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Speaker 1: I am an addict, I can say too, but like

421
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: I I don't know, Um, I don't know. It's just

422
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: a problem I made to myself. And I just feel

423
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: like I never went a day without drinking. So it

424
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: was important for me to kind of, you know, see

425
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: if I can do it, and I just stopped. That's awesome.

426
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: Good for you. Yeah, has been supportive with that for sure.

427
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, like Matt and I have a long history,

428
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: right because we dated back in season when it was

429
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: my season, my second season, Season three of Dancing and

430
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: starts like twenty five years ago. It feels like met

431
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: him through his older brother Joey Lawrence when he did

432
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: the show. Um, and so I back then, I was

433
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: like it was a big blur because like I come

434
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: from like the competition world where you're like an Olympian, right,

435
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: training every single day, and then you come on a

436
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: show like this, and yes it's rigorous the schedule, but

437
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: it's not like competition worlds, you know, So like it

438
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: was a get out of jail free card for me,

439
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: and it was like I never went to college, so

440
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: this was my college years here, um in Los Angeles,

441
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: just like going out seven nights a week. Um. Matt,

442
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, he was already in the business since he

443
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: was a little boy. Um, so he already went out

444
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: and he was done with that whole club you know,

445
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: nightlife scene, I guess from when he was like sixteen seventeen,

446
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'm just getting started, and

447
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: so well it only lasted like six to eight months.

448
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: I went out in hardcore for like ten years, and

449
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: then finally I was like, you cannot pay me to

450
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 1: go out anymore. And Matt was waiting totally. And by

451
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: the way, we broke up and we didn't even run

452
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: into each other at a Ralph's, Like it was ten

453
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: years like and we lived, I know, and then we

454
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: just like, so, how did you guys come back together?

455
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 1: Was it? Did you reach out? Did he reach out?

456
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: What happened? My little sister like loves Matt, So she goes,

457
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: whatever happened to Matt? When I was like just you know,

458
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: trying to date and it's kind of impossible here in

459
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, you know, so she's like, well, whatever happened

460
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: to Matt? We love him, and um, She's like, give

461
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: me your phone and I'm like, wait, don't you dare

462
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: text him? And she texted him and she was like,

463
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: merried Christmas. And then he responded right away and he's like, oh,

464
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: we should have dinner. I thought for sure he was

465
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: married already. I had no idea, right, and then we

466
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: had dinner and I was like, Okay, we're gonna do

467
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: this then, right, We're not gonna waste each other's time,

468
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: Like we're not just here to have dinner. You're like,

469
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: I want to marriage, I want kids, I want also.

470
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: I basically threatened him, and we got married amazing, familiar

471
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: it happily. Ever, that's the only way, No, it's absolutely

472
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: that's Uh. How is he with with the dancing stuff

473
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: and and and that I know just from Jane doing

474
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: her season, how demanding it that is in the time,

475
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: So like during the season when you are grinding out

476
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: basically every day, how is he during that process and

477
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: not being around you so much? I mean, I swear

478
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: this is why we got married. He's just he gets it,

479
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: like he totally gets it because he's in the same world. Right,

480
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: So when he back in the day when you shoot movies, right,

481
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: you would like go out and go and travel and

482
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: be gone for a couple of months at a time.

483
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody would really understand unless if

484
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 1: you're in the business. And he's so supportive and right now,

485
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: like he got we have a new little puppy that

486
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: we treat like it's a human, little human running around everywhere,

487
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: and he's so he's so great, like he's gonna be

488
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: such a great fall other one day. So he's he's

489
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: so supportive, makes me breakfast and make sure that I'm

490
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: like healthy and mentally healthy. You know, you know how

491
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: the show is gets to you. How do you How

492
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: do you guys stay connected when y'all schedules because you can't.

493
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: It is so demanding when both your other work and

494
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: doing that. What do you guys do to stay connected? Therapy? Like, Actually,

495
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm serious, because it's like you have, like I said,

496
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: a time right, So I'm very like calendar or like

497
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: I am just like to the t right um, and

498
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: so I need to block out time and schedule it.

499
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: You have to schedule. I think you have to be

500
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: mindful of scheduling time to be together because honestly, every

501
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: day your everyday life can just take over and you

502
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: haven't even made eye contact. I love that. What do

503
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: you guys, like, what's what's your biggest struggle in y'all's communication? Communication?

504
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: But else? Oh okay, so who's like what who struggles were? As? Like,

505
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: both of you guys aren't good a communication? Yeah, I

506
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: mean I'll take just as much fault. Sure. I mean,

507
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: like it's not really a bad thing. I think it's

508
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: good that we're talking about it right first of all.

509
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: But then like he tends to hold in his feelings

510
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: like a typical dude, you know, and I'm like diarrhea

511
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: of the mouth. So I'm just like everything I feel

512
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: I have to get out or else it's gonna eat

513
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: me alive. And then then I'll I don't want to

514
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: cause like I don't want resentment to build. So it's

515
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: like if I hold something in and I don't like

516
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: say it right away, but then sometimes I'll react and

517
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: my reaction isn't great, you know, So like I need

518
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: to I'm learning now just to think about the actual

519
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: feeling as to why I'm being triggered too. Then Okay,

520
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: maybe I need to just like listen, I'm trying to

521
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: be a better listener and not just like react. Isn't

522
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: that so hard? They're like not to react when you're

523
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: in that moment. It's hard to just like take a

524
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: second because you know and even like something. You know, Mike,

525
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: we I mean we both worked on it, but like

526
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: Mike too will be like if we just take a minute,

527
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: we're not going to have like the big explosion. I know.

528
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's it's so easy to like it

529
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: so easily avoidable. But yeah, we have such a hard

530
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: like it's like I black out, Janna, Like I seriously

531
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: like I have this like, oh my god, it's like

532
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: a crazy ass feeling that I feel like I have

533
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: to say. I can't even either it's like me walking away,

534
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: which is also something I shouldn't do right or like

535
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: him then just like knocking on my door and I'm

536
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: like I just need a minute. I just need a minute.

537
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: But then like I get it, like I get both sides.

538
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: I totally see it. Um, but it's really hard for

539
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: me to buy my tongue. But I'm really learning. I'm trying.

540
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm meditating twice a day now, and it's

541
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: like it does help me, like just to chill. It

542
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: is funny. I mean we Jane and I were just

543
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: going at it was that yesterday, yeah, I think it

544
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: was yesterday office. Would you say you're kept ching? Yeah,

545
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: I kept chirping. We were getting We kind of got

546
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: on each other about something and it was a moment

547
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: where Janna was able to compose and keep yourself composed initially,

548
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: and I just kind of kept chirping away and we

549
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: put our computer screens. We have desks that face each other,

550
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: and we blocked each other with our screens the way

551
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: by the way that you moved your computer so funny.

552
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: I was, I don't look at you. And in that

553
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: moment when I kept chirping and finally I stopped chirping,

554
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: I was just I wanted to plant my flag. There's

555
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: no way I'm saying sorry, like I didn't do anything wrong,

556
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: and just lettings go by, right, and I like start breathing.

557
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: How different your thought is in thought process where Janna

558
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: heard me like breathing, and she was like, are you

559
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: ready say sorry yet? And I moved my screen. We

560
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: had a good laugh. I was like, well, it's about

561
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: to until you just asked me if I was ready

562
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: say sorry, say like I can't. It's hard for me

563
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: to say sorry, and that's not good. It's my ego, right,

564
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: So it's like I just like and when I do,

565
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: it's so listen, I'm super monotone. So when I'm happy,

566
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm like this, sad, like this angry like this, like

567
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't really like but he's so like animated and

568
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: like it's like talking from his diaphragm, and like when

569
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: he yelled, it's so like singing opera, like yo, man, chill,

570
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: like I get literally like everybody in the neighbors can

571
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: hear you, right, And like I'm just like this and

572
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: so like and then I feel I'm like when you

573
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: when he yells as a trigger for me, I think,

574
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: So then I'm like I just either stop or I like.

575
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: But then I'm like deadly. I'm silent, but deadly, like

576
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: I'll say some evil under my breath, right, I know

577
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: you too, That's okay? Sorry, sorry no, but I mean no,

578
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: but I mean the same. I mean, shoot, we've we've

579
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: all been there. I mean we we both have said

580
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: things that we wish we could take that way, you know,

581
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: because in those moments, you just your pain is speaking

582
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: not the truth, you know, it's just it's just wanting

583
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: to hurt because you and I think that's something that

584
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: we realized to it and it's your thoughts. It's just

585
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: your thoughts. It's like your own perception and reality of

586
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: what you think it is when it's probably not what

587
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: your partner is thinking. Relationships, it's it's a lot. So

588
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: let me ask you this show, going back to Dancing

589
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: the Stars for a second. You know, you deal with

590
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: having a new partner every year in that kind of

591
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: environment together so much how I mean, just from watching

592
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: Janna and Gleb and Janna coming home and bitching about

593
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: Glad and being like you're such an asshole today and

594
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: every day it seemed like a relationship like during that time.

595
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: So do you find yourself like with these people, you're

596
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: you're in this relationship with them that gets you know,

597
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: you get contested with each other, you get emotional with

598
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: each other, you get angry, you get sad, you get okay.

599
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: So for me, it's like an arrange marriage, right, you

600
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: have no choice unfortunately sometimes right, So it's like you're

601
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: paired up with this person and I give this person

602
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: and I've had twenty three of them, Okay, so I

603
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: give them my feel, and it's like it's never what

604
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: people first of all, it has no it's not like

605
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: as sexy as people think it is. Us dry humping

606
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: like this seven days a week, right, Like it's not

607
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: really sexy, especially because like, look, there's some men and

608
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself that come on the

609
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: show and hate to be coached or um. This is

610
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: why I prefer athletes a lot, because as they don't

611
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: care a man woman, they love being coached and that's

612
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: all they know. So they're gonna just take the actual note,

613
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: do it, and then think about it when they go

614
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: home and then come back a better dancer. Then you've

615
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: got the emotional like actors, right, I'm married, I'm married.

616
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: I'm married an actor like I love, but like sometimes

617
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: on this show, like you have to be vulnerable, like

618
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, what you've done. Like,

619
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: if you're going to come on this show, the only

620
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: way to do this is to either make fun of

621
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: ballroom dancing and like go full out, because you're not

622
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna look cool if you're trying to look cool, Like

623
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: there's no way in hell, Like you can't make ballroom

624
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: dancing look cool by like and this is like kind

625
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: of like what me and a J are going through

626
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: right now. I'm like, if it feels good, you're not

627
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: doing it right. So I don't know what to say

628
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: to you, Like you have to act like an ask

629
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: like you really do. Like I did this with Rob

630
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: Kardashian because he had a lot of issues right when

631
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: it was just his own insecurity or whatever. And so

632
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: literally we would be on like the live show and

633
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: I'd be saying the craziest at him, but it would

634
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: make him smile. It would make him just like exaggerate,

635
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: because it's all about exaggeration, right, like if you have

636
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: to actually distort your whole body in order for it

637
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: to look good, right, and doesn't feel good at all.

638
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: But like with a hip hop dancer, like with someone

639
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: like a J who thinks he has dance experience, which

640
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: he does, and I'm gonna take that away from him,

641
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: but it's almost harder to entrain the brain because it's

642
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: like I need He's like he's also used to being

643
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: down here, and I'm like, yeah, I don't see your

644
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: neck and it doesn't look good. You've got to act

645
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: like you're like six feet tall. And so we're going

646
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: through this all of these different like life lessons and

647
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: then dance lessons, and then honestly, I am just like

648
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: I lose my number between the hours of eight pm

649
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: and eight am. Seriously don't want and don't want to

650
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: hear from you. I don't want to even like talk

651
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: dance because also I have to come home to my husband,

652
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: like he doesn't want to hear all Dancing with the

653
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: Stars talk? Are you kidding? So it's actually not that

654
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: sexy at all, actually quite the opposite. Yeah, And I'm like,

655
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: and you gotta work alone, buddy, Like I'm like, you

656
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: have to smell you from the moment you parked your car,

657
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: because I think it's just rude. So how's it going

658
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: between you and A J? Then that wasn't dark to

659
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: the AJ is good at that by the way, a J.

660
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying out of like that was a summary

661
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: of all twenty three. But then let's talk about the positive.

662
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: So the positive is a J is great. A J

663
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: knows how to take direction, like he's been working with

664
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: choreographers before, and just like being able to be a

665
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: team player, right because he has a boy band, right,

666
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: so it's not just him, um, but he's really, he

667
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: really is excited and obviously his uh boy band or mate,

668
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what they call each other up. Nick

669
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: was on and so I think Nick may have scared

670
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: him a little bit just about like how ruling the

671
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: schedule is. But I was like, it has only just begun,

672
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: my friend. This is not even week two yet. I

673
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: feel like it's so sad though, with the fact that

674
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: there's not going to be like and I get it,

675
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: but that the audience, because for me when I was

676
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: on the show, it's like, the audience is what made

677
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: me nervous, which what made me like really excited. Yeah,

678
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: so okay. So I'm really good friends with Leah Remany,

679
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: who did the show right, and she's like, I wish

680
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: I would have signed up now, she goes, I am

681
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: so jealous that you guys, because I think it was

682
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: the live audience for her. Um, but the nerves turned

683
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: into like nerves, not like what you just said, like

684
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: it was like a good nervous you know. And I'm

685
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: nervous about it because I'm just like, oh, so we're

686
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: gonna be dancing our hearts out, giant kicking like crazy,

687
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: sweating our asses off, and then crickets like there's not

688
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna be like any button. It's gonna be like the rehearsal,

689
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: like when no one was out there now, except we

690
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: can't swear right, because like it used to be like

691
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: a ratedar it was like dancing with the stars at dark. Yeah,

692
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: I know, I wish people could see their rehearsals because

693
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: that's when just like you really see the true like

694
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: couple relationship. So yeah, it's definitely revealing for sure. So

695
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: the ballroom is definitely filled with like you don't see gaps,

696
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: so it's a it'll be extra lighting. It looks like

697
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: a spaceship. It looks crazy in a good way though.

698
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: And are they are they testing you guys? Like every

699
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: few days? Is that? Like? What is what's the precautions

700
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: for five days a week, Monday through Friday, no weekends

701
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: from the spit test to the swab up the nose,

702
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: which is not great, but you know what is better

703
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: safe than sorry, So for sure. And I'm just glad

704
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: that the show, I mean they always say the show

705
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: must go on. Yeah, I'm just I'm glad that. Yeah, no, totally,

706
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: And I love that it's back in the ballroom because

707
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: I think if I was like I was thinking about

708
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: it before you know, we got officially picked up, Like,

709
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: how am I going to do this into my living room?

710
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna look crazy? Yeah, so I'm happy they

711
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: pushed for that. Yeah, No, for sure, I totally agree

712
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: with you. Um, Mike, so you you're sending a package? Yes, yes, yes,

713
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: you got it so super. No, I have not gotten

714
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: it yet, Mike, you got it on the breakdown right,

715
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: the Bailey Blue clothing, your masks, right, your partner with

716
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: them for your mask, tell us about that for I'm

717
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: so I haven't gotten it yet, but I'm super excited

718
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: too when there's six of them and my whole thing

719
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: was okay. So I even before the pandemic, I did

720
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: a live stage show in Japan and I saw, basically

721
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: long story short, I saw these beautiful Japanese women walking

722
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: around with like designer purses and clothes, and then they

723
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: were wearing a dental mask and I was like, wait

724
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: a second, this is crazy, Like why are you rooting

725
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: an outfit like this is definitely an accessory, right, And

726
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: it's like you wouldn't be wearing a paper bag as

727
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: a purse. So it's like you need to watch what's

728
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: on your face and like, let's just look cute. So

729
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: I went to my agents and I was like, we

730
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: should definitely come out with the line of masks. She

731
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: thought I was crazy cut to you know, a series

732
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: of unfortunate events obviously, and I was like, you know

733
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: what this is meant to be, I'm doing this, And

734
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: so I partnered with Bailey Blue and we created six

735
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: masks that basically you don't swallow. So like, I don't

736
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: know about you guys, but whenever I used to wear

737
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: masks from whatever company, I would hal exhale, cry, laugh,

738
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: I would just choke on my mask, so just ruin

739
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: the moment um. So we found a way to like

740
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: still be CDC approved obviously, but then still have space

741
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: between like the nose in the mouth area, so that

742
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: bridge here, so where you could like inhale x do

743
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: you mean like running a mask dance in this, and

744
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be swallowing your masks. And then I was like,

745
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: why not put some glitter too while we're at it.

746
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's I love that. I'm so excited because

747
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: now it's gonna just like, yeah, I got you the

748
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: rum By one. I definitely sent this one to that one.

749
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: That's that's so pretty. Where can people on a Bailey

750
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: Blue Clothing dot com Bailey Blue Clothing is a b

751
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: l U yeah, or just be you Bailey Blue Bailey

752
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: Blue Clothing dot Com. Also, I bought you the drive

753
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: the drive mask this is obviously it's named after the

754
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: dances you see on Dancing with the Stars. And then

755
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: this is a mirror ball mask. It's got like a

756
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: bunch of sequins on it. Que Oh, you guys have

757
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: to go to the website right now. It's so cute.

758
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: That stuff is so good. And Mike, I got you

759
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: the song one Aware Yours. Mike got you the song

760
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: the one. I love that. Um, Cheryl, thank you seriously

761
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: so much, UM for just being I I just loved

762
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: you from from the first second that I met you. UM.

763
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: You were just always so kind and so sweet and

764
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: just thanks for being open and honest and being vulnerable.

765
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: And thank you guys. I love This is why I

766
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: love listening to you guys, because you're so wait and

767
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: you have a new podcast. To me and A J,

768
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: We're like, well, I know it's gonna be called It's Me,

769
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: a J and his friend, UM, and it's the three

770
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: of us it's called pretty messed up. It's with my heart,

771
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: pretty messed up. Okay, what is it going to be about?

772
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: So our listeners can go from this one literally, so

773
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: the three of us are all sober, and we're just

774
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: basically talking about our journey and us always trying just

775
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: to wake up and be the better version of ourselves

776
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: that we could be, you know, and and along that

777
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: journey it's pretty messed up. So that I mean especially

778
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like you can relate to that too,

779
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: and the journey. What I do have one question because

780
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: I'm always curious since I'm like learning new about addiction, Um,

781
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: that journey? What? Because you said you don't follow a

782
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: twelve step program, So I'm just curious, like how, like

783
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: what was the decision to not because I know, like

784
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: when Mike his twelve step program, it's like, what what's

785
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: the difference in choosing to do that or choosing not

786
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: to do that? Well, I I've never done a twelve

787
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: step program. A j is currently in the twelve step program,

788
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: but like, um, so you know, I actually I went

789
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: with I had my dance coach was an alcoholic, and

790
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: I went with him to a meeting and I just

791
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: like from then on, I decided just to be in therapy.

792
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm constantly in therapy, right, So I've been

793
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: doing that for like ten twelve years. And obviously when

794
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: I was a kid, um, you know, I went through

795
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: some child trauma, UM, being molested as a kid, and

796
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: so then my mom got me into therapy and then

797
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: it was my choice of being here to Los Angeles

798
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: to continue it. Um. And so I don't I don't know,

799
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't know like why or I don't know the difference.

800
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: I just know that this has worked for me, um,

801
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just taking it one day at

802
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: a time. I guess, good for you, Cheryl, that's awesome.

803
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: And that goes to show, I mean that it can

804
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: look different for different people, because you know, that's the thing,

805
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: as you learn about through recovery and being sober, it's

806
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: everyone's recovery can look different, and it's it is, it

807
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: is customizable, um, you know, to an extent. I also

808
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: love I love the twelfth Step program. I believe everybody

809
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: should do the twelf step program, whether you're an addict

810
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: or not. You know, yeah, right, really need to make amends,

811
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: don't we absolutely? Um? But Cheryl, seriously so proud of you.

812
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: Love you. Everyone listening to podcasts, go to Billy Bailey

813
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: Blue Watch Dancing with the Stars. Her and a J

814
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: are going to tear up the dance floor. Cheryl, I

815
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: love you, and um please don't tell Madam. I'm telling you,

816
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm playing. She's going to text him right now, absolutely

817
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: to day. I love Its awesome, Cheryl. Thank you so

818
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: much for coming on by Cheryl. I can see why

819
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: you love Cheryl so much. She's so sweet. I'm so

820
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: proud of her though, that she's sober and she's living

821
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: her best life right now with Matt and just I

822
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: love that. I love that they're marital issues, that they're

823
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: fighting for their marital issues, like obviously there's conflict like

824
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: any other marriage, and they're going to therapy and they're

825
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: working on it. And that's just so inspiring. And I

826
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: think you should be on their new podcast. I'm just

827
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: putting that out there, Daniel. But I feel like this

828
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: was an amazing show and I just, yeah, I'm excited

829
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: for people to listen to. You know, I wanna end

830
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: it with something very topical for this podcast. Oh let's

831
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: hear it. So my heart dropped during the show because

832
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: I got this random text message that popped up from

833
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: some weird hotmail dot com that says, how are you there?

834
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: From Catherine Dalina and my my heart dropped when it came.

835
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry for triggers that come up around this

836
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: and willing to do whatever we need to do to

837
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: look into this, whatever you need around it, okay, but

838
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: it's scared the out of me. Appreciate you bringing it

839
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: to me. It sucks, like why are it, Like are

840
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: these people and why did they reach out? You know,

841
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: like but so it's you know, as those of you

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Speaker 1: who are avid listeners, remember you know where Jane and

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00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: I handled a situation like this poorly just earlier this year,

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00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: and where something came to my phone a spam picture

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00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: and text mess and message similar to this, but this

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00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: one doesn't have a picture, and you know I deleted

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00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: it without telling Jenna because you know, my justification was,

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00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: all right, I know this isn't anything. Why trigger her

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00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: or bring up past when I don't have to so,

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00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie. When I got it, there's

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00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: that that split second in my head where I'm like,

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00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: I really don't want to trigger you. I really don't

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00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: want to bring this up or deal with it, to

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00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: deal with it because I'm like, because you're not doing

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00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: anything right. So it's just, you know, it's just it

856
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: just sucks, and it sucks that I you know that

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00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: I've done things in the past for for this to

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Speaker 1: be triggering, but I wanted to do it on air

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00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: because I mean, this is what we do, you know,

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00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: this is what we talk about on this show, and

861
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: this is as real time as it gets because I've

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00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: literally got this during the show. Yeah, so, well, I

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00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: appreciate you bringing it to me. Does suck, does bring

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00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: up certain things, but you're bringing it to me, you know,

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00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: is the best thing you can do, you know, because

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Speaker 1: that just shows me. Yeah, so thank you. Yeah. Well, guys,

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Speaker 1: on that note, we're going to have a fight and

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I totally getting no, no, I know, I

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Speaker 1: super appreciate it. I swear I really do, so thank

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Speaker 1: you of course. Can I delete it please? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, so good episode ending with the bomb. But

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. Be honest, be real time, because in

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Speaker 1: the end, it's so much better than him deleting it

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00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: and justifying or not telling me. Um, be honest, communicate

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Speaker 1: I love you guys, see you next week, later