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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We have an exciting podcast today. We have an author

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Speaker 2: with us and I am extremely excited to talk about

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Speaker 2: this book because I feel like it has just reading

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Speaker 2: it has taught me so much about my own parenting

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Speaker 2: and what's going on in my house. And the author

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Speaker 2: we have with us today is Margo May call biz

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Speaker 2: now and she is the author of a book about entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 2: But she spent twenty years in government, serving as a

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Speaker 2: former Commissioner of the Federal Trade Commission under President Ronald

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Speaker 2: Reagan and George H. W. Bush, also as a former

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Speaker 2: chief of Staff to President Reagan's Council of Economic Advisors,

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Speaker 2: and her career her long career surrounded by some of

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Speaker 2: the great business minds. She also authored this book that

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about today, Raising an Entrepreneur, How

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Speaker 2: to help your children achieve their dream Margot, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for joining me.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I'm delighted.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: So I was reading through this, so I will just

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Speaker 2: tell you I have four daughters. So I'm reading through

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Speaker 2: this and I'm like making a mental note of the

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Speaker 2: things that I focus on and the things that they

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Speaker 2: focus on, and maybe in certain cases, I'm focusing on

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Speaker 2: the wrong things because I have made One of the

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Speaker 2: things you said is one of the things that these

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Speaker 2: parents have looked back on and said is maybe I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have pushed so hard. Maybe I shouldn't have tried

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Speaker 2: to fix things. And I find myself doing that. So

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Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about how you got this

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Speaker 2: idea and who you sat down and talked to.

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Speaker 3: So how I got the idea.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, when I had kids your kid's age,

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Speaker 4: I had no idea what I was doing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, that makes me feel better. I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: don't want them to figure that out. You know, as

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Speaker 2: they can't figure out that I really don't know what I'm.

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Speaker 3: Doing, right, I think none of us know what we're doing.

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Speaker 4: But and I also I didn't think about so many

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Speaker 4: of these things in my own family until afterwards, after

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Speaker 4: I'd written the book and I talked to lots of

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Speaker 4: parent groups and I was like, oh, my god, you

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Speaker 4: know I should have done this, I should have done that,

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Speaker 4: but you don't think about it at the time. So

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Speaker 4: how I ended up doing it as my young my

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Speaker 4: older son, Elliott, started an organization called Summit or Summit Series,

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Speaker 4: the way they did. And so I went up and

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Speaker 4: I asked them, like, how did you end up like

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Speaker 4: taking on so much risk, working so hard to achieve

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Speaker 4: They all said, I had someone who believed in me.

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Speaker 4: Usually it was a parent, more usually it was their mom.

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Speaker 3: But it was always someone.

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Speaker 4: I mean, even on occasion I'd run into someone who

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Speaker 3: It was always somebody, usually a mom.

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Speaker 2: But you know, as I was reading through, I noticed

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Speaker 1: But I think that is sort of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think obviously it's super important for

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Speaker 3: But most of the dads were more kind of traditionally oriented.

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Speaker 3: Crazy crazy rich Asians.

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Speaker 2: Of coercion that takes, like the guts to go to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just did Wicked if you saw.

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Speaker 3: They just made it something so fun.

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Speaker 4: And the dad was just like WHOA, thank you, Like

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Speaker 2: dad used to always say it's better to have a

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Speaker 1: May have all the degrees. They may have all the grades.

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Speaker 1: So that's fascinating.

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Speaker 2: more after this. Do you think that when when you

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Speaker 4: So these were not raised by parents who said you

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Speaker 4: Right, And it's not These were not just all moms

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Speaker 2: see the things that they take their personal time and

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Speaker 2: they invest their personal time into different ideas. And so

441
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Speaker 2: I do have one that is has always talked about

442
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: becoming a seamstress and being able to create her own clothes.

443
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 2: You know, she wants to be a fashion designer, and

444
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: so she will draw out little sketches of what she

445
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: thinks would be cool outfits. It's not something that I

446
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: That to me is the fascinating part. It's not something

447
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: I've ever done. And I think that was kind of

448
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: a theme that I saw throughout your book too. It

449
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: wasn't like they had seen their parents doing this work.

450
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: These were totally new ideas they had created all on

451
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: their own right.

452
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 4: And so for me, both our kids had passions from

453
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Speaker 4: the time they were about thirteen. My younger son, Austin,

454
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 4: as I was saying, was writing music, and our oldest son, Elliott,

455
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 4: was playing tennis like five hours a.

456
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Speaker 3: Day, seven days a week.

457
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 4: And we don't play tennis, and we don't know anything

458
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 4: about music. And I'd go to these tournaments of the

459
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 4: top hundred kids in the country and I was literally

460
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Speaker 4: like the only.

461
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Speaker 3: Person who didn't know the rules.

462
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Speaker 4: And it wasn't until after I wrote the book and

463
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 4: I started thinking about it, I realized like it was

464
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 4: really good that they had found these things they loved

465
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 4: that we knew nothing about, because we're really helpful people,

466
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: and if it had been anything that we knew something

467
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 4: about we'd have been all over them with suggestions.

468
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 5: Why don't you try it this way? Let me introduce

469
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Speaker 5: you to this person. I can help you get this,

470
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Speaker 5: I can do this for you.

471
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Speaker 3: And we were just like, no, i'd you want to.

472
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 4: You know, you have to figure out who to train with,

473
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,239
Speaker 4: what rackets to get, what tournaments to enter, you know,

474
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 4: for our older son, you have to figure out what

475
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 4: hardware to get and what software to get, and who

476
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 4: should produce your CD and who should give you piano

477
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 4: lessons and guitar lessons and drum let like, we don't

478
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: know any of these things that we paid for stuff,

479
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 4: but we couldn't give them in And that was really

480
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: good that they had to figure it out. I just

481
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 4: didn't know it at the time.

482
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Speaker 2: So what would you say are the top three suggestions

483
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: to parents who see these traits in their kids or

484
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: even don't you know, just as a parent, But I

485
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: think that if you're out there and you're listening, I

486
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: would agree with you that it's around I would say

487
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 2: eleven to thirteen that you start to really see what

488
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: they're focused on, what they want to pour their lives into.

489
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: And not to say that you know what your kid

490
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: is going to do, but you start to see what

491
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Speaker 2: their personality lends them to. And So, as someone who's

492
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Speaker 2: gone through this and interviewed all these people, what is

493
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: your advice to parents out there that are right now going, Oh,

494
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,479
Speaker 2: my gosh. We're in this digital world where kids are

495
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: constantly on their phones and we get so much, so

496
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: much advice from TV, and like you, it's not so

497
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: much advice, I would say criticism. It feels like as

498
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: a parent today that you are suffering from constant criticism.

499
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: Don't let your kids have a phone at the table,

500
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: don't let your kids take it, you know, the car

501
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: out here, don't let your kids stay out late, don't

502
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: let your kids have a phone at this age. And

503
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: it's just but these are all things that are out there.

504
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: I think it's also challenging because when we were young,

505
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 2: you could just call up a friend on the phone,

506
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: and now they don't have a phone phone, there's no

507
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 2: house phones. You can't call your friend's house and talk

508
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: to them. So there are a lot of pressures as

509
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: parents that were like, how do we handle this? So

510
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 2: what are the top three pieces of advice you would

511
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Speaker 2: give parents today?

512
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean those are all big issues, and you

513
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: know I'm not the person to answer those, although I

514
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 4: would say no phones at the table, right, But.

515
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: I would tell parents first, and you're right, don't.

516
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 4: Worry if there's no passion. You know, before they're twelve

517
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: or thirteen or whatever. That was the age that both

518
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: of my kids founded, and a lot of kids their

519
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 4: passion may change over time. I mean, my older son

520
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 4: does nothing professionally with tennis today, you know. So I

521
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 4: would tell parents first of all, see what gives your

522
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 4: kids joy. Parents who tell me, you know, parents of

523
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 4: high school seniors say well, I don't know what my

524
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 4: kids passions or interests are. I'm like, you just haven't

525
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: paid attention. You've been forcing them to spend so much

526
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 4: time doing things you think are useful that you've never

527
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 4: let them explore. You've never let them try different things

528
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 4: and see what makes them happy.

529
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 5: So see what gives them joy, and then encourage them

530
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Speaker 5: to spend time that.

531
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Speaker 4: The second thing I think is really important is let

532
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Speaker 4: your child compete in something. Whether it's submitting fashion designs

533
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Speaker 4: for a jury, whether it's a sport, whether it's running

534
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: for class office, you know, whether it's whatever. Let them

535
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 4: compete in something and let them learn how to compete,

536
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 4: let them learn to pivot when it's not working well.

537
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 4: Let them learn that failure is how they learn and grow.

538
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 4: Let them learn that setbacks are okay, and let them

539
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 4: become resilient and learn how to deal with setbacks and failure.

540
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Speaker 3: And don't criticize them for failing. If they fail at something.

541
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Speaker 4: Ask them what did you What would you do differently

542
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 4: next time?

543
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: What did you learn about this? What do you think

544
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: you could have changed? Is there something you do differently?

545
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: Don't say, oh, it's the other guy's fault, you know.

546
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 4: I mean get them to start being curious and to thinking,

547
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: and get them to be willing to take risks and

548
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: to know that if they take risks and it doesn't

549
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: work out, you're okay with that.

550
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Speaker 2: more coming up. I noticed you talked about your son

571
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: playing tennis, and there was another person in there that said,

572
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: I was a really hardcore soccer player. Don't use soccer

573
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: today at all, but it seems like that that time

574
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: of being a part of a team was really important

575
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: to a lot of these kids that ended up becoming

576
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Speaker 2: entrepreneurs as well.

577
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: You also talk about.

578
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: Regrets that parents have, and I think that some of

579
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: those you probably just covered in the suggestions of you know,

580
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: not going.

581
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: After a kid for a failure, But I do.

582
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: Think that that has I think my generation really struggles

583
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: with the idea of, well, when our kids fail, what

584
00:28:59,560 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: do we do?

585
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: How can we save them?

586
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: You know there is this yes, yes, yes, we are

587
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: the generation that was always praised.

588
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: So how do we What I mean, if you don't fail,

589
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: that's you don't learn.

590
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: And that's what I've obviously learned in my business life

591
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: and everything else is the best information you get out

592
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: of life is through failure. So how do you convince

593
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: parents today to not freak out when there is failure?

594
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: But what are also the top regrets of parents of entrepreneurs?

595
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just, you know, back on the

596
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: failure thing.

597
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I just want to reiterate how

598
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: important it is and follow up to what you said, tutor,

599
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 4: because it's so I mean, we want to protect our

600
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: children and if something bad happens and they fail, or

601
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: it doesn't work, or they don't get the part, or

602
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: they don't make the field goal, or they don't you know,

603
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 4: they don't make the team or or the team doesn't

604
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: win or whatever. They don't, they don't win the office.

605
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 5: Whatever they're We're like, oh, we want to protect them,

606
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: we want to make them feel better.

607
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: It's okay, it wasn't your fault.

608
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the worst possible thing we can do as parents,

609
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 4: and all of us did it. I did it, We

610
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: all did it, and we all feel really bad about

611
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: the times we did it. We all we all wish

612
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: we hadn't done it when we did it, but we

613
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: all hope that we didn't do it more than we

614
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: did do it, you know, And we all hope.

615
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 5: That that we let them fail.

616
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: And we know that that's okay, because you're never going

617
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: to be an entrepreneur or even entrepreneurial. You're never going

618
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: to be creative if you're afraid to take risks, and

619
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: you're never going to take risks if you're afraid to fail.

620
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: And I mean that goes right back to kids feeling

621
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: like they're welcome back at the house. That really stuck

622
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: with me, I have to say, because, like I said,

623
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: when I graduated from college, so many and my friends said, well,

624
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: I was told not to come home, and I remember thinking,

625
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: what is scary? And I don't think I ever felt

626
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: that way, and I actually never did go back to

627
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: my parents' house after college, but I never felt like

628
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: I couldn't.

629
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Speaker 1: And so I do think that that helps you.

630
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: To feel like, Okay, I got this, I'm up, because

631
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: if I don't, I'm.

632
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: Okay, right exactly.

633
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: No, So obviously you have great parents because you didn't

634
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: go home, but you knew you could. And that's the

635
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 4: only important thing to have that confidence that it's that

636
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: it's there for you.

637
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, I have to say reading

638
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: the book was It's a very it goes very fast.

639
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: I love the way you set it up so that

640
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: you hear these people's stories, but it's quick.

641
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: And it was very emotional for me. As I was

642
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: reading through it.

643
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: I was really touched by so many of these stories

644
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: because I think, not only especially having kids that I

645
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: and I'm sure having kids of any age, the book

646
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: is great. Having my kids write and then smack dab

647
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: in high school and middle school, and having just lost

648
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 2: my own dad a couple of years ago, reading through it,

649
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: it was such an emotional journey for me because I'm like, wow,

650
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: it gave me such good advice and such and kind

651
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: of affirmed things that I am doing and then okay,

652
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: maybe I need to change that a little bit.

653
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: But it was also just like looking back.

654
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 2: At my own parents and seeing my own upbringing and

655
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: just so brought up a lot of emotion.

656
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: But you could tell the love.

657
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: I think that was the most striking part about the book,

658
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: was just so much love.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely. And I also I really like this

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Speaker 3: second edition so much more than the first edition because.

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Speaker 4: It's each each of the it's ninety nine stories and

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Speaker 4: each one is two to four pages, and each story

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Speaker 4: starts with a picture of.

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Speaker 3: Them when they were young in a picture of them today, and.

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Speaker 5: So you're like, oh, those people they were just like me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's exactly right. Yes, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, it looks like my childhood.

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Speaker 4: Like here's an example like Eric Ryan, who started three

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Speaker 4: billion dollar companies, including method products, which you used. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: his passion growing up with sailing. That's all he cared

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Speaker 4: about was sailing. And you know, it's just it's just

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Speaker 4: cool to every single story in there. You just see

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Speaker 4: a picture of them when they're like a dorky high

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Speaker 4: school kid or you know, or some but it.

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Speaker 2: Makes it such a quick I mean it's it's a

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Speaker 2: quick read because of that you can go through, and

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Speaker 2: but it's also fascinating because these are, like you said,

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Speaker 2: method products. They're all products that you know everything that

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Speaker 2: is in there. When you read about it, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: my goodness, the story behind this is fascinating. So it's

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Speaker 2: not like you're picking something up and you're hearing about

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Speaker 2: people out of nowhere, like.

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Speaker 1: Aviating or Aviator Nation.

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Speaker 2: I had just gone through one of their stores about

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Speaker 2: six months ago in California. I'm like, whoa, we don't

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Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of that over here in

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Speaker 2: the West side of Michigan. But then suddenly I started

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Speaker 2: seeing it and I was like, then I see it

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Speaker 2: in your book. I'm like, oh, I can connect all

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Speaker 2: these brands to a story that is not unlike mine

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Speaker 2: and not unlike my kids. And so that's why I

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Speaker 2: think it's so fascinating. If you have, like I said,

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Speaker 2: kids of any age, this is a book that is

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Speaker 2: going to help you be a better parent, or affirm

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Speaker 2: what you're already doing, and just make you feel like, wow,

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Speaker 2: America is a great country. So tell us again the

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Speaker 2: name of the book where everybody can find it, how

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Speaker 2: they can get it.

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Speaker 3: Amazon Raising an Entrepreneur.

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Speaker 4: How to help your children achieve their dreams ninety nine

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Speaker 4: stories from families who.

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Speaker 2: Did it's I mean, really thank you for writing it,

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Speaker 2: because I the intro where your sons tell you got

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Speaker 2: to write the.

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Speaker 1: Book and they say, sometimes you have to.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like parenting up right, Hey, we've got you, mom,

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Speaker 2: do this.

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Speaker 1: We think we believe in you.

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Speaker 2: They could only have been that way if you had

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Speaker 2: been an amazing mom. So I know you were, and

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Speaker 2: I know you are, and I appreciate that you have

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Speaker 2: encouraged all of us.

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Speaker 3: That's so sweet.

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Speaker 4: I just want to say, not everyone in the book

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Speaker 4: is a has a billion dollar company, right man.

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Speaker 3: My son actually said.

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Speaker 4: To me, Mom, don't just do the people with the

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Speaker 4: billion dollar companies, because that's not what most people.

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Speaker 3: Are going to be, right.

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Speaker 6: People to know, Hey, entrepreneurship is a path and maybe'll

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Speaker 6: maybe it'll just be me, and maybe it'll be me

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Speaker 6: and four employees, you know, but it's a path and

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Speaker 6: it's something parents should be open to, and.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely a strong path in this country. That's why

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Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, it's not just.

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Speaker 1: That It is a book about love. It is a

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Speaker 1: book about what is possible.

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Speaker 2: Here and in this moment, I think that especially at

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Speaker 2: this time right now, so many people are going clawing

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Speaker 2: back at what America really is and saying, I just

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Speaker 2: want to hear about it. And if you really want

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Speaker 2: to hear what your country is and how amazing your

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Speaker 2: country is, read about the people who build the companies

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Speaker 2: every single day. And like you said, it's even the

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Speaker 2: restaurant down the street from you, it's the big company

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Speaker 2: that makes the clothing that you wear. All of these

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Speaker 2: people have been able to take this path because of

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Speaker 2: not only how they were raised, by the country they

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Speaker 2: live on live in. And I appreciate the fact that

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Speaker 2: you were able to highlight that in such a beautiful way.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. It's wonderful to talk to.

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Speaker 2: You, absolutely, and thank you for coming on to talk

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Speaker 2: to us, and for everybody listening. Make sure you check

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Speaker 2: out the book and check out the author. Her name

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Speaker 2: is Margot, her name is Margo May call biz now

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Speaker 2: and this is the book see Raising an Entrepreneur Margo

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Speaker 2: is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, lad, Sweet, Thank you so much, tutor.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and thank you all for joining us on the

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Speaker 2: Tutor Dixon Podcast. You can go to Tutor disonpodcast dot

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Speaker 2: com and subscribe there, or the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcast to join us next

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Speaker 2: time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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