1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Get you know, boys, it's back and reoded all in 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This is for 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: the streets, the real the railroading, the distant franchise, the 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: truth escape building, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: South East coat is the g b my keeping your 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and wants to be 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: drips head by. And then the system is so corrupt 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: they threw the rock out of their heads and then 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on code 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: and me and dancing for no furdament biscuits. It's Willie 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: d y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively we are 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: the GHET old boys. Readloaded, reloaded with another episode of 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: beautiful world in the studio Towering wood Lee, the chapters 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: in the building, the Realist. I appreciate your, appreciate you 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Yeah, man, um, tell me what's what it's 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: like to be and m m a fighter because you 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: know boxing is my background. I've always had a problem 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: with people kicking me like I thought kicking with disrespectful shit. 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: Ever do you ever feel that way? Was somebody kick you, 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: does it turn up something in you? I mean when 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: I was younger, we fall in the street a lot, 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: fought in gangs. I falled like just a fight for sure. Yeah. 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: I grew up in St. Louis and fighting was just 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: a way of life. Um So for me, karate was 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: a big thing because Karate Kid that came out. So 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: we was doing mad KARATEI in the crib. I remember 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: my my daughter would not kick me in the face 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: so hard, and my you know, you get that headache 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: in the back of your eyeball. He mean kicking me 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: in these I had a headache in the back of 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: my eyeball so bad. But I told myself, you bet 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: not cry, you bet not cry, You better not cry. 35 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: I just how old, I mean, probably like ten you 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: still crying? You get kicking the nose at thirties in 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: the nose right now? So so I was. I think 38 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: that's kind of like where I kind of built that 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: extra layer of skin that like, even if something hurt, 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to show nobody her. So the 41 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: kicking part came later, Like I really, most of my fights. 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't do a lot of kicking. Um. I wanted 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: to box my whole life, but my mom would never 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: let me box. So that was the only sport that 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: I really, really really wanted to do that I never did. 46 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: My grandfather was a big boxing promoter in St. Louis 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: and Detroit, Cash, just Clay, everybody you can think of. 48 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: He promoted everybody, so it's kind of my blood. Everybody Spinks, 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Corey Spinks, um so we um. I wrestled in college 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: and when I graduated college, the Ultimate Fighter Show came 51 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: out and I was like, let me give it a 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: try because I couldn't start boxing that at that age 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: because I was twenty three years old. Most people started 54 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: boxing and as teenagers, so I said, let me try 55 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: this Emma thing. And I was a coach at first, 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: teaching people to wrestlant stop people from taking them down, 57 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: because that's when the wrestler was coming in and and taking 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: everybody down and couldn't stop it. So I was kind 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: of like the the ob So I was teaching them 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: how to stop the wrestlers from taking them down. And 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: I was sparring so much and training so much two 62 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: and three days because I was like the number one 63 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: coach in the country. Everybody flew me out to training. Yeah, nobody. 64 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: I was a number one coach for for wrestling because 65 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: nobody knew how to handle the wrestler. So I was 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: in such your shape, I'm like, well, let me just 67 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: try this. So I just really got an emvac kind 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: of trying it out, and I said shot out. Since 69 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm man, here's go ahead and go cradit with it. 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: But you started very young. I mean you you you 71 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: were on the wrestling Did you want a championship on 72 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: the on the collegiate level? You want the championship on 73 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: the high school level, and you won the championship on 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: the pro level, you know, I mean like you got 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: that transpective thing. Yeah, I want a couple of state 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: championships in high school. And then I went to University 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: of Missouri. I was All American and when they first 78 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: Big two title that they ever had at the cool 79 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: and then UM had over a hundred of something victories, 80 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: so I'm in the record books there and they just 81 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: put me in the Hall of Fame. And then I 82 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: went on the m m A and I won five 83 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: UFC titles and that's just kind of where people kind 84 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: of know me from. But more importantly, I just I 85 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: never wanted to be boxing. Everybody wanted me to do 86 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: one thing and they wanted me to just be one person. 87 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm an artist, so I do everything music, TV, production, fighting, really, 88 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: painting and art. So anything, um um like the w 89 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: W E w w W. Yeah, I was on. I 90 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: was in the training account for the w W. Yeah. 91 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: I was in as a motherfucker. And it's so dog, 92 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to take Let me tell you what it is. 93 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: What you're doing is real. Now. You asked me if 94 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: it's real? All right now if I don't want to 95 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: get a ghost up, but I'll tell you what though. 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: I got a humeboy in a book. It to you right, 97 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: He liked, yeah, but book you want a whole lot 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: of championships, man, and he stood up right. So I'm 99 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: looking at this big old motherfucking I'm like, man, I 100 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: choked slam and ship out of the tea and he 101 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: probably thought something different that w W crazy man. I 102 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: looked at the man and said, I choked show him 103 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: to shoot out of chef. That's when reality hits you, 104 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: like would beat your Now that real training is real 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: and hurts turn up. You gotta hear so hard ninety 106 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: nine all over again. You called the chief with where's 107 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: Jake bring the boat? Shouts out to my home way 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: Book of Tea. No, that's my dog man like like 109 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard to um um, it's hard to fake, 110 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: like dropping the motherfucker, you know what I mean. Hit. Yeah, 111 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm a big gass wrestling fan from a little kid. 112 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: I don't really watch it right now. So after I 113 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: smelled what the rock was cooking? That was it? That 114 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: that smell? The does The thing about it is like 115 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: imagine like if you're fighting in real life, a lot 116 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: of time adrenalin gonna take over. Right, you do feel 117 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: that pain and you feel like afterwards, So if somebody 118 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: clothesline you for real, boom you but offen it goes 119 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: crazy on it, right, But when you know it's coming 120 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: and you gotta look like you don't and you gotta 121 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: hit it and take the fall, like in a way 122 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: where it looks tragic that ship hurt because it's not 123 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: really adrenaline. Adrenaling is like I'm in this, but when 124 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: you're actually going through whatever they're doing, like I did it. 125 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: It's a whole different thing because I've been wrestling. I've 126 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: been slammed. I've slammed people know it ain't nobody doing that. 127 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: M How cold are you find not? Yeah? How would you? 128 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Two hundred right? You can get done to you tell 129 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: us how you got even even got interested in wrestling, 130 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: because you know a lot of our kids, you know 131 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: a lot of black kids that you know come from 132 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: my background. You know, we grow up and we had 133 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: this idea of being a rapper or an athlete, and 134 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: you chose, and the wrestling is it is. That's not 135 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: the basketball, but it's not stereotypical basketball and football at 136 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: a fighter, you know, but but wrestling it is one 137 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: of those things we don't that's not typically on you 138 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: from throwing off off the top because they're looking at 139 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: it like it's a little heart, you know what I mean, 140 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of a tight uniform. And most kids ain't 141 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: really checking for that. They want like bagging sharks. They 142 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: want socks, they wanted they want look cool stuff. They 143 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: want to make jump shots. They don't want to have 144 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: ugly years. And you know what I mean, you have 145 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: to shave your face face with her look crazy so 146 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: for me, I was I was really My coach said, hey, 147 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: we got wrestling practice today. You come to wrestling practice. 148 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I ain't coming to the wrestling practice. 149 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: So he like grabbing me up, like you know, you 150 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: come into practice. So I went. But in my mind 151 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: it's w W So I'm in there ready for the ropes. 152 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm ready to jump off some stuff. But I don't 153 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: know that it's not that kind of wrest I never 154 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: heard of regular wrestling. So I went into practice and 155 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: then I didn't know no moves that It wasna like 156 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: my first day. Everybody had already started and he was like, um, 157 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: you played football. I said yeah, I played football and 158 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: he said you know how to tackle somebody and I 159 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: said yeah. So he said that's all you gotta do 160 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: is tackle him and trying to smash that back to 161 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: the mat. And then that's how that's pretty much the 162 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: just a wrestling. So he was in practice and I 163 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: was young, and when I was young, I didn't I 164 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: didn't know to think, and I didn't know the care. 165 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: So I was just slamming everybody boom boom boom boom 166 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom, and he was like, we gotta 167 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: wrestling tournament tomorrow. You should come to the wrestling tournament. 168 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: I remember, I only got one day of practice. I 169 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: don't even know what the movis is call. I don't 170 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: know what's illegal. I don't know nothing. So I went 171 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: to this tournament and I wrestled this kid, and everybody 172 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: was like getting warmed up. And I don't even know 173 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: how to warm up. I don't really don't their names moves. 174 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: So I rushed his kid, I shook his hand. I 175 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: all I remembers football tackle. So I picked him up 176 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: and I slammed him so hard. He had his tongue 177 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: out of his mouth right and bit down in the 178 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: tip of his tongue. He bit the tip of his 179 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: tongue off. It was blood on the matter is blood everywhere. 180 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: And I was freaked. I'm like, I'm broke. I can't 181 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: pay for this mother hospital bills. But every all the 182 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: kids was around me was scared to me after that, 183 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, I like this. I like the 184 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: way that felt when they was when they feared me 185 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. So then I won that tournament, and 186 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: there was history after that. I just kept wrestling, but 187 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: I never if someone would have showed me the uniform, 188 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: told me the wrestling. I saw a match, I would 189 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: have never did it. It is, man, because it's no 190 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: way I'm still yeah. I mean it's it takes a 191 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: lot of energy, like somebody like trying to force their 192 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: position on you as you're trying to resist it. It's 193 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: never in their static straining basketball. You can relax a 194 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: little bit, but imagine being tense and flexed the whole 195 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: time and always every little move it's like a next 196 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: chain move you gotta be ready for. It's a it's 197 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: a chess match, like a static strength chess match, if 198 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: that makes sense. I can't. I can't imagine, like don't 199 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: you have to like get on forward and then somebody 200 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: get on top of you and then y'all go from 201 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: there and some ship you gotta try to escape, like 202 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: from the bottom position. So a lot of people aren't 203 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: good at that. I was terrible at that. When I 204 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: first started, I was like I was really smart. So 205 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna take this dude down a lot 206 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: five six times, Okay, So I'm gonna be up by 207 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: mad points. I'm gonna defer to him. I'm gonna let 208 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: him pick the choice, he's gonna pick down, I'm gonna 209 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: let him up. I'm gonna take him down some more 210 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: so I can kind of break your spirit. Now in 211 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: the last round, if I choose to go down, then 212 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: he's not gonna pin me. He only got two minutes. 213 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: He's not gonna make up the points. So I want 214 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: a lot of matches that way. Or I said, I 215 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: don't feel like going down. I just want neutral, so 216 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: I went back on my feet. So I was before 217 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: I got to college, I never really learned how to 218 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: get away from the bottom. And then I spent one 219 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: whole year when my coaches made me learn how to 220 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: get away from the bottom. And the only match as 221 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: I ever lost, I was like forty seven and seven. 222 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: I won a crapot match in my freshman year. All 223 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: seven matches I couldn't get away from bottom. The only 224 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: way to somebody beat me. And then when you learn 225 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: to get away from yeah, because black black athletes and 226 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: wrestling are the same stigma as other sports. Strong, athletic, explosive, right, 227 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: but wrestling is a very skilled sport. So most African 228 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: Americans to get off the bottom position as a mindset, 229 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let another man, keep me down. I 230 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: gotta get the funk up. That's really all it bolls out. 231 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: So it's technique to get up. But when you sircumminists, 232 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: except I can't get away all. Uh, that's that's that's 233 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: when we say now. Nor if you keep trying to 234 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: get up and everything you got, it's so hard to 235 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: maintain top position when somebody's fighting hard to get up, 236 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: most likely gonna let you up. So when I got 237 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: that mindset, it kind of separated me. So I didn't 238 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: want people to look at me as just an athlete 239 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: that was strong and explosive and fast and had an 240 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: extra calf muscle, you know what I mean. And I 241 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: had some matter. I lost. I was tired. I was 242 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: cutting too much weight, so I lost. When my freshman 243 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: year in college, I was in the match to be 244 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: an All American as a freshman, which is like not 245 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: very likely. In that match, I lost in overtime because 246 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: I was too tired to defend myself. And I told myself, 247 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: that's the last time that severn l happened to me. 248 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: I made Cardiff Cardio. I made it in my life 249 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: because you know, when you think about an athlete, we're 250 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: just not getting to the point where we're accepting the 251 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: quarterback is an African American athlete, right, the skill positions 252 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: are golf or something different like that. Right, We're looked 253 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: at running back and basketball players and stuff like that. 254 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: So I tell my kids, you have to be in 255 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: shape more than everybody else because everybody looking for you 256 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: to fade. Like they used to say in college, chocolate melts. 257 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: It's mad, disrespectful, mad racist. That means that if you 258 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: keep putting pressure on the African American wrestler, they'll break. 259 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: So coaches used to say chocolate melts. So when you 260 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: wrestle an African American wrestler, the rest of you to 261 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: try to beat us is be really square, grab our risks, 262 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: control our hands, block all the shots, let you try, 263 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: let you try to, let you gas out, and then 264 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: try to go after you. Yeah, how receptive was your 265 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: family and you're pursuing wrestling In wrestling, that was really 266 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: receptive because you know, um, nobody ever did it in 267 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: my family. Um, nobody really ever did it in my neighborhood. 268 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: Actually my next one neighbor wrestle a little bit, but 269 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: outside of that and had nobody else that wrestled um. 270 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: The thing they took card was fighting because I was 271 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: such a you know, wrestling. I got a college degree, 272 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: I went on I was an All American. It's kind 273 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: of like a Schlussick sport, and fighting at that time 274 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: wasn't making money. It was kind of like a bar 275 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: like bar fighting. So my mom was like, what's going 276 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: on you? You're gonna through identity crisis and what's wrong 277 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: with you? Like like they was worried about me because 278 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: why am I doing this fighting? So I got a 279 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: college degree, I'm a coach, you know, I mean, I 280 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: did this whole thing. Why I'm All American? Why am 281 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: I going into this crazy fighting bars for free? I 282 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: fought for free for three years. But I just I 283 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: don't know. I just want to do it in adrenaline. 284 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: But I felt bad when I first started doing it 285 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm telling my friend, I said, man, 286 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I can kill somebody with my hands. 287 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's godly or no. I felt 288 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: like I felt like if I wanted to, I could, 289 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: But then I don't know if that was a good thing. 290 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: That's a good thing. But think think about this, how 291 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: many times they've been warning it, looking the Bible, looking 292 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: at any religion, people have been warn forever, right, So 293 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Man. I know how you feel 294 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: really because like when you especially when you're in tiptop shake, yeah, 295 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: you feel like you can beat the world, like anybody 296 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: can get it. Yeah, with your with your bad hands. 297 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: Like like right now, I feel like anybody across right 298 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: directly across. I feel like I feel like I'm would 299 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: be mediating, afficiating this never to get up what I'm saying. 300 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: I see right now, I'm gonna be right in the 301 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: middle officiating. Yeah, Willy has always been violent. Man. My 302 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: my question is that does professional wrestling like the wrestling 303 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: that you did, does that does that pay like a 304 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: nice check? Na? I mean in collegian wrestling, the professional 305 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: wrestling is to w W, So that's what professional because 306 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: they make money. They call the wrestling that we do. 307 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: Collegiate wrestling is really amateur because you can't be a 308 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: professional go to the Olympics. So when these guys go 309 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: to the Olympics, you don't make money in to the 310 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Olympics and they only make money. So when you go 311 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: into the the w W E and that kind of ship. 312 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't like calling names, so bleep that ship. I 313 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: meanmor yo. But when you go into that part of 314 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: wrestling that's considered pro wrestling, that's consider pro wrestling, that's 315 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: what makes money. Yeah, amateur wrestling is the actual sport 316 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: that you see in collegiate or Olympics. You you can 317 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: get sponsorships where they like, I'm sponsored by UM, I 318 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: don't know, Sun Kiss Kids or Dave Schultz or something 319 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: like that. They'll they'll like you, they'll give you a 320 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: little bit of money. It'd be like fire in front 321 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: of house of money would be some nothing UM uniforms gear. 322 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: And then when you go you have a past to 323 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: say he wrestled with Sun Kiss Kids or Dave Schultz. 324 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: And some people thought that was a flex. But even 325 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: when you win the Olympics, like these guys aren't even 326 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: getting a million bucks. That's the top of the top. Yeah, 327 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: they're getting hundreds of thousands. Maybe if that m I 328 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: feel like you had a gold medal and from Olympics, 329 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: you should be getting the whole whole tickets where they 330 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: get their money from endorsements, right, that's where the money comes. 331 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: They ain't getting the money. That's why I I'm doing. 332 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: That's why I said I'm done doing freestyle because that's 333 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: what I feel like. I'm doing it for free. That's 334 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: the support. Uh, that's the genre. So it's greco Roman 335 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: when you can't touch the legs and freestyles. When you 336 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: see the guys throwing that can do the regular takens, 337 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: that's the international. So I said, I ain't doing free 338 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: something more. I can wrestle somebody in the M M 339 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: A fight and make money. So then I just makes 340 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: martial arts. Um, that's where the money is in the 341 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: m M is now there. It wasn't there before when 342 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: I got into it. It wasn't I found the first 343 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: three years for free or ticket sales. I remember my 344 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: first payday was three hundred bucks five hundred and I 345 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: thought I was living Levita Local when I made a 346 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: thousand fight. Knowing that you were part of the people 347 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 1: that built M M M A to what it is 348 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: now and that you didn't get the money that you 349 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: perhaps should have gotten back then, you know, uh, how 350 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: do you feel about that? And and and what are 351 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: you doing to make sure that you don't like just 352 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: leave that all behind and throw it away because you 353 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: still have some great influence. You still have a a name, 354 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: you got a brand, and you can still get money 355 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: in in that like are you doing anything? I can 356 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: get money more than I was able to get then, 357 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: because I'm the only free agent in the sport and 358 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: combat sports. No other fighter can say they can go 359 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: and fight anywhere in any place, in any country, any 360 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: format of combat kickboxing, boxing, m m A and get 361 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: paid the top dollars. Now I'm in a position, but 362 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: I had to get out of a contract. I had 363 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: to get out of every time I want the UFC title, 364 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: they extended my contract another year or another actually a 365 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: four twelve twelve colands a year. So when you won, 366 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: it was good because you're making more money. But you 367 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: can't go and see the free market in the free agency. 368 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: So I can leave the UFC make four times an 369 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: amount of money I made as a champion. Now I 370 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: look back and I look at you know me, all 371 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: the battles I fall, and I was a guy that 372 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: was just they marked me as like the public enemy. 373 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: I was like the Tupac m m A. Because I 374 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: still don't want I stood on. I never been I 375 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: never buckled. I never let the industry pay buy me out. 376 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: And all the fighters that are now speaking up for themselves. 377 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: I know I was always a trailblazer in the Pioneer. 378 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: So yesterday they had a fight, and I looked at 379 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: all the outs and guys that are not even the 380 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: main event are making the same amount of money I 381 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: was making as an undisputed reigning defending champion, right and 382 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: the guys they just won his first title ever made 383 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: double the amount of money I made in my last fight, 384 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: which would have been my fifth Tide of Defense. So 385 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: I can look at that in crowdspiel Milk, But I 386 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: can also look at I paid that way because now 387 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: the conversations are different when you're go into the office 388 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: to talk to boss. But when I go to the 389 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: table to get paid, people already know don't come to 390 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: me with peanuts. You know, Like I'm in a negotiation 391 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: right now and they want to they want to pay 392 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: me x, X, Y and Z, And then I'm like, 393 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: we can't do that. If you do it, this person's 394 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: gonna hear about it and they're gonna try to do it. 395 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: You're not about to do that. You only I turned 396 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: out a couple of things I kind of learned like 397 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: that maybe I shouldn't have. But then guy got a 398 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: way of bringing it back. How did the Jake Paul 399 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: fights come come about? You know, I was actually cornering 400 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: my homie, been asking, been asking, got a fight, and 401 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: once again he had retired from the UFC right and 402 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: he got permission, provisional permission because he still was technically 403 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: a contract to a fight. Jake Um, he helped me 404 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: win world titles. He was my teammate in college, multiple 405 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: time national champion, world champion. M a fighter, he's a 406 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: legend and Um he's been there for me for a 407 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: lot of fights. And he's a He's a wrestler that cardio. 408 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: You can't even compare nobody to his cardio. He'll he'll 409 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: never get tired in a million years. But when I 410 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: was getting into top Shade, he was my measuring stick 411 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: and he would always let me know you ready to go. 412 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: And I always appreciate that. So when he asked me 413 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: to help him out, I said, I'm there. I said, 414 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: I got my own stuff coming up. He said, I 415 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: don't even need to train with you, I just want 416 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: you to be at the fight. So I was king 417 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: for him at the fight. We get backstage and Um, 418 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: de's Jake and his crew. They mean they came from 419 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: the YouTube world. Everything is a prank, Everything is a guy. 420 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: That's the way they take it to make it light. 421 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: I bet you can't do this. So I'm gonna fight 422 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: this guy that's a champion. If he wins and losers, 423 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: he can't really lose, right. So I went in the 424 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: back and I'm like, all right, let me check your gloves. 425 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: Make sure you ain't throwing the fucking you know, I 426 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: mean brickson or something like that, So you have to 427 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: go and check the gloves upon it. Him and his 428 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: guys are kind of like trying to like rough with 429 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: my feathers to try to play the mind game. And 430 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: I was like, if you know me, you really know 431 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: I don't look around like that, So yeah, I can 432 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: say whatever you want. Let's he just to get these 433 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: gloves six. So then they started trying to go back 434 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: and forth, and I'm thinking to myself. Part of me 435 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: is like, I will smack the dude. The second part 436 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: is you're Dudefinn get the biggest pay that he ever got. 437 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: Protected back. Don't don't do no boysh it. This ain't 438 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: your fight. You're here for your dog. So I kind 439 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: of let it go right at the end of the fight, 440 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: my dog lost, and then he said I want to 441 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: see Tyra fight him. I'm like, I'll fight him ship 442 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: And then after that all the fans wanted to see 443 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: me fight him. So I never really like politics for 444 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: a fight with the dude. Everybody else want to fight 445 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: him because he's paying a lot of money, right, paying 446 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: a lot of money. So I got the fight based 447 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: eilely because of what I did, and the fans wanted 448 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: to see him. Okay, So so the fight, the first fight, 449 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: it go down and well, I can't remember, can you 450 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: hear me? Remember? How did? How did it end? As 451 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: far I know? You lost the first the first the 452 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: first fight was um. First fight was a split decision, 453 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: So two judges said that he won and one just 454 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: said that I want Um. I thought I wanted to 455 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: fight because the first four rounds was kind of the 456 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: filling out rounds, right, But in the fourth rounds when 457 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: I knocked them through the ropes, technically that's a knockdown. 458 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: They didn't call it a knockdown. You if the ropes 459 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: is the only thing to keep you up, it should 460 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: be knockdown. Um. We went into the ring. The ropes 461 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: was to the back of my head that side. I've 462 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: never seen the rope that high in my life. And 463 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: they were really loose, right, So my coach made he 464 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: made a complaint about it. They tightened up the ropes. 465 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: When they tightened up the ropes, that's what actually brought 466 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: him back into the fight. So they would have left 467 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: the ropes to where it was when I hit him, 468 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: he would have hit the ropes and he would have 469 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: sat to his ass. But he sprung back forward after 470 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: I hit him, So I hit him. He went through ropes, 471 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm gonna try to send him through 472 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: the ropes. So when I when he bounced back, he 473 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: called me out here boom. So now I'm like, my 474 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: damn arm is mess up? Like finished the fight. I'm 475 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: like my orphan, like he's out of sockets. So then 476 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: I just started swinging crazy. I won that round. I 477 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: won the fifth round, I won a sixth round, and 478 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: run the seventh round, one eighth round. If you do 479 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: the math, four or five, six, seven, eight, if I 480 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: went five out of eight rounds, is no way he 481 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: could have won. Even if you clearly won the first 482 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: three rounds and he never knocked me down, so I 483 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: just felt like the fight was in Cleveland, Ohio, where 484 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: he's from. The whole storyline was about this emerging YouTuber 485 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, so it makes sense for the 486 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: storyline for me to win the fight, I would have 487 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: had to knock him out. So the second time we fall, 488 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: I was actually set filming Cobra Kai. I was filming 489 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: the Cobra Kad in Atlanta, and I got a call 490 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: from his manager and said, his opponent can't fight. Can 491 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: you fight? I said, let's go two weeks so I 492 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: jumped into the mix. I started. I did fourteen hours 493 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: of filming. I started training three or four in the morning. 494 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: Right when I got done a filming, whatever time it was, 495 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: we trained, went to sleep. I did that for two weeks. 496 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: I got in shape and I told you, I said, 497 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking better shape than him. I'm gonna look He's 498 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna be the one that looks hard. And though I 499 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: lost the fight, though I started for the knockout. The 500 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: first six rounds out of eight, I was smashing him 501 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: and he threw one punch at the same time I 502 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: dropped my hand and landed the punch. But I can't 503 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: take away from everything building up training for this fight, 504 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: getting prepared with two weeks notice, and being in better 505 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: shape than he was was that was actually the victory. 506 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: But but Jake's bigger than me. But he I don't 507 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: know exactly how much he weighs. But I feel like 508 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: if we walk out this door and somebody get in 509 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: my face, I'm not gonna check their weight. I'm not 510 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 1: gonna check their background. I'm not gonna check their record. 511 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to funk him up. Well, that's absolutely true. 512 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: But but talking about to be in croas proximity and 513 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: a person can lean on you for three three minutes, 514 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: I never felt I never felt that. I never felt 515 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: the lean. He wasn't a good clincher anyway, that's when 516 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: he was he they broke the fight up too much 517 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: because I was actually working them to the body. Um 518 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: my wrestling background, I was very good in the clinch. 519 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: So though people maybe bigger than me, like I work 520 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: with my homie Jay Glazier in um in l A 521 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: and I work with a lot of NFL guys and 522 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: they call it m m athletics. So I trained them 523 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: in martial arts. But trying to make a statis shrint 524 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: for like their sport. None of those heavyweights, none of 525 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: those guys, they will be tongue out falling over because 526 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: I just know how to move the person. He were 527 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: waiting at one ninety two. That's what I walk around 528 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: that one two. So I don't feel like I lost 529 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: that much weight. I mean I had some. I had some. 530 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: He had the height of light heavyweight, right something cruiserweight. Yeah, 531 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: you came in one night. I came in and one Yeah. 532 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: So I didn't mind that because I killed my body 533 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: for so many years. Man, I made one seventy from 534 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: two hundred, two hundred and five my entire m maker 535 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: and my dog could tell you many times it was 536 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: not cute watching me make weight the last point two 537 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: or point three, like I'm damn there dead. And did 538 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: you make more money like with those two fights with 539 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: Jake than you than you have made during your career? No, 540 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people, a lot of people. 541 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: I want to believe that, And I just let people 542 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: know what they know. Fans know everything, like right, according 543 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: to the fans, I'm retired. According to the fans. Uh, 544 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: the fight was fixed. According to the fans, I made 545 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: the most money I've ever made, but I've had m 546 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 1: a fight squard. I made millions of dollars. I mean 547 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: I made three million dollars on my fight. So people 548 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: think that I'm just not getting to the money. That 549 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: was the first big purse, but we had a pay 550 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: review structure, like I fought on a car. Madison Square Garden, 551 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: the first ever UFC fight in New York City, Madison 552 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: Square Garden. We have the biggest gate. Nobody's ever topped it, 553 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: not jay Z, not Ali. We got the top gate 554 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: every Madison Square Garden, the best card in receipts put 555 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: out but um but on that card, I had to 556 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: fight in the night out of every fight and it's 557 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: still today the best car they ever had. So I 558 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: made money. I made the most in a purse for 559 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: that fight, but I made in pay per view structure 560 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: and endorsements. I had already been making money. Did you 561 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: come from a big family? Big family? It's thirteen of you? 562 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: Is that where you get this? Uh? This this proud 563 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: list to fight and we fought. Man, we fall. It's 564 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: funny thing that my sisces with the fighters. They don't 565 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: want to snatch you out the car dragive, crowbar, beat 566 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: you up, stump you out, but I'll fall because I 567 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: that's where the life I lived. And and the fact 568 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: that I end up being a fighter. It's kind of 569 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: funny because if you look at my sisters and you 570 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: know how they were brought up, you thought one of 571 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: them when end up being a fighter. But yeah, we 572 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: definitely fought my control, last slice of pizza, So you 573 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: got what about your sister? A few times, a couple 574 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: of few with my sister calling all the way to 575 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: I was dog. She'd be a bad and when didn't 576 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: stop when you got to that to that championship stage, 577 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I had to stand up for 578 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: myself one time. But she did throw me through the drywall. Yeah, 579 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: she she had me in one hand, my brother on 580 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: the hand. She spent us in the circle, threw me 581 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: through the wall. So I was in the basement. I 582 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: ended up in a laundry room, and I just remember 583 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get my ask with Ma Mama. I 584 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: got beat up in embarrassed. We try to put the 585 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: little remember the the playhouse. I'm trying the playhouse over 586 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: the whole. My mom was like get upstairs. I'm like 587 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 1: now I got to get an ass with kids are crazy, man, 588 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: the biggest hole straight through the drywall. I don't know 589 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: how I perfectly he went through Between the M two 590 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: about four, I was in. I was in the lawn 591 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: your room, just sitting there like, yeah, my sister beat 592 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: me a mini times many embarrassing, not just a regular 593 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: like she beat me with a fishtick box on time 594 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: in front of my dogs. And that was like, you 595 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: can't never come back from it. Are you from Ferguson? Uh? St? Louis? 596 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: I from Ferguson, But until until the riots happened in Ferguson, 597 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: most people just called it St. Louis because it's too 598 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of like East part of like East part 599 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: of Houston. You wouldn't like the sounding from Houston. I mean, 600 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: if you're from St. Louis, then we get we're a narror. 601 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: Now we usually ask you what high school you want to? 602 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: That's the same Louis thing. You say, well s you 603 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: want to? We're judging you off the top. Do you 604 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: think you ever m Are you in the training? Now? Yeah? 605 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: You've been a fight. I can't say just yeah. But 606 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: so as I signed a dit in line, I let 607 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: you know Paul Man, Jake Paul, Dude, I don't know 608 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: why that kid got me so pumped up. The show 609 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: can fight, he can fight. He he's like this. He's 610 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: a kid that's like um. Everybody wanted him get his ask, 611 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: but they want to see him tak a lesson. He's 612 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: the bully that's laughing through the ass with him. You 613 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: never you never teach him a lesson. Remember he took 614 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: Floyd had they beat him up. He laughed the whole time, 615 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: so he really didn't He didn't really learn the lesson. 616 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: He laughed through it and then he got a tattoo. 617 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: Got your hat? Is Jake par a likable person to you? Um? 618 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: To me? I never, I just know. I know it 619 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: was behind the curtain, So I never took a personal 620 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: and I know what he's trying to do. I know 621 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: what he's trying to build his brand. Um, he respects 622 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: me a lot like Jake. Paul and his brother was 623 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: fans of me for a long time. Many many pictures 624 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: of like when they was babies. Want just a fan 625 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: of me is fighting his dad, his family. They've all 626 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: been fans of me for a very long time. But 627 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: to fight me proace just gave him the motivation that 628 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: if I thought somebody I looked up to or I 629 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, emulate because they came from a 630 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: wrestling background. Um. I never really had a problem with him, 631 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: but I knew that if I let his antics and 632 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: I let the bullshit get to me, I knew that 633 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: it would mess me up. The other people didn't take 634 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: them serious. I trained hard for him. I took him 635 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: way serious. I spent a lot of time, a lot 636 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: of sparring sessions where I was not winning against people 637 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: that are better, a lot of running. You know, Floyd, 638 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,959 Speaker 1: those guys they don't play about this running. He came 639 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: up to me said, hmm, you don't like to run, 640 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: do you, Floyd? And I'm like, what do you say? 641 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: I said, no, not for real. He said, That's why 642 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: I can fight so long, and that's why I've been 643 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: fighting for so many years. Very difficult, six seven days 644 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: a week running. So if I can go back, I 645 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: would incorporate that back into the wrestling, back when I 646 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: first started fighting, because we have to do so many 647 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: different we gotta do m M A training together, right. 648 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: That's usually once you got everything put in, but then 649 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: you gotta do wrestling. Ju gets to strength and conditioning. 650 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Then if you want to do some regular running, right 651 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: then if you want to massage, therapy, chiropractor, yoga, all 652 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: this stuff, the extra then kickboxing, wing tie. You gotta 653 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: find time for all that, and that balances you don't 654 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: understand exactly the divine balance. So for me, I knew 655 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: I was a high enough level wrestler that people will 656 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: have a hard time taking me down. If I needed 657 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: to get one, I'm probably gonna get one. So I 658 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: focus mostly on striking of my training, on striking, striking, 659 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: striking striking. If I can outstrike the striker, if I 660 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: can dictate what a fight go, I'm gonna win most 661 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: of the fight. Yeah. I like I like Jake Paul too, man. 662 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: I like him. I like him as I like him 663 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: as a person. I think he's a very smart business 664 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: man too. He's smartest. He's dumb and ship, but he's smartest. Hill. Yeah, 665 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: I think he's done. I don't think he's done. I 666 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: think he does dumb ship, but he does it. It's 667 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: part of the act, you know what I'm saying. It's 668 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: part of what it's part of the act to get 669 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: what he wants you know, when I say he's dumb, 670 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean like he's that person that don't care. Right, 671 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: he'll get hit and you think it's funny. And he 672 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: got he got to. Some guys just have dumpy power. 673 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: We call it, like you can just and I have that, 674 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: so I understand how dangerous it is. You don't matter 675 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: where you had in a fight. If you can get 676 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: there from right here, from right there, I can knock 677 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: you out and you can boom and you get on 678 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: the right spot, you down. He has that, and he 679 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: knows that, and all he's really done. He's learned how 680 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: to put himself in position to throw this punch. And 681 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: it was my number one punch and the number one 682 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: thing somebody could have done to get hit by it 683 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: is react and drop the hands. And he got me 684 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: with my own ship because I would always faint. I 685 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: was always love with changing. I would always make you 686 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: think I'm going to something different, and when you bite 687 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: on it, it's over. It's too late by then. So 688 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: with that punch and just his ability to kind of 689 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: not give a fuck, right, and he's training hard. He's 690 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: letting y'all think he's not, but he's training hard. You 691 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: don't have no kids, You don't have nothing that's stopping him. 692 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: You don't have any restrictions on wealth. He can bring 693 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: in the best trainers, the best nutrition, right, and this 694 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: whole thing is now formed around that, so he can 695 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: get better fashion than somebody. They don't have enough money 696 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: for the top trainers, right, they got three or four kids. 697 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: They got a four time job. They gotta keep up 698 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: at the same time, right, or they're of age where 699 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,479 Speaker 1: their bodies beat up, and now they don't. They can't 700 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: do massage, therapy, chiropractic work, yoga. So he that has 701 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: nothing stopping him. Plus everything is a bucket list. Everything 702 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: is a prank, right or a bet. And then he's 703 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: wired a little weird. That's just kind of a recipe 704 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: that we haven't seen before. Would you fight him again 705 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: for sure? What kind of bridge you're gonna need? I mean, 706 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: he knows what to pay me, you know. Yeah, we 707 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: we we we did all right, And I made no 708 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: money to nobody else. Nobody else made him money like 709 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: I did. No other fighter, not Anderson Silver, not we 710 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: made money on that fight. And the thing about it 711 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: is nobody had to build up in the prescott. I 712 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: called him out and I called him out. I really 713 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: should have been calling out the people that issued him 714 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: the culture. Right, you can't vote without it being in 715 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: being given right a bark and flower as many hours 716 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: and minutes as they want to. If it's nothing dead 717 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: on the ground, they're not gonna come down and get it. 718 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: So when you look at the rap culture and you 719 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: look at the people that are looking to get clicks 720 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: and they want this new niche of YouTuber, right, they're 721 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: all in the studio where they all Kiki Ki went right, 722 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: But they're not they're giving him the culture. So I 723 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: called him out. I said, while you got on the 724 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: five necklaces, you ain't nipsey hustle. Who in your neighborhood 725 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: dressed like that? You're like ud Niver I signed from Ferguson, 726 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: the number one murderous city in the country. Now where 727 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: are you from? Who's just like that? Who talked like that? Nobody? 728 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: I said, you're the rap you're listening to? Is why 729 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: what I live where people around me? My family currently 730 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: still right, So you're you look stupid, you goofy and 731 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: your dogs won't even tell you. And everybody got quiet. 732 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: But I was the first one that that was came 733 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: at him in a real, real way. So now when 734 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: you look at the build up, no build up is 735 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: gonna match that. What we really should do is fight 736 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: at M M A because a lot of people want 737 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: to see what happens if we fight, and that's not 738 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: going I doubt if Jake would do that. That definitely 739 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: would not be to his advantage. And Jake, like I said, 740 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: Jake is a pretty smart Jake is pretty smart about 741 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: giving himself a winning chance, and that that's not that 742 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: would not be wise. Let's go back to Ferguson man 743 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: um So Michael Brown shooting where he was murdered by 744 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: officer uncivilized m Daryl Darren Wilson. Now, where where were 745 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: you during that time? On the plane coming from Vegas? 746 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: I took my son August night. It was his birthday. 747 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: So I was flying on the plane. I was landing 748 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: it in St. Louis and then I was gonna take 749 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: a nap, and my phone crazy and like you okay, okay, okay, okay, 750 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: you don't like what's going on. And they showed me 751 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: what happened. They showed the riot stuff. Um but but 752 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: I found out about it. But I used to date 753 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: that's like my street in my neighborhood. So I should 754 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: date a girl in the building where he dropped that 755 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: right in front um that quick trip. I can walk 756 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: through from my house. I've been there many million times 757 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: where they rited at. So this is what Florence and 758 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: that's where the riots happened at in my street of Chamber, 759 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: So I'm touching it. So my barbershop, they didn't touch 760 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: my barbershop. People outside with machine guns and not this one. 761 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: They burned the building into the side of it. They 762 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: burned the build on the other side. There's a lot 763 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: of people outside of Ferguson that did that. So it 764 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: was a big, big uproar, and I had that. I 765 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: was in a training camp during that time. And the 766 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: funny part is I was filming straight out of Compton, 767 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: and we were filming the riot scenes and straight out 768 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: of Compton while the real riots was going on in 769 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: my city. Yeah, now you were. I've spoken about the ride, 770 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: the riots in the in the rest, the looting. You know, Um, 771 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: how much flag did you get from black people? None 772 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: about that, none, Because at the end of the day, 773 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: I still stood for what was right. I still still 774 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: for I grew up in Ferguson. We if somebody pulled 775 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: behind you, who got you? All Ferguson got you. It 776 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: was a known thing. It was always that way. Always 777 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: pulled over, my dogs, pulled over, beat up, throwing the 778 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: pantiwagons for no reason, all the time, racial profile, and 779 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: all the time, all your lights out, let me check 780 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: your car all the time. So we didn't recognize that 781 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: that was something that was not normal. We thought every 782 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: city had one of the fergus and people there. So 783 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: I didn't get no slacker. Yeah, I didn't get no 784 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: slack because what I was saying was like, if I'm 785 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: gonna turn some ship up, I ain't gonna turn my 786 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: own neighborhood, my own street. And it was not the 787 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: people in Ferguson. So the people that live in our city, 788 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: they're mad. People came from out of state to loot, 789 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: out of the city to loot, to vandalize. They didn't 790 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: have to live there. They have to watch that, you 791 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I just seen business owners 792 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: that I know, beauty supply stores, liquor stories that I've 793 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,959 Speaker 1: known for so many years since I was a kid, 794 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I've been working my whole life. 795 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: I was sweeping there in the barbershop. So when people 796 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: outside looking like, all my ship going, what do I 797 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: go from here? Right? They have nothing to do with that. 798 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 1: So I was I was kind of tired about that, 799 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: but I was more so tight that I put together 800 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: a really big play for the UFC to get involved 801 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: with it. I said, I'm from this city. The city 802 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: mean a lot to me, right, And I said, it's 803 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people like myself. I got a buddy 804 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: that's a trumpet player that's played in the Grammys at 805 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: eighteen years old, Beyonce, Mary J. Blige, jay Z. He's 806 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: everywhere a composer, right. I got a person that's a 807 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: um engineering bills missiles for for Boeing. Right. But they 808 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: all came from the city. Why don't we show case 809 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: the good that comes from the city. Why don't we 810 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: bring about a change. Why don't we go and try 811 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: to raise some funds to put this baby back together 812 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: and increase awareness on the police brutality and how do 813 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: we deal how do we all this problem? They didn't 814 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: want nothing to do with it. Man, did you did 815 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: you talk to what's his name, the big guy start? 816 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: He told me, He told me I had a fight coming. 817 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: I was fighting at my college China, and if you 818 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: go back and look in my fighting my college China, 819 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: you'll see I'm warning the St. Louis Had, which is 820 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: technicus supposed to get fined. We weren't supposed to wear 821 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: any other license stuff. But I snuck it through and 822 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: I got I had the St. Louis Had on that 823 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: because I'm like my CD hurting right now and I 824 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: want to I want to go out and represent for 825 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: them once again. A lat two men, two week fight. 826 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: I beat this dude skill skull in sixty seconds and 827 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: I made a strong statement and I dedicated that fight 828 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: to my city. So I talked to him about it. 829 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: He didn't want nothing to do it. He wanted me 830 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: to stay away from the city, can make it to 831 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: the fight. He wanted me to stay away from the 832 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: city so I can make it to the fight. That 833 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: was it. But but that, but that went on, The 834 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: ryots went on for an entire year. At any point 835 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: he could have stepped in and said, okay, we want 836 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: to do something to think. I think politically he's pretty 837 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: clear on where he stands. Um on that, you know 838 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: what I mean? People that were um for the not 839 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: for the riots. Like I don't want to say black 840 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: lives matter, because everybody like got an issue with what 841 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: they were really doing with the money and the entity. 842 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: I was saying that black lives matter the phrase because 843 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: they do, right we we don't. We didn't see that 844 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: from any other um nationality where they were just shot 845 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: up and just no patience and we didn't see that right, 846 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: but it was constantly shown what the people that it was. 847 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: It was easy to just pole right. So that's what 848 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: I was saying. For he, I don't I don't. I 849 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: can't really speak for him. I don't know what he did, 850 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: but I did definitely put that on the table. I 851 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: thought it had been a huge opportunity fighting in a 852 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: different country because when I went there, it was monks 853 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: coming from India. Um, Jake Cole was there on my dog, 854 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: Nate Parker came in. Everybody was there to show they 855 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: loved support in St. Louis and Ferguson. They came down there. Jaco, 856 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: he just pulled up the boxes like dog too. So 857 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 1: what the cop did, man was just that was terrible. 858 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: The trip part about it is the d o J investigated, Uh, 859 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: the whole entire Ferguson Police department and found uh massive corruption, 860 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: uh and descriminate. That's but from what I understand, not 861 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: a lot has changed. Uh Man, my dogs have been 862 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: I remember vividly my homie. They took him behind a 863 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: convenience store, put phone boots in his shirt and beat him. 864 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: Because you want bruised as much. They beat the dog 865 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: shout out of him with billy clubs. There's not there's 866 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: not nothing new. It's been our friend of Liz in 867 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: Houston right now. I was golfing with him yesterday. You 868 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: got out the car and slapping blow God and slapped 869 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: the kid. Yeah, ship, I watched What do you Do 870 00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: Help your dog out? Isn't Ferguson with black. I don't 871 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: know the exact dynamics, but there's a lot of really 872 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: nice parts of when you think of Ferguson. Ferguson, it's 873 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: not really like St. Louis. North side. St. Louis is 874 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: the trenches. That's the city city. Ferguson technically is in 875 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: the suburbs. But they just like any if somebody see 876 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: gang culture in California, right, but they don't live there. 877 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: Most people in St. Louis don't move. It's like a 878 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: nest of city. Right. So people are protecting these same 879 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: blocks for four damn years. You got ogs and sixty 880 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: years old still banging on the same corner that they 881 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: was representing fourteen. Right. So now when you got that mindset, 882 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: they look at California and they want to turn up 883 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: to match that level of violence or match that level. 884 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: So they get they want to feel like they got 885 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: that credit, right, but they go above and beyond. And 886 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: that's why St. Louis was a murder capital for so 887 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: many years in a row, right before the pandemic. So 888 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: now when you think about that, that that category got 889 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: people that are turning up, you've got law enforcements that 890 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: are they ain't getting no respect. When I see the 891 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: police behind me or anyone, I don't look forward, don't move, 892 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: don't breathe. That's what we do, right, Like they don't move, 893 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: don't breathe, put on job, slow everything right, and it 894 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: should be a situation where they're protecting and serving. Now 895 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: some police officers that get a bad rap, and maybe 896 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: Mike Brown got a bad rap from the from the kids. 897 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: I was like, now I ain't doing nothing, you know, 898 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: I dressed the same way, and this dude was probably 899 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't Darren whatever to do. They didn't. 900 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: This person probably was tired of getting um told get 901 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: the funk out of my face, no respect right. Probably 902 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: probably was not the popular dude growing up, probably had 903 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: all type of stuff, and he used his authority to 904 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: get off. That's all that happened. He got off on 905 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: the kid. He needed to go to sign walk. There's 906 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: nothing else he needed to do. Ultimately, I believe that 907 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: the reason why he shot him because he was black. 908 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: Because all of that those things can be true. That 909 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: he was being told to get the funk out of 910 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: my face. And I'm sure some white people have told 911 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: him to get the funk out of my face. You 912 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: Peo wanted to get off, said that he reached in 913 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 1: the call for his fire arm. That right there should 914 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: have been. You know, that's still be in the end 915 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: of that story because when we see the laws pull 916 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: up and we we're not gonna run, but we're not 917 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna be you know, going all in their car and 918 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: trying to talk to them and you know, leaning in 919 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: their ship. Man, I ain't gonna I'm not coming up 920 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: to that car. I wouldn't even imagine that. I wouldn't 921 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: even imagine he lies his ass off and and and 922 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: the judicial system is so fucked up. Until they accepted 923 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: that line, they prepared the whole city for two days. 924 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: A lot of times they killed. They don't even interview them. 925 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 1: They don't get no statements to anything. They get the 926 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: hang out and kick it and they go. They get 927 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: to be anonymous until you get the story. Right. Did 928 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: you see the autopsy? Yeah? Man, he had shots in 929 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: the back of his form, bro, And didn't he have 930 00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: a shots in the back of arm and nothing shot 931 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: it from the back? Man? Yeah. They they prepared the 932 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 1: city for two weeks because they knew when the verdict 933 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 1: came out. They knew everybody's gonna turn up. So I 934 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: got pictures on my phone right now, um humleys everywhere, 935 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: park everywhere, prepared, martial law, um, national card, everything you 936 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: can think of already. So we already knew what the 937 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: verdict was. If it wasn't, then why would they need that. 938 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna go crazy because justice was served. So they 939 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: was prepping, um, like some people I know that works 940 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: in like the government offices. They kind of already kind 941 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: of like guys that need to be prepared. This is 942 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 1: about to go down, and it went down? How much 943 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: have changed? Sense? Um? You know, to be honest, no 944 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: matter where I'm at, I try to just I saw 945 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: the South the way. Did that black attorney getting the 946 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: black DA getting I don't think so it was a 947 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: black d A at one time, wouldn't it. I don't. 948 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: I would have to check on that. I think it 949 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: was a black d A that that that that, Um, 950 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: we gotta looking at that, Willie. I think the d 951 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 1: A was well was he should still be in office? Well, 952 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: Ferguson is is big on police policing for profits, just 953 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: like all of the other cities around America is. And 954 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: that's the fundamental problem with police. Not a lot of 955 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: owners of homes. And they got quotas and taxes. They're 956 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: trying to like they're trying to get it through the tickets, 957 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: they're trying to get it through the South. He could 958 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: get a get a ticket. Yeah you no, he had 959 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: on his mind to kill h Yeah, he wanted to 960 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: kill him. It was hunting the season four hand to 961 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,959 Speaker 1: be Yeah, that's cold bloody man. And and and that's 962 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: a Commonwealth state, right, So I don't. I don't expect 963 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: for black people to get up fair um shaking that 964 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: justice system at all. When you come to those states 965 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 1: like that, it's tough. It's real that one was one 966 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 1: and everybody's always a clear case of guilty. Shout him 967 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: in the from in the back, bro, they had man 968 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: have to shoot him at all? I mean he could have. 969 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know the protocol, but I don't 970 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: know what some damn sweet fake to say that a 971 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: day before some ship, right, or or a few hours before. Yeah, 972 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: they man, come on, uh man, what do we do 973 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: to fix that? Fix this um racial uh disparity, this 974 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: this uncomfortable conversations being treated. I don't give a funk 975 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: about the conversation. I love to have the conversation all 976 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,479 Speaker 1: the time. But what do we do to to to 977 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 1: to make them stop working with us like this? Don'tly. 978 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: The way that I feel the change you is to 979 00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: have those uncomfortable conversations and have law enforcement chiefs and 980 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: have people of the community come together and work out 981 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: is really authority that's been hoarded over right, That's all 982 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: it is. But ain't that what we always been trying 983 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: to do. Come to an agreement and talk and all 984 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: that ship. I really haven't seen much much of that. 985 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: We all talked out man, this this conversation has happened 986 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: every every single day. Uh. I think that in order 987 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 1: to to get some justice, to get some some real 988 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,399 Speaker 1: to be treated like human beings, I think number one, 989 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: because we live in a capitalistic society. Number one, we 990 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: should uh practice group economics. That's number one, because we 991 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: we got to spend our money with each other, and 992 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: we have to we have to pool our resources. I mean, 993 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: we have to do exactly. The Jewish community already showed 994 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: us how to do it. They the blueprint is right there. 995 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: So that's one. And and because you know when once 996 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 1: you get one should get the money, you get the power. 997 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: You get to get the power, you got the influence, 998 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: and and and you influence the decisions and government. You know, 999 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: you influence these municipalities. You know, these cops all of 1000 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: a sudden they start acting right. The reason why they 1001 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: don't mess with certain people because they know what's gonna 1002 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,919 Speaker 1: come with that. You see, it's not that they it's 1003 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,919 Speaker 1: not that they have not been trained properly. It's that 1004 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: that they pick and choose when they want to use 1005 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: that training properly. That's that's the point. So I think 1006 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: the training cameras and how do you things that they 1007 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: really should train martial arts. If you got to sustain 1008 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 1: or you gotta initialize somebody without using your force, you 1009 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: should be able to do that. It used to be 1010 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: like that. It used to They used to would put 1011 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: in a little work. They would chase if you know, 1012 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 1: you start running the run, you run, you know it 1013 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: shoot you in the back. You know it used to 1014 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: be when even they did shoot you in the back, 1015 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: that was automatically. Uh you know you're fired. You know 1016 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: that's an automatic lawsuit. Now you shot him in the back. Uh, well, 1017 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: I feel for my life. Yeah, you know. So the 1018 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 1: other point that I was gonna make this is a tooth. 1019 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: I think this is a twofold remedy. The other one, 1020 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: the other side is uh something that I can't even mention. 1021 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: And I think that we've done everything else, and you 1022 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: got to read between the lines on the second one, 1023 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: I already know you. Well, if you don't do that, 1024 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't I can't do man. Get us 1025 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: canceled I think I get us canceled up in this. 1026 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,919 Speaker 1: Let's talk about your acting career. Man, you're doing good, 1027 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: man good. You're good at that. Man, You're really good 1028 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: at that. Man. You know, like, uh, what what's coming 1029 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: up next? For? You know? I just I just um, 1030 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: I just did I like, hey, switch that sub. I 1031 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: support that. But I know what you're saying. Yeah, I 1032 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,240 Speaker 1: don't know what he's saying. But tell everybody the movies 1033 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,760 Speaker 1: that you've you've been in the roads that you played. 1034 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: I played t Bone and straight up straight out of 1035 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: content for the Lynch Mob. I did Sons of Anarchy, 1036 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: Asians of Shield, Um Olympics is Falling, Kickboxer, I did UMST. Recently, 1037 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: I did Cobra Co. I played a Sense That's the 1038 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: number one show on Netflix. I did uh one of 1039 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 1: my favorite ones. I did cut Through CD that the 1040 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: resid did so It's me my homie, um to Meet 1041 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: your Ship. We played Tupac in the documentary Terrence Howard 1042 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes Um. That movie was number one on Netflix 1043 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: as well. But that was like a hurricane Katrainer store work, 1044 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: and that was hard. That was hard. But I've been 1045 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: a lot of films. But but the but the but 1046 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: the money isn't fighting And I feel like guy, guy 1047 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: showed me the way I was gonna walk away, and uh, 1048 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: I ain't hit that yet. So I'm building up to 1049 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 1: to finish the last chapter, do it the way I 1050 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 1: was supposed to do, and then everything else goes off 1051 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: of that. People put you in the movies. If it's 1052 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: this guy versus you, they're gonna use you. If it's 1053 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: pretty even you, you're gonna you're gonna get a Will 1054 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 1: Smith role here pretty soon. No, but I just want 1055 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 1: you to be prepared when he walked up there and 1056 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: slap the ship out of you. I'm a faidback. I'm 1057 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: letting hit the air. I'm gonna let Hi hit there. 1058 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: I support him slapping um Chris Rock. I know you do. Yeah, 1059 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: why because he's tired of people? Man, Everybody got something 1060 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: to say people too. He all right, I don't. I 1061 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: can't speak on what's going on this household. But it 1062 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: seemed like, you know, everybody Internet got something to say 1063 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: about him, got something to say about the situation ship 1064 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: where all these different things they've been kind of coming 1065 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: at him. So I think he was just fed up. Man, 1066 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: that's the man's house. No, I don't, I don't have no, 1067 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't have no problem with it? What's going on 1068 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 1: in his house? But I'm saying the internet, like I 1069 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: feel like, to be honest, I feel like he actually 1070 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 1: hasn't figured out do what you wanna do because no 1071 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: matter what people saying, you don't have to feed them, 1072 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: you have to live with them. No matter what religion 1073 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: we worshiped, we're violating it anyway, are we not? So 1074 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: we're living okay? Well, most people are ninety people religion? 1075 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: What religion? Not here? I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm stomped. 1076 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: We'll come back to it. Just like, but just think 1077 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: about that when you think about that pressure, right you 1078 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,720 Speaker 1: are we always like I had to reuse Kanye West, 1079 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 1: but he said a phrase that he said, the worst 1080 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: thing that ideal with in school is what what's the 1081 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: worst thing about school for you? We're using school was 1082 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: the worst thing about it? Should for me? Going when 1083 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 1: you when you went there? The test? Right? The worst 1084 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: thing for most people the worst thing of the anxiety 1085 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: you get is when you get that test. That's where 1086 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,439 Speaker 1: you get the grade at right, So why are we 1087 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: bringing that into our lives where we're letting people test us, 1088 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: where we're letting people are you should be dating this 1089 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 1: girl because you make this amount of money, or you 1090 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 1: should be doing that. Keeping up with the Jones is 1091 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 1: pretty much right, he said. I don't. I don't have 1092 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: to be what you want me to be. I don't. 1093 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 1: I don't go out there and try to pass your test. 1094 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: I just am. This is what I do. I just 1095 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: said it. And I feel like, if you're already doing 1096 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: in any way, just be who you are, if the 1097 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: person you with and I got this understanding, and that's 1098 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: the way I live in. Why does it matter what 1099 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: other people think? Like society is this today is okay, 1100 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 1: tomorrow's cancel, right or wrong? Right? It's the worst stock 1101 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,280 Speaker 1: you can invest into, So why would I keep investing 1102 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: into the stock society tells us date off. I'm gonna 1103 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: date this girl because she gotta fat ask. She's cute, 1104 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: that dada. I don't know what kind of connection I 1105 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,919 Speaker 1: got with her. I don't know none of that. All 1106 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: I know is my eyes want and I want to 1107 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: date her, right, the same people that set you up 1108 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: to date that way. I worked for TMZ. I have 1109 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: my own show, you know what I mean, emails I got, 1110 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? My homies. I had to like, 1111 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: we didn't get that email for my dog that's in 1112 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: this sport or that sport, or we need to switch 1113 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 1: this up a little bit. Right. So now, when you 1114 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: think about it, the same people that sent you up 1115 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: to date that way are the people that's waiting on 1116 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: you to fail the most the most. Watch Kardashian or divorce. 1117 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about the goody two shoe stuff. Everybody want 1118 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: to talk about this person. Yes, so that's the same setup. 1119 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: So why are we investing that. Do what you feel 1120 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: comfortable with, do what you wanna do, live your life, 1121 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: make the people around you happy, and say true to 1122 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 1: what you are. And that's what I That's what I 1123 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: feel like we all should do. So I feel like 1124 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: Will it's kind of doing that, but I feel like 1125 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 1: he's a little scared to kind of just be this 1126 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: is what I am. Right, So now you gotta take 1127 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of a little little heckling from here 1128 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 1: and there. I think you have time to slap the 1129 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 1: ship out of Chris Rock. Bro, Chris Rock, are they cool? 1130 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, were they cool with each other? 1131 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: With dropping at the bars? I mean, it's it's it's 1132 00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 1: currently Bro. You don't think I mean, I wouldn't slapped 1133 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: them up there on stage like that. I don't know 1134 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,959 Speaker 1: that I wouldn't. I wouldn't have went up on that. Well, 1135 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 1: you don't know. I do know what that's like trying 1136 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 1: to tell Will Smith how to feel You don't know that. 1137 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: That's like somebody trying to tell you how to feel. Well, 1138 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: I know I'm smarting than that. Its facial special showed 1139 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: me that it was a little bit more behind. I'm 1140 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, bro, I don't know if I 1141 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: would have done it or not. I don't know. I 1142 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: would hope I wouldn't have done it. I would have 1143 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: hope I had restraint and went to the bad because 1144 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: because I know, because I know the because or something 1145 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: like that. I would hope that I would have had 1146 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 1: that restraint. But I'm not sure if I would have 1147 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 1: had it, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I think 1148 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: I think we should slap all disrespect. Maybe not in 1149 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: that setting, again, I think we should slap out all 1150 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 1: disrespect in general. I think we should. Yeah, I mean, 1151 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: just think about who we do we get into it. 1152 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: Somebody step on your shoes, but you're gonna let somebody 1153 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 1: disrespect your woman you're not gonna say nothing. People didn't 1154 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 1: get shot over that. That's true. Okay, I'm I'm gonna 1155 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: stay get back, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't let either slide. 1156 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: You know what. Let me say when I was you're 1157 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: not gonna disrespect my woman. But as far as like 1158 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 1: stepping on my shoe when I was younger, I would 1159 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 1: take supreme sense to something like that. Somebody stepped on 1160 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 1: my shoe and just excuse me. See things like man, 1161 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: you say excuse me, you know, like say excuse me 1162 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: because you know that's what that's what happened with me. 1163 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: And be a build and say excuse me. You know 1164 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: when he bumped the first time, my man him, he 1165 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: didn't say excuse me, bumped me and then say excuse me, 1166 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 1: and that's what set me off. Like man just said 1167 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: excuse me. Just be a gentleman of body, you know, 1168 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: because I bumped the people. Anytime you're in a crowded space, especially, 1169 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna bump into people whatever, you might 1170 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: step on somebody incidentally, you know what I'm saying. Accidentally 1171 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: and you just say, hey, man, my fault, my bad. 1172 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: They ain't got they don't make you look weak. In fact, 1173 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: I feel like it makes you look stronger. You know, 1174 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: a man, I bad and keep it moving to be 1175 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,439 Speaker 1: a gentleman abody. But somebody just do it and didn't 1176 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: act like you know, like you're nothing, like you wasn't 1177 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: even there. Don't don't apologize, especially when you're willing to 1178 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: do it yourself. That that get under my skin. Man, 1179 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm having an asked with tech man. Yeah, Asma, do 1180 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: your thing. He didn't do y'all funny like that. His 1181 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 1: birthday is a few days away. Man, his birthday is 1182 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 1: eight days after mine. That's my guy. He's a scarpio. 1183 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: How many decades I've been going at this? Three decades? 1184 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: Three decades? I tell him, Man, I'm gonna die, he said. 1185 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: I didn't say kick. I do not curse. I'm a Christian. 1186 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm done. Man, Do you do you? Do 1187 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: you have any more um uh things that you want 1188 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: to address? Because I'm sick of will. You're sick of 1189 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: will name will? Ain't that I can do about that? Man, 1190 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 1: I can't breathe. You know, we were talking about He's glad. 1191 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 1: I got as with Tech. I didn't sound mad. I said, Asthma, 1192 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 1: do your thing, well that sounds happy to me. I'm 1193 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: just saying, you know, like asthma, do you thing? Man? 1194 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: You know they ain't hating nothing like that. That sounds like, 1195 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: hey man, what's next show? You know? Man? For me, 1196 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: I got I got a lot of stuff coming up. 1197 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: I got a TV show coming up, My god, TV show. 1198 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm on TV show IM working on right now. What 1199 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: with Uh it's a comedy. It is a comedy comedy. 1200 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: I got you way funny and him got a comedy show. 1201 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: So I'm doing that next fighting obviously, and then I 1202 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: got some other business stuff I'm doing as well. But 1203 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 1: if I would share some light on anything, especially being 1204 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: in here and sat not St. Louis Houston. Um, we 1205 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 1: can't go off the show without talking about what happened 1206 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 1: the other day. I don't know when the show gonna aaron, 1207 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 1: when it's gonna come out, but we lost somebody in 1208 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 1: the in the community um of music, and just yet 1209 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 1: again that sad thing. And I just want to send 1210 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 1: condoless to his family, to take off family, to anybody 1211 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: he left behind. I don't know if he has kids, 1212 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 1: but I just know in general, UM, we gotta find 1213 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: a way to stop this because culture is music and 1214 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: these artists can't go around and do their job. But 1215 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: I'll feeling, man, Yeah, that Shu really really cut man, 1216 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: the most dangerous career and really cut man. Uh, he 1217 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: was dope, can I be read? He was dope. I 1218 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 1: mean my son was talking about that. He was slept 1219 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 1: on for a long time, for a long as time. 1220 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: But man, the boy was and he wasn't even not 1221 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 1: in no ship though, you know what I mean, like 1222 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: no ship man, God damn. Yeah. But we got all 1223 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: these eye openers over and over again. It's like what 1224 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: do we do? Like you know what I mean, these 1225 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 1: artists they're going out here and they're entertaining and they're 1226 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 1: bringing so much life to music. Everybody, white, black, green, 1227 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 1: purple orange. They selling all these shows. But how do 1228 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: we protect them? We we we we have to reinstall 1229 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 1: instructions to the game. Oh Jeeves, gotta let these young 1230 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: kids know that. I have to let me installed the instructions. Man, 1231 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 1: you know right now, the instructions was when we went 1232 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 1: to go do anything in the city, we did what 1233 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: we had to do, and we got the fun back 1234 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: to our rooms. We got back on base. If we 1235 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: we went to the club, we all went to the 1236 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 1: club together and we knew, we knew coming in there, 1237 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 1: we knew leaving here that that was their town. Yeah, 1238 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: and whatever the fun the head going on in they town, 1239 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: that's what went on in they town. We're stayed in 1240 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: our lane. We're stayed in our lane. Bro see jack 1241 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: boys right now glorified and then the pandemic boys. Man, 1242 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: But but it's making the it's making it. It's like this, 1243 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 1: You've got people that are glorifying that, especially when the pandemic. 1244 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 1: It's nothing to be mass. Your identity is covered anyway 1245 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: because everybody got a mask on, right, So you got that, 1246 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: and then you got the culture. Now that's really flashy. 1247 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 1: So much jury, so much money and face, so much this, 1248 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 1: so much that so now people are glorifying in their 1249 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: music robbing people, right, So the violence is already gonna 1250 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: jump to the roof. And you got people if I 1251 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 1: know he in here and he got this on me, 1252 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: or now we get into an altercation, it becomes pride. 1253 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 1: Pride's been taking us off for so many years, but 1254 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,919 Speaker 1: it's misplaced. Pride seems to be proud about the wrong ship, 1255 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, like that you should be proud about being 1256 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 1: able to take care of your family, you know, being 1257 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: there for your children, to see your kids raised by 1258 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: you and not another man. You know, you should be 1259 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 1: proud that that. You know, you you were able to 1260 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 1: buy your parents a house after they've taken care of 1261 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: you for your whole life, you know, to be able 1262 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 1: to retire your grandmother. You know, that's just that's the 1263 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,959 Speaker 1: ship you should be proud of. You should be proud 1264 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: that you escape the traps that they got out here 1265 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 1: for you. They got these traps everywhere for us. You 1266 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: should be proud that you were able to escape and 1267 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: you didn't let them send you to the penitentiary. May 1268 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 1: maybe you made a mistake or whatever, and then you know, 1269 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: the lawyers got you out of a gym. You said, okay, 1270 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 1: I learned my list nobody. That's the type of ship 1271 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: you should be proud of. Be proud that you sent kids, 1272 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: you sent your kids to college and they got degrees 1273 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,919 Speaker 1: or you know, they're self sufficient, independent adults. Be proud 1274 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,439 Speaker 1: the ship like that. We're proud of the wrong type 1275 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 1: of ship. You're proud of ship that you don't own, 1276 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 1: and ship that you don't control. You know, that's the 1277 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: ship that we're proud of and the ship makes absolutely 1278 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 1: no sense. And it all stems from a lack of 1279 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: self esteem. You got these big dudes out here running 1280 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 1: around at with these guns, and everybody got a gun, 1281 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 1: and they think the gun gives them the power. When 1282 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: if the gun gave you that much power, why is 1283 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: it that somebody can take the gun away from you. Yeah. 1284 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: So these guys, no matter how big they all, no 1285 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 1: matter how dangerous they say they are, once they go 1286 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: out there and do something dummy, uh, when people come 1287 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 1: and get them and they just go freely. But but 1288 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 1: before the people come, they gorill us. They kill us, 1289 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: they carrill us. Nobody can stop them. They uncontrolled, the 1290 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: uncontrolled them. The moment them people come in, they acquiesque. 1291 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 1: They fall back, you know, they fall back, and they 1292 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 1: take take whatever those people give them, fifty years, sevnty years, 1293 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 1: eighty years, a hundred and ninety years, whatever, and they 1294 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 1: go do that time whether they like it or not. 1295 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 1: They bow the funk down. But why do you why 1296 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 1: you gotta go through all of that when you see 1297 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: people before you going through it already and already losing 1298 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 1: their lives, already putting their mama's on the front row, 1299 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 1: already abandoned, their abandoning their children, already spending all of 1300 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 1: their days and something in a damn cage with grown ass. 1301 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: Man's going men going to take showers? Uh, dickor ass? 1302 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 1: You know? Uh standing Dicta asked with men in a shower, 1303 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: bro Like, why would you put yourself in that position? 1304 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 1: When you see it's happening to everybody else? Why would 1305 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: you go through all of that? It makes absolutely no sense. 1306 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 1: Doesn't get our brothers the way to cost before they do? 1307 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: You know what they gotta do. You gotta get You 1308 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: gotta do what I learned to do. Love my self, 1309 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 1: because when you love yourself, you ain't gonna put yourself 1310 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: in certain predicaments. You're gonna change the way you eat. 1311 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: When you love yourself, it's hard. You it ain't just 1312 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 1: gonna be the best. You know, it's not gonna just 1313 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 1: be about who you decide you're gonna hang around. It's 1314 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 1: gonna be you're gonna take care of your body and 1315 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 1: your your your your mind and your spirit in every sense. 1316 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 1: And you you just it's certain kind of energy. You're 1317 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 1: not gonna even put yourself around. Once you learn uh 1318 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 1: to love yourself you say, you know what them foods 1319 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: over that. They shoot at that club every damn week. 1320 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: It's a damn shooting over that. I think I'm not 1321 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: gonna go over there because they shoot over there and 1322 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: the people that go there seem like they don't like living. 1323 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: I like living right, you know, dude, this ship feel good. 1324 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: This is motherfucker this oxygen. This ship feels good to 1325 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 1: make if you've heard about what happened with us when 1326 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 1: we when he was when we was supposed to say, um, 1327 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 1: play ball with the Astros, we were getting ready to 1328 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 1: do our world serious thing or whatever, and Willie went 1329 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: into his speech, but he gave a similar speech like 1330 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 1: that at Many may part. And that's why we didn't 1331 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 1: get a chance to say playball because they cut his 1332 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:33,840 Speaker 1: mic off. Ladies and gentlemenmen's it's been great. It's been 1333 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 1: great conversating with you guys. It's been great having Tiring. 1334 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Appreciate your mom. Look, it's been great having Tiring on 1335 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: the show. Thank you for coming on the show. And 1336 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. I appreciate and um yeah I 1337 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 1: got some game too at that ship. Man. I'm just 1338 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 1: here that the antagonize him to bring it out, but 1339 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 1: he's dope with this ship. But thank you for coming out, Bro, 1340 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. For sure, for sure, we 1341 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 1: gotta do it again. This episode was produced by A 1342 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,840 Speaker 1: King and brought to you by The Black Effect Podcast 1343 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: Network and I Heart Radio