WEBVTT - The Tyron Woodley Episode 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.720 Get you know, boys, it's back and reoded all in 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.440 your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This is for 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.119 the streets, the real the railroading, the distant franchise, the 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.480 truth escape building, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.000 so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.239 South East coat is the g b my keeping your 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.079 head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and wants to be 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.479 drips head by. And then the system is so corrupt 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:28.360 they threw the rock out of their heads and then 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.840 blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on code 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:37.960 and me and dancing for no furdament biscuits. It's Willie 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.919 d y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively we are 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:45.519 the GHET old boys. Readloaded, reloaded with another episode of 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.360 information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:56.160 beautiful world in the studio Towering wood Lee, the chapters 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.600 in the building, the Realist. I appreciate your, appreciate you 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:08.479 appreciate you. Yeah, man, um, tell me what's what it's 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.679 like to be and m m a fighter because you 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.560 know boxing is my background. I've always had a problem 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.160 with people kicking me like I thought kicking with disrespectful shit. 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.960 Ever do you ever feel that way? Was somebody kick you, 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:25.640 does it turn up something in you? I mean when 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.240 I was younger, we fall in the street a lot, 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:33.520 fought in gangs. I falled like just a fight for sure. Yeah. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.720 I grew up in St. Louis and fighting was just 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.160 a way of life. Um So for me, karate was 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.959 a big thing because Karate Kid that came out. So 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.200 we was doing mad KARATEI in the crib. I remember 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.200 my my daughter would not kick me in the face 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.440 so hard, and my you know, you get that headache 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.240 in the back of your eyeball. He mean kicking me 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:55.840 in these I had a headache in the back of 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.800 my eyeball so bad. But I told myself, you bet 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.720 not cry, you bet not cry, You better not cry. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:04.960 I just how old, I mean, probably like ten you 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.120 still crying? You get kicking the nose at thirties in 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:14.519 the nose right now? So so I was. I think 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.000 that's kind of like where I kind of built that 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.359 extra layer of skin that like, even if something hurt, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.600 I just didn't want to show nobody her. So the 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:24.200 kicking part came later, Like I really, most of my fights. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.240 I don't do a lot of kicking. Um. I wanted 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.040 to box my whole life, but my mom would never 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.560 let me box. So that was the only sport that 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.520 I really, really really wanted to do that I never did. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.760 My grandfather was a big boxing promoter in St. Louis 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.560 and Detroit, Cash, just Clay, everybody you can think of. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:44.200 He promoted everybody, so it's kind of my blood. Everybody Spinks, 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:50.560 Corey Spinks, um so we um. I wrestled in college 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.320 and when I graduated college, the Ultimate Fighter Show came 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.040 out and I was like, let me give it a 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.560 try because I couldn't start boxing that at that age 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.400 because I was twenty three years old. Most people started 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.880 boxing and as teenagers, so I said, let me try 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.800 this Emma thing. And I was a coach at first, 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.639 teaching people to wrestlant stop people from taking them down, 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.079 because that's when the wrestler was coming in and and taking 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.560 everybody down and couldn't stop it. So I was kind 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.120 of like the the ob So I was teaching them 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.480 how to stop the wrestlers from taking them down. And 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.560 I was sparring so much and training so much two 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.880 and three days because I was like the number one 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.240 coach in the country. Everybody flew me out to training. Yeah, nobody. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.239 I was a number one coach for for wrestling because 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.040 nobody knew how to handle the wrestler. So I was 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:31.960 in such your shape, I'm like, well, let me just 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:33.800 try this. So I just really got an emvac kind 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.040 of trying it out, and I said shot out. Since 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.600 I'm man, here's go ahead and go cradit with it. 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.720 But you started very young. I mean you you you 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.520 were on the wrestling Did you want a championship on 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.720 the on the collegiate level? You want the championship on 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.720 the high school level, and you won the championship on 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:51.640 the pro level, you know, I mean like you got 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.920 that transpective thing. Yeah, I want a couple of state 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.360 championships in high school. And then I went to University 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.160 of Missouri. I was All American and when they first 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.280 Big two title that they ever had at the cool 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.880 and then UM had over a hundred of something victories, 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.320 so I'm in the record books there and they just 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.120 put me in the Hall of Fame. And then I 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:07.520 went on the m m A and I won five 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.240 UFC titles and that's just kind of where people kind 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.880 of know me from. But more importantly, I just I 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.000 never wanted to be boxing. Everybody wanted me to do 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.800 one thing and they wanted me to just be one person. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:25.559 But I'm like, I'm an artist, so I do everything music, TV, production, fighting, really, 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:32.920 painting and art. So anything, um um like the w 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.520 W E w w W. Yeah, I was on. I 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.839 was in the training account for the w W. Yeah. 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:43.120 I was in as a motherfucker. And it's so dog, 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.000 I'm trying to take Let me tell you what it is. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.240 What you're doing is real. Now. You asked me if 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.800 it's real? All right now if I don't want to 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.360 get a ghost up, but I'll tell you what though. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:55.560 I got a humeboy in a book. It to you right, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:05:00.960 He liked, yeah, but book you want a whole lot 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.760 of championships, man, and he stood up right. So I'm 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:09.039 looking at this big old motherfucking I'm like, man, I 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:14.600 choked slam and ship out of the tea and he 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:23.960 probably thought something different that w W crazy man. I 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:25.680 looked at the man and said, I choked show him 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.000 to shoot out of chef. That's when reality hits you, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:35.279 like would beat your Now that real training is real 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:41.760 and hurts turn up. You gotta hear so hard ninety 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.200 nine all over again. You called the chief with where's 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:50.920 Jake bring the boat? Shouts out to my home way 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.919 Book of Tea. No, that's my dog man like like 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:59.240 it's it's it's hard to um um, it's hard to fake, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.760 like dropping the motherfucker, you know what I mean. Hit. Yeah, 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.680 I'm a big gass wrestling fan from a little kid. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.599 I don't really watch it right now. So after I 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:14.040 smelled what the rock was cooking? That was it? That 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.400 that smell? The does The thing about it is like 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.040 imagine like if you're fighting in real life, a lot 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.520 of time adrenalin gonna take over. Right, you do feel 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.240 that pain and you feel like afterwards, So if somebody 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.440 clothesline you for real, boom you but offen it goes 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.240 crazy on it, right, But when you know it's coming 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.000 and you gotta look like you don't and you gotta 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.479 hit it and take the fall, like in a way 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.320 where it looks tragic that ship hurt because it's not 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.560 really adrenaline. Adrenaling is like I'm in this, but when 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.440 you're actually going through whatever they're doing, like I did it. 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.960 It's a whole different thing because I've been wrestling. I've 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:54.159 been slammed. I've slammed people know it ain't nobody doing that. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:59.400 M How cold are you find not? Yeah? How would you? 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:07.120 Two hundred right? You can get done to you tell 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.280 us how you got even even got interested in wrestling, 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:11.960 because you know a lot of our kids, you know 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.480 a lot of black kids that you know come from 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.760 my background. You know, we grow up and we had 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.200 this idea of being a rapper or an athlete, and 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:25.000 you chose, and the wrestling is it is. That's not 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.520 the basketball, but it's not stereotypical basketball and football at 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.000 a fighter, you know, but but wrestling it is one 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.360 of those things we don't that's not typically on you 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.720 from throwing off off the top because they're looking at 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:40.320 it like it's a little heart, you know what I mean, 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.560 it's kind of a tight uniform. And most kids ain't 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.960 really checking for that. They want like bagging sharks. They 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.520 want socks, they wanted they want look cool stuff. They 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.120 want to make jump shots. They don't want to have 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.360 ugly years. And you know what I mean, you have 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.200 to shave your face face with her look crazy so 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:59.080 for me, I was I was really My coach said, hey, 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.600 we got wrestling practice today. You come to wrestling practice. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.160 I'm like, man, I ain't coming to the wrestling practice. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.400 So he like grabbing me up, like you know, you 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.960 come into practice. So I went. But in my mind 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.520 it's w W So I'm in there ready for the ropes. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.880 I'm ready to jump off some stuff. But I don't 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.080 know that it's not that kind of wrest I never 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.640 heard of regular wrestling. So I went into practice and 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.680 then I didn't know no moves that It wasna like 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.320 my first day. Everybody had already started and he was like, um, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.680 you played football. I said yeah, I played football and 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.320 he said you know how to tackle somebody and I 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.240 said yeah. So he said that's all you gotta do 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.000 is tackle him and trying to smash that back to 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:33.880 the mat. And then that's how that's pretty much the 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.000 just a wrestling. So he was in practice and I 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.719 was young, and when I was young, I didn't I 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:39.360 didn't know to think, and I didn't know the care. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.080 So I was just slamming everybody boom boom boom boom 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.560 boom boom boom boom, and he was like, we gotta 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.520 wrestling tournament tomorrow. You should come to the wrestling tournament. 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.680 I remember, I only got one day of practice. I 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.080 don't even know what the movis is call. I don't 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.320 know what's illegal. I don't know nothing. So I went 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:57.160 to this tournament and I wrestled this kid, and everybody 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:58.800 was like getting warmed up. And I don't even know 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.840 how to warm up. I don't really don't their names moves. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.600 So I rushed his kid, I shook his hand. I 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.920 all I remembers football tackle. So I picked him up 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.120 and I slammed him so hard. He had his tongue 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.040 out of his mouth right and bit down in the 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.160 tip of his tongue. He bit the tip of his 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.160 tongue off. It was blood on the matter is blood everywhere. 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.920 And I was freaked. I'm like, I'm broke. I can't 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.319 pay for this mother hospital bills. But every all the 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.200 kids was around me was scared to me after that, 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.320 and I was like, I like this. I like the 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.040 way that felt when they was when they feared me 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.200 a little bit. So then I won that tournament, and 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.440 there was history after that. I just kept wrestling, but 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.720 I never if someone would have showed me the uniform, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.680 told me the wrestling. I saw a match, I would 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:42.480 have never did it. It is, man, because it's no 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.839 way I'm still yeah. I mean it's it takes a 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.840 lot of energy, like somebody like trying to force their 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.800 position on you as you're trying to resist it. It's 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.319 never in their static straining basketball. You can relax a 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.360 little bit, but imagine being tense and flexed the whole 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:01.000 time and always every little move it's like a next 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.079 chain move you gotta be ready for. It's a it's 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.360 a chess match, like a static strength chess match, if 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.160 that makes sense. I can't. I can't imagine, like don't 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:10.760 you have to like get on forward and then somebody 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.480 get on top of you and then y'all go from 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.480 there and some ship you gotta try to escape, like 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.880 from the bottom position. So a lot of people aren't 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.400 good at that. I was terrible at that. When I 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.680 first started, I was like I was really smart. So 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.280 I'm like, I'm gonna take this dude down a lot 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.960 five six times, Okay, So I'm gonna be up by 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.720 mad points. I'm gonna defer to him. I'm gonna let 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.920 him pick the choice, he's gonna pick down, I'm gonna 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:35.920 let him up. I'm gonna take him down some more 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.320 so I can kind of break your spirit. Now in 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.520 the last round, if I choose to go down, then 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.280 he's not gonna pin me. He only got two minutes. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:45.840 He's not gonna make up the points. So I want 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.599 a lot of matches that way. Or I said, I 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.440 don't feel like going down. I just want neutral, so 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.240 I went back on my feet. So I was before 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.120 I got to college, I never really learned how to 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.400 get away from the bottom. And then I spent one 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.000 whole year when my coaches made me learn how to 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.160 get away from the bottom. And the only match as 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.320 I ever lost, I was like forty seven and seven. 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.559 I won a crapot match in my freshman year. All 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.360 seven matches I couldn't get away from bottom. The only 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.760 way to somebody beat me. And then when you learn 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:16.840 to get away from yeah, because black black athletes and 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:22.400 wrestling are the same stigma as other sports. Strong, athletic, explosive, right, 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.720 but wrestling is a very skilled sport. So most African 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.560 Americans to get off the bottom position as a mindset, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.640 I'm not gonna let another man, keep me down. I 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.480 gotta get the funk up. That's really all it bolls out. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.120 So it's technique to get up. But when you sircumminists, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.440 except I can't get away all. Uh, that's that's that's 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.040 when we say now. Nor if you keep trying to 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.920 get up and everything you got, it's so hard to 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.640 maintain top position when somebody's fighting hard to get up, 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.840 most likely gonna let you up. So when I got 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.520 that mindset, it kind of separated me. So I didn't 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.960 want people to look at me as just an athlete 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.120 that was strong and explosive and fast and had an 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.480 extra calf muscle, you know what I mean. And I 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.400 had some matter. I lost. I was tired. I was 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.160 cutting too much weight, so I lost. When my freshman 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.240 year in college, I was in the match to be 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.240 an All American as a freshman, which is like not 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.320 very likely. In that match, I lost in overtime because 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.000 I was too tired to defend myself. And I told myself, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.560 that's the last time that severn l happened to me. 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.880 I made Cardiff Cardio. I made it in my life 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.640 because you know, when you think about an athlete, we're 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.280 just not getting to the point where we're accepting the 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.240 quarterback is an African American athlete, right, the skill positions 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.160 are golf or something different like that. Right, We're looked 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.360 at running back and basketball players and stuff like that. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.240 So I tell my kids, you have to be in 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.840 shape more than everybody else because everybody looking for you 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.920 to fade. Like they used to say in college, chocolate melts. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.760 It's mad, disrespectful, mad racist. That means that if you 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.600 keep putting pressure on the African American wrestler, they'll break. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.120 So coaches used to say chocolate melts. So when you 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.160 wrestle an African American wrestler, the rest of you to 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.200 try to beat us is be really square, grab our risks, 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.000 control our hands, block all the shots, let you try, 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:07.720 let you try to, let you gas out, and then 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.640 try to go after you. Yeah, how receptive was your 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:16.520 family and you're pursuing wrestling In wrestling, that was really 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:20.199 receptive because you know, um, nobody ever did it in 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.760 my family. Um, nobody really ever did it in my neighborhood. 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:24.680 Actually my next one neighbor wrestle a little bit, but 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.760 outside of that and had nobody else that wrestled um. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.840 The thing they took card was fighting because I was 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.600 such a you know, wrestling. I got a college degree, 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.520 I went on I was an All American. It's kind 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.480 of like a Schlussick sport, and fighting at that time 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.680 wasn't making money. It was kind of like a bar 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.000 like bar fighting. So my mom was like, what's going 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.520 on you? You're gonna through identity crisis and what's wrong 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.800 with you? Like like they was worried about me because 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.280 why am I doing this fighting? So I got a 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.240 college degree, I'm a coach, you know, I mean, I 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.080 did this whole thing. Why I'm All American? Why am 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.280 I going into this crazy fighting bars for free? I 0:13:56.360 --> 0:14:00.080 fought for free for three years. But I just I 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.720 don't know. I just want to do it in adrenaline. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.280 But I felt bad when I first started doing it 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.760 because I was like, I'm telling my friend, I said, man, 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.640 I feel like I can kill somebody with my hands. 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.920 I don't know if that's godly or no. I felt 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:14.800 like I felt like if I wanted to, I could, 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:16.800 But then I don't know if that was a good thing. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.280 That's a good thing. But think think about this, how 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.600 many times they've been warning it, looking the Bible, looking 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.560 at any religion, people have been warn forever, right, So 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.720 that's a good thing. Man. I know how you feel 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.720 really because like when you especially when you're in tiptop shake, yeah, 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.840 you feel like you can beat the world, like anybody 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.360 can get it. Yeah, with your with your bad hands. 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:40.160 Like like right now, I feel like anybody across right 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.120 directly across. I feel like I feel like I'm would 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:48.160 be mediating, afficiating this never to get up what I'm saying. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.040 I see right now, I'm gonna be right in the 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:57.280 middle officiating. Yeah, Willy has always been violent. Man. My 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:02.400 my question is that does professional wrestling like the wrestling 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.160 that you did, does that does that pay like a 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.760 nice check? Na? I mean in collegian wrestling, the professional 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.320 wrestling is to w W, So that's what professional because 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.920 they make money. They call the wrestling that we do. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.520 Collegiate wrestling is really amateur because you can't be a 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.920 professional go to the Olympics. So when these guys go 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.160 to the Olympics, you don't make money in to the 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.400 Olympics and they only make money. So when you go 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:32.600 into the the w W E and that kind of ship. 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.520 I don't like calling names, so bleep that ship. I 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.520 meanmor yo. But when you go into that part of 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.520 wrestling that's considered pro wrestling, that's consider pro wrestling, that's 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.320 what makes money. Yeah, amateur wrestling is the actual sport 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.440 that you see in collegiate or Olympics. You you can 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:53.480 get sponsorships where they like, I'm sponsored by UM, I 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.040 don't know, Sun Kiss Kids or Dave Schultz or something 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.280 like that. They'll they'll like you, they'll give you a 0:15:58.320 --> 0:15:59.880 little bit of money. It'd be like fire in front 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:03.600 of house of money would be some nothing UM uniforms gear. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.520 And then when you go you have a past to 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.480 say he wrestled with Sun Kiss Kids or Dave Schultz. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.160 And some people thought that was a flex. But even 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.720 when you win the Olympics, like these guys aren't even 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:18.080 getting a million bucks. That's the top of the top. Yeah, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:22.800 they're getting hundreds of thousands. Maybe if that m I 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.640 feel like you had a gold medal and from Olympics, 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:28.120 you should be getting the whole whole tickets where they 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.680 get their money from endorsements, right, that's where the money comes. 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.720 They ain't getting the money. That's why I I'm doing. 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.360 That's why I said I'm done doing freestyle because that's 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.120 what I feel like. I'm doing it for free. That's 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:46.320 the support. Uh, that's the genre. So it's greco Roman 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.800 when you can't touch the legs and freestyles. When you 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.760 see the guys throwing that can do the regular takens, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:52.840 that's the international. So I said, I ain't doing free 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.040 something more. I can wrestle somebody in the M M 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.680 A fight and make money. So then I just makes 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:03.160 martial arts. Um, that's where the money is in the 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.280 m M is now there. It wasn't there before when 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.600 I got into it. It wasn't I found the first 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.119 three years for free or ticket sales. I remember my 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.840 first payday was three hundred bucks five hundred and I 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:20.560 thought I was living Levita Local when I made a 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:27.600 thousand fight. Knowing that you were part of the people 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:32.479 that built M M M A to what it is 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.879 now and that you didn't get the money that you 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:40.320 perhaps should have gotten back then, you know, uh, how 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.919 do you feel about that? And and and what are 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.960 you doing to make sure that you don't like just 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.639 leave that all behind and throw it away because you 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.480 still have some great influence. You still have a a name, 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.000 you got a brand, and you can still get money 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.360 in in that like are you doing anything? I can 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.760 get money more than I was able to get then, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.720 because I'm the only free agent in the sport and 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.600 combat sports. No other fighter can say they can go 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.800 and fight anywhere in any place, in any country, any 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.760 format of combat kickboxing, boxing, m m A and get 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.560 paid the top dollars. Now I'm in a position, but 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.159 I had to get out of a contract. I had 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.200 to get out of every time I want the UFC title, 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.359 they extended my contract another year or another actually a 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.480 four twelve twelve colands a year. So when you won, 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.240 it was good because you're making more money. But you 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.560 can't go and see the free market in the free agency. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.080 So I can leave the UFC make four times an 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.359 amount of money I made as a champion. Now I 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.080 look back and I look at you know me, all 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.280 the battles I fall, and I was a guy that 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.040 was just they marked me as like the public enemy. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.040 I was like the Tupac m m A. Because I 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:48.960 still don't want I stood on. I never been I 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:52.080 never buckled. I never let the industry pay buy me out. 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.920 And all the fighters that are now speaking up for themselves. 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.000 I know I was always a trailblazer in the Pioneer. 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.600 So yesterday they had a fight, and I looked at 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.840 all the outs and guys that are not even the 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.600 main event are making the same amount of money I 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:10.199 was making as an undisputed reigning defending champion, right and 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.359 the guys they just won his first title ever made 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.280 double the amount of money I made in my last fight, 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.680 which would have been my fifth Tide of Defense. So 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.520 I can look at that in crowdspiel Milk, But I 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.320 can also look at I paid that way because now 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.720 the conversations are different when you're go into the office 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.679 to talk to boss. But when I go to the 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.240 table to get paid, people already know don't come to 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.879 me with peanuts. You know, Like I'm in a negotiation 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:36.760 right now and they want to they want to pay 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.040 me x, X, Y and Z, And then I'm like, 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.600 we can't do that. If you do it, this person's 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.399 gonna hear about it and they're gonna try to do it. 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:52.400 You're not about to do that. You only I turned 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:53.639 out a couple of things I kind of learned like 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.919 that maybe I shouldn't have. But then guy got a 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.800 way of bringing it back. How did the Jake Paul 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.920 fights come come about? You know, I was actually cornering 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.800 my homie, been asking, been asking, got a fight, and 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.560