like just
Speaker 1: leave that all behind and throw it away because you
Speaker 1: still have some great influence. You still have a a name,
Speaker 1: you got a brand, and you can still get money
Speaker 1: in in that like are you doing anything? I can
Speaker 1: get money more than I was able to get then,
Speaker 1: because I'm the only free agent in the sport and
Speaker 1: combat sports. No other fighter can say they can go
Speaker 1: and fight anywhere in any place, in any country, any
Speaker 1: format of combat kickboxing, boxing, m m A and get
Speaker 1: paid the top dollars. Now I'm in a position, but
Speaker 1: I had to get out of a contract. I had
Speaker 1: to get out of every time I want the UFC title,
Speaker 1: they extended my contract another year or another actually a
Speaker 1: four twelve twelve colands a year. So when you won,
Speaker 1: it was good because you're making more money. But you
Speaker 1: can't go and see the free market in the free agency.
Speaker 1: So I can leave the UFC make four times an
Speaker 1: amount of money I made as a champion. Now I
Speaker 1: look back and I look at you know me, all
Speaker 1: the battles I fall, and I was a guy that
Speaker 1: was just they marked me as like the public enemy.
Speaker 1: I was like the Tupac m m A. Because I
Speaker 1: still don't want I stood on. I never been I
Speaker 1: never buckled. I never let the industry pay buy me out.
Speaker 1: And all the fighters that are now speaking up for themselves.
Speaker 1: I know I was always a trailblazer in the Pioneer.
Speaker 1: So yesterday they had a fight, and I looked at
Speaker 1: all the outs and guys that are not even the
Speaker 1: main event are making the same amount of money I
Speaker 1: was making as an undisputed reigning defending champion, right and
Speaker 1: the guys they just won his first title ever made
Speaker 1: double the amount of money I made in my last fight,
Speaker 1: which would have been my fifth Tide of Defense. So
Speaker 1: I can look at that in crowdspiel Milk, But I
Speaker 1: can also look at I paid that way because now
Speaker 1: the conversations are different when you're go into the office
Speaker 1: to talk to boss. But when I go to the
Speaker 1: table to get paid, people already know don't come to
Speaker 1: me with peanuts. You know, Like I'm in a negotiation
Speaker 1: right now and they want to they want to pay
Speaker 1: me x, X, Y and Z, And then I'm like,
Speaker 1: we can't do that. If you do it, this person's
Speaker 1: gonna hear about it and they're gonna try to do it.
Speaker 1: You're not about to do that. You only I turned
Speaker 1: out a couple of things I kind of learned like
Speaker 1: that maybe I shouldn't have. But then guy got a
Speaker 1: way of bringing it back. How did the Jake Paul
Speaker 1: fights come come about? You know, I was actually cornering
Speaker 1: my homie, been asking, been asking, got a fight, and
Speaker 1: once again he had retired from the UFC right and
Speaker 1: he got permission, provisional permission because he still was technically
Speaker 1: a contract to a fight. Jake Um, he helped me
Speaker 1: win world titles. He was my teammate in college, multiple
Speaker 1: time national champion, world champion. M a fighter, he's a
Speaker 1: legend and Um he's been there for me for a
Speaker 1: lot of fights. And he's a He's a wrestler that cardio.
Speaker 1: You can't even compare nobody to his cardio. He'll he'll
Speaker 1: never get tired in a million years. But when I
Speaker 1: was getting into top Shade, he was my measuring stick
Speaker 1: and he would always let me know you ready to go.
Speaker 1: And I always appreciate that. So when he asked me
Speaker 1: to help him out, I said, I'm there. I said,
Speaker 1: I got my own stuff coming up. He said, I
Speaker 1: don't even need to train with you, I just want
Speaker 1: you to be at the fight. So I was king
Speaker 1: for him at the fight. We get backstage and Um,
Speaker 1: de's Jake and his crew. They mean they came from
Speaker 1: the YouTube world. Everything is a prank, Everything is a guy.
Speaker 1: That's the way they take it to make it light.
Speaker 1: I bet you can't do this. So I'm gonna fight
Speaker 1: this guy that's a champion. If he wins and losers,
Speaker 1: he can't really lose, right. So I went in the
Speaker 1: back and I'm like, all right, let me check your gloves.
Speaker 1: Make sure you ain't throwing the fucking you know, I
Speaker 1: mean brickson or something like that, So you have to
Speaker 1: go and check the gloves upon it. Him and his
Speaker 1: guys are kind of like trying to like rough with
Speaker 1: my feathers to try to play the mind game. And
Speaker 1: I was like, if you know me, you really know
Speaker 1: I don't look around like that, So yeah, I can
Speaker 1: say whatever you want. Let's he just to get these
Speaker 1: gloves six. So then they started trying to go back
Speaker 1: and forth, and I'm thinking to myself. Part of me
Speaker 1: is like, I will smack the dude. The second part
Speaker 1: is you're Dudefinn get the biggest pay that he ever got.
Speaker 1: Protected back. Don't don't do no boysh it. This ain't
Speaker 1: your fight. You're here for your dog. So I kind
Speaker 1: of let it go right at the end of the fight,
Speaker 1: my dog lost, and then he said I want to
Speaker 1: see Tyra fight him. I'm like, I'll fight him ship
Speaker 1: And then after that all the fans wanted to see
Speaker 1: me fight him. So I never really like politics for
Speaker 1: a fight with the dude. Everybody else want to fight
Speaker 1: him because he's paying a lot of money, right, paying
Speaker 1: a lot of money. So I got the fight based
Speaker 1: eilely because of what I did, and the fans wanted
Speaker 1: to see him. Okay, So so the fight, the first fight,
Speaker 1: it go down and well, I can't remember, can you
Speaker 1: hear me? Remember? How did? How did it end? As
Speaker 1: far I know? You lost the first the first the
Speaker 1: first fight was um. First fight was a split decision,
Speaker 1: So two judges said that he won and one just
Speaker 1: said that I want Um. I thought I wanted to
Speaker 1: fight because the first four rounds was kind of the
Speaker 1: filling out rounds, right, But in the fourth rounds when
Speaker 1: I knocked them through the ropes, technically that's a knockdown.
Speaker 1: They didn't call it a knockdown. You if the ropes
Speaker 1: is the only thing to keep you up, it should
Speaker 1: be knockdown. Um. We went into the ring. The ropes
Speaker 1: was to the back of my head that side. I've
Speaker 1: never seen the rope that high in my life. And
Speaker 1: they were really loose, right, So my coach made he
Speaker 1: made a complaint about it. They tightened up the ropes.
Speaker 1: When they tightened up the ropes, that's what actually brought
Speaker 1: him back into the fight. So they would have left
Speaker 1: the ropes to where it was when I hit him,
Speaker 1: he would have hit the ropes and he would have
Speaker 1: sat to his ass. But he sprung back forward after
Speaker 1: I hit him, So I hit him. He went through ropes,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm gonna try to send him through
Speaker 1: the ropes. So when I when he bounced back, he
Speaker 1: called me out here boom. So now I'm like, my
Speaker 1: damn arm is mess up? Like finished the fight. I'm
Speaker 1: like my orphan, like he's out of sockets. So then
Speaker 1: I just started swinging crazy. I won that round. I
Speaker 1: won the fifth round, I won a sixth round, and
Speaker 1: run the seventh round, one eighth round. If you do
Speaker 1: the math, four or five, six, seven, eight, if I
Speaker 1: went five out of eight rounds, is no way he
Speaker 1: could have won. Even if you clearly won the first
Speaker 1: three rounds and he never knocked me down, so I
Speaker 1: just felt like the fight was in Cleveland, Ohio, where
Speaker 1: he's from. The whole storyline was about this emerging YouTuber
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, so it makes sense for the
Speaker 1: storyline for me to win the fight, I would have
Speaker 1: had to knock him out. So the second time we fall,
Speaker 1: I was actually set filming Cobra Kai. I was filming
Speaker 1: the Cobra Kad in Atlanta, and I got a call
Speaker 1: from his manager and said, his opponent can't fight. Can
Speaker 1: you fight? I said, let's go two weeks so I
Speaker 1: jumped into the mix. I started. I did fourteen hours
Speaker 1: of filming. I started training three or four in the morning.
Speaker 1: Right when I got done a filming, whatever time it was,
Speaker 1: we trained, went to sleep. I did that for two weeks.
Speaker 1: I got in shape and I told you, I said,
Speaker 1: I'm looking better shape than him. I'm gonna look He's
Speaker 1: gonna be the one that looks hard. And though I
Speaker 1: lost the fight, though I started for the knockout. The
Speaker 1: first six rounds out of eight, I was smashing him
Speaker 1: and he threw one punch at the same time I
Speaker 1: dropped my hand and landed the punch. But I can't
Speaker 1: take away from everything building up training for this fight,
Speaker 1: getting prepared with two weeks notice, and being in better
Speaker 1: shape than he was was that was actually the victory.
Speaker 1: But but Jake's bigger than me. But he I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly how much he weighs. But I feel like
Speaker 1: if we walk out this door and somebody get in
Speaker 1: my face, I'm not gonna check their weight. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna check their background. I'm not gonna check their record.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to funk him up. Well, that's absolutely true.
Speaker 1: But but talking about to be in croas proximity and
Speaker 1: a person can lean on you for three three minutes,
Speaker 1: I never felt I never felt that. I never felt
Speaker 1: the lean. He wasn't a good clincher anyway, that's when
Speaker 1: he was he they broke the fight up too much
Speaker 1: because I was actually working them to the body. Um
Speaker 1: my wrestling background, I was very good in the clinch.
Speaker 1: So though people maybe bigger than me, like I work
Speaker 1: with my homie Jay Glazier in um in l A
Speaker 1: and I work with a lot of NFL guys and
Speaker 1: they call it m m athletics. So I trained them
Speaker 1: in martial arts. But trying to make a statis shrint
Speaker 1: for like their sport. None of those heavyweights, none of
Speaker 1: those guys, they will be tongue out falling over because
Speaker 1: I just know how to move the person. He were
Speaker 1: waiting at one ninety two. That's what I walk around
Speaker 1: that one two. So I don't feel like I lost
Speaker 1: that much weight. I mean I had some. I had some.
Speaker 1: He had the height of light heavyweight, right something cruiserweight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you came in one night. I came in and one Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I didn't mind that because I killed my body
Speaker 1: for so many years. Man, I made one seventy from
Speaker 1: two hundred, two hundred and five my entire m maker
Speaker 1: and my dog could tell you many times it was
Speaker 1: not cute watching me make weight the last point two
Speaker 1: or point three, like I'm damn there dead. And did
Speaker 1: you make more money like with those two fights with
Speaker 1: Jake than you than you have made during your career? No,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people, a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I want to believe that, And I just let people
Speaker 1: know what they know. Fans know everything, like right, according
Speaker 1: to the fans, I'm retired. According to the fans. Uh,
Speaker 1: the fight was fixed. According to the fans, I made
Speaker 1: the most money I've ever made, but I've had m
Speaker 1: a fight squard. I made millions of dollars. I mean
Speaker 1: I made three million dollars on my fight. So people
Speaker 1: think that I'm just not getting to the money. That
Speaker 1: was the first big purse, but we had a pay
Speaker 1: review structure, like I fought on a car. Madison Square Garden,
Speaker 1: the first ever UFC fight in New York City, Madison
Speaker 1: Square Garden. We have the biggest gate. Nobody's ever topped it,
Speaker 1: not jay Z, not Ali. We got the top gate
Speaker 1: every Madison Square Garden, the best card in receipts put
Speaker 1: out but um but on that card, I had to
Speaker 1: fight in the night out of every fight and it's
Speaker 1: still today the best car they ever had. So I
Speaker 1: made money. I made the most in a purse for
Speaker 1: that fight, but I made in pay per view structure
Speaker 1: and endorsements. I had already been making money. Did you
Speaker 1: come from a big family? Big family? It's thirteen of you?
Speaker 1: Is that where you get this? Uh? This this proud
Speaker 1: list to fight and we fought. Man, we fall. It's
Speaker 1: funny thing that my sisces with the fighters. They don't
Speaker 1: want to snatch you out the car dragive, crowbar, beat
Speaker 1: you up, stump you out, but I'll fall because I
Speaker 1: that's where the life I lived. And and the fact
Speaker 1: that I end up being a fighter. It's kind of
Speaker 1: funny because if you look at my sisters and you
Speaker 1: know how they were brought up, you thought one of
Speaker 1: them when end up being a fighter. But yeah, we
Speaker 1: definitely fought my control, last slice of pizza, So you
Speaker 1: got what about your sister? A few times, a couple
Speaker 1: of few with my sister calling all the way to
Speaker 1: I was dog. She'd be a bad and when didn't
Speaker 1: stop when you got to that to that championship stage,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I had to stand up for
Speaker 1: myself one time. But she did throw me through the drywall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she she had me in one hand, my brother on
Speaker 1: the hand. She spent us in the circle, threw me
Speaker 1: through the wall. So I was in the basement. I
Speaker 1: ended up in a laundry room, and I just remember
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get my ask with Ma Mama. I
Speaker 1: got beat up in embarrassed. We try to put the
Speaker 1: little remember the the playhouse. I'm trying the playhouse over
Speaker 1: the whole. My mom was like get upstairs. I'm like
Speaker 1: now I got to get an ass with kids are crazy, man,
Speaker 1: the biggest hole straight through the drywall. I don't know
Speaker 1: how I perfectly he went through Between the M two
Speaker 1: about four, I was in. I was in the lawn
Speaker 1: your room, just sitting there like, yeah, my sister beat
Speaker 1: me a mini times many embarrassing, not just a regular
Speaker 1: like she beat me with a fishtick box on time
Speaker 1: in front of my dogs. And that was like, you
Speaker 1: can't never come back from it. Are you from Ferguson? Uh? St? Louis?
Speaker 1: I from Ferguson, But until until the riots happened in Ferguson,
Speaker 1: most people just called it St. Louis because it's too
Speaker 1: it's kind of like East part of like East part
Speaker 1: of Houston. You wouldn't like the sounding from Houston. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're from St. Louis, then we get we're a narror.
Speaker 1: Now we usually ask you what high school you want to?
Speaker 1: That's the same Louis thing. You say, well s you
Speaker 1: want to? We're judging you off the top. Do you
Speaker 1: think you ever m Are you in the training? Now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You've been a fight. I can't say just yeah. But
Speaker 1: so as I signed a dit in line, I let
Speaker 1: you know Paul Man, Jake Paul, Dude, I don't know
Speaker 1: why that kid got me so pumped up. The show
Speaker 1: can fight, he can fight. He he's like this. He's
Speaker 1: a kid that's like um. Everybody wanted him get his ask,
Speaker 1: but they want to see him tak a lesson. He's
Speaker 1: the bully that's laughing through the ass with him. You
Speaker 1: never you never teach him a lesson. Remember he took
Speaker 1: Floyd had they beat him up. He laughed the whole time,
Speaker 1: so he really didn't He didn't really learn the lesson.
Speaker 1: He laughed through it and then he got a tattoo.
Speaker 1: Got your hat? Is Jake par a likable person to you? Um?
Speaker 1: To me? I never, I just know. I know it
Speaker 1: was behind the curtain, So I never took a personal
Speaker 1: and I know what he's trying to do. I know
Speaker 1: what he's trying to build his brand. Um, he respects
Speaker 1: me a lot like Jake. Paul and his brother was
Speaker 1: fans of me for a long time. Many many pictures
Speaker 1: of like when they was babies. Want just a fan
Speaker 1: of me is fighting his dad, his family. They've all
Speaker 1: been fans of me for a very long time. But
Speaker 1: to fight me proace just gave him the motivation that
Speaker 1: if I thought somebody I looked up to or I
Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, emulate because they came from a
Speaker 1: wrestling background. Um. I never really had a problem with him,
Speaker 1: but I knew that if I let his antics and
Speaker 1: I let the bullshit get to me, I knew that
Speaker 1: it would mess me up. The other people didn't take
Speaker 1: them serious. I trained hard for him. I took him
Speaker 1: way serious. I spent a lot of time, a lot
Speaker 1: of sparring sessions where I was not winning against people
Speaker 1: that are better, a lot of running. You know, Floyd,
Speaker 1: those guys they don't play about this running. He came
Speaker 1: up to me said, hmm, you don't like to run,
Speaker 1: do you, Floyd? And I'm like, what do you say?
Speaker 1: I said, no, not for real. He said, That's why
Speaker 1: I can fight so long, and that's why I've been
Speaker 1: fighting for so many years. Very difficult, six seven days
Speaker 1: a week running. So if I can go back, I
Speaker 1: would incorporate that back into the wrestling, back when I
Speaker 1: first started fighting, because we have to do so many
Speaker 1: different we gotta do m M A training together, right.
Speaker 1: That's usually once you got everything put in, but then
Speaker 1: you gotta do wrestling. Ju gets to strength and conditioning.
Speaker 1: Then if you want to do some regular running, right
Speaker 1: then if you want to massage, therapy, chiropractor, yoga, all
Speaker 1: this stuff, the extra then kickboxing, wing tie. You gotta
Speaker 1: find time for all that, and that balances you don't
Speaker 1: understand exactly the divine balance. So for me, I knew
Speaker 1: I was a high enough level wrestler that people will
Speaker 1: have a hard time taking me down. If I needed
Speaker 1: to get one, I'm probably gonna get one. So I
Speaker 1: focus mostly on striking of my training, on striking, striking,
Speaker 1: striking striking. If I can outstrike the striker, if I
Speaker 1: can dictate what a fight go, I'm gonna win most
Speaker 1: of the fight. Yeah. I like I like Jake Paul too, man.
Speaker 1: I like him. I like him as I like him
Speaker 1: as a person. I think he's a very smart business
Speaker 1: man too. He's smartest. He's dumb and ship, but he's smartest. Hill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's done. I don't think he's done. I
Speaker 1: think he does dumb ship, but he does it. It's
Speaker 1: part of the act, you know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: part of what it's part of the act to get
Speaker 1: what he wants you know, when I say he's dumb,
Speaker 1: I mean like he's that person that don't care. Right,
Speaker 1: he'll get hit and you think it's funny. And he
Speaker 1: got he got to. Some guys just have dumpy power.
Speaker 1: We call it, like you can just and I have that,
Speaker 1: so I understand how dangerous it is. You don't matter
Speaker 1: where you had in a fight. If you can get
Speaker 1: there from right here, from right there, I can knock
Speaker 1: you out and you can boom and you get on
Speaker 1: the right spot, you down. He has that, and he
Speaker 1: knows that, and all he's really done. He's learned how
Speaker 1: to put himself in position to throw this punch. And
Speaker 1: it was my number one punch and the number one
Speaker 1: thing somebody could have done to get hit by it
Speaker 1: is react and drop the hands. And he got me
Speaker 1: with my own ship because I would always faint. I
Speaker 1: was always love with changing. I would always make you
Speaker 1: think I'm going to something different, and when you bite
Speaker 1: on it, it's over. It's too late by then. So
Speaker 1: with that punch and just his ability to kind of
Speaker 1: not give a fuck, right, and he's training hard. He's
Speaker 1: letting y'all think he's not, but he's training hard. You
Speaker 1: don't have no kids, You don't have nothing that's stopping him.
Speaker 1: You don't have any restrictions on wealth. He can bring
Speaker 1: in the best trainers, the best nutrition, right, and this
Speaker 1: whole thing is now formed around that, so he can
Speaker 1: get better fashion than somebody. They don't have enough money
Speaker 1: for the top trainers, right, they got three or four kids.
Speaker 1: They got a four time job. They gotta keep up
Speaker 1: at the same time, right, or they're of age where
Speaker 1: their bodies beat up, and now they don't. They can't
Speaker 1: do massage, therapy, chiropractic work, yoga. So he that has
Speaker 1: nothing stopping him. Plus everything is a bucket list. Everything
Speaker 1: is a prank, right or a bet. And then he's
Speaker 1: wired a little weird. That's just kind of a recipe
Speaker 1: that we haven't seen before. Would you fight him again
Speaker 1: for sure? What kind of bridge you're gonna need? I mean,
Speaker 1: he knows what to pay me, you know. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: we we we did all right, And I made no
Speaker 1: money to nobody else. Nobody else made him money like
Speaker 1: I did. No other fighter, not Anderson Silver, not we
Speaker 1: made money on that fight. And the thing about it
Speaker 1: is nobody had to build up in the prescott. I
Speaker 1: called him out and I called him out. I really
Speaker 1: should have been calling out the people that issued him
Speaker 1: the culture. Right, you can't vote without it being in
Speaker 1: being given right a bark and flower as many hours
Speaker 1: and minutes as they want to. If it's nothing dead
Speaker 1: on the ground, they're not gonna come down and get it.
Speaker 1: So when you look at the rap culture and you
Speaker 1: look at the people that are looking to get clicks
Speaker 1: and they want this new niche of YouTuber, right, they're
Speaker 1: all in the studio where they all Kiki Ki went right,
Speaker 1: But they're not they're giving him the culture. So I
Speaker 1: called him out. I said, while you got on the
Speaker 1: five necklaces, you ain't nipsey hustle. Who in your neighborhood
Speaker 1: dressed like that? You're like ud Niver I signed from Ferguson,
Speaker 1: the number one murderous city in the country. Now where
Speaker 1: are you from? Who's just like that? Who talked like that? Nobody?
Speaker 1: I said, you're the rap you're listening to? Is why
Speaker 1: what I live where people around me? My family currently
Speaker 1: still right, So you're you look stupid, you goofy and
Speaker 1: your dogs won't even tell you. And everybody got quiet.
Speaker 1: But I was the first one that that was came
Speaker 1: at him in a real, real way. So now when
Speaker 1: you look at the build up, no build up is
Speaker 1: gonna match that. What we really should do is fight
Speaker 1: at M M A because a lot of people want
Speaker 1: to see what happens if we fight, and that's not
Speaker 1: going I doubt if Jake would do that. That definitely
Speaker 1: would not be to his advantage. And Jake, like I said,
Speaker 1: Jake is a pretty smart Jake is pretty smart about
Speaker 1: giving himself a winning chance, and that that's not that
Speaker 1: would not be wise. Let's go back to Ferguson man
Speaker 1: um So Michael Brown shooting where he was murdered by
Speaker 1: officer uncivilized m Daryl Darren Wilson. Now, where where were
Speaker 1: you during that time? On the plane coming from Vegas?
Speaker 1: I took my son August night. It was his birthday.
Speaker 1: So I was flying on the plane. I was landing
Speaker 1: it in St. Louis and then I was gonna take
Speaker 1: a nap, and my phone crazy and like you okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you don't like what's going on. And they showed me
Speaker 1: what happened. They showed the riot stuff. Um but but
Speaker 1: I found out about it. But I used to date
Speaker 1: that's like my street in my neighborhood. So I should
Speaker 1: date a girl in the building where he dropped that
Speaker 1: right in front um that quick trip. I can walk
Speaker 1: through from my house. I've been there many million times
Speaker 1: where they rited at. So this is what Florence and
Speaker 1: that's where the riots happened at in my street of Chamber,
Speaker 1: So I'm touching it. So my barbershop, they didn't touch
Speaker 1: my barbershop. People outside with machine guns and not this one.
Speaker 1: They burned the building into the side of it. They
Speaker 1: burned the build on the other side. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of people outside of Ferguson that did that. So it
Speaker 1: was a big, big uproar, and I had that. I
Speaker 1: was in a training camp during that time. And the
Speaker 1: funny part is I was filming straight out of Compton,
Speaker 1: and we were filming the riot scenes and straight out
Speaker 1: of Compton while the real riots was going on in
Speaker 1: my city. Yeah, now you were. I've spoken about the ride,
Speaker 1: the riots in the in the rest, the looting. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: how much flag did you get from black people? None
Speaker 1: about that, none, Because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I still stood for what was right. I still still
Speaker 1: for I grew up in Ferguson. We if somebody pulled
Speaker 1: behind you, who got you? All Ferguson got you. It
Speaker 1: was a known thing. It was always that way. Always
Speaker 1: pulled over, my dogs, pulled over, beat up, throwing the
Speaker 1: pantiwagons for no reason, all the time, racial profile, and
Speaker 1: all the time, all your lights out, let me check
Speaker 1: your car all the time. So we didn't recognize that
Speaker 1: that was something that was not normal. We thought every
Speaker 1: city had one of the fergus and people there. So
Speaker 1: I didn't get no slacker. Yeah, I didn't get no
Speaker 1: slack because what I was saying was like, if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna turn some ship up, I ain't gonna turn my
Speaker 1: own neighborhood, my own street. And it was not the
Speaker 1: people in Ferguson. So the people that live in our city,
Speaker 1: they're mad. People came from out of state to loot,
Speaker 1: out of the city to loot, to vandalize. They didn't
Speaker 1: have to live there. They have to watch that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I just seen business owners
Speaker 1: that I know, beauty supply stores, liquor stories that I've
Speaker 1: known for so many years since I was a kid,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I've been working my whole life.
Speaker 1: I was sweeping there in the barbershop. So when people
Speaker 1: outside looking like, all my ship going, what do I
Speaker 1: go from here? Right? They have nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: So I was I was kind of tired about that,
Speaker 1: but I was more so tight that I put together
Speaker 1: a really big play for the UFC to get involved
Speaker 1: with it. I said, I'm from this city. The city
Speaker 1: mean a lot to me, right, And I said, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of people like myself. I got a buddy
Speaker 1: that's a trumpet player that's played in the Grammys at
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, Beyonce, Mary J. Blige, jay Z. He's
Speaker 1: everywhere a composer, right. I got a person that's a
Speaker 1: um engineering bills missiles for for Boeing. Right. But they
Speaker 1: all came from the city. Why don't we show case
Speaker 1: the good that comes from the city. Why don't we
Speaker 1: bring about a change. Why don't we go and try
Speaker 1: to raise some funds to put this baby back together
Speaker 1: and increase awareness on the police brutality and how do
Speaker 1: we deal how do we all this problem? They didn't
Speaker 1: want nothing to do with it. Man, did you did
Speaker 1: you talk to what's his name, the big guy start?
Speaker 1: He told me, He told me I had a fight coming.
Speaker 1: I was fighting at my college China, and if you
Speaker 1: go back and look in my fighting my college China,
Speaker 1: you'll see I'm warning the St. Louis Had, which is
Speaker 1: technicus supposed to get fined. We weren't supposed to wear
Speaker 1: any other license stuff. But I snuck it through and
Speaker 1: I got I had the St. Louis Had on that
Speaker 1: because I'm like my CD hurting right now and I
Speaker 1: want to I want to go out and represent for
Speaker 1: them once again. A lat two men, two week fight.
Speaker 1: I beat this dude skill skull in sixty seconds and
Speaker 1: I made a strong statement and I dedicated that fight
Speaker 1: to my city. So I talked to him about it.
Speaker 1: He didn't want nothing to do it. He wanted me
Speaker 1: to stay away from the city, can make it to
Speaker 1: the fight. He wanted me to stay away from the
Speaker 1: city so I can make it to the fight. That
Speaker 1: was it. But but that, but that went on, The
Speaker 1: ryots went on for an entire year. At any point
Speaker 1: he could have stepped in and said, okay, we want
Speaker 1: to do something to think. I think politically he's pretty
Speaker 1: clear on where he stands. Um on that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? People that were um for the not
Speaker 1: for the riots. Like I don't want to say black
Speaker 1: lives matter, because everybody like got an issue with what
Speaker 1: they were really doing with the money and the entity.
Speaker 1: I was saying that black lives matter the phrase because
Speaker 1: they do, right we we don't. We didn't see that
Speaker 1: from any other um nationality where they were just shot
Speaker 1: up and just no patience and we didn't see that right,
Speaker 1: but it was constantly shown what the people that it was.
Speaker 1: It was easy to just pole right. So that's what
Speaker 1: I was saying. For he, I don't I don't. I
Speaker 1: can't really speak for him. I don't know what he did,
Speaker 1: but I did definitely put that on the table. I
Speaker 1: thought it had been a huge opportunity fighting in a
Speaker 1: different country because when I went there, it was monks
Speaker 1: coming from India. Um, Jake Cole was there on my dog,
Speaker 1: Nate Parker came in. Everybody was there to show they
Speaker 1: loved support in St. Louis and Ferguson. They came down there. Jaco,
Speaker 1: he just pulled up the boxes like dog too. So
Speaker 1: what the cop did, man was just that was terrible.
Speaker 1: The trip part about it is the d o J investigated, Uh,
Speaker 1: the whole entire Ferguson Police department and found uh massive corruption,
Speaker 1: uh and descriminate. That's but from what I understand, not
Speaker 1: a lot has changed. Uh Man, my dogs have been
Speaker 1: I remember vividly my homie. They took him behind a
Speaker 1: convenience store, put phone boots in his shirt and beat him.
Speaker 1: Because you want bruised as much. They beat the dog
Speaker 1: shout out of him with billy clubs. There's not there's
Speaker 1: not nothing new. It's been our friend of Liz in
Speaker 1: Houston right now. I was golfing with him yesterday. You
Speaker 1: got out the car and slapping blow God and slapped
Speaker 1: the kid. Yeah, ship, I watched What do you Do
Speaker 1: Help your dog out? Isn't Ferguson with black. I don't
Speaker 1: know the exact dynamics, but there's a lot of really
Speaker 1: nice parts of when you think of Ferguson. Ferguson, it's
Speaker 1: not really like St. Louis. North side. St. Louis is
Speaker 1: the trenches. That's the city city. Ferguson technically is in
Speaker 1: the suburbs. But they just like any if somebody see
Speaker 1: gang culture in California, right, but they don't live there.
Speaker 1: Most people in St. Louis don't move. It's like a
Speaker 1: nest of city. Right. So people are protecting these same
Speaker 1: blocks for four damn years. You got ogs and sixty
Speaker 1: years old still banging on the same corner that they
Speaker 1: was representing fourteen. Right. So now when you got that mindset,
Speaker 1: they look at California and they want to turn up
Speaker 1: to match that level of violence or match that level.
Speaker 1: So they get they want to feel like they got
Speaker 1: that credit, right, but they go above and beyond. And
Speaker 1: that's why St. Louis was a murder capital for so
Speaker 1: many years in a row, right before the pandemic. So
Speaker 1: now when you think about that, that that category got
Speaker 1: people that are turning up, you've got law enforcements that
Speaker 1: are they ain't getting no respect. When I see the
Speaker 1: police behind me or anyone, I don't look forward, don't move,
Speaker 1: don't breathe. That's what we do, right, Like they don't move,
Speaker 1: don't breathe, put on job, slow everything right, and it
Speaker 1: should be a situation where they're protecting and serving. Now
Speaker 1: some police officers that get a bad rap, and maybe
Speaker 1: Mike Brown got a bad rap from the from the kids.
Speaker 1: I was like, now I ain't doing nothing, you know,
Speaker 1: I dressed the same way, and this dude was probably
Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't Darren whatever to do. They didn't.
Speaker 1: This person probably was tired of getting um told get
Speaker 1: the funk out of my face, no respect right. Probably
Speaker 1: probably was not the popular dude growing up, probably had
Speaker 1: all type of stuff, and he used his authority to
Speaker 1: get off. That's all that happened. He got off on
Speaker 1: the kid. He needed to go to sign walk. There's
Speaker 1: nothing else he needed to do. Ultimately, I believe that
Speaker 1: the reason why he shot him because he was black.
Speaker 1: Because all of that those things can be true. That
Speaker 1: he was being told to get the funk out of
Speaker 1: my face. And I'm sure some white people have told
Speaker 1: him to get the funk out of my face. You
Speaker 1: Peo wanted to get off, said that he reached in
Speaker 1: the call for his fire arm. That right there should
Speaker 1: have been. You know, that's still be in the end
Speaker 1: of that story because when we see the laws pull
Speaker 1: up and we we're not gonna run, but we're not
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, going all in their car and
Speaker 1: trying to talk to them and you know, leaning in
Speaker 1: their ship. Man, I ain't gonna I'm not coming up
Speaker 1: to that car. I wouldn't even imagine that. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even imagine he lies his ass off and and and
Speaker 1: the judicial system is so fucked up. Until they accepted
Speaker 1: that line, they prepared the whole city for two days.
Speaker 1: A lot of times they killed. They don't even interview them.
Speaker 1: They don't get no statements to anything. They get the
Speaker 1: hang out and kick it and they go. They get
Speaker 1: to be anonymous until you get the story. Right. Did
Speaker 1: you see the autopsy? Yeah? Man, he had shots in
Speaker 1: the back of his form, bro, And didn't he have
Speaker 1: a shots in the back of arm and nothing shot
Speaker 1: it from the back? Man? Yeah. They they prepared the
Speaker 1: city for two weeks because they knew when the verdict
Speaker 1: came out. They knew everybody's gonna turn up. So I
Speaker 1: got pictures on my phone right now, um humleys everywhere,
Speaker 1: park everywhere, prepared, martial law, um, national card, everything you
Speaker 1: can think of already. So we already knew what the
Speaker 1: verdict was. If it wasn't, then why would they need that.
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna go crazy because justice was served. So they
Speaker 1: was prepping, um, like some people I know that works
Speaker 1: in like the government offices. They kind of already kind
Speaker 1: of like guys that need to be prepared. This is
Speaker 1: about to go down, and it went down? How much
Speaker 1: have changed? Sense? Um? You know, to be honest, no
Speaker 1: matter where I'm at, I try to just I saw
Speaker 1: the South the way. Did that black attorney getting the
Speaker 1: black DA getting I don't think so it was a
Speaker 1: black d A at one time, wouldn't it. I don't.
Speaker 1: I would have to check on that. I think it
Speaker 1: was a black d A that that that that, Um,
Speaker 1: we gotta looking at that, Willie. I think the d
Speaker 1: A was well was he should still be in office? Well,
Speaker 1: Ferguson is is big on police policing for profits, just
Speaker 1: like all of the other cities around America is. And
Speaker 1: that's the fundamental problem with police. Not a lot of
Speaker 1: owners of homes. And they got quotas and taxes. They're
Speaker 1: trying to like they're trying to get it through the tickets,
Speaker 1: they're trying to get it through the South. He could
Speaker 1: get a get a ticket. Yeah you no, he had
Speaker 1: on his mind to kill h Yeah, he wanted to
Speaker 1: kill him. It was hunting the season four hand to
Speaker 1: be Yeah, that's cold bloody man. And and and that's
Speaker 1: a Commonwealth state, right, So I don't. I don't expect
Speaker 1: for black people to get up fair um shaking that
Speaker 1: justice system at all. When you come to those states
Speaker 1: like that, it's tough. It's real that one was one
Speaker 1: and everybody's always a clear case of guilty. Shout him
Speaker 1: in the from in the back, bro, they had man
Speaker 1: have to shoot him at all? I mean he could have.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know the protocol, but I don't
Speaker 1: know what some damn sweet fake to say that a
Speaker 1: day before some ship, right, or or a few hours before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they man, come on, uh man, what do we do
Speaker 1: to fix that? Fix this um racial uh disparity, this
Speaker 1: this uncomfortable conversations being treated. I don't give a funk
Speaker 1: about the conversation. I love to have the conversation all
Speaker 1: the time. But what do we do to to to
Speaker 1: to make them stop working with us like this? Don'tly.
Speaker 1: The way that I feel the change you is to
Speaker 1: have those uncomfortable conversations and have law enforcement chiefs and
Speaker 1: have people of the community come together and work out
Speaker 1: is really authority that's been hoarded over right, That's all
Speaker 1: it is. But ain't that what we always been trying
Speaker 1: to do. Come to an agreement and talk and all
Speaker 1: that ship. I really haven't seen much much of that.
Speaker 1: We all talked out man, this this conversation has happened
Speaker 1: every every single day. Uh. I think that in order
Speaker 1: to to get some justice, to get some some real
Speaker 1: to be treated like human beings, I think number one,
Speaker 1: because we live in a capitalistic society. Number one, we
Speaker 1: should uh practice group economics. That's number one, because we
Speaker 1: we got to spend our money with each other, and
Speaker 1: we have to we have to pool our resources. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have to do exactly. The Jewish community already showed
Speaker 1: us how to do it. They the blueprint is right there.
Speaker 1: So that's one. And and because you know when once
Speaker 1: you get one should get the money, you get the power.
Speaker 1: You get to get the power, you got the influence,
Speaker 1: and and and you influence the decisions and government. You know,
Speaker 1: you influence these municipalities. You know, these cops all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they start acting right. The reason why they
Speaker 1: don't mess with certain people because they know what's gonna
Speaker 1: come with that. You see, it's not that they it's
Speaker 1: not that they have not been trained properly. It's that
Speaker 1: that they pick and choose when they want to use
Speaker 1: that training properly. That's that's the point. So I think
Speaker 1: the training cameras and how do you things that they
Speaker 1: really should train martial arts. If you got to sustain
Speaker 1: or you gotta initialize somebody without using your force, you
Speaker 1: should be able to do that. It used to be
Speaker 1: like that. It used to They used to would put
Speaker 1: in a little work. They would chase if you know,
Speaker 1: you start running the run, you run, you know it
Speaker 1: shoot you in the back. You know it used to
Speaker 1: be when even they did shoot you in the back,
Speaker 1: that was automatically. Uh you know you're fired. You know
Speaker 1: that's an automatic lawsuit. Now you shot him in the back. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: I feel for my life. Yeah, you know. So the
Speaker 1: other point that I was gonna make this is a tooth.
Speaker 1: I think this is a twofold remedy. The other one,
Speaker 1: the other side is uh something that I can't even mention.
Speaker 1: And I think that we've done everything else, and you
Speaker 1: got to read between the lines on the second one,
Speaker 1: I already know you. Well, if you don't do that,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't I can't do man. Get us
Speaker 1: canceled I think I get us canceled up in this.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your acting career. Man, you're doing good,
Speaker 1: man good. You're good at that. Man, You're really good
Speaker 1: at that. Man. You know, like, uh, what what's coming
Speaker 1: up next? For? You know? I just I just um,
Speaker 1: I just did I like, hey, switch that sub. I
Speaker 1: support that. But I know what you're saying. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know what he's saying. But tell everybody the movies
Speaker 1: that you've you've been in the roads that you played.
Speaker 1: I played t Bone and straight up straight out of
Speaker 1: content for the Lynch Mob. I did Sons of Anarchy,
Speaker 1: Asians of Shield, Um Olympics is Falling, Kickboxer, I did UMST. Recently,
Speaker 1: I did Cobra Co. I played a Sense That's the
Speaker 1: number one show on Netflix. I did uh one of
Speaker 1: my favorite ones. I did cut Through CD that the
Speaker 1: resid did so It's me my homie, um to Meet
Speaker 1: your Ship. We played Tupac in the documentary Terrence Howard
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes Um. That movie was number one on Netflix
Speaker 1: as well. But that was like a hurricane Katrainer store work,
Speaker 1: and that was hard. That was hard. But I've been
Speaker 1: a lot of films. But but the but the but
Speaker 1: the money isn't fighting And I feel like guy, guy
Speaker 1: showed me the way I was gonna walk away, and uh,
Speaker 1: I ain't hit that yet. So I'm building up to
Speaker 1: to finish the last chapter, do it the way I
Speaker 1: was supposed to do, and then everything else goes off
Speaker 1: of that. People put you in the movies. If it's
Speaker 1: this guy versus you, they're gonna use you. If it's
Speaker 1: pretty even you, you're gonna you're gonna get a Will
Speaker 1: Smith role here pretty soon. No, but I just want
Speaker 1: you to be prepared when he walked up there and
Speaker 1: slap the ship out of you. I'm a faidback. I'm
Speaker 1: letting hit the air. I'm gonna let Hi hit there.
Speaker 1: I support him slapping um Chris Rock. I know you do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why because he's tired of people? Man, Everybody got something
Speaker 1: to say people too. He all right, I don't. I
Speaker 1: can't speak on what's going on this household. But it
Speaker 1: seemed like, you know, everybody Internet got something to say
Speaker 1: about him, got something to say about the situation ship
Speaker 1: where all these different things they've been kind of coming
Speaker 1: at him. So I think he was just fed up. Man,
Speaker 1: that's the man's house. No, I don't, I don't have no,
Speaker 1: I don't have no problem with it? What's going on
Speaker 1: in his house? But I'm saying the internet, like I
Speaker 1: feel like, to be honest, I feel like he actually
Speaker 1: hasn't figured out do what you wanna do because no
Speaker 1: matter what people saying, you don't have to feed them,
Speaker 1: you have to live with them. No matter what religion
Speaker 1: we worshiped, we're violating it anyway, are we not? So
Speaker 1: we're living okay? Well, most people are ninety people religion?
Speaker 1: What religion? Not here? I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm stomped.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to it. Just like, but just think
Speaker 1: about that when you think about that pressure, right you
Speaker 1: are we always like I had to reuse Kanye West,
Speaker 1: but he said a phrase that he said, the worst
Speaker 1: thing that ideal with in school is what what's the
Speaker 1: worst thing about school for you? We're using school was
Speaker 1: the worst thing about it? Should for me? Going when
Speaker 1: you when you went there? The test? Right? The worst
Speaker 1: thing for most people the worst thing of the anxiety
Speaker 1: you get is when you get that test. That's where
Speaker 1: you get the grade at right, So why are we
Speaker 1: bringing that into our lives where we're letting people test us,
Speaker 1: where we're letting people are you should be dating this
Speaker 1: girl because you make this amount of money, or you
Speaker 1: should be doing that. Keeping up with the Jones is
Speaker 1: pretty much right, he said. I don't. I don't have
Speaker 1: to be what you want me to be. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't go out there and try to pass your test.
Speaker 1: I just am. This is what I do. I just
Speaker 1: said it. And I feel like, if you're already doing
Speaker 1: in any way, just be who you are, if the
Speaker 1: person you with and I got this understanding, and that's
Speaker 1: the way I live in. Why does it matter what
Speaker 1: other people think? Like society is this today is okay,
Speaker 1: tomorrow's cancel, right or wrong? Right? It's the worst stock
Speaker 1: you can invest into, So why would I keep investing
Speaker 1: into the stock society tells us date off. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: date this girl because she gotta fat ask. She's cute,
Speaker 1: that dada. I don't know what kind of connection I
Speaker 1: got with her. I don't know none of that. All
Speaker 1: I know is my eyes want and I want to
Speaker 1: date her, right, the same people that set you up
Speaker 1: to date that way. I worked for TMZ. I have
Speaker 1: my own show, you know what I mean, emails I got,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? My homies. I had to like,
Speaker 1: we didn't get that email for my dog that's in
Speaker 1: this sport or that sport, or we need to switch
Speaker 1: this up a little bit. Right. So now, when you
Speaker 1: think about it, the same people that sent you up
Speaker 1: to date that way are the people that's waiting on
Speaker 1: you to fail the most the most. Watch Kardashian or divorce.
Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about the goody two shoe stuff. Everybody want
Speaker 1: to talk about this person. Yes, so that's the same setup.
Speaker 1: So why are we investing that. Do what you feel
Speaker 1: comfortable with, do what you wanna do, live your life,
Speaker 1: make the people around you happy, and say true to
Speaker 1: what you are. And that's what I That's what I
Speaker 1: feel like we all should do. So I feel like
Speaker 1: Will it's kind of doing that, but I feel like
Speaker 1: he's a little scared to kind of just be this
Speaker 1: is what I am. Right, So now you gotta take
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little little heckling from here
Speaker 1: and there. I think you have time to slap the
Speaker 1: ship out of Chris Rock. Bro, Chris Rock, are they cool?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, were they cool with each other?
Speaker 1: With dropping at the bars? I mean, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: currently Bro. You don't think I mean, I wouldn't slapped
Speaker 1: them up there on stage like that. I don't know
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't. I wouldn't have went up on that. Well,
Speaker 1: you don't know. I do know what that's like trying
Speaker 1: to tell Will Smith how to feel You don't know that.
Speaker 1: That's like somebody trying to tell you how to feel. Well,
Speaker 1: I know I'm smarting than that. Its facial special showed
Speaker 1: me that it was a little bit more behind. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, bro, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: would have done it or not. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: would hope I wouldn't have done it. I would have
Speaker 1: hope I had restraint and went to the bad because
Speaker 1: because I know, because I know the because or something
Speaker 1: like that. I would hope that I would have had
Speaker 1: that restraint. But I'm not sure if I would have
Speaker 1: had it, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I think
Speaker 1: I think we should slap all disrespect. Maybe not in
Speaker 1: that setting, again, I think we should slap out all
Speaker 1: disrespect in general. I think we should. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: just think about who we do we get into it.
Speaker 1: Somebody step on your shoes, but you're gonna let somebody
Speaker 1: disrespect your woman you're not gonna say nothing. People didn't
Speaker 1: get shot over that. That's true. Okay, I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stay get back, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't let either slide.
Speaker 1: You know what. Let me say when I was you're
Speaker 1: not gonna disrespect my woman. But as far as like
Speaker 1: stepping on my shoe when I was younger, I would
Speaker 1: take supreme sense to something like that. Somebody stepped on
Speaker 1: my shoe and just excuse me. See things like man,
Speaker 1: you say excuse me, you know, like say excuse me
Speaker 1: because you know that's what that's what happened with me.
Speaker 1: And be a build and say excuse me. You know
Speaker 1: when he bumped the first time, my man him, he
Speaker 1: didn't say excuse me, bumped me and then say excuse me,
Speaker 1: and that's what set me off. Like man just said
Speaker 1: excuse me. Just be a gentleman of body, you know,
Speaker 1: because I bumped the people. Anytime you're in a crowded space, especially,
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna bump into people whatever, you might
Speaker 1: step on somebody incidentally, you know what I'm saying. Accidentally
Speaker 1: and you just say, hey, man, my fault, my bad.
Speaker 1: They ain't got they don't make you look weak. In fact,
Speaker 1: I feel like it makes you look stronger. You know,
Speaker 1: a man, I bad and keep it moving to be
Speaker 1: a gentleman abody. But somebody just do it and didn't
Speaker 1: act like you know, like you're nothing, like you wasn't
Speaker 1: even there. Don't don't apologize, especially when you're willing to
Speaker 1: do it yourself. That that get under my skin. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm having an asked with tech man. Yeah, Asma, do
Speaker 1: your thing. He didn't do y'all funny like that. His
Speaker 1: birthday is a few days away. Man, his birthday is
Speaker 1: eight days after mine. That's my guy. He's a scarpio.
Speaker 1: How many decades I've been going at this? Three decades?
Speaker 1: Three decades? I tell him, Man, I'm gonna die, he said.
Speaker 1: I didn't say kick. I do not curse. I'm a Christian.
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm done. Man, Do you do you? Do
Speaker 1: you have any more um uh things that you want
Speaker 1: to address? Because I'm sick of will. You're sick of
Speaker 1: will name will? Ain't that I can do about that? Man,
Speaker 1: I can't breathe. You know, we were talking about He's glad.
Speaker 1: I got as with Tech. I didn't sound mad. I said, Asthma,
Speaker 1: do your thing, well that sounds happy to me. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, like asthma, do you thing? Man?
Speaker 1: You know they ain't hating nothing like that. That sounds like,
Speaker 1: hey man, what's next show? You know? Man? For me,
Speaker 1: I got I got a lot of stuff coming up.
Speaker 1: I got a TV show coming up, My god, TV show.
Speaker 1: I'm on TV show IM working on right now. What
Speaker 1: with Uh it's a comedy. It is a comedy comedy.
Speaker 1: I got you way funny and him got a comedy show.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing that next fighting obviously, and then I
Speaker 1: got some other business stuff I'm doing as well. But
Speaker 1: if I would share some light on anything, especially being
Speaker 1: in here and sat not St. Louis Houston. Um, we
Speaker 1: can't go off the show without talking about what happened
Speaker 1: the other day. I don't know when the show gonna aaron,
Speaker 1: when it's gonna come out, but we lost somebody in
Speaker 1: the in the community um of music, and just yet
Speaker 1: again that sad thing. And I just want to send
Speaker 1: condoless to his family, to take off family, to anybody
Speaker 1: he left behind. I don't know if he has kids,
Speaker 1: but I just know in general, UM, we gotta find
Speaker 1: a way to stop this because culture is music and
Speaker 1: these artists can't go around and do their job. But
Speaker 1: I'll feeling, man, Yeah, that Shu really really cut man,
Speaker 1: the most dangerous career and really cut man. Uh, he
Speaker 1: was dope, can I be read? He was dope. I
Speaker 1: mean my son was talking about that. He was slept
Speaker 1: on for a long time, for a long as time.
Speaker 1: But man, the boy was and he wasn't even not
Speaker 1: in no ship though, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: no ship man, God damn. Yeah. But we got all
Speaker 1: these eye openers over and over again. It's like what
Speaker 1: do we do? Like you know what I mean, these
Speaker 1: artists they're going out here and they're entertaining and they're
Speaker 1: bringing so much life to music. Everybody, white, black, green,
Speaker 1: purple orange. They selling all these shows. But how do
Speaker 1: we protect them? We we we we have to reinstall
Speaker 1: instructions to the game. Oh Jeeves, gotta let these young
Speaker 1: kids know that. I have to let me installed the instructions. Man,
Speaker 1: you know right now, the instructions was when we went
Speaker 1: to go do anything in the city, we did what
Speaker 1: we had to do, and we got the fun back
Speaker 1: to our rooms. We got back on base. If we
Speaker 1: we went to the club, we all went to the
Speaker 1: club together and we knew, we knew coming in there,
Speaker 1: we knew leaving here that that was their town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and whatever the fun the head going on in they town,
Speaker 1: that's what went on in they town. We're stayed in
Speaker 1: our lane. We're stayed in our lane. Bro see jack
Speaker 1: boys right now glorified and then the pandemic boys. Man,
Speaker 1: But but it's making the it's making it. It's like this,
Speaker 1: You've got people that are glorifying that, especially when the pandemic.
Speaker 1: It's nothing to be mass. Your identity is covered anyway
Speaker 1: because everybody got a mask on, right, So you got that,
Speaker 1: and then you got the culture. Now that's really flashy.
Speaker 1: So much jury, so much money and face, so much this,
Speaker 1: so much that so now people are glorifying in their
Speaker 1: music robbing people, right, So the violence is already gonna
Speaker 1: jump to the roof. And you got people if I
Speaker 1: know he in here and he got this on me,
Speaker 1: or now we get into an altercation, it becomes pride.
Speaker 1: Pride's been taking us off for so many years, but
Speaker 1: it's misplaced. Pride seems to be proud about the wrong ship,
Speaker 1: you know, like that you should be proud about being
Speaker 1: able to take care of your family, you know, being
Speaker 1: there for your children, to see your kids raised by
Speaker 1: you and not another man. You know, you should be
Speaker 1: proud that that. You know, you you were able to
Speaker 1: buy your parents a house after they've taken care of
Speaker 1: you for your whole life, you know, to be able
Speaker 1: to retire your grandmother. You know, that's just that's the
Speaker 1: ship you should be proud of. You should be proud
Speaker 1: that you escape the traps that they got out here
Speaker 1: for you. They got these traps everywhere for us. You
Speaker 1: should be proud that you were able to escape and
Speaker 1: you didn't let them send you to the penitentiary. May
Speaker 1: maybe you made a mistake or whatever, and then you know,
Speaker 1: the lawyers got you out of a gym. You said, okay,
Speaker 1: I learned my list nobody. That's the type of ship
Speaker 1: you should be proud of. Be proud that you sent kids,
Speaker 1: you sent your kids to college and they got degrees
Speaker 1: or you know, they're self sufficient, independent adults. Be proud
Speaker 1: the ship like that. We're proud of the wrong type
Speaker 1: of ship. You're proud of ship that you don't own,
Speaker 1: and ship that you don't control. You know, that's the
Speaker 1: ship that we're proud of and the ship makes absolutely
Speaker 1: no sense. And it all stems from a lack of
Speaker 1: self esteem. You got these big dudes out here running
Speaker 1: around at with these guns, and everybody got a gun,
Speaker 1: and they think the gun gives them the power. When
Speaker 1: if the gun gave you that much power, why is
Speaker 1: it that somebody can take the gun away from you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So these guys, no matter how big they all, no
Speaker 1: matter how dangerous they say they are, once they go
Speaker 1: out there and do something dummy, uh, when people come
Speaker 1: and get them and they just go freely. But but
Speaker 1: before the people come, they gorill us. They kill us,
Speaker 1: they carrill us. Nobody can stop them. They uncontrolled, the
Speaker 1: uncontrolled them. The moment them people come in, they acquiesque.
Speaker 1: They fall back, you know, they fall back, and they
Speaker 1: take take whatever those people give them, fifty years, sevnty years,
Speaker 1: eighty years, a hundred and ninety years, whatever, and they
Speaker 1: go do that time whether they like it or not.
Speaker 1: They bow the funk down. But why do you why
Speaker 1: you gotta go through all of that when you see
Speaker 1: people before you going through it already and already losing
Speaker 1: their lives, already putting their mama's on the front row,
Speaker 1: already abandoned, their abandoning their children, already spending all of
Speaker 1: their days and something in a damn cage with grown ass.
Speaker 1: Man's going men going to take showers? Uh, dickor ass?
Speaker 1: You know? Uh standing Dicta asked with men in a shower,
Speaker 1: bro Like, why would you put yourself in that position?
Speaker 1: When you see it's happening to everybody else? Why would
Speaker 1: you go through all of that? It makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 1: Doesn't get our brothers the way to cost before they do?
Speaker 1: You know what they gotta do. You gotta get You
Speaker 1: gotta do what I learned to do. Love my self,
Speaker 1: because when you love yourself, you ain't gonna put yourself
Speaker 1: in certain predicaments. You're gonna change the way you eat.
Speaker 1: When you love yourself, it's hard. You it ain't just
Speaker 1: gonna be the best. You know, it's not gonna just
Speaker 1: be about who you decide you're gonna hang around. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be you're gonna take care of your body and
Speaker 1: your your your your mind and your spirit in every sense.
Speaker 1: And you you just it's certain kind of energy. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna even put yourself around. Once you learn uh
Speaker 1: to love yourself you say, you know what them foods
Speaker 1: over that. They shoot at that club every damn week.
Speaker 1: It's a damn shooting over that. I think I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go over there because they shoot over there and
Speaker 1: the people that go there seem like they don't like living.
Speaker 1: I like living right, you know, dude, this ship feel good.
Speaker 1: This is motherfucker this oxygen. This ship feels good to
Speaker 1: make if you've heard about what happened with us when
Speaker 1: we when he was when we was supposed to say, um,
Speaker 1: play ball with the Astros, we were getting ready to
Speaker 1: do our world serious thing or whatever, and Willie went
Speaker 1: into his speech, but he gave a similar speech like
Speaker 1: that at Many may part. And that's why we didn't
Speaker 1: get a chance to say playball because they cut his
Speaker 1: mic off. Ladies and gentlemenmen's it's been great. It's been
Speaker 1: great conversating with you guys. It's been great having Tiring.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your mom. Look, it's been great having Tiring on
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you for coming on the show. And
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. I appreciate and um yeah I
Speaker 1: got some game too at that ship. Man. I'm just
Speaker 1: here that the antagonize him to bring it out, but
Speaker 1: he's dope with this ship. But thank you for coming out, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. For sure, for sure, we
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