WEBVTT - JoJo 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:13.560 Quest Left Show is a production of iHeart Radio. All Right, 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:21.040 we're gonna anyway, lads, moment. Wait, this is starting off 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:26.320 the way that I didn't want it to start off. Okay, 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.680 we gonna breathe. All right, listen, Welcome to the Quest 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:35.479 Love Show. So, as you know, I have personally spent 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.760 the greater part of this decade buried in a lot 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:42.360 of metaphysical books and self help books. I've said it 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.960 over and over again, YadA, YadA, YadA, but at some 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:50.280 point the brain actually needs a break. And those few 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.440 times that I've taken a break and went left, and 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.080 you know, my go to thing has always been music memoirs, 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.920 and me picking up a particular music memoir also conveniently 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.240 lined up with one of my very first game nights 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.760 in Los Angeles, where are pal in front of the 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:13.679 show jazz masifhas Jones. She basically rolled in with today's 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:19.520 guests as her plus one, and I remember the rapid 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:26.240 timing of gasps and that went around the room when 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.959 our guests entered game night, and I will say that 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.080 probably we hit it off famously. So cut to a 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:38.959 week later, I'm bookshopping in the airport and boom, there 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.520 she is on the shelf, staring back at me on 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.280 her cover, and I thought, Okay, let me see what 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:49.480 the journey has been for our guest, because I really 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.760 haven't kept up since you know, her days of when 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.680 I first seen her on TRL yesteryear and you know, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.240 in the early arts and whatnot. I got to say 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.600 twenty years plus, you know, the resume that she's not 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.040 going to brag about being the artist with the I 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.840 guess the youngest artist with a number one single. She's 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.040 gone multi platinum, a Grammy of course for say so, 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:16.760 and not to mention Setina mullin Rouge on Broadway and 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:21.800 h yeah, an instant New York Times bestseller memoir called 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:27.480 Over the Influence and which not only I read as 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:32.600 a book, but read with the companion audiobook, and which 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.639 to me that was the game changer of it all, 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.520 Like I basically had to read the book twice. And 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.480 timing has really never worked before in the stars have 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.840 aligned in which our guests has finally come to the show, 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.800 and I'm gonna pretend we're not friends in real life. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:56.080 I'm gonna keep this really professional. Jojo, Welcome to the Quest. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:57.640 Listen, sare I can't. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.519 Believe how you doing. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.040 I'm tickled to be here. Thank you for having me. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:04.040 I'm honestly honored. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.720 Thank you. I'm going to try to keep this professional. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:11.480 Why well, okay, however you have, however you want to 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:12.200 do it. I'm excited. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.560 You know, even though we've been doing this for I 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.079 guess you can say this is ten years now in 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.560 this particular format, I'm like shy of a year or 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:27.960 a year plus, and so I'm still learning, still reading 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.760 the comments. Yes, I'm still learning how to navigate this 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.840 as a solo artist. You know, I'm still on off 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.920 the wall now I've gotten the thrill of you. So 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.160 the thing is is that since we first met and 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:45.240 bonded at game night, I thought that I would do 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.800 something a little bit different than I normally do, like 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.040 I try to do it chronologically, but really I want 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:55.600 everyone out there to get your book and read it themselves. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:04:00.000 And I really like second to Mariah's book, like her audio, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.320 a book like for me to hear the story to 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.960 come from the person makes all the difference in the world. 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.520 When you told me that you were reading my book, 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.720 I couldn't believe it. And the way in which you 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.560 you know, broke things down for me. You really paid attention. 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.760 You gave me a whole new lease on life about 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:18.760 this thing that I had done that I just thought 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.599 was kind of just in the ethery. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.600 I just thought, like a book out there. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.560 No, I mean, I just you never know, And so 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:26.560 just thank you. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.919 For I admire people that with a journey and the 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.840 story to tell, and so and more than that, it's 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.960 not only a journey, but I mean, you drop a 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.400 lot of gems in there. You know, you're not shy 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.159 about your shortcomings and a lot of them where you 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.320 might have failed. So I mean, the human thing is happening. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.200 And plus I think at the time I was on 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.080 my same journey of if we want to call it 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.880 the righteous path, and so yeah, I really admired it. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.440 And it's weird for me to come in backwards. I 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.680 had had to start with a memoir and then work 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.200 my wa backwards to your music, whereas everyone got to 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:04.839 know you first and did the opposite. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.760 Well, you were busy, so I get it. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.880 Yes, we were busy, but we're here now. So what 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.159 I'm trying to do is I'm going to ask you 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:18.400 some rapid fire questions that are mixed up that probably 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.440 you haven't been asked before, because I also want to 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.520 know like the human side of you. So I'm basically 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:26.080 encouraging people out there to just read the memoir to 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.839 get the soup to nuts story of your life. But yeah, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.240 there's a lot I want to ask you. So number one, 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:33.920 what is your coffee order? 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:38.200 My coffee order is a I'm in milk cappuccino, A simple, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.960 no sweetener, blah blah blah. I want a local coffee shop. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.320 Okay, you support mom and plops, I've got reference. I 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.159 got you. Okay, But sometimes when you're middle of nowhere 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:48.800 in at. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.200 The airport, I will get a quartado. I think some 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.400 night quartads and just like just a little bit of 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.720 likes espresso with a little milk, I think is kind 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.640 of what it is, or quartado. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.280 I think the reason why I'm shotings sufferable. I'm not 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.360 the coffee person that I should be because it's just 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.560 too intimidating to know all those flavors and whatnot. And 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:15.080 it is moclados and babados and there's no more small 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:19.039 medium and exactly it's just really intimidating to me. So 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.400 I just responded by not having a coffee preference. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.440 So yeah, and there's no reason you should. My first 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.520 therapist said, don't should all over yourself. 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:33.400 Okay, agree with that question Number two, what is your 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.560 greatest fear when you start a new project. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:39.800 I think we've talked a lot about this. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.960 Just we don't know each other, Okay, we're strangers. 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.160 My greatest fear when starting a new project is that 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:49.039 I won't be able to produce what the feeling that 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:50.679 I want to create. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.520 So what's inside here has a hard time. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.039 Yeah, and I won't be able to manifest that because 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.400 also I am a communal creator. You know, I'm not 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.479 a producer. I really enjoyed the co writing process, but 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.400 I also love coming with my ideas and my lyrics 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.520 and melodies and all that. But I worry that I 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.440 won't be able to communicate what it is that is 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.520 the desire of my heart, if that makes sense, Okay. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:18.960 I believe based on how I've been following you post 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:22.760 pandemic and whatnot on social media, there's one thing I 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.920 always wanted to know about. So I'm a communal person also, 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:31.200 but ours is mostly the jam session on stage. Can 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:35.640 you walk me through the process of a typical writer's camp. 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.800 I've seen you do these things where you will gather 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:44.120 with what looks to be like twenty maybe twenty five people. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:45.800 Maybe it's only eleven people in this. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.600 Yeah, like twenty five, Well it looks a lot, yeah. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.160 Yeah, And like this is a process where you just 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.800 gather like three over here. Yes, all right, so walk 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:55.760 me through that process. 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.360 Yeah, So what you're speaking to is like a writer 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.320 a camp for a project. I've actually I've been fortunate 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.160 enough to be called into do When I was at 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:09.040 a certain publishing company, they would like have they rented 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.040 out a place in France and they put all of 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.840 us in a castle. It was crazy. They do these 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:19.160 destination things where they'll pair off an artist, a co writer, 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:23.000 a producer. Three I find to be a good number, 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.880 and three or four. Sometimes they'll put you in a room. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:31.360 You'll have a computer and interface and you know, keyboard 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.880 or guitar or whatever, and you'll re'll write that way. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.120 And it could start with me saying I have this 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.760 idea for a hook, or I have this concept, or 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.480 I'd like to make a song that sounds like this, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:48.200 but with this type of percussive difference in the song 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.920 or whatever, or sometimes we all go in and it's like, 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.240 what are we listening to? What are we feeling? It 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.840 could start from a conversation and then oftentimes if there 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.520 isn't magic within the first hour or two, you'll go 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.520 to the next idea. Because I'm sure you've read Rick 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.840 Rubin's book and I love it. You want to try 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.280 to follow that magic and that impulse and things like that. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.480 So camps can go in different ways. I've done it 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.400 for my album before. Recently, I got some of my 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.480 favorite creatives in a room together in Joshua Tree. That 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:22.040 was about five of us. Thorow, Nephew Fiemster, Tommy Parker, 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:27.600 Niki Flores, and David who works with neph And we 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.160 just stayed up all night and made things in different 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.640 rooms and I bopped around and we finished some ideas. 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.960 And it can happen like that. I don't know if 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.119 that makes sense. 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.079 No, No, I can see it. Yeah, So when's the 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:47.360 last time that, like, do you trust the process of 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.720 just you and one creator? I like that. I'm trying 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:51.520 to see this through. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.800 It's my preference. Actually, sometimes I can get overwhelmed. I 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.040 think the older I get, the more I'm better one 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.400 on one and the more I do trust myself and 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:04.000 I trust my instincts, And that's been a long time 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:08.720 of honing that, getting sensitive to that inner knowing. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:15.040 Yeah, how much of your soul do you want to 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:21.120 expose to your collaborators? Like if songwriting is the cathartic 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:25.160 killing process that songwriters say it is, like, there's got 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.079 to be a point where at least, like the pre 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.360 talk is where you talk about where your life has been, 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.000 like Okay, well I got a divorce last year and 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.480 I had to bury my animal, or you know, like 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.640 whatever it is feeling inside. Is there even space for 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.079 you to just lay out where you are in life 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.640 so that the person knows what they're working with. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.400 I think it's cool, but I also think that using 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.439 it as a therapy session is not always the most 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.280 productive thing. It can kind of get in the way 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:57.400 sometimes of what the actual objective is. Personally, I think 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.880 that there's a time for therapy and this is just 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.880 I feel right now. Maybe I'll feel different the next 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.160 time we speak about this, but right now, I think 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.560 that it can be a little self indulgent sometimes to 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.360 go and dump trauma dump in a session and there's 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.080 a time and a place for that, and I've done 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.240 that so many times over the years, and then I 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.560 end up writing songs that are about depression or about 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.920 feeling like I don't know who I am or I 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:22.520 don't know and you know what, I actually don't want 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.120 to put that out in the world. That's actually not 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.400 what I want my contribution to be right now, do 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:27.760 you know what I mean? I want to act as 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.800 if I want to project another truth within me, which 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:36.800 is love and strength and resonance and empowerment and creativity 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.240 and connection and all those things. So I think sometimes 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:41.760 we need to come in and at least for me 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.520 and fortify or make a decision about like what it 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.160 is that we want to do, and we can get 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.480 to the other stuff later. I think the after session 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.080 download is sometimes a good thing too, But I like 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.240 to be productive in a session and then let's go 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.079 have a debrief O for a glass of wine. 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:03.680 After How long is it typically before you know we 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.599 got a song here? Ooh? 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.679 I think that by the end of the session, if 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:15.000 you've written and laid a first reference of that song, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.120 there's a song in you know that I'm working on 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.280 in my new project. That I knew that day. I 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:21.839 was like, this is special, this is going to set 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:26.120 the tone for this new project. But then it really 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.920 is the opening it up to other people too. Does 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.040 it resonate in the way that it feels to the creatives, 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:36.080 because that is an important part of it. Otherwise I'll 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:40.400 just be making stuff for myself. But I want to connect. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.920 That's the desire of my heart is to connect with 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.280 other people, whether it's one on one or whether it's 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.960 you know, it's not that I want to pander or 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.720 cater to what people think I should be doing, but 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.080 I want it to resonate. So as I start opening 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.800 it up to other people, is it eliciting a stank face? 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.680 Is there a visceral reaction? Is there something that they 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.800 walk away from it with? So that takes time to know. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:03.440 So. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.800 Quincy Jones basically said that his number one rule when 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.760 working on both Off the Wall and Thriller in Bad 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.559 was those three records that if he doesn't get goosebumps 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:18.360 at one point, he'll throw it in the lamp, like 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.360 it'll just go Are you that person where like the 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.600 song has to hit you somewhere in your chakra where 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.360 it's like hm, or is it no? Because I know 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.800 some people that are just I know one songwriter is 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:36.240 just a twenty minute person. He overthinks it, then the 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.120 magic's going, so twenty minutes. It's like I stop, yeah, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:39.840 and that's the song. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.600 Anything Quincy says is a yes for me. I'm listening 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:47.280 and I want to, you know, but everybody's process is different, right, 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.920 But you know, I kneel at the altar of what 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:52.000 Quincy does. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:52.520 I mean? 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.920 So I am looking for some type of visceral reaction 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:58.680 at this point in my life because I've done so 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.120 much over the year years that has not felt in alignment, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:03.640 not really. 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.560 Felt true authentically you, and not really. 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.240 Felt authentically me. And I'm not saying that it needs 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.240 to be like this is exactly where I am blah 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.760 blah blah, but it has to feel true, it has 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.839 to feel like and I'm not saying I've done that 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.480 my whole career, but there's been pockets where I've compromised. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.240 So where you are right now from one to ten, 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.120 and I know this is like you're relearning yourself, the 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.280 adult version of you, and you break in the chains 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.720 of like the studio system and all those things that 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.080 held you bat before. So from one to ten, where 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:38.760 do you feel you are on the number scale? 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.960 As far as life got a number scale, you know. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.400 The ten representing you know your absolute destination point of 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.840 this is where I am now and planning my flag 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.160 or is it still like you're still trying to figure out, 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.720 like what your favorite sound patches are if I like 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.320 singing slow songs. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.840 Or I think I am a process of discovery. I'm 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.320 in a season of trying things on, but not in 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:06.840 the same way that I was trying them on in 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.000 my twenties. I think my thirties have really felt like 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:15.720 such a gift for making it through my uncomfortable, weird, messy, 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.920 dangerous twenties, like even spiritually dangerous, you know what I mean, 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.080 Or not not spiritual, but just like emotionally, like I 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.640 was not a safe place for myself or others. And 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.360 I feel like you're right about that in the book. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:34.000 Yeah, No, I wasn't like it's weird meeting you at 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.520 because I see it a fascination like I can't fathom. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.280 Yeah, I mean, I was just like I was just 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.120 really good for like just getting too drunk and just 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.960 doing some weird shit, you know. What I mean, I 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:51.600 really was, so I think now what you like, I'm 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.560 so glad. I'm so glad we didn't know each other 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.560 then it wasn't it wasn't the best. But I think 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.760 that as far as my artistry, I really feel really 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.760 to being at a place that I want to like 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.360 really stay at and being like this is who I 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.720 am and where I want to stay for quite a while. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.120 So I feel really close. I don't want to give 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.000 it a number because seven is such a boring number. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:17.120 But I did not say that. No, I'm close. I'm close, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.680 And my intention with this, with a project that I'm 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.280 making now is it could be the last thing that 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.160 I make, you know, and then I just go have 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.320 some babies and go f off. But who knows. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:37.720 I could never really Okay, say goodbye? 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:45.160 What is the most air quote? DIVA request on your 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:47.080 hospitality rider? 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.480 Okay, you guys asked me if I wanted snacks here? 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.360 And I thought it was like a cute thing because 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:52.960 I thought you were like, I thought maybe you did 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.560 that with your guests. You're like, what weird snacks do 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.320 you get? So I asked for some weird snacks? I 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.160 was like, could I have some crispy red grapes. Could 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:00.840 I have a diet coke? Could I have an evyon? 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.240 Could have a charcooterie board. Y'all did it? Y'all did it, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.800 but I didn't. I really literally didn't need anything. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.040 Shit is my show, and I didn know that we 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:14.520 could have a rider. Cousin, Jake, Cousin really out, you 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.760 were just like sharing your water with me, like you 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:17.520 want some water. 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:22.359 Mire You know, you are so generous though, especially with 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.639 your food offerings and everything, so I thought that that 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.520 was a part of the thing. So anyway, my weirdest 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.800 request is that I really do like I do like 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.040 really minerally water, So I ask for minerally water. 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:38.600 Well mostly I asked that because especially at the tonight show, 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.960 m M, I see the weirdest of riders when it 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:46.080 comes to like serious singers. Okay, I've seen the weirdest thing. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:54.840 One particular soul singer wanted onions, actual red onions, honey 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.639 garlic clothes like some people like they made. Shaka Khan's 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.840 ride is real, like as far as like the right. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.840 Well, she's like very connected to the earth, a little witchy. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.680 She's kind of making potions and she wants. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:16.399 I feel like she's back there, like trouble, Like, what 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.880 is your post like a cauldron of Yeah. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.439 I just like some manuka honey. I'll just take some 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:24.120 minuka honey. 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:24.440 Okay. 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.119 Yeah, it's very anti microbial healing. You can put it 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.280 on your face after you wash up your makeup. 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:34.800 I've seen that before Tarika. When he's on stage. One 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.679 of the funniest things I ever seen in my life is, 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.960 you know, he'll because like his voice is his most 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:45.560 important instrument, and you know he'll have like achanation and 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.800 like all these sprays and whatnot. But also there are 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:54.760 sprays that are like deodorant. Sprays are also in the 0:18:54.800 --> 0:19:01.600 same bottle hand sanitized. Our new tech version put the 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:07.239 deodor in one stage and oh it was like we 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:07.680 stopped this. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:10.680 It's hard to recover from. 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.000 So that's when I became more Yeah, I became more 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:15.760 aware of Yeah. 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:19.280 I travel with like a singer pouch though, so I 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.480 have my my things in it, like my vocal straws 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:26.359 and like singer sprays. Yeah, so we often like phone 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:33.320 eate through straws to kind of loosen up and you 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.200 can warm up that way, just like a little straw 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.760 that you can wear around your neck. It looks like 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.880 like a coke straw or something like. Someone has been like, oh, 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.359 is that a party thing? I'm like no, I'm a singer. 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:44.600 I never knew this existed. 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:51.040 Yeah, and you just to kind of like it's nice. 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.399 Okay, again, this is all super random, so it's like 0:19:53.480 --> 0:20:00.200 non sequitary. What is the most beautiful video? This is 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.760 a question I never asked before any artists. Oh wow, 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:07.480 what's the most beautiful video that you've ever seen? Music video? 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:08.680 Oh? 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:13.120 God, the way my memory is set up not right. 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.840 But I just want to call out something that I 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:22.040 just recently saw that Jacob Collier did And he's a 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.600 dear friend and one of my favorite artists, and he 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:29.199 did a video for this song that is also a 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:33.040 meditation and he's like flowed. It's a dream that many 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.960 of us have had, just flying, you know, And he 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.320 filmed it overseas and somehow they were able to like 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:40.760 maybe he was on a string or something. They you know, 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.080 got rid of the string. He's flying through the flying yeah, 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.000 And it's it was really touching because I had a 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.919 you know, reoccurring dream. I can't I hope to have 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.560 this dream again. A flying yeah, what is. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.720 Your reoccurring theme all in your dreams? 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.720 Lately it's been deep and I've been like bringing bringing 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.520 it to my therapists and been like, what's the tea here? 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:03.080 What's going on? 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.520 What's the object that's always in your dream? 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.920 Sharks? Lately about sharks, and you know what it is, 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:13.000 it's been mermaid. Yeah, I'm a mermaid. I identify as 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.680 a mermaid. Okay, No, I think the past couple dreams 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.040 have been deep ocean and fear of what's underneath. So 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:23.440 that's clearly my subconscious being like come hither, come get 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:26.200 to know me more. Else you're going to be afraid 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:31.399 of your you know, sea creatures coming and getting you 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.439 or whatever. So I can't say that I have like 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.760 a I used to have dreams of mummies like coming 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:43.280 up from the you know, depths and coming after me 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.880 and stuff, And most recently I had a zombie dream 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.120 which is similar. So I don't know what's going on. 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.200 Wow, your dreams are cool, like my dreams are dumb? 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:57.480 Like yeah, right, until thirty five, I was always about 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:01.960 to fail chemistry class. Really the way way past graduation. 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:06.880 I would wake up of like a final and I'm 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.400 like a mirror, you're thirty two years old, like you're 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.960