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Speaker 1: the origin and history of our ongoing fight for voter rights,
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Speaker 1: doesn't look like it's going to be solved anytime soon.
Speaker 1: We want to consider its future. Where do we go
Speaker 1: from here, what lessons can we take with us, and
Speaker 1: what impact might this election have on our ongoing push
Speaker 1: for a more inclusive democracy, a more perfect union. Because
Speaker 1: Americans saw up close precisely how the election system works,
Speaker 1: what its flaws are, there's a real opportunity finally now
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Speaker 1: elections and protect voting rights. Leader will explore the future
Speaker 1: of voting rights with a view of our previous guests.
Speaker 1: But first, how do we start to understand what we
Speaker 1: just went through? How do we put the presidential race
Speaker 1: into context? To answer that we took a virtual trip
Speaker 1: to Appalachia. I have very little signal. I'm in a
Speaker 1: very mountainous area, and basically, if you're not in the
Speaker 1: same little holler with the power, that's that's it. Greg
Speaker 1: Cruey is a middle school social studies teacher. If you
Speaker 1: hear my new puppy bark, I've got a dog with
Speaker 1: we adopted with four or five months old, and it
Speaker 1: parks at everything. And it's his job to lay a
Speaker 1: civics foundation for our next generation of voters. To explain
Speaker 1: our system, our elections, our democracy. I work in war
Speaker 1: West Virginia in mcdell County with sixth, seventh, and ninth graders,
Speaker 1: and I'm also the president of the American Federation of
Speaker 1: Teachers in mcdell County. I'm an activist, I'm a church musician.
Speaker 1: My husband, I'm a dog owner. Uh could go on.
Speaker 1: McDowell County sits in the southernmost edge of West Virginia
Speaker 1: and the central Appalachians. While it was once a center
Speaker 1: for cold production, it's now one of the poorest areas
Speaker 1: in the country. McDow County is a place that has
Speaker 1: been robbed. Its natural resources were stripped away. Uh, and
Speaker 1: it was left with very little. And I'm talking, of
Speaker 1: course about coal. And the description I'm I'm giving probably
Speaker 1: describes most of southern West Virginia. It's a place of
Speaker 1: contrasts today. On the one hand, it's poor and on
Speaker 1: the other hand it's rich. At the same time it's
Speaker 1: it's economically depressed. It gives you kind of a rural
Speaker 1: rust belt feel. The families are torn up by drugs.
Speaker 1: The opioid epidemic here is horrible. Grandparents are raising kids
Speaker 1: because the biological parents are often so strung out or
Speaker 1: in jail or bed. The people all the weight of
Speaker 1: worrying about how they're going to scrape by next month,
Speaker 1: and wondering who's going to din next, either from drugs
Speaker 1: or just a rest of poverty in their lives. On
Speaker 1: the other hand, there's a lot of pride that people
Speaker 1: feel about just being here and having made it in
Speaker 1: this rugged part of Appalachia. This is a community filled
Speaker 1: with military veterans who served their country well. It's one
Speaker 1: of the highest rates of military service in the country.
Speaker 1: The community is salted with little churches that are far
Speaker 1: more concerned with loving and helping people than they are
Speaker 1: with politics. Uh and some of the nicest, most generous,
Speaker 1: most self deprecating people that you could ever hope to
Speaker 1: make to live in the communities around my school. McDowell
Speaker 1: County is home to about eighteen thousand people, the vast
Speaker 1: majority of whom are white. I think McDow County has
Speaker 1: one of the largest black populations in West Virginia, but
Speaker 1: it's still only at ten or twelve percent. We're a
Speaker 1: very white community and in elections, this community tends to
Speaker 1: vote read. We have a very conservative community up here,
Speaker 1: and it's historically belonged to the Democratic Party, and we're
Speaker 1: in a transition at this point where it's becoming more
Speaker 1: and more acceptable to switch parties and call yourself a Republican.
Speaker 1: I tell my kids today, we think of Democrats as
Speaker 1: being liberals and Republicans as being conservatives. But it's only
Speaker 1: been that way in my lifetime. They're probably more registered
Speaker 1: Democrats than there are Republicans, but of the county voted
Speaker 1: for President Trump. I've had kids this year come in
Speaker 1: wearing face masks that have Trump on them. Uh, and
Speaker 1: you know that's that's cute. Uh, that there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. They they look at me and they know
Speaker 1: what I think, and it's it's interesting. They come in
Speaker 1: with sumper sticker sort of views of politics, with the
Speaker 1: you know, the Democrats are going to take our guns,
Speaker 1: we need to build the wall. They just they're on
Speaker 1: the Trump train, and they'll tell you, you know, they're
Speaker 1: on the Trump train, and it puzzles them if you
Speaker 1: ask why, you know, they don't they don't understand that
Speaker 1: there's a community of people out there in other parts
Speaker 1: of America who aren't on the Trump train. I think
Speaker 1: that he is to get them thinking about issues, uh,
Speaker 1: not just people. They have to understand that it requires thought,
Speaker 1: that it's complicated. I try very hard to talk about
Speaker 1: issues and to to divorce those issues the parties or
Speaker 1: candidates and have them think about immigration, or think about
Speaker 1: gun rights, so or welfare, health care, the environment, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and get them to see that those issues
Speaker 1: are multifaceted and complicated. My goal is is critical thinking.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to persuade somebody to believe one thing
Speaker 1: or another. I mean, these are little kids. I just
Speaker 1: want them to develop the skills that they need two
Speaker 1: understand what's going on and decide what they think is
Speaker 1: best and take part in the decision making process. But
Speaker 1: I teach the unit every year on fact versus opinion,
Speaker 1: and I keep it completely separate from anything that has
Speaker 1: to do with politics. You know. I work very hard
Speaker 1: to get my students to be able to distinguish types
Speaker 1: of statement. Is that a statement of fact or is
Speaker 1: that a statement of opinion? And to fill an obligation.
Speaker 1: If they think it's a statement of fact, decide whether
Speaker 1: or not it's true or false a statement of fact.
Speaker 1: I tell them a thing that can be verified by
Speaker 1: sources that reasonable people can agree on, and um, it's
Speaker 1: their obligation if it's important to them to go find
Speaker 1: out whether or not the statement is true. If it's
Speaker 1: a statement of fact, they can go look that up.
Speaker 1: If it's a statement of opinion, then it's their obligation
Speaker 1: to decide whether or not they agree with the person's opinion.
Speaker 1: I teach it every year and so for my kids,
Speaker 1: repetition is the heart of learning, and they get it
Speaker 1: three times in three years, and hopefully by the time
Speaker 1: they leave here they can tell the difference between fact
Speaker 1: and opinion. Mr Creuey also teaches the importance of civic
Speaker 1: participation by example, which is why he doesn't shy away
Speaker 1: from showing how he engages in the election process. I
Speaker 1: had somebody comments that students should never know their teacher's
Speaker 1: personal political views, and I find that incredibly naive. My wife,
Speaker 1: who has a retired principle, and I are involved in
Speaker 1: mentoring kids were part of the community. We visit their churches.
Speaker 1: We work at a Christian camp in the summer that
Speaker 1: many of our students go to, and they know I
Speaker 1: have a sign in my yard and a bumper sticker
Speaker 1: on my vehicle, you know, So the idea that I
Speaker 1: can prevent them from figuring out who I support. I
Speaker 1: don't think I give up the right to participate in
Speaker 1: politics because I become a government employee and as a
Speaker 1: social studies teacher. If I did keep it from them,
Speaker 1: I would model exactly the opposite of what I hope
Speaker 1: to achieve with them, which is a model participation, because
Speaker 1: I want them to participate. And um, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to get around that. The kids come into my
Speaker 1: room knowing that I have a Biden sticker on my vehicle,
Speaker 1: and they look at me and they say, do you
Speaker 1: really support Vice President Biden? And uh, I say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the question is who do you support and
Speaker 1: why do you feel that way? Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: And I try and turn the tables on them and
Speaker 1: make them develop the skills to articulate why they like somebody.
Speaker 1: And if their answer is I like President Trump because
Speaker 1: mom and did like President Trump, that's good enough, you know.
Speaker 1: And I try my best to affirm that in them.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't detigrate that at all. I try
Speaker 1: my best never to be disrespectful of the president, because
Speaker 1: I don't think that gets me anywhere, and I don't
Speaker 1: think it's professional. I'm not trying to shake personal political
Speaker 1: opinions at the moment so much as I'm working on
Speaker 1: a set of skills, and these kids are going to
Speaker 1: be in school for another five or six years and
Speaker 1: that chance to shake those skills. I'm laying a foundation
Speaker 1: that I hope somebody in high school will pick up
Speaker 1: and you know, build on. I have to keep that
Speaker 1: perspective of do these kids know what they need to
Speaker 1: know or have the skills that they need to have
Speaker 1: to participate. The kids whose situation in life is the worst,
Speaker 1: the disenfranchised, the people who the economic development policy and
Speaker 1: decisions by local government are going to help or hurt
Speaker 1: them the most, and yet they don't know how to
Speaker 1: take part to participate. Those are the people that hurt
Speaker 1: the most if we if we don't have adequate social
Speaker 1: studies instruction. But Mr Cruey says, as a middle school
Speaker 1: teacher in one of the poorest regions of the country,
Speaker 1: civics vocabulary and lessons on the importance of voting often
Speaker 1: take a back seat to more immediate concerns. I'm a
Speaker 1: first responder to poverty, so I go to school and
Speaker 1: I deal with students because they need care. If on
Speaker 1: top of that they understand academics, that's an added bonus.
Speaker 1: But without the foundation of them knowing that they're cared
Speaker 1: for and that the somebody is concerned about their welfare,
Speaker 1: you don't get any of the other stuff. And you know,
Speaker 1: we're looking for a way to shape strong adults. If
Speaker 1: they don't feel loved, if they don't have a good
Speaker 1: self image, if they don't make it to adulthood, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You know that that's the goal. The goal
Speaker 1: is to produce strong, healthy adults. That was Greg Cruey,
Speaker 1: middle school social studies teacher from war West Virginia, coming
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Speaker 1: race is behind us well almost, And with that modicum
Speaker 1: of hindsight, I wanted to get a sense of this election,
Speaker 1: of its place in our voting history, its potential impact
Speaker 1: on democracy, and what lessons we might glean from it.
Speaker 1: So we decided to check in with some of our
Speaker 1: previous guests. My name is Wendy Wiser. I am Vice
Speaker 1: President for a Democracy at the Brendan Center for Justice
Speaker 1: at n y U Law School. This election was a
Speaker 1: really unprecedented election in multivle dimensions. First, and happily, we
Speaker 1: have an unprecedented level of voter turnout. More Americans voted
Speaker 1: in this election than in any other election in American
Speaker 1: history um in the highest percentage and over a century UM.
Speaker 1: And that is great news for democracy. The more people participate,
Speaker 1: the stronger our democracy. We conducted an election during a
Speaker 1: once in a century pandemic that obviously created serious and
Speaker 1: unprecedented challenges. UM. It changed the way many Americans voted
Speaker 1: across the entire country in a really short time frame,
Speaker 1: and we successfully accomplished that election under such challenging circumstances.
Speaker 1: If we look at how we voted, we we voted
Speaker 1: in new ways and in that way, our election was unprecedented.
Speaker 1: We had a huge surge in absentee and mail voting,
Speaker 1: and a huge surge in early voting, Americans voting before
Speaker 1: election day, so we spread out the election process. Americans
Speaker 1: took advantage of all the different options available to them,
Speaker 1: and so that was really new and we were able
Speaker 1: to accomplish that and that massive change again in a
Speaker 1: short period of time. It was unprecedented in some negative
Speaker 1: ways as well. We did see a huge surge in
Speaker 1: efforts at voter suppression, targeting voters, trying to make it
Speaker 1: harder for specific groups, particularly black and brown voters, to
Speaker 1: participate in the election. We saw a surge, not as
Speaker 1: much as was feared, of people actually trying to interfere
Speaker 1: with the voting process and disenfranchise voters at the polls
Speaker 1: on election day and during the early voting period. The
Speaker 1: other thing that was really unprecedented was the push by
Speaker 1: the campaign of the President of the United States and
Speaker 1: those working with him both to undermine the integrity of
Speaker 1: the election and to try to make it harder for
Speaker 1: eligible Americans to vote, or even too after the fact,
Speaker 1: disenfranchised eligible Americans who did participate in the election. And
Speaker 1: that is not only unprecedented, but shocking and ongoing and
Speaker 1: something we've not seen anything remotely like it before in
Speaker 1: American history. I am Guilded Daniels. I'm an associate professor
Speaker 1: at the University of Baltimore School of Law. I'm also
Speaker 1: litigation director at Advancement Project National Office, and the author
Speaker 1: of Uncounted, The Crisis of Voter Suppression in America. The
Speaker 1: fact that we had more than a hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: million vote in almost eighty million people voted for one candidate,
Speaker 1: UH is a founding because we thought that the system
Speaker 1: would break under the weight of people actually doing what
Speaker 1: the what we're supposed to do, which is actually vote.
Speaker 1: We don't anticipate that people will participate at the levels
Speaker 1: that they should, right, and so that's why you have
Speaker 1: long lines, because you don't have enough machines, you don't
Speaker 1: have enough workers, you don't have enough balance, those kinds
Speaker 1: of things. So if we could, if we could raise
Speaker 1: our expectations. One of things I've learned my children is
Speaker 1: that they rise to the level of my expectations. So
Speaker 1: I think if we raise our expectations, I think we
Speaker 1: will have a we would have a better system. I'm
Speaker 1: Tyler Okaykave goot At sixteen, you the organizer with Power California,
Speaker 1: and a second year student at the University of Chicago
Speaker 1: studying public policy. In this election, we saw that it
Speaker 1: seemed like across the board there was this pushing enthusiasm
Speaker 1: behind getting more people to vote. We saw it from corporations,
Speaker 1: we saw it from non governmental agencies, grass freet organizations
Speaker 1: like ours. But my fear moving forward is that will
Speaker 1: we continue to keep this emphasis and access to the
Speaker 1: ballot and um the provision of the right to vote
Speaker 1: to everyone. Will we keep this energy up when maybe
Speaker 1: the states aren't in the favor of the corporations that
Speaker 1: are invested or the organizations that are invested in the
Speaker 1: elections somewhere another. However, when it comes to the policies
Speaker 1: that states like California and other progressive states adopted on voting,
Speaker 1: I think they will continue to be major pushes around
Speaker 1: how we make the ballot more accessible. I think that
Speaker 1: mail in ballot will continue to be a constant. I
Speaker 1: think that ballot drop off boxes will continue to be
Speaker 1: a constant. I think even we'll be having more conversations
Speaker 1: about how we digitize and make more of these themes accessible,
Speaker 1: and I think the coronavirus pandemic has allowed us a
Speaker 1: testing ground for many of these avenues to the ballot
Speaker 1: that weren't explored before. And I'm hopeful to see how
Speaker 1: how well we can expand how we allow people access
Speaker 1: to the ballot box, but also how we have conversations
Speaker 1: about how to vote in the procedure around voting. I
Speaker 1: think this election has really created a culture around voting
Speaker 1: and civic particip patient that I that I know will continue.
Speaker 1: But like I said, my anxieties are around um the
Speaker 1: buying that corporations have, which we've seen is usually in
Speaker 1: alignment with their economic interests at all times. One of
Speaker 1: the takeaways from this election is that it took way
Speaker 1: too much mobilization outside of government just to shore up
Speaker 1: the basic right to vote. We did not invest sufficiently
Speaker 1: in our election, and we came very perilously close to
Speaker 1: not being able to provide an opportunity for everybody to
Speaker 1: vote safely, and to a situation where there could have
Speaker 1: been widespread election meltdowns. If we didn't have that mobilization
Speaker 1: of resources and support from outside of government, we could
Speaker 1: have had a real disaster on our hands. And it
Speaker 1: also took way too much just to ensure that america
Speaker 1: kins knew their voting rights and had those voting rights protected.
Speaker 1: And we're not thwarted by unfair obstacles that are still
Speaker 1: there in our election laws, um and that can still
Speaker 1: be taken advantage of by those who want to thwart
Speaker 1: voter participation. Coming out of this election, we need to
Speaker 1: invest more in our elections because we cannot count on
Speaker 1: this level of mobilization and public propping up of the
Speaker 1: election system that we saw this year in our future elections.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is unusual. That was it was a
Speaker 1: great show of patriotism and support for our democracy. But
Speaker 1: we cannot demand that from Americans every election just to
Speaker 1: be able to have free and fair elections and to
Speaker 1: continue as a functioning democracy. And we need to shore
Speaker 1: up our voting rights laws and our voting rights protections
Speaker 1: because if we don't restore the critical protections of the
Speaker 1: Voting Rights Act, which are there to prevent discrimination in
Speaker 1: the voting system, if we don't actually create a baseline
Speaker 1: set of voting rules and voting protections for every American
Speaker 1: so that people can conveniently access the voting system, there
Speaker 1: will be continued manipulation of the system to target voters
Speaker 1: for disenfranchisement unless we clear these are not targeted at
Speaker 1: every voter. In this election, we saw extreme and blatant
Speaker 1: targeting of African American and other voters of color for disenfranchisement,
Speaker 1: both before the election and in the post election disputes.
Speaker 1: This cannot be acceptable in our voting system going forward.
Speaker 1: The biggest takeaway that I think we can take from
Speaker 1: this election is that it's more than one day. That
Speaker 1: it's the work that has to be done months before,
Speaker 1: even years before, that enabled us to have this large
Speaker 1: voter turnout, and that the fight continues. It's about giving
Speaker 1: people the ability to vote early, to vote by mail,
Speaker 1: to vote curbside too, you know, for persons who are
Speaker 1: returning citizens, are formally incarcerated persons um to to vote.
Speaker 1: It's it's it was about laying that groundwork months before,
Speaker 1: years before, to try to make sure that access was
Speaker 1: a possibility and that people could utilize the right. And
Speaker 1: it's the work that happens after election day, work that
Speaker 1: we have to do as citizens and ensuring that the
Speaker 1: folks are representing us right. And it's like we still
Speaker 1: need to be contacting congress persons even though this is
Speaker 1: a lame duck session. So what I'm hopeful that we've
Speaker 1: got out of this election season that that is indeed
Speaker 1: a season and not just an election day, that the
Speaker 1: work goes on, you know, before, during, and afterwards to
Speaker 1: make sure that this democracy works to its fullest potential.
Speaker 1: We should be under no illusions that all as well
Speaker 1: in the country right now, and there's so much work
Speaker 1: to be done. So as long as we continue to
Speaker 1: say that we care for our communities and that we're
Speaker 1: invested in political change, it means that we're involved in
Speaker 1: this work all the time, and even beyond voting. Right
Speaker 1: So if you can't vote, if the next opportunity to
Speaker 1: vote will be in two years, there are things that
Speaker 1: you can do to build power and to continue to
Speaker 1: educate people around you so that they're prepared to make
Speaker 1: critical decisions when it comes to voting or when it
Speaker 1: comes to running for office one day. Maybe, but I think, um,
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Speaker 1: our communities, and I would say, as of right now,
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Speaker 1: Let's be honest here, we deserve some good news, right.
Speaker 1: Luckily there were some positive lessons from our election experience.
Speaker 1: Our guests Tyler okay Ka, Gilda Daniels, and Wendy wise
Speaker 1: Or share what gives them hope for the future of
Speaker 1: our democracy. First, here's Wendy. The sheer number of people
Speaker 1: not only that showed their belief in that vision and
Speaker 1: in that system, but that we're willing to sort of
Speaker 1: mobilize and dedicate resources and time to realize that and
Speaker 1: to make sure it happens in the face of so
Speaker 1: many threats this year. Is a strength that gives me
Speaker 1: a lot of hope for our ability to fix it
Speaker 1: going forward, and I think that we can't let up.
Speaker 1: This was not just one election. Those threats are still present,
Speaker 1: those ideals and it and strategies are now going to
Speaker 1: be deployed by others in the future, and we can't
Speaker 1: let up until we put in place much more solid
Speaker 1: guard rails in the system to prevent its undermining and
Speaker 1: to ensure that every eligible American has a fair opportunity
Speaker 1: to participate conveniently and without discrimination. What makes me hopeful
Speaker 1: is my children, because I think they were engaged at
Speaker 1: a level that I certainly was not engaged at that age,
Speaker 1: So they certainly make me hopeful. And young people in general, right,
Speaker 1: and that I called it moving from protest to power,
Speaker 1: that they moved from the protests of the spring in
Speaker 1: the summer over the murders of Brianna Taylor Man are
Speaker 1: very and Um and George Floyd to going to the
Speaker 1: voting booth because they actually young people actually turned out
Speaker 1: in high levels as well. So it wasn't just about
Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans. It was about groups of people who
Speaker 1: generally don't participate who turned out to vote. And I
Speaker 1: think that that is certainly what makes me hopeful, and
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that it that it continues beyond certainly November three.
Speaker 1: Where I pulled from is how people have really sat
Speaker 1: down and reconsidered how they think about race relations in
Speaker 1: this country. I think with the contradictions that we've seen
Speaker 1: with the coronavirus pandemic, um seeing that people are not
Speaker 1: able to have a stable access to food, stable access
Speaker 1: to housing, stable access to their jobs, this moment where
Speaker 1: every two years were in a moment of depression and chaos,
Speaker 1: I think that's something that people are really sitting down
Speaker 1: and interrogating, and I'm hoping that that analysis that people
Speaker 1: are making privately leads to a shift in political convictions
Speaker 1: when it comes to also how we vote, but more importantly,
Speaker 1: how we advocate and what our expectations are of our
Speaker 1: political leaders. You know, the racial reckoning that we've had
Speaker 1: with the response to police brutality, as well as the
Speaker 1: contradictions that the coronavirus pandemic has shown to both our
Speaker 1: systems and economy is what's going to keep people critical
Speaker 1: and also keep people focused on building a stronger, more
Speaker 1: resilient future. Although we had to have more than a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million people cast, but allots. We certainly
Speaker 1: had a higher person image of turnout at six but
Speaker 1: that's sixty that's better than we've done in the past.
Speaker 1: But why don't we have turnout or nine percent turnout?
Speaker 1: My ultimate goal is universal suffrage. I'm not happy with
Speaker 1: six turned out and right now in this country, we
Speaker 1: do not have a system where people can register on
Speaker 1: the same day, same day. Voter registration should be universal
Speaker 1: in this country. Right this idea that if you don't
Speaker 1: register thirty days before the election, then you can't participate.
Speaker 1: That's a long awaiting period. Then we have for someone
Speaker 1: to get a gun. So we still have these rules
Speaker 1: that just don't make sense. If we're going to have
Speaker 1: a democracy, then the vote has to be central and
Speaker 1: the ability for people to access the vote has to
Speaker 1: be made easier. And I think, you know, I'll continue
Speaker 1: to work until that until that happens. That was professor
Speaker 1: and author Gilda Daniels. You also heard Tyler Okk of Howard, California,
Speaker 1: and Wendy Wiser of the Brennan Center for Justice. And
Speaker 1: thank you one more time to Greg Cruey, who, by
Speaker 1: the way, we found through a fantastic article in the
Speaker 1: Washington Post, written by education reporter Hannah Natanson. Listeners, turn
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