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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and it is a Friday, beautiful out

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Speaker 2: there this time next week. Well, guys working out on

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Speaker 2: the fields in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be driving home probably this time next week.

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Speaker 3: Give to take quite not quite? Yeah, in that neighborhood. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm in the shorts. I'm happiest. Could be. Let's go

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Speaker 3: Sunshine and Rady go to Indy.

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Speaker 2: You're always in shorts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am. My neighbors looking me crazy when I'm

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Speaker 3: out their shoveling snow and shorts and T shirt like

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Speaker 3: a sweatshirt, you know.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So a little news in the league today. Big

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Speaker 2: news the NFL releasing the salary cap figure for the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four season and it comes in at two

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Speaker 2: hundred hundred and fifty five point four million dollars. That

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Speaker 2: is an increase of thirty point six million dollars from

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Speaker 2: last year. It's a thirteen point six one percent increase,

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Speaker 2: which is the second largest increase in cap history. Behind

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and we were talking off there. If

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Speaker 2: you remember in twenty twenty one, coming out of the

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Speaker 2: COVID situation, or in the middle of the COVID situation

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Speaker 2: really twenty twenty two seasons.

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Speaker 3: First time I heard the word COVID, I was at

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Speaker 3: the combine.

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Speaker 2: That the salary cap went in twenty twenty it went

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Speaker 2: from one hundred and ninety eight point two million down

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Speaker 2: to one hundred and eighty two point five million because

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Speaker 2: of all the empty stadiums.

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Speaker 3: His concerns and uncertainty and right.

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Speaker 2: And we talked at that time. They did the new

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Speaker 2: the new CBA, and you know, COVID was going to

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Speaker 2: be there, the league was going to be coming out

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Speaker 2: of the COVID situation. Gambling revenues were going to start

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Speaker 2: to kick in the new TV deals, and we were

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Speaker 2: speculating at that time that the cap would be two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty plus million dollars in just a couple

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Speaker 2: of years. And well, here we are, it's.

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Speaker 3: About to that point. Yeah, I mean, we had some

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Speaker 3: a good conversation before. I mean, there was you said

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Speaker 3: we started covering the league, it was thirty million, It

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Speaker 3: was thirty I.

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Speaker 2: Have it was thirty four point six million, and what

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Speaker 2: year was at two nineteen ninety four?

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Speaker 3: Okay, when did it hit one hundred millions? I remember

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Speaker 3: that being a big deal.

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Speaker 2: In one hundred million in two thousand and six. So

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Speaker 2: it took over a decade for them to add seventy

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Speaker 2: million dollars.

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Speaker 3: And they've done that in ten years now.

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Speaker 2: Right, in the last two years, the cap has gone

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Speaker 2: up what is that about, almost fifty million dollars in

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Speaker 2: the last three years it's gone up. That's fifty five

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Speaker 2: over seventy million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Wow, so it took in the first well whatever. So

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Speaker 3: I always look at these things. I think the biggest

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Speaker 3: indicators of the health of the NFL as a whole

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Speaker 3: and which reflects on us who cover it and those

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Speaker 3: of you watching, et cetera, is what the franchises sell

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Speaker 3: for and what are the salary cap, and both those

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Speaker 3: things are going up and up and up and up

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Speaker 3: and up. The league is thriving and is very very healthy,

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Speaker 3: which is good news for you and me too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Looking here at the cap. Yeah, the highest cap.

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Speaker 2: The player with the highest cap number, oh going in

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Speaker 2: the next year is Deshaun Watson sixty three, almost sixty

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Speaker 2: four million dollars. They're on the.

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Speaker 3: Hook, and I think the following year is exactly the same.

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Speaker 2: Sixty four million dollars and then sixty four million dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's in a row, huck, and they may they're talking about,

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Speaker 2: well we make it, you know, restructure that side.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna make it higher.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna get that money. And it's at

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Speaker 3: some point. Yeah, they're just kicking the can down the

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Speaker 2: And the problem is is you can't extend him.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, you just make them more and more and more.

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Speaker 3: You just keep giving him signing bonus.

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Speaker 2: He's just keep doubling down on your mistake.

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Speaker 3: That's a tough one though. I mean, they made their bed.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel bad for it, No, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 3: But they have to look at it like we have

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Speaker 3: a better chance to win the super Bowl in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four than we do maybe in twenty six or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they went all in, and I can see

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Speaker 3: them pushing their chips in again. But boy, is it

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Speaker 3: going to get ugly in a year or two.

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Speaker 2: Here's the interesting thing about So I'm looking here at

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Speaker 2: spot wreck and they have the cap by year by year,

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Speaker 2: and so since twenty eleven, they've they've marked out who

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Speaker 2: was the highest cap number.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay in the league. Yeah. Yeah, it's not always

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Speaker 3: who made the most money that year, but who.

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Speaker 2: Had the highest cap number. So in twenty eleven, the

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Speaker 2: highest cap number belonged to Mark Sanchez, Wow, at seventeen

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Speaker 2: point two million dollars.

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Speaker 3: And we were probably having the same conversation about them.

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Speaker 3: What are they thinking? Was that with the Jets? Yes, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twelve it was Dwight Freeney at nineteen million, ok.

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Speaker 3: By the height of his powers at that point. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen it was Eli Manning and I can

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Speaker 2: swallow at twenty point eight five.

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Speaker 3: Still twenty Eli Manning the most expensive quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, and Dominic can sue, Oh that's what

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Speaker 2: he was at twenty two Does it say the team?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't, okay, because there was about a two or

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Speaker 3: three year stretch there. He was just a mercenary.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two point four million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Wow, okay, I mean he was great for a while.

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Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen, it was Drew Brees at twenty three

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Speaker 3: That too should be I mean it should be a

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame quarterback, you know.

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Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen, it was Eli Manning again, good work,

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Speaker 2: Eli agent, twenty four point two million.

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Speaker 3: Eli's agent still making him money too. They're doing something,

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Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen, it was Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's when he bet on himself. And twenty is

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Speaker 3: the elite h twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four point five to five million for Joe Flacco. In

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, Jimmy Garoppolo thirty seven million.

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Speaker 3: Dollars do you remember that? Ooh yeah ouch.

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Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, it was Matthew Stafford at thirty point seven.

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Speaker 3: That's why they end up trading him because he got

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Speaker 3: started to get really expensive.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, Dak Prescott thirty one point four and

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Speaker 2: a lot of these are when you sign your deal, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, like he might be one dollar more than

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Speaker 2: the quarterback befoum or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Then in twenty twenty one, it was Russell Wilson at

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Speaker 2: thirty two million, and.

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Speaker 3: He's still getting that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna mention him at some point in the next

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Speaker 3: two hours too.

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Speaker 2: But twenty twenty two it was Ryan tanney Hill at

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Speaker 2: thirty eight point six million.

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Speaker 3: Wow, and there are many Hall of famers on that list.

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Speaker 2: At twenty twenty three it was Patrick Mahomes thirty seven

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Speaker 2: point one million, and then Deshaun Watson for next is

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Speaker 2: double that, sixty three point ninety seven million. Like the

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Speaker 2: next is Ryan tanney Hill at thirty eight point six.

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Speaker 3: As the number one guy for that year. Yeah, that's nuts.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I mean Browns all be paying that for a long time.

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Speaker 3: I mean they'll be paying four.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're gonna pay for that because they even first

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Speaker 2: round pack the draft picks that they lost everything else.

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Speaker 2: So if we look at the numbers here on the cap.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned off the air, this move, now the Steelers

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Speaker 3: are cap compliant. Yeah. I mean that's without making one

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Speaker 3: other move.

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Speaker 2: I thought I had that up here, but I must have.

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Speaker 2: I got Salar cap. Let's see here, I had it up.

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Speaker 2: So if you look at where the Steelers are at now,

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Speaker 2: well I got to find this there. But they've got

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Speaker 2: about seven million.

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Speaker 3: To play with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, after without doing anything else.

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Speaker 3: And just making those three moves before, and they still

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Speaker 3: have a lot of stuff they can do, of course,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of other every other team benefited. Well,

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Speaker 3: of course, you know, the whole water level went up

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Speaker 3: for everybody or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But still, yeah, so the Commanders now have a league

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Speaker 2: best ninety six point four million dollars in cap space.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is is you got to spend spend

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Speaker 2: to a level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't just ignore it right right, Like,

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Speaker 3: and who would they extend or you know, if nobody

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Speaker 2: And they traded away they're two edge rushers because the

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Speaker 3: M hm, well, I mean, I mean they knew this

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Speaker 3: the plan. Maybe not to this level, maybe not to

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Speaker 2: You have the Patriots the Titans, they're both over, and

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Speaker 2: the Bears are all over eighty million.

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Speaker 4: Bears are picks and cap space, and yeah their colts

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Speaker 4: have seventy nine point two million, but they're always at

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Speaker 4: the top of this and they never spend it.

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Speaker 3: They never really spend it either. Yet I think they

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Speaker 3: spend just enough. I don't know if that's an ownership

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Speaker 3: thing or if they get the next Andrew Luck, will

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Speaker 3: they you know, will they extend Richardson and give him.

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Speaker 3: Will he be the highest one some day?

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Speaker 2: Going to be the next Andrew Luck? I know you

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Speaker 2: love him?

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Speaker 3: Oh I like him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he ain't going to be the next Andrew.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I mean, who's gonna be their big

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Speaker 3: ticket item? Like where will they spend their money someday?

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Speaker 3: Or they philosoftly against it.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals have seventy four point two, but they're kind

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Speaker 2: of like the Colts to a certain degree where they

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Speaker 2: just don't.

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Speaker 3: That's true, but they also have a couple of big.

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Speaker 2: Takes, a big ticket idea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Higgins and Chase. You're after.

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Speaker 2: You get the Texans at seventy three point nine, the

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Speaker 2: Lions was sixty five point seven.

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Speaker 3: Golf needs an extension though.

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Speaker 2: That's all fun, that's fine, but.

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Speaker 3: Still that's a good team like them and the Texans are.

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Speaker 3: You can still add a Final four team, Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: can still add yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then you have the Rams at fifty two million, the

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Speaker 2: Raiders at fifty five million, You have the Cardinals at

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Speaker 2: fifty seven million, the Bucks at forty eight million.

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Speaker 3: Then that's interesting because they got a couple of big

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Speaker 3: ticket items that you need to figure.

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Speaker 2: Out Carolina is forty two point eight million. The Vikings

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Speaker 2: are at forty point nine. They got to sign Jefferson

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Speaker 2: the Giants maybe, yeah, thirty eight point nine million for

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Speaker 2: the Giants. The Falcons are at forty one point nine

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm like, they cut mac.

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Speaker 2: Not that Deshaun Watson's not that Deshaun Watsons.

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Speaker 3: When you're trade for him, you're married, you know.

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Speaker 2: Really, you give up first round draft picks. They're still

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure. I mean, everybody just want something new

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be defense, defense, defense.

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Speaker 2: At some point you're going to start flipping that because

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Speaker 2: You got you get the bang for the buck out

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Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lalli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt changing gears here from the salary cap stuff.

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Speaker 2: And these guys will only help your salary cap if

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Speaker 2: finding them. Yeah, you can't find them, but.

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Speaker 3: He does a great job. His father was the Steelers

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's based out of Houston. Knows the stuff.

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Speaker 2: So looking at the way that they have that NFL

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Speaker 2: Neighbors has a six point eight sixth grade and Harrison

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00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 2: has a six point eight three. So they think they're

447
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,879
Speaker 2: both going to be stars because if you look at

448
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 2: their grading system, their.

449
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 3: Grading systems very NFL like and I should know it

450
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 3: better than I do. Yeah, I think it's very dumb,

451
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,120
Speaker 3: to be honest.

452
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 2: With you, It really is, because they go mean.

453
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 3: Different things and they go from.

454
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,479
Speaker 2: An eight is the perfect prospercato. I've never seen anybody

455
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 2: get an Atoh no, right right, A seven point three

456
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,480
Speaker 2: to seven point five is a perennial all pro. Well,

457
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,440
Speaker 2: why what is a seven point five to eight, it's

458
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 2: right right, right?

459
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,119
Speaker 3: What if who's a seven to seven? This is impossible? Grade?

460
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 2: Does eight walk on water? I can sell?

461
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,760
Speaker 3: I think it's with a third pick, we take offensive

462
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,120
Speaker 3: tackle christ Jesus from Nazareth State.

463
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, a seven point oh to seven point one. And again,

464
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: what's what's the seven point one to a seven point two?

465
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:54,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

466
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 2: Is a Pro Bowl talent.

467
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,640
Speaker 3: As opposed to a perennial Pro Bowl talent? Yeah? These

468
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 3: were created and Pro Bowls were hard to get to too. Yeah,

469
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 3: you know, so.

470
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 2: A six point seven to a six point nine. Again,

471
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: there's a gap. There is a year one starter.

472
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what's funny not to ruin the whole exercise,

473
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 3: but there are some grades just for the player they

474
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 3: think can start now as opposed to could become a

475
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 3: perennial Pro bowler. You know. So that kind of stuff's cool,

476
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 3: but it's confusing, and I can't believe why not just

477
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 3: go one to one hundred? I don't you know what

478
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 3: I mean? There's ABCD. I mean, there's a lot of

479
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 3: other grading scales in the world that work just fine.

480
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 2: A six point five to six point sixth grade is

481
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 2: boom or bus potential.

482
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 3: Like George Pickens, I bet was that. Yeah, you're coming

483
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 3: off an injury, you know, but massive talent. If he hits,

484
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 3: he hits huge. I mean there's a lot of those examples.

485
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 2: A six point four to six point four to nine

486
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 2: is a guy that will become a good starter within

487
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: two years. A six point three to zero to a

488
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 2: six point thirty nine is a guy that will eventually

489
00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 2: be a.

490
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 3: Plus start, Okay, which is less than eventually just becoming

491
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 3: a starter within two years. It's a lower grade. Yeah,

492
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 3: plus starters are better than eventual starters in my book.

493
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, uh, a six point two oh to

494
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 2: a six point twenty nine will actually will eventually be

495
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 2: an average starter. A six point one to oh to

496
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 2: a six point one nine is a good backup with

497
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 2: the potential developed to develop into a starter. A six

498
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: point oh to a six point nine is traits or

499
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: talented ben above average backup.

500
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 3: Like everyone drafted is between a six oh and a

501
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 3: six nine. I mean, like if you yeah, I mean,

502
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 3: if you're drafting someone in the six or seventh round,

503
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 3: do you think they can eventually become a backup? Probably

504
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 3: maybe or a true special team or like I don't know.

505
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: I think the system's really weird.

506
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: Five point eight oh to a five point nine nine

507
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: is an average backup or special teamer. A five point

508
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: six to oh to a five point sixty nine is

509
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: a candidate for the bottom of the roster of practice squad.

510
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: Uh and a five point five oh to A five

511
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: point five nine is priority undrafted free agent and no

512
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: grade is the grade is not yet available.

513
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: So there are some things too, like this is nerdy

514
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 3: and I don't know it as well as I should

515
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 3: because I don't care too, to be honest with you,

516
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 3: because I'm not in a war room. But there's a

517
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 3: lot of things. If you have this red flag, you

518
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: can be a six to three, but you can't be

519
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: a six to two, you know, like character stuff or

520
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 3: medical or whatever. You know, Like there's only certain spots

521
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: you can end up.

522
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: And there are some players on these lists that they

523
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 2: look at they give that grade between six point four

524
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 2: and six point five as the boom er bus guy

525
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: who they have rated ahead of some of the other guys.

526
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you still might be your third corner, yeah yeah.

527
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 3: And obviously it's all they don't have the luxury doing

528
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 3: it for each team too. Yeah.

529
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 2: So their highest graded players are neighbors in Harrison. Caleb

530
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: Williams has a six point seven sixth grade. Brock Bauer

531
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: is a six point seven to five grade.

532
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 3: Which, again people probably think Williams gonna the first overall pick.

533
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: He's got a six to seven out of a possible eight.

534
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: You would think that's not a very good grade. Yeah,

535
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: but it's the third best in the whole class.

536
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. Brock Bowers comes in six point seven five,

537
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: Roma Dunes a six point seven to four.

538
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 3: Those three receivers are prety darn strong. Yeah.

539
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: Then you have jayde and Daniels at six point seven

540
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: to three. As a mover, May Yeah, May gets to

541
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: six point five boom or bust.

542
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: Okay maybe you know. Yeah, I mean his season wasn't tremendous.

543
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jared Versy six point seven to one.

544
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: Okay. Then you have j C.

545
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: Latham six point seven.

546
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh, he's really high on Latham. The one thing I

547
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: did do is I clicked on the tackles because I

548
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: mean he's, you know, the Dad's O line coach. I

549
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: mean I trust him for OH line stuff more.

550
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: Than I'm a big Latham getting chop Robinson six point

551
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: seven Oh.

552
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: I'm pretty high for him.

553
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Fashanu six point five. Oh, so there's a

554
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: gap there, there's no six, there's no.

555
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 3: Latham's number one, not Alt. I mean it's lath from

556
00:23:59,400 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: number one.

557
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: Alt is a six point four nine. He's got a

558
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: boomer bust on ALT.

559
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: I don't quite understand.

560
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: I don't understand it either, but they do. Yeah, same

561
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: thing with lay two. Uh, same thing with Drake May,

562
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: same thing with Terry and Arnold is six point four

563
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: to nine a boomer bust. Okay, Uh, same thing with

564
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: Talasi Fuaga a boomer bust. I don't see that either.

565
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 3: Some people are worried about his length at right tackle.

566
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: He doesn't have super long arms, and maybe he's a guard.

567
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a guard at all watching him. No,

568
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: I mean he's just six y six good protector. I

569
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: mean his arms aren't stumpy. H.

570
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: Then you have Byron Murphy a six point four eight

571
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 2: boomer bust, Dallas Turner six point four eight boomer bust,

572
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 2: Graham Barton six point six point four to six, which

573
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: puts him in the boomer bust.

574
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: That's ahead of Johnson Power Johnson.

575
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, Nate Wiggins six point four to six. Are

576
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 2: Marius Mims six point four five, which I kind of

577
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: get that one.

578
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he's just a boom. There's

579
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: not a lot of tape to go off yet.

580
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: Austin Booker edge Rusher out of Kansas a six point

581
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: four to four. That's as high as I've seen him

582
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: on anybody's.

583
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: I haven't seen him mocked in like the top two

584
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: rounds by anyone that I remember.

585
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 2: Uh, Tyler Geyton six point four to four.

586
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: Okay, bo Nick's six.

587
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: Point four to three. And I was earlier today. I

588
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: can't think of his name though, the former quarterback of

589
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: No No No I.

590
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 3: It's in the Hall of Fame, for God's sakes.

591
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: No Game for the Rams and the can Okay, I'm

592
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: just blanking here. I'm picturing his face.

593
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

594
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: I just said the Rams and the Cardinals and.

595
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: Warner Warner, God Lord. Uh one than we thought. Yeah.

596
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: He tweeted something out today. He said he was watching

597
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: film of the guy in this the quarterbacks in this class,

598
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: and he said it's really hard to look at these

599
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 2: guys and and and figure out whether they'll be good

600
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: pros or not, because everything in college is first read

601
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: or bubble screen bubble and somebody asked them about Nix

602
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 2: and he says, I haven't even gotten the nick yet.

603
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: Nix is the king of the bubble screen. Like, I

604
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: don't people who were in love with this guy. I'm like,

605
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: completion percentage based on one he only does this to

606
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: bubble screens.

607
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you saw any of the

608
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: dj uh with beat writer transcript whole thing. Okay, i'd

609
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: I listened to the podcast version they put it out,

610
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 3: and he said something along when someone asked him, you know,

611
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: progression reading is so important at the quarterback position.

612
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: They don't do it.

613
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, And I don't know who I

614
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: can comment intelligently about. You know, who goes who gets

615
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: their third read in college? Never? Never, I mean, especially

616
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: you're a big time program. Someone's open or or you

617
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 3: just wing it or thrown anything.

618
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: Pennix with those three receivers ever got to his third read.

619
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: No one of the first two were open.

620
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 4: Oh man, if they weren't, he threw it anyways.

621
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: Daniels has two first runs. Yeah, receivers. You know, Nix

622
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: has a good group.

623
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 4: I mean it's there's always be somebody he just throws

624
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 4: all these Ohio State guys.

625
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh so, then six point four two is Quinya

626
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: Mitchell little boom bust there?

627
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh?

628
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: Fatano at six point four to one, Brian Thomas at

629
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 2: six point four one, Troy Franklin, the wide receiver out

630
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: of Oregon six point four.

631
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, DJ was talking about how he thinks he's too

632
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: low on his board. He keeps moving Franklin up.

633
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: Kool Aid McKinstry six point four.

634
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: I'm really interested in his testing. Yeah, he doesn't seem

635
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: like a great athlete to me.

636
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: And then to Andandre Sweat is the last of the

637
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: six fours. Okay, it's in the six threes. Sixty three nine.

638
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, who knows, uh, Darius Robinson okay, Jonathan Brooks

639
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: the running back is six point three eight.

640
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 3: That's an injury designation, but.

641
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jatavian Sanders another Texas six point three eight.

642
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: Cooper with their skill guys, two receivers and tight end

643
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: in a running back going to be Day two picks

644
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: at worst.

645
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: Then you had Cooper b b the guard out of

646
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: k State is a six point three seven, as is

647
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: Junior Colson, the linebacker out of Michigan, Lad mcconkee.

648
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: So that's his first off the ball lineback.

649
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 2: Lad McConkie at Donnie Mitchell also a six three seven.

650
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean that's that first round, second round

651
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 3: turn Neighborhood in there.

652
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: At the six three sixth level Jordan Morgan, Jerson Newton,

653
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: Enus Regstraw. Yeah, soose three at a six three five

654
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: Malachai Corley, Roman Wilson.

655
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: Who I'd prefer those.

656
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: That's a tough call.

657
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, they're different.

658
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: It's six three four two guys my two favorite guys

659
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: in the draft, Cooper dejen and Jackson Powers Johnson.

660
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: That sure seems very low for both of that.

661
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at it again. A six y three four.

662
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: You're looking at a guy in that range will eventually

663
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: be a plus starter, is what we're saying about those two.

664
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: I don't agree with you either one of them being

665
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: in that category. Uh.

666
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: It's six ' three to three Tyler Nuban.

667
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: I would think he's safer than that too. Yeah.

668
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: DJ James comes in at sixty three.

669
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: Okay. I need to do more homework on him. He

670
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: looks like a round two guy all day long.

671
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: The problem is he with rocks in his pockets. He's

672
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy pounds.

673
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he could be available when the Steelers picking

674
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: the second round, and if you went a different position

675
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: in the first round, they need to know more about him.

676
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins comes in at sixty three. Key On Coleman

677
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 2: at six two nine, kamarw on him, yeah, Kamari Lassiter

678
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: at six two nine, Eddrian Cooper at six two eight,

679
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: Braden Fisk six to two eight, Jalen Wright, the running

680
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: back out of Tennessee at six two eight.

681
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: He's gonna fly by the way. Yeah, the combines would

682
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: be good for him.

683
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: At six two seven. Jermaine Burton Christian Haynes.

684
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: Burton's a receiver out of Bama.

685
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: Remember, these guys in this range are still guys who

686
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: are going to be plus starters.

687
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't feel so confident about this group.

688
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: But Okay, Blake Fisher the tackle out of Notre Dame

689
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: six two six, as is Kamari Kinchins.

690
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: He's very high on Fisher. I mean again, I just

691
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: looked at his tackle stuff. He's I mean, at the

692
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: highest I've seen him on.

693
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: And Penn State center Hunter nor Zad got him is

694
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: that's actually third rated center Wow.

695
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about him. I mean he's a

696
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: one year starter. I assume because Frugs was there last year.

697
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: Right, I was reading about that. They said, if you

698
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: turn on his tape against Ohio State, I guess he

699
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: did does well.

700
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: Okay.

701
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: Ricky Piarsaw at six two six, Malik Washington's a six

702
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: two six, and then you have Chris Abrams drain As

703
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: a six two five.

704
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: It's not about the neighborhood for receivers.

705
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some there's some corners in here.

706
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, around three guys.

707
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah at six two five. Also six two five is

708
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: Yale offensive tackle jay Von Baker. This is the wide

709
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: receiver out of UCF.

710
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, player Chris.

711
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: Braswell, Wow, that's low and braswell, Michael Pennix, Well, that's

712
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: really low in Penix too, and Cedric van Pran.

713
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 3: Okay, he's kind of heavy footed.

714
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: Uh. Looking at the six two four's, you've got.

715
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: Rucrojo Okay, I'm a fan.

716
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm pronouncing.

717
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 3: Rucas right. Ruc is right?

718
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: Yes, Uh, Patrick Paul and Zach zinter Zenters.

719
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a hard one for him to write out.

720
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

721
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

722
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: At six two three Andrew Gold, wide receiver out of

723
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: Oregon State.

724
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the name. I don't know very well either.

725
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: Adisa Isaac the ed rusher out of Penn State at

726
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: six two two is Kaylin Carson, the cornerback out of

727
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: Wake Forest.

728
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: This is a neighborhood. I need to study more.

729
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, you got the guard out of Utah satahou

730
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: lamua me I should say. Max Melton is six to

731
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: two one.

732
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a fan of his.

733
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: Braylen Trice a six to two to one.

734
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: It's low. That's low. Not super athletic.

735
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: Uh. Camal Hadden cornerback out of Tennessee is a six

736
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: to two.

737
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, nice.

738
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: Uh you got Florida State defensive tackle Fabian Love. It

739
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: is a six to two. Oh. Mike santistrel very low

740
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: for him. Six to two. Oh uh, it's below six

741
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: to it. And now I remember, now we're getting into

742
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: that area where if you're below six to two, oh,

743
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: good back up with prevent potential to develop into a starter.

744
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: So that's these guys from Yeah, yeah.

745
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: Draft them, sit them for a year, work them in

746
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: the mix. That type of thing.

747
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: Trey Benson, the running back out of Florida. But yeah,

748
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: Matt Goneclaves the offensive tackle out of Pitt.

749
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: I heard Lance talking to him up on a podcast.

750
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: He's pretty intrigued him. I mean, obviously Steelers are gonna

751
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: know a time. Yeah, but he's a name to know,

752
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: especially the pitt Ties.

753
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: Michael Hall, junior defensive tackle. Pretty low on him out

754
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: of Ohio State. He's undersized, you.

755
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: Get pushed around a little bit. Uh.

756
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: Then you're looking at Marcus Harris, defensive tackle out of Auburn.

757
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: De Vontes Walker.

758
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: Wow, he's pretty rough on him.

759
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. McKay Wingo, the big defensive tackle out of LSU.

760
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: You've mentioned a lot of defensive tackles in this neighborhood.

761
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: In this neighborhood, it might be fourth.

762
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: Round for the Steelers, could make some sense.

763
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: Uh. At six one eight, Javon Bullard m jay Von Foster,

764
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle out of Missouri.

765
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, some really like him. And somewhere into hi.

766
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: On Marshawn Lloyd the running back out of USC Gabriel Murphy,

767
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: edge rusher out of UCLA.

768
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: A lot of running backs in this neighborhood too. Yeah.

769
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: Andrew Phillips, the cornerback out of Kentucky, Dominic Pooney, the

770
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: guard from Kansas, Dwayne Carter, the defensive tackle from Duke,

771
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: Oudrick steam A, the running back from Notre Dame, Bucking

772
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving, the running back from Oregon. Xavier Legette six

773
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: one seven from South Carolina. Yeah, some people were talking

774
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: about him in the first round.

775
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been getting a lot of buzz for well

776
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: over a year now. I don't see standout traits with him. Yeah.

777
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: Kittan all of Gazappo. I didn't pronounce that right. The

778
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: safety out of Oregon State. Brandon Dorius, defensive end out

779
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: of Oregon.

780
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: A lot of peoplere high on him.

781
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: Cam Hart is a six one six, Yeah, the cornerback

782
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 2: out of Notre Dame. I reading about surgery on both shoulders.

783
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: I think he has some more injury stuff than I

784
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: knew a couple of days ago. Yeah.

785
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: Brennan Jackson, edge rusher out of Washington State. Neamyah Pritchett

786
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: the other Auburn quarterback. Will Shipley the running back from

787
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: Clemson and then pursued his guy, Peyton Wilson's a six

788
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: one six. It's gonna be an issue.

789
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: It's gonna be issue.

790
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: Some other guys here who are in that area. Javier

791
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: Worthy really, Blake corm Through half running back. Yeah, Isaac Grendo,

792
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: running back out of Louisville.

793
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 3: Some people get pretty excited about him.

794
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: Jayden Hicks is a six to one five.

795
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: He's getting a lot of second round buzz. Uh.

796
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: Elijah Jones, cornerback out of Boston College.

797
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: I've heard good things about him.

798
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 2: Seven interceptions last two years. Yeah, takes the ball away

799
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: a little bit. So Isaiah Adams guard out of Illinois,

800
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: Eric All tight end out of Iowa, can never go

801
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 2: with Yeah, Steel Chambers the linebacker out of Ohio State.

802
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: Isaiah days Ago.

803
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: Then Yeah, a couple of running backs here, Isaiah Davis

804
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: and Ray Davis.

805
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: One of them is Kentucky Ray right and.

806
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: The other one South Dakota State. Then you have Tyler Davis.

807
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 2: So three in a row. How about that from Clemson.

808
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: The defensive tackle. Another six to one four is I

809
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: was Harden, cornerback from South Dakota. And then James Williams,

810
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: the safety out of Miami. And then after that, I

811
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: mean there's some there's some names that are even from.

812
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm sure, and he does the Jusse's post combat.

813
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: Oh Bishop Jarvis Brownlee, Caleb Bullock.

814
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: There's some mixed opinion on Bullock.

815
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: Zach Fraser's all the way down at six one to two.

816
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 3: That I don't get it all. I mean, I think

817
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: he's the starting center day one, six one two.

818
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's got him behind the Penn State Center.

819
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: And and say there hasn't been many centers that made

820
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: the list. I mean he's the fifth. I think if

821
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: we count, Barton is a sentence. Yeah, yeah, Barton was

822
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: one Powers Johnson's two. He was low on Powers Johnson

823
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 3: and Fraser.

824
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. And in DJ's mock draft he had Fraser going

825
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: in the first round. Yeah, at twenty nine to Detroit.

826
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. They're good buddies too. They talk a lot. I

827
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: wonder if they found back and forth on Fraser down,

828
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: goes Fraser.

829
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: Down, goes Fraser.

830
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: So people it out, Yeah, click on each one and

831
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: you'll get a short write up. You don't have to

832
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 3: nerd out too much.

833
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: But it's a little different than some of us. There's

834
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: some new different names on there that we hadn't seen.

835
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think Lances goes in a dark room

836
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: and churns these things out a couple of day, doesn't

837
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: listen to consensus or any that kind of stuff, which

838
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 3: is the way to do it. Really, It is your opinions,

839
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 3: and then after the combine, all their measurables will be on.

840
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: Here right so that you get to work out stuff

841
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: on there if you can find it. It's a very

842
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: useful too. Anyway, let's get to another break. He is

843
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

844
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with

845
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

857
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Speaker 2: and Matt. In addition to sending out the salary, setting

858
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: the salary caplain and releasing that information everybody, the league

859
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: also put out the franchise tag and transition tag numbers.

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00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I think we speculated on them before.

861
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: Can guess on that. Yeah, these are the official numbers,

862
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: and teams have until four o'clock March fifth to tag

863
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: a player.

864
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean so Tuesday was when it was allowed. Yeah,

865
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 3: so they must have got the numbers. Now it's they're

866
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: letting us know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the quarterback is thirty eight point three million. Yeah,

868
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: at running back it's eleven point nine to five million.

869
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: That's the lowest, right, besides kickers and punters. Pretty short, yeah, yeah.

870
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: Wide receiver is twenty one point eight one six.

871
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: It's not insane.

872
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: Tight end is twelve point six nine three.

873
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: That's a heckler bargain for a big time tight end.

874
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Offensive lineman and they don't designate the position twenty

875
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: point nine to eighty five million.

876
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: They're never going to tag it into your guy, right, never.

877
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: Defensive end twenty one point three to two four million.

878
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 3: That's not insane.

879
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: The quite the problem becomes and it just isn't the

880
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: issue that he used to be here because we'll get

881
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: to this in a second. Defensive tackle is twenty two

882
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: point one to oh two million. Linebacker is twenty four

883
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: point seven million. If you remember a few years ago

884
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: when the Steelers tagged Bud Dupree, they tagged him as

885
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 2: a linebacker. Oh yeah, and he filed a grievance about

886
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: it because the linebacker tag, which was way cheaper, way

887
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: lower than defensive end. That's flipped.

888
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: He had a he had a beef. I mean, he's

889
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: much more of a defensive end than he is a linebacker. Yeah,

890
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: but over the last couple of years, Rokwan Edmunds Warner,

891
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: there's another name, oh Moseley. Yeah, those guys are making.

892
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: Guys got paid huge money. I mean so it's the

893
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: top five average. Those guys are all making about that

894
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: kind of money.

895
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and well Watts would be considered in that as well.

896
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: Now is he a linebacker, He's considered a linebackers, Yeah, so, uh, cornerback.

897
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: Cornerback is nineteen point eight oh two million.

898
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: Okay, I think Johnson's gonna get it. I think Steve

899
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: might get it.

900
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: Safety is seven point one two three million.

901
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: That's phenomenal.

902
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: Nobody's going to pay that though. First most safety is hitting.

903
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 3: The Oh no, right, but I mean if you have

904
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: a MAKA, you could just franchise.

905
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: Him, and I mean that's basically what he's making now

906
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: right now.

907
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: I mean it's a bargain. Yeah, he kind of gets

908
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: screwed at that position.

909
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: Uh. Kicker punter is five point nine eighty four. That's

910
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: why there's there's never been a franchise punter. No, there

911
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: has been franchise kickers.

912
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So safety's well below running back. Running

913
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 3: back was at eleven. Safety is only seven ish.

914
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: No, it's seventeen.

915
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: Oh it's seventeen. Okay, I misunderstood you that. Yeah, disregard

916
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: all the nonsense I said after that.

917
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: The transition tag tenders. Quarterback is three point he's a cheaper,

918
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: but three point thirty four point three sixty seven. The

919
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: running back is nine point seven sixty five. Receiver nineteen

920
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: point seven sixty six, tight end ten point eight, Offensive

921
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: lineman nineteen million, still pretty pretty pricey. Defensive end is

922
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: nineteen million, still pretty pricey. Defensive tackle eighteen point four

923
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: to nine, linebackers nineteen point nine to seven. Cornerbacks seventeen

924
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: point two, safety is thirteen point eight, and kicker and

925
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: punter is five point four three three, So that's not

926
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: much cheaper either.

927
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 3: We don't see the transition tag.

928
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: You don't see it used very much because all that

929
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: does is give you the first right of refusal. Yeah,

930
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 2: so all you're doing, really, you're you're allowing somebody else

931
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: to set the price for you.

932
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: Wasn't Lamar transitioned.

933
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: No, he was.

934
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 3: He was franch He was definitely franchise.

935
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was at the lower level though, because there

936
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: are different levels of franchise. You can do exclusive rights.

937
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: Yes, where you get first round picks, or you can

938
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: do that.

939
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: You can you know, allow them to talk with other

940
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: people and give two first round picks. You also, which

941
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: is going to be interesting, are you know some of

942
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: the numbers for the restricted free agents when those come out?

943
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: Because you can also put a first round tender on

944
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: a guy.

945
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: Sometimes is a difficult conversation.

946
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, a second round tender or you know, matched around,

947
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: which becomes an issue when the guy wasn't drafted.

948
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a Warren situation coming Up's.

949
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: Exactly who I was thinking of, Like, you know, do

950
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: you do you put a second round tender on Jaylen Warren.

951
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: Probably, which is a nice bump for him.

952
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: But he's going to make like five million dollars, not

953
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: this year but next.

954
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: Year to think about it. Yeah right, No, he's the

955
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: type of guy he would even as a running back.

956
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if somebody makes him an offer, you just say, okay,

957
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: well we'll take the second round.

958
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 3: We'll take a second round pick. Yeah, yeah, no, I

959
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: think that assures you. Who knows, we'll see where he's at.

960
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: But I would think that's where he falls.

961
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: I would probably guess that because do a same round

962
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: tender on him because he was undrafted and you get

963
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: nothing back.

964
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's about where he falls.

965
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So those are the numbers. We're going to take

966
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lawley.

967
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

968
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Speaker 2: That's going to do it for our number one. We

969
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Speaker 2: will be back with our number two right after this