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Speaker 1: Yeah, hello again everybody, and welcome to Big Blue Kickoff

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Speaker 1: Live here, brought to you by Corps Light as always

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Speaker 1: on Giants dot Com. I am Ross Salzburg. I misspoke yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I said I was gonna be here Thursday. But it's

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Speaker 1: Wednesday and I'm here. And I'm also here with my

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Speaker 1: partner from yesterday, Paul Detino at the controls, the very

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Speaker 1: lovely um Mackenzie Ingram, and you the fans out there,

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Speaker 1: and PAULI Before before we get into anything, why don't we,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you go over the injury report today. Well,

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Speaker 1: the big news is that the Giants had two guys

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Speaker 1: practice in full Evan Ingram and say Kwan Barkling. Now,

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Speaker 1: while the coach Pat Schermer would not fully commit because

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Speaker 1: remember he doesn't have to commit until Friday, who's in

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Speaker 1: and who's out? Obviously, the fact that those two guys

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Speaker 1: got through full practices today is a huge step in

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Speaker 1: the right direction. And unless they should suffer some type

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Speaker 1: of setback in the next couple of days or perhaps

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Speaker 1: wake up Sword tomorrow with issues, I can't see any

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Speaker 1: way that either one of those guys is not playing

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Speaker 1: in the game against the Cardinals. Yeah, I would agree

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Speaker 1: what we were kind of thinking about this talking about

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Speaker 1: it yesterday. All signs point to good things ahead. And listen,

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Speaker 1: I would certainly also like to have Throwing Shepherd and

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Speaker 1: Wayne Gallman in there as well. But concussions and concussion protocol, Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's a different situation. And you know, listen, I understand

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Speaker 1: everybody wants to know, especially well, not especially Sheep, but

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Speaker 1: both guys. But the coach can't answer. It's concussion protocol.

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Speaker 1: So until they're cleared from concussion protocol, it's a moot point.

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Speaker 1: How about anybody else? Yeah, the concussion protocol. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: the devil has bitten Corey Valentine, I'll be honest with you, Ross,

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Speaker 1: This one really surprises me because I didn't think there

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots on Thursday. So I'm not sure how

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Speaker 1: it happened, and nobody asked coach about how it happened,

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Speaker 1: just that he was out today because of a concussion. Now,

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Speaker 1: as you remember yesterday during the program, I suggest that

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Speaker 1: he might be a great guy to use as a

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Speaker 1: has sprinters speed. But now that may not be available

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Speaker 1: to you. Well, I would suggest maybe I shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 1: But um, even if he is okay, which if he's

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Speaker 1: in concussion protocol now like I can't see him playing

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Speaker 1: well you know, but if he's cleared, I still don't

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Speaker 1: think he would be the guy to be the shadow

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Speaker 1: if you will okay limited Shephard Goldman and Pierre all

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Speaker 1: three of those guys are still in the protocol I

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Speaker 1: as I understand it, because they were wearing the yellow pennies,

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Speaker 1: a cody to coach. So obviously they're moving along, but

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Speaker 1: they're not cleared yet. But the Balantine one was was

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Speaker 1: certainly a surprise. Yeah, you know, we were talking a

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Speaker 1: and this certainly has been improvement. And we also touched

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Speaker 1: on it with with Kyler Murray. But if they're listening

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Speaker 1: to the coach today, not that it was a surprise,

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Speaker 1: but that's a pretty good test because you know, I

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Speaker 1: was just tuck with Marcus Golden, uh he and Marcus

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Speaker 1: described it this way. He's not just fast, he's quick,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's he doesn't just have sprint to speed.

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Speaker 1: He's quick. He he's like a mosquito. He's like a

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Speaker 1: nat yeah, or fly at a picnic. He's he's short,

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Speaker 1: he's small, he's compact, and he really gets around and

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, that's why the look. He's been sacked twenty

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Speaker 1: clear us. It's not like you can't get to him.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he's been sacked twenty one times tells

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Speaker 1: you the line has had its issues. He does tend

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Speaker 1: run into some sacks. He can be had. The Seattle

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Speaker 1: so it can be done. You can get to him.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, when you get to him, there

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Speaker 1: are two things about Kyler Murray. A little secret for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna give you some scouting stuff here

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Speaker 1: at us. You have to whisper this a wee can

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Speaker 1: no no, no no, if you want, I can't whisper. Okay,

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Speaker 1: speak up, will will? People on the subway here this

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Speaker 1: when they're playing the podcast. Okay. Two secrets about Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: Number one He is one of those quarterbacks who does

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Speaker 1: want to make him roll to his left. Now, that's

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Speaker 1: the reasons why they's so incredibly difficult to defend. Kyler

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Speaker 1: gonna tuck it down and run with him. You mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you know with the sacks, H, I wonder what do

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Speaker 1: part of it. I don't have the number breakdown, um,

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Speaker 1: just have to be you know, for example of guys

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Speaker 1: but Ben Roethlisberger can exxpend plays just because he's big

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Speaker 1: a speed team Russ. They like to get people in space.

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Speaker 1: always run at least three wide receivers in their formation.

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Speaker 1: So one of the ways that you can neutralize that

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Speaker 1: coming off the line of scrimmage so that they can't

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Speaker 1: which has been getting better every week, has an opportunity

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Speaker 1: got online three is it? Doug in Rochester? Doug? How

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Speaker 1: are we doing today? Hey? Let's today? How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I got a little cold, as you guys two days

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Speaker 1: the rest of point out something that you made a

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see the giants um, especially young guys

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Speaker 1: from both for you. On this first question, how are

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Speaker 1: that pay? Does that play Thatt safety? And bot does

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Speaker 1: see Tyler? They were getting better? Well, listen, when I

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Speaker 1: said getting better, I think I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: I said, this season does not get measured on what

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Speaker 1: should not be measured on wins and losses. And obviously

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Speaker 1: players don't want to hear that, you know, and coaches

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear that. But more importantly, progress from

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Speaker 1: This may also be a good time to reject that.

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Speaker 1: Sam Beale had the first team practice today. Remember he

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Speaker 1: He is fully over his hamstring, and so you know

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Speaker 1: he's now an option as the Giants move forward. You

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Speaker 1: actually shadow him and Valentine is injured? Do they have

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Speaker 1: other opportunities or other people they might be able to

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Speaker 1: shotow because with the linebackers they have, even though David

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Speaker 1: may have played well, does he have the kind of

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Speaker 1: speed that can match up with the David Johnson? I

427
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Speaker 1: was curious what your assessment might be with that. Here's

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Speaker 1: the problem. Okay, you're right. David Johnson is a dual

429
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Speaker 1: threat and a much bigger threat out of the backfield

430
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Speaker 1: than he is one of the ball. Three years ago,

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Speaker 1: before his knee injury, he when he blew out his

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Speaker 1: A c L he was a two thousand yards back

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Speaker 1: from scrimmage. Now, to put down the the perspective, that's

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Speaker 1: what Charles, not Charles, That's what say Kwan Barkley did

435
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Speaker 1: last year. Two thousand yards from scrimmage. That's a big,

436
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Speaker 1: big deal. At that point in time, I think David

437
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: Johnson was at the top of the list, or in

438
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Speaker 1: the top three players of all your fantasy football freaks

439
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 1: out there. You absolutely love this guy. Then he then

440
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Speaker 1: he blows out his knee and everybody seems to forget

441
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: about him. You can't forget about him. He is a huge,

442
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: huge weapon. Kyler Murray, if there's one thing about him

443
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Speaker 1: that he could do, he could check it down to Johnson.

444
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: Johnson's got thirty catches this year, next to Fitzgerald, the

445
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: most catches on this Cardinal squad. So Scott is absolutely right,

446
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: You've got to deal with him in the passing game.

447
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: And that's another reason why they want to spread you

448
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Speaker 1: out from sideline to sideline, because now if they dump

449
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Speaker 1: it down to Johnson and you're spread out, he's got

450
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Speaker 1: room to work with for yards after the catch. It's

451
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Speaker 1: elementary Russ. The problem is, Okay, you're not going to

452
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Speaker 1: be able to spy both Murray and Johnson. If you're

453
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Speaker 1: gonna put Johnson in a man man coverage situation, Okay,

454
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Speaker 1: especially with no Balantine, you're asking for trouble. Balantine is

455
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Speaker 1: the fastest Giants defensive back on the roster. Maybe DeAndre

456
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: Baker can rival him, but Valentine are pretty sure is

457
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Speaker 1: the fastest guy. I wanted to put him on Murray,

458
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Speaker 1: but that may be out of the picture. Now the

459
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Speaker 1: Giants don't have anybody else who is nearly as fast

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Speaker 1: as Kyler Murray, which may rule out the spy option RUSS,

461
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: because if you don't have a guy who can catch

462
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Speaker 1: Murray or at least keep up with him, the spy

463
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: option becomes very dangerous because you're virtually wasting a guy

464
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Speaker 1: because if he can't catch Murray, his threat as a

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Speaker 1: spy is removed and you've taken a guy out of

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Speaker 1: your defense. So chances are without Balentine, they probably won't

467
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Speaker 1: spy him. What the Giants may do is go to

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Speaker 1: our heavy dime package, okay, and try to put maybe

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas in that role potentially, or put Michael Thomas

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Speaker 1: on David Johnson if he winds up going outside out

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Speaker 1: of an empty backfield set. Those are the kinds of

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Speaker 1: things you have to think about. Two zero, one four

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Speaker 1: four more details. Let's now go through. Is it Terry

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Speaker 1: or Terray in Philadelphia? Teray, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: How are you guys doing today? Toteray? All right? Ray?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Hey? How you guys doing? Good to talk

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Speaker 1: to you guys. Always been a pleasure, been a long

483
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Speaker 1: time fan of you guys. Well, thank you for calling,

484
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Speaker 1: no problem. I just wanted to talk to you guys

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Speaker 1: about the linebacker position. I heard you guys mentioned about

486
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Speaker 1: some guys um a couple of I had in mind.

487
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's still available. What about Brandon Marshall,

488
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: he's out there. The word on Marshall coming out of Oakland,

489
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Speaker 1: Mike Mayock the GM about a week after they released him.

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Speaker 1: May I came out and did tell the Oakland media. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He confessed, if you will, as to why they released him.

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Speaker 1: He said that Marshall's knee had not come along as

493
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Speaker 1: quickly as they needed him to, and they ran out

494
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 1: of time waiting for his need to respond so that

495
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: he could get back to being as effective as they wanted.

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Speaker 1: Therefore they released him. To this point, I have not

497
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: heard him take any other visits Russ. You know what day. Uh,

498
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Speaker 1: that's a good question, but I laugh, I'm not laughing

499
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: at your question. But you know, a lot of times

500
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: people always say, well, what about this person who's out there?

501
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: What about that person who's out there, whether it's an

502
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, whether it's the water boy, whatever. Sometimes there's

503
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Speaker 1: a reason that they just remain out there and nobody's

504
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: picking him up. You know what. People just said, Well,

505
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Speaker 1: I mean it's a good well, there's a reason nobody

506
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: else has picked him up. And as Paul just you know,

507
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: said about Brandon Marshall, you know, Mayo said, you needn't

508
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: get right where it is. Well, if they need didn't

509
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: get right where it is for them, you nobody else

510
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Speaker 1: wants that. I mean, because if you're gonna pick him up,

511
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Speaker 1: you're picking him up for now. Yeah. I understand that,

512
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 1: but we need linebackers for now. Also, Um, I understand that,

513
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: but everybody. I mean, like the tweet I just heard

514
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: you guys read and tweet somebody from off the street.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a veteran. I mean, I'm quite sure

516
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Speaker 1: he could come in. I think he'll do a better

517
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Speaker 1: job than Stupar. What Stupard did. I mean, Stupark barely

518
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Speaker 1: could make a tackle. But I think he would come

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Speaker 1: in and provide at least some leadership. Uh far as

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Speaker 1: the locker room, I mean, I'm not I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy that. You know that. They don't

522
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Speaker 1: they've got If you you're not bringing him in for leadership,

523
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Speaker 1: they've got their leadership in the production production that I

524
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Speaker 1: would disagree with you today. I mean again, but Paul

525
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: just gave you a reason. Paul just said his knee

526
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Speaker 1: didn't respond, if his need didn't respond. For Oakland, we

527
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: don't need him coming here to not for the need

528
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Speaker 1: not to respond for the giants, then you're gonna scrap

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Speaker 1: that follow just a suggestion about you know, just for

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Speaker 1: a lineback, because I mean, I know it's not too

531
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Speaker 1: many other linebackers out there. That's good right now, I

532
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Speaker 1: mean we're going to do keep bringing back Nate to

533
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Speaker 1: far Well, let me put this right Tooray. I asked

534
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Speaker 1: a scout independent of this organization two weeks ago, what

535
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Speaker 1: does it look like out there at the at the

536
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Speaker 1: linebacker spot and and he laughed and he said, it

537
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: is very very thin. There's just nothing. There's nothing out

538
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Speaker 1: there on the street. And to be honest, the last

539
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: thing in the world you need to do is bring

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Speaker 1: damage goods onto your roster that just don't have a

541
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: ton of salary cap money as it is anyway. And

542
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 1: if they bring it a guy who's got, you know,

543
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: some some medical issues, well now you're on the risk

544
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Speaker 1: of him not being able to help you, and then

545
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: you waste your money, you know, Toteray. You know, I

546
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you were listening yesterday, because we were

547
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: talking about and Paul brought up a very good point.

548
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: Uh Mayo day Mayo. Uh you know, everybody was went well,

549
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, and and Paul and I were guilty of

550
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: it as well when they first signed him. Yeah, you know,

551
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: special team. You know, I don't expect much at linebacker. Well,

552
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: the reason he was a special team more than a

553
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: linebacker with the Panthers. As Paul brought up yesterday, who

554
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: was he playing behind? He was playing keekly. So so

555
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: a guy gets labeled for being, you know, like a backup. Well,

556
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: look when he was playing behind. Now he's come here

557
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: and he's played very, very well, He's played very you know,

558
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: so you just gotta be careful. I get where you're going. Uh,

559
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: but I don't need somebody else. If a guy couldn't

560
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: cut it when I they cut it, if he wasn't

561
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: medically fine for somebody else, I don't need him to

562
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: be not phi medically for the Giants. Okay, what more question, guys,

563
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: I know you guys got to go. I'm hearing that

564
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: Bill is back practicing. Yes, Paul just brought up it

565
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: was practicing full time today. Okay. I wish he was

566
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: up to speak because maybe he could be the spy

567
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: for Colin Murray. Is he fast? Well, he got two

568
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Speaker 1: more weeks yea. The exemption list, So that's not that's

569
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: not an answer. That's point I don't tell you today.

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00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate you trying to come up with answers. Most

571
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: people just want to know. Here's here. Let me let

572
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: me be serious for a second. I mean this, Sometimes

573
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: I like to be a little entertaining, but I'm trying

574
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: to be serious here. Most most people want to just

575
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: complain and say, well, why don't we do this or

576
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: why don't we have that? And and they just want

577
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: to moan about it and complain about it, and they

578
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: want to say this guy can't play, this guy can't

579
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Speaker 1: do this. You've tried to at least think of options.

580
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: And I much prefer a caller who says, look, can

581
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Speaker 1: we do this, or can we do that? Or is

582
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: a B or C a possibility? I appreciate it. So

583
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: I hope we didn't. We didn't get you feeling bad

584
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: that we knocked down your options, you know, because I

585
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I like when people try to get

586
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Speaker 1: creative to give us options. But unfortunately, most of the

587
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: time the options, because of things that we know inside

588
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: that you may not know on the outside, turn out

589
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Speaker 1: to not be possible. Hey toay, I'm just sitting here,

590
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Speaker 1: sitting with you here for an hour when I'm off

591
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Speaker 1: from one thirty to two thirty. I gotta listen to

592
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Speaker 1: his options. Seven. You follow what I'm saying. I mean,

593
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Speaker 1: that's why your head kind of the wheels are always

594
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Speaker 1: turning up here, my friends. Thanks for the call to

595
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Speaker 1: call it anybody, Thank you, Thank you, buddy fun guy.

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Speaker 1: Two one, nine, nine, four or five one three is

597
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Speaker 1: the uh is the number. But you know what you

598
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: bring out a good, good point, Paul. He's trying to

599
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Speaker 1: come up with options, not saying it's fair to complete,

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Speaker 1: because that's the deal. I mean, well, he's asking is

601
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Speaker 1: this possible? I like those calls, But you know, I

602
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: don't need somebody who is a question healthy for somebody else.

603
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: If his health was a question for somebody else, I

604
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: don't need that question again being uh not being healthy

605
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Speaker 1: for the New York Football Giants. Let's go to West

606
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Speaker 1: Palm Beach and check in with Jeff. Hello, Jeff, you're

607
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: on with Russ and Paul. How are you guys doing

608
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: good weather? It's great down here, Jee, Thanks for telling us.

609
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll maybe it'll move Game four in the World

610
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: Series down to West Palm for the night. Yeah, we're

611
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: we're due for a nasty rainstorm in a couple of

612
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Speaker 1: hours and maybe sooner. Anyway, what do you have for

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Speaker 1: us today, sir? Yeah, I want to just talk about

614
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: the attitude of the giants. I think it's really good

615
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: considering what's happening with him. They come back and you

616
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Speaker 1: you listen to the interviews and everybody's talking great about

617
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Speaker 1: the club. Well, the I can guarantee you this. The

618
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: attitude in the locker room is a winning attitude. You've

619
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Speaker 1: heard it said till we're all blew in the face

620
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Speaker 1: about the culture and changing the culture. The culture and

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Speaker 1: the attitude in the locker room is great. Quite frankly,

622
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: when they had really two miserable games the first two

623
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Speaker 1: of the season, nobody got down. There was this zero

624
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: pointing fingers, none of that. So uh in terms of that. Yeah,

625
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Speaker 1: but but you know what, this is one you want

626
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: to have because you felt, like like I said last week,

627
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, nobody wants to talk about moral victories, but

628
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: there was a lot of positives that came out of

629
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Speaker 1: a game against the defending Super Bowl champs. But you

630
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Speaker 1: want to Now you're back at home, you're coming off

631
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Speaker 1: you know, extra days rest. Now you want to win

632
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Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, I know, I mean, you know, it's

633
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Speaker 1: just things just don't happen at this right time. And

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Speaker 1: they still they try so hard. You can see him

635
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: trying on every play. Yeah, but again, and thank you

636
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: for the call, Jeff trying. This still remains the National

637
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: Football League. They're paid to do more than try. They're

638
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: paid to perform. But you know, with a young team,

639
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: that's certainly part of the growth process. Uh, let's go

640
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: back to our friend in New Mexico. We called back Scott. Hi.

641
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: Guys are making a second appearance. I got caught off

642
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: the first time. Okay. I also had a question about

643
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals defense, and I can take this answer

644
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: off the air. The I know they're getting Patrick Peterson

645
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: back on this, I mean this week after a suspension,

646
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: and he's obviously who he is. He's one of the

647
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: top corners obviously in the league. But my question is

648
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: there the Arizona Cardinals are kind of pour against the run,

649
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if Quan doesn't make it back this week,

650
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: is will that be the natural tenant see to attack

651
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: their defense. I know they have some good defensive linemen,

652
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: but they don't rank very high. Well, let's let's put Scott.

653
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. If if Scott, and thanks

654
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: for the call. If Scott, if say Juan Barkley is back,

655
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: obviously they want to run the ball. That that just

656
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: this common sense goes without saying. I mean, you talk,

657
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: as Paul just said, we're talking about a guy who

658
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: gave you how many yards was the last season? Two

659
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: thousand over two old purpose from scrimmage, I mean comes

660
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: totally scrimmage. You know. Um, one thing I want you

661
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: to keep in mind with the Cardinals, all right, Um,

662
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, they're not They're not very good defensively

663
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: against the run um right now, giving up almost four

664
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: point seven yards per rush, which is twenty two in

665
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: the league, over a hundred and thirty yards a game,

666
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: which is six in the league. Your was of percent correct, Scott.

667
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: You you would want to pound it at them and

668
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: run it and run it and run it more, especially

669
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: knowing that they've got sugs on one side of the

670
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: line and they've got Chandler Jones on the other side

671
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: of the line, and those two edge rushers can really

672
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback and Patrick Peterson is back from

673
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: his six game suspension, the lockdown corner who can blanket

674
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: half the field on any given play. So when you

675
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: think about that, you're absolutely one percent correct. It would

676
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: behoove the Giants to get their running game going this week.

677
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: Now consider this, In the first four games of the

678
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: Giant season, and I know Barkley was there for a

679
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: both of them, the Giants were running the ball for

680
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: over six and a half yards of carry, rush over

681
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: six and a half yards to carry as a team.

682
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: In the last two weeks under three and a half

683
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: yards of carry. Now, yes, Barkley wasn't there. That also

684
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: goes to and Wayne was only there for one game, correct,

685
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: So that goes to a couple of things. Outstanding Vikings

686
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: and Patriots defenses without question, much higher grade than the

687
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: Cardinals defense. But it also goes to I don't think

688
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: the Giants offensive line has run blocked as well the

689
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks either. And we had this call

690
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: yesterday somebody was asking about a push. I think they've

691
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: been inconsistent with their push in the run game last

692
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: two weeks. That's got to stop. It needs to start

693
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: again effective. Sunday, I talked to Mike Rammers about it

694
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: just today and and he agreed again. Though, um, and listen,

695
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses for the offensive line because I

696
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: was in agreement with you. I didn't. They certainly didn't

697
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: have their best certainly wasn't their best game against the

698
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. But you're also talking about an offensive line

699
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: that didn't have the top gun running backs behind them.

700
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: They didn't have one, again, that's part of it, and

701
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: didn't have the backup, so so you got a factor

702
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: at all. The comment to Scott yesterday on the show

703
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: was that up until two weeks ago, the Giants were

704
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: allowing four yards per rush before contact, which is outstanding,

705
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: but not the last two weeks. Again, that's part of

706
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: a lot of things. The mixture has a lot of

707
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: reasons to do with it, but the Giants need to

708
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: fix it, especially if Barkley's back. I don't want to

709
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: hear excuses us. We know you don't want to hear excuses.

710
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: You have Mackenzie already shaking ahead like when does this

711
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: guy stop? What meaning to you know with the excuses?

712
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: And oh do zero one nine, nine four or five

713
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: one three is the number? Let's go to Mark in Chicago, Mark,

714
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: how we doing today? Hey, I'm doing okay? Boys, Um,

715
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't My call isn't necessarily to talk directly about

716
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: the Giants, But I will say one thing. I am

717
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: very encouraged about where we are right now. Uh. You know,

718
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: as you guys talked about before the season started, if

719
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: we could be two and two and then two and

720
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: four or then maybe four and four. You know, we're

721
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: fitting that profile. We talked about a similar approach the

722
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: last few years. It always went down the tubes. So

723
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I think we're gonna have

724
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: a hard time against Detroit, and not that the Cardinals

725
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: are going to be a cake walk either, but I

726
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: think that's the game we might have some problems with.

727
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: Well again, it's the NFL, okay, and the Giants. They

728
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: have no right to be looking past anybody, Okay, at

729
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: two and four, you need to win them all and

730
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: your attitude. You know, some if some teams want to

731
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: be guilty. You hear me say it, the one blew

732
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: in the face. You never look past your opponent in

733
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: front of you. Some teams might be able to Giants.

734
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: It ain't happening, and it's got no business happening if

735
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: it was their mindset, which it's not, so I would

736
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: agree with you. Russ is a thousand percent correct. We

737
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier today in the lunch room. I

738
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: would add, if you really insist, upon looking at the

739
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: Lions down the road, they just came off a very,

740
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: very disgusting and aggravating loss to Green Bay this week.

741
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: They've got the Vikings, So we're talking about two physical,

742
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: back to back division rivals who will beat up on

743
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: that team. To be perfectly frank with you, I don't

744
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: think it's necessarily a bad time to play the Lions

745
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: after back to back games against Green Bay in Minnesota.

746
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: And in fact, I'll tell you right now, if I'm

747
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: if I'm the Giants, I'm rooting for Minnesota to beat

748
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: them black and blue all over the field and knock

749
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: block them senseless. Well, I mean, yeah, sure you want

750
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: that to happen, you know. And I'm not talking about

751
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: getting guys hurt. I'm just talking about beat him up,

752
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, make them make them hurt, make them make

753
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: them sore, make him sore, not hurt, make him sore,

754
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: make them tired, give him another loss. Paul wants to

755
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: take him into an alley and have him blindfolded. There

756
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: you go. Anyway, Well, talking about the Lions game and

757
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: what happened on Monday night, really that was the impetus

758
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: for my call um. I just recently had shoulder surgery,

759
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: so I got to watch five NFL games this weekend.

760
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: And I've been a fan of the NFL for sixty years,

761
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: and after watching those five games, I'm literally disgusted at

762
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: the quality of officiating that has gone down in this league.

763
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell is going on, but

764
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: they got to figure out a way to fix what's

765
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: going on. And you know, you can talk about the

766
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: hands to the face call. I don't know how the

767
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: official makes those calls because he was no more than

768
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: twenty ft away. They had a face on look at

769
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: what was happening. But the thing that bothers me the

770
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 1: most is the fact that you put in a way

771
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: for coaches to uh throw a flag, have the play reviewed,

772
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: and then there's some arbitrary method of deciding whether to

773
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: uphold the call or not. And I'm gonna make a

774
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: comparison to baseball. When you have a replay in baseball,

775
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: they're doing it to make the call right Theoretically, this

776
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: rule is there to make the call right, and they

777
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: are not doing that. They're arbitrarily doing something. If you

778
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: can't have a way to do replay and doing an

779
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: objective fashion, are you to come out with the right call,

780
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing it at all. I happen to

781
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: agree with you thousand percent. I'll give you a better one. Uh.

782
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're talking about the game well with

783
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: the Green Bay game, but uh, Giants weren't playing this

784
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: past weekend. So and obviously we had a rooting interest

785
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: certainly both Uh for the Jets, Paul not too many weekends.

786
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: Paul roots for the Jets, but he was rooting for

787
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: him against the Dallas Cowboys. But I have to tell

788
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: you something, Mark and Paul. I said to myself, this

789
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: is disgraceful. On three consecutive passes, on three consecutive passes,

790
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: the Jets will call for pass interference. Then on two

791
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: consecutive plays that Cowboys got called for holding, and then

792
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: on the sixth straight play it was passing interference again.

793
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: We're talking. It was, you know that old saying, let

794
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: the players decide the game. I think it's absolutely absurd.

795
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: But I also agree with you. First of all, they

796
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: rushed like crazy because there was an incident last year

797
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 1: in the Saints game, the playoff game, so everybody knee

798
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: jerked and overreacted. I thought it was a lousy situation

799
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: that they were getting into. It's proven to be that

800
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: because now you have people uh throwing flags to ask

801
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: for interference, and then when you all look at each

802
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: other and say, well, yeah, it wasn't deference, then they say, no,

803
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: it's the whole thing. Stupid. I couldn't agree with you more.

804
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: That's an excellent point. Mark, you know, I pland something

805
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: because Judie Batista of NFL Network was on from the meetings,

806
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: the league meetings. I guess it was last night on

807
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: on the station and she was there with h my goodness,

808
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: sushi on with I forget. Now here's the point. I

809
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: think it was the rappaport. And they said that this

810
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: occupied a great deal of conversation at the NFL meetings,

811
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: and you can imagine why, right, Okay, They said that

812
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: it appears the NFL is happy with the results, and

813
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: why because when they put the replay rule for pass

814
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: interference in play, they only wanted to be able to

815
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: overturn egregious calls. Well, because the low percentage of pass

816
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: interference reviews have been overturned. The number is so ridiculously low,

817
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: and they that nobody seems to have those statistics. Every

818
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: once in a while you see him in the paper,

819
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: but nobody actually keeps a running tally that I've seen anywhere,

820
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: because the percentage is so low. Apparently, the conversation at

821
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: the league meetings was, well, coaches are now saying we're

822
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: not even gonna bother doing it. So consequently the league said,

823
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: is well, the rules working because because we're not getting

824
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: the kind of replay review requests that everybody said we

825
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: were going to get, because the coaches realize that we're

826
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: probably not going to overturn it anyway. Well, personally, I

827
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: think that's spin. I'm not I'm not a fan of

828
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: that reason at all. Part of the part of the

829
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: expression that's asked backwards. There you go because you said no, no,

830
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: because you want to know something, the point being don't

831
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: put a rule in. I mean, then they should have

832
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: said the rule could only be this, you can only

833
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: contest egregious calls. I mean, it's stupid, you know, It's

834
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: like being either you're not a little bit pregnant. Either

835
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: you are or you're not. Okay, what's the same thing

836
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: with this. Either it was pass interference or it wasn't

837
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: pass interference. Not the bullcraft, it's not sense anything else.

838
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: Market that implementation of the rule is really a disrespect

839
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: to the head coaches because they're trying to manage the

840
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: game for their team, and you're again putting agreed to

841
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: is not the objective benchmark. It's based on someone's opinion

842
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: somewhere brapped back in New York. Agree. It's a real

843
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: disrespect for the coach who has only three time outs

844
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: and he thinks it's egregious enough that he can spend that.

845
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: And then you're you're saying that no question enough. If

846
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: it's a rule, it's a rule. It's black and white.

847
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: Make the call, don't make the call. Throwing in the

848
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: egregious subjectivity is an absolute hornets nest. You want to

849
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: know what mark you've really thought this out at every

850
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: point that you're mad spot really get rid of the role.

851
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: I'd rather just get rid of it. I really would. Alright,

852
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: just make one more point and I'll get off the air.

853
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: I was watching the show today and they said, look,

854
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: at all the NFL networks now that are broadcasting games.

855
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: And the third analyst didn't bove is a person who

856
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: evaluates the officiating on the field. When that happens, you

857
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: know you've lost the battle. It's it's lost, so good

858
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: for the time you want to know what it's an excellent,

859
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: excellent point. Just about was a mockery. Just get rid

860
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: of it. We have no but think about what he

861
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: just said. If we have to have somebody in the

862
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: booth to always talk about the calls, then something's bad wrong.

863
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: As our friend Dan Reeves would say, something is bad wrong,

864
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: that's right, matter something bad wrong, bad wrong. Yeah, well,

865
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: Mark's right, that is a BS call and it's nonsense.

866
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: You why don't we have somebody in the booth all

867
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: the time specifically to talk because you wouldn't need somebody

868
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: in the booth if we weren't always upset about a call.

869
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: You're taking me back in the time machine with Dan Reeves.

870
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: Remember his other favorite phrase, if it's if ifs and

871
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: butts were cookies and nuts, every day would be like Christmas.

872
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: If ifs and buds were candies and nuts, every day

873
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: would be Christmas. That there you go, Ms Dan Dan,

874
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: great guy. All right, let's go to we got a

875
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: time for a couple of more. Let's go to uh

876
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: Neil someplace in New York. Neil, how are you doing today? Hey?

877
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Guys? Hi? Um? I wanted to

878
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: call about the composition of the roster. But this replay

879
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: thing that you guys are just discussing as my dander up. Um,

880
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: you guys are around my age. You must know that

881
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: like football was made for TV and TV. You know,

882
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: TV made football more so than the other sports. Why

883
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: can the other sports, even tennis? I mean they're in

884
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: and out cameraton. They have baseball getting the call right. Basketball,

885
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: they they will slow down to play to the hundreds

886
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: of the seconds to see if the shot and run

887
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: off or not. And in football were always the wrong

888
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: didn't want to see the right call? Well, I think, Neil,

889
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: I think, And we don't have a lot of time,

890
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: so thank you for the call. Well, try to explain

891
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: to your offer if you're asking me. Uh again, Paul

892
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: and I are very critical of this, but in fairness,

893
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: comparing football to the other sports, when you're calling the calls,

894
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: football is a lot more complicated. There's a lot more action,

895
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: on every play, there's twenty two bodies going at it, okay,

896
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: on every specific play. So to me, it just makes

897
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: it far more complicated. I mean baseball, you know, baseball

898
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: is pretty well cut and dry. You know, it's if

899
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: it's foul, it's not foul. Did he tag him? Did

900
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: he not tag him? I mean that that is what

901
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: it is. Did it go over it? Just? You know, Uh,

902
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: football is a different beast, and to me, they still

903
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: get him wrong, which doesn't think you happy. That's why

904
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: we're talking about it. But that is, uh, that is

905
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: the problem. Let's go to uh California, check in with Manny. Hello, Manny,

906
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: what do you got for Russ and Paul today? Hey?

907
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 1: How are you doing rust? This is your Brooklyn Tech

908
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: alumni buddy? Oh, how are you doing pal? What what

909
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: was your graduating class? Manny? Yeah? Oh, two years two

910
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: years before me, two years before me. Yeah, we were there.

911
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: We overlapped a couple of years. All right, what do

912
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: you got to do? What's that? What do you got

913
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: for us today? Man? We only have a few minutes.

914
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: Does us still owe you some munch money? Now? He

915
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: probably owes me. Listen, I was glad I wanted to

916
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: come on with you and PAULI, because you guys are

917
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: our old school. It bugged me at the beginning of

918
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: the game against the Patriots that we deferred and the

919
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: Patriots had got the kickoff, they got received and they

920
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: had the wind. You remember in the parself years and

921
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: take the wind if I think we made a big

922
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: mistake there, or is this something that occurs now with

923
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: the new rule over the last ten years that if

924
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: you defer, then the other guy gets gets to receive

925
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: and gets to choose the defending goal. I I'm not

926
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: the biggest analytics guy. In fact, you know, I really

927
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: can't stand them. Uh, there is this big push over

928
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: the last several years that says, defer because you want

929
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: the ball to start the third quarter, because this way

930
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: you can kind of um manipulate how the thing plays

931
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: out at the end of the second quarter, you see,

932
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: because this way, if you know you've got the ball

933
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: coming out to open the third right, and you can

934
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: kind of go on a form in a drive or

935
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: whatever it is, to milk the end of the first

936
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: half out that means you get back to back possession

937
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: sandwiched around halftime. If you're on defense, the thinking is

938
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: well if we stop this team and stone them, we

939
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: get the ball to start the third quarter, and that's

940
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: our chance to strike and hurt them as well. So

941
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: there's this whole thing about analytics that's coming to play

942
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: where it's prompted coaches to defer because of the momentum

943
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: or the mathematics, as opposed to Parcelves who always believed

944
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: the only time you defer is to play the wind conditions.

945
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: But many, to be frank with you, I thought the

946
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: very same thing. You know, do do I want to defer? Uh?

947
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: You know, and give the ball to Tom Brady to

948
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: start the game. Okay, I mean as it is, Uh,

949
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, we're heavy underdogs were playing in New England. However,

950
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: and maybe you know, I don't know. I didn't ask him.

951
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: But you know, also if the Giants we were going

952
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: to keep the ball to start the game, you know,

953
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: Patriman might be saying himself, will hold on a second,

954
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't have se Quon, I don't have Anger, I

955
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: don't have Sterlink, I don't have Wayne, So maybe I

956
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: should start with my defense. I'm not saying that was

957
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: his logic, but I think that is a logical way

958
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: to think about it. Well in this particular tation. But

959
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: even if he did that, so if you wanted to

960
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: start on defense, that then take the wind so that

961
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: you did. What ended up happening is that New England

962
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: had the ball in the wind, and if you remember

963
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: the start of that, they were driving down the field

964
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: like gangbusters. Luckily they got a little arrogant and spold

965
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: and went for it on fourth down and then we

966
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: were able to take over the ball. But that could

967
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: have been a disastrous start. Yeah. But you see, Manny,

968
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: that's only because you're an a lum of that elite

969
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Tech High School, so you know the difference with

970
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: wind variants and everything else. But so he thank you

971
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: for the call, man. He always appreciate talking, buddy. You know,

972
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: I know that Parcels used to always say, you win

973
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: the toss, you take the ball first, unless the wind

974
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: conditions say otherwise, which they did against the red Skins

975
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: following the Night six season in the playoff game at

976
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: Giant Stadium, remember that game, and Bill said, no, we're

977
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna take the wind instead of the ball.

978
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: Bill always believed you take the ball first, you score first,

979
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: you get that possession. Even Tom Coughlin would always say

980
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: to me, why would I give the other team the

981
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: ball first? That guarantees them one more possession than us

982
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 1: unless something crazy happens in the game and we wind

983
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: up with more turnovers. And then the last year or

984
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: two of Tom's career he started going the other way

985
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: because the analytics people told him again, you know how

986
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: you and I feel about analytics, not not just in

987
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: it's quite frankly, it's in all sports. I mean, what

988
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: happened to looking into a guy's eyes? Can he do

989
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: this for me? Not? Let me see this? Says uh

990
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,040
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995
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Speaker 1: did that very well? Did that very well? Anyway, folks,

996
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: we got one more call. No, we don't were done,

997
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: We don't know. We can extend a minute. Go ahead,

998
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: take the last coal. We got him call. We we

999
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: had him one hole. Take Okay, Alex in Dallas, Alex,

1000
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: how you doing today? Good? Good? Yeah, thanks for taking

1001
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: the call. Yeah, I just got a quick question. I

1002
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: know you guys are coming towards the end of the show,

1003
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: so um, I know the other call I had mentioned

1004
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall as potential opportunity. Um there. I like what

1005
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: David Mayo is doing. I like what i O Tree

1006
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: You're doing. But I was just wondering what you guys

1007
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: would think about. I haven't heard his name mentioned at all.

1008
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: Rolando McClane, Um, I know he's been battled. He just

1009
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: got reinstated by the NFL last month. Um like cow

1010
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: Boys that cut them another deep at the linebacking position

1011
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: that he got reinstated. He got originally suspended for ten

1012
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: games for coding addiction. But I'm sure as a NFL

1013
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: linebacker pain, I couldn't imagine what it's like. Well, well,

1014
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Alex. Again, we don't have a

1015
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: lot of time to get into it. I mean you're talking.

1016
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna surmise what his issues were. Uh well,

1017
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: the reasons for it, but that might be a problem

1018
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: that I don't want to inherit, you know, just based

1019
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: on that simply put. Yeah, okay, his player personal profile

1020
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: is checkered with a lot of stuff. The Giants just

1021
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: spent a very very long off season last year, trying

1022
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: to clean up this locker room to get the guys

1023
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: they want in there. I don't see them bringing to me. No,

1024
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean you're surmising, well what Panama, I don't know

1025
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: the pain and this and that bottom line is in.

1026
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. We've had a couple of calls

1027
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: about this with guys. I don't want somebody else's problem. Okay.

1028
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not Mother Teresa here. I'm not looking

1029
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: to everybody. No, but everybody says you're a nice guy.

1030
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: Long I certainly am. Having said that, I still don't

1031
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: want everybody's problem. You know, I'm not looking for st hood.

1032
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm just looking to win the damn Gaines Sun. That's

1033
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: all right, Perry. At end of the story, well you

1034
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: had sat hoo, you could have fixed it for the

1035
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: Yankees last night. That's your situation. That's not money anyway, folks.

1036
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: That's a wrap on today. We had a good couple

1037
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: of days here. Me and PAULI had the lovely Mackenzie

1038
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: angring with us at the controls, and as always you

1039
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: the fans. So we thank you for being here because

1040
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: without you there, we'd have nobody here to be talking to,

1041
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: So until next time. For again for Mackenzie, for Paul,

1042
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm Russe Allsburg. Thanks for being here. Talk to you

1043
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: next week. Go Giants against the Cardinals one one one